[00:38] <bdmurray> kirkland: in case I haven't said it this month I love ubuntu documentation search
[00:38] <trashguy> ubuntu docs are on par with liek FreeBSDs hand book
[00:39] <trashguy> most documentation fails
[00:41] <ph8> i'm not sure i'd agree with that
[00:41] <trashguy> which aspect
[00:41] <flyback>  sgrover
[00:42] <ph8> what documentation fails?
[00:42] <flyback> ubunt 6.06.2 also known as uCUNTu 6.66
[00:42] <trashguy> u ever read a netware manuel
[00:46] <slangasek> flyback: you again?
[00:46] <flyback> yeah
[00:46] <slangasek> !ops
[00:46] <flyback> ubottu, what the canuck is your problem
[00:47] <flyback> ubottu, botsnack
[00:47] <flyback> :)
[00:47]  * flyback feels better
[00:47] <trashguy> lol
[00:47] <trashguy> i ran redhat forever
[00:48] <trashguy> fedora is just not useable anymore
[00:48] <flyback> me too
[00:48] <slangasek> infinity, mathiaz: ping
[00:48] <flyback> f9 has pissed me off beyond reasoning
[00:48] <trashguy> yes
[00:48] <flyback> this box is getting hosed soon
[00:48] <mathiaz> slangasek: hello
[00:48] <trashguy> i since migrated my desktop to ubuntu
[00:48] <flyback> at least uCUNTu actually runs shit like vmware
[00:48] <trashguy> and i been pushign a zimbra migration atw ork
[00:48] <trashguy> and its not so nice with FreeBSD so i had to find an alternative
[00:48] <slangasek> mathiaz: note flyback's comments; he's been asked before to behave himself in other channels
[00:50] <flyback> i'm bitter when I been burned by crappy products
[00:51] <nalioth> let us be civil
[00:51] <slangasek> that's hardly an excuse for repeated use of inappropriate language
[00:51] <infinity> flyback: Please watch the language.
[00:52] <flyback> ok
[00:52]  * trashguy didnt notice anything
[00:52] <flyback> fair enough there
[00:54] <trashguy> only issue i have had with ubuntu so far
[00:54] <trashguy> had to make a bunch of symbolic links ot get veritas netbackup to work
[01:05] <hotmonkeyluv> How can I configure the network interfaces after installation?
[01:08] <lukehasnoname>  /etc/network/interfaces
[01:11] <Stainer> anyone familiar with setting up a safe host to use a mailserver when you have a dynamic ip address?
[01:19] <hotmonkeyluv> lukehasnoname:  thanks!
[01:22] <hotmonkeyluv> lukehasnoname:  hmmm, didn't seem to work
[01:22] <hotmonkeyluv> says command not found
[01:23] <slangasek> that's a file to edit, not a command
[01:26] <hotmonkeyluv> ah
[01:26] <hotmonkeyluv> i, uh... I knew that...
[01:52] <flyback> interfaces and also iftab in 6.06 if you are doing disk clones
[01:52]  * flyback bites jkakar 
[01:52] <flyback> CANUCK
[01:52] <flyback> CANUCK
[01:52] <flyback> CANUCK
[01:52] <flyback> CANUCK
[01:53] <jkakar> Uh.  Hi.
[01:54] <flyback> that's for william shatner's greatest hits and other canadian acts of terrorism
[03:17] <randomlogic78> I would like to prevent users from logging in via ssh and allow only users in a particular group.  I've edited /etc/ssh/sshd_config  and added the line "AllowGroups groupname" but any user can still ssh
[03:27] <Deeps> randomlogic78: man page suggests that default is to allow all, so maybe you need a deny all rule first?
[03:27] <Deeps> (man sshd_config)
[03:30] <randomlogic78> thanks... deny all didn't work... but it turned out I was editing ssh_config instead of sshd_config
[05:04]  * the_silent wb all
[05:04] <the_silent> an one can help me?
[05:06] <flyback> with?
[05:08] <the_silent> i have some problem bro
[05:08] <the_silent> iwant built new server wit ubuntu 8
[05:08] <flyback> go on
[05:08] <the_silent> i mean ubuntu server
[05:08] <the_silent> hmm the problem is
[05:09] <flyback> you are canadian?
