[07:40] <ara> morning all :-)
[08:27] <davmor2> slangasek: roughly what time do the iso's get respun each morning utc time?
[08:34] <davmor2> Morning Sladen
[08:52] <slangasek> davmor2: hmm, there's a timestamp on the files on the website, no? :)
[08:53] <slangasek> davmor2: the Ubuntu image run starts at 7:31 London time; others at various other points
[08:53] <sladen> moaning
[10:25] <davmor2> sladen: hey dude laptop does work if you just press either alt or ctrl it just takes a second to warm up
[10:32] <sladen> davmor2: what about shift, caps lock etc
[10:32] <sladen> the shift/ctrl isn't just for skipping the BIOS?
[10:33] <davmor2> sladen: it's just installing the latest iso to see if things work better with ndiswrapper.  So I can try that on reboot and let you know about 10-15 minutes
[10:41]  * davmor2 don't know what happened then :(
[10:46] <davmor2> sladen: Yeap and backspace too
[10:46] <davmor2> normal keys do nothing though
[11:07] <davmor2> sladen: backspace actually works better than the rest :)  I only need press it a couple of times
[11:12] <sladen> enter?
[11:13] <sladen> anyway.  where does it stop if you don't do anyt of this
[11:28] <davmor2> sladen: I removed splash from the kernel line I get Starting up ...
[11:28] <davmor2> [    0.604928] pnp 00:03: can't evaluate _CRS: 12300<6>pnp: PnP ACPI: found 12 devices
[11:28] <davmor2> Loading, please wait ...  and then some stuff about uvesafb: failed to execute /sbin/v86d and it stops
[11:31] <davmor2> sladen: then when I press backspace I get kinit:.....
[11:34] <persia> Has anyone had trouble with installing X on today's alternate dailies?  lpia seems to be failing because of a conflict between xserver-xorg-core and xserver-xorg-input, and I'm hoping it's not arch-specific.
[11:36] <sladen> davmor2: okay, can you file a bug with that   (" uvesafb: failed to execute /sbin/v86d, blocks until keypress")
[11:36] <sladen> at elast then we won't lose it
[11:38] <davmor2> sladen: No Probs and thanks for the help
[11:39] <davmor2> persia: don't seem to be any issues with the builds today might just be an lpia thing
[11:40] <persia> davmor2: Thanks.  That's actually good news, but means I have to dig in other places.
[11:40] <davmor2> persia: if you give me about 20 minutes I can double check by running todays iso for you
[11:42] <persia> davmor2: No need: there are some other things that need tweaking anyway, so even if that worked, I'd not be surprised if the install failed in-toto (the lack of a kernel is part of it)
[12:30]  * ara -> lunch
[12:47] <davmor2> sladen: something funky and weird just happened.  I finally found a work around that works for ndiswrapper and now the laptop boots properly :-/
[12:48] <davmor2> could of been an issue with the b43 driver maybe?
[14:09] <davmor2> bdmurray, ogasawara: ping
[14:22] <ara> sbeattie: ping
[15:06] <cr3_> schwuk: hey dude, how'd you like my file manager? :)
[15:11] <ara> cr3_: I wanted to chat with you about checkbox + ldtp integration
[15:11] <ara> cr3_: we didn't finish it in the end
[15:12] <ara> cr3_: how's the sudo /non sudo problem going?
[15:13] <cr3_> ara: can you track my message to you dated: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:22:30 -0400
[15:15] <ara> cr3_: ok, let me see
[15:18] <ara> cr3_: yes, i thought i replied, didn't I?
[15:22] <ara> cr3_: anyway, I will get back to that now, and will reply again with updated info :)
[15:23] <cr3_> ara: ah, I see your reply. I'll try to reproduce myself
[15:24] <cr3_> ara: could you let me know the command I could use to reproduce the problem?
[15:27] <ara> cr3_: let me check it myself and will get back to you
[15:33] <ara> cr3_: I tried with adding to the manual tests the run_test.sh adding the code you sent me
[15:33] <ara> cr3_: and any of the example tests
[15:56] <bdmurray> davmor2: pong
[16:00] <davmor2> bdmurray: I've worked on that bug I've added details from the working hardy install for comparison with the intrepid one and on attempt 12 I got a work round so added it to the bug too.  Yay  But I could do with your help on another bug if you have the time please.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/274346 is there any info I can add and where from
[16:01] <davmor2> bdmurray: more my report than the dup of it as I believe they are slightly different
[16:02] <bdmurray> yeah, I was looking at those last night
[16:02] <bdmurray> I think yours might be close to bug 273833
[16:02] <bdmurray> Have you tried booting w/o quiet and usplash to see if that is more informative?
