[02:57] <woli> can somebody point me in the right direction for developing a panel application?
[05:50] <LinuxWizar1> question on live cds........
[05:51] <LinuxWizar1> put a live "cd" on a flash drive... any way of updating it?
[05:52] <LinuxWizar1> i would like it to be persistant
[09:25] <huats> hello everyone
[09:25] <huats> and good morning
[09:38] <mvo> does anyone else has three batteries in his gnome-power-manager applet?
[09:41] <crevette> mvo, I seen such bug in bugzilla
[09:41] <crevette> or perhaps it was you already
[09:41] <crevette> (hello by the way)
[09:42] <lool> mvo: There was an old bug where I'd get a new battery after each suspend/resume cycle :)
[09:43] <lool> Didn't see enough suspend/resume success rate to see this bug though
[09:49] <mvo> hello crevette and lool!
[09:49] <mvo> hm, I will keep an eye on it and if its still there after rebooting I have a word with ted
[09:51] <huats> hello seb128
[09:51] <huats> and mvo and crevette :)
[09:51] <seb128> lut huats
[09:52] <mvo> hey huats and seb128!
[09:52] <seb128> hello mvo!
[09:53] <didrocks> seb128: hi!
[09:53] <seb128> hey didrocks
[09:57] <lool> Bah I keep missing the 2 minutes seb128 windows
[09:58] <lool> Hey mvo!
[09:59] <lool> hey seb128
[09:59] <seb128> hello lool
[09:59] <didrocks> seb128: I have done yesterday night the work on gnome-volume-manager (bug #274515). We will wait for the end of the beta freeze, I reckon
[09:59] <lool> seb128: I pushed the mm updates to Debian except for libxml++; it had a lintian error
[10:00] <lool> manphiz will look into it in some hours I expect
[10:00] <lool> seb128: So you can sync the rest
[10:01] <seb128> lool: thanks, I'll ask for freeze exceptions before because I think syncs are accepted directly
[10:01] <seb128> didrocks: you can still subscribe the sponsor team so it can be sponsored and stay in NEW until being unfrozen
[10:02] <didrocks> seb128: already done :)
[10:02] <seb128> ok good
[10:04] <crevette> salut huats
[10:09] <mvo> hey lool
[11:07] <huats> vuntz: ping me once you are back :)
[11:07] <huats> (and that you have enjoyed your train trip)
[11:07] <huats> :)
[11:41] <seb128> mvo: bug #272280 is for you
[11:41] <mvo> seb128: ok,I have a look
[12:09] <ash129> hi to all
[12:10] <ash129> hi i'm having problems in installing ubuntu desktop is this the right place to ask question
[12:11] <ash129> anybody here
[12:45] <vuntz> huats: pong
[12:46] <huats> hey vuntz :)
[12:47] <Ng> what happened to the Current Session tab in the Session preferences?
[12:47] <Ng> (in 2.24, that is. someone is asking me why he can't disable gnome-panel anymore)
[13:14] <vuntz> seb128: pong for last night
[13:15] <seb128> hey vuntz
[13:15] <seb128> vuntz: I wanted somebody on !ubuntu to try gnome bug #553852 which turns not not be a bug but a design decision
[13:18] <vuntz> good to see you don't need me :-)
[14:11] <fta> seb128, cairo 1.8.0 is out, they dropped the lcd-filter
[14:12] <fta> seb128, bad quality code, also breaking the test suite
[14:12] <seb128> right, I read the discussion they were having on the channel yesterday
[14:13] <seb128> Keybuk: read that?
[14:14] <seb128> intrepid is frozen for beta now, I guess we will want to update to 1.8.0 adding the patch again after that
[14:16] <fta> seb128, we have two options, a/ keep the patch from 1.7.6 or b/ resurrect the patch we had before 1.7.4 which apparently worked better for most.
[14:21] <fta> seb128, we have two options, a/ keep the patch from 1.7.6 or b/ resurrect the patch we had before 1.7.4 which apparently worked better for most.
[14:22] <seb128> why was it working better?
