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| Marie_untu | i am trying to customise the edubuntu usplash screen | 09:14 |
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| Marie_untu | I already did it but | 09:15 |
| Marie_untu | with the server the new usplash works fine but | 09:15 |
| Marie_untu | the thin clients stop running in the usplash | 09:16 |
| Marie_untu | anyone knows why? thanks | 09:17 |
| Marie_untu | I am using a different kernel version in the clients, maybe that is the reason | 09:19 |
| Marie_untu | but I cant update the kernel in the clients, after chroot to ltsp | 09:19 |
| nubae | have u done ltsp-update-kernels? | 09:20 |
| Marie_untu | yep | 09:21 |
| Marie_untu | but do i need chroot??? | 09:22 |
| Marie_untu | from the server ltsp-update-kernels says "Updating /var/lib/tftpboot directories for chroot: /opt/ltsp/i386" | 09:24 |
| Marie_untu | but the kernel is not updated | 09:24 |
| Marie_untu | in the clients i cant connect to the repositories "Could not resolve ‘gb.archive.ubuntu.com’" | 09:26 |
| Marie_untu | I am not behind a proxy | 09:26 |
| nubae | Marie_untu: copy the sources.list from the server to the thin client | 09:26 |
| Marie_untu | i did it | 09:26 |
| Marie_untu | but it seems that the chroot has not internet connection, dont know why | 09:27 |
| nubae | you are doing chroot /opt/ltsp/i386? | 09:27 |
| Marie_untu | in the clients I have connection but in the chroot i havent | 09:27 |
| Marie_untu | yep | 09:27 |
| nubae | and then apt-get update | 09:27 |
| Marie_untu | yes | 09:27 |
| nubae | check to see whats in the sources.list in the thin client | 09:28 |
| Marie_untu | the same as in the server | 09:28 |
| nubae | from the server u can do apt-get update? | 09:28 |
| Marie_untu | yes | 09:29 |
| Marie_untu | from the server i can | 09:29 |
| nubae | have u modified the chroot at all? | 09:29 |
| Marie_untu | i checked and yes the repositories are the same in booth | 09:29 |
| nubae | installed anyhting extra? | 09:29 |
| Marie_untu | nope | 09:29 |
| nubae | hmm. | 09:29 |
| Marie_untu | i have search at google and the only thing i get is that if i am behind a proxy i should have some problems | 09:30 |
| Marie_untu | but i am not behind a proxy | 09:30 |
| nubae | try setting up resolv.conf in the thin client | 09:32 |
| nubae | it shouldn't be necessary, but try | 09:32 |
| Marie_untu | ok, how can i set up resolv.conf? | 09:33 |
| nubae | copy it across from the server | 09:33 |
| nubae | /etc/resolv.conf to /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/resolv.conf | 09:33 |
| Marie_untu | ok | 09:34 |
| Marie_untu | koooool | 09:35 |
| Marie_untu | now | 09:35 |
| Marie_untu | thanks man | 09:35 |
| nubae | enjoy | 09:35 |
| Marie_untu | so to update the kernels i must use ltsp-update-kernels?? | 09:35 |
| Marie_untu | but from the server or from the chroot? | 09:36 |
| Marie_untu | the chroot i guess | 09:36 |
| nubae | do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade in client | 09:36 |
| nubae | then ltsp-update-kernels | 09:36 |
| nubae | then ltsp-update-image | 09:36 |
| Marie_untu | ok | 09:36 |
| Marie_untu | in client you mean in the chroot? | 09:36 |
| nubae | yes | 09:36 |
| Marie_untu | ok cheers mate | 09:36 |
| Marie_untu | i ll try that, hope the usplash will work that way | 09:37 |
| Marie_untu | i ll be around | 09:37 |
| Marie_untu | av a nice day | 09:37 |
| nubae | thanks, same | 09:37 |
| Marie_untu | hi again nubae | 09:56 |
| Marie_untu | ok i did the apt-get update and upgrade, everything ok | 09:56 |
| Marie_untu | then from the server i did ltsp-update-kernel and it says "Updating /var/lib/tftpboot directories for chroot: /opt/ltsp/i386" | 09:57 |
| Marie_untu | but the kernel in the clients still the same 1.6.14-16 | 09:57 |
| Marie_untu | sorry 2.6.24-16 | 09:58 |
| Marie_untu | instead of 2.6.24-19 | 09:58 |
| Marie_untu | ok wait, i forgot ltsp-update-image | 10:00 |
| Marie_untu | coz in the chroot "uname -a" shows the 2.6.24-19 version | 10:01 |
| nubae | right ltsp-update-image is important :-) | 10:03 |