[05:09] <the_silent> iwant copy old ubuntu server on new harware
[05:09]  * the_silent no
[05:09] <flyback> that was a joke
[05:09] <the_silent> iam from indonesia
 hmm the problem is
 you are canadian?
[05:09] <the_silent> whatt
[05:09] <the_silent> nope
[05:09] <the_silent> i have bad english
[05:09]  * the_silent sorry
[05:09] <flyback> it was a bad joke :P
[05:09] <flyback> sorry :P
[05:09] <flyback> hmm
[05:09] <the_silent> so can u help
[05:09] <the_silent> me
[05:09] <flyback> there are tools to clone linux
[05:09] <the_silent> ok
[05:09] <flyback> ghost4unix
[05:09] <the_silent> wahat its is
[05:09] <flyback> clonezilla
[05:10] <the_silent> hm
[05:10] <the_silent> ok
[05:10] <flyback> I have not used those yet though
[05:10] <flyback> so I dunno how well they work
[05:10] <flyback> sorry
[05:11] <the_silent> on not problem
[05:11]  * the_silent thanks bro
[05:11] <the_silent> xixixix
[05:11] <the_silent> oh yeah
[05:11] <flyback> http://www.clonezilla.org/
[05:11] <the_silent> one more again
[05:11] <kgoetz> mondo rescue
[05:11] <flyback> http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/
[05:11] <flyback> http://www.clonezilla.org/
[05:12] <the_silent> can u tell me how to install new driver on ubuntu server after i cloned
[05:12]  * the_silent iam newbei
[05:12] <the_silent> :)
[05:12] <kgoetz> the_silent: what driver
[05:12] <flyback> yeah I have not done that yet sorry
[05:15] <the_silent> o
[05:15] <the_silent> oo
[05:16] <the_silent> iwant built new server on intelmainboard xeon s5000sata server
[05:17] <the_silent> so can u tel me the tutorial about update driver mainboard
[05:17]  * the_silent :)
[05:18] <kgoetz> two options: all drivers are in the kernel. swap os -> eddit grub -> boot -> profit
[05:19] <kgoetz> 2nd option: you need to change something (eg, 32-> 64 bit) -> backup existins erver -> install clean on new server -> restore backup -> reconfigure new server -> profit
[05:19] <the_silent> hmmm
[05:19] <the_silent> nice
[05:19] <kgoetz> s/something/something major
[05:20] <the_silent> can u teell me where i can find this tutorian on website
[05:20] <the_silent> ???
[05:20] <kgoetz> to do what?
[05:20] <the_silent> find some tutorial
[05:20] <kgoetz> to do what?
[05:20] <the_silent> to update driver
[05:20] <the_silent> main board
[05:20] <kgoetz> do you need to update it?
[05:21] <the_silent> yes
[05:21] <the_silent> i mean update hardware
[05:21] <the_silent> not os
[05:21] <kgoetz> i dont follow
[05:21] <the_silent> coz the os was using from old main board
[05:22] <the_silent> use cloning
[05:22] <the_silent> like that
[05:22] <kgoetz> how do you know you'll need to update the driver?
[05:22] <the_silent> hmm
[05:23] <the_silent> i dont know
[05:23] <the_silent> i just scared
[05:23] <the_silent> if the hardware need driver from new mainboard
[05:24] <the_silent> oh i mean the u buntu server nedd driver from new mainboard
[05:24] <the_silent> sorry
[05:24] <the_silent> i have been confiuse
[05:24]  * the_silent :_(
[05:26] <kgoetz> :\
[05:27] <flyback> it might
[05:27] <kgoetz> the_silent: try a live cd with the reelease you want to copy over in the new server
[05:32] <the_silent> hmm
[05:32] <the_silent> i see
[05:32] <the_silent> so u mean is
[05:32] <the_silent> try live cd n then istall
[05:33] <the_silent> then copy setting old ubuntu server data on new server
[05:33] <the_silent> like that?
