[00:02] <Haza> So would i be safe to just do an upgrade from kubuntu 7 to kubuntu 8?
[00:02] <eagles0513875> ive done it before no problems
[00:02] <Haza> eagles0513875: Cheers mate. I just wanted to be sure
[00:03] <Haza> This is my development laptop :)
[00:03] <eagles0513875> Haza: lol if its dev what u gotta loose
[00:03] <eagles0513875> night all
[00:04] <richardbh> does anyone know how to turn off the program opened/program closed noises?
[00:04] <richardbh> they only started today
[00:07] <jose> ops
[00:12] <richardbh> ok..i updated various things today. Does anyone else have little sparkly noises play whenever you open, close, minimise or maximise something?
[00:13] <mefisto__> richardbh: you can configure all that in systemsettings > notifications
[00:15] <richardbh> ahha, thanks mefisto__
[00:23] <killa_> does any one have solutions for choppy flash playback in firefox - ubuntu 8.04
[00:24] <x_link> Hi
[00:24] <x_link> I just have a question.
[00:24] <x_link> I installed Kubuntu on my laptop that I bought today.
[00:24] <x_link> I did something right now and the speaker-icon next to the clock dissapeared.
[00:24] <x_link> How can I get it back?
[00:25] <cosmofield> x_link: kmix
[00:26] <x_link> cosmofield: Okey, will take a look.
[00:26] <x_link> cosmofield: Thanks
[00:27] <x_link> cosmofield: I have another problem.
[00:27] <x_link> I can't get any sound.
[00:27] <x_link> On my new laptop.
[00:27] <x_link> When I have the mousepointer over the speaker-icon it says that the volume is on max and I see a picture of a headphone.
[00:27] <x_link> But I don't get any sound at all.
[00:28] <x_link> Card: HDA Intel
[00:28] <x_link> Chip: Realtek ALC861-VD
[00:28] <x_link> View: [Playback] Capture All
[00:28] <x_link> That's what alsamixer says.
[00:28] <x_link> And I use Kubuntu Gutsy. A guy just told me that this card is not supported in Gutsy. But can that really be true?
[00:29] <cosmofield> x_link: true, in hardy it is working ootb, I have the same sound card in my laptop
[00:30] <x_link> cosmofield: Wow, that's really not good news =/
[00:30] <x_link> cosmofield: So I can't do anything about it at all except from re-installing?
 ok..i updated various things today. Does anyone else have little sparkly noises play whenever you open, close, minimise or maximise something?
[00:31] <cosmofield> x_link: it is easy to get it work, I just edited a config file, don't remember exactly
[00:32] <x_link> Okey, in Gutsy+
[00:32] <x_link> ?
[00:32] <x_link> Or do I really have to install Hardy?
[00:32] <Denise> it is ok
[00:33] <cosmofield> x_link: you need to recompile alsa, there's various howto guides covering that sound card in gutsy
[00:33] <x_link> cosmofield: Okey, I REALLY suck on this.
[00:33] <x_link> I really don't know much about Linux and absolutly not about compiling.
[00:33] <chris_foster> hi, i installed lm sensors, and it always displays my cpu and case heat at 25C, I know something is wrong. Is that what lmsensors displays when it cant find those sensors?
[00:35] <Denise> what is wrong
[00:36] <chris_foster> I dont think that it should stay at the same exact temp all the time, because one of my sensors works and it varies alot
[00:36] <x_link> cosmofield: Wouldn't a newer kernel help?
[00:36] <Denise> oh
[00:37] <Denise> men things
[00:37] <maxsuel> ooooooooooooooo
[00:39] <x_link> Which is the newest kernel för Kubuntu Gutsy?
[00:39] <x_link> Is it 2.6.22-14-generic?
[00:39] <cosmofield> x_link: may I ask why do you use gutsy anyway? :/
[00:40] <x_link> cosmofield: I don't know =)
[00:40] <Denise> for the guts
[00:40] <cosmofield> x_link: there's one site with info about re-compile alsamixer  http://www.masclat-micros.com/alc861vd.htm
[00:40] <x_link> There were some things that I didn't like in Hardy. But I don't remember which things. Was a couple of months ago I used Linux.
[00:41] <x_link> cosmofield: Okey, thanks will take a look. But I don't know how to compile.
[00:47] <x_link> cosmofield: Maybe I should just change all "gutsy" to "hardy" in my repo and upgrade?
[00:49] <cosmofield> x_link: try do a fresh hardy installation instead :)
[00:49] <cosmofield> if you upgrade, is's a small chance that the sound still not working
[00:50] <x_link> cosmofield: Okey.
[00:59] <anger_> Olá, boa noite!
[00:59] <anger_> Alguém usa KURUMIN NG???
[01:00] <Denise> ok
[01:00] <Denise> i go
[01:00] <Denise> merde
[01:00] <anger_> Hello! Somebody here talks portuguese?
[01:01] <Denise> ask to pedro
[01:01] <Denise> he does
[01:01] <anger_> And you Denise? Are you French?
[01:01] <Denise> yes
[01:01] <dr_willis> No hoblo
[01:01] <Denise> why
[01:01] <Denise> do i look french?
[01:02] <anger_> Yes. I think so...
[01:02] <Denise> ok
[01:02] <Denise> i choose to take it as a compliment
[01:02] <anger_> Something tell this to me.
[01:02] <anger_> Am i right?
[01:02] <Denise> yes
[01:02] <Denise> you are right
[01:02] <anger_> Oh...my God...It's incredible
[01:03] <Denise> oh
[01:03] <dr_willis> My Brother In law is a French Pastry Chef.
[01:03] <dr_willis> :)
[01:03] <Denise> and why is that
[01:03] <anger_> Hummm
[01:03] <Denise> french pastry chef
[01:03] <Denise> oh
[01:03] <dr_willis> He made his own wedding cake..  it had so much   alcohol in the iceing.. you got drunk just walking by it.
[01:03] <Denise> lol
[01:03] <anger_> I'm very happy to talk with a Frech girl...
[01:03] <Denise> no
[01:03] <Denise> no
[01:03] <Denise> i hate addicts
[01:04] <anger_> I'm Brazilian
[01:04] <Denise> ah bon
[01:04] <anger_> What is "Addicts"?
[01:04] <Denise> bizarre
[01:04] <stdin> erm, servilely offtopic chat going on here
[01:04] <Denise> drunks
[01:04] <Denise> oh
[01:04] <Denise> sorry
[01:04] <Denise> only the joy to be unbanned
[01:23] <ForgeAus> heya ll :)
[01:23] <x_link> cosmofield: Hi again, still there?
[01:24] <cosmofield> x_link: Hi
[01:24] <x_link> cosmofield: I just did those things on the URL you linked me. So I'm rebooting now to see if it works =)
[01:24] <x_link> I REALLY hope it will work =)
[01:25] <cosmofield> x_link: Ok, hope it will work the first time, or else change some settings :)
[01:26] <x_link> cosmofield: Okey, now it's time to try it out =)
[01:27] <x_link> cosmofield: Still doesn't work = /
[01:28] <x_link> But it seems like the headphones are supposed to be in use.
[01:28] <x_link> Why is that?
[01:28] <x_link> Item: Headphone.
[01:28] <x_link> Why does it say headphone?
[01:28] <x_link> I don't have my headphones plugged in.
[01:31] <x_link> cosmofield: The sound works now =)
[01:31] <x_link> But ONLY with the headphones =/
[01:32] <x_link> When I pull out the headphones it makes a LOAD BEEP-sound
[01:35] <cosmofield> x_link: what computer do you have?
[01:36] <x_link> cosmofield: Lenovo N200.
[01:36] <x_link> Ojjj
[01:36] <x_link> Now it works without the headphone as well =)
[01:37] <x_link> But it's not working propely.
[01:37] <x_link> I will install Kubuntu Hardy tomorrow instead.
[01:38] <cosmofield> x_link: what's not working propely?
[01:38] <x_link> cosmofield: I can't put up/down the colume,.
[01:38] <x_link> cosmofield: You know where I can get Kubuntu Hardy?
[01:38] <x_link> Sorry
[01:39] <x_link> Kubuntu Hardy Alternate
[01:39] <o0Chris0o> !hardy
[01:39] <x_link> o0Chris0o: I don't want Ubuntu.
[01:39] <x_link> It's Ubuntu on that link.
[01:39] <x_link> I want Kubuntu Hardy Alternate
[01:39] <o0Chris0o> !kubuntu
[01:40] <x_link> I found it.
[01:40] <x_link> o0Chris0o: Thanks anyway.
[01:40] <o0Chris0o> alternate downloads are also on kubuntu.org website
[01:40] <cosmofield> x_link: Good luck with 8.04 :)
[01:41] <x_link> cosmofield: You think it will work better with Hardy?
[01:41] <x_link> cosmofield: Is there any 8.10?
[01:42] <x_link> I heard a guy talk about 8.10 a short while ago.
[01:42] <x_link> 1-2 hours ago, but not in this channel.
[01:42] <cosmofield> x_link: I would probably wait about one month for 8.10
[01:42] <x_link> Alright.
[01:42] <x_link> Then I will go for Hardy.
[01:42] <cosmofield> else you will download a lot of updates
[01:43] <x_link> cosmofield: You think the sound will work properly with hardy?
[01:43] <x_link> Since it's newer.
[01:43] <cosmofield> x_link: try kde live version first and find out
[01:46] <x_link> cosmofield: Okey, where can I get that?
[01:47] <cosmofield> !kubuntu
[01:48] <x_link> cosmofield: Okey, I will just install Hardy right away instead.
[01:48] <CoJaBo-Eee> Why does my Firefox say its 3.0.3? I thought the latest was 3.0.2? o_O
[01:49] <cosmofield> it was a firefox update today
[01:53] <o0Chris0o> updates = mmmm good
[01:54] <x_link> cosmofield: I must go now. But thanks alot for your help. I really appreciate it alot.
[01:55] <x_link> cosmofield: I will be back tomorrow again when I have installed Hardy instead, then I will tell you if it made a difference.
[01:55] <x_link> Good night!
[01:55] <cosmofield> x_link: oki, bye~ ^_^
[01:55] <Denise> last time
[01:56] <ForgeAus> speaking of firefox 3.03 theres no what's new pagerofl
[01:57] <ForgeAus> it came up telling me: Hmmm, we’re having trouble finding that one.
[02:00] <Denise> assholes
[02:02] <o0Chris0o> hmm
[02:02] <anger_> !Luciano
[02:02]  * o0Chris0o smacks Denise with the latest edition of kubuntu
[02:02] <anger_> !nick
[02:04] <Sad> Is there any one from Brazil or Portugal?
[02:04] <o0Chris0o> !br
[02:05] <ForgeAus> isn't luciano a pokemon or something? ...
[02:10] <anger_> !br
[02:15] <cosmofield> sometimes I can only start firefox from the cmd line, from the menu it will only show a bounching icon, do this happened to somebody else? :/
[02:20] <nash> hello
[02:20] <ctw> Hi! I just ran into a installation issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/50686/ Any idea how to fix this?
[02:24] <NCommander> ctw, try sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade && sudo aptitude installpython-enthought-chaco2
[02:24] <ctw> Fixed it with a apt-get remove, apt-get clean, and another apt-get install
[02:25] <NCommander> oh
[02:25] <NCommander> heh
[02:25] <ctw> NCommander: thanks anyway
[02:31] <bdizzle> okay, I realize C++ makes .exe files, but is there a C++ compiler that I can use in Kubuntu, then run wine to run the programs?
[02:31] <bdizzle> I've got a programming class next semester and I don't have enough penguin water to purify myself after booting up into the windows partition of my computer
[02:33] <ctw> bdizzle: you can make linux executables with C++
[02:33] <dr_willis> C++ dosent really make .exe files.. it compiles code.. :)
[02:34] <dr_willis> under windows the compiled code has .exe extension
[02:34] <dr_willis> There are Compilers for Linux. bdizzle
[02:35] <bdizzle> okay, so then then what would be a program in Kubuntu that will compile code into both .exe and its equivalent command-line file in linux?
[02:35] <dr_willis> gcc can do cross compilation.
[02:35] <dr_willis> and ive never done it.. so thats about all i know on the topic.
[02:36] <bdizzle> ok, at least its a start for me to look into
[02:36] <dr_willis> !compiler
[02:36] <dr_willis> !C++
[02:36] <dr_willis> I tend to use perl/python :) then the stuff runs under windows or linux
[02:36] <sumo_su> !.run
[02:37] <sumo_su> !run
[02:37] <dr_willis> Or ya can go hard-core and use  some of the Free Basics out! :)
[02:40]  * chalcedony smiles
[02:41] <chalcedony> does this command work in kubuntu?  chull@vir:~$  cat /proc/asound/cards  #and
[02:41] <dr_willis> try it and see?
[02:41] <dr_willis>  cat /proc/asound/cards   should work. i think
[02:43] <chalcedony> dr_willis: then something is broken in my husband's installation
[02:43] <chalcedony> cat: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory
 <chull> chull@vir:~$
 <gnubien> chull: your ubuntu install is broken somehow, dont know how to fix it
[02:45] <dr_willis> cat /proc/asound/cards
[02:45] <dr_willis>  0 [NVidia         ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
[02:45] <dr_willis> it works here.
[02:45] <o0Chris0o> 0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel :D
[02:47] <dr_willis> but but but... hda is a hard drive! :)
[02:52] <DaskreecH> Hallo
[02:52] <DaskreecH> trying to get fglrx running
[02:53] <DaskreecH> When I run sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko I get a error not permitted
[02:59] <DaskreecH> !ati
[03:05] <scienceboy> hi. i'm running kubuntu 7.xx. it has been working just fine, but all of a sudden i noticed that its been getting really unresponsive and slow. does anyone know why that might be?
[03:07] <lovre> hello all
[03:08] <lovre> on my ext3 partition (not the one with OS), there is a folder lost+found. It is allways empty. Can i delete this folder?
[03:09] <dr_willis> lovre,  leave it alone.. when the drive gets fscked, it would just remake it.
[03:09] <dr_willis> if any errroes ever  get corrected then 'lost and found' files might get moved to that dir.
[03:09] <lovre> ok
[03:09] <scienceboy> hi. i'm running kubuntu 7.xx. it has been working just fine, but all of a sudden i noticed that its been getting really unresponsive and slow. for example, i type something in pidgin and it doesn't show up for 45 seconds. does anyone know why that might be?
[03:09] <dr_willis> Or delete it if you want.. :) it will jsut get remade I imagine
[03:09] <lovre> dr_willis: ok, ty
[03:10] <lovre> scienceboy: do you have free space on your disk?
[03:10] <dr_willis>  its notihing to get worried about. :) unlike 'mysterious' files and dirs you see on windows
[03:10] <scienceboy> yeah, about 2 gigs left. the entire hard drive has about 13 gigs on it, and it was running rather well
[03:10] <lovre> dr_willis: cool
[03:10] <scienceboy> do you think i should delete some files?
[03:11] <lovre> scienceboy: should work fine as is
[03:11] <lovre> scienceboy: any drivers updated lately, graphics...?
[03:11] <scienceboy> nope
[03:11] <scienceboy> none whatsoever
[03:12] <nicodarious_> hey all
[03:12] <nicodarious_> anyone willing to talk about the suspend issues?
[03:12] <nicodarious_> or am i just SOL?
[03:13] <lovre> scienceboy: go to KSysGuard, and check the processes. Maybe some of them are using all the CPU
[03:13] <lovre> nicodarious_: what suspend issues
[03:13] <lovre> :D
[03:13] <scienceboy> lovre: thanks
[03:13] <lovre> scienceboy: np
[03:14] <nicodarious_> lovre: the part of resuming ends in a black screen (LCD backlight on) and no USB.  have keyboard though, but nothing works, as far as ctrl-alt-F1 or anything (just num lock, caps lock and scroll lock lights)
[03:15] <nicodarious_> lovre: hibernate works when resuming though.
[03:15] <nicodarious_> lovre: i have edited some files and will share them with you if you would like, if you might have an idea of what could be causing the problem
[03:16] <lovre> nicodarious_: tbh, i think i wont be able to help about that, sorry :S
[03:16] <nicodarious_> lovre: i have also uninstalled powernowd for cpufreqd and installed cpufreq-utils.
[03:16] <nicodarious_> ok, well thanks though.
[03:16] <lovre> nicodarious_: np, hang in here, some1 oughta help
[03:16] <nicodarious_> any other takers on this problem?
[03:17] <nicodarious_> lovre: heh.  been channel surfing for the past few hours with only problems in every room.  helped out where i could (as long as they weren't being trolls) but wasted more time fixing other peoples problems than working on my own lol
[03:18] <LeeJunFan> I guess it's my turn to ask for help instead of always just giving :p... I got a new HD, it's too big for my bios to handle (over 137G), and I've never tackled this problem before. I thought after the system was booted linux rather than the bios handled it, but even now booting from USB it says sda is only 137G. I have a feeling it's the sda stuff in ubuntu ignoring my boot params for cyl,head,sec
[03:18] <nicodarious_> LeeJunFan: it sounds like you have two options
[03:19] <LeeJunFan> better than none.
[03:19] <nicodarious_> LeeJunFan: one, partition off your hdd to be smaller than 137GB per partition or check to see if you can get a bios update that supports more than 317GB
[03:19] <DaskreecH> I Konkur
[03:19] <nicodarious_> LeeJunFan: what kind of computer is it that it's installed in?
[03:20] <nicodarious_> as far as is it IDE HDD or is it a SATA HDD?
[03:20] <nicodarious_> how old is the bios (check the date on the bios boot screen or in the bios setup), or how old is the computer?
[03:20] <LeeJunFan> nicodarious_: it's an IDE hd, in a laptop which offers no bios upgrade for that.
[03:21] <nicodarious_> what kind of laptop and what model #?