| Marie_untu | ooops | 10:07 |
| Marie_untu | not working | 10:07 |
| nubae | whats the problem? | 10:08 |
| Marie_untu | in the /opt/ltsp/i386/boot the same 2.6.24-16 kernel appears | 10:08 |
| Marie_untu | not the -19 | 10:08 |
| nubae | what is in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386? | 10:09 |
| Marie_untu | the 2.6.24-16 version, not the -19 | 10:10 |
| nubae | hmmm | 10:10 |
| Marie_untu | a bit strange | 10:10 |
| nubae | it is if update-kernels is telling u it modified it | 10:11 |
| Marie_untu | nop | 10:11 |
| Marie_untu | it just says "Updating /var/lib/tftpboot directories for chroot: /opt/ltsp/i386" | 10:11 |
| Marie_untu | but not any of "`/opt/ltsp/i386/boot/vmlinuz' -> `/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/vmlinuz' `/opt/ltsp/i386/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-20-386' -> `/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/vmlinuz-2.6.15-20-386' `/opt/ltsp/i386/boot/initrd.img' -> `/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/initrd.img' `/opt/ltsp/i386/boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-20-386' -> `/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/initrd.img-2.6.15-20-386' " or whatever | 10:12 |
| Marie_untu | as the edubuntu cookbook says it may appear after ltsp-kernels-update | 10:12 |
| nubae | wait, do ltsp-update-kernels now | 10:13 |
| Marie_untu | very strange, because in the chroot uname says "Linux ubu-laptop 2.6.24-19-generic" | 10:13 |
| nubae | then check the files in /var/lib/tftpboot | 10:14 |
| Marie_untu | same, the -19 version doesnt appear there | 10:14 |
| nubae | then update-kernels isn't working it seems | 10:15 |
| Marie_untu | yep, it seems so | 10:15 |
| Marie_untu | so what can i do, any idea? | 10:15 |
| Marie_untu | why? :) | 10:15 |
| nubae | manually copy /opt/ltsp/boot to /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386 | 10:16 |
| Marie_untu | to be honest i didnt make any change to the system at all | 10:16 |
| Marie_untu | ok | 10:16 |
| nubae | but u should really look at the underlying causes, it makes no sense | 10:16 |
| Marie_untu | ok, thanks | 10:17 |
| Marie_untu | but do you know any underlying cause that can be causing the problem?? | 10:18 |
| Marie_untu | or how can i debug it? | 10:18 |
| nubae | well I would take a look at the ltsp-update-kernels script and see whats failing | 10:19 |
| Marie_untu | ok wait, i remember now, | 10:19 |
| Marie_untu | when i changed the usplash i manually update the initramfs | 10:20 |
| Marie_untu | and the i copied the kernel to the /var/lib/tftpboot | 10:20 |
| Marie_untu | it could be that the reason? | 10:21 |
| nubae | yep | 10:21 |
| Marie_untu | do you know what can i do to solve it? | 10:21 |
| nubae | u dont need to manually do initramfs iirc, ltsp-update-kernels should take care of that (maybe...) | 10:21 |
| Marie_untu | ok ok, thanks | 10:21 |
| nubae | u definetly dont need to copy it across though | 10:21 |
| Marie_untu | so that cause the problem | 10:22 |
| nubae | so that probably messed it uü | 10:22 |
| nubae | up | 10:22 |
| nubae | permissions and such | 10:22 |
| Marie_untu | ok, i write it down that :) | 10:22 |
| Marie_untu | so now, how can i restore it? | 10:22 |
| nubae | recreate the chroot with build-ltsp-client | 10:22 |
| nubae | or maybe just delete /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386 | 10:23 |
| nubae | and then do ltsp-update-kernels | 10:23 |
| Marie_untu | ok I ll try that | 10:23 |
| Marie_untu | it is gonna channge any of my clients configuration or users? | 10:23 |
| nubae | if u have a lts.conf file yes | 10:24 |
| Marie_untu | nop i havent | 10:24 |
| Marie_untu | the only special thing i have are the user accounts, that i guess they will still the same after that | 10:25 |
| Marie_untu | isnt it | 10:25 |
| nubae | yeah | 10:25 |
| Marie_untu | anyway i ll do a back up just in case | 10:25 |
| Marie_untu | thanks veeeeery much :) | 10:25 |
| Marie_untu | ok, delete /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386 and then ltsp-update-kernels doens work, same results | 10:30 |
