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Search4Lancerguys: something is sucking up all of my processor resources, but I don't know what it could possibly be, as the numbers in ksysguard don't come anywhere close to adding up00:02
Denisedont ever open that query for that alibaba again00:05
Denisecapicho?00:05
eagles0513875Denise: ?00:08
Denisewhat00:08
eagles0513875[01:05] <Denise> dont ever open that query for that alibaba again00:09
eagles0513875[01:05] <Denise> capicho?00:09
eagles0513875?#00:09
Denisego to hell00:09
eagles0513875what a jerk00:09
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ForgeAusuh does the kubuntu live CD install onto a mac (ie efi boot management)... or does it require the alt CD to install that way?00:10
nicknickI'm having some problems with getting kubuntu to output 1080p. any ideas?00:10
ForgeAus!efi00:11
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about efi00:11
thierryhello00:11
ForgeAus!info efi00:11
ubottuPackage efi does not exist in hardy00:11
ForgeAuslol its not a package00:11
Ash-FoxI am currently working with ACLs (yes, I know I am using a non-standard ubuntu path for certain things) and I have run into a annoying problem. I want to grant users in the group 'webmasters' full mod access to a set of folders, but the problem is, their main group is not 'webmasters' and I don't want to change their main group either - any idea how to get around this problem? I am currently using "sudo setfacl -R -m g:webmasters:rwX 00:12
Denisealone00:21
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dq0511is anyone know how to compile the ieee80211 ?01:00
dq0511im using hardy kubuntu01:00
dq0511=.='01:00
twylight!screensavers01:01
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about screensavers01:01
twylightdamn01:01
Denisehardy kubuntu what?01:01
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snovai'm trying to enable the ppa repos with kde 4.1 in them. do these packages use .kde instead of .kde4? i read that they'd changed that recently, but i don't know if it applies to these repos.01:05
no1peacedragonI am total noob was just wondering does WINE help with doing windows games, or just other windows apps?01:08
twylightboth01:08
no1peacedragonok thanks i hadn't tried yet01:09
snovano1peacedragon: it does, but possibly not as well, as games have higher requirements that wine might not be able to meet.01:09
twylightit's kind of flaky01:09
twylightlike I said, kind of flaky01:09
twylightdoesn't always run things the way you want01:09
no1peacedragonlol well windows is kinda flaky thats why I switched lol01:09
Denisedoesn't always run things the way you want01:10
Deniseas games have higher requirements that wine might not be able to meet.01:10
Deniseintimidation01:11
no1peacedragonok01:11
no1peacedragonis there a list of games that is pretty compatable ,(or less conflicts) that I can look up?01:14
Denisechoose clearer games01:15
DarkShinigamiHello all. I still cannot seem to figure out what is wrong with my desktop. I cannot use firefox3 or kaffeine to play a DVD.01:16
DarkShinigamiFirefox3 takes quite a while to load. Once loaded, it freezes for about a minute or so.01:16
no1peacedragonok so most likely my rpg games will not work right01:16
Search4Lancerguys: something is sucking up all of my processor resources, but I don't know what it could possibly be, as the numbers in ksysguard don't come anywhere close to adding up01:16
Search4Lancerreally bogging things down01:16
DarkShinigamiKaffeine tells me that I cannot play DVDs and have installed the libdvdcss2 package.01:16
JohnFluxSearch4Lancer: that usually means disc io01:17
JohnFluxSearch4Lancer: might just be updatedb01:17
JohnFluxSearch4Lancer: or it might be evms01:17
JohnFluxSearch4Lancer: do you use evms?  (if you don't know, you don't)01:18
Search4LancerJohnFlux: my external hard drive has been hd has been having constant, nonstop io that I can't seem to stop01:18
afeijodamn, I lost all stuff on kde4 again, wallpaper, icons, deskbar... how to reset?01:18
Denisevoip01:19
Search4LancerJohnFlux: no, no evms01:19
Deniseu need to use this01:20
Denisenext time01:20
twylight!cedega01:20
ubottucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega01:20
JohnFluxSearch4Lancer: just to be sure, you could do:  apt-get remove evms*01:21
JohnFluxSearch4Lancer: also check your /var/log/messages01:21
Deniseso it is just a bug01:21
JohnFluxSearch4Lancer: if it's only slowed down for a few minutes (and only lasts for 15 minutes max) it's probably just updatedb01:21
Denisebugging bugging in linux01:21
DeniseI hate the pc01:21
Search4LancerJohnFlux: nope, it's been doing this for a couple days now, will try those01:22
Deniseah01:22
Denisethats why the asshole said he saw no difference with last year01:23
Denisewhat a fucking gang of lost freakers01:23
Deniseforget me01:23
MrKennielanguage01:23
Deniseno way in ur gamic of incompetent01:24
JohnFluxSearch4Lancer: run 'dmesg' and see if that says anything important01:24
Search4LancerJohnFlux: /var/log/messages is full of io errors for "dev sdf"  (my external partitions are sdf1 and sdf2)01:24
Deniseyou can officially forget me01:25
JohnFluxSearch4Lancer: ouch01:25
JohnFluxSearch4Lancer: well, I'd start backing up my work if I was you :-)01:25
Search4LancerJohnFlux: dmesg has all the same, with an extra nugget at the end: "FAT: FAT read failed"01:25
Denisebye bye01:26
no1peacedragonbye01:26
Denisecapicho the red maple leaf?01:26
Deniseforget me01:26
Search4LancerJohnFlux: til then, just unmount them?01:26
HollowPointI'd have already forgotten you if you'd left01:26
JohnFluxSearch4Lancer: well make sure you back up anything important first01:27
Ash-FoxSeriously, most of us will forget you if you stop talking. Your continious "forget me" messages are more likely going to make us remember you.01:27
JohnFluxSearch4Lancer: you might not be able to mount it again01:27
JohnFluxAsh-Fox: forget who?01:27
* JohnFlux jokes01:27
Denisefreaky lost incompetents01:28
Deniseyeah01:28
* HollowPoint suggests listening to Metallicas new album for ten minutes after a few beers, a bit of head banging, you can forget anything :D01:28
Deniselove ya01:28
MrKennieops01:29
Deniselol01:29
no1peacedragonbeer dont work for me i gotta light a bowl to forget lol, sorta takes headbanging to a new slow mo thang tho lol01:31
|0sts0u|Anyone a knetworkmanager guru here?01:35
genii|0sts0u|: Probably just state what the problem is first and then see if anyone knows about the issue01:38
twylightI'm pretty experienced with knetworkmanager01:39
|0sts0u|Trying to get my ppp connection to show up in the popup menu from the taskbar. I currently use kppp to start it, but would be nice to have it where it belongs.01:39
twylightI'm pretty sure knetworkmanager is designed for wireless/ethernet connections, excluding dial-up01:40
twylight!kpp01:40
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kpp01:40
|0sts0u|everytime i configure it through the knetworkmanager settings it never shows up in the dial-up connections.01:40
twylight!kppp01:40
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kppp01:40
twylightyou're useless, ubottu01:41
|0sts0u|lol! darn bots.01:41
twylightyeah, I'm thinking the best bet is to intergrate kppp into kicker01:41
afeijodamn, I lost all stuff on kde4 again, wallpaper, icons, deskbar... how to reset?01:41
|0sts0u|knm actually uses kppp as its backend and the menu is there...01:42
DarkShinigamiHas anyone here had inoperable issues with firefox3?01:42
|0sts0u|even lets me configure kppp through knm... just never shows up on the menu.01:42
|0sts0u|already have a kppp quicklaunch, but just trying to simplify. I already have too many things on the bar for this little 15" display.01:43
devranhii01:47
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eeehiiii01:48
* twylight eats broken glass01:50
* dr_willis hands twylight a gasoline chaser.01:50
* twylight slams it down01:50
twylightDELICIOUS01:50
dr_willisand only $4+ a gallon!01:50
dr_willisCheaper then Milk!01:51
mdleysonhello everybody01:52
ForgeAusanyone here a fsck wiz?01:52
ForgeAusI need to know if fixing the large_file support flag will either set the large file support flag or if it will mince/break or otherwise modify my "large" files ?01:53
dr_williscant say that ive ever heard of the 'large file support flag'01:54
ForgeAusor if I can manually set the largefile support flag?01:55
ForgeAuswell this is the error fsck is giving me01:55
ForgeAusFilesystem contains large files, but lacks LARGE_FILE flag in superblock.01:55
ForgeAusFix<y>?01:55
ForgeAusI'm *NOT* under any circumstances simply going to select y if theres any chance it will mess up my large files01:56
dr_willisI doubt if it will affect the files... but again.. ive never seen this issue befor.01:57
dr_willissounds like the 'fix y' would 'set the flag'01:57
afeijohow to reset my kde4 plasma?01:57
ForgeAusyeah I would have assumed that too, I'm just sick of this kinda stuff,01:58
ForgeAusfsck is never kind to me01:58
ForgeAusafeijo generally you type killall plasma; plasma01:58
dr_willisI rarely have issues with linux and filesystems..01:58
ForgeAus(if in the meantime you can remove the plasma's rc files even better)01:58
dr_willisI have been pushing my Luck using that IFS thing to get ext2/3 support  under windows. :)01:58
ForgeAusdr willis ext2ifs I havn't had troubles with, dunno about the filesystem driver on sourceforge tho, its newer and ppl seemed to like it...01:59
ForgeAusI know its got more bells and whistles01:59
dr_willisIt works decently well.. if you are carefull with it. :) dont hibernate/suspend windows then boot to linux.. the ext2 will still be tagged as in use.. and linux will try to fsck the systems.02:00
dr_willisalso. files with Different CasE namEs can confuse Windows. :)02:00
ForgeAuswell I don't use suspend/hibernate anyway...02:00
dr_willisand some linux filenames can REALLY confuse windows. :)02:00
ForgeAusyeah well windows is case InsensItIve02:01
twylightPlEAse DoN'T tAlK LikE tHis02:01
dr_willisof course Im constantly getting files/directiorys on my NTFS drives  that windows dont want to delete/remove/rename. :)02:01
ForgeAushehe twylight we normally won't it was just a special case02:01
* dr_willis was Making a Point About Different Cases :)02:01
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ForgeAusit is possible to set windows to be case sensitive...02:01
dr_willislets all chat in regular expressions@ :)02:01
afeijoForgeAus: thanks, lots of lines resulted from that command, but didnt work02:02
ForgeAusthe Interix installer lets you do so, but I don't recommend it02:02
dr_willisForgeAus,  never seen that.. I imagine that would cause all sorts of issues.02:02
ForgeAusits in the registry somewhere02:02
ForgeAusDr willis its only if theres a hardcoded path in your program that it becomes an issue02:02
dr_willisSome how OS-X is case inesentive in the GUI.. but senesitive in the shell. WHich is sort of a neat way to confuse peoples.02:02
ForgeAusand with good programming practices one shouldn't be hardcoding paths anyway...02:02
dr_willisIm constantly seeing windows programs that use .JPG instead of .jpg and so forth.02:02
dr_willisor other annoyances. But thats the windows way.02:03
ForgeAusyeah OSX has strange case issues02:03
ForgeAusactually MacOSX terminal is case insensitive02:03
dr_willis'a Samba share with Directories with the same Name but differnt cases can cause issues..02:03
dr_willisIt wasent on my old imac.. but that was last out of the closet ages ago.02:04
ForgeAusunless it was because I "formatted" the disk that way...02:04
ForgeAus(I just went with the default)02:04
ForgeAusironically the tab-completion support is case sensitive02:06
ForgeAusbut the path/filenames arent'02:06
ForgeAusie if I cd to /volumes it would enter the directory /Volumes ... but if I used cd vo <tab> it wouldn't complete the name volumes (or Volumes)02:07
ForgeAus(or /vo<tab> )02:07
ForgeAusso in essence its case insensitive just that the bash has case sensitive tab completion from what I can tell...02:08
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Daisuke_Idoyou can turn off bash's case-sensitive tab completion02:13
ForgeAusyou mean you can turn off the tab completion or you can turn off the case sensitivity of it?02:14
dr_willisThe OS-X i have on my imac - dident even have bash i think.. its that old.02:14
ForgeAusdr willis I've only used Leo a little I don't know a whole lot about previous osx's02:14
Daisuke_IdoForgeAus: http://www.mactips.org/archives/2005/08/02/case-insensitive-tab-completion/02:14
ForgeAusIC02:14
ForgeAusimho it would have made more sense for them to have made that the default :)02:15
Daisuke_Idowell, 99% of the time it's running on a filesystem that's case sensitive as well02:15
ForgeAusoh really? odd I thought the default filesystem was case insensitive (and journalled) for OSX, thats the one that was preselected so I didn't change it...02:19
ForgeAusat least I think it was case insensitive...02:20
ForgeAusok well I guess I have no option but to take a chance on this LARGE_FILE support flag02:20
ForgeAusanswring y now, I wont be happy if this goes badly :(02:20
ForgeAusfsck is generally unkind to me02:20
ForgeAushmm interesting, that seemed relatively harmles02:21
afeijoI'm using kde4, my wallpaper dont load, anyone knows what to do?02:27
littleHas anyone had any trouble updating libc6-i686 in Kubuntu Hardy Heron?02:27
littleI tried to grab my updates in Kubuntu Hardy Heron LTS today. The updates were not applied, and the reason was that doing so would break libc6-i686. Now my Adept Notifier looks like this: http://littlergirl.googlepages.com/brokenpackage.png02:30
dr_willisSetting up libc6-i686 (2.7-10ubuntu4) ...02:32
dr_willis  02:32
littleI tried locking the package, and it shows as locked when I do dpkg -s libc6-i686 _ grep Status but Adept Notifier will not apply the rest of my updates, and does not show the package as locked. It's still trying to update it.02:32
dr_willisit worked here just a few min ago for me little02:32
littleMine says it's <gasp> broken!02:32
dr_willisPerhaps try a dist-upgrade? thats a little extreme02:33
littleWhat will a dist-upgrade do?02:33
* little does not want KDE 402:33
dr_willis sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:33
dr_willis 02:33
dr_willisit does not install kde402:33
littleDo you think it might clean up the mess caused by this morning's Adept Notifier mixup?02:34
dr_willisIve never quite figured it out.. but it 'upgrades' more vigoursely02:34
dr_willisthings which would not get upgraded..  will often get upgraded and so forth.02:34
dr_willisit will ask to continue. so you could try it and see i guess.02:34
littleExcellent! I'm getting somewhere: http://paste.ubuntu.com/51123/02:36
littleThat got me part of the way. (:02:36
dr_willislibc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.7-10ubuntu3) but 2.7-10ubuntu4 is installed02:36
|0sts0u|It will bork if you have locked the kernel version and forced an upgrade on libc6, or if you locked libc6 and forced a kernel upgrade.02:36
dr_willisHmm...  PreDepends? thats a new term for me.02:36
littleIf you look at that, it shows a few packages (libc6 among them) with unmet dependencies. Do I run apt-get -f install on each one seperately?02:36
littleAh, okay, I'll unlock libc6 and try it again. (:02:37
dr_willissudo apt-get -f install02:37
dr_willislocked.. oh that may be the whole issue. I never bother locking anyting.. never needed to02:37
|0sts0u|i believe libc6 is compiled against the current kernel version.02:37
Fraeon_Does support for multiple monitors still suck in KDE4?02:39
littleOkay, I unlocked libc6-i686 and ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again with identical results.02:39
littleI locked it because of the error. The error happened first. (:02:39
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|0sts0u|libc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.7-10ubuntu3) but 2.7-10ubuntu4 is installed02:41
|0sts0u|libc6 is the metapackage02:41
onessimoHello!02:41
|0sts0u|is that locked?02:41
littlew00t! Fixed! I ran sudo apt-get -f install libc6-i686 and all is well. Thank you so much for the help!02:42
|0sts0u|i hate forcing installs. sometimes the aftereffect of the cure is worse than the original problem. glad that worked though.02:44
|0sts0u|still means the metapackage has a dependency problem. might want to look into that.02:45
littleHow do I look into that?02:46
littleI think something just went screwy during my update this morning.02:46
|0sts0u|well, what is the version of libc6 currently installed?02:47
little2.7-10ubuntu402:47
|0sts0u|and not libc6-i68602:47
littleAlso 2.7-10ubuntu402:48
|0sts0u|that is odd... that error message says it thinks ubuntu3 is installed.02:48
littleI'm doing dpkg -s libc6 and dpkg -s libc6-i686 to get those versions.02:48
littleAh, the error is over. (:02:48
littleI think...02:48
littleI also opened Adept Notifier and libc6-i686 no longer shows up there as a BROKEN package. (:02:49
|0sts0u|may have been a glitch... hope it was just temporary.02:51
littleMe too. I haven't had any problems except that. I'm loving Hardy Heron. (:02:53
|0sts0u|been seemless for me. even on my 4 year old notebook.02:53
littleYeah, I find it more stable than Gutsy Gibbon, and it seems faster.02:53
twylight6.14 is running seamlessly on my 2001 craptop02:54
littleLOL02:54
littleMy laptop ran well with Feisty Fawn.02:54
|0sts0u|gutsy worked fine for me too, but hardy does seem faster. Twylight: if it ain't broke, don't fix it!02:54
twylightprecisely02:54