[03:21] <LeeJunFan> That's the thing, the laptop is only about 4 years old, so 3 years older than ATA-6, I guess they skimped.
[03:21] <LeeJunFan> nicodarious_: it's a sager, actually a rebranded clevo d470k
[03:21] <nicodarious_> quite possibly
[03:21] <nicodarious_> ok.  brb
[03:21] <nicodarious_> btw, i am on a Sager right now too ;)
[03:23] <LeeJunFan> nicodarious_: cool, thanks for your help. I have it partitioned right now with 30G NTFS, 10G /, so / is under the 137, but it's inside an extended that encompases space beyond what it can reach.
[03:24] <LeeJunFan> I partitioned the drive while it was hooked up via a usb/ide adapter, which of course got all the sizes right. copied all my stuff over with rsync, installed grub, etc. boot and it complains about access beyond reach.
[03:25] <nicodarious_> LeeJunFan: i'm looking thru my websites right now to see if i can find something for your hardware
[03:25] <nicodarious_> LeeJunFan: since it's a rebrand, there might be somewhere else that has the bios update, (possibly)
[03:26] <LeeJunFan> yeah, I've looked, unfortunately they do a good job hiding their bios updates.
[03:30] <nicodarious_> http://www.hypersonic-pc.com/aviator-notebooks/aviator-sr7-pictures.html   for right now, this is a link to what mine looks like, although i didn't buy it from hypersonic
[03:32] <nicodarious_> LeeJunFan: are you ready to recieve a file?
[03:32] <nicodarious_> i have found a bios update to 2.02
[03:32] <LeeJunFan> nicodarious_: probably not - behind a firewall.
[03:32] <nicodarious_> let's try at least.
[03:32] <nicodarious_> i'm behind a firewall also.
[03:33] <LeeJunFan> yeah, it told me connection actively refused, must have been yours.
[03:33] <nicodarious_> are you able to recieve that file?
[03:33] <LeeJunFan> shall I pm you my e-mail?
[03:33] <nicodarious_> must have been.. damned military bases...
[03:33] <nicodarious_> if you want.  it's only 369KB
[03:34] <nicodarious_> but i'll give you the site to see if you want to use it or not though.
[03:34] <LeeJunFan> actually I've already got 202.
[03:34] <nicodarious_> http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?s=0f121da325fffe263ec53b56bfffa6e5&t=167906
[03:34] <LeeJunFan> 204 even, but I think that one is funky on this system.
[03:34] <nicodarious_> go down towards the bottom and grab the files from the main post there.
[03:35] <anger_> Somebody have the Firefox updated to 3.0.3?
[03:36] <LeeJunFan> nicodarious_: thanks, I actually have all those. I'm pretty sure I had issues with 2.04 and am running 2.02 now. I'm going to check the zips for changelogs.
[03:36] <nicodarious_> ok, well i know the 2.04 is only an alpha release, so it may be best to stay with 2.02
[03:36] <LeeJunFan> I still think it's the libata-pata drivers that are screwing me, I should be able to tell the kernel how to treat the HD from grub with hda= or ide.core.chs= but it seems to ignore it.
[03:37] <nicodarious_> but really, i would change your partition table on your 250GB drive (or whatever the size is).  it may be the easiest route
[03:37] <nicodarious_> LeeJunFan: i don't know enough about that to tell.  sorry....  i'm actually here for my own problems too, lol
[03:38] <nicodarious_> LeeJunFan: my suspend won't come to resume on my system
[03:38] <LeeJunFan> nicodarious_: does it at least try? I've found I always have problems with framebuffer when it comes to suspend/resume and have to use vga=normal boot param.
[03:39] <nicodarious_> had it working last night, but for some reason, it's no longer working now that i cleaned up my Desktop lol.  go figure lol
[03:39] <nicodarious_> LeeJunFan: hmmm..  well, i have FB enabled.
[03:39] <nicodarious_> maybe i ought to try it with it disabled
[03:39] <LeeJunFan> I think there's a page detailing some of that.
[03:39] <LeeJunFan> !framebuffer
[03:40] <nicodarious_> it tries to come out of suspend, but i get a black screen (LCD backlight though) but also no USB.  also, i checked the logs and the wifi card (iwl4965) is hanging before i hit the shutdown key
[03:42] <nicodarious_> all this MIGHT be caused by the framebuffer holding up the video from coming up, but i'm not sure.  i know that when it did work for a while, the wifi had trouble reconnecting to the net (took about 30 secs to register and reconnect)
[03:42] <nicodarious_> i'll try out the fb problem first.
[03:43] <LeeJunFan> yeah, if not maybe having suspend remove the wireless module first.
[03:43] <nicodarious_> LeeJunFan: brb.  going to try rebooting without fb and then try suspend.
[03:44] <nicodarious_> LeeJunFan: yeah, that's already set within /etc/default/acpi-support file under MODULES to stop before suspend
[03:45] <nicodarious_> err STOP_SERVICES
[03:45] <nicodarious_> that's what i mean
[03:45] <nicodarious_> rb in a few minutes
[03:53] <Search4Lancer> help: something is sucking my processor and ksysguard is unable to tell me what (the numbers aren't adding up)
[03:53] <Allan_Rhae> hello all
[03:53] <DaskreecH> hi
[03:53] <Search4Lancer> also, constant read/writes on my external HD... guessing possibly related
[04:26]  * genii hands out coffees
[04:27] <o0Chris0o> :D
[04:28] <mr---t-> thanks I could really  use a coffee
[04:28] <genii> mr---t-: Anytime
[04:28] <Daisuke_Ido> mmm, coffee
[04:31] <genii> Daisuke_Ido: :)
[04:32] <Search4Lancer> smart people: need help
[04:32] <Search4Lancer> :-)
[04:33] <Search4Lancer> something is sucking my processor and ksysguard is unable to tell me what (the numbers aren't adding up)
[04:33] <Search4Lancer> also, constant read/writes on my external HD... guessing possibly related
[04:33] <Daisuke_Ido> top?
[04:35] <genii> Strigi?
[04:38] <supernix> hiya gang
[04:38] <supernix> wassup
[04:41] <Search4Lancer> top?
[04:47] <chalcedony> drip
[04:55] <nicodarious_> LeeJunFan: you still here?
[04:56] <LeeJunFan> yeah, still trying to find a fix :)
[04:56] <emmanuel> hola hola soy emmanuel
[04:56] <emmanuel> hi hi im emmanuel
[04:56] <emmanuel> from argentina
[04:57] <nicodarious_> yeah, same here.....  but i have narrowed it down quite a bit
[04:57] <emmanuel> i got a problem
[04:57] <nicodarious_> what is it, emmanuel?
[04:58] <emmanuel> why when I see a flv video in youtube, this looks slow? and pixeled too...
[04:58] <emmanuel> Im using ubuntu
[04:59] <LeeJunFan> well, I'm gonna dd my mbr/part tables on my new drive and try again. biab maybe.
[04:59] <nicodarious_> that's the video for you. crappy editing
[04:59] <kylose> hello everyone
[05:00] <emmanuel> but this happens with every video of youtube, in each browser that I use
[05:00] <nicodarious_> emmanuel: have you checked it with a video that you have made yourself yet?  or watched an avi file with another player?
[05:00] <nicodarious_> hello
[05:00] <kylose> i was wondering if anyone could help with a raid issue
[05:00] <emmanuel> well, avi file plays cool
[05:00] <nicodarious_> emmanuel: then it's the video then.  not your player
[05:01] <nicodarious_> kylose: what issue?
[05:01] <kylose> trying to create a raid 5 array using mdadm, but i keep getting "mdadm: error opening /dev/md0: no such device or address"
[05:01] <emmanuel> but plays frame per frame, you know
[05:01] <nicodarious_> emmanuel: there's nothing that we can do to fix someone's compression of a video
[05:01] <kylose> i tried adding --auto=yes to the end of of mdadm
[05:01] <nicodarious_> ohhhh...
[05:01] <emmanuel> not pixeled, sorry, framed
[05:01] <kylose> no go
[05:01] <nicodarious_> emmanuel: just a sec.
[05:02] <emmanuel> ok thanks
[05:02] <nicodarious_> kylose: ok, now have you set up the partitioning table and set it correctly with a uuid and then inserted it into /etc/fstab correctly?
[05:03] <nicodarious_> emmanuel: the file you are trying to watch is a flash video right?
[05:03] <kylose> no, none of the tutorials i've been able to to understand have mentioned that
[05:03] <emmanuel> its of video thats embebed in youtube
[05:04] <nicodarious_> emmanuel: i would suggest going to your synaptic manager and downloading swf player or something.
[05:04] <emmanuel> Im watching it directly from youtube
[05:04] <emmanuel> I got the swf player installer and running
[05:05] <emmanuel> its installed and running, sorry
[05:05] <nicodarious_> kylose: ok then, brb.  i think i have a website about setting up a raid in Ubuntu.
[05:05] <kylose> much appreciated
[05:05] <nicodarious_> emmanuel: have you installed Flashplayer also from synaptic?
[05:05] <emmanuel> thats right
[05:05] <emmanuel> all from synaptic
[05:06] <nicodarious_> kylose: you're suing 8.04, right?
[05:06] <kylose> yessir
[05:06] <nicodarious_> kk.  brb.
[05:06] <kylose> all drived have ext3 on them using gparted
[05:06] <kylose> *drives
[05:06] <nicodarious_> ok, emmanueli would now suggest to uninstall swf OR flashplayer.
[05:06] <nicodarious_> kylose: that's your first no no
[05:07] <emmanuel> ok, then?
[05:07] <kylose> mm?
[05:07] <nicodarious_> kylose: delete ALL partitions on the drives
[05:07] <nicodarious_> kylose: do not partition the drives.  the raid setup will partition them for you in it's own special way
[05:07] <emmanuel> and then? Do I have to install again?
[05:08] <kylose> nic: all partitions are now deleted
[05:09] <nicodarious_> when i set mine up, my raid 0, i used lvm characteristics on the drives.
[05:10] <nicodarious_> i'm trying to find that lvm site now, so to hand it down to you and so i don't get anything wrong
[05:11] <nicodarious_> darn slow internet.....
[05:11] <kylose> hehe
[05:11] <kylose> no worries
[05:11] <kylose> spent all day learning about ubuntu
[05:11] <nicodarious_> http://unthought.net/Software-RAID.HOWTO/Software-RAID.HOWTO-11.html
[05:11] <nicodarious_> that's one
[05:11] <kylose> set up my first samba share
[05:12] <nicodarious_> http://www.gagme.com/greg/linux/raid-lvm.php#raid
[05:12] <kylose> wow this tutorial is way better than anything i've seen so far
[05:12] <nicodarious_> :D
[05:12] <kylose> thanks
[05:12] <nicodarious_> hey, no prob!
[05:13] <nicodarious_> emmanuel: ok, back to your prob.
[05:14] <nicodarious_> emmanuel: kylose's problem was a pretty easy fix. so i dealt with it quick.  yours on the other hand is a little more in depth i think
[05:14] <emmanuel> ok tellme
[05:14] <nicodarious_> emmanuel: as far as your player goes, i think there MIGHT be a conflict of interest between the two players.
[05:14] <nicodarious_> i would suggest getting rid of one.
[05:14] <emmanuel> ah, ok
[05:15] <emmanuel> so I have to uninstall one of them?
[05:15] <nicodarious_> also, see if you can get the latest player and install that thru Firefox or something. a great place that i go to is the nvidia website since they like pretty flash stuff on their website.
[05:16] <nicodarious_> i would suggest uninstalling all flash players for now.
[05:16] <nicodarious_> then installing one, or installing one thru firefox by visiting a flash-made site, like nvidia.com
[05:16] <emmanuel> ok, I m gonna try it!
[05:17] <nicodarious_> that's the only thing i can think of myself....  right now i'm trying to deal with my own problematic hardware and suspend mode system...  so sorry if i can't be of TOO much help lol
[05:17] <emmanuel> thanks body, this support its awesome!
[05:17] <nicodarious_> emmanuel: good luck
[05:17] <emmanuel> and apologize my english!
[05:18] <nicodarious_> emmanuel: no problem.  you're spanish, right?
[05:18] <nicodarious_> emmanuel: i deal with a lot of spanish in my job, so i know how to decipher what is being said
[05:18] <nicodarious_> i just can't speak it lol
[05:20] <emmanuel> Im from argentina
[05:20] <emmanuel> De donde eres tu nico?
[05:27] <genii> Apparently not
[05:30] <mr---t-> where are you he said
[05:47] <mcine> oi alguem ai?
[05:47] <genii> !br
[05:48] <kylose> anyone able to help a frustrated user out with his poor raid array?
[05:49] <mcine> helooo!
[05:49] <trey> hey.
[05:49] <mcine> I AM from brazil
[05:49] <trey> i'm not. :P
[05:50] <trey> i'm from the U.S.
[05:50] <mcine> hei!!
[05:50] <o0Chris0o> !br
[05:50] <mcine> brasileiro sim e dai
[05:51] <genii> mcine: If you have a problem with Kubuntu, ask your question here in English or in #ubuntu-br channel en espanol
[05:51] <trey> i have a question.
[05:52] <mcine> you is gay?
[05:52] <trey> i just installed hardy heron since my friend told me that i'd like it.
[05:52] <genii> mcine: Techinical support questions only
[05:52] <trey> and it doesn't recognize that i have a video card.
[05:52] <mcine> oh yes, sorry
[05:53] <mcine> you is admin, genii?
[05:53] <o0Chris0o> do you know what video card you have installed?
[05:53] <trey> is it okay to ask what i should do to fix that issue?
[05:53] <genii> trey: Is it a Unichrome video card?
[05:53] <trey> i'll be honest and say that i'm not tech smart.
[05:53] <trey> i could probably figure it out with sometime.
[05:54] <trey> just curious if this was something that's normal?
[05:54] <genii> mcine: No, but there are many around who would boot you for being crude in here
[05:54] <genii> trey: Not normal. Usually if it can't decide the card, goes with safe option like vesa
[05:54] <kylose> would anyone be willing to help me with a raid setup question?
[05:54] <mcine> help in pt br pless!!
[05:55] <genii> trey: However some cards like ATI or intel i810 choke with vesa as the driver
[05:55] <mcine> please!
[05:55] <genii> mcine:    /j #ubuntu-br
[05:55] <trey> genii: would this problem cause it to only allow me to pick one screen resolution?
[05:55] <mcine> i love genii
[05:55] <trey> i can only chose 800x600 or somehting like that.
[05:56] <mcine> hehehe
[05:56] <genii> trey: With ATI, mostly yes. With i810 it just chokes completely and stays black
[05:56] <trey> is there an easy way to fix it?
[05:56] <trey> lol.
[05:56] <trey> sorry if i'm asking the impossible.
[05:57] <genii> trey: What says result of command in Konsole of:  lspci | grep VGA            ?
[05:57] <mcine> my sound is down
[05:57] <mcine> helpe me
[05:57] <mcine> help me
[05:57] <o0Chris0o> mcine
[05:57] <genii> mcine: What says result of command in Konsole of:  lspci | grep Audio            ?
[05:57] <mcine> ha
[05:58] <trey> geni: 0000:00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 PF/PRO AGP 4x TMDS
[05:58] <genii> trey: OK. So ATI, older one
[05:58] <trey> yeah.
[05:58] <kylose> i'm just going to throw this out there but i'm having issues creating a raid 5 array, after attempting to use the mdadm command, i keep getting "mdadm: error opening /dev/md0: No such device or address" and have already tried the common workaround of adding -auto=md to the end of the command
[05:58] <trey> very old. :(
[05:58] <mcine> wait genii
[05:59] <trey> my computer is a PPC that I put hardy heron on.
[05:59] <trey> other than the screen resolution issue i love the OS.
[06:00] <mcine> 00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[06:00] <genii> trey: what says result of: lspci -nn | grep VGA        ?
[06:00] <mcine> yes
[06:00] <genii> mcine: You need to follow the steps then for an intel HDA
[06:01] <genii> !intelHDA | mcine
[06:01] <genii> mcine: Go to the link from ubottu and follow instructions
[06:01] <mcine> thank you
[06:01] <trey> genii: 0000:00:10.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 PF/PRO AGP 4x TMDS [1002:5046]
[06:01] <genii> mcine: Also do not private message me, I only assist in public channels, this is my policy
[06:02] <genii> trey: OK, I'm googling for the vendor:product, one minute
[06:02] <trey> thanks.
[06:06] <genii> trey: Not much on it relating to ubuntu, unfortunately :( The xorg.conf has changed and not easy now to find the driver it's using. Can you pastebin result of: lsmod            and I'll scan it for ati or vesa or so on to see what it is currently on
[06:07] <genii> trey: You can install package pastebinit   and then do like:      lsmod | pastebinit
[06:08] <trey> genii: you want everything that pop'd up?
[06:08] <genii> trey: Yes, unless you can spot immediately in there which driver it's on and just tell me
[06:08] <trey> Module                  Size  Used by
[06:08] <trey> usblp                  16544  0
[06:08] <trey> r128                   46340  2
[06:08] <trey> drm                    93624  3 r128
[06:08] <trey> ipv6                  310568  8
[06:09] <genii> Ah, r128 then
[06:09] <o0Chris0o> so much for pastebinit ;D
[06:09] <byteme_> ok, I ahve a DUMB Q?
[06:09] <o0Chris0o> shoot
[06:09] <trey> like i said. i'm not that tech smart.
[06:09] <trey> :P
[06:09] <genii> trey: No worries
[06:10] <trey> i appreciate your help.
[06:10] <trey> my friend doesn't seem to realize that i'm not a computer major like he is. lol
[06:10] <byteme_> what is the executable file in Linux?
[06:10] <genii> trey: For future use, do now:    sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install pastebinit                then we can just do like: <some command> | pastebinit      for simplicity
[06:11] <genii> (this may take a minute or so)
[06:12] <trey> k.
