[00:15] hi i had console-kit crashing and found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/consolekit/+bug/271800 . they want a better trace so I installed libglib-dbg and other debug packages. [00:15] Launchpad bug 271800 in consolekit "console-kit-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in g_str_hash()" [Undecided,Incomplete] [00:16] now root@ubuntu810:/var/crash# gdb /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon _usr_sbin_console-kit-daemon.0.crash [00:16] ... [00:16] "/var/crash/_usr_sbin_console-kit-daemon.0.crash" is not a core dump: File format not recognized [00:16] where is the core file stored at? [00:27] hello, i updated to intrepid today and now my mouse does not work at all on it, i am currently chrooted into the install from hardy and can not figure out what the kernel version is [00:28] can anyone help me with either of these issues? [00:28] uname -a for the running system. the one that does not run depends on what you choose to boot when grub asks you ;-) 2.26.27-4 is the current intrepid kernel [00:28] thanks [00:32] my wifi pcmia comes up at eth1, not wlan1 === ZehRique_ is now known as ZehRique [00:50] is there already an alternate installer for ibex ? [00:50] Yes? [00:51] The alternate cds are built at the same time as the desktop cds. [00:51] where to dld ? [00:52] cdimage.ubuntu.com, as always. [00:52] Of course, Intrepid isn't actually released; the most recent milestone was alpha 6 === noether is now known as bascule [00:53] where to get ? only found the regular at various places [00:56] DasEi1: It's easy, go to http://www.google.com , and enter what your looking for. [00:56] Then hit enter, then your there! [00:56] trying again... [00:59] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/alpha-6/ , maybe google only listens to EvilDaemon [01:01] 750 kb/s, 15 min nice, stopping ot then, thx [01:02] * DBO pokes RAOF [01:02] Any joy on the X4500? [01:02] none [01:02] its the drm module for sure [01:02] but the recent GEM work seems to make building a new one impossible [01:03] Right. Unless you patch the kernel, which seems an _awful_ lot of effort. [01:03] http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&hs=wl2&q=alternate+install+ubuntu+ibex+6&btnG=Search [01:03] RAOF, where can I find said patches [01:03] That wasn't that hard, DasEi1 [01:03] I am not opposed to patching the kernel, ubuntu has more or less let me down here [01:03] Have you filed a bug, though? It's possible that there's something backportable from the current GEM infested git. [01:04] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/274278 [01:04] Launchpad bug 274278 in linux "DRM Breaks Resume from Suspend" [Undecided,New] [01:05] DBO: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=890843&highlight=gem+intel may help. [01:06] RAOF, trying now [01:08] hi guys, I've just run displayconfig-gtk to try and get the nvidia driver running again after an upgrade, when I logout and it restarts X, it comes up in the recovery mode saying "(EE) Problem parsing the config file" =/ === buono is now known as lenios [01:09] hmm, it's lost the keyboard definition [01:12] JediMaster: I had the same problem, I downgraded from nvidia-glx-177 ro nvidia-glx-173 and that fixed it. [01:13] ta, will try that [01:14] my system got unusable :S half of the apps won't start [01:15] for example, when I open pidgin it complains I don't have ssl support [01:15] what's missing there? [01:15] sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop [01:15] does that help fix anything? [01:19] nope, itnope, it'll wanna install brasero and some other apps I deleted but that's not the problem afaik [01:19] all started with an upgrade [01:19] and the problem is that xulrunner won't install [01:20] it complains about some library file that failed loading cause it wasn't found [01:20] any thought on how to repair it? [01:20] maybe the update removed something important? i use aptitude safe-upgrade for upgrading [01:21] =/ [01:22] Turl: you kinda need to install ubuntu-desktop... [01:22] it'll just install brasero evolution and some other soft I don't/can't use [01:23] Turl: its also the package that depends on everything that makes your system work... [01:23] Turl: you could try ubuntu-standard [01:23] Turl: anyway, gl [01:23] why do kernel compiles have to take 4 years and a day [01:32] how do you enable the nvidia driver? I've got nvidia-glx-177 install, and displayconfig-gtk produces invalid xorg.conf files [01:33] and the "hardware