[16:04] <davmor2> bdmurray: I'll try that on a reboot where is still locks up
[16:05] <bdmurray> Great, its odd that it doesn't happen all the time
[16:05] <davmor2> bdmurray: It's only since I found the fix for the wifi :)
[16:06] <bdmurray> right, then the v86d bit is probably unrelated
[16:09] <davmor2> bdmurray: With quiet switched off it stops after SCSI subsystem initialized
[16:10] <ogasawara> davmor2: you may want to also take a look at bug 254668 regarding needing to keypress to cont booting
[16:11] <sbeattie> ara: ack
[16:11] <bdmurray> davmor2: could update the bug with a picture?
[16:12] <ara> sbeattie: i wanted to ask you about the google automation conference in seattle. are you finally attending?
[16:12] <davmor2> yeah 2 ticks
[16:14] <sbeattie> ara: sorry, I'm not. I ended up missing the registration deadline because I'm a dork.
[16:14] <ara> sbeattie: hehehe
[16:14] <ara> sbeattie: too bad! :(
[16:14] <ara> sbeattie: it would have been great meeting you there
[16:15] <sbeattie> yeah. Any chance you'll have time to come down to Portland?
[16:16] <ara> sbeattie: no idea, it depends on the schedule and flight hours. i hope so :)
[16:17] <ara> sbeattie: will you invite me to your daughter's birthday? :-)
[16:19] <davmor2> bdmurray: www.davmor2.co.uk/photo-bug.jpg  not my greatest photography and the bottom line appeared just before I took the shot
[16:20] <davmor2> ogasawara: that bug sounds more like my issue.
[16:23] <ogasawara> davmor2:  yah it sounds suspiciously similar.  There were some noted workarounds documented in that bug.  stefan (one of the kernel devs) is actively working on it
[16:28] <davmor2> ogasawara: This used to be a lot worse before I found the work around for wifi.  Now at least from a cold boot it works till I get to the desktop it's only on reboot's where it's playing up for me now :)
[16:30] <davmor2> bdmurray: so is there away to undupe it from that bug and dupe it to the other?
[16:30] <ogasawara> davmor2: I'm going to undup your 246269 bug.  I think it's actually 2 separate bugs which have already been reported (as noted in our comments above) so you'll probably just want to subscribe to those other reports
[16:32] <davmor2> ogasawara: Thanks :)
[16:32] <ogasawara> davmor2: just fyi, to undup a bug you have to go to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/274346/+duplicate and then delete the bug it was dup'd to
[16:33] <davmor2> ogasawara: ah okay cool :)
[16:41] <davmor2> ogasawara, bdmurray: is there any thing else I can  add to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/268625
[16:48] <ogasawara> davmor2: looks ok here
[16:48] <davmor2> Cool :)
[16:48]  * davmor2 starts looking through his back catalogue of bugs
[17:25] <ara> well, i am off for today
[17:25] <ara> bye guys!
[17:25] <sbeattie> ara: have a good evening!
[17:25] <ara> see you tomorrow!
[17:25] <ara> sbeattie: thanks!
[17:33] <davmor2> bdmurray: does that mean that my bug can be changed from incomplete to triaged now https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/268625
[17:35] <bdmurray> could you actually upload the whole /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper file?
[17:35] <bdmurray> It might be easier to read than that command
[17:37] <davmor2> bdmurray: yeap sure
[17:47] <davmor2> bdmurray: done
[17:55] <bdmurray> davmor2: I think your bug looks like bug 263097 - now
[17:57] <davmor2> bdmurray: no that's actually jockey using the free OS driver b43 rather than ndiswrapper reading through it
[19:01] <chrisccoulson> ping davmor2
[19:01] <davmor2> chrisccoulson: pong
[19:01] <chrisccoulson> hi! sorry for not spotting you had two issues in your bug report earlier and then marking it as a dupe of another
[19:02] <davmor2> chrisccoulson: No Probs I wasn't entirely sure what was going on with it anyway :)
[19:02] <chrisccoulson> thats good then ;)