[06:12] <trey> so what's the command to pastebinit?
[06:12] <trey> i did the first part.
[06:13] <trey> but what do put in here to submit it?
[06:13] <genii> trey: If you wanted to paste results of : lsmod    for instance, then:   lsmod | pastebinit
[06:13] <trey> okay. :D
[06:13] <trey> that would be easier.
[06:13] <genii> Yes, exactly
[06:14] <trey> learn something new every day.
[06:14] <genii> Rather than copy/paste from in Konsole, etc etc
[06:14] <trey> yeah, so what's the next step?
[06:14] <genii> trey: It should have told you a web address, tell us what thst is, then we go there to see the result and examine it
[06:15] <genii> trey: This prevents flooding of the channels here
[06:15] <trey> k. i'm assuming you're talking about the command i just did. let me look.
[06:17] <genii> Something like: http://pastebin.com/f696e47f2   under where you typed the command
[06:17] <byteme_> I unpacked 'Second Life' game in a folder and am trying to run the game.
[06:17] <genii> (my own lsmod result)
[06:17] <byteme_> how do I know what the file I need is?
[06:19] <genii> byteme_: Open folder, doubleclick on file called:  secondlife
[06:20] <sloik> Greetings, can anybody tell me why my suspend to ram option isn't appearing in the logout menu or KPowersave?
[06:20] <byteme_> it does nothing
[06:20] <byteme_> other than open up in Kate
[06:20] <trey> genii: http://pastebin.com/f152a239
[06:21] <trey> is that what you were wanting?
[06:21] <sloik> Be right back...
[06:21] <genii> byteme_: Try instead then:   alt-f2      and type in complete path and name
[06:22] <genii> trey: Yup
[06:22] <paulandsara> can someone help me im new to ubuntu
[06:22] <paulandsara> ty so much
[06:22] <genii> trey: Although by now we know it uses the r128 driver :) We know now your pastebinit works though
[06:23] <trey> haha. yeah we do.
[06:23] <o0Chris0o> paulandsara: just state your problem
[06:23] <paulandsara> has anyone used audicity or know od another recording program that i could use
[06:23] <o0Chris0o> !k3b
[06:23] <trey> genii: what would i need to do now?
[06:23] <byteme_> path and name of what? Thats what I'm trying to find out
[06:24] <paulandsara> well i can seem to get the sound to work on a playback when im trying to listen/record a track
[06:24] <o0Chris0o> nvm thats not what you need paulandsara
[06:24] <paulandsara> i have went to prefrences and set up my sound card
[06:24] <o0Chris0o> have you tried amorak?
[06:24] <paulandsara> i have not
[06:25] <paulandsara> can i get that thru the add apps
[06:25] <o0Chris0o> you should already have it in kubuntu
[06:25] <genii> byteme_: The file called secondlife. So if you have it in a folder called Bleh    on your desktop and your username is Foo then it is:  /home/Foo/Desktop/Bleh/secondlife
[06:25] <byteme_> Amarok rocks
[06:25] <paulandsara> i have ubuntu are they the same(im sorry really new)
[06:25] <o0Chris0o> !amarok | paulandsara
[06:25] <byteme_> works great with the MP3 players
[06:25] <o0Chris0o> heh that needs to be updated
[06:26] <paulandsara> thats not exactly what im looking for.....im looking for something i can record mp3 for my band
[06:26] <genii> trey: We need to decide if r128 driver is best or another like stock one called "ati" or possibly to install later "fglrx" proprietary driver. Then to edit the xorg.conf file to reflect this change
[06:27] <genii> trey: However I'm finding little in the way of info regarding this
[06:27] <trey> genii: i'm sure you'd know better than i would. i'm a n00b. :P
[06:28] <byteme_> genii: sorry for my ignorance, but I cant find a 'SecondLife' file in the whole SecondLife folder other than the one that only opens up in Kate
[06:28] <byteme_> I d/led it twice
[06:28] <sloik> Has anybody gotten Suspend-To-Ram working on a Kubuntu 8.04 Desktop?
[06:29] <chull> chull@vir:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
[06:29] <chull> cat: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory
[06:29] <chull> chull@vir:~$
[06:29] <chull> sloik, there are many mysteries in 8.04
[06:29] <byteme_> just because I unpacked it from a tar.bz2 file, does that mean it's installed? genii
[06:29] <sloik> chull: Does that mean I can't?
[06:30] <sloik> chull: Or that it's difficult?
[06:30] <chull> that means i'm to ignorant to know
[06:30] <sloik> Ah.
[06:30] <chull> sorry
[06:30] <byteme_> genii: sorry, I know your trying to help someone else
[06:30] <sloik> No prob, I'm just as ignorant as you are :P
[06:30] <chull> and mine can't see it's soundcard .. onboard sound/
[06:31] <trey> byteme: he's probably realized i'm a lost cause by now. no worries. ;)
[06:31] <byteme_> lol, I'm starting to think that for myself
[06:32] <byteme_> most of these threads on the net are NOT for newbies
[06:32] <trey> i hear you on that one.
[06:32] <trey> i tried looking up something to help me out and i got a lot of crap that made no sense.
[06:32] <chull> there are all kinds of things out there..
[06:32] <trey> haha.
[06:32] <chull> trey, what were you trying to find?
[06:33] <byteme_> ha, yeah same here. I even get told to give commands that 'my' system says 'bad command or file name'
[06:34] <trey> i'm having screen resolution issues. mainly that it's only giving one option (800x600 i think) and that's driving me crazy since half the screen is missing sometimes.
[06:34] <byteme_> and thats at the begining, so where the heck do you go from there?   lol
[06:34] <trey> i think it has something to do with my video card.
[06:34] <chull> byteme_, we are all guessing to a point because your system and mine are probably different to start with
[06:34] <genii> byteme_: Usually 1 of 3 things when you d/l and unpack:  1- it's binaries are there ready to run in which case instructions I gave work    2 - You need to run some installer script usually by way like:  sh ./thefilename      3- It's in source code and you need to go an entirely different and messy route.  Probably 2 since 1 seems not
[06:35] <genii> trey: I'm still working on it, gimme some time
[06:35] <trey> k. i'm in no hurry. sleep isn't important. :)
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 cat: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory
 chull@vir:~$
[06:35] <byteme_> wow
[06:35] <byteme_> ok
[06:36] <byteme_> so in other words delete it right?
[06:36] <byteme_> lol, kidding
[06:36] <trey> i about chucked my computer out the window if that gives you any good ideas. ;)
[06:37] <genii> byteme_: You might want to look at the second life linux forum for help also
[06:37] <byteme_> lol
[06:37] <trey> i think i have less hair too. :D
[06:37] <byteme_> cool, thanks
[06:38] <chull> can anyone help with finding sound cards?
[06:38] <byteme_> average lifespan of a computer programer is 50
[06:38] <tuxwulf> I am counting down to 8.10
[06:38] <genii> trey: Hmm. Research indicates r128 is indeed best driver for your card and supports other resolutions than 600x800     I'm thinking now it may not know what your monitor can do
[06:38] <byteme_> and they know what they are doing
[06:38] <chull> lol byteme_ my husband had a stroke, but he's still alive
[06:39] <trey> genii: i've had other resolutions so i'd assume it can do them again.
[06:39] <chull> genii, does it have the right setting in the bios setup?
[06:39] <chull> my husband's monitor was hard to set it for
[06:39] <byteme_> There is just something about PC's that make the blood pressure sky-rocket
[06:39] <byteme_> hehe
[06:41] <genii> trey: Will your monitor do 1024x768 at 60 or 70 ?
[06:41] <trey> i think that's what i had it at when i was running my Mac OS.
[06:42] <trey> something tells me my blood pressure is about to go up. lol
[06:44]  * trey listens to the crickets outside his window
[06:44] <genii> trey: OK. Please do:   cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit                      and then:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup              then I will make another entry regarding your monitor settings in there. Then I will instruct you further on how to apply these changes
[06:45] <trey> http://pastebin.com/f1bf102e6
[06:45] <genii> OK, back shortly
[06:46] <trey> kk, i need some water anyways.
[06:46] <genii> trey: Actually, do know exact make/model of monitor? Then I can exactly define it's refresh settings
[06:47] <genii> (although even without this info I can choose some safe numbers)
[06:49] <trey> umm, the stuff on the back of the monitor says it's a ProView, product number: PRO-720, Model: 772
[06:49] <trey> not sure if that helps.
[06:50] <trey> it's pretty old since my mom destroyed my newer one. :(
[06:51] <trey> brb.
[06:54] <trey> and back..
[06:59]  * o0Chris0o tries to remember the app he used to autmaticly find ranges for monitor
[06:59] <karl_s> google.com?
[07:01] <genii> trey: OK. So:   alt-f2   and then: kdesu kate                           then copy and paste from bottome window (without line numbers in it) of: http://pastebin.com/m1c6a6da         into Kate. Then save it as filename of:  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:01]  * o0Chris0o dispises lurkers arrgh!
[07:01] <genii> o0Chris0o: There used to be read-edid and get-edid and parse-edid  but they no longer work properly
[07:02] <o0Chris0o> maybe that was it
[07:02] <genii> trey: After you do this part let me know
[07:03] <trey> genii: it doesn't recognize kdesu kate.
[07:03]  * genii blinks
[07:03] <trey> Could not open location 'file:///home/trey/kdesu%20kate'
[07:05]  * trey feels screwed
[07:05] <genii> trey: It prompted for your password before that or no?
[07:05] <trey> no it didn't.
[07:05] <genii> Hm
[07:06] <trey> The program 'kdesu' can be found in the following packages:
[07:06] <trey>  * kdesudo
[07:06] <trey>  * kdebase-bin
[07:06] <trey> Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
[07:06] <trey> bash: kdesu: command not found
[07:07] <administrator> HI
[07:07] <genii> trey: Are you sure you are actually on KDE ?
[07:07] <trey> that's what comes up if i put it in a terminal.
[07:07] <trey> do i seem sure about anything?
[07:07] <trey> lol.
[07:08] <genii> trey: Hah. No matter. I will give the desktop-independent version then
[07:08] <trey> k.
[07:10] <administrator> use this to check the compiz                      compiz-check
[07:11] <genii> trey: In commandline:   sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf     then:   sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf         and copy the text in bottom window of the pastebin site http://pastebin.com/m1c6a6da   then paste it into the commandline window with right-clck ...paste.  Then keys:  ctrl-x    then: Y to confirm saving. Then just Enter key to confirm the filename.
[07:12] <genii> trey: When this is done let me know
[07:15] <genii> trey: Also write down these emergency recovery instructions in case of massive failure afterwards:    Boot to Recovery Kernel. issue command:   cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf;telinit 2
[07:17] <genii> trey: This is only for insurance purposes in case this doesn't work
[07:17] <trey> k.
[07:17] <trey> bash: IdentifierDefault Layout: command not found
[07:17] <trey> trey@trey-desktop:~$ Screen"Default Screen"
[07:17] <trey> bash: ScreenDefault Screen: command not found
[07:17] <trey> trey@trey-desktop:~$ EndSection
[07:17] <trey> that doesn't look right to me.
[07:18] <trey> it's the last four lines of the stuff i copy and pasted.
[07:18] <genii> trey: You need to paste that stuff into the window which has the program called "nano" open
[07:18] <genii> Not into the terminal just sitting at a prompt
[07:19] <administrator> geni how do we use the wine feature
[07:19] <administrator> ?
[07:20] <genii> trey: The nano window will have stuff at bottom like: ^G Get Help ^C Cancel            and so on
[07:20] <karl_s> administrator, you know you shouldn't log on IRC using super user privileges?
[07:21] <genii> administrator: Carefully. But anyhow: install it first by your package manager. Then the file manager should want to use it automatically to open up Windows .exe files
[07:22] <genii> administrator: More help in the channel #winehq
[07:22] <genii> trey: Success/failure/something else entirely yet?
[07:23] <trey> my 2:22am brain is processing.
[07:23] <genii> trey: OK :)
[07:25] <administrator> i have a question
[07:25] <administrator> can anyone solve it
[07:25] <bittin> maybe
[07:25] <administrator> tks
[07:25] <administrator> i hav a prob in  my host name
[07:26] <administrator> like  "unable to resolve host name"
[07:26] <genii> trey: The open nano screen should look like this: http://i34.tinypic.com/fp9eeg.png
[07:27] <trey> genii: i just got that up before your typed that. ;)
[07:27] <genii> Good
[07:27] <trey> reading back over to see what i need to do with it.
[07:28] <trey> genii: i did what you said.
[07:29] <trey> my computer didn't blow up so i take that as a good sign. :)
[07:29] <genii> trey: OK. So you successfully pasted the website contents into nano and saved it?
[07:29] <trey> yes.
[07:30] <genii> trey: So I can double-double check:      cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[07:30] <trey> http://pastebin.com/f168c9f06
[07:30]  * trey crosses fingers
[07:30] <genii> Reading
[07:30] <genii> trey: Looks good
[07:31]  * trey breaths a sigh of relief
[07:31] <trey> now what?
[07:32] <genii> trey: So now for changes to take effect, the X system must have a restart. So logoff and when at login screen do: ctrl-alt-backspace                the login screen should reload the graphic system
[07:33]  * trey writes this down
[07:33] <genii> trey: If it fails utterly and drops you to console then do: sudo reboot          and follow the emergency instructions I gave earlier to revert it all.     If login scren reloads fine, come back here
[07:33] <genii> (after logging in)
[07:33] <swaty> is anny 1 know how to connect me at undernet server pelase
[07:33] <genii> ;)
[07:34] <swaty> is anny 1 know how to connect me at undernet server please
[07:34] <genii> swaty: use the /server command
[07:34] <trey> k. brb.
[07:34] <genii> eg: /server some.server.name
[07:34] <swaty> but the serevrs i know wont work pff
[07:35] <swaty> is there anny comand to get a serverlist?
[07:35] <genii> swaty: Pick one from the list given here: http://www.undernet.org/servers.php
[07:40]  * genii sips his coffee
[07:43] <genii> Gah. 2:42AM and work starts at 8
[07:43] <SkEmO> nite! :)
[07:43] <swaty> tx genii it works
[07:43] <genii> swaty: Glad to help
[07:44] <genii> I'm starting to worry about trey now
[07:57] <genii>  !ping
[07:57] <genii> hmm
[07:58] <genii> I'll wait another 10 minutes
[07:58] <o0Chris0o> !poo
[07:58] <o0Chris0o> !foo
[07:58] <genii> !bar
[08:08] <genii> ZZZZZZZzzzz........
[08:08]  * genii jolts awake
[08:24] <pshm> join #ubuntu
[08:24] <pshm> heh
[08:24] <pshm> lol
[08:39] <mikef> :)
[08:39] <mikef> hi i need some help please
[08:40] <mikef> I can't get my dvds to play :\
[08:46] <emilsedgh> !dvd | mikef
[09:28] <msshams> ﻿difference of kubuntu and ubuntu is only in environment?
[09:29] <joselindo> kubuntu can run even on small or low pc specs
[09:29] <joselindo> i agree
[09:31] <msshams> kubuntu has any replacement for openoffice?
[09:32] <joselindo> what do you mean? toher than open office?
[09:33] <joselindo> i mean other than openoffice?
[09:35] <thefish> msshams: koffice suite - imho better that ooo :)
[09:37] <joselindo> have you tried it? i never tried it before?
[09:37] <thefish> if you mean koffice, yes i use it fairly often
[09:38] <Guest74883> hi, do you know, why i cant open fish:// protocol in kde now, and i was able to do it before update to 8.04?
[09:38] <thefish> Guest74883: try just ssh://
[09:38] <joselindo> yes, right now im trying to experiment on my kubuntu, newbie
[09:38] <Guest74883> thefish, same problem
[09:39] <thefish> Guest74883: using dolphin?
[09:39] <Guest74883> quanta this time
[09:39] <Guest74883> http://allegro.pl/item437635836_przejsciowka_hdd_adapter_dysku_z_2_5_na_3_5.html
[09:39] <Guest74883> ups
[09:39] <joselindo> try it in adept manager
[09:39] <Guest74883> worng paste
[09:39] <thefish> Guest74883: fish:// works fine here :)
[09:39] <thefish> not sure about quanta
[09:39] <Guest74883> thefish and i have problem here
[09:40] <thefish> ah Guest74883, can i make a suggestion?
[09:40] <Guest74883> thefish, sure
[09:40] <thefish> its not exactly what you are asking, but it will solve your problem, and can be very useful for non fish:// aware apps
[09:40] <thefish> get hold of sshfs
[09:40] <thefish> its a fuse filesystem for ssh
[09:40] <thefish> 3 steps to use it:
[09:40] <thefish> sudo apt-get install sshfs
[09:41] <thefish> sudo adduser Guest74883 fuse (or whatever your kubu username is)
[09:41] <thefish> log out, log in
[09:41] <thefish> mkdir -p ~/fusemounts/webserver
[09:41] <thefish> sshfs ip.of.bo.x ~/fusemounts/webserver
[09:42] <thefish> profit
[09:42] <Guest74883> thefish what about storing name and pass?
[09:42] <Guest74883> i used kwallet before
[09:42] <thefish> Guest74883: this is "below" kde and doesnt really involve it, so i dont think you could use kwallett
[09:43] <thefish> you could use public key auth, and then use something like kdessh to store the passphrase in wallet though
[09:43] <thefish> but with sshfs, the remote files look exactly the same as local ones, its mounted as a local filesystem
[09:43] <Guest74883> thefish, so it is nearly useless for me, it would be really painfull to type 20 times a day, long, 14 chars passwords
[09:43] <thefish> so you can edit stuff in place etc
[09:44] <thefish> Guest74883: then read what I said about certificate logins
[09:45] <thefish> if you even just use ssh-agent, you put one passphrase in to unlock your private key, and then log in without passwords for as long as its cached
[09:45] <thefish> same idea as kdewallet
[09:45] <Guest74883> thefish, thanks, that is one way, but i think i have problem with KIOslave
[09:45] <thefish> just not as dependant on kde
[09:46] <thefish> do it that way, and you can only use apps that implement the fish kioslave
[09:50] <Guest74883> by the way, how can i install kde3?