drives" program says that there's no propriatory drivers, even though the "nvidia" kernel module is loaded and displays in lsmod [01:34] JediMaster: displayconfig is gone [01:34] I still got it installed heh [01:34] what's the "new" way of doing it then? [01:40] maybe delete xorg.conf? (ie, rename it) [01:41] nvidia-xconfig seems to have almost sorted it [01:43] yay, all working, even got my 37" tv's resolution right [01:48] w0000 stage 2, building modules! [01:59] sorry that this isn't an intrepid problem; but is 8.04.1 unstable? I'm having a problem with gedit [02:00] also, when is the stable intrepid coming out? [02:01] what is it called when you share your bridge a network contention from on source to another [02:01] asho79: 8.04 is stable [02:01] i have not ran into anything major [02:01] nblracer; so is 8.04.1 unstable? [02:02] asho79: that should be stable too. [02:03] Hobbsee: thanks [02:03] any ideas why my quotation marks aren't recognised for programming? [02:04] but they are good when I change my layout to UK [02:04] although, in UK I can't find backslash [02:06] asho79 October 30th is release schedual for 8.1 [02:09] nbiracer: yep, thanks. I just found that too. I thought it was sooner. Is there major problems with intrepid at the moment? I'm thinking of trying out the unstable version for now [02:10] well if your having a problem with 8.04 i dought 8.1 will fix it [02:12] nbiracer: I thinking if I did a fresh install it might work, or I might try 8.04 fresh install, not 8.04.1 [02:13] asho79: no idea. i haven't run hardy, except for about half an hour, in *months* [02:21] is 8.1 alpha 6 for x86? [02:22] asho79: I have 8.10 ruynning on x86. [02:23] bearing in mind that it is a known issue upstream, should I still add a bug report for "GPE storm detected" message? [02:23] having said that, I've not checked if there's any already. [02:25] Does anyone know if Network Manager and/or WICD front-end to wpa_supplicant for WPA support? The reason I ask is because my Atheros WiFi switch from using MadWifi to the ath5k driver. I was able to make my WiFi work by switching wap_supplicant to use the wext driver instead of madwifi (-Dwext vs. -Dmadwifi). So anyway, I was curious if the WiFI GUI apps front-ended this. Thanks. [02:38] bug reported already, nm. [03:06] is there anyway to request status on a bug? [03:07] here is the bug :( https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-gnome2/+bug/273015 [03:07] Launchpad bug 273015 in meta-gnome2 "cannot install gnome package" [Low,Confirmed] [03:18] hm [03:18] bug #249505 [03:18] Launchpad bug 249505 in meta-gnome2 "Please merge meta-gnome 2.22.2~3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/249505 [03:20] ugh, I keep getting dropouts in PulseAudio, now that I'm back on my non-backup computer. [03:21] drop. drop. drop. drop. drop. drop. drop. drop. drop. drop. [04:18] is there a getting started/changelog for ibex ? [04:20] DasEi1: no, as it has not been released. [04:21] ok,mneptok [04:36] ping ping ping RAOF my lovely austrailian friend [04:36] boa, just installed ibex an running update&-grade >>more then 800mb, oo [04:44] ua, 50kb/s server muharr [05:05] mm, ufw enabled by default, nice [05:08] suspend to ram and disk are not working .. anyone having same problem or its only me [05:20] !info linux [05:20] linux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.27.4.4 (intrepid), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB [05:30] hi i need some help if anyone might be able to assist [05:32] lofde_ | !anyone [05:32] !anyone | lofde_ [05:32] lofde_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [05:41] well [05:41] the upgrade to 8.10 didnt go so well [05:41] and now i cannot install gnome [05:41] gnome: Depends: system-config-printer (>= 1.0.0) which is a virtual package. [05:41] ARGH! [05:41] This audio skipping is supremely irritating. [05:41] i did have gnome before... but somehow it got removed and yea.. [05:42] i am using kde right now, but for some reason the windows are missing the minimize, resize, close heh.. enlightenment has those but, its not my windows manager of choice.. [05:43] i feel like if i could install gnome, if i could force apt-get to ignore the dep. for system-config printer then i could probably have everything working a lot better [05:45] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-gnome2/+bug/273015 [05:45] Launchpad bug 273015 in meta-gnome2 "cannot install gnome & gnome-office packages" [High,In progress] [05:45] WOO HOO [05:45] thats