twylightbut when I get a new laptop, this will be used as a server02:55
twylightI'll have to store the system in the freezer while it's running, because it generates enough heat to make the sun sweat02:55
littleI would have done that, but my laptop is not long for this world, so I use VirtualBox on this desktop instead.02:55
|0sts0u|I installed hardy on my home server when it first was released, and I just rebooted it last week for a kernel upgrade.02:55
|0sts0u|been the best darn stable OS I have ever used. ANd I will probably be stuck with it for a while since I am not moving to KDE4 anytime soon.02:57
coreymon77stable, just wait until something royals on you, best, ya02:58
coreymon77:P02:58
|0sts0u|twylight: thought about liquid cooling?02:58
twylightit's a laptop02:58
twylightI can't be fucked to take it apart02:59
coreymon77twylight: wow there02:59
|0sts0u|only issues I have had to cure was the blasted script kiddies hammering me.02:59
coreymon77twylight: please watch the language02:59
twylightwow, only one swearword and I'm being told to watch my language02:59
twylightare you the language police?02:59
|0sts0u|Ahh... My laptop runs hot too... I use it in my truck so I just ran a duct from the a/c vent to my mobile base mount02:59
twylightthat's a good idea02:59
coreymon77nope, its jsut the channel rules03:00
twylightwell it's not up to you to enforce them, so don't, please.03:00
coreymon77its up to everyone really03:00
|0sts0u|works great... dropped it from 75c or so down to about 45c03:00
twylightmine runs at about 45 while idle03:00
twylightyou're the only one complaining coreymon7703:01
coreymon77what lappy twylight?03:01
twylightmy old IBM thinkpad from 200103:01
coreymon77ah03:01
twylightit's a pentium 303:01
twylightbeen dropped about a hundred times03:01
twylightthe fan's fuxxored03:01
twylightand the battery is dead03:01
twylightbut it still runs03:01
coreymon77and youre not getting a new one because03:02
twylightno dead pixels03:02
twylightbecause I'm poor and can barely pay my rent03:02
coreymon77oh03:02
coreymon77student?03:02
twylightI wish.03:02
twylightkicked out of highschool in grade 1003:02
twylightlived on the streets for about 3 years03:03
coreymon77because?03:03
twylightbecause my parents decided to charge me with a crime I didn't commit03:03
twylightand I went to jail03:03
coreymon77thats impossible03:03
twylightno, it's possible03:03
coreymon77youre not 18 in grade 1003:03
twylightand you're not thinking03:03
twylightI'm seventeen03:04
coreymon77so am i03:04
twylightthat's nice03:04
coreymon77grade 1203:04
twylightyeah03:04
twylightthis was a while ago and I've only started to get back on my feet03:04
twylightso seriously, please don't jerk me around03:04
coreymon77man, either there was a major misunderstanding, or your parents are complete shmecks03:05
|0sts0u|you want to get your life in check try looking into job corps. Did a wonder for me and eventually landed me in my career.03:05
|0sts0u|if you are in the states.03:05
twylightI live in canada.03:05
coreymon77hey! me too03:06
twylightcorey, I don't know what happened, but my parents didn't like me03:06
twylightToronto, Ontario03:06
coreymon77yup03:06
|0sts0u|Hmm... americorps up there?03:06
coreymon77unfortunately :P03:07
|0sts0u|They do a lot of good. Help out with education and pay you in the process. Have a friend in anchorage with them right now and she is loving it.03:08
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|0sts0u|that was awful.03:08
coreymon77you dont need american corporations to do that03:09
coreymon77canadian companies work just fine03:09
|0sts0u|I am in the US. Just using them as an example. I'm sure there are pleanty of parallels in canada.03:10
coreymon77you have no idea03:10
twylightI'm probably gonna join the reserves soon03:10
twylightwhen I'm off probation03:11
coreymon77wait, we have reserves?03:11
coreymon77wait, we have an army?03:11
coreymon77:P03:11
coreymon77lol03:11
|0sts0u|I don't know how canadian service works, but in the US you can get the courts to allow service while under supervision.03:11
|0sts0u|or probation.03:12
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|0sts0u|I was a 3 time convicted felon before I was 21, dropped out my senior year of highschool, and heavy drug user. I pulled myself out and found a career. There are resources out there, just have to find them.03:14
coreymon77man, ive had a pretty good life03:15
twylightI still am a heavy drug user03:16
geek_i'm thinking of running unreal ircd on ubuntu server. i need to have it started when the OS boots up (using an init script), but as a particular user.  anyone knows how to do so?03:16
twylightI'm cutting back, but still03:16
coreymon77geek_: sorry, no idea, wait a bit and maybe someone else will know, or maybe give google a try03:17
geek_coreymon77: yeah, i'll ask again tommorrow if no one knows. I really should try the main ubuntu channel. oops ;p03:18
littleJust curious, but can you run it as a user from the command line, and just put the script that does it in the autostart folder?03:18
vasilisaMaybe you guys can help me.03:20
littleWhat do you need, vasilisa?03:21
vasilisawhy is my gateway 69.245.38.1 instead of 192.168.1.1 like it was, and why wont knetwork manager let me change it?03:21
vasilisao,o03:21
vasilisasomething tells me my modem's ip address should not be my default gateway03:22
dr_willisgeek_,  you could run it from rc.local  instead of an init script. Or check the !upstart guide on how the ubuntu init system works03:22
littleDid you log in in Administrator Mode?03:22
geek_dr_willis: ahh03:22
vasilisawell knetworkmanager forces root anyway03:22
geek_!upstart03:22
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/03:22
vasilisaipaddr used to say next to "inet" : 192.168.1.103:23
vasilisai want it to say that again03:23
littleTry kcontrol03:23
dr_willisnormally somthing started by init.. dosent run as a user. many services have their own 'special' user they run as.. but it depends on the service I guess03:23
littleOr kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces and then manually change it in there.03:24
vasilisaok but i dont really know what to set stuff03:24
vasilisai tried all that, but "ip addr" still lists my ip next to "inet"03:24
littleWhat kind of setup do you have?03:24
vasilisaComcast comes in to a linksys which goes to a wireless/wired router. Im directly wired to said router03:24
vasilisacomcast->linksys->netgear->me03:24
littleIs the router's address 192.168.1.1?03:25
vasilisathat is ALWAYS the address of these routers03:25
vasilisafor example, my computer was 192.168.1.2 and setting the router was 192.168.1.103:26
vasilisaevery tutorial i googled used that address, so it must be standard03:26
littleIt is, but some of them are exceptions to the standard. (:03:26
ticohello I'm trying to use limewire on ubuntu but for some reason it doesn't want to connect, I tried using it under vmware with xp and works fine03:26
littleWhat does your /etc/network/interfaces file look like?03:27
vasilisalittle: Okay, what is "inet" anyway03:27
vasilisahold on03:27
vasilisa#pastebin03:27
vasilisa!pastebin03:27
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:27
littleNo idea. I don't find any reference to inet in either kcontrol's network settings or in /etc/network/interfaces. Maybe it got put there by some other program.03:27
littleWhere aare you seeing inet?03:28
littleOh, never mind. I'm an idiot. It's in the interfaces file. (:03:28
vasilisahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/51135/03:28
vasilisaif i set the address field to 192.168.1.1 my internet stops working03:28
littleIs that netmask correct? Mine is 255.255.255.003:29
vasilisathere are several netmasks , i dont think it matters much03:29
littleYes, that's as it should be. The address field is the IP of your entire network. 192.168.1.1 is how your router is known internally.03:29
dr_willisfor a local home lan. 255.255.255.0 is normal03:29
vasilisaoh ok...03:29
littleTry backing up the /etc/network/interfaces file and changing the gateway to 192.168.1.103:30
vasilisawell im still on03:30
littleThat shouldn't be your external IP.03:30
littleYou can make the change while you're on.03:30
vasilisai mean, i did it and the net still works03:31
littleGotta restart networking. (:03:31
vasilisabut when i ping 192.168.1.1 i get no response03:31
vasilisai did03:31
littleAfter changing /etc/network/interfaces?03:31
vasilisayep03:31
vasilisasudo /etc/init.d/networking restart03:32
littleWhat happens if you type 192.168.1.1 into the browser?03:32
vasilisasays "connecting" and sits there03:32
vasilisa:(03:32
littleHmmm... Might have to reboot. I know that's not something us Linux users should say, but I find that sometimes when it comes to networking, there are Gremlins that iron themselves out on reboots. (:03:33
vasilisaalright, brb03:33
little192.168.1.1 should be accessing your router.03:33
littleGood luck!03:33
* little is beginning to worry about vasilisa03:36
dr_willissounds almost like the wires on thenetwork got moved around03:40
dr_willisand the pc is going straight to the internet, not the router03:40
littleUnless maybe that netmask really was correct the way it was.03:41
littleBut the gateway was definitely wrong.03:41
littleIs it even possible to bypass a router?03:42
dr_willison my setup     ISP's Gateway ---> Routers IP   Gate way set to the isp GW.   -  lan ip = 192.168.1.1 ---<----- Other machines use 192.168.1.1 as their gateway.03:42
dr_willislittle,  if someone messed with the wires. :)03:43
dr_willisthey couldent even ping the router could they?03:43
littleNo, that just said connecting. I'm thinking she (he?) had the address of the router wrong, maybe.03:43
littleI have a Linksys, too, and they do use 192.168.1.1 by default, but maybe that's one of those rare exceptions.03:44
vasilisawell i can only use the net when i have dhcp on :/03:44
littlevasilisa: Welcome back!03:44
vasilisa"{03:44
vasilisa:)03:44
littleYou just lost me. (:03:44
vasilisalol03:45
littleMy knowledge of networking only goes so far. (:03:45
vasilisain other words, when it autodetects03:45
dr_willisive seen them use 192.168.0.* ALSO03:45
littleLinksys?03:45
vasilisayep03:45
dr_willishow many other machines are on the lan?03:46
littleAh yes, me too. That's a Linksys thing, I think. It's okay. You can still specify a static IP in /etc/network/interfaces.03:46
vasilisaAHA my inet was 192.168.0.203:46
littleThat's by design, so that if a friend brought a laptop over and plugged into your router, they could log on instantly instead of having to fiddle around.03:46
dr_willisif your home network is using the 192.168.0.* range. :) thats fine..03:47
vasilisawell now its back to 69.245.38.28 :(03:47
vasilisaotheriwse the net doesnt work03:47
dr_willisthat sounds like the machine is getting the ip from the ISP's DHCP server.03:47
vasilisaX_X03:48
dr_willisbecuse from what ic an tell from the irc /whois stuff that IS your isp's assigned ip to you03:48
vasilisa>.<03:48
dr_willisYou sure someone hasent messed with your wires lately?03:48
littlevasilisa: Do you know how to check for available IPs within the internal network?03:48
vasilisalittle: no...03:49
vasilisadr_willis: only me lol03:49
littlehttp://littlergirl.googlepages.com/StaticLANIPHowTo.html03:49
littleOne thing I do know how to do. (:03:49
dr_willisI would double check.. it seems very odd that  machine is bypassing the router.. OR it may be set to be a DMZ machine.. but that dosent make sence either.03:49
littleOnce you find out which IPs are available internally and pick one, you can assign that as your static IP.03:49
dr_willisHow many machines are on this lan and connected to the router? Just the 1?03:50
vasilisa*facepalms* 192.168.1.1 just laods and loads, doesnt do anything03:50
vasilisaAlso, when i DID have my router login pop up, none of the passwords the site said worked!03:50
littleThat should be bringing up your router.03:50
vasilisaWhich is why ive been doing all this03:50
vasilisai know it should, but it doesnt03:51
littleLinksys ship without a password by default.03:51
vasilisait doesnt matter right now, i cant even get the login page to come up03:51
littleTry 192.168.1.203:51
vasilisathats just my local apache server03:52
vasilisalocalhost03:52
littleI'd keep going through the numbers. (:03:52
vasilisa0-10 all fial03:52
vasilisa192.168.1.1 worked a second ago - but the net itself wouldnt work03:53
vasilisathat was before i turned auto mode on03:53
littleI get a Background and Foreground query if I go to your IP with my browser. (:03:53
vasilisaYep03:53
vasilisathats me testing php03:53
dr_willisnmap the whole lan. :)03:53
littleIt's working. (:03:53
vasilisai was mad because no one could access it remotely before03:53
vasilisayeah, but you're going DIRECTLY to my personal ip03:54
vasilisaim not firewalled right now :(03:54
enzo_I am looking for an app to help with animation. I am open to either drawing frame by frame, using provided characters, or other options for the usage of the app. What do you recommend?03:54
littleI'm a good girl. (:03:54
vasilisaenzo_: im working on one >,< lol!03:54
littleLOL03:54
vasilisawww.vasilisagames.coj03:54
enzo_vasilisa: LOL03:54
vasilisam03:54
vasilisa.com not .coj03:54
vasilisaits the video :D03:54
|0sts0u|enzo: gimp has an animation addon03:55
vasilisasee im not totally a non-geek, i just dont get networks03:55
|0sts0u|called gimp-gap03:56
vasilisaat least my apache server can be accessed now03:56
vasilisaaha03:57
vasilisaso inet is the ip address of eth003:57
vasilisaand it was... 192.168.1.203:57
vasilisai may lose connection but im going to set it03:58
* dr_willis still thinks it sounds like some crossed wires03:58
dr_willisor some VERY weird router configs03:58
vasilisaactually03:59
vasilisai wonder03:59
littleinet for me is my internal static IP03:59
dr_willisisp -> wan port on router --> ROUTER --> lan ports on router ---> pc :)03:59
littlevasilisa needs to find her router first. (:04:00
dr_willisyou dont have any hubs or other gizmos on the lan?04:00
dr_willisISP ----> Hub --- Router and pc     = bad. :)04:00
littleLOL04:00
littleCan't you just assign the hub a static IP?04:01
vasilisadid i lose you guys04:01
enzo_|0sts0u|: How does it work? Do I need to draw, use pre-defined characters?04:01
vasilisa:(04:02
dr_willispre-defined characters ? huh?04:02
dr_willisIt takes  lots of still images.. and makes a animation of them. :)04:02
littleenzo: How about http://www.les-stooges.org/pascal/pencil/index.php?id=Home04:02
|0sts0u|I am not an animator. I just have heard about it and thought I would throw the name out. Might check out http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Using_GAP/04:03
enzo_dr_willis: pre-defined characters are items/people/objects/etc that are provided to you for you to animate to your liking.04:04
enzo_little: Thank you.04:04
dr_willisYou mean 'clipart' ? :)04:04
enzo_|0sts0u|: Ok, will do.04:04
enzo_dr_willis: Something like that04:05
vasilisai think i did it...04:05
dr_willisits because comcast hates you vasilisa  :P04:06
vasilisaim still on the net, my address is back to 192.168.1.204:06
vasilisadr_willis: they throttle me enoygh04:06
dr_willisIve not really noticed any throttling.04:06
littleenzo: You're welcome.04:06
vasilisaoh i get it a lot04:06
vasilisabut its on the seeding side04:06
dr_willisI tend to keep my torrents  uploads at around 10-30k/s :)04:07
vasilisawow04:07
vasilisapeople will upload for me for 10 secs then comcast cuts them off04:07
vasilisaits lame04:07
dr_willisi also use the scheduler to  only enable it at late hours04:07
vasilisawhy cant i access my router!? GROOOOOOOOWL04:08
vasilisait doesnt even ping04:08
dr_williscan you ping other machines on the net?04:09
dr_williscan they ping the router? each other?04:09
|0sts0u|you didnt disable http access or require https on it, did you?04:09
vasilisai can browse the web fine.04:09
dr_willisthats not what we asked. :)04:09
vasilisa...oh wait04:09
vasilisayes i can ping google04:10
dr_williscan other machines on the lan ping each other and the router? not google..04:10
vasilisai dunno, they're all off and i dont know her password04:10
vasilisai can ping my external ip :D04:11
dr_willisits 'password' :)04:11
vasilisano, the box doesnt even come up04:11
vasilisaand even when it did, password didnt work04:11
|0sts0u|what model router is the linksys. Some use 192.168.15.*04:12
vasilisawell im directly plugged into the netgear actually, so what did pop up was login for WPN824v204:12
|0sts0u|or even 192.168.120.* for some old linksys ones04:12
enzo_little: Thanks for the Pencil tip. I think that's the route I'll use.04:12
vasilisashouldnt the address show up in ifconfig04:12
enzo_vasilisa: This is the first time I've heard of someone not being able to ping their own router; moreso that it's evident that you are online.04:13
vasilisaenzo_: Yeah i think i really messed up bad04:13
enzo_|0sts0u|: Linksys now uses 192.168.1.*04:13
littleenzo: Glad to hear it. It does look interesting. (:04:13
vasilisasomething's just not right04:14
littlevasilisa: Do you have the booklet that came with the router?04:14
|0sts0u|yeah i know, but my voip router (only 6mos old) linksys still uses 1504:14
vasilisalittle: No, girlfriend threw everything away. i already got on her case for that :P04:14
enzo_vasilisa: I have a Linksys router. I changed the default information for the routing and all, but I can always see my router.04:14
enzo_vasilisa: What is your model. It should be online.04:14
vasilisacould this have anything to do iwth the fact that im connected to a netgear, which is then connected to the router?04:14