| Marie_untu | build-ltsp-client says "command not found" | 10:30 |
| nubae | ltsp-build-client | 10:30 |
| nubae | u have to delete /opt/ltsp/i386 though first, or back it up | 10:31 |
| Marie_untu | ok :) | 10:31 |
| Marie_untu | wait, I have a backup before I change the initrdimg | 10:32 |
| Marie_untu | should i restore it by removing the /opt/ltsp/i386 and copy the backed up folder? | 10:32 |
| Marie_untu | or it is better to build the client again? | 10:33 |
| Marie_untu | never mind, dont answer, silly question | 10:34 |
| Marie_untu | :) | 10:34 |
| Marie_untu | thanks veeery much, again | 10:34 |
| Marie_untu | cya aroundç | 10:34 |
| Marie_untu | ok | 11:25 |
| Marie_untu | nubae | 11:25 |
| Marie_untu | after built the ltsp client | 11:25 |
| Marie_untu | the problem still there | 11:25 |
| Marie_untu | same as before | 11:25 |
| Marie_untu | using kernel -16 not -19 | 11:26 |
| Marie_untu | ltsp-update-kernels same results | 11:26 |
| Marie_untu | the thing is I changed the usplash on the server, so I update-initramfs in the server so the usplash can be updated | 11:27 |
| nubae | so do that in the client too | 11:27 |
| nubae | and then, without copying the image manually... do ltsp-update-keys | 11:28 |
| Marie_untu | ok, but the thing the server is using -19 and the clients still with the -16 | 11:29 |
| Marie_untu | im a bit fustrated now :) | 11:30 |
| nubae | u need to go into chroot and apt-get update and apt-get upgrade | 11:31 |
| Marie_untu | i did it | 11:31 |
| Marie_untu | client updated and upgraded | 11:31 |
| Marie_untu | but then ltsp-update-kernels not working | 11:31 |
| Marie_untu | doenst change the kernel | 11:32 |
| Marie_untu | so i should copy the kernel manually | 11:33 |
| Marie_untu | but i just want to resolve the ltsp-update-kernel problem | 11:33 |
| Marie_untu | which kernel version are you using in the clients??? | 11:36 |
| Marie_untu | maybe it doesnt allow to upgrade to the -19??!! | 11:36 |
| Marie_untu | should I manually copy the /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-19-generic to /opt/ltsp/i386/boot and to/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386???? | 11:38 |
| Marie_untu | heyyy, anyone knows any related problem with ltsp-update-kernels and the update-initramfs???? | 12:07 |
| Marie_untu | aptitude search usplash | 12:09 |
| Marie_untu | ooops | 12:09 |
| Marie_untu | this is a hell :) | 12:16 |
| Marie_untu | why when i change the usplash to the clients it doesnt boot??? | 12:16 |
| Marie_untu | why? :0 | 12:17 |
| Marie_untu | is anybody out there?? | 12:21 |
| marketia | heya all | 13:28 |
| === Rondom_ is now known as Rondom | ||
| sbalneav | Morning all | 14:43 |
| === nixternal_ is now known as nixternal | ||
| stgraber | ogra: I filed bug 273147 and bug 274803 | 15:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 273147 in ltspfs "Usb stick (flash drive) does not pop up on the Gnome desktop" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/273147 | 15:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 274803 in ltsp "Allow shutdown to be started as root on thin clients (localapps)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274803 | 15:02 |
| stgraber | well, I updated the first and filed the second | 15:03 |
| stgraber | morning sbalneav | 15:03 |
| Marie_untu | I have a problem updating the kernels on the clients | 16:06 |
| Marie_untu | the server is running the 2.6.24-19-generic and the clients the 2.6.24-16-generic | 16:07 |
| Marie_untu | I have already upgraded the clients in the chroot | 16:07 |
| Marie_untu | when i execute the ltsp-update-kernels the clients' kernel is not updated, it still the -16-generic | 16:08 |
| Marie_untu | the only thing I changed is the usplash in the server, and then i executed update-initramfs | 16:09 |
| Marie_untu | any idea? it is a bug or a misconfiguration problem? | 16:10 |
| Marie_untu | ok, next quest. | 16:24 |
| Marie_untu | how can I change manually the kernel in the clients?? | 16:25 |
| Marie_untu | is anybody out there?? | 16:30 |
| sbalneav | Marie_untu: So, you've done an apt-get upgrade in the chroot? | 16:31 |