awesome it changed from low, confirmed to high :D [05:45] maybe ill be in luck ! here soon :) [06:27] hi all [06:27] this has been an interesting day [06:28] raining day [06:28] not rainy here.. all day 70 deg, sunny [06:28] but i wish i could say this upgrade to 8.10 was as sunny [06:29] will 8.10 have latest openobex compiled in it? [06:29] is there a way, that i can do some "upgrade" process to force ubuntu to download any packages that it didnt download and install from the upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 , like simple things got missed somehow like gnome and such any command i can type [06:31] Lofde:sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [06:31] Lofde_:sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [06:38] DasEi1, if i am already running 8.10 [06:38] ? [06:40] anyone having any issues getting music playback on banshee and/or amarok ? doesn't seem to play for me [06:40] avis issue here playing music through audacious [06:40] but other audio works out of vlc [06:40] avis: you're probably hitting the S32_LE bug that we fixed [06:40] how is it fixed crimsun ? [06:41] Lofde_:sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ,,its same [06:41] avis: we reverted upstream's patch for said bug. Which $arch are you running? [06:41] oddly if i hoover over an audio file with totem, it'll play, if i try and launch totem, wont play [06:41] i am using 32 bit i have the proposed repo added so hopefully i'll get it soon then [06:41] avis: install http://www.themuso.id.au/ubuntu/alsa-plugins/libasound2-plugins_1.0.17-0ubuntu4~test1_i386.deb [06:41] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-gnome2/+bug/273015/+login anyone know the status of this bug ? [06:42] ooh. thank you [06:42] Launchpad bug 273015 in meta-gnome2 "cannot install gnome & gnome-office packages" [High,Confirmed] [06:42] avis: afterward, nuke ~/.pulse* and log out of GNOME and back in [06:42] ok [06:43] i wish i could find Pedro Fragoso he would be much help :) [06:45] nope that didn't do it. i realize its to be expected though. thank you for trying crimsun [06:47] avis: what fails? [06:47] i'm not entirely sure. just no playback in banshee or amarok [06:48] please open System> Preferences> Sound and tell me what settings are chosen in the Devices tab [06:48] just tried the latest daily on my machine with a P45 chipset, disk boots but when it tries to load the desktop nothing [06:49] crimsun, autodetect of all of them, sound capture using alsa, default mixer is alsa pco cmedia pci with master selected in the white field below mixer [06:49] default mixer is alsa pcm [06:50] avis: in Sound Events/Sound playback, what is the result of clicking Test? [06:50] no sound. its weird, i'm going to check my cables. its too odd [06:51] crimsun, oddly my cables are fine. [06:51] avis: okay, and do you have any custom asoundrc(s)? [06:51] check for the existence of /etc/asound.conf and/or ~/.asoundrc* [06:51] i get sound when i try totem when i hoover over an audiofile. totem however will crash trying to launch one [06:51] no custom asoundrc's [06:53] avis: ok, in a Terminal, please try this command: speaker-test -c2 [06:54] crimsun, i'm oddly not hearing sound using that test. [06:55] avis: what did speaker-test say was the Playback device? [06:55] e.g., on mine: Playback device is default [06:56] same as on lime, stream is 48000hz, s16_le it says, 2 channels [06:56] same as mine [06:58] avis: ok, let's check the mixer. Please pastebin the output from: amixer -c0 [07:00] here you go crimsun http://www.pastebin.ca/1212104 [07:01] (sec) [07:05] avis: interesting that you have 'IEC958 Output' unmuted [07:06] avis: let's try a different approach. Please try: asoundconf set-pulseaudio [07:06] avis: afterward, please retry the speaker-test [07:06] yes. i did that just to try something since it wasn't working i enabled that toggle to troubleshoot (i think i did that) still did not work [07:06] will try. thank you so much. trying [07:07] still no output from speaker test [07:08] please mute all the IEC958* elements [07:08] something different must have happened though. i dont get audio from mouse over audio file. i will unmute those [07:08] ...unmute? why? they're already unmuted. [07:09] well i deselected them. i thought that was what you meant [07:09] should 3d control switch be selected ? [07:13] i do not see a mute/umute switch for those. i only see select/deselect toggles. i have deselected them [07:13] oh you want me to mute them, ok. well, it