littlevasilisa: Off with her head. (:04:15
enzo_vasilisa: Yes04:15
|0sts0u|your router address will be the same as the gateway address in most cases. unless you have 2 routers04:15
|0sts0u|yes04:15
enzo_vasilisa: ISP <-> Linksys <-> Netgear <-> You?04:15
dr_willis2 routers? hmm.. normally a router  can be set to just work as a hub.04:16
vasilisaenzo: yes04:16
vasilisabefcmu10?04:16
dr_willis2+ dhcp servers on the same lan.. can cause  quirks. :)04:16
enzo_If that's the setup, question number one is "What the deuce?" followed by "why?"04:16
vasilisai think thats my router number04:16
vasilisaenzo: Because the linksys only has 1 port ?04:17
enzo_vasilisa: You can get an 8-port with wireless if necessary (my next step if things go in their current direction)04:17
enzo_vasilisa: Why does your Linksys have 1 port? No much of a router if it has one in and one out.04:17
|0sts0u|is the linksys a router or a cable modem?04:17
vasilisaenzo: OH its a cable modem :D04:18
vasilisaok, so the cable modem goes to the netgear router04:18
vasilisawhich then leads to her computer and mine04:18
enzo_|0sts0u|: you win the grand prize!04:18
dr_willisSo its not a linksys router at all.......04:18
dr_willis:)04:18
vasilisa>.>04:18
vasilisasoooooooooooooooooooooooooo im doing it wrong04:19
enzo_Yes04:19
vasilisadrat04:19
littleAha!04:19
enzo_You want to get your Netgear's IP (which is your gateway) and ping that.04:19
vasilisaohhh04:19
|0sts0u|lol!04:19
enzo_By default, it should end in 1. I believe their default configuration is 192.168.0.104:19
vasilisahttp://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Netgear/WPN824v2/Limewire.htm04:21
vasilisanope, it should be 192.168.1.104:21
enzo_Ok04:22
enzo_So what's the issue you're having with your Netgear router?04:22
vasilisai cant ping it , or access it at all04:22
vasilisa192.168.1.1 loads... forever04:22
enzo_Open Konsole04:23
enzo_"ifconfig" and see what you get for your gateway04:23
vasilisathats the inet?04:23
vasilisamy external ip04:23
vasilisao.o04:23
enzo_inet addr is your own IP04:24
vasilisaoh ok04:24
vasilisaso its correct04:24
vasilisaBCast is 255.255.255.25504:24
enzo_If it is external, then you are not going through a router. Seems that you are hardwired for your modem.04:24
vasilisano, im connected to the router04:24
vasilisai just said external cuz i dont know what im talking about04:25
|0sts0u|what does your inet address say?04:25
vasilisa69.245.38.2804:25
vasilisayou can use that to enter my apache server :/04:25
|0sts0u|that is an external ip04:25
vasilisaok04:25
enzo_You are not going through your router04:25
vasilisa@_@ but im connected to the router!04:25
|0sts0u|is that what ifconfig says for inet ip?04:25
vasilisayes04:25
anger_br04:26
anger_!br04:26
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt por ajuda em português. Obrigado.04:26
anger_Portuguese04:26
vasilisaso im connected to my router, but im not using it?04:26
enzo_I don't think you're going through your router. Follow your line. Does it go through your router before it hits the modem?04:26
littleThat inet shouldn't work. (:04:27
vasilisayes, it goes directly from my computer into the back of the router04:27
vasilisathen the router has its own wire leading to the modem04:27
|0sts0u|then your router is not routing and just passing directly to you.04:27
vasilisa:<04:27
|0sts0u|the router is not active and acting as a hub.04:27
vasilisahow do i fix that?04:28
|0sts0u|hard reset the router. Then you have to redo your port forwarding or dmz configs.04:28
vasilisais there anything i should do on this computer's settings before hard reset?04:29
|0sts0u|what model is the router?04:29
vasilisaNetgear WPN824v204:29
|0sts0u|Are you using dynamic addressing on your PC and all the others on your lan?04:30
vasilisadhpc is dynamic right04:30
enzo_yes04:31
vasilisabecause i turned it off04:31
vasilisaiface eth0 inet static04:31
vasilisaso i guess im static04:31
vasilisa: )04:31
|0sts0u|you set your IP to static at that external IP you gave?04:32
vasilisanope: address 192.168.1.204:32
vasilisagateway 192.168.1.25404:32
* enzo_ wonders why the gateway is set to .25404:32
vasilisa?04:33
|0sts0u|I would set your PC back to dhcp/dynamic, reset the router...04:33
vasilisabecause some internet guide said to04:33
* dr_willis has totally missed the original problem. :)04:33
vasilisaoh ok04:33
|0sts0u|then start over with your settings.04:33
* enzo_ never knew the orginal problem :p04:33
|0sts0u|192.168.1.254 should not be a valid gateway04:33
|0sts0u|unless you manually set your router config to that04:34
twylightit should always be 192.168.1.004:34
twylightshouldn't it?04:34
|0sts0u|end in 1 anyhow04:34
vasilisaokay dhcp mode is on. will i need to reboot my computer?04:34
|0sts0u|you changed config? and it didnt disconnect you?04:34
vasilisano... i just went to knetworkmanager04:35
vasilisaand switched manual to dhcp04:35
vasilisai think it briefly disconnected me, but not long enough for me to timeout04:35
|0sts0u|wow.04:35
dr_willisI dont think it  did that...04:35
enzo_twylight: gateways end in .1 I don't think anything ends in .004:35
dr_willis.0 would be the whole lan wouldent it?04:35
vasilisawell you guys were all quiet for a moment, then i got a flood of text04:35
enzo_twylight: Matter of fact, nothing ends in .0 for IPs. It's from 1-25504:35
vasilisaso id say i was dissed04:36
twylightlocalhost ends in 004:36
twylightI think04:36
twylightno it doesn't04:36
dr_willis127.0.0.1  - :) no it dont04:36
enzo_twylight: 127.0.0.1 :)04:36
vasilisaok brb04:36
vasilisahard reset tiem04:36
dr_willis'want a fast quake server! try 127.0.0.1' :)04:36
enzo_vasilisa: Best of luck. See you soon... hopefully04:36
enzo_LOL @ dr_willis04:36
|0sts0u|I would leave the pc at dhcp, hard reset the router (look in the manual or I can see if I have it in my docs) then start over with dmz or port forwarding04:37
enzo_I would hard reset, leave DMZ alone, do necessary port forwarding... call it a night.04:37
enzo_Or day04:37
|0sts0u|yeah. dmz only if it is the only option. dmz is dangerous.04:38
enzo_|0sts0u|: I leave DMZ alone on my router. No need.04:38
* little thinks she probably doesn't want to know that DMZ is.04:39
|0sts0u|only ports you should need to forward are your servers that need external access.04:39
enzo_I have a few ports forwarded for my home network, but it's only for the minor things like the Public File Server I setup on my laptop and the other for my torrents.04:39
enzo_Yup04:39
|0sts0u|only other thing is once you have it all set up you might want to reset your pc that you have ports forwarded to as static.04:40
littleGood night all. I hope everything works out for vasilisa!04:40
enzo_DMZ... Drown My Zebra? LOL04:40
|0sts0u|saves a headache when a lease expires and changes your dhcp address04:41
enzo_I've hardly cared for static.04:41
vasilisaok i did all that ya said04:42
enzo_I am using all 4 ports right now on my router; desktop, 2 laptops and a printer. If I get anything else, I'm going for an 8-port wireless router.04:42
twylightDMZ: Don't Mess Zis up04:42
enzo_DMZ - Da Mighty Zoo!04:43
vasilisawell at least my local 192.168.1.2 works... losts my localhost04:43
vasilisabut 192.168.1.1 does NOT prompt me04:43
twylightI love nmap04:43
twylightand nslookup04:43
enzo_Check your gateway. It should be with .104:43
enzo_twylight: I agree. Nmap is a great tool04:44
twylightand the frontend for it just makes it so much more convienient04:44
vasilisa69.245.38.104:44
vasilisalol04:44
enzo_twylight: Are you using the GUI version?04:44
twylightif I don't have time to dick around with command line BS04:44
twylightyes04:44
enzo_twylight: I always prefer CLI when possible04:45
vasilisaactually 192.168.1.1 seems like its right, its just not returning my pings04:45
dr_willisi just got some nmap alias's/scripts that do 90% of all the things i need. :)04:45
dr_willisscan local lan, and a few other cases.. thta way i dont have to rember all the options04:45
twylightto each their own, I've never been much of one for operating programs using command line interfaces04:45
twylightbut when need be, I will do it04:45
twylightI've always got a console window open, you?04:45
vasilisai like command line ok04:45
dr_willisJust 1 ? :)04:45
vasilisaits like any other04:46
vasilisainterface04:46
twylightwell, usually six or seven04:46
enzo_I was visitng family for Labor Day weekend and decided to use nmap on a winXP system. Oddest thing.. you can't scan yourself like in Linux.04:46
dr_willisHeh..04:46
enzo_twylight: I have Yakuake. It's always there at startup.04:46
|0sts0u|I use yakuake. Always have a terminal at my f12 key.04:46
enzo_|0sts0u|: It's a godsend, it's it?04:47
|0sts0u|yes it is. couldn't do without it.04:47
enzo_Wow. No idea what happened there, but that was to be "Isn't it?"04:47
twylightI've got konsole mapped to ctrl+alt+shift+k04:47
twylightfirst thing I do when I do a fresh install04:47
vasilisamy console is ctrl-alt-t04:47
vasilisai hit it a lot04:48
enzo_twylight: Yakuake... one key F1204:48
twylightI use f12 for other shit04:48
|0sts0u|and tabbed terminals04:48
enzo_Always there, always ready04:48
geek_twylight: you can configure the key04:48
vasilisaso um04:48
twylightI know, but I use it for other stuff04:48
vasilisawhat should i do now, since i still cant ping my router :<04:48
knicyesterday I upgraded firefox on 8.04 64bit, and now it segfaults when starting04:48
twylightI play a lot of elite 204:49
enzo_vasilisa: Then you do not know your router's IP. Find your router's IP and then ping it.04:49
twylightso f12 is kinda important04:49
enzo_twylight: You can change it from F12 to anything you like.04:49
vasilisaenzo_: but the gateway isnt it, and the website's suggestion doesnt work04:49
vasilisa192.168.1.1 is what the model says to use04:49
enzo_Did you hard reset the router?04:49
vasilisaenzo_: yes04:50
vasilisaenzo_: pulled the plug, then hit the reset button while it was coming back on. three times04:50
twylightenzo_: I prefer my ctrl+alt+shift+k like I always use04:50
enzo_vasilisa: Nevermind the manual. The hard reset should give you a router ending with .104:50
|0sts0u|just now?04:50
enzo_vasilisa: Press and hold the reset button for 10-15 seconds; 30 to be honest.04:50
|0sts0u|you just hard reset? I didn't see you drop.04:50
enzo_|0sts0u|: Not now, but when initially dropped04:51
vasilisai had quit actually04:51
vasilisaok, lets try it* sigh*04:51
* |0sts0u| must have been lost in space04:51
enzo_Leave it all plugged in...04:51
enzo_Press the reset for 30 seconds...04:51
enzo_Turn off your router...04:52
enzo_Turn off your modem04:52
enzo_Turn on your modem...04:52
twylightturn the modem back on first04:52
enzo_Let the connection get established...04:52
twylightI'm a network cabling expert04:52
enzo_Turn on your router...04:52
enzo_Then you should be fine. Long shot, you may have to restart your computer, but that's very rare.04:52
|0sts0u|this whole deal has been a good arguement for dd-wrt on a wrt54g04:53
enzo_I have had/used my router since December 28, 2005. Coming up on 3 years now.04:54
vasilisadid all that was said04:54
enzo_Matter of fact, that was also my last speeding ticket. Rushing home to get it installed because I had a major project to complete.04:55
vasilisano response....04:55
enzo_vasilisa: You dropped for about a second.04:55
vasilisai had both the modem and the router UNPLUGGED for 20 seconds04:55
vasilisamaybe i just took a while to drop?04:55
enzo_vasilisa: Probably. Did you hold down the reset button?04:56
vasilisano i just unplugged them that time04:56
enzo_You need to reset. In which case, you didn't follow the provided instructions for resetting your router.04:56
vasilisai got "turn off router, turn off modem, turn on modem, turn on router"04:57
twylightwait about a minute between turning on modem and turning on router04:58
vasilisashould knetworkmanager be off?04:58
|0sts0u|to reset your router: (from netgear) 1. Press the reset button on the back until the test light blinks. This takes about 10 seconds. (To avoid accidental resets, the small button is recessed. Use a pen or paperclip to access it.)04:59
|0sts0u|2. Release the button.04:59
|0sts0u|3. Wait for the router to reboot.04:59
vasilisa|0sts0u|: Okay, ive done that quite a bit05:00
=== chuck_ is now known as Kage_Jittai2
vasilisawell im done worrying for today05:01
|0sts0u|you may have a borked router. a hard reset should reset to factory defaults.05:01
vasilisawe'll see what happens after i leave it off ALL NIGHT05:01
vasilisathansk guys05:01
|0sts0u|I wish you luck05:01
|0sts0u|ghost in the machine.05:02
* twylight sings05:03
deokanonhey guys... do you know if sometimes linux can cause booting problems because the system cannot read the hard drive05:06
|0sts0u|deokanon: yes. what errors are you getting?05:09
deokanonbasically i cannot read from the hard drive... i have winxp and ubuntu installed05:10
deokanonwell... not exaclty... sometiems the system can read the hard drive and sometimes it doesnt05:10
|0sts0u|is XP able to boot?05:11
deokanonim trying to find out what could possibly cause the problem05:11
deokanoni know for a fact that sometimes i am able to get to the list of OS installed05:11
|0sts0u|That sounds like a possible Master Boot Record problem.05:12
|0sts0u|if it is intermittent like that it may just be a cabling problem to the drive. Or even could be a fluctuating power supply on your system.05:13
|0sts0u|Will the system boot properly off of a bootable CD, like the ubuntu install CD?05:13
deokanoni dont think there is a problem with the power supply05:13
deokanonbios detects the hard drive with no problem05:14
deokanonit's just when it's loading that the booting system fails05:14
|0sts0u|how far does it get before it fails?05:14
mr---t-all the way to the failure I guess lol05:15
|0sts0u|well, is it giving you ubuntu splash screen or does it even get past the bootloader (operating system choices)?05:16
|0sts0u|guess he decided to leave! maybe I should turn on my join/part messages  lol05:19
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twylightWHAT THE FUCK IS THS SHIT05:29
twylight*THIS05:29
mr---t-!language05:30
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.05:30
Daisuke_Ido!language05:30
Daisuke_Idojust a little late05:30
mr---t-good thought tho05:30
twylightyeah that time I overdid it05:30
twylightallow me to rephrase that05:31
twylightwhat the FORK is this SHIFT05:31
twylightnow I sound like a douche, but at least it's family friendly05:31
mackikehi05:32
mr---t-!hi05:33
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!05:33
mackikethanks05:34
mackikei want get help i have a web cam  d-link dsb-c120    and don"t know  how  install it  in kubuntu 8.0405:35
mackikeanyone can help me  and tell me the command for  do it05:36
twylightenglish isn't your native language, is it?05:37
mackikeno05:37
mackikespanish05:37
twylight!spanish05:38
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.05:38
mackikeok05:38
mackikegracias05:38
twylightit'll be easier for you and us05:38
mackikepero usted me ayudaria con eso?05:38
twylightI don't speak spanish05:38
mackikeok05:38
twylightfrench ( a little ) and english05:38
mackikeoh  ok05:39
mnmackike, tal vez se puedo ayudar ud.05:47
twylight[12:40] <-- mackike has left this server ("Konversation terminated!").05:48
mnoh05:49
mnI don't see that05:49
Mrunagianyone heard of a problem with x restarting after putting in your password at login?05:49
enzo_Mrunagi: Yes. Check the disc space. You may be at 100%. That's what happened with me once.05:50
Mrunagioooooooh05:50
Mrunagiprobably then05:50
Mrunagicuz that drive is rather full05:50
snyh"drive is rahter full"?  what's the meaning05:51
Mrunagilol 0 bytes left05:52
Mrunagiinteresting05:53
enzo_That's going to be your issue05:55
enzo_You have to free up some space05:55
Farghyep, use livecd to login, mount drives and free the space05:56
enzo_Sorry if I don't respond quickly. I'm playing Madden '09 on my PSP. Quite addictive after a while.05:56
twylightrm -rf /home05:56
twylightno, don't do that05:57
twylightone time I chmodded chmod to 55505:57
enzo_twylight: What the deuce???05:57
twylightyeah05:57
enzo_twylight: Why would you want to remove /home ?05:57
twylightthat's why I said don't do that.05:57
enzo_You'd delete everything he has stored along with users.05:57
enzo_Ok05:57
Farghhow can he execute the command if he cant login ?05:57
twylightthat means he can't take my bad advice05:58
twylightwhich turns out to be good in the long run05:58
twylightdo a console login05:58
enzo_Fargh: twylight: He can use the LiveCD/DVD and get in there to remove items and space. Upon doing so, Mrunagi would do some damage with the removal of the /home directory.05:59
enzo_twylight: You can't login at all05:59
twylightyeah, if I give advice this late at night05:59
twylightdo yourself a favor and do the opposite06:00
twylightor nothing at all06:00
twylightbut yeah, one time I chmodded chmod to 55506:00
enzo_Ouch06:00
enzo_Could have been worse. Could have chmod'd to 77706:01
twylightthat's fixable06:01
twylighteveryone can read, write and view06:01
twylightthat means you can put it back06:01
twylight555 means nobody can touch it06:01
twylightwhich means I completely broke the permissions06:01
enzo_sudo is your friend06:05
enzo_If it can be done, it can be undone.06:06
twylightit was a virtual machine I did it on06:07
twylightI just reset it06:07
twylighthey, what do I have to install to get the extra screensavers?06:08
enzo_Find the other screensaver you want to install and install it06:09