[09:51] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:59] <msshams> thefish: has koffice problem with right to left languages?
[10:00] <thefish> no idea msshams, sorry
[10:01] <msshams> thefish: i used to gnome for 4 years
[10:01] <msshams> thefish: please tell me that can i move to kde without any problem?
[10:01] <thefish> nothing to be ashamed of :)
[10:02] <andypls1> hello i have a question with thunderbird
[10:02] <msshams> thefish: e.g. can i find all gnome applications in kde?
[10:02] <thefish> andypls1: dont ask if you can ask
[10:02] <thefish> msshams: yes gnome apps will still work in kde
[10:02] <andypls1> well... i have created to accounts
[10:02] <andypls1> one for my A email, and one for my B email
[10:03] <andypls1> however, on the leftside of thunderbird, i can only see the options for my A email, which is the default. i can't see anything for my B email
[10:03] <andypls1> :(
[10:03] <thefish> msshams: beware though, some gtk apps look very ugly in kde
[10:03] <andypls1> so, i can see if i have new emails for B on "get email"
[10:03] <andypls1> but i can't click in inbox, as i do with the A email
[10:03] <andypls1> what should i do?
[10:04] <andypls1> i want B to be displayed right below A
[10:04] <thefish> andypls1: sorry not sure, but when i used tb i had 4 accounts working like you say, and it was fine
[10:04] <thefish> andypls1: maybe you are using the "Global Inbox"?
[10:04] <andypls1> yes i am
[10:04] <sorush20> hi, I;m always getting error in my iso writing
[10:04] <sorush20> why?:
[10:05] <sorush20> 4 speed cdrw
[10:05] <thefish> andypls1: thats why it all gets delivered to 1 inbox, the "Global Inbox"
[10:05] <sorush20> iso sumcheck okay but cd sumcheck bad
[10:05] <andypls1> how do i change that?
[10:06] <andypls1> A problably uses something like "global" inbox
[10:06] <andypls1> sorry local i mean
[10:06] <andypls1> B is global
[10:06] <thefish> andypls1: cant remember exactly, but check under the account properties, and make sure *neither* of them use this - this will give you 2 inboxes like you want
[10:07] <mario> ciao
[10:08] <mario> mi sapete dire pkè konqueror si chiude appena carica la pagina?
[10:08] <andypls1> thanks i will remove it and create it again
[10:09] <hateball> !it | mario
[10:12] <mario> sorry
[10:12] <mario> it's first time for me here
[10:16] <milly_rst> Hi
[10:17] <milly_rst> Okay GTG, my mom wants me to go offline
[10:18] <Skrot> I've got a crontab script that's running as a local user, the command I entered using crontab -e works fine if I use it in my shell, but when crontab runs it the desired result is not applied. Any ideas?
[10:24] <thefish> Skrot: its possible you are assuming some things about the env variables and paths?
[10:26] <Skrot> don't think so
[10:26] <Skrot> all paths are absolute and I use no env vars
[10:29] <Skrot> it seems to work if I use bash /path/to/my/script.sh >> /path/to/some.log instead of just bash /path/to/my/script.sh
[10:31] <smux> Hi, I upgraded to intrepid and now every time I plug an external hard drive I can't write on this one. Any idea ?
[10:31] <favro> !intrepid | smux
[10:46] <x3on> hey, how can Im using ubuntu with gnome desktop - i cant use kopete webcam because its using kde4 instead of kde3 - is there a way i can roll it back to kde3?
[10:47] <eagles0513875> !ubuntu | x3on
[10:47] <eagles0513875> x3on: try #ubuntu this is for kde and kubuntu support
[11:01] <blunder> hey
[11:01] <blunder> what is the default sound system in 8.04.1?
[11:01] <blunder> arts??
[11:02] <mikef> ty btw emilsedgh
[11:03] <mikef> <3 <3 :DD
[11:03] <aar> Hi, guarddog is not displaying the tick boxes next to each of the programs, so I can't specify what to allow / disallow. I suspect it's a permissions issue (i.e. chmod or chown problem). Any clues on what file / directory I should tweak?
[11:03] <aar> (Using Kubuntu Hardy 8.04)
[11:05] <pauljc> hello. Has anyone got the  Creative Technology, Ltd WebCam Live! Ultra [041e:403c] to work under Ubuntu 8.0.41?
[11:06] <dr_willis> aar it may be you need to run the guarddog tool with root permissions
[11:06] <aar> dr_willis, I have tred both as root and as a regular user
[11:07] <dr_willis> You may want to check to see if theres a guarddog wiki, or forum thread or 2 , there may be some known issues with it. I never use the tool.
[11:07] <aar> dr_willis, I am using wireless (eth1). I am trying firestarter now and it says my eth1 device is not ready. I'm not sure whether the errors are related.
[11:07] <dr_willis> I rarely use any firewall tools under linux
[11:07] <pauljc> ok..then sigh..
[11:21] <dr_willis> wow - pauljc has no patience at all it seems
[11:22] <eagles0513875> lol
[11:22] <eagles0513875> hey doc
[11:22] <dr_willis> Howdies.
[11:22] <dr_willis> Just for the record.. seems with my webcams.. either they work right out of the box.. or they are totally unsupported.
[11:22] <dr_willis> :)
[11:45] <eagles0513875> i have a question
[11:46] <eagles0513875> when using tar to tar the entire system except for /proc and /tmp does tar include /etc/group etc/passwd and /etc/shadow in the tar
[11:48] <jussi01> !nickspam > Doener
[11:50] <Doener> ö)
[11:50] <eagles0513875> jussi01: any idea bout my question
[11:54] <salvatore_> ragazzi dove trovo il file di configurazione di compiz?
[11:56] <Dillizar> hello
[11:56] <eagles0513875> hi
[11:56] <eagles0513875> when using tar to tar the entire system except for /proc and /tmp does tar include /etc/group etc/passwd and /etc/shadow in the tar
[11:57] <Dillizar> my friend said that every linux has a problem with the flash, is it true or just me and my friend has this porblem
[12:01] <Dillizar> is it?
[12:02] <eagles0513875> kubuntu doesnt have a problem
[12:02] <eagles0513875> im watching a flash clip as we speak
[12:02] <eagles0513875> granted it is a lil jittery
[12:03] <Dillizar> like only 5 or 10 frames
[12:03] <eagles0513875> not exactly how many fps
[12:04] <Dillizar> but its sucking your pc
[12:04] <Dillizar> and if it is a laptop
[12:04] <Dillizar> its geting got
[12:05] <Dillizar> *hot
[12:06] <amerigo> hello
[12:06] <amerigo> it's possible to offer assistence from kubuntu to a remote xp?
[12:08] <eagles0513875> i have done it the other way around amerigo most likely they have to send u an invite
[12:09] <downhillgames> I'm looking for simple, to-the-point, human-readable instructions on how to create a package that contains all my little tweaks (some desktop themes, etc., nothing code-related), and also, upon installing it, remove a boatload of packages and install others. Where can I find (human-readable) documentation to do this?
[12:11] <amerigo> eagles0513875: yes eagle...
[12:12] <amerigo> but when it send me an invite
[12:12] <amerigo> is possible to check it remotely
[12:12] <eagles0513875> i dont get what u mean
[12:12] <amerigo> from kubuntu i said
[12:12] <eagles0513875> u want help on kubuntu from a remote machine
[12:12] <eagles0513875> which has xp
[12:13] <amerigo> i want to help from kunbutnu a Xp machine
[12:15] <jussi01> !uck | downhillgames
[12:16] <amerigo> ok trying another way...
[12:16] <amerigo> there is a guide to do that?
[12:16] <downhillgames> I don't want to create a liveCD. I want to make 1 singular package with some "stuff" I normally have to manually untar/install/whatever.
[12:16] <amerigo> ! remote assistence
[12:17] <amerigo> ! remote
[12:17] <amerigo> ! invite
[12:17] <amerigo> ! assistance
[12:17] <amerigo> ! assistence
[12:17] <amerigo> uff
[12:17] <jussi01> !botabuse
[12:17] <downhillgames> jussi01, aside from that not answering my question, http://uck.sourceforge.net/ is a broken link.
[12:17] <joseiana> ay algun español
[12:18] <amerigo> eagles0513875: some tips?
[12:18] <downhillgames> just thought you might like to know.
[12:18] <jussi01> !es | joseiana
[12:18] <jussi01> downhillgames: thanks, Ill get that fixed
[12:18] <downhillgames> np.
[12:19] <jussi01> downhillgames: it does kind of answer your question, because you can create a live cd with all your bits an peices then install it when you need.
[12:20] <downhillgames> that still does not answer my question. I want to create a package that installs some files, installs some packages and removes a lot of extras. that's *still* easier to maintain than a whole liveCD and, in theory, should be less work.
[12:20] <downhillgames> I have a goal, I have a method, I'm just asking for the documentation for the method so I can see how much effort it will really be.
[12:21] <jussi01> downhillgames: ok, I can point you to the packaging guide if you like...
[12:21] <downhillgames> if you can't help, that's ok, but lord knows popping "metapackage ubuntu" into Google is a clusterf*
[12:21] <jussi01> !packaging
[12:21] <downhillgames> that's a start
[12:21] <downhillgames> thanks, Jussi01 ^_^
[12:22] <jussi01> downhillgames: however, you would be better serverd just creating a script that does the stuff
[12:22] <eagles0513875> amerigo: what u can do is setup krdc to allow random connections u just have to have the password and u can connect from an xp machine to ur linux box that way and work on it that way if u r having issues and if its from linux to windows i cant really help u there
[12:22] <downhillgames> mmmmm it's not all stored in the same places all the time, etc. I'd rather just rely on it all in a package and keep that updated... we'll see...
[12:36] <downhillgames> jussi01, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete <---more helpful than "man apt" IMO haha
[12:36] <jussi01> :)
[12:37] <downhillgames> I guess it's just the "specificness" of it, and the relevance, rather than the actual content itself.
[12:37] <etfb> I just broke my MySQL installation.  Anyone know a good way to recreate the "root" user's privileges without reinstalling?
[12:37] <downhillgames> either way, thanks for the linkage :)
[12:40] <amerigo> eagles0513875: thank you
[12:44] <eagles0513875> amerigo: i hope i was of some help to you
[12:47] <amerigo> eagles0513875: yes eagles
[12:47] <eagles0513875> :)
[12:48] <amerigo> eagles0513875: i'm looking for a tutorial for krdc
[12:48] <amerigo> :-)
[12:48] <amerigo> eagles0513875: just a tip
[12:48] <amerigo> eagles0513875: and krfb????
[12:49] <amerigo> eagles0513875: it's only for desktop condivition?
[12:49] <eagles0513875> if u go into system settings and where u setup sharing there is where us set the settings for remote desktop
[12:57] <servitech> krfge
[12:57] <eagles0513875> ?
[12:57] <servitech> i don't und
[12:58] <eagles0513875> !krfge
[12:58] <eagles0513875> !info krfge
[12:58] <eagles0513875> servitech: whats ur question
[12:59] <servitech> i will comeback
[13:04] <eagles0513875> servitech: what is your native language
[13:30] <wimpies> I just ran an 'update' and now my amarok nor xine wants to play mp3 files anymore ...
[13:31] <downhillgames> wimpies, is libxine1-ffmpeg installed?
[13:31] <wimpies> yes it is
[13:31]  * downhillgames doesn't know.
[13:31] <wimpies> It played before ...
[13:32] <JuJuBee> I have a server (7.10) running in my class using NIS and NFS.  Users cannot login.  I checked uptime and all 3 are 1.0.  What can I do to see what is causing the loadds on the server to be so high?
[13:32] <downhillgames> wimpies, Welcome to Linux.
[13:33] <wimpies> downhillgames : has nothing to do with linux but with bad packaging
[13:33] <downhillgames> JuJuBee, from the terminal? run top or htop
[13:33] <JuJuBee> top doesn't show anything using high CPU all < 1%
[13:34] <downhillgames> JuJuBee, there's probably an unreachable NFS mount or something that's causing the high load.
[13:34] <JuJuBee> This has been happening lately too often (about every other day sometimes longer sometimes shorter0
[13:34] <downhillgames> JuJuBee, I'd look at everything NFS before I looked elsewhere for the culprut(sp?) :)
[13:35] <JuJuBee> They can login via ctrl+alt+f2 (NIS working) and they can see their nfs mounted docs and edit them.
[13:35] <JuJuBee> all via terminal
[13:35] <downhillgames> check /var/log
[13:35] <downhillgames> actually, dmesg, I guess... wouldn't it be?
[13:36]  * downhillgames is an NFS noob, but knows the signs
[13:36] <downhillgames> I gotta go, good luck!
[13:37] <eyzee> hi guys
[13:37] <eyzee> does anyone know how to install wine?
[13:38] <eyzee> or the address where to download wine? for ubuntu os
[13:38] <cosmofield> !wine
[13:38] <cosmofield> Eyeless: sudo apt-get install wine
[13:45] <gm04030276> hey...I was trying out LTSP the other day and I'm pretty sure some setting was a bit off and it booted from the root of this computers drive rather than the ltsp part it was meant to or something...anyway...audio is now messed up. Amarok says the device is busy and there is no sound from any program...what do I need to check to find out the problem?
[13:52] <eagles0513875> gm04030276: can take a look at dmesg
[13:52] <eagles0513875> then try /var/log
[13:53] <eagles0513875> will a 32 bit pkg work on a 64bit os
[13:53] <mefisto__> gm04030276: "sudo alsa force-reload" will kill whatever is using the audio and restart alsa
[13:53] <eagles0513875> or is there some emulation needed
[13:58] <mefisto__> eagles0513875: I've heard ia32-libs needs to be installed, but that's all I know
[14:02] <gm04030276> eagles0513875: nothing in dmesg | grep alsa...will try force reload
[14:05] <gm04030276> ok, that made it work again but previously my volume was controled by the PCM slider in kmix and now its gone back to front which i normally had up full (because it came through that and then PCM...so it seemed)
[14:07] <mefisto__> gm04030276: any changes in the switches tabs?
[14:07] <mefisto__> gm04030276: that is, the switches tab in kmix
[14:10] <gm04030276> mefisto__: not that I can see...or would know! There is only headphone (selected), mono (not selected) playback source is set to PCM
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[14:16] <x_link> Hi
[14:16] <x_link> Is Ibex stable to use yet or should I go with Hardy?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> hardy as intrepid is not relased
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> officially
[14:16] <x_link> ActionParsnip: Okey.
[14:17] <x_link> But which one would you recommend?
[14:17] <x_link> Shluld I give Ibex a try or?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> x_link: its considered broken
[14:17] <cosmofield> x_link: depend on what you use your linux box for? If you need stability -> hardy, if you like bleeding edge -> ibex
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> x_link: you csn install the alpha release if you want
[14:17] <x_link> cosmofield: Irssi, kopete, firefox, movie, vlc.
[14:18] <x_link> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/intrepid/alpha-6/
[14:18] <x_link> I just downloaded that.
[14:18] <x_link> Alpha 6
[14:18] <Tm_T> x_link: don't use that
[14:18] <x_link> Why?
[14:18] <Tm_T> x_link: IF you like to use ibex, then get daily or wait for beta
[14:19] <x_link> Tm_T: Where can I get that?
[14:19] <Tm_T> no idea, to be honest, but alpha isn't recommended atm, atleast IF you have intel ethernet
[14:20] <x_link> Tm_T: Alright.
[14:20] <x_link> Then I will install Hardy and in 3-4 months do a aptitude safe-upgrade/dist-upgrade.
[14:20] <x_link> Is that better?
[14:20] <Tm_T> sure (:)
[14:20] <x_link> Alright.
[14:20] <x_link> Thanks alot then.
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> x_link: its more advisable to install hardy, or just wait a month and install intrepid
[14:21] <x_link> One last thing.
[14:21] <x_link> I installed Gutsy yesterday on my new laptop. But gutsy doesn't support my soundcard.
[14:21] <x_link> Should I make a clean re-install with Hardy or just safe-upgrade/dist-upgrade?
[14:22] <x_link> Better to make a clean install, right?
[14:22] <x_link> Cause I just downloaded hardy and burned it on a CD.
[14:23] <ghostcube> x_link: maybe try hardy directly
[14:23] <ghostcube> gutsy wasent the best release ever
[14:23] <x_link> Alright.
[14:23] <ghostcube> :|
[14:23] <x_link> I'm installing it right now.
[14:23] <x_link> I haven't used Linux for 4 months, I have forgotten EVERYTHING
[14:23] <batouhan> hi guys
[14:23] <x_link> Hehe
[14:23] <ghostcube> :)
[14:23] <batouhan> i have a question
[14:24] <x_link> Hurmm.
[14:24] <ghostcube> i havent used windows reylly for month i have forgotten there everything
[14:24] <x_link> I have the wrong CD I guess
[14:24] <x_link> I came to [DR-DOS] A:\\
[14:24] <x_link> When I put in the hardy-cd.
[14:24] <ghostcube> hmmm
[14:24] <ghostcube> doenload the alternate install iso
[14:24] <batouhan> i was burn the kubuntu kde4 8.0 cd and how  i can install it on my computer
[14:24] <batouhan> ?
[14:25] <x_link> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hardy/kubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso
[14:25] <x_link> Isn't that the right file?
[14:25] <eagles0513875> put it in the cd drive and boot of the cd driv
[14:25] <eagles0513875> x_link: thats the alternative install
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> batouhan: yes, set bios to boot cd first, then harddrive
[14:25] <ghostcube> x_link: thats fine
[14:25] <x_link> eagles0513875: I know, I want that.
