mcasadevall | Are we at the point where -release has to ack every bugfix upload? | 00:10 |
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mcasadevall | Or is that next week? | 00:10 |
slangasek | the archive is frozen, all uploads require a manual ack. | 00:11 |
slangasek | (see /topic) | 00:11 |
slangasek | oh, I guess that just says "beta freeze", so I guess that doesn't explain much after all :P | 00:12 |
* mcasadevall thanks slangasek :-) | 00:13 | |
mcasadevall | I have one last fix for KDE to fix a rather nasty issue on amd64, just need to make sure my fix doesn't miserably break i386 | 00:13 |
directhex | pfft, as if anyone uses fringe architectures like i386 anymore | 00:14 |
* mcasadevall uses the hammer of unjustified pain on directhex | 00:15 | |
mcasadevall | hrm | 00:15 |
pochu | slangasek: enjoy the gnuradio rebuild ;-) | 00:16 |
slangasek | pochu: ah, is wxwidgets fixed? :) | 00:16 |
pochu | slangasek: just uploaded it :) | 00:16 |
slangasek | cool | 00:17 |
slangasek | <yoink> | 00:17 |
Riddell | mcasadevall: what part of KDE do you have a fix for? | 00:19 |
mcasadevall | Riddell, well, Qt, but I mentally assiocate Qt with KDE. the qtjambi | 00:20 |
mcasadevall | ^patch from last night | 00:20 |
* Riddell suspects mcasadevall of secretly being NCommander | 00:21 | |
Riddell | mcasadevall: I uploaded the main fix and (amazingly) it's compiled everywhere but sparc and hppa | 00:22 |
superm1 | Mithrandir, can you also activate ~bluetooth's PPA? | 00:38 |
Mithrandir | superm1: done | 00:41 |
superm1 | thanks Mithrandir | 00:41 |
pochu | slangasek: wxwidgets2.6 2.6.3.2.2-2ubuntu5 (Waiting forapproval) | 00:43 |
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slangasek | superm1|away: ok, what channel did this IRC discussion about bluetooth happen on? :) | 00:58 |
slangasek | superm1|away: and when/how did this regress, if we shipped bluez-utils 3 in hardy without problems? | 00:59 |
wgrant | Are we able to sync from testing-security? | 01:29 |
slangasek | with enough force, we can sync from anywhere | 01:31 |
wgrant | Well, yes, but will I be told to sync it myself if I file a sync request? | 01:31 |
slangasek | if I suggest /before/ you file the sync request that it would be more efficient to sync it yourself, does that help? :) | 01:32 |
wgrant | It does. Are you going to suggest that? | 01:32 |
slangasek | I am | 01:32 |
wgrant | Thanks. | 01:32 |
jdong | and the most interesting indirect conversation of the day award goes to... | 01:39 |
* wgrant indirectly swats jdong. | 01:51 | |
slangasek | pochu: hmm, I don't think this for loop does the right thing - it uses the same value of symlink for each invocation, which means they collide in /etc/alternatives... | 01:53 |
james_w | slangasek: is that advice for syncing from !unstable, or syncing in general at this time? I'd like to pull a fix in from unstable, but already have a patch for Intrepid if needed. | 01:54 |
slangasek | pochu: given that this will be hairy to undo, I think I'm going to sit on this upload rather than approving it, and wait for your comments given that it /happens/ to be in front of me in the unapproved queue right now :) | 01:55 |
slangasek | james_w: !unstable | 01:55 |
james_w | slangasek: cool, thanks | 01:55 |
slangasek | it's !unstable && !experimental, really; those two are tracked by default by the sync tools | 01:56 |
wgrant | Is pitti's syncpackage still the most official unofficial sync method? | 01:57 |
Hobbsee | wgrant: i think so | 01:59 |
wgrant | Hobbsee: Thanks. | 02:00 |
NCommander | hey Hobbsee and wgrant | 02:05 |
wgrant | Hi NCommander. | 02:07 |
NCommander | how goes it? | 02:07 |
pochu | slangasek: bah, right | 02:13 |
Hobbsee | hey NCommander! | 02:13 |
pochu | slangasek: it worked in my test as it was created for 2.5, but not for 2.4 | 02:13 |
pochu | slangasek: is the right solution to use --slave for the second link? | 02:13 |
* NCommander can't feels his legs :-) | 02:14 | |
NCommander | I might be getting a free RS/6000 :-) | 02:14 |
* NCommander would have liked a AlphaStation server, but I'll take what I can get | 02:14 | |
slangasek | pochu: I think ideally you want to create a separate alternative for each pyver; if you use slaves, it's a lot more complicated to remove them when a python version is deprecated | 02:15 |
pochu | slangasek: makes sense | 02:15 |
slangasek | NCommander: I suggest not resting the RS/6000 on your legs | 02:15 |
pochu | slangasek: please reject the previous upload, I'll fix this properly tomorrow and reupload (it's 3am here) | 02:16 |
slangasek | pochu: rejecting, thanks | 02:16 |
pochu | good night! | 02:16 |
NCommander | slangasek, well, this is a really old 7605 RS/6000. I think there are lighter s390 mainframes | 02:16 |