DarkriftXanyone know how to force ff3 updates?06:12
DarkriftXthe check for updates option is greyed out in about06:12
DarkriftXand i have updates enabled in prefs06:12
inaetyHow can I send SMS messages on kopete?06:12
enzo_inaety: You might want to ask in #kopete06:13
twylightI don't think kopete even has that capability06:13
inaetyenzo_: true, thanks06:14
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Uriciobuenas noches06:17
Uriciodesde uruguay06:17
twylightENGLISH06:19
twylightwe speak ENGLISH here06:19
inaetytwylight: it does.  there is a plugin called SMSsend but idk how to configure it.  and I hate sending texts from AIM06:20
twylightwell I have no idea how it works, I don't deal with SMS because carriers charge money for recieving messages here06:21
inaetyWell, on my phone I have unlimited, sending or recieving.  I think I need to tell kopete my account, but i honestly don't know the account name06:21
DarkriftXanyone know how to control the width of a panel added to the side of your screen?06:42
Daisuke_Ido3 or 4?06:44
DarkriftX306:46
DarkriftXsry06:46
twylightI am going to bed07:06
twylightit's 2 AM07:06
twylighti've been up since 6 am07:07
twylightthat's nearly 24 hours07:07
twylighttwylight: uptime 20 hours07:07
twylightsudo shutdown -t now07:07
vbgunzwhats up with openoffice? jre is always defective. anyone know how to fix this error once and for all? if it helps, I have sun-java6-jre installed *but* openoffice java options show nothing in the list07:21
vbgunzdamn... I deleted the .open...Linux86 file and that doesn't work. I deleted the entire .openoffice dir at ~ and nothing... I reinstalled java, whats going on? this is a brand new installation but as far as I am concerned I've always been plagued with this... never bothered me till now07:31
vbgunzsolved it with apt-get install openoffice.org07:39
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tstaerk__hi, how can I change the screen resolution?08:33
shepherd#chemistry09:03
andypls1does anyone know why chmod doens't work?09:10
andypls1chmod  o+r file doesn't sets the permission of others to Read09:10
nomad2805hi guys09:20
nomad2805heini saya kasih beberapa ,, kalo pengen cari yang lain tinggal request aja.llo09:20
nomad2805halooo09:20
nomad2805hello09:20
nomad2805any bdy here?09:20
nomad2805someone help me09:23
nomad2805my compiz makes the system hangs up09:23
nomad2805T_T09:23
mefisto__I want to mount the hd from my set top box (or at least access the data somehow) but fdisk doesn't recognise any partitions on it. any ideas?09:32
OculusAquilaehi10:01
OculusAquilaedoes somebody know why openpgp support in kmail (4.1.1) is not working?10:01
neSSun0ohi guys, i turn on the pc and kubuntu 8.04 was telling me "kubuntu is running in low graphical configuration" or something like this, i had to pres ESC at reboot and "fix the X server" fortunately i knew how to do it even if im a newbie. can somebody tell me what happened?10:12
neSSun0oplus im trying to access the hard disk on which kubuntu is installed and it doesn't let me it says "feature available only with HAL" ??????????10:14
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shreyashello anybody there ?10:34
shreyashello10:35
shreyasanybody  there ?10:36
shreyas?10:36
favro!hi10:36
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:36
shreyasthank u10:36
shreyashello ubottu10:36
favroshreyas: you just ask your question in here :)10:36
shreyasok10:36
shreyas@ favro : is there any firewall built in ubuntu hardy or we need to install ?10:37
favro!firewall10:37
ubottuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).10:37
favroshreyas: I've gone a few years just using the inbuilt settings with no issues10:38
shreyasso ubuntu indeed has a firewall built in10:38
favroyep10:38
neSSun0oim trying to access the hard disk on which kubuntu is installed and it doesn't let me it says "feature available only with HAL" ??????????10:39
shreyasoh ok10:39
favroneSSun0o: try   sudo apt-get install hal10:39
shreyasis there any software for ubuntu which supports .Net and VB ?10:39
shreyasjust in case10:39
OculusAquilaeshreyas: try mono10:39
shreyaswats mono ?10:39
OculusAquilaedon't know if it supports vb10:40
neSSun0ofavro: it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. so apparentely i already have it installed10:40
OculusAquilaeshreyas: http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page10:40
shreyasya see it online mono supports .net10:40
favroneSSun0o: how are you trying to access the disk?10:40
neSSun0ofrom the folder "storage"10:41
shreyasso we can have a .net applications running on ubuntu ?10:41
neSSun0o"storage media"10:41
favroneSSun0o: and what os are you using to access the hd with kubuntu on it?10:42
OculusAquilaeshreyas: theoretically yes, but it depends on if the application use windows specific features or things that are on implemented in mono i think10:42
shreyas@ OculusAquilae: ohk got it will try installin it then. :-)10:43
neSSun0ofavro: it's weird because sometimes it appears to be "Hard Disk (UUID=15484cd9-a79f-4ac9-94f1-38d21ef2772c)" (and when it's like this it doesn't let me access to it saying "feature available only with HAL" and other times its name is "712G" (when its name is this instead i can access to it" i dont get it????10:43
OculusAquilaeshreyas: never tested applications for windows, but to develop applications it should be good10:43
neSSun0owhat OS? i dont know what an OS is10:43
favroneSSun0o: is the hard disk set to spin down when not in use?10:44
favroos = operating system10:44
shreyas@OculusAquilae: and firefox sometimes crashes out. it either will be workin with black in color likesome epidemic or something.10:44
shreyaswhy is it like dat >???10:44
neSSun0oaccording to my fstab, which one of the helpers of this chan modified for me to make my 4 hd to be automounted at boot no10:45
favroneSSun0o: spinning down the hard disk will be a bios setting10:45
OculusAquilaeshreyas: ??? I don't understand10:45
shreyasOculusAquilae: it will darken itself i mean firefox but i can still use it. why does it happen sometime ?10:45
neSSun0obut when this morning i runned a recovery mode and checked the sys there was an error message saying "bad format line 11 of /etc/fstab/"10:46
neSSun0obrb10:46
shreyasOculusAquilae: sorry u dint get my question ?10:46
OculusAquilaeshreyas: firefox gets dark and is still usable10:46
OculusAquilaeshreyas: sound like a problem with desktop effects10:47
favroneSSun0o: might pay to paste your /etc/fstab then so we can check it10:47
shreyasOculusAquilae: no no not desktop effects. sometime firefox says GECKO has crashed10:47
shreyasOculusAquilae: wat does it  mean ?10:48
shreyasOculusAquilae: how can i fix ?10:48
OculusAquilaeshreyas: gecko is the rendering thing of firefox, but I don't know10:48
OculusAquilaeshreyas: have you updated to version 3.0.3?10:48
shreyasOculusAquilae: ya its updated to firefox 3.0310:49
OculusAquilaehm I don't know, I personally don't use firefox very often10:49
shreyasOculusAquilae: so which is better on ubuntu? i mean browsers ?10:50
OculusAquilaeshreyas: You have to find out it yourself: I use often arora and konqueror, but everybody has other ideas of the perfect browser.10:51
wojci_i think konqueror and firefox is the best on ubuntu10:51
OculusAquilaeshreyas: I don't like firefox because of its bad kde-integration10:51
wojci_so konqueror10:52
shreyasOculusAquilae: ok well arora haven heard will try very soon. oh firefox has KDE problems hmmm ok10:52
favrofirefox intergrates fine here10:52
shreyasOculusAquilae: anyways OculusAquilae and others too thanks for helpin me out and for that .Net thing10:52
shreyassee ya10:52
shreyasbye10:52
shreyashave a great day everyone :-)10:52
shreyasbye10:52
wojci_no problem, bye10:52
neSSun0ofavro: the thing is i dunno how to open it since it doesnt let me access to it...10:52
* supricky06 goes to sleep, nite! :)10:52
OculusAquilaefavro: also file save dialogs? and on kde4?10:53
neSSun0oeven if i run a "kdesudo kate /etc/fstab/" it opens an empty folder10:53
favroOculusAquilae: don't use kde410:53
favro*I10:53
OculusAquilaefavro: and file save dialogs are normal or gnome style?10:54
mefisto__neSSun0o: leave out that final / so it's just /etc/fstab10:54
jfbany norwegians online?10:54
favroneSSun0o: kdesudo kate /etc/fstab - no / on the end10:54
wojci_use fluxbox, fast and easy10:54
favroOculusAquilae: it works like it should - does everything like it should10:54
neSSun0ofavro: http://paste.ubuntu.com/51209/ this is my fstab10:54
jfbanyone know where to download the charmap for: no_NO.ISO8859-1@bokmal10:55
OculusAquilaejfb: in #ubuntu-no I think10:55
jfbI am getting LC_CTYPE errors, since it cannot find the charmap file.10:55
jfbah, thanks!10:55
OculusAquilaefavro: But it uses gnome file dialog, doesn't it?10:56
favroneSSun0o: the line 11 error is because of the blank line10:56
favroOculusAquilae: I remove dolphin and konq and install thunar10:57
neSSun0ofavro: so like this should be ok http://paste.ubuntu.com/51210/10:57
neSSun0o?10:57
favroneSSun0o: which disk is not opening? sd?? ?10:57
OculusAquilaefavro: I like to have a desktop using mostly kde-apps10:57
favroOculusAquilae: I like mine to work10:58
neSSun0ofavro: it's EXT3 the one that is not opening and im suspecting that in the 11 line there was something about it10:59
jfbOculusAquilae: kinda quiet there... do you know where to find charmap files, which I can use in localedef ?10:59
mefisto__favro: blank lines are allowed in fstab. it shouldn't be an error10:59
neSSun0ofavro: anyway is this one UUID=15484cd9-a79f-4ac9-94f1-38d21ef2772c / ext3 the one with kubuntu on the one i cant access to10:59
favroneSSun0o: can you start at the beginning - are you using kubuntu now?11:00
neSSun0oyes11:00
neSSun0oanyway i dunno why but in the pastebin it appears to be blank, but in the kate there's a coma at the beginning of the line, that might be the error the syscheck was reporting11:01
favroneSSun0o: try changing the line to - UUID=15484cd9-a79f-4ac9-94f1-38d21ef2772c / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 111:02
mefisto__neSSun0o: if you can't access it, how did you see the /etc/fstab file???11:02
favrothat's what I've been trying to find out11:03
neSSun0omefiso__: i did from "kdesudo kate"11:03
mefisto__neSSun0o: are you running from the livecd? or from hard disk?11:03
favrohehe11:03
OculusAquilaejfb: hm I don't know11:03
neSSun0obut from the GUI interface if i click on the hard disk it says "feature only available with HAL"11:03
neSSun0omefisto__: it's months that im running kubuntu and is not from livecd...11:04
neSSun0oit from hard disk, the same one it doesnt let me open11:04
mefisto__neSSun0o: sounds like HAL is not running11:04
neSSun0oyes11:04
neSSun0oand i apt-get install HAL11:04
mefisto__neSSun0o: did you boot up normally?11:05
neSSun0onot this morning11:05
neSSun0oapparantely yesterday i upgraded the kernel11:05
neSSun0oinfact this morning the graphical interface wasnt working11:05
neSSun0oinfact this morning the graphical interface wasnt working to boot in recovery mode11:05
mefisto__neSSun0o: what about now? the session running now booted up normally?11:05
neSSun0oto fix the x server11:05
neSSun0oyes now yes11:05
neSSun0owith VESA drivers instead of the NVIDIA ones which i spent ages in installing...11:06
neSSun0obut yes it works11:06
neSSun0o???11:07
neSSun0owhat am i supposed to do now? plz help im losing my mind after the thousands kubuntu's issues....11:07
mefisto__neSSun0o: you want the nvidia driver, not vesa (unless the nvidia driver didn't work for you)11:07
neSSun0osince when i first install it thereìs always a prob11:07
neSSun0oof course it did work perfectly11:08
neSSun0obut this morning11:08
neSSun0oto be able to run kubuntu i had to fix the x server from recovery mode11:08
neSSun0obecause the GUI interface wasnt working11:08
neSSun0oeverything appeared to be all in weird pixels and mixed colours...11:08
JackWinteri tried to upgrade all packages this morning and it broke on libc6-i686.  how do i fix ?11:09
arty_neSSun0o: your compilation?11:09
neSSun0oarty_: ?11:09
arty_JackWinter: sudo apt-get autoremove and then sudo apt-get update and upgrade11:09
arty_neSSun0o: parameters of your pc11:10
neSSun0owhere do i find them?11:10
neSSun0oor which ones you want to know?11:10
mefisto__neSSun0o: try this then reboot: sudo apt-get install --reinstall hal11:10
arty_grafic cart11:10
arty_motherboard and cpu11:10
arty_and you fined in if you write in console lshw | less11:11
neSSun0oisnt this a windows way to solve things? :D11:11
neSSun0oarty_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/51213/11:12
mefisto__neSSun0o: reinstall hal, then reboot to see if that fixes it11:12
JackWinterarty_: the first command had this result, ok ? http://pastebin.ca/121220911:12
arty_neSSun0o: why 32bit system if you have dualcore?11:12
neSSun0oi dunno arty_11:13
neSSun0ou tell me11:13
neSSun0oim really a newbie11:13
neSSun0odont even know the difference between a 32 bit and a 64 one...11:13
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arty_JackWinter: yes11:19
kho_zhiyo11:19
bayerhi! it seems that my kde login is locked in some way. if i try to login i only see the background image and then it hangs up. any idea how to solve this?11:20
kubuntu_Hello, I'm trying to install Windows XP on a computer with Kubuntu installed11:21
favrobayer: try ctrl+alt+bkspace then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart11:21
favrobayer: ctrl+alt+F2 I meant11:21
Frekui think you 1st have to install windows  and then kubuntu11:21
kubuntu_Kubuntu was installed in the computer11:21
kubuntu_do I have to uninstall it?11:22
kubuntu_and how do I do that?11:22
Frekui think so11:22
Frekuif you want a dual boot system11:22
favrokubuntu_: no - it is just easier installing windows first11:22
Frekuah11:22
kubuntu_ok favro... how should I install XP?11:23
favrois there free space on the disk?11:23
mefisto__kubuntu_: you can install windows if you have disk space, then reinstall grub to get kubuntu to boot afterwards11:23
kubuntu_it's a 40GB hard drive with nothing but Kubuntu in it11:23
favrokubuntu_: windows can't resize a partition so you need to make free space first11:25
bayerfavro: i tried that, does not help :(11:25
kubuntu_ok I can wipe out Kubuntu, I probably won't need it11:25
Frekuafter some googling i found a tutorial11:25
Frekuhttp://davestechsupport.com/blog/2008/03/22/how-to-install-windows-after-ubuntu-with-gparted/11:26
kubuntu_I have Ubuntu on CD I can install later11:26
Frekuoh11:26
Frekuthen its easier11:26
favrobayer: I wonder if your vid card is having issues?11:27
Frekuto install xp11:27
mefisto__kubuntu_: just remember it will save you some time if you leave some unformatted space on the disk for linux, when you install windows11:27
kubuntu_thanks mefisto_11:28
favrobayer: I would boot into recovery and look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log11:28
bayerfavro: it worked some minutes ago, then i tried to login from another computer here and i think i have not shut down this pc properly. perhaps there are any locks?11:28
kubuntu_what do I need to do?11:29
favrobayer: is it a ssh login you're trying or something similar?11:30
bayerfavor: it is via NIS. i can login in failsafe and via console, but not with kdm11:34
favrobayer: I don't know anything about nis...11:35
blueeyezhi everybody:)11:36
kubuntu_how can I format the hard drive in Kubuntu? I want XP installed...11:37
kubuntu_Google isn't my friend :(11:38
favrokubuntu_: the windows cd will let you format partitions - you don't uninstall kubuntu11:41
mefisto__kubuntu_: xp will format it11:41
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favroyou just wipe the partition11:41
kubuntu_what button do I have to push after restart to make the XP CD run?11:41
kubuntu_it didn't autorun the last time I tried11:42
favroI hit the space button when it asks to hit a key11:42
kubuntu_well I'll jump ship and try that11:43
kubuntu_thanks for the help guys, sorry for being a nuisance :)11:43
mefisto__kubuntu_: some will boot from cd if you hit F8 (a menu will let you choose which disk to boot from) or change your bios settings11:43
bayerhow can i reinstall kde?11:47
favrobayer: I would --purge remove kdm then install kdm before reinstalling kde11:51
favrosudo apt-get --purge remove kdm11:52
lamb为什么KUBUNTU升级到8.1后变英文版了11:58
favro!english | lamb11:59
ubottulamb: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat11:59
stdinlamb: and 8.10 support in #ubuntu+112:00
bayerfavro: i reinstalled everything, but it does not work, how can i delete my personal kde configuration files?12:05
bayerfavro: perhaps there something is wrong12:05
favrobayer: they are in .kde in your home folder12:05
steveireHi. Can kubuntu-kde4 be installed easily on a gnome system?12:06
favrobayer: rm -rf ~/.kde12:06
Tm_Tbayer: it's better to move than remove12:06
Tm_Tfavro: same to you12:06
Tm_Tbayer: means, mv .kde .kde-temp12:06
stdinsteveire: yes, see http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.1 and #kubuntu-kde4 for support12:06
Tm_Tor similar12:06
skoleHi everyone! I want to insall opera browser. I can't find it with opera. I have downloadet a deb package, but how to install it?12:08
skole*fint it with adapt12:08
Tm_T!opera | skole12:09
ubottuskole: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser12:09
geek_skole: either double click it to get gdebi to install it, or use dpkg (if you want a cli way to install it)12:09
skolewhats the command to use dpkg?12:09
geek_er...12:10
geek_sudo dpkg -i foo.deb i think12:10