[14:25] <eagles0513875> x_link: have u tried with the ordinary hardy install
[14:25] <x_link> ghostcube: Okey, doesn't work.
[14:25] <ghostcube> x_link: eh ?
[14:25] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: is  ia32-libs all i need to run a 32bit pkg on 64bit version of kubuntu
[14:26] <batouhan> inside the windows can i install it as ubuntu?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: pretty much
[14:26] <eagles0513875> ok thanks
[14:26] <x_link> Damn it, the Gutsy-CD works but no Hardy.
[14:27] <eagles0513875> x_link: try doing an upgrade
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> x_link: did you md5 check the image you downloaded?
[14:27] <x_link> eagles0513875: I want a fresh install instead =)
[14:27] <x_link> ActionParsnip: Nope
[14:27] <x_link> I will burn the file again.
[14:27] <eagles0513875> x_link: ok
[14:27] <cosmofield> x_link: did you choose i386 or x64?
[14:27] <x_link> i386
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> x_link: probably why it didnt work
[14:28] <x_link> cosmofield
[14:28] <x_link> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hardy/kubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso
[14:28] <x_link> That file.
[14:28] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: does that pkg i mention before come installed on the 64bit version of hardy
[14:29] <cosmofield> x_link: maybe a bad burn, try again, always check md5sums :)
[14:29] <ghostcube> ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/linux/ubuntu/releases/kubuntu/hardy/kubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso
[14:29] <x_link> cosmofield: Don't know how to do that.
[14:29] <x_link> But I'm burning a new CD right now.
[14:29] <cosmofield> !md5sum
[14:30] <x_link> Alright,.
[14:30] <x_link> Will think of that next time.
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/2993/
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> x_link: download integrity is not always garunteed
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> x_link: and its important, especially with the software being an operating system
[14:31] <longpei> ?
[14:31] <x_link> ActionParsnip: Alright.
[14:32] <longpei> 怎么没有人说话啊！
[14:33] <x_link> cosmofield: I will try the new CD now.
[14:33] <jussi01> !cn | longpei
[14:34] <x_link> Doesn't work either =/
[14:34] <x_link> Caldera DR-DOS comes up again.
[14:35] <cosmofield> x_link: there's shouldn't be any DOS on the ubuntu disc :/
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> x_link: are you selecting burn bootable cd in nero?
[14:35] <x_link> YEs.
[14:35] <x_link> I burned it exactly as I burned the Gutsy-cd.
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> x_link: dont do that
[14:36] <x_link> ActionParsnip: What?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> x_link: just open the image with nero and it will be bootable
[14:36] <x_link> Why not?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> x_link: the iso has the boot information
[14:36] <x_link> But I did exactly like this with Gutsy.
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> x_link: make bootable means write dr dos to the cd
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> x_link: trust me
[14:36] <x_link> Okey, I will try it.
[14:36] <x_link> damn it 3rd cd =)
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> x_link: right click image -> open with..then select nero.exe
[14:37] <x_link> Okey, I will try that.
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> or whatever its called
[14:37] <ghostcube> nero 8 is soo bad :) i killed it and installed infra recorder here :D
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> its so big too
[14:37] <eagles0513875> !ot | ghostcube
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> its hilarious
[14:38] <ghostcube> eagles0513875: i know the ot chan i has an own one
[14:38] <ghostcube> *have
[14:38] <x_link> ActionParsnip: I can't rightclick on it and pick nero.
[14:38] <eagles0513875> ghostcube: apologies
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> x_link: or open nero and click file -> open
[14:39] <x_link> Okey
[14:40] <x_link> ActionParsnip: I have Nero Smartstart. There is no "File -> Open"
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> x_link: dont use smart starter, run proper nero
[14:41] <x_link> I just have this.
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> x_link: id ask in ##windows as its a windows app, someone in there should be able to help
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> x_link: Double click not help?
[14:41] <eagles0513875> im having an issue with  ia32-libs
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: sup
[14:42] <eagles0513875> with apt-get install saying its already installed and when i run locate no link to where it is installed is found
[14:42] <x_link> ActionParsnip; Double click on what?
[14:42] <eagles0513875> x_link: ##windows
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> x_link: the file, then it will ask what to open it with and you can point it to nero.exe
[14:42] <x_link> ActionParsnip: I just did that, but I don't find nero there.
[14:43] <MrKennie> anyone know if a good video editor? I just want to cut bits out.
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> x_link: head into ##windows
[14:43] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: any idea on my issue
[14:43] <x_link> ActionParsnip: I'm there now.
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: you dont run it, if you run a 32bit app, the 32bit libs will be used
[14:44] <eyzee> hi.. guys.. is it necessary to have a copy of ubuntu os installer especially if i want to dual boot ?
[14:44] <eyzee> with win xp
[14:44] <eagles0513875> i know but im running locate and it doesnt give me the location that its at so basically its not looking like its installed but when i run apt-get install its saying that its already the latest ActionParsnip
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> eyzee: how do you mean/
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: you want the location of ia32libs?
[14:45] <eagles0513875> eyzee: with xp when u install leave a partition unformatted for kubuntu then just install kubuntu then when u boot for first time in grub ull have a list of choices and u can choose either windows or linux
[14:45] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: ya
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: why do you need to know?
[14:45] <eagles0513875> to make sure that its installed
[14:46] <eagles0513875> i asked in dev and told me that  ia32-libs resides in universe repo and i honestly dont remember installing it if i did
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: well apt-get is saying its installed so you got it
[14:46] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: alright
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: you could remove then reinstall
[14:46] <eagles0513875> no need
[14:46] <eyzee> eagle0513875: i've installed ubuntu first...
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: you dont need to do anything with it, just like your 64bit libs
[14:46] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: they come into action when you run a 32bit binary
[14:47] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: got it
[14:47] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: so its like in vista 64bit u have WoW64 or something those r the 32bit libs that come into play when u have a 32bit app in 64bit environment
[14:48] <eyzee> eagle0513875: some one gave me this web site..http://apcmag.com/howto_home.htm
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: the same
[14:48] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: its not a concern now
[14:48] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: i know but im not getting is how is it in universe when it seems to be installed by default
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: do try and get 64bit goodness when you can
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: its not default afaik
[14:49] <Shambuku> why doesn't ubuntu or its variations do not offer dvd images?
[14:49] <RurouniJones> Um
[14:49] <x_link> ActionParsnip: I did like that now.
[14:49] <x_link> I will try the CD now.
[14:49] <x_link> YES
[14:49] <x_link> Now it works! =)
[14:49] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: i know but im setting up ventrilo for my guild and they only have 32bit version
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> x_link: see
[14:49] <RurouniJones> Unless you have more thatn 4GB of RAM using 64Bit Linux will be more hassle that it is worth
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> x_link: make bootable writes doctor dos
[14:49] <x_link> ActionParsnip: Man, you don't know how greatfull I'am.
[14:49] <eagles0513875> RurouniJones: i have 8gb
[14:49] <eagles0513875> lol
[14:49] <RurouniJones> If you want to use it as a desktop that is
[14:49] <x_link> ActionParsnip: But it worked with Gutsy.
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> x_link: the cds youhave are good for bios updates
[14:49] <eagles0513875> i know overkill
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> x_link: make a bootable cd with bios image and bios flasher and you got an updater ;)
[14:50] <RurouniJones> Good luck, read up about flash plugins and firefox on 64 bit systems if you are gonna use that\
[14:50] <x_link> Now it's time for some food.
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> x_link: well it doesnt work now and thats what matters
[14:50] <eagles0513875> RurouniJones: im using flash-nonfree plugin but still have some video playback issues with that
[14:50] <x_link> ActionParsnip: Thanks ALOT, you're the MAN =)
[14:50] <x_link> brb
[14:51] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: out of firefox boin and the client apache bind dhcp spamassassin sendmail clamav what could have installed the 32bit lib stuff
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: no idea, you could dpkg -l | less
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: may give some clues
[14:52] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: well its installed lol
[14:53] <Shambuku> dvd images for kubuntu?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: it may tell you if any binarys are 32bit
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: not sure
[14:54] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: with that command how can i tell if its 32 or 64
[14:54] <Glady> the cop server
[14:54] <eagles0513875> Glady: u talking bout dcop
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: id read the output, i cant be sure
[14:55] <Glady> it is always wrong that thing
[14:55] <Glady> and dcc server
[14:55] <Glady> ?
[14:55] <eagles0513875> Glady: how do i check those dpkg -l | less | grep dcop | grep dcc
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: put | less on the end
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: with that amount of grepping i doubt less is needed
[14:57] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: that opens up a log file for some reason
[14:57] <eagles0513875> and without less doesnt return anythin
[14:57] <eagles0513875> *anything
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> oh
[14:59] <eagles0513875> Glady: any idea
[14:59] <x_link> Why can I just make the partition 88GB as minumin?
[15:00] <x_link> It's says that the minimum is 33% of the disk?
[15:00] <eyzee> guys.. i was tryingt o partition my HD in ubuntu os. the icon shows is lock.
[15:00] <x_link> I only have a 160GB disc in this laptop so I don't want 88GB for the OS.
[15:01] <Glady> I have no output
[15:02] <eagles0513875> me neither
[15:06] <cosmofield> x_link: do a manual partitioning, then select 8 GB
[15:06] <Glady> defence
[15:07] <x_link> cosmofield: It worked now =)
[15:07] <x_link> Now I must go and cut my hair.
[15:07] <x_link> Bye!
[15:09] <blublu1> salve a tutti sono nuovo da queste parti .ho da poco installato Kubuntu ed ho nu problema.ho due web cam 1 logitech l'altra trust che il cp non riconosce cosa devo fare? grazie
[15:10] <eagles0513875> !it | blublu1
[15:10] <Shambuku> Where can I find a kubuntu dvd iso
[15:10] <eagles0513875> !kubuntu
[15:10] <eagles0513875> Shambuku: should be able to get it from kubuntu website
[15:11] <Shambuku> they only have cd iso's
[15:11] <eagles0513875> Shambuku: thats interesting cuz for ubuntu u have the option i think to download dvd
[15:11] <eagles0513875> i saw u can order kubuntu
[15:12] <Shambuku> ubuntu or kubuntu only is offering cd iso's i swear they use to have dvd
[15:12] <Glady> nato
[15:12] <eagles0513875> Glady: ?
[15:12] <Glady> yes?
[15:12] <Shambuku> maybe bandwidth issues?
[15:12] <eagles0513875> Glady: nato???
[15:13] <Glady> wrong output
[15:13] <eagles0513875> Shambuku: try in kubuntu-devel they would know better where to point u to
[15:13] <Shambuku> its more of a rant than a help lol
[15:13] <Shambuku> they just don't have it
[15:13] <Glady> norad
[15:14] <eagles0513875> !ot | Glady
[15:14] <eagles0513875> Shambuku: put a wishlist on launchpad.net
[15:14] <gm04030276> ....anyway I can reload the X configuration without logging out and restarting the X server?
[15:14] <Glady> ok
[15:14] <Glady> bellevue
[15:16] <Guest43555> hellow
[15:16] <Guest43555> i am new
[15:16] <Shambuku> maybe debian has dvd iso's
[15:17] <eagles0513875> !hi | Guest43555
[15:17] <cosmofield> Is it possible to open tar.gz files like a folder in konqueror?
[15:17] <eagles0513875> cosmofield: run tar -xvf and it extracts them to a folder but i dont think u can open it in konqueror#
[15:19] <Guest43555> thank you
[15:19] <eagles0513875> Guest43555: anything we can help you with today
[15:19] <cosmofield> I remember that I opened a tar file in konq before, It said 'tar: (filename)' in one tab, but now It doesn't work :/
[15:19] <eagles0513875> anyone know how to execute a binary
[15:19] <eagles0513875> cosmofield: dunno bud :( never opened a tar file in konk i tend to shy away from it
[15:20] <mefisto__> cosmofield: it works for me
[15:20] <cosmofield> mefisto__: Hmm, what packade do I need? The files only opens with ark
[15:21] <ghostcube> eagles0513875: ?? with sh or ./ infornt the file
[15:21] <mefisto__> cosmofield: sorry, I'm wrong. but dolphin does do it
[15:21] <eagles0513875> ghostcube: lol ya just checked the website of the program lol and i found my answer
[15:21] <bbeck> I saw in the systemsettings that you could make your gtk apps look like kde4 apps so I tried it, and the gtk apps looked awful.  So now I want to change it back.  Does anyone know a good way to do that?
[15:24] <cosmofield> mefisto__: Ok, I solved it :)
[15:24] <mefisto__> cosmofield: how does it work?
[15:25] <cosmofield> mefisto__: I removed some metainfo files, but now the filenames seems strange, does Konqueror support uft-8
[15:31] <Glady> ah
[15:32] <Glady> does firefox support deceive?
[15:34] <allengaller> hello everyone
[15:34] <Nece228> how to know which one ati catalyst driver version im using?
[15:38] <mefisto__> Nece228: if you have the catalyst control center it should tell you which version you have
[15:40] <Glady> ok
[15:40] <Nece228> mefisto__: it dont shows me
[15:40] <Glady> ok
[15:40] <mefisto__> Nece228: under "information"
[15:40] <Glady> its you
[15:41] <Nece228> mefisto__: theres no "information"
[15:41] <Glady> what information you need
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[15:43] <Glady> orange agent
[15:43] <cosmofield> !spam
[15:47] <Glady> as u wish
[15:57] <cosmofield> How can I get rid of the Directory Filter Plugin in Konqueror? Inactivating and restarting doesn't help :(  My statusbar in Konq is flooded with filter icons (bug?)
[15:57] <gm04030276> now wrong is everything likely to go if i take about a TB worth of stuff off 4 500GB drives and put them into a raid5 system and then put it all back...
[15:58] <gm04030276> *how
[16:00] <dfuentesh> uhh
[16:01] <dfuentesh> who knows the name of the kde4 panel porcess...I just kill it :D
[16:05] <bleaked> does anyone know why the gtk2-engines-gtk-qt package/module doesn't appear to be working?  a hardy update i received (i grab from backports and a few others) seems to have broken this package.. not only does firefox and other similar apps look horrible, but the kcontrol module is missing as well.. and I cannot seem to find any reference to this recently..
[16:05] <bleaked> does it have anything to do with the kde4 transition?
[16:08] <mrunagi> kubuntu has been acting screwy for me lately, jumbled text, greying out windows, d3lphin crashes
[16:10] <cosmofield> is it possible to verify written data when copying files in konsole? It would be nice if so
[16:12] <bbeck> cosmofield: what do you mean?
[16:13] <cosmofield> bbeck:  something similar to the /v switch in ms-dos
[16:14] <mrunagi> how can i compare contents of one directory with contents from another to see if its identical or not
[16:14] <mrunagi> meaning folder A has file 1 2 and 3         folder B has file 1 and 3
[16:14] <mrunagi> folder B is missing file 2
[16:15] <bbeck> cosmofield: you mean just compare two files to see if they are identical?
[16:15] <bleaked> mrunagi: install kdiff3
[16:16] <cosmofield> mrunagi: kompare maybe, but I haven't tested it
[16:16] <cosmofield> bbeck: yes, I have a script that prints two md5sums for source and destination but I must manually verify it :/
[16:19] <bbeck> you can use cksum
[16:20] <bbeck> cosmofield: er... sorry, why not just have the script compare the two md5sums?
[16:21] <mrunagi> hrm
[16:21] <mrunagi> lemme look at the man for cksum
[16:22] <mrunagi> cksum just checks the size
[16:22] <mrunagi> does it tell me what is missing?
[16:25] <m4verick> hi
[16:26] <cosmofield> bbeck: Yes, but I am no good at writing shell skripts, but cksum seems similar to md5sum, cksum also write the file size also :/
[16:26] <asma> hey
[16:27] <eagles0513875> !hi asma
[16:27] <eagles0513875> !hi | asma
[16:28] <asma> thx ubotto
[16:28] <eagles0513875> asma: hes a bot lol
[16:28] <asma> hi,eagles
[16:28] <eagles0513875> hi asma anything i can try to assist u with
[16:28] <Skrux> hi
[16:29] <eagles0513875> !hi | Skrux
[16:29] <asma> well,there are nothing for the moment eagles
[16:30] <asma> but,did u work on ns2 on linux?
[16:30] <Skrux> I need to configure my kde to show the superkaramba widgets on start
[16:31] <Skrux> but I don't want to memorise, I need to start a blank session every time
[16:32] <Skrux> if I put the link of superkaramba in the autostart, the supercaramba opens, but i have to put every time the widgets
[16:35] <CapaH> Question, with KDE 4 - how do you "hide" desktop widgits ?
[16:39] <matt__> Does anyone have a solution for when sound stops working under kde?
[16:40] <matt__> Reboot solves it but that's not satifactory
[16:40] <matt__> All of a sudden youtube doesn't work
[16:40] <matt__> Nor does amarok
[16:40] <matt__> ("xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers")
[16:41] <matt__> (running 8.4 on thinkpad t61p)
[16:59] <matt__> found my solution
[16:59] <matt__> lsof | grep snd
[16:59] <matt__> kill whatever has snd
[16:59] <matt__> (was soffice ?!?)
[17:01] <bbeck> cosmofield: you still here?
[17:01] <cosmofield> :)
[17:03] <bbeck> cosmofield: this script will let you know if two files match, it's fairly simple to extend it to more files if you need to...
