=== jesse_ is now known as Guest88347 [02:41] Anyone know how to get a LAMP server installed on xubuntu? how to get the components? [02:43] The components are the same for all systems. You can use synaptic Package Manager to install [02:43] Apache, MySql, and Php [02:43] okay... [02:44] all right.. [02:44] thanks [02:44] np [03:00] sup [03:16] can someone help me configure dual displays on a laptop? [03:46] \join #new2irc [03:46] oops [03:48] cystic850, whats the problem at all? your xubuntu isnt detecting both displays? [04:27] !app menu [04:27] Sorry, I don't know anything about app menu [04:27] !applications [04:27] Sorry, I don't know anything about applications [04:27] !menu [04:27] Sorry, I don't know anything about menu [04:27] how do i edit the apps dropdown menu? [04:28] nvm [05:44] R1cochet: are you still there? [06:34] http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.7621 <-- great logo for a battery [08:02] !fluxsmb [08:02] Sorry, I don't know anything about fluxsmb [08:03] What's the program called that does the network thingie? [08:03] Apparently not "fluxsmb" [08:03] !fusesmb [08:03] fusesmb is a tool that allows easy access to shared folders (smb) on a network. Links with more info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb [08:03] nvm [10:59] Hullo. I'm on a PC right now but I've got a laptop running Xubuntu (Hardy Heron) elsewhere, which I'm about to go visit. I've got a new usb wireless network adaptor for it (ZD1211B) and just want to be prepared in case it's not entirely straight forward... [11:00] Can anyone think of anything I particuarly need to keep in mind? [11:01] Gandhi, you could search google; it seems that a few people have had problems with it [11:01] knome : *nod* I am doing :) [11:01] I've never had any hiccups with it [11:02] I've got a-link usb thingie with zd1211 and it has been a true lifesaver [11:02] hmh [11:02] Myrtti : Glad to hear it. [11:04] So it should just plug n' play? I don't need to download anything extra, or fiddle with any terminal commands? [11:09] should be pretty much p'n'p [11:10] pay and pray? [11:20] ponce n' pants? [11:23] * Gandhi ponders the plethora of possible 'P's [13:25] i d/l xbunto to my pc and do i have to make somthing to like a boot disk to install on a new pc [13:26] If you downloads a file that ends in .iso, you have to burn the image to a cd [13:27] don't copy the file, make sure you select burn image or write image [13:27] ok [13:28] Then reboot with the cd in your drive and install Xubuntu from the cd [13:29] ok [13:57] charlie- disk image option right when i am buring the cd [13:57] Yes, that is right. [13:58] one other question is....ubunto as long as it has picked up the network card...North american cable internet should work fine [13:59] That's right. 8.04 works pretty good on that. If you have problems, ask here or on the mailing list [13:59] xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com [14:01] thanks a lot and have a great day...charlie [14:02] * charlie-tca nods :) [14:40] hi there [14:40] hello here [14:42] can anyone help me i have two Linux computers and only 1 printer, how can i share that printer from: Xubuntu to: Ubuntu? [14:43] robert22_, xubuntu is basically the same than ubuntu [14:44] robert22_, have you looked at the printer settings? [14:46] knome, Im very new with Xubuntu and Ubuntu is there a sharing option under printer settings? [14:47] robert22_, i suppose there is. i have no real experience on sharing printers in a unix network, and can't really even help as i don't have printer [14:47] robert22_, you could search ubuntuforums.org, if you're stuck, or visit #ubuntu [14:47] robert22_, there's usually more people online and available to help [14:48] knome, ok thx [14:48] yw [14:56] robert22_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers [15:09] odd-rationale. thanks I will get mutch use of that, ty very mutch [16:21] hi, i'm moving from windows to linux now. i used to use linux some time ago, and now i want to use it again [16:22] i work with programming and webdesign, used softwares as fireworks and dreamweaver [16:22] are there equivalents on linux xubuntu? [16:22] I don't get how my Norcent monitor is working on my old xorg.conf configurations. [16:23] I guess I should just accept it, no? [16:45] karlhx, http://tips.webdesign10.com/using-linux-for-web-design-and-development-ubuntu might help you [16:48] the post is from 2 years ago, but i'll read it anyway, hope all the softwares listed there are still being udpdated [16:48] thank you knome [16:48] most of them are, i think [16:49] knome: new gimp (dv version) is sweet [16:49] dev version [16:49] TheSheep, haven't tried and possibly will not [16:49] knome: moving away from linux? [16:49] TheSheep, no, but i have a PS license [16:49] I'm new to Ubuntu Linux and I am trying to play yahoo game pool online but when I log in it says... This game cannot be played using your current settings. Please, try the following: Check to make sure that java is enabled in your browser. (learn more) If you do not have java installed you may download it here. To learn more about java support for browsers, visit our help pages. I have tried to install java support b [16:49] knome: I didn't know there was PS for linux [16:50] TheSheep, there isn't [16:50] !java | pc_dude [16:50] pc_dude: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository [16:50] TheSheep, there is PS for VMWare Player for unix ;) [16:50] knome: but you still get the clumsy windows interface [16:50] well... [16:51] no can do always [16:51] imho, PS is superior to gimp [16:51] also PS works quite well with wine [16:51] I've tried to do this but am not sure I got it done or got it done correctly! [16:51] but wacom tablets need some more development before i can start using PS w/ wine [16:51] *wacom tablet drivers [16:52] knome: works well with gimp :) there is even hotplug now [16:52] TheSheep, the problem is not that they wouldn't *work at all* [16:52] TheSheep, but really, PS can handle all the features way better. [16:53] TheSheep, or to be more exact, windows drivers can handle ... better than linux drivers [16:54] knome: since they implemented smoothing, Im happy with the linux drivers [16:54] knome: maybe the problem is between linux and wine? [16:54] TheSheep, when was that? [16:54] knome: some year ago, I think [16:54] hmm.. [16:55] i might try it [16:55] anyway i'm happy with vmware mostly [16:57] I'm really allergic to windows user interface [16:57] ouchhh [16:57] those interface fonts hurt me [16:58] ok, much better now [17:00] installed my new monitor, and now thunar is so large I can't do anything with it. [17:01] I can't minimize it or anything. [17:01] alt+drag [17:02] worked like a charm. :) [17:02] TheSheep, doesn't seem to work so well [17:46] where is the config file for auto-mounting? [17:46] CppIsWeird, you probably mean /etc/fstab [17:47] no, thats not it, like when you plug in a memory card and it automatically sets that up [17:47] Can you restrict registered middle-clicks speed? [17:48] I mean for mouse event detection. [17:49] And maybe better talk about registered middle-click frequency. [18:27] hey [18:27] how can i see which partition is my ext2fs partition [18:27] hello everyones [18:27] im on live cd, and have xubuntu installed, but the live cd didnt load that [18:28] I choosed 'e' on linux entry into grup menu; the first voice appeared as root (hd0,3) but I saw that the ext2fs partition was into 2!!! [18:28] So I changed it into root(hd0,2) with 'e' option. [18:28] this guy doesnt explain where he saw [18:28] i'm italian so sorry for my english [18:28] I got a problem with xubuntu [18:29] I can't ping my gateway [18:29] xubuntu stay in a mixed lan [18:29] i also tried this grub> find /boot/grub/stage1 but get Error 15: File not found [18:30] when I ping 192.1968.0.1 it give me estination Host Unreachable [18:30] some tips? [18:31] blah, maybe i just try randomly [18:31] i go try -> [18:31] how to proced? [18:31] user6, what is your machine's IP address? [18:31] dhpc assigned [18:31] type ipconfig [18:31] it will tell you [18:32] command not found [18:32] sorry...ifconfig [18:32] strange [18:32] dhpc assign 192.168.0.190 [18:32] mask? [18:33] 255.255.255.0 [18:33] is correct for my lan [18:33] can the machine reach the internet? [18:33] no [18:33] it can't [18:33] wired or wireless? [18:34] wired [18:34] sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart [18:34] strange really? [18:34] ok [18:35] what do you get now? [18:35] umm [18:36] error while getting interface flags [18:36] no such device [18:36] is your wired ethernet card a pcmcia card? [18:36] may be that it dont recognize my ethernet card [18:36] this is a notebook [18:36] that is exactly why [18:36] integred [18:37] why? [18:37] did