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[14:35]  * mpt hugs newz2000 
[14:36] <newz2000> hey mpt! what did I do to deserver that?
[14:36] <mpt> search.ubuntu.com!
[14:36] <newz2000> ah, yeah, it's alive!
[14:37] <mpt> The link in the help viewer doesn't work yet, but I'm sure that's only a matter of time ;-)
[14:37] <newz2000> yeah, it's on my list
[14:38] <mpt> Completely unrelated question: What's http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/ ?
[14:39] <newz2000> I've never used that site, it looks like an apt repo maybe?
[14:40] <mpt> Completely unrelated question: Why do cdimage.ubuntu.com and cdimages.ubuntu.com coexist? Why doesn't one redirect to the other?
[14:41] <newz2000> I don't know the answer to that one
[14:43] <mpt> Then there's <http://cl.releases.ubuntu.com/> and <http://sk.releases.ubuntu.com/>, which seem to differ only in their icons and font sizes
[14:44]  * newz2000 marvels at matt's detective skills
[14:46] <mpt> Huh, http://videos.ubuntu.com/
[14:47] <newz2000> I believe that one is a place for boredandblogging (and maybe popey) to put videos for use on other ubuntu websites
[14:47] <mpt> I see
[14:47] <popey> it was used by jono/daniel
[14:47] <popey> after some videos were uploaded to youtube and people bitched about them not being in an open format
[14:48] <popey> iirc
[14:48] <mpt> http://auckland.ubuntu.com/ probably should redirect to http://archive.ubuntu.com/
[14:49] <newz2000> oh, hey popey, I didn't notice you were here!
[14:49] <popey> I'm _everywhere_ :)
[14:49] <popey> ish
[14:49] <newz2000> mpt: these points you're making are good, but probably need to go to rt@admin.canonical.com for them to get done (though I'm happy to tell you what I know about them)
[14:50] <mpt> yeah, that's the idea :-) I'm just exploring
[14:50] <mpt> I assume seek-test.ubuntu.com can go away now?
[14:50] <newz2000> no prob
[14:50] <newz2000> ah yes, it can
[14:50] <newz2000> oh wait
[14:51] <newz2000> actually, maybe not until I get yelp working with search.ubuntu.com
[14:51] <newz2000> I will need to explore that first
[14:52] <mpt> oh man, there's isv-image.ubuntu.com *and* isvimage.ubuntu.com
[14:53] <newz2000> where are you gettign this?
[14:55] <mpt> I'm up to <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22index+of%22+site%3Aubuntu.com+-site%3Aplanet.ubuntu.com+-site%3Abrainstorm.ubuntu.com+-site%3Aseek-test.ubuntu.com+-site%3Alists.ubuntu.com+-site%3Amanpages.ubuntu.com+-site%3Adoc.ubuntu.com+-site%3Apackages.ubuntu.com+-site%3Aauckland.ubuntu.com+-site%3Aports.ubuntu.com+-site%3Aconflictchecker.ubuntu.com+-site%3Avideos.ubuntu.com+-site%3Akernel.ubuntu.com+-site%3Amerges.ubuntu.com+-site%3Ahelp
[14:55] <mpt> .ubuntu.com+-site%3Aupstart.ubuntu.com+-site%3Aisv-image.ubuntu.com+-site%3Aold-releases.ubuntu.com+-site%3Areleases.ubuntu.com+-site%3Acdimages.ubuntu.com+-site%3Atorrent.ubuntu.com+-site%3Airclogs.ubuntu.com+-site%3Apeople.ubuntu.com+-site%3Apatches.ubuntu.com+-site%3Acdimage.ubuntu.com+-site%3Asecurity.ubuntu.com+-site%3Aarchive.ubuntu.com&btnG=Search> so far :-)
[14:55] <mpt> hehe, http://prat.ubuntu.com/
[14:56] <mpt> ok, that's the end
[14:58] <newz2000> \o/
[15:00] <mpt> Weird, prat.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com seem to be identical, but auckland.ubuntu.com has a different modification date at the top level
[15:09] <mpt> Ok, I've submitted two RT requests, one on auckland vs. prat vs. archive, the other on isvimage vs. isv-image
[15:09] <newz2000> I'll research seek-test and get an RT for that soon
[15:10] <mpt> I have a new appreciation for how vast Ubuntu's Web presence is
[15:10] <mpt> (and therefore how mind-boggling it is for just one person to be responsible for it all)
[15:11] <newz2000> I would be more productive if the gnome file open (or save) dialog was more efficient
[15:11] <newz2000> :-)
[15:11]  * newz2000 chuckles
[15:12] <newz2000> sorry, feeble attempt at humour
[15:14] <newz2000> actually I've made a request to hire another webmaster, one whose strengths lie in the world of graphic design to compliment my deficiency in that area
[15:14] <newz2000> so far andrew is not convinced we need one
[15:15] <newz2000> but we're getting behind as time goes by and it prevents us from doing cool proactive stuff like user testing, optimizing navigation, etc.