[14:22] <seb128> I will let Keybuk comment on that
[14:33] <Keybuk> does the 1.7.4 patch still apply?
[15:06] <fta> Keybuk, probably not, there's the huge legacy vs default change, a lot of reformatting, and some code changes (which i suspect are the cause for the difference we see)
[15:07] <lool> seb128: You can grab libxml++ from incoming in some minutes
[15:09] <fta> seb128, i'm having a problem with python-gnome2-extras-dev => Depends: python-gnome2-extras (>= 2.19.1-0ubuntu8) but it is not going to be installed
[15:14] <lool> seb128: I guess you didn't want to sync glib 2.16 as it would bypass upload checks?
[15:46] <lool> james_w: You around?
[15:46] <james_w> hey lool
[16:22] <seb128> fta: fixed in -0ubuntu9
[16:23] <seb128> lool: glib 2.16? we have 2.18
[16:23] <seb128> lool: oh you mean as a sru
[16:24] <lool> yeah
[16:24] <seb128> lool: we never really discussed syncs for stable updates
[16:25] <seb128> lool: that's probably possible technically but I don't know how to send things to unapproved, syncing bypass the queue usually
[16:25] <lool> seb128: Ok, that's what I guessed
[16:26] <seb128> lool: probably something worth looking at, but so much to do ... I took the easiest option ;-)
[16:26] <seb128> we don't often have the case anyway
[16:34] <huats> seb128: i have grab the new gnome-build from the svn repo
[16:34] <huats> I am surprised, they are using a substvars file ....
[16:34] <huats> (which was not the case in the previous package)
[16:36] <huats> and they have not update the minimum requirements for some of the dependency (by instance the still say libgdl-1-dev (>= 0.7.0) while the configure ask for > 2.23.0
[16:36] <huats> :(
[16:36] <seb128> to do what?
[16:36] <seb128> huats: maybe join #gnome-debian on gimpnet
[16:37] <huats> seb128: I am on my way :)
[17:10] <fta> seb128, -0ubuntu9 ftbfed, but i guess you already know
[17:10] <seb128> fta: yes, I asked on #ubuntu-x about xvfb but didn't get a reply
[17:11] <fta> ok
[17:12] <pochu> is everybody's sound working? mine doesn't since last reboot
[17:12] <pochu> ** Message: Error: Failed to connect stream: Invalid argument
[17:12] <pochu> pulsesink.c(487): gst_pulsesink_prepare (): /play/abin/audiosinkbin/audio-sink/bin4/autoaudiosink1/autoaudiosink1-actual-sink-pulse
[17:12] <pochu> that's when playing an mp3 file in totem
[17:12] <pochu> rhythmbox doesn't work either
[17:13] <pochu> but the startup sound works...
[17:13] <pochu> I wonder if that's alsa being broken?
[17:13] <pochu> 'couse the startup sound is esd, right?
[17:13] <pochu> flash doesn't work either...
[17:14] <seb128> pochu: try not using pulseaudio and see if you still get the issue
[17:17] <mvo> asac: I got this nice "restart fixfox" box inside ff now, but when I press it, ff just died and did not restart - known issue?
[17:21] <pochu> seb128: from system->preferences->sound->sound playback, selecting alsa and clicking on test doesn't work (error dialog), but it works with oss
[17:21] <pochu> pulseaudio and autodetect and others don't work either
[17:24] <seb128> pochu: does aplay on a .wav works correctly?
[17:24]  * pochu looks for a wav file
[17:24] <pochu> nope
[17:24] <pochu> ALSA lib pcm_pulse.c:629:(pulse_prepare) PulseAudio: Unable to create stream: Invalid argument
[17:25] <seb128> pochu: try stopping pulseaudio to see if that makes a difference
[17:26] <pochu> yeah, I've killed it and it works now
[17:26] <pochu> Luke maintains it, right?