geek_!dpkg12:10
ubottudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.12:10
Tm_T:-P12:10
favrodpkg -i /path/to/file12:10
geek_*rolls eyes*. not TOO useful that...12:10
skolegeek_: foo.deb?12:11
geek_skole: opera.deb or whatever12:11
geek_you SHOULD be able to open the file to install it as well IIRC12:12
skolegeek_: When I click on the deb idolphin says: No archive loaded12:13
jmgvhello all, do you know if I can install kdevelop4 in kubuntu?12:13
stdinskole: try right-click -> Open With -> GDebi Package Installer12:13
jmgvi am trying to compile kdeverlop4 for myself but the kdelibs seems to be old12:13
jmgvCMake Error: ERROR: the installed kdelibs version 4.0.3 is too old, at least version 4.1.60 is required12:14
jmgvbut in the repository there is no one newer12:14
jmgvis there anyway to get it? i am using hardy12:14
skoleand G deb is under system?12:14
stdinjmgv: kdevelop4 needs KDE 4 trunk from SVN, you'd have to download and compile the relevant KDE 4 bits to compile kdevelop412:16
jmgvi have done it but12:16
jmgvi need  kdelibs version 4.1.6012:16
jmgvbut i have  kdelibs version 4.0.312:17
jmgvso, i dont know how intall 4.1.60 in hardy?12:17
jmgvit say that the newer is 4.0.312:17
stdinjmgv: read what I said again, you need KDE 4 trunk from SVN12:17
jmgvstdin okey, thanks12:17
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bayeri am using "kubuntu over ubuntu". so far i figured out, that i can login on gnome, but not on kde. how can i remove all kde stuff and reinstall it? apt-get remove kde does not work, it is only a meta package i think... kubuntu-desktop also does not solve my problem, any ideas?12:18
favro!puregnome12:19
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE packages and have a default !Ubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome »12:19
favrobayer: II would try that12:19
favro*I even12:20
bayerthat are a lot of packages...12:20
Agent_bobi have a strange occurance on a rmote box.  i have a while true loop running which i can't seem to kill.  i killed it's controlling login tty but it's still running and i can't find a pid for it  ;/    thoughts ?12:23
skoleThanks! gdebi was the smart thing to do. I did not have that program first, but i downloaded it fram adapt, and now I have opera!12:23
Agent_bobhow do things run without appearing in the process table ?12:24
arty_hi all is there any staff or program who tell me when I install me KUBUNTU on PC12:25
favrois it under bash?12:25
favroAgent_bob: ^12:25
Agent_bobfavro yes.  but no bash in the ps output12:26
arty_pls help12:26
Agent_bobfavro also it's on tty24 but nothing listed on that console12:27
Agent_bobfavro assuming your next Q will be something like how do i know the loop is still running...  the sleep command keeps re appearing in the process table on tty24 where the loop is running....12:28
arty_hi all is there any staff or program who tell me when I install me KUBUNTU on PC12:30
Agent_bobwell  i took it down.  re-killed all tty logins and it got it this time.12:30
Agent_bobarty_ /var/log/dpkg.log12:30
Agent_bobarty_ the listings are timestamped12:31
arty_Agent_bob: thx12:32
arty_Agent_bob: then write 1.9.2008 but I install in Jull or august12:32
Agent_bobarty_ month 9 is aug.12:33
Agent_bobno sep.12:33
Agent_bobseptember one two thousand eight12:34
skoleHi! My web bank says that I don't have java. I allways used Opera before, and no prob with java. I had this prbolem with firefox, but now it says the same with Opera. How to install all the java I need? anyone?12:34
arty_aug is 8 jul is 7 :)12:35
skoleI have just upgradet to KDE 4 with 8.0412:35
Agent_bob!kde412:35
ubottuKDE 4.1.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.1 - Support in #kubuntu-kde412:35
arty_!yakuake12:36
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about yakuake12:36
arty_!k3b12:36
ubottuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto12:36
Agent_bob!info yakuake | arty_12:36
ubottuarty_: yakuake (source: yakuake): a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.1-1ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 176 kB, installed size 1100 kB12:36
Agent_bob!msgthebot | arty_12:36
ubottuarty_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubottu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.12:36
wiehanskole i'm no expert at this, but can't you just reinstall the java (jre) from the repos?12:37
skolewiehan: what is repos?12:37
Agent_bob!repos > skole12:38
ubottuskole, please see my private message12:38
arun_hi12:39
arun_now im using mysql12:39
wiehandoes anyone know anything about linuxmint (i know: off-topic - but I can't find my answer) - is the default (main edition) 32bit or 64bit - it makes no statement anywhere?!12:39
arun_i finding some error like this when creating database12:40
arun_Access denied for user ''@'localhost' to database 'studentmarks'12:40
arun_please tell some sollution12:40
Agent_boberror == { username == '' }       i.e. no username supplied12:41
comedithow can easily check if te 64-bit version or the 32-bit version of kubuntu is installed12:41
Agent_bobcomedit uname -a12:41
comeditthanks12:42
Agent_bobcomedit uname displayes information about the running kernel.   very handy.12:42
arun_sorry i cant get12:42
comeditok this makes it stranged i have installed Kubuntu 64 (as I was convinced of) but the sound is not working12:44
arun_Access denied for user ''@'localhost' to database 'studentmarks'12:44
comeditso i use synaptic however the liba64asound2 is not in the list12:44
comeditstrange is that my kubuntu-32 Virtual installation (virtual box) with the same repositories12:45
comedithowever lists it12:45
comeditsince my hostserver has no sound my guest hasn't either12:46
skoleI now know what repositories is. But when I click on the download java button in my browser, i get to the java homepage. It says that I can install java for linyx. But what choice shall I make here? What is linux (RPM) self extracting file?12:46
Agent_bob!java | skole12:47
ubottuskole: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper12:47
comeditanybody an idea what could be wrong with my sound repository issue ?12:48
Agent_bob!info liba64asound2 | comedit12:49
ubottucomedit: Package liba64asound2 does not exist in hardy12:49
Agent_bob!sound | comedit have you been here ->12:49
skoleubottu: Im on kubuntu 8.04 KDE12:50
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:50
comeditmm how can it be listed then in in my hardy-32 then ??12:50
Agent_bob<comedit> mm how can it be listed then in in my hardy-32 then ?? <<< non-standard repo in /etc/apt/sources.list maybe.12:52
comeditas said both installations have the same repositories only one is host to this virtual-32 version12:52
Agent_bob!sound | comedit have you been here -12:52
ubottucomedit have you been here -: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP312:52
comeditlets approach diffrently: thanks ubotto although you are a bot12:53
Agent_bobanother answer might be that the package "liba64asound2" is only avalable for 32bit and that ubottu searched the 64bit section,   an even more likely answer is "typo"   however that's all i can do seeing i run dapper.12:54
Agent_boblib64asound2 - ALSA library (64bit)12:54
Agent_boblib64asound2-dev - ALSA library development files (64 bit)12:54
Agent_bobalways check spelling.12:55
Agent_bob!info lib64asound2 | skole correctly spelled --12:55
ubottuskole correctly spelled --: lib64asound2 (source: alsa-lib): ALSA library (64bit). In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.15-3ubuntu4 (hardy), package size 347 kB, installed size 940 kB12:55
skolewhat is best, sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre. Im running on kubuntu 8.04 KDE 412:56
Agent_bob!best12:57
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.12:57
bayer now i removed kubuntu-desktop and all other packages and re-installed it. result is, that i still cannot login to kde, just to gnome / console / failsafe. i even removed my .kde folder. what else can i do? are there other kde specific files/folders or even locks for certain users?12:59
Agent_bobbayer  might look for a ~/.kderc   or ~/.qtrc  which could be an issue.   also   ~/.xinitrc   or ~/.*ession*13:02
skoleMy consern is if it will work. I do not know the differens. is sun-java6-jre newer than sun-java5-jre? I am a newbe to all of this, so i'm sorry if I do not ask the correct questions13:02
Agent_bobalso delete any /tmp/.<yourname>kde<junk>     lastly  ~/.dmrc13:03
Agent_bobskole general rule on package name versioning,   higher number is always newer.   "but not always better"13:04
comeditagentbob i searched in synaptic just on lib64 and no results -> I am working my way though the oubleshooting now13:04
Agent_bobcomedit if all else fails there is an #alsa official support channel here on freenode too.13:07
Agent_bobcomedit also, being toward the end of the sabath day, it's not the best time to find help either.13:09
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mackike/exit13:17
v6lur_hi. has anyone else problems with compiz fusion and kopete's balloon notification?13:20
v6lur_the balloon won't show up13:20
v6lur_(hardy, kde 3.5.10, cf 0.7.9 (git) )13:20
v6lur_when using kwin, the balloon shows up nicely13:20
RurouniJones!compiz | v6lur_13:21
ubottuv6lur_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion13:21
v6lur_they didn't know. someone had it working ok on mandriva & opensuse13:21
v6lur_thought it may be (k)ubuntu specific13:21
tim_i have a problem installing wc3, installed by clicking the installer.exe and everything seems to be fine, but when i want to start it, the screen stays black13:22
eagles0513875hey all13:44
starenkahi13:51
eagles0513875hhey13:51
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Denisesomeone can do a message for me?14:00
Denisetell to alibaba to take the bus14:00
Tm_T!offtopic14:00
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!14:00
go_beep_yourselfhello14:04
go_beep_yourselfis kttsd required to get ksayit to have sound?14:04
Tm_Tgo_beep_yourself: I think yes14:05
go_beep_yourselfis it possible to use voices from windows programs in ksayit? such as the ones from second speech center?14:10
Tm_Tno idea, I guess not in any way14:11
pietrekhi all14:12
pietreksą tu jacyś polacy ?14:13
cosmofield!po14:14
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about po14:14
cosmofield!pl14:14
ubottuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl14:14
pietrekaha...14:14
eeehello14:17
eeei need help to my wirless nettwork on acer14:18
eeeanyone can help me?14:18
Agent_bob!wifi14:18
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs14:18
eeeok14:19
eeecan anyone help me? I need help whit my wirless on "Acer Aspire 5720Z" i can not active it on the key on my bord14:23
eeecan anyone help me? I need help whit my wirless on "Acer Aspire 5720Z" i can not active it on the key on my bord14:24
eeecan anyone help me? I need help whit my wirless on "Acer Aspire 5720Z" i can not active it on the key14:25
cosmofield!repeat14:25
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience14:25
eeeoh sry!14:25
RurouniJones!no | eee14:29
ubottueee: Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!14:29
RurouniJonesThey might be able to help in your native language14:29
eeeok det er greit!14:29
anger_Hello. Any of you knows a brazilian distribution called Kurumi-NG?14:35
anger_!br14:37
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt por ajuda em português. Obrigado.14:37
eeehow to find what nettwork drivers/nettwork card i use?14:45
lain_wiredHullo all, I 'm having some annoying video playback issues.14:46
lain_wiredSpecifically, there are odd patches of colour across the screen, predominately green at the moment, though that may be immaterial.14:46
lain_wiredAny idea what this could be caused by?14:46
eeehow to find what Driver/nettwork-card i use?14:47
lain_wiredeee: we can see you, please just wait, and in the mean time, refer to google.14:48
eeeok14:49
lain_wiredhttp://taufanlubis.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/check-your-hardware-information-using-hwinfo-in-ubuntu/ - this might help.14:49
go_beep_yourselfcan someone give me an example of what goes after espeak -v? ive tried espeak -v en-n and and espeak -v /usr/share/espeak-data/voices/en/en-n14:55
lain_wiredAdditional info: I've checked that the correct driver is installed, and all other graphical aspects seem fine (other than a few times when the screen resolution was wrong, but I believe that was related to the new monitor)14:56
go_beep_yourselfim trying to get different voices for text to speech with espeak14:56
lain_wiredHm. go_beep_yourself: I'm not familiar with that software. Does it work well?14:57
eeedo anyone work on my problem????15:01
go_beep_yourselflain_wired hard to say yet15:02
claudiosalve15:02
claudioho appena installato kubuntu15:02
claudiocome si attiva compiz-fusion?15:02
Tm_T!it claudio15:02
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about it claudio15:02
claudiosu ubuntu era già attivo appena installato ubuntu15:02
go_beep_yourself!espeak15:02
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about espeak15:02
Tm_T!it | claudio15:02
ubottuclaudio: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)15:02
go_beep_yourself!text to speech15:03
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about text to speech15:03
go_beep_yourself!tts15:03
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about tts15:03
go_beep_yourself!do you know anything15:03
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:03
Tm_Tgo_beep_yourself: stop abusing the bot15:03
claudioI can speak  english15:03
claudioi've installed kubuntu 8.04 but by default compiz-fusion is disabled15:03
Tm_Tyes15:04
Tm_T!compiz | claudio15:04
claudiohow can I enable it?15:04
ubottuclaudio: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion15:04
eeehello i have an "Acer Aspire 5720Z" and my wirless nettwork board can't be turned on!15:05
Tm_Teee: son, you are repeating (:15:06
eeeok15:06
eeehave knubutu any game's?15:10
Tm_Tyes15:12
Tm_T!games15:12
ubottuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php15:12
Fieldy!nxclient15:13
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about nxclient15:13
Fieldy!freenx15:13
ubottuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX15:13
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Fieldyokay. I don't see nxclient in adept package manager, am i doing something wrong?15:15
Fieldyurl doesn't mention anything about adding repos etc15:15
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DFCJhi@all15:17
[ds14]foresthi15:18
DFCJich hätte mal eine frage.... ich habe endlich wieder kubuntu auf meinem neuem laptop aber der sound will nich... kann mir da jmd helfen?15:18
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RurouniJones!de | DFC15:18
ubottuDFC: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de15:18
eeehow to run a exe file?15:24
Tm_T!wine | eee15:24
ubottueee: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.15:24
geek_!wine15:24
geek_oops15:24
vamsican someone please help me setup floppy drive inubuntu?15:24
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vikkui just loaded a cd into cdrom but iam not able to view its content16:12
robert__hello :) Im a newbie wondering how to install my dvd-rom ( cddvdw sh-s202n )16:17
robert__someone who can help?16:18
eeehelp!!!! my Web cam dosnt seem to work! can anybody help me?16:20
eeeobs! it work's now :P youst wrong program!16:21
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thoris there a command or a program to see if the my webcam is working ?16:25
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ubuntu__hi16:30
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eeehow to erace/attack a process?16:35
ign0ramuseee: man killall16:36
eee???16:37
ign0ramuseee: or you can use ctrl+alt+esc to point to which window you want to kill16:37
eeeok16:38
ign0ramuseee: also 'sudo ksysguard' will give you like a Task Manager on Windows16:38
eeeis it not prosess es on ubuntu?16:38
ign0ramuseee: i don't understand your question.16:39
eeehm...16:39
eeeis it not prosess es on kubuntu?16:40
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ign0ramusis what not process on kubuntu?16:40
eeelol never main it!16:41
ign0ramusok16:41
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ninixanyone already has this problem: my kwin don't start anymore at startup16:44
surgywhats the package name, of the package that needs to be installed in order for k3b to have mp3 support?16:44
WeeJayDoes anyone know if I can run an older kernel from (kubuntu 8.0.4) on intrepid?16:45
ninixsurgy: k3b- extracodes ... something like that16:45
ign0ramussurgy: sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp316:45
surgythnx, but i allready new the command :) just needed the package16:46
ninixlibk3b3-extracodecs16:47
eeehow to operative windows programs in Linux-Kubuntu16:47
ign0ramuseee: for free? Wine16:47
eeeWine?16:47
ign0ramusWine.16:47
surgyign0ramus: libk3b2-mp3 has no installation candidate. ninix thanks for info16:47
ign0ramussurgy: ah, yes, libk3b2-extracodecs replaced libk3b2-mp3.  my mistake16:48
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eeecan you give me a sure webside to Wine For Kubuntu16:49
eeethe dowload site16:49
ign0ramushttp://www.winehq.org/16:50
ign0ramuseee: in spanish - http://www.winehq.org/site/?lang=es16:50
ninixnormally, the official site is always a SURE site ;)16:50
eeeok but im from Norway16:51
ign0ramuseee: oh, by the way you type, i thought you spoke spanish16:51