[15:15] <newz2000> fortunately we have the webteam. Maybe once we get going we'll get ahead of the game
[15:16] <mpt> Do you find that sometimes when you press Ctrl O (or Ctrl S) the file dialog takes 20~30 seconds to appear?
[15:16] <mpt> I get that sometimes, and I've never understood why
[15:16] <newz2000> no
[15:17] <newz2000> oh, wait, I have had that, but not recently
[15:17] <newz2000> I thought it was something related to mounted drive like a network share or an SD card because that would happen in Windows too for that reason
[15:18] <newz2000> (back in the day)
[15:19] <newz2000> have you noticed that in many dialogs if you start typing it does the wrong thing? For example, in the save dialog often the text field is not focused by default so typing starts a search in the file list
[15:19] <newz2000> and if you click on the left side to choose desktop then it starts a search in the left side but really you want to start typing your file name
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[16:44] <mpt> yes
[16:45] <mpt> and it's gratuitously difficult to unfocus the auto-complete field
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[18:42] <vbabiy> newz2000: hey how are you?
[18:43] <newz2000> hey vbabiy, good here, how are you?
[18:43] <vbabiy> Not bad, how are things going
[18:43] <newz2000> don't ask because the answer ends with, "wanna help?"
[18:43] <newz2000> :-)
[18:44] <vbabiy> newz2000: is there anything little project because I am pretty packed right now, got a few projects going on at once
[18:44] <newz2000> nah, don't sweat it. We've got the start page and feature tour that I'd love to get some help with but both of those are going to take some big help
[18:45] <vbabiy> newz2000: can I see what you have for the feature tour
[18:46] <vbabiy> Sorry, about this I really wanted to help I just go so much work right now its crazy
[18:46] <newz2000> well, we decided to go with BnaryDigit's mockup with some modifications
[18:46]  * newz2000 gets the link
[18:46] <newz2000> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/IntrepidStartPage
[18:46] <newz2000> I edited that page to make it more clear
[18:47] <vbabiy> is it the one at the bottom
[18:47] <newz2000> the top one
[18:48] <vbabiy> O isee
[18:48] <vbabiy> did you get a feature tour design?
[18:48] <newz2000> no, I'm going to get that started and then ask for help on smaller bits because I think its too big and people are hesitant to take on too much work when it's not clearly defined
[18:50] <vbabiy> yeah the release is coming up soon
[18:50] <newz2000> indeed
[18:50] <newz2000> I've got to make the homepage banner for beta tomorrow because beta is Thurs I think
[18:50] <newz2000> we'll be using thorwill's brown countdown banner there \o/
[18:52] <vbabiy> wow sounds like you got your hands full
[18:52] <newz2000> yeah it does
[18:52] <newz2000> and I'm not doing any of that stuff at the moment
[18:52] <newz2000> I'm setting up a wysiwyg editor so that someone can send html newsletters to canonical partners. :-)
[23:05] <newz2000> ah, too bad mdke isn't here, I got his editbar thingy working