this work b4? [18:37] yes... but not with xubuntu [18:37] still few days ago [18:38] what did it work for? [18:38] it works with XP pro... i0ve canged HD [18:38] what does lspci tell you the lan card is? [18:38] internet connection goes well [18:39] ethernet controller Realteck semiconductor [18:40] is there a wifi card as well? [18:40] no [18:40] strange.... [18:40] really?? [18:40] :-) [18:40] ok....sudo mousepad /etc/network/interfaces [18:41] what lines do you have that start inet.... [18:41] iface....sorry [18:42] iface... al [18:42] all [18:42] auto lo [18:42] iface lo inet loopback [18:42] auto eth0 iface ath0 inet dhpc [18:42] ...eth1.. [18:42] same [18:42] eth2 [18:43] .... same... [18:43] ath0 [18:43] ... same [18:43] wlan0 [18:43] same [18:43] how many network cards you got???? [18:43] one [18:43] if i know [18:43] according to this file, you have 5 [18:43] there's only the ethernet entry [18:44] you guys think xubuntu would work ok on a p3 128 meg of ram (500 meg swap) > [18:44] ? [18:44] comment out all lines except.... [18:44] one momnet....ill pastebin.... [18:44] ok [18:46] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/50953/ [18:46] comment out everything else with # at the beginning of the line [18:47] then.... [18:47] sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart [18:47] and if that throws errors, reboot [18:48] nnull: you won't be able to use the livecd installer on 128. The livecd requires 192... You can use the alternate installer. You can trim things down to get it to run [18:48] !lowmwm | nnull [18:48] Sorry, I don't know anything about lowmwm [18:48] !lowmem | nnull [18:48] nnull: For installing on low memory systems, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements. [18:49] thankyou, i did use the alternate cd, but the same as all ubuntu installs ive done, it doesnt let me select any software it just installs ? [18:50] yes, it just installs. Once you are done installing you can use synaptic,, apt-get, aptitude or whatever to add or remove anything else... Of course you can also choose the 'expert' mode on the installer and then you get a lot of control [18:51] of course in the expert mode you probably will be asked far more questions then you really want to answer [18:52] vidd: ok done [18:52] zoredacheƺ ah [18:53] from the link u provided, it seems i should be running fluxbox instead of xfce, as its lighter? [18:53] it seems to be working fine in the therminal [18:53] hello [18:53] is anyone here? [18:53] vidd: [18:53] I have a question [18:54] nnull: I am not familar with flux. [18:54] the computer stay on lan for a second [18:54] then go out [18:54] harrihu: we are here... and you don't need to ask to ask questions... after all you just asked two. [18:54] lol [18:54] user6, what does ifconfig tell you now? [18:54] in xubuntu can i say.. turn off all X and just have a command line? [18:54] I cannot see the menues [18:55] how would i make it start as command line and if i wanted to use it for GUI i could type start xfce or something? [18:55] the ones that default to the top and bottom of the screen [18:55] nnull: sure. Of course xubuntu without gui is identical to ubuntu without a gui... [18:55] 2 voice ath0 [18:55] I moved them to the bottom so that they hide untill you mouse over them [18:55] zoredacheƺ cool how do i initiate the switching mate? [18:55] sorry [18:55] again [18:55] 2 voices [18:55] and now I cannot see them at all [18:55] eth0 [18:56] and lo [18:56] harrihu: try pressing 'alt-f2' then running 'xfce4-panel' [18:56] inet address eth0 [18:56] ahh k' [18:56] 192.168.0.190 [18:56] mas [18:56] k [18:56] 255.255.255.0 [18:56] ok...can you ping now? [18:56] lo is local [18:56] lo will always be local.... [18:56] no [18:57] hey thank you sooo much [18:57] nnull: you would set gdm to not start automatically, then you would run 'startxfce4' from a terminal when you want to start the gui [18:57] it means "loopback" [18:57] thats a huge help [18:57] Destination Hosto Unreachable [18:57] ok.... [18:57] ok [18:57] ko [18:58] now add lines 4&5 from my pastebin and set it to eth1 [18:58] zoredacheƺ awesome :D [18:58] so you have 3 networks....lo, eth0 and eth1 [18:58] ok [18:58] big help thx guys [18:58] while you are at it, add eth2 as well [18:59] olso eth2 [18:59] also [18:59] ?? [18:59] restarting the network will error out because you will be polling non-existint network