[05:33] <the_silent> or not
[05:36] <kgoetz> try the live cd
[05:36] <kgoetz> if it detects your hardware, it detected it
[05:38] <flyback> good luck the_silent
[05:38] <flyback> I am going out
[05:39] <the_silent> ok
[05:39] <the_silent> thanks very muck
[05:39] <flyback> you are welcome to come here any time :)
[05:39] <the_silent> ok
[05:39] <the_silent> iwell be
[05:39] <the_silent> :)
[05:39] <the_silent> have a nice day
[05:40] <flyback> you too
[05:44] <the_silent> :)
[06:34] <flyback> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.7621 <-- great logo for a battery
[07:09] <[Solaris]> I want to diagnose a problem i have with a raid 0 (has win installed on it) and all members are offline
[07:10] <[Solaris]> are there tools in ubuntu to allow me to investigate ?
[07:10] <[Solaris]> and possibility repair?
[07:15] <ropetin> [Solaris]: My initial feeling is no.  What happened though?
[07:17] <[Solaris]> had a faulty memory stick... but it screwed up my raid on a hard reset
[07:17] <[Solaris]> made all my sata disks go offline .. so i have no raid volume
[07:19] <ropetin> Striped or mirrored?
[07:19] <[Solaris]> raid0
[07:20] <slangasek> that would be entirely dependent on the details of your RAID implementation; Linux software RAID is definitely not compatible with any Windows software RAID
[07:20] <ropetin> Oh yeah, you said that, striped
[07:21] <ropetin> You're pretty much screwed I think.  If Windows doesn't recognize it
[07:21] <[Solaris]> heh windows doesn't even boot
[07:21] <slangasek> and if it's hardware RAID, you don't have any diagnostic access from the OS at all unless the controller can be set to a non-RAID mode
[07:21] <[Solaris]> so it won't see it
[07:21] <ropetin> Striped boot partition?
[07:21] <ropetin> Is that even possible?
[07:21] <[Solaris]> i thikn it got screwed up when i was playing the MBR with the faulty memmory
[07:24] <ropetin> I'm thinking screwed, yeah
[07:25] <[Solaris]> erm is there a tool that i can rewrite the mbr on the device (bios sees the drives) and maybe that wil lfix the issue?
[07:25] <ropetin> Is your boot partition striped?  (I didn't think Windows could do that)
[07:25] <[Solaris]> yea
[07:26] <[Solaris]> (atleast thats what i am thinking)
[07:26] <[Solaris]> was all raid0 disk except the hd3 which was a solitair drive
[07:29] <[Solaris]> erm there is a tool called mpt-status
[07:29] <[Solaris]> wonder if that would work
[07:30] <kgoetz> ropetin: yes, striped boot partition is posible
[07:33] <ropetin> kgoetz: Sounds veeeery risky without backup
[07:34] <kgoetz> ropetin: striped raid is *always* very risky.
[07:36] <[Solaris]> well looks like i am going have to destruck that drive
[07:36] <ropetin> True!
[07:37] <[Solaris]> so think i should step away from raid0 and use some other raid?
[07:38] <[Solaris]> perhaps go with a raid5 ?
[07:39] <kgoetz> [Solaris]: depends on your context
[07:39] <kgoetz> and backup habbits
[07:41] <[Solaris]> well i didn't even get a chance to backup the first time
[07:41] <[Solaris]> fresh install of both OS on a new system
[07:41] <[Solaris]> so destruction isn't bad, just a lose of a few hours
[07:45]  * delcoyote hi
[07:52] <[Solaris]> erm i can do a raid 0 0+1 1 and 5
[07:52] <[Solaris]> might even be able to do raid 2 (not sure yet)
[08:16] <_ruben> raid0 isnt even raid
[08:17] <kgoetz> valid point
[08:17] <_ruben> *Redundant* Array of Inexpensive Disks
[08:17]  * kgoetz isnt convinced the discs in his servers here are "Inexpensive"
[08:18] <_ruben> relatively speaking they are
[08:18] <_ruben> 450GB SAS disks are expensive .. but 2TB SAS disks (if they'd exist) would be much more expensive ... :p
[08:18] <kgoetz> relatively isnt very helpful - relative to you, i'm a long way away
[08:19] <_ruben> hehe ;)
[08:19] <kgoetz> _ruben: 750GB sas drives, lots of. 1TB sas drives, some of
[08:19] <[Solaris]> these are 400GB SATA drives LO
[08:19] <kgoetz>  cost ++
[08:19] <[Solaris]> so not all that expensive
[08:19] <_ruben> 750GB and 1TB sas disks already exist?