[17:03] <bbeck> #!/usr/bin/perl
[17:03] <bbeck> use strict;
[17:04] <bbeck> use warnings;
[17:04] <bbeck> my @md5sums = `md5sum $ARGV[0] $ARGV[1]`;
[17:04] <bbeck> my $firstSum = undef;
[17:04] <bbeck> foreach my $sum ( @md5sums ) {
[17:04] <NickPresta> bbeck: pastebin your code instead of writing in here
[17:04] <bbeck>         $sum =~ /(\w{32})/;
[17:04] <NickPresta> !pastebin
[17:04] <bbeck>         if( defined( $firstSum ) ) {
[17:04] <bbeck>                 next if( $firstSum eq $1 );
[17:04] <bbeck>                 die "Files do not match" if( $firstSum ne $1 );
[17:04] <bbeck>         } else {
[17:04] <bbeck>                 $firstSum = $1;
[17:04] <bbeck>         }
[17:04] <bbeck> }
[17:04] <bbeck> print "Files match\n";
[17:04] <bbeck> NickPresta: sorry
[17:04] <NickPresta> its okay. in the future, please pastebin so our screens don't scroll back 10 lines a second :)
[17:06] <bbeck> cosmofield: Here you go, a pastebin version: http://paste.ubuntu.com/50913/
[17:06] <cosmofield> bbeck: thanks for the effort,I will try it :)
[17:07] <bbeck> cosmofield: you run it like so:  checkSums.pl <file1> <file2>
[17:09] <cosmofield> Thanks, it works :)
[17:12] <bbeck> cosmofield: doh, a simpler way may have been to simply do a "diff -q <file1> <file2>" it outputs a message only if two files are different.
[17:14] <cosmofield> works nice also, thx, now I must leave
[17:21] <salla> Häh?
[17:41] <mrunagi> so cp -v -r -i /source/dir /dest/dir is going to allow me to only copy files that i havent already?
[17:52] <genii> mrunagi: No. it will just prompt you for each and every file recursively if you want to overwrite or not if one already exists
[17:53] <NickPresta> I thought -u was for update with cp
[18:05] <schuppel> hi
[18:08] <eagles0513875> !hi | schuppel
[18:10] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[18:10] <MetaMorfoziS> is the livecd install detects if there are a windows on another partition?
[18:10] <MetaMorfoziS> (hardy)
[18:10] <MetaMorfoziS> khardy
[18:10] <eagles0513875> MetaMorfoziS: all u have to do is a custom partition layout and choose the freespace
[18:11] <MetaMorfoziS> i mean that it adds windows to grub
[18:11] <MetaMorfoziS> as the alternate install do?
[18:12] <lumm> yep
[18:12] <MetaMorfoziS> thanks
[18:15] <MetaMorfoziS> http://global.phoronix-test-suite.com/index.php?k=profile&u=meta-7833-26059-3974
[18:15] <MetaMorfoziS> oops not to here, sry
[18:18] <eagles0513875> !iptables
[18:23] <phoenixz> Is there already a repository available to switch to and try the new intrepid?
[18:23] <izzyb> I'm having problems with sound on yet another install of kubuntu.  The sound was working just fine on this machine (fresh install of Hardy) until I added an Nvidia video card and installed the proprietary driver.  Beyond that, I don't know what has changed.  I've been googling but haven't found a solution.  I keep coming up with this link (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449), but it appears to be outdated.  Is there a revis
[18:23] <izzyb> ed version that covers hardy?
[18:27] <user6> ! xubuntu
[18:31] <cata-corina> sal all
[18:31] <izzyb> !sound
[18:31] <cata-corina> !dc++
[18:31] <NickPresta> cata-corina: whats up
[18:31] <cata-corina> i whant to unninstal dc++
[18:32] <NickPresta> how did you install it?
[18:32] <cata-corina> pls help me
[18:32] <cata-corina> from the terminal
[18:32] <NickPresta> cata-corina: did you compile it from source, did you install it as a package (.deb)?
[18:32] <cata-corina> no
[18:33] <cata-corina> wget -c http://easylinux.info/uploads/linuxdcpp.tar.gz
[18:33] <cata-corina> with that
[18:33] <NickPresta> cata-corina: that doesn't install dc++. That simply downloads the tar.gz file to your computer...
[18:33] <cata-corina> sudo tar zxvf linuxdcpp.tar.gz -C /opt
[18:33] <NickPresta> cata-corina: okay. continue
[18:33] <cata-corina> sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/linuxdcpp.desktop
[18:34] <cata-corina> sudo gedit /usr/sbin/linuxdcpp
[18:34] <cata-corina> #!/bin/bash
[18:34] <cata-corina> cd /opt/linuxdcpp
[18:34] <cata-corina> ./linuxdcpp > /dev/null 2>&1 &
[18:34] <cata-corina> chmod a+x /usr/sbin/linuxdcpp
[18:34] <cata-corina> and dont work
[18:35] <NickPresta> cata-corina: simply delete /usr/sbin/linuxdcpp, /opt/linuxdcpp, and /usr/share/applications/linuxdcpp.desktop
[18:37] <servitech__> bonjour
[18:37] <NickPresta> !fr | servitech__
[18:37] <phoenixz> !intrepid
[18:37] <cata-corina> thx allot
[18:38] <bayram> !intrepid
[18:38] <NickPresta> bayram: inspect the message with /msg ubottu intrepid
[18:38] <bayram> ok
[18:39] <servitech__> thanks
[18:42] <grego_> which command shows current cpu speed?
[18:42] <NickPresta> grego_: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[18:42] <grego_> thank you
[18:51] <JuJuBee> My server has been acting up.  THe loads are ... 13:46:49 up  5:01,  4 users,  load average: 0.99, 0.65, 0.28 and my stuents cannot do anything now.  How can I figure out whey load is so high?  Top doesn't show anything using much cpu or mem at all.
[18:51] <JuJuBee> Seems to be pinned at .99 load
[18:53] <x3on> hey, how can  i roll back kde4 to kd3?
[18:54] <NickPresta> JuJuBee: those loads are miniscule.
[18:55] <JuJuBee> aren't they percents?  I thought .99=99%
[18:55] <izzyb> JuJuBee, a load average of .99 doesnt seem that bad for a server.  how many users?
[18:55] <JuJuBee> 14
[18:55] <izzyb> nope
[18:55] <jesus_> hi
[18:55] <JuJuBee> something is causing my students workstations to freeze and when they do, the loads always go from .08 or so to .99+
[18:55] <jesus_> hi everybody
[18:56] <izzyb> load average is number of processes needing attention an a given period. so .99 is less then one
[18:56] <NickPresta> JuJuBee: http://www.teamquest.com/resources/gunther/display/5/index.htm
[18:56] <JuJuBee> /var/log/syslog doesn't have anything unusual around that time
[18:56] <izzyb> what type of connections?
[18:56] <jesus_> how install google tal here?
[18:57] <NickPresta> JuJuBee: that seems like a different problem, not indicative of a sytem load problem (at least not by the loads reported in uptime)
[18:57] <lumm> wahts google tal?
[18:57] <lumm> seems windows only jesus_
[18:57] <lumm> try getting it to work with Wine
[18:57] <lumm> (windows emulator)
[18:58] <JuJuBee> The strange thing is that if the students log into a tty like ctrl+alt+f2, they are able to log in and use links,nano etc. just fine.  Just the GUI freezes.
[18:58] <izzyb> JuJuBee, what gui?
[18:58] <JuJuBee> kde
[18:59] <izzyb> freezes how?
[18:59] <izzyb> mouse stop?
[18:59] <JuJuBee> They can do nothing. mouse moves, but can't open/close anything (window or app)
[18:59] <jesus_> google talk messenger
[18:59] <izzyb> keyboard must still work if you can ctrl-alt-f2
[18:59] <JuJuBee> correct.
[18:59] <JuJuBee> Been trying to figure this out for some time now.
[18:59] <izzyb> which kde?
[19:00] <jesus_> lumm
[19:00] <JuJuBee> I have kde3 and kde4 installed, but they use 3
[19:00] <jesus_> help me please
[19:00] <jesus_> seem
[19:00] <trey> is genii around?
[19:00] <izzyb> which version of kubuntu?
[19:00] <jesus_> how install google talk here kubuntu?
[19:01] <devo> i have a problem, hopfully someone can help me out so here it goes.  just about everytime i want to look on the net firefox alway's closes by it's self, today it did it about 10 times and i was only on the computer for not even 5min's can anyone help me out???
[19:01] <JuJuBee> izzyb : 8.04 on workstations 7.10 on server
[19:02] <izzyb> hmm, and the problem is happening on all the workstations (14?)
[19:02] <izzyb> are they the same hardware?
[19:02] <andypls1> guys
[19:02] <andypls1> i have a question
[19:02] <devo> can anyone help me out???
[19:02] <andypls1> but it's not about kubuntu
[19:03] <JuJuBee> Yes, all workstations, yes  same hardware
[19:03] <cosmofield> devo: if you start firefox from command line, is there's any error messages left there? I also had similar problem early
[19:03] <andypls1> and i don't think it fits to any chat room
[19:03] <devo> wtf
[19:03] <devo> no i don't start from a command line
[19:04] <andypls1> do you know if it legal to republish documents of other people in your website?
[19:04] <devo> no there's no error meaages it just closes by it's self
[19:04] <devo> damn it, it did it again WTF!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:04] <izzyb> JuJuBee, what is the video card?
[19:04] <cosmofield> devo: but it may be messages left in the terminal if you start it from konsole
[19:04] <devo> can someone help me before i break this damn computer
[19:05] <izzyb> devo, start firefox from the commnad line and see if it leaves an error message when it crashes
[19:05] <JuJuBee> izzyb : not sure they are dells.
[19:05] <devo> i don't start from the terminal, i have the firefox icon on my desktop
[19:05] <devo> i click on that
[19:05] <JuJuBee> How can I check from cli?
[19:05] <devo> i don't know how to
[19:05] <devo> i'm new with use'n linux, srry
[19:06] <izzyb> JuJuBee, I'm not sure what the problem is, but was thinking maybe video driver issue, but then you can move the mouse around...
[19:06] <devo> i only have used linux for the past 3 to 4 week's and still can't do the damn command line's right
[19:06] <JuJuBee> I can ssh to the workstations and run commands just fine also.
[19:06] <devo> or anything right for that matter
[19:06] <cosmofield> devo: open a terminal and write firefox and press enter
[19:06] <JuJuBee> izzyb : uptime and top on workstations reveal nothing unusual.
[19:07] <devo> k hold on
[19:07] <izzyb> JuJuBee, yeah, the problem is with kde crashing somehow, but I'm not sure what.  the kernel is still in control if you can switch virtual terminals and ssh
[19:08] <izzyb> I've had locks in xwindows where the keyboard and mouse hung but I could still ssh
[19:08] <devo> ok i did type in firefox but nothing is comeing up
[19:08] <JuJuBee> I can't keep restarting the server to fix this... I have one computer that is still 7.10 and it has same problem.  Never saw this last year.
[19:08] <devo> n/m it is comeing up now but slow as hell
[19:09] <izzyb> restarting the server fixes it?
[19:09] <JuJuBee> THought it might have been NIS or NFS (use both) but they can log into tty2 and see their docs and edit them.
[19:09] <devo> i don't get why my internet connection is slow as hell, can anyone help me out with that?
[19:09] <JuJuBee> Yes. restarting the server fixes it.
[19:09] <izzyb> oh, maybe nfs...
[19:10] <JuJuBee> How can I check?
[19:10] <devo> wtf now everything is frezz'n but this i don't get it, wtf!!!!!!!!!!
[19:10] <izzyb> sorry JuJuBee, I have a cranky baby on my hands and need to attend to her needs.  maybe in a few I can help some more...
[19:10] <JuJuBee> K thanks
[19:11] <devo> i hate be'n a person that don't know much about linux on top of that no one will help me out either that's fucked up big time!!!!!!
[19:12] <cosmofield> Are you using any firefox plugins, try to inactivate some of them, if that's not helping then try to reinstall firefox
[19:12] <devo> yeah ppl help me here and there but they don't help me out when i really do need it, there help'n out other ppl in which im in need of help, just like the rest of the ppl that r in here that do ask for help but do i get it no'
[19:13] <devo> i don't know any command line's i am us to window's not linux so u try to tell me to do someth'n with out tell'n how, i'm not gonna be able to do it cuz linux is hard as hell to learn espectially when a person like me has a learning disibility
[19:14] <devo> and they say that linux is the best os out there, i am start'n to think that's bullshit
[19:16] <cosmofield> devo: that's depends on what you mean with best. :)
[19:17] <Maxa> is there a !command for that windows != linux page...
[19:18] <Daisuke_Ido> !lnw
[19:18] <devo> if ppl r tell'n me that linux is the best os out there today with it be'n very secure and stuff then ppl like me wouldn't be out in the dark for ask'n for help and on top of that u have to fix this u have to fix that in linux why can't linux not be such a pain in the ass to learn by urself when no one does help u at all even if u ask for it
[19:19] <Daisuke_Ido> devo: yes, it's different.  you're going to have to do things differently, and YES, you're going to have to learn at least a little bit concerning the terminal
[19:19] <devo> i hate window's, windows can kiss my fat ass
[19:19] <Daisuke_Ido> if you're just looking for a free windows, this isn't what you're looking for
[19:19] <Daisuke_Ido> by the way, watch your language, this is an all-ages channel
[19:19] <MrKennie> devo: I understand your frustration but you need to calm down somewhat.
[19:19] <devo> well that's what happend's when i get mad
[19:20] <devo> i will once i know that ppl in here will help me out more
[19:20] <Daisuke_Ido> you need to state problems clearly
[19:20] <devo> i hate it when i ask for help and all i get is nothing
[19:20] <devo> i have that happen to me all the time and i hate it
[19:20] <Daisuke_Ido> and coming in saying something doesn't work isn't clear.
[19:20] <Daisuke_Ido> and guess what, everyone here is a volunteer
[19:20] <devo> i have tried
[19:21] <Daisuke_Ido> a lot of us have other things going on - for instance, i'm leaving in about two minutes to go to class
[19:21] <devo> have fun
[19:22] <devo> now u tell me that i should know more about the termial, am i right?
[19:22] <Maxa> yes
[19:22] <Maxa> so you type firefox.. and nothing happens, right?
[19:22] <devo> then were can i learn about the termial without haven to ask about it then???
[19:22] <MrKennie> devo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[19:23] <devo> i did type in firefox and the internet connection was very slow
[19:23] <devo> thnx i'll take a look @ it in a min or 2
[19:23] <MrKennie> devo: what is it you need the terminal for anyway?
[19:23] <Maxa> does it crash when you use flash, like youtube...?
[19:24] <devo> so i don't have to keep on ask'n ppl for help and they tell me to do anything about the terminal, then i'll know what they r talk'n about.
[19:24] <devo> i have flash on firefox so i don't know if that's the problem or not
[19:25] <MrKennie> devo: OK, just take things one step at a time and be patient if you get stuck and want to ask a question here :)
[19:25] <devo> and i don't go onto youttube all the time just once in a blue moon
[19:25] <devo> i do think that i'm being very patient rite now, what  do u think?
[19:26] <MrKennie> well, you got the guide. Have fun with ubuntu
[19:26] <devo> but then what about learning the terminal command's?
[19:27] <devo> n/m
[19:27] <izzyb> devo, you don't have to worry about learning the terminal commands all at once.  it's something that happens over time
[19:28] <MrKennie> devo: you really don't need to become an expert at it as most things can be acheived graphically nowadays. Some knowledge will go a long way however.
[19:28] <devo> so what's a really good web bowser that wont crash ahole lot
[19:28] <devo> ?
[19:28] <devo> ok
[19:28] <izzyb> and you'll find people are more responsive to your problems when you are patient.  keep in mind that most people are doing other things on the side while in here so it may take a moment or so for someone to respond
[19:28] <izzyb> yes it sucks, but that's how it works.
[19:28] <devo> ok
[19:29] <devo> kool, thnx
[19:29] <izzyb> as for running firefox from the terminal, the reason is you'll usually get output in the terminal window when you run programs that way
[19:29] <devo> for the info
[19:29] <devo> oh ok
[19:29] <izzyb> so, did you get firefox to run from the command line?
[19:29] <devo> i didn't know that
[19:29] <devo> lol
[19:29] <devo> i don't know, i didn't run it yet, but i will now
[19:30] <cosmofield> devo: do you using any plugins or extensions with firefox? Try to disable them and see if the problem still exists
[19:30] <izzyb> you don't need to be an expert in terminal, just be prepared to run commands when people ask you to
[19:30] <izzyb> you don't need to know what they do even.  its just how people can best help you
[19:30] <devo> ok i'm run'n firefox in the terminal
[19:31] <devo> i know there's a flash plugin but i don't know about anything else though
[19:31] <izzyb> are you going to sites with flash when it crashes?
[19:32] <devo> i don't think so, and what is get value variable 1 & 2
[19:32] <cosmofield> i had a problem with firefox crashes, the problem was that the folder ~/.macromedia was read-only so it crashed every time a flash-objekt was loaded
[19:33] <devo> hm...so then what did u do and did it fix the problem?
[19:33] <twylight> okay
[19:34] <twylight> I broke the package manager again
[19:34] <izzyb> devo, I'd wait for the crash now and when it does, check the terminal window for error messags
[19:34] <cosmofield> devo: added write premission to the folder
[19:34] <Denise> I dont understand you
[19:34] <devo> oh ok
[19:34] <twylight> adept crashed while upgrading some packages
[19:35] <devo> so when it does crash i'll let u guy's know the message is, thnx for help  ;-)
[19:35] <twylight> now apparently the administration directory is still in use by something that doesn't exist
[19:35] <twylight> !adept
[19:35] <izzyb> devo, np.  I'll probably be around for a while yet, so let me know when it crashes
[19:36] <devo> u got it dude  ;-)
[19:36] <twylight> !broken
[19:37] <twylight> can anyone help me with purging or whatever regarding apt?
[19:37] <twylight> !apt
[19:38] <x_link> cosmofield: Hi, there?
[19:38] <cosmofield> x_link: Hi, how are the installtion? :)
[19:38] <x_link> cosmofield: Just came home, Hardy didn't work. Tried 4 times. But I just bruned a new cd at 8x. So now it worked =)
[19:38] <x_link> cosmofield: I REALLY hope that my soundcard will work now.