interfaces....rebooting may be easier [18:59] yes [19:00] eth1 give me error [19:00] eth2 too [19:00] like so: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/50961/ [19:00] brb [19:01] i've done sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart [19:01] yes like this [19:03] uummmm tired buddy [19:03] ????????????????? [19:03] when you come in Italy you have a pizza paied [19:04] if you want to stop i understand you [19:05] it is terrible this case [19:05] i've notced a thing [19:05] when i've changed interfaces file [19:07] line look at this PC for one moment [19:13] vidd: see you buddy [19:13] i'm going to annoing some other [19:20] vidd: still here? [19:21] im back [19:21] sorry [19:21] im at work [19:21] i'm sorry [19:21] but i hanoticed a message [19:21] DHCPACK on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 [19:22] it don't end with 0 [19:22] does ifconfig connect any of the interfaces? [19:23] ifconfig give me 3 inet6 addr [19:23] with MAC address [19:24] present only eth0 and lo [19:25] pc is seen if i look at lan [19:25] but isn't recognized [19:26] you said your gateway is definently .0.1? [19:26] yes [19:27] set your interfaces as such: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/50973/ [19:27] this puts your laptop outside your router's DHCP range [19:28] remove the eth1 and eth2 interfaces [19:28] may i give a static configuration? [19:29] yes...use the one i specified first [19:31] any luck? [19:32] hmm. my eclipse froze. i chose end process from system monitor. the app still is visible on xfce. then i tried ps -aux | grep eclipse but nop.. not alive [19:32] how can i get rid of this annoying instance that is visible [19:33] so ... this configuration gives at notebook ip address 192.168.0.15 [19:33] yes [19:33] but the pc is entered like 192.168.0.190 [19:33] oh [19:33] sorry [19:33] they cant have the same IP [19:34] i've put this range from myself [19:34] instead of 15 [19:34] i have wrote 190 [19:34] the pc is entered for a second [19:34] with the notebook set this way, and you sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart [19:34] now is out [19:35] wait.... [19:36] Listening on LPF/eth0/00:0a:e4:42:ba:2c [19:37] Sending on LPF/eth0/00:0a:e4:42:ba:2c [19:37] is the PC you on now connected to that router? (gateway) [19:37] no [19:37] so the laptop and pc are NOT on the same network? [19:38] DHPCDISCOVER on Eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 inteval 4 [19:38] there should not be any DHCPDISCOVER.... [19:38] we set a static ip [19:38] DHCPOFFER from 192.168.0.1 [19:39] DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 [19:39] user6, STOP!!!! [19:39] DHCPACK from 192.168.0.1 [19:39] !paste user6 [19:39] Sorry, I don't know anything about paste user6 [19:40] bound to 192.168.0.190 -- renewal in 233 second [19:40] sorry [19:40] ... [19:40] !paste | user6 [19:40] user6: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [19:40] i was writing [19:40] i wasn't read your message [19:41] user6, check your /etc/network/interfaces [19:41] ok [19:41] make sure that there is only one iface eth0 line.... [19:42] and it set to static and not dhcp [19:42] without auto lo...? [19:42] ys [19:43] rstart? [19:44] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/50973/ [19:45] does your interfaces file match this? [19:45] setting apart empty lines ... it seems to be the same [19:48] don't surf... [19:50] what does ifconfig tell you the IP address is? [19:50] right [19:50] 192.168.0.15 [19:51] can you ping 192.168.0.1? [19:52] no [19:52] is the laptop connected to the same router as the computer you are on now? [19:53] yes is the same [19:53] is this computer linux or xp? [19:53] this is kubuntu [19:53] the notebook is xubuntu [19:53] on this computer, what does ifconfig tell you the gateway is? [19:55] give me paste bin [19:55] ? [19:56] on this machine, type ifconfig [19:56] ok [19:56] done [19:56] paste the info into http://pastebin.ubuntu.com [19:56] and post the link [19:57] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/50987/ [19:57] ifconfig doesn't tell the you the gateway? Don't you need use the 'route' command to see the gatway [20:00] user6, can this machine ping 192.168.0.1? [20:00] user6, can this machine ping 192.168.0.15? [20:01] 0.1 yes 0.15 no [20:02] ill bet you dollars to donuts that your router has MAC filtering enabled [20:02] =\ [20:03] i like donuts [20:03] i like dollars [20:03] :-))) [20:03] so its a fair bet =] [20:04] do you have access to the router setup? [20:04] wait [20:04] i have no router [20:04] ??? [20:04] then what are you connecting to? [20:04] is the PC 192.168.0.1 that give line to the other pc [20:05] what device is @ ip 192.168.0.1? [20:05] i have a modem [20:05] and a switch [20:05] 20 ports [20:05] ! [20:05] ok [20:05] is an xp home [20:06] you need to configure a router for the other computer to connect to [20:06] it give line to 2 kubuntu and 2 xp pro and this damn..