wont let me. they aren't appearing [07:14] avis: is `paplay /usr/share/hwtest/data/audio_playback.wav' audible? [07:15] nope [07:15] i'm going to double check my audio cables. i checked once, i will make super sure this time. my guess is that they are ok [07:16] audio cables are ok [07:18] Oh yeah, I figured out something about my PulseAudio dropouts.... [07:18] they only happen on my Audigy2 card. [07:19] It might be the surround upmixing making it drop out. [07:19] avis: can you install pavucontrol and double-check that the volumes are not zeroed and set correctly? [07:19] yes have that installed but will check [07:20] crimsun, they are muted. for some reason they will not unmute. it shows 0.00db for both front left and right and i'm able to decrease that value, but the speaker has a red mute button [07:21] avis: can you take screenshots for the Playback and Output Devices tabs? [07:21] sure [07:22] DanaG: that's your USB one, correct? [07:25] latest firefox update doesn't let me use the arrows/reload buttons. is this a known issue? === pen_ is now known as pen [07:30] Reed_Solomon: Works for me. [07:34] sent the url to my screenshot in PM crimsun. keep in mind that you asked me to nuke ~/.pulse [07:37] hew, ok. odd then. [07:37] my bookmarks dont show up either [07:37] ill try backing it up to another directory then [07:37] Reed_Solomon: Have you only just updated firefox? If so, have you restarted it? [07:37] yah that works [07:38] nah i restarted the whole system [07:38] since i updated [07:38] still odd [07:41] oh well no harm no foul [07:44] grr, iwl3945 just randomly disabled the interrupt of the device. [07:45] That was way random. I had to unload and reload the module to get wifi back. [07:45] that's common for most Intel wifi firmware [07:45] it seems to be less common with 49xx [08:06] hi all, is gnome-power-manager broken for all in intrepid or just for me? [08:10] * DanaG reboots... [08:10] for new kernel. [08:11] * DanaG does not like Intel wifi. [08:13] DanaG: are you having problems with iwl3945 on 2.6.27-4? [08:14] Yeah, earlier the device just randomly decided to disable its interrupt, for no apparent reason. [08:14] Linux GLaDOS 2.6.27-3-generic #1 SMP Wed Sep 10 16:02:00 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux [08:15] * DanaG is still on -3 at the moment. [08:20] DanaG: in -3 my connection is slow, in -4 it often blocks [08:21] I am using qos_enable=true as a module argument ... but also in hardy network connection is incredibly slow and laggy [08:24] Eek my mouse stopped working =\ [08:27] It's not showing up on lsusb... Any idea what might cause that? [08:29] iwl3945 driver really does suck. [08:30] DanaG: yes but in feisty it worked decently [08:30] do you confirm this? [08:31] I don't remember it ever working particularly well. [08:31] ipw3945 worked better, in my opinion. [08:31] ... and even b43 works better, sometimes. [08:31] Argl. Not even my wired mouse is working. [08:32] what's b43? [08:33] ah ok [08:40] new deskbar finally works well, but... where is tracker integration? [08:51] Odd... firefox can't comprehend http://http://2001:4de0:aaac:0:2456::2 [08:51] er [08:51] http://2001:4de0:aaac:0:2456::2 [08:51] it's ipv6. [08:57] is it safe to dist-upgrade from 8.04 now? [08:59] Well I've got no working mouse at the moment, so I'm going to say no. [08:59] I'll amend that this is the first really bad bug I've had so far === Hew__ is now known as Hew [09:05] pen: My system is working just fine, so I say yes [09:07] Teisei, cool [09:07] Teisei, so it boots like normal? [09:07] Teisei, does it install the latest nvidia driver? [09:08] pen: I have Geforece 8800 GT on my desktop and it works fine too [09:08] I can play the games I want :) [09:08] Teisei, in ubuntu? [09:08] pen: Intrepid is still alpha. If you need Ubuntu to be stable, do not upgrade. [09:09] true [09:09] ok, maybe I will wait for a few more weeks [09:09] pen: If you are willing and able to put up with instability and wish to help with testing, then feel free to dist-upgrade :-) [09:09] Hew, no thanks, but I will install it on an external hdd [09:09] pen: The beta will be out Oct 2. Maybe that will be a better time to upgrade [09:10] Hew, k [09:10] hello where are the config file for displayconfig ? [09:10] are/is* [09:10] Oh yeah, also: watch out for breakage of Intel Gigabit Ethernet adapters. [09:10] Why is that not in the topic of this channel? [09:11] pen: Ubuntu 8.10 [09:12] DanaG, probably because no one here have Intel Gigabit Ethernet