[08:20] <_ruben> (i dont monitor developments in that area that closely)
[08:20] <kgoetz> pretty sure they are sas. perhaps they are standard sata drives in hot-swap enclosures, but i'm prtty sure they are sas
[08:20] <_ruben> installed 3 servers with 6x450G sas disks the other day
[08:20] <_ruben> 750G and 1TB sounds rather sata'ish to me
[08:20]  * kgoetz cbf looking at the spec sheet right now
[08:20] <_ruben> sas and sata are interchangable ..
[08:21] <_ruben> :)
[08:21] <kgoetz> sort of :) sas can mean 'sa scsi' too
[08:22] <_ruben> sas = serial attached scsi .. which is a scsi disk with sata connector :)
[08:22] <kgoetz> _ruben: btw, i think your correct - the drives are probably sata
[08:22] <_ruben> thats what i meant with interchangable
[08:23] <kgoetz> aaah, my bad. misunderstanidng :)
[08:23] <kgoetz> *sp
[08:26] <_ruben> happens to the best of us :)
[08:27] <kgoetz> :)
[08:54] <kraut> moin
[09:09] <antdedyet> morn
[12:43] <Gestahlt> Hi
[12:43] <Gestahlt> is there a deb represitory for freePBX?
[13:06] <alien> hello, did canonical think about supporting openvz better, instead of just KVM?
[13:07] <alien> imho, openvz is much more suited to server usage than both kvm and xen, due to its low overhead
[13:08] <alien> and it supports most of the goodies that both xen and kvm support, like live migration
[13:14] <Koon> alien: you should ask that question in #ubuntu-virt
[13:15] <alien> thanks Koon
[14:04] <Gestahlt> uhm
[14:04] <Gestahlt> Is there a freeBPX deb package for ubuntu 8.04 server
[14:04] <Gestahlt> ?
[14:08] <ropetin> Not as far as I know, no
[14:17] <Gestahlt> damn
[14:20] <rgl> hello
[14:21] <ivoks> hi
[14:37] <rgl> I have a box with ubuntu edgy (6.10), and I want to upgrade it to latest 8.04.1.  I'm trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades , so I did use the old-releases.ubuntu.com repository and used the do-release-upgrade command, but it failed, can you look at http://dpaste.com/80688/ ? do you have any ideia how to fix this?   better yet, can't I just update my sources.list file and use apt-get dist-upgrade?
[14:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, you cant
[14:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> edgy isnt hosted on archive.u.c anymore - this error may be a bug in the upgrade tool, or some user error (i havent used it, i cant comment)
[14:41] <rgl> yes, its at old-releases.ubuntu.com
[14:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> which is clearly not where the upgrade thingy was trying to download from :)
[14:42] <rgl> so what should I do?
[14:42] <rgl> the correct output from the upgrade tool is at http://ruilopes.com/tmp/output.txt
[14:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> i guess you can hang around, perhaps someone with more experiance an help you
[14:45] <rgl> its kinda lame apt-get dist-upgrade does not work :(
[14:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> personally, i agree.
[14:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> i've not had to upgrade any ubuntu servers, so i cant comment on wether it works or not
[14:46] <rgl> oh well, my only other option is to install a fresh 8.04.1 and migrate stuff arround.
[14:49] <maswan> dist-upgrade might work just fine, but chances are that some new packages expected won't get pulled in, corner cases might get broken, etc, etc.
[14:54] <rgl> oh, I'm not finding the ubuntu support timeline thingy;  its the doc that mentioned the different support times, eg, edgy has 18 month support, LTS 5 years, etc.   do you known where is it?
[14:56] <rgl> ah found it at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/146 *G*
[14:56] <rgl> well, kinda of, that is only for stuff after 8.04
[14:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> perhaps a link off herehttp://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition
[14:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> perhaps a link off here http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition
[15:42] <frith> hello, can anyone point me in the right direction for dell omsa packages?
[15:42] <frith> that is if they exist
[15:45] <kaushal> hi
[15:46] <kaushal> how can i use upstart
[15:46] <kaushal> I have edited the files under /etc/event.d/
[15:47] <kaushal> what would be the next step
[15:52] <kaushal> when i run initctl reload it does not work
[15:57] <rgl> what do you mean kaushal ?