[19:39] <devo> (firefox:13342): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[19:39] <izzyb> JuJuBee, so, just to make sure I understand, you have a server running nfs.  What exports do you have?  do the workstations boot from local disk or over the network?
[19:39] <devo> that's what i get from the terminal
[19:40] <devo> izzyb: u still there?
[19:40] <jesus_> hi
[19:41] <twylight> !synaptic
[19:41] <izzyb> devo,  yes
[19:41] <twylight> I'd like a howto on FIXING apt
[19:41] <devo> (firefox:13342): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[19:41] <devo> that's what i keep on gett'n
[19:42] <x_link> cosmofield: It's REALLY hard to get used to the mouse on a laptop =)
[19:42] <Denise> firefox is not an object
[19:42] <sidd> could anybody give a little advice regarding PureFTPd ? I'm having some problems with virtual users configuration, I already read he included help
[19:42] <izzyb> does it crash when you get that message?
[19:42] <cosmofield> x_link: is the mouse or touchpad not working? I never use touchpad anyway
[19:42] <twylight> so, can anyone help with my problem?
[19:43] <x_link> cosmofield: It's working, but it's hard to use it in the beginning. I'm used to a regular mouse =)
[19:43] <devo> yeah i does
[19:43] <JuJuBee> izzyb : yes, running nfs.  I export /home and workstations boot from local HD.  Use NIS for login and NFS for documents on server.
[19:43] <cosmofield> x_link: ok
[19:43] <izzyb> devo, I'd try googling that line with quotes and see what it gives you
[19:43] <devo> ok
[19:44] <devo> i did and nothing came up
[19:44] <twylight> so nobody can help me
[19:44] <twylight> this is great
[19:44] <izzyb> JuJuBee, I'm thinking it could be nfs hanging causing the problem.  as a test, maybe try copying one of the users home dirs to the local workstation and don't mount nfs on it
[19:44] <cosmofield> !google
[19:44] <Denise> salauds
[19:45] <izzyb> JuJuBee, I'm not an expert on nfs, but know it can cause locking issues.  which nfs server are you running?
[19:45] <JuJuBee> izzyb : I can log into the workstations if I restart X and use the local admin account. (no NIS and no NFS for that)
[19:46] <JuJuBee> Whatever in repos
[19:46] <MetaMorfoziS> loool
[19:46] <JuJuBee> Same as last year.
[19:46] <bbeck> twylight: when adept crashes often it can corrupt the database, have you tried running apt-get from the command line and following its directions?
[19:47] <Fargh> does ubuntu still use the file /etc/inittab ??
[19:47] <izzyb> there are three nfs servers available in repo
[19:47] <Twylight> yes, and I get an error message
[19:47] <izzyb> I here nfs-kernel-server is the best
[19:47] <izzyb> but I don't know a lot about the others
[19:47] <Twylight> "Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission Denied)
[19:47] <bbeck> Twylight: run apt-get with sudo.
[19:47] <izzyb> Twylight, sudo apt-get
[19:48] <Twylight> and when I do that, I get another error
[19:48] <sidd> could anybody give a little advice regarding PureFTPd ? I'm having some problems with virtual users configuration, I already read he included help but still not wrking
[19:48] <Twylight> open 11, resource temporariliy unavailable
[19:48] <JuJuBee> izzyb : ps aux | grep nfs shows nfsd
[19:48] <izzyb> devo, did you find anything interesting
[19:48] <Twylight> like I said, since adept crashed in the middle of updating, it still has /var/lib/dpkg/ locked
[19:48] <izzyb> JuJuBee, dpkg -i | grep nfs
[19:49] <Twylight> how do I repair this?
[19:49] <Twylight> there's a command to do it, I just can't remember it
[19:49] <devo> i did look and nothing came up srry to say
[19:49] <JuJuBee> did you mean -l not -i ?
[19:49] <bbeck> can you put the complete output of running on pastebin? (http://paste.ubuntu.com)
[19:50] <izzyb> er -l
[19:50] <JuJuBee> shows nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server
[19:50] <JuJuBee> Oh, and libnfsidmap2
[19:50] <izzyb> devo, hmm, well, that's your starting point.  perhaps there's a missing module or something.  btw, what firefox are you running?
[19:51] <izzyb> JuJuBee, k, so you have the nfs-kernel-server.  what are the export options you have for home?
[19:52] <devo> i don't know, how do i find that out?
[19:52] <Twylight> right, so now nobody can help with my issue?
[19:52] <JuJuBee> Remind me how to check that?  I set it up over 1.5 years ago.
[19:52] <izzyb> JuJuBee, I wouldn't use the local admin to test, you need to duplicate the environment as much as possible so I'd unmount /home on one of the workstations and rsync one of the users home folders to the local workstation and run that way for that user and see if it crashes
[19:53] <izzyb> cat /etc/exports
[19:53] <JuJuBee> Ok, I will.
[19:53] <bbeck> Twylight: can you put the complete output of running on pastebin? (http://paste.ubuntu.com)
[19:53] <Twylight> sure, but it's really straight forward
[19:53] <JuJuBee> /home   192.168.6.0/255.255.255.0(async,no_root_squash,rw)
[19:53] <izzyb> devo, at the command line did you type firefox or firefox-2?
[19:53] <izzyb> what does help/about in firefox say?
[19:54] <JuJuBee> But for some reason it is listed 2x
[19:54] <izzyb> JuJuBee, exactly the same line both times?
[19:54] <JuJuBee> Yes
[19:54] <devo> i did firefox
[19:54] <izzyb> hmm, comment out one of them
[19:54] <JuJuBee> Just commented out one
[19:55] <izzyb> devo, what does the menu help/about say?
[19:55] <izzyb> yeah, you shouldn't be exporting it twice with the same options.  could be the problem
[19:55] <Twylight> http://paste.ubuntu.com/50983/ <- my issue
[19:55] <x_link> cosmofield: The sound doesn't work in Hardy either =/
[19:56] <MrKennie> Twylight: do you have adept running ?
[19:56] <Twylight> it was running, then it crashed
[19:56] <devo> nothing
[19:56] <devo> it doesn't say anything
[19:56] <izzyb> JuJuBee, This is what I use for my home export:  rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check
[19:56] <Twylight> now it's neither running nor inactive, but some state of in between
[19:57] <JuJuBee> What is teh no_subtree_check for?
[19:57] <Twylight> therefore the program is not working, but the administration directory is still locked, preventing my access
[19:57] <devo> n/m it's 3.0.2
[19:57] <izzyb> devo, doesn't it have the firefox version number in help/about?
[19:57] <izzyb> oh, ok
[19:57] <izzyb> I'm still usiing 2.x so maybe its a problem with 3.x
[19:57] <izzyb> try uninstalling firefox 3.x and install 2.x and see if that helps?
[19:58] <izzyb> if you don't mind the downgrade that is
[19:58] <Twylight> the question I've been asking for the last 30 minutes, is what is the command that will fix this problem, because I've dealt with this before, I know what the problem is but I need to know what to put into the terminal to fix it
[19:58] <JuJuBee> izzyb : can I restart nfs on client and or workstation to regain control?
[19:58] <MrKennie> Twylight: try sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get -f install
[19:58] <Twylight> you don't get it
[19:58] <devo> ok will do, srry but i do have to get to work @ 2:30p.m.  so i'll talk to u when i get done
[19:58] <devo> l8tr
[19:58] <Twylight> neither of those work, the directory is locked
[19:58] <Twylight> I cannot access it
[19:59] <Twylight> it's like chmodding chmod to 555
[19:59] <Twylight> although not as irreversible
[19:59] <izzyb> JuJuBee, you mean when theirs a crash.  possibly restarting it on the server would help, but I don't know what the effect of that would be with 14 workstations accessing it
[19:59] <izzyb> does it freeze on all of them at the same time?
[19:59] <JuJuBee> Around the same time.  within about 2 minutes.
[19:59] <JuJuBee> They are all currently frozen (for lack of a better term)
[20:00] <izzyb> hmm, yeah, this sounds like an nfs issue.
[20:00] <MrKennie> ubottu has a url for it but I don't know the keyword :/
[20:00] <izzyb> k, then try restarting nfs on the server
[20:00] <Twylight> same error MrKennie
[20:00] <MrKennie> !apt
[20:00] <Twylight> !dpkg
[20:00] <Twylight> that's f***ing useful
[20:01] <geek_> !fixapt
[20:01] <geek_> ;)
[20:01] <MrKennie> thre it is :)
[20:01] <geek_> that?
[20:02] <geek_> ouch...
[20:02]  * geek_ just read that intrepid has some major issues with intel wireless cards..
[20:02] <MrKennie> telling me
[20:02] <rickest> Twylight: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[20:03] <MrKennie> I reported one bug not that I can provide any useful info because debug option isn't working either
[20:03] <izzyb> JuJuBee, did that release the workstations?
[20:03] <Twylight> removing /var/lib/dpkg/lock does not sound like a good idea
[20:04] <Twylight> yet, it worked
[20:04] <Twylight> thank you rickest, you win the prize of most helpful
[20:05] <Twylight> thank you all for trying to help
[20:05] <MrKennie> I think you should run sudo dpkg --configure -a when doing that
[20:05] <rickest> you're welcome, it was the 1st hit of 29 THOUSAND google results.
[20:05] <JuJuBee> izzyb : no it did not release workstation.  I restarted nfs-kernel-server and then restarted the workstation and still same thing.
[20:05] <Twylight> unfortunately, I can run very little but the console itself on this laptop, it's very old
[20:06] <Twylight> internet searches don't really work
[20:06] <izzyb> JuJuBee, they hung right away?
[20:06] <Twylight> I could barely get pastebin working
[20:06] <MrKennie> there is a pastebin tool
[20:06] <Twylight> doesn't matter, it works now
[20:06] <MrKennie> pastebinit I believe
[20:07] <JuJuBee> izzyb : the login screen comes up with all the nis names but after I enter my username and password the computer hangs with the background from the login screen.
[20:07] <JuJuBee> All the nfs mounted homes are there.
[20:08] <JuJuBee> brb
[20:08] <izzyb> JuJuBee, interesting.  you can still access the terminal on ctrl-alt-f2 thought right?
[20:09]  * Twylight sighs
[20:09] <Twylight> !drama
[20:09] <izzyb> JuJuBee, all your workstations log in with different user ids right?
[20:12] <JuJuBee> izzyb : what do you mean workstations log in?
[20:13] <izzyb> when you login to the workstations are they all different users?
[20:17] <x_link> xmms isn't in hardy?
[20:17] <rickest> xmms was deprecated long ago
[20:18] <x_link> rickest: Okey, you know anything else that looks like xmms?
[20:18] <rickest> x_link: I'm not the one to ask really, but it seems amarok is one people prefer most.  it's more like iTunes than xmms, tho
[20:19] <x_link> I want something like xmms instead =)
[20:19] <rickest> I got nothin', sorry
[20:19] <rickest> maybe kaffeine
[20:20] <melkart> x_link: when you find it, i would like you to tell me about it...
[20:20] <melkart> x_link: i found audacious... but it is buggy, it couldnt play some of my mp3s
[20:20] <x_link> melkart: Alright, I will try it later then.
[20:20] <melkart> x_link: i keep a copy of an old *.deb-file of xmms1 around
[20:20] <philsf> x_link: what's wrong with xmms itself?
[20:21] <x_link> philsf: Nothing, I want to use it. But it's not in hardy.
[20:21] <melkart> from an older version of ubuntu or from some debian release, i dont know now
[20:21] <philsf> oh
[20:21] <philsf> unmaintained upstream?
[20:21] <x_link> philsf: That's the reason =)
[20:21] <izzyb> x_link, http://blog.sartek.net/2008/04/install-xmms-on-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron.html  <-- maybe that'll help?
[20:22] <melkart> izzyb: thanks a lot
[20:22] <JuJuBee> izzyb : server hung and I had to restart it.
[20:22] <izzyb> melkart, googles your friend :)
[20:23] <izzyb> JuJuBee, I'd try not mounting nfs on one of the workstations and see if it hangs
[20:23] <JuJuBee> izzyb : the no_subtree_check is default so it was being applied even though I did not specify it.
[20:23] <izzyb> JuJuBee, I'm just guessing this is nfs related, but that'd be the way to confirm
[20:23] <izzyb> it's also possible the double entry in exports was causing the problems so maybe no that the server has been rebooted it'll clear up?
[20:24] <shepherd_> i've installed steam onto wine.  when i goto launch steam it says its connecting then it connecnts but then it instantly closes help me please i need to play tf2 i'm having withdrawls
[20:24] <x_link> izzyb: Thanks man!
[20:24] <x_link> Will take a look at it soon.
[20:24] <JuJuBee> I will have to do that Monday.  When I move a users home to the workstation, what about the login?  Create an account locally for him ?
[20:25] <izzyb> x_link, np,  I didn't try it, just found it with google for you
[20:25] <izzyb> JuJuBee, no, still use nis for the login info
[20:25] <x_link> izzyb: I appreciate it alot. I really do! =)
[20:26] <x_link> izzyb: Will soon try it on my laptop, it's for my laptop anyway so =)
[20:26] <izzyb> x_link,  no problem.  I was surprised to hear it was missing also.  but then, I can't get sound working so I haven't been trying...
[20:26] <JuJuBee> izzyb :  Thanks.  I will try this on Monday.  I have to go pick up my daughter.  Thanks for your help.
[20:26] <izzyb> np
[20:26] <x_link> izzyb: Okey, why doesn't your sound work?
[20:26] <izzyb> I might be around monday when you try it so let me konw how it wrked out
[20:26] <x_link> My didn't work either on my new laptop. But I just fixed it.
[20:26] <izzyb> not sure.  that's three machines now that it doesn't work on :(
[20:27] <izzyb> and funny thing is, each of them had working sound at one point
[20:27] <cosmofield> x_link: is everything working now? :)
[20:27] <izzyb> I'm more then a little frustrated by the problem, but really, it's a low priority issue for me :)
[20:28] <izzyb> root -- you shouldn't irc as root.  very bad things will happen to you!
[20:31] <v6lur> hi. has anyone else problems with compiz fusion and kopete's balloon notification?
[20:31] <v6lur> (hardy, kde 3.5.10, cf 0.7.9 (git) )
[20:31] <shepherd_> is there a wine channel
[20:31] <v6lur> the balloon won't show up
[20:31] <Twylight> !wine
[20:31] <shepherd_> !wine
[20:31] <shepherd_> !wine
[20:31] <shepherd_> doens't work
[20:31] <v6lur> #wine or #winehq maybe
[20:32] <Tm_T> shepherd_: it did work
[20:32] <Twylight> what
[20:32] <Twylight> just happened
[20:32] <shepherd_> cool i got into it
[20:33] <shepherd_> i hope they can fix my problem
[20:33] <v6lur> so, kopete balloon notification and compiz fusion, anyone?
[20:34]  * Twylight implodes
[20:34] <Tm_T> v6lur: don't ask to ask, just ask, you never mentioned what kind of problem
[20:35] <v6lur> kopete's balloon notification won't show with compiz fusion in use
[20:35] <sorrosario> hola
[20:35] <v6lur> (hardy, kde 3.5.10, cf 0.7.9 (git) )
[20:35] <skole> Hi! I have a problem conecting to my wlan. It will not go past 57 % in the conection process. I have KDE 4.
[20:35] <sorrosario> necesito ayuda con kubuntu y una atheros ar2425
[20:35] <sorrosario> alguien puede ayudarme ???
[20:36] <v6lur> !es | sorrosario
[20:36] <sorrosario> ups sorry ...
[20:36] <sorrosario> i need help with a atheros 2425 on kubuntu 8.04 ???? some can help me ????
[20:38] <sorrosario> i try the follow the instruction on the madwifi.org site, and i installed the madwifi-hal the last version with svn
[20:38] <sorrosario> some idea ????
[20:39] <skole> Someone who knows how to fix a problem conecting to wireless? Knetwork manager won't go past 57 % in the conecting process
[20:40] <little> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router/Madwifi
[20:40] <little> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Madwifi
[20:40] <little> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManagerMadWifi
[20:41] <little> There are 73 pages available on wireless in the Ubuntu Community Documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Madwifi-ng_on_Macbook_Pro?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=wireless&titlesearch=Titles
[20:42] <sorrosario> yes i know, i read everything .... but i don't know why exist this error
[20:42] <sorrosario> i try to scan with iwlist ath0 scan
[20:42] <sorrosario> and the result is ath0      No scan results
[20:43] <sorrosario> and my router is here
[20:43] <little> What does ifconfig say?
[20:44] <sorrosario> say the normal
[20:44] <sorrosario> wifi0     no wireless extensions.
[20:44] <sorrosario> ath0      IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:""  Nickname:""
[20:44] <sorrosario> etc etc ..
[20:44] <sorrosario> but when intry tu put
[20:44] <sorrosario> iwconfig ath0 essid nameofmyrouter
[20:45] <little> Did you install the driver?
[20:45] <sorrosario> ath0      IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"nameofmyrouter"  Nickname:""
[20:45] <sorrosario>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.432 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated
[20:45] <sorrosario>           Bit Rate:0 kb/s   Tx-Power:16 dBm   Sensitivity=1/1
[20:45] <sorrosario>           Retry:off   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[20:45] <sorrosario>           Encryption key:off
[20:45] <sorrosario>           Power Management:off
[20:45] <sorrosario>           Link Quality=0/70  Signal level=-96 dBm  Noise level=-96 dBm
[20:45] <sorrosario> the link quality is "0"
[20:45] <little> I could be wrong, but my understanding is that you must have a wired connection to install the driver.
[20:45] <sorrosario> this is my problem
[20:45] <sorrosario> what ???
[20:46] <sorrosario> sorry i cant understand you ...