adapters? [09:12] Well, it's a pretty durn big issue -- the e1000e driver had to be disabled due to risk of permanent hardware damage. [09:14] Putting it in the channel would help let people know to expect the Intel NICs not to work until the driver is fixed. [09:14] * DanaG goes off to bed: [09:14] Sat Sep 27 01:14:54 PDT 2008 [09:15] Yeah... well past time. [09:46] any one know a solution or a workaround the throttling/scaling of cpu on AMD x64 [09:46] bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/262066 [09:46] Launchpad bug 262066 in linux "CPU throttled to 12% with kernel 2.6.27" [Undecided,New] [09:47] and its dupe: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/263412 [09:47] Launchpad bug 263412 in linux "kernel 2.6.27-2 from last update makes everything move very slowly (dup-of: 262066)" [High,Triaged] [10:13] So, will Intrepid have a crap colored theme ? [10:14] its not that bad as i thought it would from the screenshots [10:15] any way it is not the default [10:15] Dark Colored Themes NEVER work out. If Intrepid uses one, it will spell decline in users for Ubuntu. [10:16] On top of that, Dark colored themes are harder on the eyes. [10:16] genraly i agree with you [10:16] Most websites use white background so when you visit websites, it's like have a spot light sign directly in your eyes. [10:17] shine* [10:17] but im trying it now and they done pretty good [10:17] If dark theme is on there at final, theme is first package that gets removed. [10:18] kahrytan, I think its just the alpha1 that had a dark theme [10:18] Alpha6 has it too [10:18] it is not defaolt [10:18] kahrytan, and you know you can change colors right? [10:18] well duh [10:19] oops. One screenshot tour for alpha 6 had dark. Softpedia has normal human [10:21] http://blog.masslive.com/linkfarm/2008/09/new_ubuntu_theme_actually_look.html [10:21] kahrytan: actually, dark themes (eg light text on dark backgrounds) are considered by the vast majority of usability experts to be a lot easier on the eyes [10:22] I'd punch a load of research links in your general direction... if my mouse worked [10:22] Oli``» In what craphole did you hear that? [10:22] Oli``» It always hurts my eyes [10:23] I hate spotlights shinning in my eyes [10:24] kahrytan: I'm a webdev. We have to do a lot of usability... So that "craphole" would be the computer usability collective. [10:24] And in what craphole is that collective? [10:25] kahrytan: try following the Code of Conduct, please. [10:27] already am. not insulting anyone [10:27] kahrytan: it's to do with eye strain. You say that light-on-dark is like a spotlight? Well to people with more sensitive eyes, dark-on-light is like staring at some text placed in front of the sun. If it's really an issue for you perhaps improving your monitor might improve things [10:27] I'm sorry if you don't believe me, but it's really not my job to convince you that I'm right. [10:28] Oli``» and yet you don't provide links. [10:28] I've got no mouse. [10:28] You need to cite things to win [10:28] kahrytan: try being nice. [10:28] kahrytan: as do you. [10:29] kahrytan: providing links without a mouse is *hard*. have you tried it recently? [10:29] Hobbsee» I am. [10:29] kahrytan: then apparently you're failing. Please try harder. [10:29] You've managed to cite just as much as me. "Oh I don't like it" doesn't quite cut it as an in-depth usability study [10:29] Hobbsee» and you are being insulting to me. [10:29] Oh dear. [10:30] kahrytan: I remind you one final time: please obey the code of conduct, including being respectful, and you will have a long time in this channel. If you do not follow the CoC, you may be out of here quicker than you hoped. You know how this works. [10:30] Oli``» Use tab key to cycle though links. [10:30] Oli``» gotta go. I need to discuss a few things in -ops. [10:31] http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum116/48.htm looks interesting, too [10:31] Yeah I'm doing that - but to look for ways to fix my USB, not convince you one way or the other. It's out there, just a google away if you're genuinely interested in finding out more [10:31] Oli``: he's gone [10:33] No complaints here =) [10:33] Unless, of course, he holds the secrets to unlocking my mouse. [10:33] Time to see if a restart fixes things. Stranger things have happened. [10:34] Oh yeah, in syslog I'm getting a LOT of "EH complete" messages. I've no idea what they are... Any ideas? [10:35] none, sorry :) [10:35] Righto back in a tick [10:47] Unlimited mouse