#°ò@ of notebook [20:07] there are also a win98 [20:07] so...let me see if i understand.... [20:07] and a MAC [20:07] one computer connects to the internet..... [20:07] yes [20:08] dial-up or broadband? [20:08] adsl [20:08] ok.... [20:08] get one of your linux machines to that position.... [20:08] then it is connected to a switch [20:08] and set up router service on that box [20:09] yes is several month that i think to do that [20:09] that specific machine needs 2 eth devices [20:09] one to the modem, one to the switch [20:09] modem is usb [20:10] np [20:10] I know that xp home have a limit o 5 pc [20:10] ... i have read this somewere [20:10] WinXP is horrid as a router machine [20:11] yes i agree [20:11] so evict it from the job and put a reliable machine there [20:12] but i can assure that some times in this place we was connected with the some PC i have said to you and other 4 [20:12] ok [20:12] i want to say only that this problem is the same from several month [20:13] windows is a summertime OS ....summer-times it works, summer-times it dont =] [20:13] and it appens also is there are xp home [20:13] 1 kubuntu [20:13] and this notebook [20:13] having a switch without router serves on your network is worthless [20:14] you need a machine that dishes out and manages traffic (a router) [20:15] your tips is the best ... and i know... [20:15] I work for an ISP.... [20:15] but i know also that this is not the problem for this machine [20:16] ok [20:16] ok [20:16] vidd: thank you for patience [20:16] how many machines are currently on right now connecting to that specific connection computer? [20:17] i'll promise you that if i propose this problem again will be when i'll change the 192.168.0.1...:-) [20:17] ... [20:17] 8 [20:17] +1 [20:18] power off all but the connection machine, the on you are talking to me on and the laptop.... [20:18] 7 works perfectly [20:18] let me know when that is done [20:18] now [20:18] ?? [20:18] yes [20:18] there are only 3 [20:19] does your modem have a CAT-5 connection port? [20:19] as well as USB? [20:19] no [20:19] so no ethernet jack [20:19] what modle is it? [20:20] accessmedia [20:20] is a router that works like modem [20:20] when did xubuntu a.04 come out? [20:20] 8.04 [20:21] 04/2008 [20:21] cool [20:21] thx [20:21] user6, what model #? [20:21] Access Media [20:22] sorry [20:22] i cant look up data on your modem without the actual model number [20:22] Access Media fastRate [20:22] 100 USB [20:24] grrr....all google pulls up are pages in some language i cant read =[ [20:25] yes is usually the old distribution of alice for telecom [20:26] the modem [20:29] well....this is all I can do as far as recommendations to help you: [20:29] ehi vidd: what is the way to write in red like you made??? [20:29] have a linux bow set up as the primary contact machine [20:29] ok [20:30] i'll execute [20:30] thank you again [20:30] set up router service on that machine to dish out dhcp addresses [20:30] yes [20:30] see you buddy [20:30] when someone types your name, the whole message shows up in red [20:31] and have a good week end [20:31] ah [20:31] it's so easy? [20:31] bye [20:31] to set up router service? [20:31] to write in red [20:32] when you put in one's name, you dont see it....but they do [20:32] to set up router service i think will be no problem [20:32] I hope [20:32] of course it is highly dependant on the irc client and how the person has configured it... [20:32] bye [20:33] user6, if you need help, the ppl @ #kubuntu will help (or come back here) [20:33] sure [20:33] i know === cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville [21:59] i'm havin a problem, i can't get any sound on this thing. and it's worked fine before. [21:59] !sound | Luigi tried this? [21:59] Luigi tried this?: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [22:26] alright, everything