[20:46] <Tm_T> !paste
[20:46] <sorrosario> but the driver is installed now ....
[20:46] <sorrosario> ok
[20:47] <sorrosario> look this please
[20:47] <sorrosario> http://paste.ubuntu.com/51011/
[20:47] <sorrosario> the essid is real !!!!
[20:48] <sorrosario> the ath0 nic is up ... but it can't connect ....
[20:49] <sorrosario> sorry for my english it's terrible
[20:51] <little> http://www.newlinuxuser.com/howto-use-iwconfig/
[20:51] <sorrosario> http://paste.ubuntu.com/51013/
[20:51] <little> You are doing fine.
[20:51] <sorrosario> look my dmseg please
[20:51] <salvatore_> salveeeeeeeeeeee
[20:54] <skole> when I try to connect to my wireless network Knetwok manager stops at 57 %. What is the problem? I have istalles the correct driver
[20:54] <little> dmesg says the atheros is wifi0 not ath0.
[20:54] <sorrosario> yep
[20:55] <little> Can you change the file?
[20:55] <sorrosario> but wifi0 is generic
[20:55] <little> wifi0 is finding your atheros chip.
[20:55] <little> If you can change iwconfig, it might work.
[20:55] <sorrosario> but if you see in the http://paste.ubuntu.com/51011/
[20:55] <sorrosario> can see the iwconfig
[20:56] <little> Yes, and it says: wifi0     no wireless extensions.
[20:56] <sorrosario> yep
[20:56] <skole> when I try to connect to my wireless network Knetwok manager stops at 57 %. What is the problem? I have istalles the correct driver
[20:57] <sorrosario> some idea ????
[20:57] <little> Did you do this?
[20:57] <little> ifconfig wlan0 up
[20:57] <sorrosario> yes
[20:58] <sorrosario> and i try to do iwlist ath0 scan
[20:58] <sorrosario> and nothing ...
[20:58] <dr_willis> ive noticed that some specific wireless card chipsets.. often need 'special work'
[20:58] <little> I don't know about wireless. Whatever file you edit to tell Kubuntu what is on wireless0 and what is on ath0 is what you can try changing.
[20:58] <dr_willis> I would find out the exact wireless chipset. and check the forums/wiki pages also
[20:59] <little> The forums are down for some reason.
[21:00] <sorrosario> really i can't understand you very well
[21:00] <little> sorrosario: What language do you speak?
[21:02] <afeijo> hi folks
[21:03] <afeijo> I just installed Kubuntu here at office :D :D
[21:03] <little> sorrosario: What is in /etc/network/interfaces?
[21:03] <afeijo> I need some help, how to enable my second video?
[21:03] <sorrosario> nothing
[21:03] <skole> I have a prolbem connecting with my wireless. In knetwork manger it says that Device is: Unknown Unknown (wlan0)
[21:03] <little> afeijo: Congratulations! I hope they love it there. (:
[21:03] <dr_willis> 2nd video card? 2nd monitor on a video card? What chipset video card.....
[21:03] <afeijo> little: I use it at home for a few month already
[21:03] <little> There should be something in the file.
[21:03] <sorrosario> just try to probe with iconfig or ifconfig.... why ????
[21:03] <afeijo> dr_willis: 2nd monitor on a video card
[21:03] <little> afeijo: Isn't it wonderful?
[21:03] <afeijo> little: kde4 is builtifull
[21:04] <afeijo> cant remember what video card I have, bah
[21:04] <dr_willis> for nvidia - use the 'sudo nvidia-settings' tool and enable twinview. save xorg.conf, restart X server. and  it should use the 2nd monitor.
[21:04] <dr_willis> for others then nvidia - no idea. :)
[21:04] <sorrosario> ok i need a reboot now
[21:04] <little> sorrosario: What do you get if you type:         cat /etc/network/interfaces
[21:05] <sorrosario> thank you little
[21:05] <afeijo> I dont have nvidia-settings
[21:05] <dr_willis> install it then
[21:05] <sorrosario> auto lo
[21:05] <dr_willis> IF you have an nvidia card
[21:05] <little> sorrosario: Good luck!
[21:05] <sorrosario> iface lo inet loopback
[21:05] <sorrosario> no more ....
[21:05] <afeijo> how to make sure it is nvidia?
[21:05] <dr_willis> afeijo,  no idea.. i dont have esp. :) Look in the case?>
[21:05] <sorrosario> thank you little
[21:05] <m_tadeu> afeijo: lspci | grep VGA
[21:05] <dr_willis> lspci perhaps will tell also
[21:05] <skole> when I try to connect to my wireless network Knetwok manager stops at 57 %. What is the problem? I have istalles the correct driver
[21:05] <little> sorrosario: http://www.newlinuxuser.com/howto-bringing-up-wireless-cards-continued/
[21:06] <afeijo> thanks m_tadeu
[21:06] <little> sorossario: http://www.newlinuxuser.com/howto-use-iwconfig/
[21:06] <afeijo> it is nvidia! how to install?
[21:06] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[21:06] <sorrosario> ok
[21:06] <skole> I have a prolbem connecting with my wireless. In knetwork manger it says that Device is: Unknown Unknown (wlan0)
[21:06] <dr_willis> install the proper nvidia drivers first. - that may grab the nvidia-settings tool
[21:06] <m_tadeu> afeijo: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[21:07] <dr_willis> I think nvidia-settings may be part of the nvidia-glx drivers now.. or perhaps not...
[21:07] <little> dr_willis: It is. (:
[21:07] <dr_willis> wont do much good to install it - if he dosent have the nvidia drivers installed
[21:07] <afeijo> ops, "The control display is undefined"
[21:07] <dr_willis> install the proper nvidia drivers first. reboot, play with nvidia-settings :)
[21:07] <afeijo> when I installed, it show me a screen to install a driver, I did and reboot, now it worse lol
[21:08] <little> afeijo: If you go into KDE menu > System, do you have an NVIDIA X Server Settings entry?
[21:09] <afeijo> yes
[21:09] <afeijo> GeForce 8500 GT
[21:09] <little> Have you tried changing the settings in there?
[21:10] <afeijo> X Screen 0, no 1 :(
[21:10] <afeijo> not yet
[21:10] <afeijo> my second display is disabled, I will try to enable it
[21:11] <afeijo> to restart X, it will close all apps?
[21:11] <afeijo> its ctrl alt backsp?
[21:11] <m_tadeu> afeijo: yes, yes
[21:11] <skole> I have a prolbem connecting with my wireless. In knetwork manger it says that Device is: Unknown Unknown (wlan0)
[21:11] <luiz> ola
[21:11]  * afeijo will be back (tm Arnold)
[21:12] <skole> Knetwork manager can't seem to go past 57% in the connection process
[21:13] <favro> !wifi | skole
[21:13] <dr_willis> sounds like it may not have the proper drivers for the wireless card. or the drivers are not  correct for the card
[21:14] <dr_willis> bbl
[21:14] <skole> But it installed the driver when I upgraded to 8.04 KDE 4
[21:16] <afeijo> x restarted, second display still disabled... full reboot?
[21:17] <m_tadeu> afeijo: shouln't be necessary
[21:17] <m_tadeu> did you see the nvidia logo when x starts?
[21:17] <afeijo> ops: Cannot Apply, wait
[21:17] <afeijo> I need xinerama?
[21:18] <m_tadeu> afeijo: if you want to...you can use 2 separate screens
[21:18] <afeijo> nvidia settings couldnt save on xorg.conf, how to run it as root?
[21:18] <m_tadeu> afeijo: kdesudo nvidia-settings
[21:19] <afeijo> yeah, now it saved
[21:19] <afeijo> restarting X
[21:22] <afeijo> some progress
[21:22] <afeijo> the other screen now shows an black + white background, mouse moves, but no usability lol
[21:24] <afeijo> any idea? only mouse goes to the second screen
[21:25] <m_tadeu> afeijo: do you have separate x screens configured in nvidia-settings?
[21:25] <afeijo> m_tadeu: yes
[21:25] <skole> How to find out if I have the right driver for my wifi card?
[21:26] <m_tadeu> afeijo: right click works?
[21:26] <afeijo> on the second screen? no, just cursor moves
[21:27] <m_tadeu> afeijo: kida weird :P
[21:27] <afeijo> yeah
[21:28] <m_tadeu> afeijo: the screen configs all all ok in nvisia-settings? did it get the right resolution, name, etc?
[21:29] <afeijo> both 1440x900
[21:29] <afeijo> on inverted position, I changed that, but didnt restart yet
[21:29] <m_tadeu> afeijo: what about the refresh rate?
[21:30] <m_tadeu> afeijo: well if you have a cursor, ust be right :P
[21:30] <afeijo> its on auto refresh rate, should I change to 70hz?
[21:30] <afeijo> 75hz
[21:31] <afeijo> ?? "• MetaMode 2 of Screen 1 is the same as MetaMode 1.  All MetaModes must be unique."
[21:31] <m_tadeu> afeijo: guess that if you can see the mouse cursor, must be good
[21:31] <afeijo> so weird
[21:32] <m_tadeu> afeijo: maybe kde settings are messed up
[21:32] <m_tadeu> try to go to systemsettings and check the screen stuff
[21:33] <afeijo> when I click on Screen icon, screens changed to black, than back to current state
[21:33] <afeijo> on the systemsetings screen, just default, dont show the second screen
[21:34] <m_tadeu> afeijo: are you using kde4?
[21:34] <afeijo> yes
[21:35] <m_tadeu> afeijo: plasma doesn't support dual heads yet
[21:35] <afeijo> what!!? :(
[21:35] <afeijo> so I need to install kde3
[21:35] <afeijo> how to?
[21:36] <m_tadeu> afeijo: mm...there must be a metapackage for that...don't know which
[21:37] <afeijo> damn
[21:40] <afeijo> damn, I remove wrong panel on taskbar
[21:41] <afeijo> how to restore it? lol, I cant see my open apps
[21:42] <skole> how to find out what wireless card I have and what driver I need?
[21:43] <m_tadeu> afeijo: click on the top-right...the you can add the panel again
[21:44] <cosmofield> skole:  sudo lshw -class network <-- show ethernet cards
[21:44] <kermit__> hello, My Amarok can't play the radio, what should I apt-get install?
[21:44] <afeijo> whats is it call on the add list?
[21:44] <afeijo> found it
[21:44] <clau30> hi. my flash player doesn't work any more in firefox.. is there any fix for it?
[21:45] <genii> cosmofield: The catch-22 there can be: if an unrecognised device without driver how can it classify it as belonging to network?
[21:45] <clau30> !flash
[21:45] <afeijo> hmmmmmm, it enter on the right, pushing clock to the left :(
[21:45] <afeijo> !wifi
[21:45] <clau30> hmm.. that doesn't help
[21:49] <afeijo> what font do you guys prefer on firefox?
[21:56] <skole> I have the Broadcom BCM 4318 wireless card. In the ubuntu docs it says that I should use ndiswrapper. How to do that? What is that? The docs for that specific card is not listet in the documentation. Txs!
[21:57] <clau30> !ndiswrapper
[21:57] <clau30> skole: ^^
[22:19] <jdpond_> System->Users and Groups "unlock" button hidden.  Have tried sudo and sudo -s
[22:20] <jdpond_> No problem using command line (bash) adduser
[22:21] <aziz_> so what's available for Linux to communicate via audio with a Windows user? I looked at OpenWengo, but accounts can't be created atm, and I'm not sure if I need a VOIP app just to voice chat with my friends...
[22:22] <rickest> teamspeak, skype
[22:22] <jussi01> !skype
[22:27] <afeijo> how can I configure keyboard shortcut to apps
[22:27] <afeijo> ?
[22:29] <favro> !shortcuts
[22:29] <favro> afeijo: ^^
[22:29] <afeijo> thanks!
[22:29] <favro> np :)
[22:30] <afeijo> and how to add another language? I have only 2
[22:31] <favro> !keyboard
[22:31] <afeijo> not keyboard, full kde language
[22:31] <afeijo> !langugae
[22:31] <afeijo> !language
[22:31] <afeijo> lol
[22:31] <favro> I wouldn't know about that...
[22:31] <afeijo> system - region and language ?
[22:32] <favro> you could try there
[22:32] <afeijo> yeah, my language isnt there :)
[22:32] <afeijo> its have portuguese (PT) I want portuguese BR, lol
[22:33] <favro> afeijo: there is a brazilian chat for ubuntu
[22:33] <favro> !pt
[22:33] <afeijo> thanks
[22:36] <skole> after I have got fwcutter for my wireless card... what to do? Knetwork manager still doesn't recognize my device
[22:38] <Ayabara> anyone know how I can uninstall kde4.1 from my system?
[22:39] <jack> you must add special repository
[22:39] <Ayabara> jack: to remove it?
[22:40] <Davaid> hello, can anyone give me a link which shows how to install kubuntu from hard-disk? I can't find the vmlinux and intird.gz file on the iso file
[22:40] <jack> @ayabara sorry i misunderstood
[22:41] <Ayabara> jack: no problem :)
[22:41] <Ayabara> I installed using the special repo, but for now I want to go back to kde3 and remove all kde4-packages
[22:42] <jack> try this in a console: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[22:43] <Ayabara> jack: that doesn't remove much of the packages
[22:44] <Davaid> jack, how about KDE4.1? Is it stable?Why you don't use it?
[22:44] <jack> too much bugs, lack of programs
[22:45] <Davaid> Oh,No! I'm installing it now!
[22:46] <jack> dont be scared, many use it daily and are happy with it
[22:47] <jack> but i think you should wait Intrepid Ibex, it will be shipped with it
[22:49] <Davaid> Maybe I should try to use it. what's your meaning of "be shipped with it"? Is it so large?
[22:50] <skole> after I have got fwcutter for my wireless card... what to do? Knetwork manager still doesn't recognize my device
[22:51] <Davaid> I see. It looks terriable, Ha
[22:53] <jack> kde4 is sexy
[22:54] <Davaid> sexy? Hehe, so Funny your words are!
[22:54] <jack> :)
[22:55] <afeijo> kind of sexy, yeah
[22:56] <skole> after I have got fwcutter for my wireless card... what to do? Knetwork manager still doesn't recognize my device
[22:56] <favro> !repeat | skole
[23:08] <Mrpillow> is kde 4.1.1 in kubuntu?
[23:15] <itsatrick> Is anyone else having a problem with "Taskbar Compiz"? I keep wanting to show windows ONLY from the current desktop, but it lists the windows from ALL desktops.  There's no option in the configuration to change this.
[23:15] <afeijo> how can my linux find the computers in my local network? I have a windows domain
[23:16] <favro> !samba | afeijo
[23:16] <afeijo> samba isnt a server?
[23:17] <eagles0513875> afeijo: ya it is lol
[23:17] <afeijo> so I dont need a new domain controler, just to use my current one, my linux is a station
[23:17] <eagles0513875> ya
[23:19] <Denise> love it
[23:20] <suleyman> hi all
[23:20] <suleyman> i need so fast help
[23:20] <suleyman> someone can help?
[23:21] <bdizzle> ask and we'll see
[23:21] <bdizzle> depends on what people know in here
[23:21] <suleyman> i have problems about graphich card driver
[23:21] <suleyman> its
[23:21] <bdizzle> !nvidia
[23:21] <suleyman> Ati radeon HD 3850
[23:21] <suleyman> ahhh
[23:22] <suleyman> i did all whats writing there
[23:22] <suleyman> all is looking normal
[23:22] <bdizzle> hmm, i dunno
[23:22] <suleyman> but when i close computer or restart again
[23:22] <suleyman> then system doesnt open
[23:23] <bdizzle> graphics cards are still rough on the edges for linux due to properietary cards
[23:23] <suleyman> when the password screen comes then the screen going to dark
[23:23] <bdizzle> does anyone know how to get streaming TV on linux? mplayer keeps failing when I open a site that uses it
[23:23] <itsatrick> Is anyone else having a problem with "Taskbar Compiz"? I keep wanting to show windows ONLY from the current desktop, but it lists the windows from ALL desktops.  There's no option in the configuration to change this.
[23:25] <Denise> anger
[23:26] <gwildor> anger leads to hate
[23:27] <Denise> yes
[23:27] <Denise> you want my hate?
[23:27] <favro> !ot
[23:28] <gwildor>  bdizzle, do you have required codecs?
[23:29] <bdizzle> run through the list and I'll check
[23:29] <bdizzle> sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't
[23:29] <gwildor> different sites work?.... or different streams?
[23:30] <gwildor> lets say.... WMV streams work.... real stream dont.... you need realplayer codec
[23:31] <Black_Monkey> hi, I just updated Firefox, and it's giving me an error about incompatible GRE, and won't run
[23:33] <Denise> good news
[23:38] <bdizzle> w32codecs would help, wouldnt it?
[23:38] <gwildor> wouldnt hurt....might solve it
[23:42] <cosmofield> Is it possible to redirect the result from a command directly to the clipboard in KDE?
[23:43] <eagles0513875> !bind
[23:44] <eagles0513875> !dns
[23:48] <eagles0513875> can any 1 help me setup dns on my server
[23:48] <bodom> hello
[23:48] <eagles0513875> !hi | bodom
[23:53] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[23:53] <ForgeAus> uh I'm a little concerned here
[23:53] <eagles0513875> ForgeAus: ask your question
[23:54] <ForgeAus> sorry just prepping.... um, I have a disk and it complains Large_File support or something (I'll give you the exact error when it comes back up)... anyway that flag isn't set...
[23:56] <ForgeAus> and (unsuprisingly) there must be a few large files on it, now fsck asks me if I want to fix that, but my question is does it fix that by setting the large file support flag? or does it keep the large file support flag as is and mince up the large files?
[23:56] <eagles0513875> ForgeAus: i cant help you there im not sure
[23:56] <ForgeAus> ohhh kay
[23:58] <eagles0513875> sry