[17:26] <pochu> seb128: thanks
[17:26] <seb128> right
[17:26] <seb128> pochu: you can try the update listed on bug #274124
[17:27] <pochu> I'm on 2.6.27-3-generic
[17:27] <pochu> yeah, I can try it
[17:27] <seb128> pochu: I think the title is misleading, the issue is rather a pulseaudio one
[17:28] <pochu> seb128: yes
[17:28] <pochu> seb128: gonna try it
[17:32] <pochu> brb
[17:39] <pochu> seb128: no luck, I'll comment on the bug and downgrade PA
[17:39] <pochu> thanks again
[17:39] <seb128> pochu: you're welcome, makes sure it's fixed before intrepid
[17:40] <pochu> yeah, I'll target it for the release
[17:42] <pochu> seb128: can you approve the hardy task? bug 274124
[17:43] <seb128> pochu: hardy?
[17:45] <pochu> seb128: err, Intrepid, sorry
[17:45] <seb128> pochu: I'll let slangasek or themuso decide about that, if it's nominated it'll be listed for approval
[17:46] <pochu> fine
[18:05] <didrocks> seb128: if there is some stuffs to do waiting for the end of beta freeze, do not hesitate, once again :)
[18:05] <seb128> didrocks: ok will do, but now is almost weekend time ;-)
[18:06] <didrocks> seb128: yes, but I keep working, even in weekend, you know ;)
[18:06] <seb128> didrocks: I try to stop doing that ;-)
[18:06] <didrocks> my gf is very comprehensive
[18:06] <seb128> but that's because I spend my time on ubuntu during the week already
[18:07] <didrocks> seb128: yes, you are really lucky to be able to do that ;-p
[18:07] <didrocks> hope I will have the same, one day, too :)
[18:08] <pochu> seb128: do you forgot to update libgweather or was that on purpose? ;-)
[18:08] <pochu> seb128: I can update it
[18:08] <seb128> pochu: if you want to do it great, it was too much work I didn't manage to do it, didn't want to stop for hours on one tarball
[18:08] <pochu> sure
[18:08] <seb128> they added python bindings to the build
[18:08] <pochu> right
[18:08] <seb128> pochu: thanks ;-)
[18:08] <pochu> I was going to ask you if I enable them in the build
[18:09] <pochu> seb128: the NEWS file says the API is unstable
[18:09] <pochu> so I'm not sure
[18:09] <seb128> if you want to do it that would be nice
[18:09] <pochu> seb128: yw :)
[18:09] <pochu> seb128: ok, I enable them
[18:09] <pochu> seb128: and swfdec-gnome 2.24 updates to swfdec0.7 API, it it worth doing it?
[18:10] <pochu> I think that way we can remove swfdec0.6 from the archive
[18:10] <seb128> pochu: swfdec0.8 is in debian NEW, I was waiting on it to be accepted to sync
[18:10] <seb128> but NEW is slow again nowadays apparently
[18:11] <seb128> it's late for beta now so we will see after beta if they accepted it
[18:11] <pochu> seb128: we have swfdec0.7 in the archive so we can build swfdec-gnome against that, right?
[18:11] <pochu> but if you prefer to wait that's alright
[18:11] <didrocks> pochu: I am already one it and waiting for swfdec0.8 in debian NEW :)
[18:11] <didrocks> s/one/on
[18:11] <pochu> didrocks: oh, cool :-)
[18:12] <seb128> pochu: no, swfdec-gnome 2.24 requires swfdec0.8
[18:12]  * pochu does libgweather then
[18:12] <pochu> seb128: ok
[18:12] <didrocks> seb128: I look everyday for debian NEW. I will keep you in touch when it will be updated :)
[18:13] <pochu> (and yes, we can remove swfdec0.6 once that's done)
[18:13] <seb128> didrocks: thanks, I'm subscribes to debian-devel-changes so I'll likely notice it there
[18:13] <didrocks> so do I ^^
[18:15] <pochu> seb128: and gmime2.4 is for jaunty?
[18:15] <seb128> pochu: do we use this thing anywhere? I never looked at those updates but you can if you think that's useful
[18:15] <pochu> seb128: it's an API break release
[18:15] <pochu> so probably nothing uses it yet
[18:15] <pochu> I guess it can wait for Jaunty
[18:19] <seb128> pochu: right