eeebut i closed start-tollbar   how to active16:51
eeehehe16:51
eeeim not soo god in English16:51
ign0ramuseee: alt+f2 > kicker16:52
eeeTnx16:52
cosmofieldIs it safe to remove postskript fonts and other fonts in the font manager? I have over 100 fonts that I do'nt use16:54
ign0ramuscosmofield: i think all your fonts are in fonts:/System  ... you should be able to remove ones that you don't want16:56
cosmofieldI don't have a printer, can I remove all postskript fonts?16:58
ign0ramuscosmofield: also, fonts in /usr/share/fonts ... don't know why you'd want to delete them16:59
ign0ramuscosmofield: each font is in only KB's17:00
cosmofieldin the font manager the total size is about 199 MB and I use a small ssd-disk17:01
ign0ramuscosmofield: what font manager are you using?17:01
Fieldyhello, i installed privoxy. how can i configure the service to be started at boot, instead of having to manually run /etc/init.d/privoxy start ?17:01
cosmofieldign0ramus: kcontrol -> System Administration -> Font Manager17:02
ign0ramusFieldy: it's installed as a service, it should automatically run at startup17:02
KRFFieldy, update-rc.d privoxy defaults17:02
Fieldyign0ramus: ah okay17:02
Fieldyi will also try what KRF said17:02
FieldySystem startup links for /etc/init.d/privoxy already exist.17:03
Fieldycool thanks :)17:03
ign0ramuscosmofield: i don't see why you wouldn't be able to remove them... I would make a backup first, try things without them, and when you're comfortable, just delete the backup17:05
ign0ramuscosmofield: I'm just wondering if they're used for other things, like .pdfs and such17:05
ign0ramusis there a particular mount point recommend for mounting an .iso?17:11
ign0ramusor can i just create one anywhere?17:11
zabbadappin KDE4, i see that Konsole can have split terminals .. but only horiz or vert. Not any combination like in emacs. I can't do any splits in Kate the texteditor, and I can't dock in Kate into Konsole ... But amusingly Kate can have one split with a terminal ... Shouldn't all this tabbing and splitting have been done on a lower system level, rather than each application on its own? Like Fluxbox does, but also with splits?17:12
cosmofieldign0ramus: True, I forgot that, seems that I need to keep some fonts for pdfs :/17:15
ign0ramuscosmofield: I'm not positive that is the case... did you find some info saying that you need these fonts?17:16
cosmofieldign0ramus:  I don't know, but I feel that I need some fonts to wiev pdf files. I don't know how pdf works17:16
ign0ramuscosmofield: yeah, i don't know enough about .ps fonts to recommend getting rid of them...17:17
eeehow to use exe programs!17:18
ign0ramuscosmofield: but you can also sort your fonts by size, and remove any normal fonts you don't use- i'm sure there will be a bunch17:18
ign0ramuseee: wine17:18
eeeoh but how  to use wine17:18
cosmofieldYes I will soon re-install anyway, then I will start with a clean command line install17:19
ign0ramuseee: do you have it installed?17:19
eeeyes17:19
pepe#test17:19
ign0ramuseee: the simplest way is to click ont the .exe, which wine should open17:19
eeeok17:19
ign0ramuseee: what program are you trying to use?  Wine cannot run every Windows app.17:19
eeeinstall windows messenger17:20
ign0ramuseee: there are better, native apps for kubuntu that will do the same thing17:20
zabbadappwill Kubuntu8.10 only have kde4? or is it still experimental and kde3.x is the main? If kde3.x is no more, is it possible to upgrade a 8.04 kde3.x to 8.10 and still keep kde3.x?17:20
ninixdon't install this "!17:20
ninix:)17:20
ign0ramuseee: why not use Kopete, Pidgin, aMsn, etc?  No Windows API necessary17:21
eeeoh is that a difference?17:21
ign0ramuszabbadapp: intrepid will ship with kde4 only17:21
ninixpidgin is a great simple msn client. amsn: a more similar to MSN messenger17:22
KRFeee, no. you can use several clients for the msn protocol17:22
ign0ramuseee: you should already have Kopete- open it and configure your Windows Messenger account17:22
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eeekopete???17:22
zabbadappeee: there is also http://mercury.im written in java that supports alot of exotic msn features when I last tested it (much more than aMsn and Kopete at the time)17:22
zabbadappign0ramus: but i don't "like" kde4!!! (part joke, part true ... i tried it in 8.04 and 8.10 and it still feels like things are missing from what 3.x can do)17:24
eeeok but how to install?17:24
cosmofield!kopete17:25
ubottuInstant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, YIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and, in KDE 3, IRC. See also !Pidgin17:25
eeeok but how to install17:25
ign0ramuszabbadapp: i'm with you, i'm still trying to figure out if KDE 3.5.x will run smoothly under Intrepid.  If not, I will wait to upgrade until KDE4 becomes more usable :/17:25
cosmofield!info kopete-kde417:26
ubottukopete-kde4 (source: kdenetwork-kde4): instant messenger for KDE 4. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.0.3-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 5901 kB, installed size 15248 kB17:26
eee??????????17:26
mrunagianyone had issues with firefox giving black windows then locking up?17:26
ign0ramuseee: check under "Internet" in your programs menu- you may already have it17:26
cosmofieldeee: if you donät have kopete installed, you can install it with the command 'sudo apt-get install kopete-kde4'17:27
eeeno i don't have it17:27
eeeok17:27
ign0ramuscosmofield: i'd stick with the kde3 version...17:27
cosmofieldign0ramus: I feel the same, will not even kde3 be avaiable anywhere17:27
latexinkHello all.. would this be a good place to ask for help with compiz fusion?17:28
ign0ramusimho, kde4 will be awesome once the bugs are worked out - it already is visually stunning, but too many crashes, locks, and freezes for me to use comfortably.  Plus it seems like a lot of things are missing and/or incomplete17:29
kho_zhihey17:29
kho_zhidude17:29
kho_zhiy kopete can crash de17:29
eeeok but what is normal Download speed Kb/s17:29
ign0ramuseee: depends on your connection and the server you are downloading from.  there is no 'normal'17:30
eeeoh17:30
ign0ramuslatexink: you can always ask here, but there #compiz-fusion is probably the best place to ask17:31
latexinkthanks ig17:31
ign0ramusnp17:31
eeeit dosn't seem to work17:32
sidussalve a tutti17:33
cosmofieldeee: what happen?17:33
zabbadappign0ramus: visually stunning for a screenshot, but rather many different styles of gui at once. And i don't like the iconset ... It lacks perspective it think, i.e. a frontal view of a folder will always look ugly!17:33
sidushi people some one can help me? i have problem with sound17:34
eeei did the sudo comand you told me and i cant find the program17:34
ign0ramuszabbadapp: yeah, but those things can be customized, and the graphical capabilities are superior to kde 3.5.x ... unfortunately, the way it looks is its biggest strength right now, and I firmly belive form follows function17:34
ign0ramus!ask | sidus17:35
ubottusidus: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)17:35
sidusok im sorry this is my first day of chatting with kubuntu with this program :P17:35
ign0ramussidus: np - so what's your problem?17:36
carpiican someone recomend a nice php (or multipurpose) ide, with svn support please17:36
eeei did the sudo comand you told me and i cant find the program17:36
cosmofieldeee: did you run the command in the terminal?17:36
sidusim italian and my english is very bad ...i try to explain my problem, plaese just a minuts17:36
eeeyes17:36
eeebut i'm trying Again17:37
cosmofieldeee: exactly what was the error message? seems very strange :/17:37
eeenot error msg17:37
concernedcitizenhi guys, where do deleted files go? is there like a 'trash bin' or something?17:37
eeei can't find the program i have installed17:37
ign0ramuscarpii: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE17:37
sidusi have problem with sound17:38
sidusi cant listen sound simultanee17:38
sidusand i cant listen the "music" when start kde and when i shot down the session17:38
cosmofieldeee: the program should be in the menu, or type 'kopete' to start it17:38
ign0ramusconcernedcitizen: yes, there is "Trash", which may be on your kicker panel, or can be found at trash:/17:38
carpiisorry i got disconnected if anyone said anything (ide for php with svn)17:38
ign0ramuscarpii: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE17:38
carpiiok ill check it out, thanks17:39
concernedcitizenthanks17:39
ign0ramussidus: is it only when using sound in a browser?17:39
zabbadappign0ramus: yes, but someone spent a lot of time to do very flat looking -- yet still photorealistic wannabe -- icons ... that I will replace? However, I am glad that they did not follow the Tango icon guidelines, because those colors are so "dirty".17:39
sidusno, i cant listen more program with using sound, example, youtube with xmms/amarok or teamspeak17:40
ign0ramuszabbadapp: any of the tango or 'human' themes are hideous... just my opinion, but seems to be shared with others17:41
eeeTnx it work't17:41
zabbadappign0ramus: :-) exactly!!!17:42
ign0ramussidus: try installing libflashsupport17:42
ign0ramuseee: 'sudo apt-get install kopete' ... then tell me what it says17:42
ign0ramussidus: then restart firefox and try two different sound sources17:43
Imposiblehello17:43
sidusok17:43
ImposibleI've been having problems installing nvidia driver can someone give a tip or something?17:44
ign0ramusImposible: what card?17:44
Imposible6500 GO17:44
Imposiblei guess i've read almost all the forums17:45
sidusdont works libflashsupport17:45
ign0ramussidus: you have sound set to ALSA?17:45
eeeheeeh it work's now17:45
thorimposible did you installed the nvidia driver?17:45
ign0ramusImposible: its not supported, but have you tried Envy?  Again, not supported, but makes the process very easy17:46
ImposibleEnvy no i didnt try17:46
jussi01!envy17:46
ubottuenvyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) we suggest you use envyng if every other (official/supported) method fails! it can have various results from works, to fails!!!  if you want the very latest drivers from the manufacturer you use them at your own risk17:46
sidus!ask ign0ramus17:46
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ask ign0ramus17:46
sidus!ask | ign0ramus17:46
ubottuign0ramus: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)17:46
sidus|ask | ign0ramus17:46
Imposiblei try to install NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.12-pkg1.run17:47
sidusno17:47
ign0ramussidus: dude, what the heck are you doing?17:47
sidus17:48
sidushow do I know which device I'm using?17:48
eee 17:48
eee 17:48
eee 17:48
eee 17:48
eeeobs17:48
ign0ramussidus: kcontrol > Sound & Multimedia > Sound System17:49
sidusis setting by default: automatic select device17:50
ign0ramussidus: yes, but you can try ALSA, and see if the sound issue disappears... you can always set it back to Auto (plus, this will restart your sound server, so that's good too) :-)17:51
sidusi have delete all alsa system17:52
ign0ramussidus: you what?17:52
sidusfor try, now i can resistall all alsa?17:52
sidusi delete alsamixer17:52
ign0ramussidus: 'sudo apt-get install alsa-base' should do it17:52
sidusok it is donw17:53
sidus*done17:53
sidusnow?17:53
ign0ramussidus: try to set default to ALSA in Sound System17:54
sidusi put alsa17:54
sidusnow?17:54
ign0ramussidus: then hit 'apply'17:54
sidusit is done17:54
ign0ramussidus: and you installed 'libflashsupport'?17:55
sidusyeah i have the last version17:55
ign0ramussidus: restart firefox, and try two sound sources17:55
sidusnothing17:56
sidusdont work17:56
ign0ramussidus: when you say 'don't work', what specifically is not working... do you have sound on like youtube on its own (no other apps running)?17:57
siduswhen i listen music in amarok i cant listen youtube17:59
sidusand vice-cersa17:59
sidusand vice-versa17:59
ign0ramussidus:  hmmm.. hang on- eating :-)18:00
sidusok18:01
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cosmofieldIs there a support channel for truecrypt? :/18:07
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ign0ramussidus: you still there?18:08
sidusim here18:09
ign0ramussidus: ok, we'll install Flash10, which doesn't have the sound problems Flash9 has18:09
ign0ramusOK?18:10
sidusok we can try yo install flash 1018:10
sidushow i do?18:10
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ign0ramussidus: first, run 'sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree'18:10
ign0ramussidus: you may or may not have this package installed, if not, no problems18:11
sidusi remove it?18:11
ign0ramussidus: yeah18:11
ign0ramusthe repos only have Flash 918:12
sidusok, consolle say me: with this package "nspluginwrapper" has been install before i can use "apt-get autoremove" for remove it18:12
sidusi remove it?18:12
ign0ramuswait.18:12
eeeHow to install Firefox?18:13
sidussudo apt-get install firefox18:13
eeeok18:13
eeei love this18:13
ign0ramussidus: are you running 64bit anything?18:13
sidusyes18:13
sidusi have 64 bi18:13
sidusbit18:13
ign0ramussidus: ohhh... that changes things.  hang on for a moment.  Flash on 64bit is weird.18:14
sidusok18:14
zabbadappign0ramus: i just did apt-get install flash-nonfree on my 64-bit kubuntu, and it works rather fine in firefox3 ... i was surprised actually.18:15
kabotagehi how do i remove all gnome apps??18:15
sidusi have install flash with this guide: http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-flash-player9-on-64bit-linux18:15
sidusbut is flash918:15
sidusnot 1018:15
ign0ramussidus: maybe zabbadapp can be a better help, 64bit is different, and I don't have much experience with it18:16
ign0ramuszabbadapp: can you use an app like Amarok, and play a flash file, and have sound in both?18:17
zabbadappign0ramus sidus: i didn't see that you were talking about flash 10  ... mine is flash 9 from the kubuntu repos18:17
sidusbut my problem is dont have flash9 or 1018:17
ign0ramuszabbadapp: yeah, he's having problems with sound in a kde app and in flash simultaneously18:18
sidusmy problem is the audio simultane i cant listen18:18
ign0ramuszabbadapp: this is easily fixed in Flash 10, but i'm not sure how that would work in 64bit18:18
sidusfor example if there are two or tree program with use audio i can listen only the first with i launch18:18
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spookyhello kubuntu users18:19
azaragonehiauhiuahaia18:19
ign0ramussidus: Aha!  See here: http://www.myscienceisbetter.info/2008/05/install-adobe-flash-player-10-on-ubuntu-using-nspluginwrapper.html18:19
spookyneed help18:21
zabbadappign0ramus: yes, I'm running two youtube-clips (with sound) and playing a song in amarok now at the same time, and I hear them all.18:21
siduswhy i cant see?18:21
spookycan anyone help me ?18:21
sidusi cant hear*?18:21
sidusi dont think with is problem of flash18:21
ign0ramuszabbadapp: did you ever have any issues with sound, or did it work OOB?18:21
ign0ramussidus: you said you lose sound from Amarok or other apps when you go to Youtube or whatever.  That's the typical Flash problem many people have had18:22
spookyI want to permantly mount a smb share in my kububtu . How to do this ?18:22
zabbadappign0ramus: OOB, with the exception that I had to turn up some volume in alsamixer (no sound at all to begin with) ... and like I said, I was surprised that flash worked that well in 64-bit by simply apt-get install:ing it.18:23
azaragone:)18:23
azaragone;)18:23
thorcan i watch a movie from an iso image ?18:23
ign0ramushttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/23605218:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 236052 in flashplugin-nonfree "After Playing Flash video, No sound in other programs (dup-of: 29760)" [Undecided,Incomplete]18:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 29760 in flashplugin-nonfree "Sound does not work properly in Flash in firefox" [Low,Fix released]18:23
zabbadappthor: VLC i know, but probably mplayer too.18:24
sidusi dont lose the sound, for example im now listen music if now i go in youtube i dont hear nothing, if stop amarok and try to restart it, amarok dont start becose there is another app with block it18:24
sidusand for listen music i must kill it18:24
thorok. i'll try18:24
ign0ramussidus: you must kill what - firefox?18:24
sidusfirefox18:25
siduswhat i control18:25
sidusfirefox or npviewer.bin18:25
ign0ramusyes, did you see the launchpad bug 236052 i just posted above?  That is the same issue you are having18:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 236052 in flashplugin-nonfree "After Playing Flash video, No sound in other programs (dup-of: 29760)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23605218:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 29760 in flashplugin-nonfree "Sound does not work properly in Flash in firefox" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2976018:25
ign0ramussidus: its a flash/firefox issue, and can be easily resolved by installing flash1018:26
sidusare u sure?18:26
ign0ramussidus: does not describe your problem exactly?18:26
ign0ramus*does it not18:26
zabbadappis flash10 final?18:27
sidussorry my english is a shit can u repeaT? :P18:27
ign0ramuszabbadapp: no, but release candidate... it's past beta18:27
ign0ramussidus: read the bug report - is this not the problem you were explaining?18:27
eagles0513875!temperature18:28
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about temperature18:28
eagles0513875is there any package that monitors temperature of cpu and other parts18:28
ghostcubelm-sensors18:30