works fine now, thanks :) [22:27] well done Luigi :) [22:51] Got a new monitor, with DVI, but it seems I can't seem to get my video card outputting through DVI [22:51] anything I can do? [22:59] hmm [22:59] Can someone help me? [23:00] I just used the xubuntu live disc, but i need to log in [23:00] i tryed "ubuntu" and "xubuntu", but neither did work [23:01] log in? [23:01] you shouldn't be asked to login but try ubuntu and don't type anything for password just hit enter [23:06] any luck Steyn ? [23:07] "Incorrect username or password" [23:07] Nope, don't work :( [23:08] knome: yes, it's the first time that when I boot a live disc, it asks for an username and password [23:08] I'll just reboot, and install xubuntu without live disc [23:09] homebrewcider: I had to set mine up with DVI only first, disconnected the VGA [23:09] Then it worked in DVI mode. [23:14] Steyn: have you done the md5 check - google results suggest it is a bad iso/burn that causes that [23:14] !md5 | Steyn [23:14] Steyn: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [23:17] damned [23:17] the md5 isn't correct [23:17] corrupt download >.< [23:17] there you go :) [23:18] indeed [23:19] and does someone know why i get a 403 when i'm trying to download the torrent? [23:19] http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/hardy/release/desktop/xubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso [23:19] I must use the http download... [23:20] ok, downloading again [23:20] Steyn: what link are you using to get there? [23:20] http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/hardy/release/ [23:20] then desktop [23:21] then xubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso [23:21] en then i get a 403 [23:21] cody-somerville: ^^ [23:22] Steyn: it works from here [23:22] thanks [23:22] ah well [23:22] I found it on isohunt [23:22] and it works with the ubuntu tracker [23:23] what was the link to latest xubuntu again? [23:26] knome: hardy or intrepid? [23:27] You're not suppose to download the iso [23:27] i [23:27] you're suppose to download the torrent file [23:27] ...ntrepid [23:28] http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ [23:28] thanks. [23:34] i just installed xubuntu with hdtv and the dpi settings are all messed up, i tried multiple fixes online but the text is still way too small someone please help me [23:36] Set the dpi to 72? [23:37] or other problem? [23:39] i tried setting the dpi in xorg and added the Files section that point to the 100dpi path like all the how toos say [23:39] i have to set the font size to 18+ before anything is even close to readable [23:39] What is the resolution of the TV [23:39] ? [23:44] Hello, I'm new in linux and I want to make an application for xubuntu, so I have some questions, what IDE do you recomend me, and what graphical API do I need to use? thank [23:45] edugonch: well, xfce uses gtk as its toolkit. So really, any gtk app would do... [23:45] I am doing most my programming in x86 Assembly. I do it in Bluefish and compile it through Terminal [23:45] edugonch: most of xfce is in C or C++ [23:46] gtk is in C. there is a C++ binding: gtkmm [23:46] thanks [23:46] Assembly is superior. [23:47] The language programming languages are programmed in [23:48] i'm thinking of going the C++ and glade route... [23:48] : there are a lot of compilers write in c and c++ also in c#, I know that assembler is the gol of any languaje, but I thing is not good to program a end user application in assember [23:48] *think [23:49] My english is not very good, sorry [23:49] But oh lord it's fast! [23:49] to run, no for develop [23:50] wtf [23:50] I downloaded it again [23:50] well it's the final user in mind. Speedy development is slow product. Slow development is fast product. [23:50] and I've got the same md5 [23:50] en now the download was perfect, I'm sure [23:50] Try another souce [23:51] it's already from another :P [23:51] previous time it was from the mirror in the netherlands [23:51] now from bittorent [23:52] ''\(o_O)/'' [23:52] ow wait [23:52] my previous download was correct [23:53] this one also [23:53] i had the md5sums of ubuntu, not xubuntu :x [23:53] ok, then I still got the problem that i can't log in [23:53] but good, that'll be the problem for tomorrow [23:53] i go to bed [23:59] helloo [23:59] !hi | deviant [23:59] deviant: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [23:59] heh