slangasek | NCommander: this is why resting it on your legs is not a good idea | 02:16 |
NCommander | Well, if I find I can't install Ubuntu on it, I plan to send it out in style | 02:17 |
bddebian | Send it to me, I've always wanted an RS/6000 :) | 02:18 |
NCommander | Sure, just pay shipping and handling | 02:18 |
NCommander | Something like 70-100 dollars alone | 02:19 |
NCommander | Er, bddebian, where do you live in the world? | 02:20 |
* NCommander wonders if the Hurd PowerPC port works on it ;-) | 02:20 | |
NCommander | bddebian, I should warn you, its dual boot AIX/Windows NT | 02:20 |
NCommander | Or so I'm told | 02:20 |
bddebian | Near Philadelphia. | 02:21 |
bddebian | And the Hurd PPC port doesn't work | 02:21 |
NCommander | Hrm | 02:21 |
bddebian | It was never finished | 02:21 |
NCommander | If I get it (should have it tommorow if I do), what do you have to trade for it ;-) | 02:21 |
bddebian | 700 Billion dollars. ;-P | 02:22 |
NCommander | Well, I was hoping for either an alphaserver or an SGI Irix box but ... | 02:22 |
ion_ | Cool, www.w3.org made it into Finland’s child pornography blacklist. | 02:22 |
wgrant | slangasek: Thanks (I presume it was you). | 02:23 |
NCommander | o_ol | 02:23 |
* NCommander sighs | 02:23 | |
NCommander | Can someone do me a favor? | 02:23 |
NCommander | (if you run intrepid, and i386? | 02:23 |
NCommander | I'm having trouble test building something due to the fact that I'm stuck on equivelent of dial up | 02:24 |
* NCommander pokes apachelogger | 02:27 | |
Hobbsee | Keybuk: you may want to go and ask in -ops why you have no authority. You certainly should do, by the flags. | 02:28 |
Hobbsee | Keybuk: you're not using out of date scripts or something, are you? | 02:28 |
bddebian | NCommander: I almost got some Irix boxes for free once and I was bummed when it never panned out :9 | 02:29 |
* wgrant is content with having only i386 hardware. | 02:29 | |
NCommander | ahhhhhhhhh | 02:29 |
wgrant | Although amd64 might be nice. | 02:29 |
ion_ | I have a 68060 box. | 02:29 |
Darklock | I have a 8088 box | 02:30 |
ion_ | I have a 6510 box. | 02:31 |
Darklock | damn | 02:31 |
apachelogger | NCommander: sup? | 02:32 |
* NCommander has two sticks | 02:33 | |
NCommander | apachelogger, can you test build something for me? | 02:33 |
ion_ | I have two drumsticks. | 02:33 |
NCommander | ion_, with our stick together, we have four bites | 02:33 |
apachelogger | NCommander: sure | 02:33 |
NCommander | apachelogger, I'm stuck on dial up so I can't download the dependencies for i386 ;.; | 02:34 |
ion_ | ncommander: Perhaps Hobbsee could borrow her pointy stick. | 02:34 |
* Hobbsee has no need to borrow her own Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!™ | 02:34 | |
Hobbsee | ion_: did you mean 'lend'? | 02:34 |
ion_ | Heh, me no good on English speaky-things. | 02:35 |
Hobbsee | :) | 02:35 |
NCommander | ion_, there is no point in borrowing her stick | 02:35 |
NCommander | Its metric, and completely incompable with everything else | 02:35 |
apachelogger | a sonic screwdriver is way better anyway | 02:36 |
NCommander | I perfer a laser screwdriver | 02:36 |
NCommander | more lethal | 02:36 |
* wgrant prefers to avoid such hardwary things. | 02:37 | |
* NCommander notes that wgrant doesn't watch Dr Who | 02:37 | |
* Hobbsee tasers NCommander | 02:37 | |
* NCommander is turned on | 02:37 | |
Hobbsee | oh dear. | 02:37 |
* wgrant confirms NCommander's suspicions. | 02:37 | |
* NCommander tackles Hobbsee and throws her in the COMFY CHAIR | 02:38 | |
NCommander | apachelogger, http://pastebin.ca/1211969 | 02:38 |
Hobbsee | mmm...comfy | 02:38 |
* wgrant gets out the soft cushions. | 02:38 | |
ion_ | Ah, darn. I was under the impression it was a 2.5 furlong stick weighing 4 zentners. | 02:38 |
Hobbsee | ion_: it's both imperial and metric. | 02:38 |
Hobbsee | it's a future stick | 02:38 |
ion_ | It’s in a quantum superposition, collapsing to either only when observed? | 02:39 |
Hobbsee | sounds about right | 02:39 |
* NCommander feels so geeky that he understands that | 02:39 | |
StevenK | Anything can be both imperial and metric, since that's only a form of meaursement, not a defining part of it. | 02:43 |
* NCommander gives StevenK a metric bolt and only imperial wrenches | 02:43 | |
NCommander | :-) | 02:43 |
NCommander | that's how you have metric-imperial compability | 02:43 |
wgrant | Metric and imperial screws often have different threads too. | 02:43 |
StevenK | Sure, but you can meaurse either with either system, its just that one "works out" in one | 02:44 |
StevenK | Like a 10mm screw isn't going to come out to anything sensible in inches | 02:44 |