ghostcubeand gkrellm18:30
ign0ramuseagles0513875: also, http://packages.ubuntu.com/uk/hardy/hardware-monitor18:31
eagles0513875ign0ramus: that site has russian txt lol18:32
ign0ramuseagles0513875: the package is maintained by a russian dude18:33
eagles0513875ign0ramus: thing is im on kde18:33
eagles0513875will it still work18:33
ign0ramus!xmbmon18:33
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about xmbmon18:33
ign0ramuseagles0513875: i don't see why not... and you can always just uninstall if you decide you don't like it  :-)18:33
ign0ramuseagles0513875: also, you can check xmbmon - it's in the repos18:34
eagles0513875ok18:34
sidussudo nspluginwrapper -i /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so18:37
sidus*** NSPlugin Viewer  *** ERROR: libnss3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory18:38
sidusnspluginwrapper: no appropriate viewer found for /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so18:38
sidushelp18:38
eeehow to make a program?18:40
ign0ramussidus: try 'sudo nspluginwrapper -i /home/YOURUSERNAME/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so18:40
ign0ramussidus: wait, are you following the tutorial i posted above?18:40
sidusye18:41
sidusyes18:41
sidusi try it18:41
ign0ramussidus: if you are, you need to make a symlink first: 'sudo cp install_flash_player_10_linux/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/'18:41
ign0ramussidus: well, it's not a symlink, but it needs to be copied over18:42
shepherd#chemistry18:42
sidus$ sudo nspluginwrapper -i /home/sidus/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so18:43
sidusnspluginwrapper: /home/sidus/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so is not a valid NPAPI plugin18:43
ign0ramussidus: hang on... there's a problem with the url in the tutorial18:43
eeeanybody know about a good game for windows?18:44
ign0ramussidus: we'll have to modify step 3 in the tutorial18:45
ign0ramussidus: have you done everything from steps 1 and 2 so far?18:45
sidusster 1 is donw18:46
sidusstep 2 is done18:46
ign0ramussidus: Step 3.0 :  "cd ~"18:47
ign0ramussidus: step 3.1 "wget http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_linux_091508.tar.gz"18:47
sidusyes yes18:47
sidusi have download that18:47
sidusnow i have done step 318:47
ign0ramussidus: no, the link in the tutorial is different18:47
bdizzlehi, for some reason I can't get my camera to interface with the computer. It will detect it and load it, but it claims it cannot get the camera to "lock" ?18:48
ign0ramussidus: that's why you are having problems... the url in the tutorial is wrong18:48
ign0ramussidus: please follow my steps18:48
sidusyes i see18:48
sidusi ahve download already your post it18:48
sidusi have see with in the tutorial is wrong18:48
sidusand i have find where i can download flash 1018:49
sidushave u undestand?18:49
ign0ramusstep 3.2: tar zxvf flashplayer10_install_linux_091508.tar.gz18:49
sidusi have already done it18:50
ign0ramussidus: step 3.3: sudo cp install_flash_player_10_linux/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/18:50
ign0ramussidus: step 4: sudo nspluginwrapper -i /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so18:51
eeemy wirless nettwork card dosn't seem to work!18:51
ign0ramusthis is where you were having problems before...18:51
eeei use acer18:51
sidus$  sudo nspluginwrapper -i /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so18:51
sidus*** NSPlugin Viewer  *** ERROR: libnss3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory18:51
sidusnspluginwrapper: no appropriate viewer found for /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so18:51
bdizzle!camera18:51
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about camera18:51
ign0ramussidus: hmmmm....18:51
bdizzle!digikam18:51
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about digikam18:51
eeemy wirless nettwork card dosn't seem to work on my acer laptop18:52
eeemy wirless nettwork card dosn't seem to work on my acer laptop18:52
bdizzle!digiKam18:52
ign0ramussidus: if you navigate to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ in Konqueror, is the libflashplayer.so file located there?18:52
sidusyes18:52
sidusthere is one file18:53
sidus"libflashplayer.so" this is the name of file18:53
sidusin the dir  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/18:53
ign0ramussidus: yes, that is how it should be, i'm trying to figure out why nspluginwrapper is giving you trouble - the file and directory obviously exists18:53
jussi01eee: first, please dont repeat so often, second, could you pastebin the output of the command: lspci18:54
jussi01!paste | eee18:54
ubottueee: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)18:54
freddy_hoola18:59
freddy_Porfa alguien me puede ayudar con los escritorios18:59
freddy_no me muestra el menu de escritorios19:00
freddy_ademas no puedo poner 4 esccritorios me permito uno solo19:00
jussi01!es19:02
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.19:02
neSSun0odoesn anyone use aMsn? how is it?19:03
ign0ramussidus: can you try installing latest libnss? http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nss/libnss3-1d_3.12.0.3-0ubuntu5_i386.deb19:04
sidusno19:05
siduswhich i must install?19:07
sidusany sujest?19:08
ubuntu_Are installations of Kubuntu from the DVD supported?19:08
joshuajtlhey folks, when I plug in my mouse (usb wireless) it's not working (it used to no problem, I havent' used it in some time) help?19:09
sidusthis package is for i38619:10
ign0ramussidus: you need the libs for i38619:11
ign0ramus'sudo apt-get install libnss3-1d libnspr4-0d libcurl3' will give you the necessary libs19:11
ign0ramussidus: from the tutorial page: http://www.myscienceisbetter.info/2008/05/install-adobe-flash-player-10-on-ubuntu-using-nspluginwrapper.html#comment-473219:12
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Farghhow do I get rid of being asked for sudo password  ?  I editted visudo and added this line19:14
Farghname   ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /bin/chmod19:14
Farghwhat else is needed ?19:14
siduslibnss3-1d19:15
sidus libnspr4-0d19:15
sidus libcurl319:15
sidusi have already this package install19:15
eagles0513875im having a problem with hal i am unable to mount my dvd drive so i can access the media thats in it19:15
eagles0513875it keeps saying feature available with hal19:15
ign0ramussidus: i'm just following the tutorial... if its not working for you, maybe someone else with 64bit can help19:16
sidus:(19:16
eagles0513875im having a problem with hal i am unable to mount my dvd drive so i can access the media thats in it keeps saying feature available with hal19:17
ign0ramusFargh: "user ALL=NOPASSWD:ALL" works for me.  Insert your username for 'user'19:18
targethi!19:18
Farghk19:18
Farghno service need restart ?19:18
ign0ramusFargh: you may need to restart x (ctrl+alt+backspace)19:19
ign0ramusFargh: ... and i don't need to remind you that to some, this is insecure, right?19:19
Farghyep19:19
ign0ramusFargh: sudo is there for a reason, but in my case, i'm the only one that uses this lappy, so for me its no problem19:19
eagles0513875im having a problem with hal i am unable to mount my dvd drive so i can access the media thats in it keeps saying feature available with hal same thing with the machine that im on19:20
Farghsame here .. only one to use this desktop19:20
targeti've to: modifying your LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment variable because of that : http://paste.ubuntu.com/51342/19:20
ign0ramusFargh: then no real harm, i guess. as you know, if anyone else does use your computer, they will not need a password19:21
targetbut i'm totaly lost...19:21
ign0ramusFargh: you already know, but i feel obligated to say so19:21
targeti really don't know what i'm suppose to do...19:21
targetcan anyone help me to figure it out plz?19:24
eagles0513875im having a hal issue its saying that the feature is only available in hal when i double click on my cd drive or my hdd19:26
ign0ramuseagles0513875: i take it you have package 'hal' installed, yes?19:31
eagles0513875ign0ramus: yes19:31
eagles0513875ign0ramus: isnt it part of default install19:31
ign0ramuseagles0513875: it should be.  if you run 'sudo apt-get install hal', what does it say?19:32
eagles0513875already newest version19:33
ign0ramuseagles0513875: ok... lemme look around19:33
eagles0513875k ty19:33
ign0ramuseagles0513875: when you navigate to media:/ in Konqueror, can you see your hard disks?19:33
eagles0513875ign0ramus: just checked fstab and its listed in there19:34
eagles0513875ign0ramus: let me try what u said and mount via cli19:34
eagles0513875there is a severe bug in hal19:37
eagles0513875ign0ramus: it seems to work when i mount with cli but from storage media gui it wont work19:37
gkffjcshey all, is the iso on the website, that says kde4 4.0 or 4.1?19:37
ign0ramuseagles0513875: that's strange.  :/19:38
eagles0513875now how can i access my hdd cuz im trying to mount it in cli19:38
gkffjcshttp://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download, if I select kde 4 will it give me kde4.1 or 4.0? sorry, hope that is clearer19:38
eagles0513875but wont let me mount it and i cant in storage media gui19:38
eagles0513875ign0ramus: bug filing time19:39
ign0ramuseagles0513875: you can navigate solely through cli, but that is pretty painful... cd'ing to directories and ls -o to list files19:39
ign0ramuseagles0513875: i think so19:39
eagles0513875ign0ramus: are there currently any known bugs out on launchpad that u know of19:40
ign0ramuseagles0513875: let me check... in the meantime, try both dolphin and konqueror if you haven't already19:40
eagles0513875ign0ramus: im on kde 3.5.1019:40
ign0ramushttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/223534 is the closest i can find - happened right after an upgrade19:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 223534 in udev "/dev/dvd and /dev/cdrom symlink removed in Hardy" [Undecided,Won't fix]19:41
ign0ramusoh wait...19:42
ign0ramushttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/14156419:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 141564 in hal "Konqueror/KDE: "media:/" displays UUIDs instead of foldernames" [Undecided,New]19:42
ign0ramuseagles0513875: does it show the actual icons, or just list the UUIDs?19:42
Farghign0ramus ... for some reason its not enough19:42
ign0ramusFargh: that's strange... did you restart x?19:43
eagles0513875ign0ramus: for hdd shows uuid and when there the icons r present19:43
Farghyep19:43
ign0ramuseagles0513875: did it used to display the icons?19:43
FarghI edit a file with gedit19:43
FarghYou do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again.19:43
eagles0513875this is the first time i have gone to try and open the cd drive and hard drive prior to this been using command line to navigate19:44
DarkriftXanyone know what tools i would need to upload a file to a php upload script via command line?19:44
Farghi'll add the used to the sudo group and see19:45
DragnslcrDarkriftX- anything that can do HTTP POST requests. Maybe wget19:46
DarkriftXok, ill check it19:47
Farghsame shit19:47
jussi01!ohmy | Fargh19:47
ubottuFargh: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.19:47
Fargh:)19:47
DragnslcrDarkriftX- yup, wget can do it. See the --post-data and --post-file options19:49
ign0ramusFargh: what are you trying to do now?19:49
Fargh# Uncomment to allow members of group sudo to not need a password19:50
Fargh%sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL19:50
Farghand I added user to group sudo19:50
ign0ramusFargh: you don't have to do it that way19:50
Farghstill doesnt work for me19:50
ign0ramusFargh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo19:50
Farghok .. lemme check19:50
ign0ramusFargh: again - DANGEROUS - "<your user name here> ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL" goes at the *end* of sudoers file.  Sudoers works such that if lines contradict, sudoers follows the last command19:51
Farghits still in there mate19:52
ign0ramusFargh: open up /etc/ in Konqueror to make sure that you only have one sudoers file19:52
ign0ramusFargh: and then please pastebin your sudoers file19:53
Farghno visudo in /etc19:54
Farghstupid me19:54
Farghone sec19:54
ign0ramusFargh: visudo is the tool to edit sudoers19:55
ign0ramusFargh: there will be no visudo in /etc19:55
Farghim pasting to pastebin19:55
chrisrhi20:10
chrisri recompiled the kernel using the ubuntu howto and the ubuntu sources. however, i cannot get the firmware for my intel iwl4965 to load with the new kernel, though the firmware is in /lib/firmware/kernel20:11
chrisrdoes anybody know why the standard kernel loads firmware just fine?20:11
ign0ramuschrisr: i don't know, and i've had the same exact issue20:12
chrisryou solved it?20:12
chrisris there a kernel switch activating firmware loading?20:12
ign0ramuschrisr: no, i gave up, and used my default generic kernel :/20:13
chrisrign0ramus: thx for answering anyway20:14
ign0ramuschrisr: i've even had issues loading the iwl4965 firmware on my current (working) kernel... the entire OS would freeze, and a hard reset was the only way to get out of it20:15
ign0ramuschrisr: i just wanted the latest firmware (even though mine works fine) to get the damn wifi led light working again!20:16
chrisrign0ramus: could you resolve this?20:16
ign0ramuschrisr: nope :(20:16
ign0ramuschrisr: to be fair, i said 'screw it' after about half an hour.  My wireless still works fine, i just wanted the led light to work20:16
chrisrign0ramus: well, i wanna get a core 2 kernel20:18
ign0ramuschrisr: multi-threaded?20:18
chrisrign0ramus: if you mean smp support, yes20:18
_2i tried to use rsync again for the first time,  and i still can't get anything out of it...    i'll try it again for the first time later on i guess.20:18
ign0ramuschrisr: there is an app, KernelCheck, that claims to do most of the dirty work for you, but I haven't had much luck with that one, either20:19
ign0ramus_2: you used rsync again for the first time? :P20:19
chrisrign0ramus: i'll check it out20:19
_2ign0ramus no.  i tried to ues it again, for the first time.20:19
_2ign0ramus meaning i still haven't actually used it yet20:20
ign0ramuschrisr: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=19975520:20
ign0ramus_2: have you followed any tutorials?20:20
Hamrais anybody here having problems with repos? is sudo apt-get update working? i'm getting a lot 504 timeouts, and from 6 different mirrors i tried!20:21
chrisrign0ramus: cheers20:22
ign0ramuschrisr: to you as well20:22
_2ign0ramus no not really.   i did something like# rsync -av pool 192.168.0.4     and it blurted out something about rmdir couldn't remove pool because it wasn't empty.20:22
ign0ramusHamra: it's just you... try using a different server20:22
ign0ramus_2: http://www.linuxawy.org/node/12 is a good start20:22
ign0ramusHamra: oh, i didn't read that you've tried other servers...20:23
ign0ramusHamra: im using us.archive.ubuntu for the basic repos, and they're updating just fine...20:23
_2ign0ramus i'll look at that page   but be advised i'm not going to waste much time on it right now.20:24
ign0ramus_2: bookmark it for later!20:24
Hamrathnx, i'll try that20:24
_2ign0ramus not seeing anything there that i don't already have in the man page tho20:27
ign0ramus_2: you'll figure it out, i have confidence.20:28
_2ign0ramus anyway right now i'm letting scp overwrite the whole thing,  so when it's done i'm out   ;/20:28
_2scp would be fine if it just had a switch to not overwrite existing files....20:29
eagles0513875ign0ramus: u know what im thinking the problem with hal might be it might be the kernel version im on 2.6.24-1620:31
ign0ramuseagles0513875: what do you mean? i think HAL works fine on that kernel20:31
eagles0513875ign0ramus: im having that cd drive and hdd issue20:32
ign0ramuseagles0513875: no, i know, but why do you think your kernel is problematic?20:32
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ign0ramuseagles0513875: its a relatively newer kernel that tons of people are using20:32
eagles0513875thought it was 2.6.24-2120:32
ign0ramuseagles0513875: thought what was 2.6.24-21?  you thought that was the kernel you were on?20:33
_2i'm on -5320:33
eagles0513875no the newer kernel was 2.6.24-2120:33
eagles0513875tbh this is the first time i have encountered this problem on hardy20:34
eagles0513875i have used this on my older laptop and this has never happened to me20:34
ign0ramuseagles0513875: well, there's much newer kernels than that, even20:34
ign0ramus_2: did you get that from a repo?20:34
_2ign0ramus yeah   but i didn't specify the full version :)20:34
eagles0513875ya20:34
_22.6.15-52-68620:35
eagles0513875ign0ramus: ya i am getting mine from repo20:35
_2also typo'd it   heh20:35
ign0ramus_2: what repo has -52?20:35
eagles0513875_2: was bout to say20:35
_2look closely at the full version20:35
_2ign0ramus short answer dapper security20:36
ign0ramus_2: you're running dapper, or just using the repo?20:36
kevin_how can I tell what version of kde  I am running,  I think  it is 4.5.9?20:37
_2running20:37
ign0ramuskevin_: i can tell you you're not running 4.5.920:37
_2kevin_ kwin --version20:37
ign0ramusprobably 3.5.920:37
kevin_tks20:37
yan3.5.920:37
_2ign0ramus i think he typo'd that first one20:37
yanthink too20:37
kevin_3.5.9 (of course!!! sorry)20:37
yanhi everyone20:38
ign0ramus_2:  do you know the command for qt version?20:38
_2ign0ramus actually no  but i'll look.20:38
ign0ramus_2: actually, it's listed in kwin --version!!20:38
kevin_kwin --version returns 3.5.10 thanks for the help20:39