| Marie_untu | yep | 16:31 |
| Marie_untu | and its upgrade sucessfully | 16:31 |
| sbalneav | so if you do a chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 | 16:32 |
| Marie_untu | but then i do ltsp-update-kernels, and the kernels are not updated | 16:32 |
| sbalneav | dpkg -l | grep linux-image, you see that the 2.6.24-19-generic's there? | 16:32 |
| Marie_untu | ok i did dpkg but the -19-generic is not there | 16:33 |
| sbalneav | ok, then it didn't get upgraded in the chroot. | 16:34 |
| Marie_untu | so how can i upgrade the kernels | 16:34 |
| Marie_untu | in the chroot i did apt-get upgrade 4 times or more | 16:35 |
| sbalneav | What are you running, hardy? | 16:36 |
| Marie_untu | yep | 16:36 |
| Marie_untu | 8.04 | 16:36 |
| Marie_untu | as I said before the only thing I changed is the usplash in the server, and then i executed update-initramfs | 16:36 |
| sbalneav | Usually the hardy-updates apt line isn't included in the ltsp chroot's apt setup | 16:36 |
| Marie_untu | maybe that have something to do with that | 16:37 |
| sbalneav | Well, the usplash in the server doesn't have anything to do with the clients | 16:37 |
| sbalneav | here's what I'd do. | 16:37 |
| sbalneav | exit out of the chroot | 16:37 |
| sbalneav | cp /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list.orig | 16:37 |
| Marie_untu | ok i did that already | 16:38 |
| sbalneav | cp /etc/apt/sources.list /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list | 16:38 |
| Marie_untu | sources.list is the same in both | 16:38 |
| sbalneav | grep hardy-updates /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list | 16:39 |
| Marie_untu | I even built the image again | 16:39 |
| sbalneav | Do you get any lines showing up from the above grep statement? | 16:40 |
| Marie_untu | yep | 16:41 |
| Marie_untu | deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates main restricted | 16:42 |
| Marie_untu | deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates main restricted | 16:42 |
| Marie_untu | deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates universe | 16:42 |
| Marie_untu | deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates universe | 16:42 |
| Marie_untu | deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates multiverse | 16:42 |
| Marie_untu | deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates multiverse | 16:42 |
| Marie_untu | when i execute ltsp-update-kernels it says: "Updating /var/lib/tftpboot directories for chroot: /opt/ltsp/i386" but the kernel still the same -16-generic | 16:43 |
| sbalneav | well, that's because you've only got the -16 installed in the chroot. | 16:43 |
| sbalneav | what happens if you do a dist-upgrade in the chroot? | 16:43 |
| Marie_untu | "bash: dist-upgrade: command not found" | 16:44 |
| sbalneav | chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get dist-upgrade | 16:45 |
| sbalneav | I'm assuming you did the apt-get update first, right? | 16:45 |
| Marie_untu | ok! | 16:46 |
| Marie_untu | it seems the kernel is upgrading | 16:46 |
| Marie_untu | but why it is not upgraded with the lstp-upgrade-kernels | 16:47 |
| Marie_untu | it is maybe a bug??? | 16:47 |
| sbalneav | Well, ltsp-upgrade-kernels just copies the kernel in the chroot to the tftp area | 16:47 |
| sbalneav | so, if you've got an older kernel in the chroot, that's all it's going to copy | 16:47 |
| sbalneav | so, you have to get the chroot updated first, then you can do the ltsp-upgrade-kernels | 16:48 |
| Marie_untu | heyyy | 16:48 |
| sbalneav | as well, after the upgrade's done, you'll want to do the ltsp-update-image again. | 16:48 |
| Marie_untu | but i upgraded the chroot firts | 16:48 |
| Marie_untu | ok i can imaging | 16:48 |
| sbalneav | well, you didn't, because you still had only a -16 in the chroot. | 16:49 |
| Marie_untu | so this is why i ask here, because i apt-get updated the chroot around 10 times | 16:49 |
| Marie_untu | so now if i want to change the usplash in the chroot | 16:50 |
| sbalneav | But you didn't do a dist-upgrade | 16:50 |