[15:58] <kaushal> rgl: it says invalid option
[15:58] <rgl> I still have no ideia what are you talking about
[16:01] <kaushal> rgl: I am talking about upstart init daemon
[16:03] <rgl> kaushal, eg. what did you do? and what you expected to happen?
[16:04] <rgl> kaushal, there an #upstart channel too
[16:13] <mathiaz> Koon: nagios3 seeded
[16:13] <Koon> mathiaz: kewl
[16:13] <mathiaz> kirkland: I've also added partman-auto-raid to the installer
[16:13] <kirkland> mathiaz: cool
[16:14] <mathiaz> kirkland: that means we'll be able to preseed raid installation to test boot from degraded RAID :D
[16:14] <Koon> mathiaz: i'll have some free time next week, if there is any area you want tested, let me know. Otherwise I'll do some generic bug triage/cleanup
[16:16] <kirkland> mathiaz: awesome!
[16:16] <kirkland> mathiaz: auto testing
[16:20] <mathiaz> Koon: ok - I'll keep this in mind.
[16:22] <rgl> this is so odd: apt-get --purge remove libusb-0.1-4  wants to remove: gnupg* libusb-0.1-4* ubuntu-keyring*  !!
[16:26] <RediXe> How would I go about keeping a directory on my server in sync with my a directory on my machine?
[16:26] <elventear> Hello. I am looking the netback.c file in the Xen Linux Kernel source. I got the Kernel Source from the repos but that file is missing. Anyone know a way that I can find the source that Ubuntu uses for that file?
[16:29] <zul> elventear: kernel.ubuntu.com
[16:30] <elventear> Thx
[16:31] <ivoks> git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-intrepid.git
[17:21] <Database> OK, I have a slight problem.
[17:22] <Database> When I try to change my domain name's A record to my server, the host's site responds that it must be an IP address. However, I can't supply one as I'm using No-IP because of my dynamic IP address.
[17:23] <mathiaz> Database: that's because you need define a CNAME instead of a A record
[17:23] <Database> Right, and I have done that.
[17:23] <Database> For www.
[17:24] <Database> I need the domain name without the www. as well.
[17:24] <mathiaz> Database: depending on you dns provider, you may not be able to set a CNAME for you domain name.
[17:25] <Database> I probably can't, then.
[17:25] <Database> So what are the consequences of that?
[17:26] <mathiaz> Database: people won't be able to access the website via domain.com, only via www.domain.com
[17:26] <Database> Bugger.
[17:26] <Database> That is bad.
[17:26] <Database> So there's no way around it?
[17:27] <mathiaz> Database: probably not - you should check with your dns provider.
[17:28] <Database> Alright, thank you.
[17:40] <lukehasnoname> I found a guy who wrote a web server in PHP
[17:46] <lorddarkpat_> I've been following http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/
[17:46] <lorddarkpat_> to set up  mail servre
[17:46] <lorddarkpat_> will it get me set up?
[18:00] <stoner> lorddarkpat_, im no expert, but looks like it does.. i personally used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer few weeks ago and it works
[18:03] <lorddarkpat_> thnks, stoner :)
[18:03] <lorddarkpat_> I'm also having DynDNS troubles
[18:03] <lorddarkpat_> apache is not working with it
[18:03] <lorddarkpat_> it should work
[18:06] <lorddarkpat_> thnks, stoner :)
[20:06] <\sh> does anyone work on ubuntu-server and heartbeat2+HA nfs cluster?
[20:08] <\sh> if so..don't trust all docs on the net, telling you to move the /var/lib/nfs/<whatever> dir on a drbd device...that's totally wrong and doesn't work..leave it where it is, and you are clean
[20:13] <lamont> jdstrand: 9.4.2.dfsg.P2-2 uploaded, thanks
[20:33] <jdstrand> lamont: ack
[20:59] <lamont> jdstrand: meh.  re-uploading
[21:06] <lamont> jdstrand: and accepted this time... helps to have the .orig.tar.gz file :-)
[21:06] <jdstrand> heh
[21:07] <jdstrand> lamont: I wasn't sure if LP was slow, so I was being patient :)
[21:09] <lamont> nah - it was me being a muppet