power! [10:49] \o/ [11:09] bankai mouse? [11:52] hail my young padawans [11:55] hi, there is any tool to render a new xorg.conf considering what one is running on a given moment? (xrandr choices, etc..) [11:59] btw, radeon + xrandr -s 1280x800 looks much better than fglrx use to :D [12:18] is there an orange theme for 8.10? [12:26] bug 263555 [12:26] Launchpad bug 263555 in linux "[intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/263555 [12:26] @@ [12:37] me again :) [12:37] nblracer, yelo [12:37] another minor bug that most likly hardware specific [12:38] the screen does not turn off when closed [12:39] i did some test, and found out that cat /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state does register it correctly [12:39] nblracer, did you try to fix it? [12:41] acpi_listen however does not see it [12:42] and the hal listen does not see the lid closed [12:42] edp: i dont know how i should go about it to fix it [12:43] anyone know how to get intrepid alpha 6 to not freez when it sees my HD4850 card [12:43] hide it? [12:43] Linux_Galore, you have to blacklist it [12:44] intrepid boots, I get the install menu, then select lets say the install, it then seems to load some things then the screen goes blank and stays there [12:44] i googled it a bit and found similar errors, but nothing quite the same [12:45] look in consol why it stops while it loades up [12:45] this is with a P45 mobo and a HD4850 card [12:45] Linux_Galore: alternate innstall? [12:45] regel: desk and alternate both freez [12:51] it always freezes about 10 seconds after I select install or try to run the live desktop [12:54] is there a way to hide the boot graphics so i can see at what point the install is failing ? [12:54] ctrl-alt-f2? [12:54] this is after the first selection menu right after the language question [12:56] let me try [12:56] bbl === marko-_-- is now known as marko-_- [13:12] yup... I can't get gdm honoring my de layout... but the session does [13:12] s/yup/yuck/ [13:28] i'm so bad with bash :( [13:28] i'm pretty good with bash, but i stink on xorg :-\ [13:30] I just did an upgrade and now one of my monitor's edid was not detected upon reboot. Video Card: GeForce 8800, driver: 177.76. Anyone else experience this issue? [13:31] plagerism: tons of people in the forum :) [13:31] It appears to only be my acer monitor, even if I switch them around (DFP-1 -> DFP-0) the same monitor is still undetected [13:31] mnemoc, I get very lost in the forum [13:31] plagerism: just reset your xorg.conf [13:32] I see this in the log though (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device DFP-1 [13:32] I will try resetting it [13:33] let xorg 7.4 use it's magic [13:33] brb [13:34] im trying to install alsa from source, but the old version seems to stay... help? [13:35] tried removing it? [13:35] it asks to remove ubuntu-desktop if i try [13:35] so i didnt [13:35] should i? [13:41] cant wait for Intrepid [13:41] :) [13:49] considering how hard it will be to maintain 8.04 i guess ubuntu guy will really want us to switch to 8.10 :p [13:49] guys* [14:30] which java plugin is better to install? sun-java6-plugin or icedtea-gcjwebplugin [14:38] Ahh so this line in the nvidia 177.76-0ubuntu1 changelog "Added a workaround for broken EDIDs provided by some Acer [14:38] AL1512 monitors." Would leave me to believe that this has broken my Acer monitor. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-177 [14:38] Is that nvidias bug? [14:39] probably [14:42] gnome 2.4 detached gnome-font-viewer from gnome-control-center [14:44] 2.24* [14:50] Woohoo ! Pulseaudio finally works with Skype ... at least for me :D [14:50] Specifically the recording part [14:52] skype can record? [14:55] if you have both gnome and kde4 installed(like me), gnome-screensaver will fail to start the plasma screensaver, you have to manually change the path [15:16] I have a (MSI) Nvidea (NX)6200AX - I now use the Nvidea driver v177 as recommended by Jockey - is v173 not more stable? So is it better to use v173 to use with older Nvidea chipsets? [15:17] 177.76 is the beta driver [15:17] 173 is the stable one [15:17] for your card, use either one shouldn't make alot of different [15:18] TuTUXG: ok, thanks - to be 100% sure I will switch to 173 [15:18] if it works [15:19] TuTUXG: allhough Jockey still gives v177 as recommended, shouldn't that be fixed? [15:19] i think it just picks the newer one [15:19] TuTUXG: well my monitor is doing sometines strange, maybe its the monitor, but I want to be sure [15:20]