ign0ramus_2: no, wait, i don't think that's right20:39
ign0ramus_2: kwin --version only tells you what qt your kde is built with, right?20:39
_2ign0ramus /usr/share/qt*/bin/uic --version   might work20:40
jussi01ign0ramus: just go to konqi, look in help -about20:41
ign0ramus_2: syntax error20:42
Hamrahi again, are you looking for the version of QT installed? or that used by KDE?20:42
ign0ramusjussi01: konqui?20:42
jussi01ign0ramus: konqueror20:42
Hamrathere's a difference, you see20:42
_2ign0ramus have qmake there ?   --version it20:42
ign0ramusjussi01: i think it only lists the kde version20:42
jussi01but yeah, kwin --version give bot qt version on kde version here20:42
ign0ramus_2: qmake --version works20:42
ign0ramusHamra: yeah, i have some old version of qt that built kde, but have qt 4.4 installed20:43
ign0ramusqt version is important anymore since a lot of builds require qmake or cmake20:43
icelabhi people, i'm looking for a program that see the free and used spade on hard disk20:44
ign0ramusit seems people aren't compiling with ./configure as much anymore20:44
icelabon kde 3.520:44
_2ign0ramus so to answer your question,  yes i know how to find the qt version from cli now  :)))20:44
ign0ramusicelab: you can just check in in /media:20:44
ign0ramus_2: we both learned something today :P20:44
ign0ramus*media:/20:45
ign0ramusicelab: just hover over a partition, and it will give you total size, used space and free space20:45
_2ign0ramus --version works on lots of things.     hehhe here is an interesting one for you,  run this.    /lib/libc.so.6 --version    <<< one wouldn't expect that to work.20:46
ign0ramus_2: wow, not only does it work, it gives a fair amount of other info too!20:47
ign0ramus_2: wth made you think to try that one?20:47
_2ign0ramus i do things that most never dream of,  and what is called "normal" use of a pc is quite forign to me.20:49
icelabign0ramus yes i see, bat i 'l whish somethings like in ubuntu, now i don't remember the name of utility20:49
ign0ramusicelab: there's a cool superkaramba theme that shows hardware monitoring, kde and qt versions, ram usage, cpu usage, and partition space, - if you're interested20:50
_2but i am wondering why  /lib/klibc-t2jM36h7OcxUNTDzncfER2p7kd4.so  is marked executable, that doesn't make sense to me.20:50
ign0ramus_2: i don't even know what that is20:51
FicaBlok38with whose convertor can i  convert from wma to mp320:52
_2ign0ramus http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/276720:52
ign0ramusicelab: here's a screen of what i have for monitoring20:53
ign0ramusicelab: http://i34.tinypic.com/x1hgzb.jpg20:53
eagles0513875ign0ramus: lol using the 21 kernel made things worse x wouldnt work20:53
Hamrawhy mp3? use ogg, it works better in our world20:53
ign0ramus_2: 'definitely a work in progress' :P20:53
FicaBlok38Hamra: i realy need mp320:54
ign0ramusHamra: possibly because there are still tons of bassackwards 'mp3' players that don't play .ogg20:54
ign0ramusHamra: i agree .ogg > pretty much everthing, though20:54
icelabi.m googoling and i'm reading somrthing on wikypedia20:54
_2ign0ramus if you ever want to use that "o" command i just used there in the pastebin      here's the script.   pasting file bin/o20:55
_2http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/276820:55
ign0ramusFicaBlok38: i'm pretty sure mencoder can do that20:55
FicaBlok38tnx20:55
ign0ramus_2: what does it mean, 'where a file came from'...? I assume 'o' is origin, right?20:56
icelabseems good, but too much information it need many ram20:56
_2ign0ramus correct   the origen of the file    as in how it appeared on your computer,  not as in who wrote it, although that's often supplied too20:57
ign0ramusicelab: superkaramba doesn't use that much memory at all.  if you're referring to my high ram usage as reported by Superkaramba, that's because Linux by default will use most of your ram20:58
ign0ramusicelab: Unused RAM is wasted RAM.20:58
_2ign0ramus only works on files supplied from a .deb package though  not locally created ones.20:58
ign0ramus_2: that's pretty good - did you write that?20:58
_2yeah20:59
ign0ramusnice work :-)20:59
_2although someone else wrote a pastebinit.py about the time i wrote  pastebin.sh  i still use the .sh version most of the time    pasting file /usr/local/bin/pastebin21:00
_2http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/276921:00
FicaBlok38ign0ramus: lol, i cant run mencoder...21:00
FicaBlok38:)21:00
ign0ramusFicaBlok38: why not?21:00
FicaBlok38i dont know21:00
ign0ramusFicaBlok38: do you have it installed?21:01
FicaBlok38yeah21:01
FicaBlok38i downloadet it from repo21:01
FicaBlok38*downloaded21:01
icelabjust one last thing.. it is better install the kdeutils or just supercamba. i'm work whit a pentium 933 and 256 mbyte of ram21:01
FicaBlok38give mi other21:01
ign0ramusFicaBlok38: what's the output of "mencoder --help" ?21:01
FicaBlok38me21:02
FicaBlok38MEncoder 2:1.0~rc2-0ubuntu13 (C) 2000-2007 MPlayer Team21:02
FicaBlok38CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz (Family: 15, Model: 4, Stepping: 9)21:02
FicaBlok38CPUflags: Type: 15 MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 121:02
FicaBlok38Compiled with runtime CPU detection.21:02
FicaBlok38--help is not an MEncoder option21:02
_2FicaBlok38   mencoder --version      # it should run and exit with a "Exiting... (error parsing cmdline)"   but also give the version info21:02
_2never mind.21:02
ign0ramusFicaBlok38: so you have it, now you just have to use the correct syntax to make it work...21:02
FicaBlok38Exiting... (error parsing command line)21:03
ign0ramusFicaBlok38: it will do that if you don't supply it with a proper command21:04
_2FicaBlok38 correct.   that means you just ran it,     it didn't actually do anything, but you did run it.   now a quick howto on the options and syntax and you are good to go21:04
ign0ramusFicaBlok38: its not a GUI program - its done from terminal21:04
FicaBlok38au21:04
ign0ramusi think he's waiting for the window to pop up :P21:04
FicaBlok38do you know other program21:04
FicaBlok38who has21:04
FicaBlok38GUI?21:04
_2FicaBlok38 ;/21:05
icelabign0ramus: i try to install, i see an utility kdf do you know?21:05
afeijo!shortcut21:06
ubottukeyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts21:06
icelabkdf21:06
ign0ramusFicaBlok38: http://fosswire.com/2008/09/05/gnac-a-simple-program-to-convert-audio-files/21:06
* _2 thinks very seriously about being devious and saying something like "for q in *.mp3 ;do :>$q ;done" ..... but realises that he might actually try it....21:06
_2z21:07
ign0ramus_2: http://pastebin.com/m6bc360e021:07
ign0ramusicelab: i don't understand your question21:07
ign0ramusicelab: what did you try to install?21:07
FicaBlok38ign0ramus: tnx21:08
ign0ramusFicaBlok38: np21:08
icelabi'm installing superkaramba, but i read that it is part of kdeutils,21:08
afeijodoes kcontrol affect kde4 too?21:08
icelaband i see that there is a utility that do the same things his name is kdf21:09
ign0ramusicelab: ok, so then install kdf instead.  i don't understand your problem.21:10
phdstudenttest,   sorry21:10
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icelabno problem i only ask if you know that utility in order yo make the right chose21:11
ign0ramusicelab: where did you find out about kdf?21:11
ign0ramusicelab: kdf is fine - it does show disk usage, but so does konqueror.  kdf offers nothing different, and you'd just be installing an extra (redundant) app21:12
ign0ramusicelab: i just suggested the superkaramba theme because it shows a lot of information in addition to disk usage21:12
ign0ramusicelab: also, if you want a good program that shows disk usage that actually can *do* something, install gparted21:13
_2ign0ramus zenity is gtk ?21:14
_2ign0ramus  i normally don't write gui scripts.   but that looks ok.   did you write it ?21:14
icelabok many thanks21:14
ign0ramus_2: no, i just happened across it21:14
ign0ramus_2: i write 4-line bash scripts21:14
ign0ramusi'm pretty terrible21:15
ign0ramusif anything, i can write a startup script, but not much more than that :(21:15
ign0ramusand zenity is gtk21:15
_2ign0ramus k.   well it's a gnome'ish script and has no referance to any license.   as well as a few other things that would prevent me from reccomending it in here,  but looks ok for personal use.21:16
ign0ramus_2: well, when you're dealing with wma and mp3, there's a lot that couldn't be 'supported'21:16
_2ign0ramus yep.21:16
ign0ramus_2: i'm still trying to find a good source for FLAC files (legal of course)21:17
_2ah my file transfer is done.   i'm out for some sleep.21:17
_2ign0ramus heh.  good luck.21:18
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icelabign0ramus: superkaramba it is very kool but it is not that i'm looking for21:28
ign0ramusicelab: ok dude21:28
lod__hi all21:33
lod__i just upgraded my hardy to intrepid, but cant start compiz for some reason. my card is ati 1250, dkms compiles fglrx driver, but can't run compiz21:34
lod__any help please21:34
MrKennielod__: try #ubuntu+121:36
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eagles0513875can anyone help me with my hal issue22:08
eagles0513875and is anyone alive in here22:08
bonbonthejoni'm here, but i don't know much about HAL22:09
eagles0513875anyone in here know a decent amount bout hal22:11
bonbonthejonwhats your question22:12
cr3can someone please let me know if the command lsb_release -a returns some reference to kubuntu in the output?22:13
bonbonthejoncr3: no it does not22:14
cr3bonbonthejon: thanks! that's what I thought and I appreciate the confirmation22:14
bonbonthejoncr3: mine said "Description:    Ubuntu 8.04.1"22:14
eagles0513875im having issues accessing my hd from storage media gui and it is saying when i double click or try to mount or even unmount or eject it says feature is available with hal which i have installed22:14
cr3bonbonthejon: that makes perfect sense22:14
bonbonthejoncr3: it would be hard to determine if its Kubuntu, since you could have any of the *ubuntu-desktop packages installed22:16
eagles0513875ubuntu is basically for all of em22:16
DarkriftXanyone here played with android yet?22:17
eagles0513875im having issues accessing my hd from storage media gui and it is saying when i double click or try to mount or even unmount or eject it says feature is available with hal which i have installed anyone have any ideas22:19
MrKennieeagles0513875: does typing  hal-device in a terminal work?22:21
eagles0513875MrKennie: ya i get output22:22
andriijashow do i disable the login sound in kde?22:22
andriijas(intrepid ibex bleeding edge version)22:22
MrKennieeagles0513875: OK, HAL is obviously working. Which KDE are you using?22:22
cr3bonbonthejon: exactly, the "kubuntu" name is only valid on a per image basis depending on the packages available therein22:22
eagles0513875MrKennie: 3.5.1022:23
MrKennieandriijas:  #ubuntu+1 for intrepid related support.22:23
andriijasgotta be kidding me22:23
MrKennieI'm not laughing22:25
eagles0513875MrKennie: any ideas as to my issue22:29
MrKennieeagles0513875: sorry, I got sidetracked, try /usr/lib/hal/hald-generate-fdi-cache22:29
eagles0513875MrKennie: what am i supposed to get back22:30
MrKennienothing if it run OK22:31
eagles0513875MrKennie: it returned nothing22:31
MrKennieeagles0513875: try inserting a CD or something22:31
eagles0513875i can do that but when i head to storage media on desktop i cannot mount it or anything of the sort22:32
eagles0513875i have to use command line to do any of that22:32
MrKenniehave you just tried that after running that program?22:32
cosmofieldHi all. Is it possible to manipulate images with shell commands in (k)ubuntu?22:32
eagles0513875what program the /usr one22:32
MrKennieyea, since running that22:33
bonbonthejoncosmofield: yes, with imagemagick22:33
eagles0513875MrKennie: let me try it and ill let u know22:34
cosmofieldbonbonthejon: thanks :)22:34
MrKennieok22:34
eagles0513875MrKennie: still wont work it says feature available with hal22:34
eagles0513875MrKennie: how do i force a disk check to be run on next reboot22:35
KomiaPoikahi22:35
KomiaPoikain kubuntu 8.04 with kde4 how do i prevent hardware screensaver from blanking off the screen?22:35
MrKennieeagles0513875: I'm not sure you can , but I do not know for sure.22:36
MrKennieeagles0513875: has this always been an issue or has it happened recently?22:36
eagles0513875MrKennie: this is a brand new machine i just built and put it on have never had this issue on my laptops22:36
eagles0513875MrKennie: how can i force a diskcheck on next reboot22:38
MrKennieeagles0513875: read up22:38
MrKennieI do not know, I just let it run when it wants to.22:38
eagles0513875MrKennie: sry bout that22:39
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MrKennieeagles0513875: regarding your hal thing. in a terminal can you type ps aux | grep hald and look for /usr/sbin/hald22:41
eagles0513875MrKennie: i c it there22:42
mefisto__eagles0513875: to force a disk check on next boot: sudo touch /forcefsck22:42
eagles0513875ty22:42
mefisto__sounds a little obscene22:42
MrKennieeagles0513875: in konqueror do you see anything using media://22:43
eagles0513875MrKennie: it says malformed url22:43
MrKennieeagles0513875: ok, that's not right.22:44
MrKennieeagles0513875: try system:/media22:45
mefisto__it's media:/ (just one slash)22:45
eagles0513875MrKennie: that worked but i get same issue says feature available with hal22:46
eagles0513875im on kernel 2.6.24-16 not sure if that would mean anything22:46
MrKenniemedia should work though, mefisto__ is right22:46
MrKennieeagles0513875: -20 should be available22:47
eagles051387521 is available22:47
eagles0513875MrKennie: should i try 2122:48
cuzntHollywood legend Paul Newman dies, aged 8322:48
eagles0513875!ot | cuznt22:48
ubottucuznt: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!22:48
MrKennieeagles0513875: worth a try22:48
eagles0513875MrKennie: alright will do it now and get back to ya22:48
MrKennieeagles0513875: always worth updating to the latest kernel anyway :)22:49
eagles0513875MrKennie: its funny though cuz before x wouldnt work with 21 but ill try again22:49
MrKennieeagles0513875: ah right22:49
eagles0513875and im attributing that to me having a fairly new gpu an 8800gt22:49
eeebb22:51
MrKennieeagles0513875: googling it seems many things can cause this22:51
eagles0513875ill try kernel again22:51
MrKennieeagles0513875: failing -21 you could try -20 or -19. -19 has always been good to me.22:52
eagles0513875MrKennie: goign to reboot into new kernel i think what happened before with x was that i didnt install kernel correctly22:54
MrKennieeagles0513875: OK, g'luck :)22:54
eagles0513875MrKennie: thanks22:55
eagles0513875ill keep u posted22:55
|Tann|Hello23:04
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bonbonthejonhi Tann23:06
TannI was wondering if anyone could help me set up a dual monitor configuration between an onboard vga port and a nvidia card23:06
eagles0513875MrKennie: 21 has a bug goign to try 20 19 18 17 in the morning right now im beat23:08
MrKennieeagles0513875: ok23:09
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ActionParsniphey all23:39
tortoalguma mulher aqui?23:39
ActionParsnipcan someone do me a favour and give me the output of file /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.323:40
ActionParsnipi wanna know if its 32bit23:40
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MrKennieActionParsnip: on a 32bit machine?23:41
ActionParsnipsomeone, its a small request23:41
ActionParsnipMrKennie: im running 64bit and ive ballsed up the file i think23:41
Deniseyes23:42
Deniseit is installed23:42
MrKennie /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3.2.0: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), stripped23:42
ActionParsnipdamn23:42
MrKenniethat's on my amd6423:42
ActionParsnipMrKennie: thanks23:42
ActionParsnipMrKennie: ive broken it23:42
MrKennieah, oops :S23:43
ActionParsnipyeah, ive been playing dark lore and it moaned about the file23:44
ActionParsnipthere was one in the folder so i copied it to all 3 lib files23:44
ActionParsnipfolders sorry23:44
ActionParsnipbut it turns out the lib is a 32bit one23:44
gregois there separate chanell for intrepid?23:44
MrKennie#ubuntu+123:45
gregothx23:45
MrKennieActionParsnip: the file you requested is a symlink to the file in my output btw23:45
ActionParsnipMrKennie: /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3.2.0: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), stripped23:47
ActionParsnipMrKennie: do you get that?23:47
mariohi hi23:48
mariocomo estan23:48
mario>23:50
MrKennieActionParsnip: no23:50
MrKennieActionParsnip: in your case that should be in /usr/lib32 no?23:51
mariocje23:51
mariose cuelga linux23:51
mariodigo kubuntu23:52
mario:S23:52
stdin!ar | mario23:52
ubottumario: La comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe23:52
mariogracias23:52
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ZbrojnikJest ktos z PL co moglby pomoc ?23:56
stdin!pl23:56
ubottuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl23:56
mefisto__ActionParsnip: can't you just reinstall it?23:57
ActionParsnipmefisto__: its a shared lib and not part of frets on fire23:57
ActionParsnipive tried reinstalling libvorbis23:57
mefisto__libvorbisfile3 ? that's what I find (on a 32bit system)23:59
ActionParsnipmefisto__: yeah ive tried that23:59
DarkriftXanyone know of ktorrent has any file that stores download %'s or anything that could be cat'd to tell download progress?23:59

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