| Marie_untu | i just need to cp usplash-new.so to /ltsp/i386/usr/lib/usplash | 16:51 |
| sbalneav | it didn't update until you did that. | 16:51 |
| Marie_untu | yep i just dist-upgrade right now | 16:51 |
| Marie_untu | hold down, the dist-upgrade takes the kernel from the server or from the repositorie??? | 16:52 |
| Marie_untu | ok, from the repositorie | 16:53 |
| Marie_untu | so if I change the usplash now in the chroot and then I update the initramfs it should work | 16:53 |
| Marie_untu | isnt it??? | 16:53 |
| Marie_untu | I have been with this usplash issue all day!!!! :0 | 16:54 |
| Marie_untu | heyy sbalneav | 16:57 |
| Marie_untu | thanks very much :) | 16:57 |
| jc2it | I have Ubuntu 8.04 + LTSP 5. It works for the most part. There are inconsistancies which appear to relate to a graphics card problem, although I am not convinced of that. One issue we have noticed is when the user on the thin client changes to a screen saver it returns that Thin client to the login screen. Someone here suggested it was a bug. I would like to track it down. Yesterday I got my Thinclients set up so I can get a root shell in the | 17:19 |
| jc2it | Thin client by pressing Ctrl+Atl+F2 | 17:19 |
| jc2it | Where should I look to see what is actually happening when it returns the user to the LDM login screen | 17:19 |
| sbalneav | Sorry, was afk for a bit | 17:20 |
| sbalneav | jc2it: probably is a bug, but quite frankly, you don't want any other screen saver other than "Black screen" on a thin client anyway | 17:22 |
| sbalneav | And I know that one works :) | 17:22 |
| jc2it | Yes this is true the screen does blank. The reason I was focusing on the screen saver is because I think it might lead to some of the other issues that are harder to describe | 17:24 |
| sbalneav | Sometimes, opengl instructions don't go remotely across the network, resulting in X server resets, which will kick you back to a login prompt. | 17:25 |
| jc2it | so does this mean that the x.org log would track such an event? | 17:27 |
| jc2it | on the client | 17:27 |
| jc2it | or server | 17:27 |
| sbalneav | On the client, usually | 17:29 |
| sbalneav | Sometimes you can also get an error in the users $HOME/.xsession-errors | 17:29 |
| Marie_untu | how can I change the usplash screen on the clients, I have already the usplash-theme.so | 17:45 |
| Marie_untu | I can change it sucessfully in the server, but I cant in the clients | 17:45 |
| Marie_untu | any idea?? | 17:46 |
| Marie_untu | anybody out there??? | 17:51 |
| jc2it | in /home/<usr>/.xsession-errors | 17:58 |
| jc2it | gnome-screensaver-preferences: Fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server 192.168.0.239:6.0. | 17:59 |
| Marie_untu | anyone around knows how the clients' usplash works???? | 18:06 |
| Marie_untu | is anybody in here?? please at least say hi | 18:07 |
| Marie_untu | or just say, nope no idea, go away :) or something similar | 18:08 |
| nubae | Marie_untu: still the same problem? | 18:24 |
| Marie_untu | heyyy | 18:27 |
| Marie_untu | not really | 18:27 |
| Marie_untu | the kernel is updated sucessfully | 18:27 |
| nubae | what did u do to fix it? | 18:27 |
| Marie_untu | now i cant change the usplash on the client | 18:27 |
| Marie_untu | apt-get dist-upgrade in the chroot | 18:28 |
| nubae | ah yes... | 18:28 |
| stgraber | ogra: one more bug for you :) bug 274902 | 19:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 274902 in ltsp "PULSE_SERVER not set for localapps" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274902 | 19:14 |
| sbalneav | Back from lunch | 19:59 |
| sbalneav | Marie_untu: You'd need to rebuild the initramfs in the chroot, then re-run ltsp-update-kernels | 20:00 |
| stgraber | sbalneav: btw, I filed bug 274902 as an Ubuntu bug but I guess it's something that'd need to go upstream as xrexecd.sh is an upstream script. | 20:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 274902 in ltsp "PULSE_SERVER not set for localapps" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274902 | 20:50 |
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