apachelogger | NCommander: you noticed ubuntu4 is already @ lp? | 02:47 |
NCommander | What, someone updated it since I started working on it? | 02:55 |
NCommander | ;.; | 02:55 |
apachelogger | NCommander: no, it is your ubuntu4 :P | 02:55 |
NCommander | o_O; | 02:56 |
NCommander | uhhhh | 02:56 |
* NCommander blinks | 02:56 | |
* NCommander blinks some more | 02:56 | |
NCommander | I don't remember asking anyone to upload it | 02:56 |
StevenK | Certain developers may have access to your machine ... | 02:56 |
* StevenK chuckles | 02:56 | |
apachelogger | Oo | 02:57 |
NCommander | Well | 02:57 |
NCommander | This is interesting | 02:57 |
NCommander | Since if my patch was done wrong | 02:57 |
apachelogger | More like frightening. | 02:57 |
NCommander | I just broke ever QT Java user on i386 :-) | 02:57 |
apachelogger | NCommander: Qt | 02:57 |
apachelogger | and there are only about 3, so... :P | 02:58 |
NCommander | I really wish there were only i386 users | 02:58 |
NCommander | We could justify dropping the port | 02:58 |
StevenK | You want to drop i386? | 02:58 |
NCommander | Someday | 03:00 |
NCommander | Simply because the x86 infrastructure is a poorly decided POS :-) | 03:00 |
NCommander | er, designing | 03:00 |
NCommander | Looking at the build log, my patch did the right thing :-) | 03:00 |
* NCommander notes it will break if qtjambi was ever built on a 128 or 16 bit architecture but I don't think we need to worry about that) | 03:01 | |
NCommander | YOu know, I think I have a problem if ninja's are uploading my patches without me fully testing them >.>; | 03:09 |
NCommander | StevenK, so what are you up to? | 03:11 |
blaine00__ | hello! | 03:24 |
blaine00__ | why does it seem like no one is ever actuall chatting in these rooms | 03:25 |
ion_ | Wow, four minutes of patience. | 03:27 |
jdong | ion_: better than average. | 03:27 |
jdong | ion_: I've seen someone enter, say nothing, then "why don't you answer me" then leave | 03:28 |
jdong | *shrug* guess it's kinda like forgetting to put your name on a homework :) | 03:28 |
* Hobbsee is not chatting, as she's considering writing a warning mail to the list. | 03:31 | |
* jdong cowers in his corner | 03:32 | |
Hobbsee | jdong: do you file sync requests, when the resulting packages do not install? | 03:32 |
jdong | Hobbsee: usually I don't get people more important than me involved until I'm confident I'm not wasting their time :) | 03:33 |
jdong | Hobbsee: are people just treating sync request as some magical buzzword for getting shiny crack, or are they deliberately implying something works when they've not done the testing necessary? | 03:34 |
Hobbsee | jdong: not sure, but i was just alerted to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-gnome2/+bug/273015 | 03:34 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 273015 in meta-gnome2 "cannot install gnome & gnome-office packages" [High,Confirmed] | 03:34 |
Hobbsee | jdong: the guy usually has more clue. So should the sponsor. | 03:34 |
jdong | Hobbsee: ouch, that should've been caught even by a simple build-and-install test | 03:35 |
Hobbsee | jdong: my thoughts exactly. | 03:35 |
Hobbsee | jdong: there's even pbuilder hooks for this! | 03:35 |
jdong | indeed | 03:35 |
jdong | Hobbsee: the warning e-mail should also remind sponsors to scrutinize contributions a bit more, too | 03:36 |
jdong | IMO the sponsor should've seen this too | 03:36 |
Hobbsee | jdong: tha'ts what i'm thinking. | 03:37 |
Hobbsee | jdong: this slipped through 2 people. Now, i know the queue is long, and we're trying to encourage people to sponsor stuff - but not at the expense of getting crap that doesn't install, into the archive. | 03:37 |
jdong | Hobbsee: particularly at this point in our release cycle | 03:38 |
Hobbsee | jdong: exactly. | 03:38 |
jdong | Hobbsee: whoa... looking at the sync request the contributor even had to make debian/control changes for the merge.... now it really blows my mind how this slipped through | 03:39 |
jdong | I would expect the most important test of metapackages to be their *installability* | 03:39 |
Hobbsee | jdong: the "it built, lets ship it?" philosophy? | 03:39 |
jdong | they should trivially build without errors | 03:39 |
Hobbsee | well, yeah... | 03:40 |
Hobbsee | i mean, pbuilder hooks make this stuff *very* simple. | 03:40 |
Hobbsee | and automated on the end of a build. | 03:40 |
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jdong | perhaps whatever pbuilder helper is in ubuntu-dev-tools should incorporate such hooks by default | 03:41 |
jdong | I have a feeling people may be too lazy to bother setting it up | 03:41 |
Hobbsee | jdong: that might be interesting - but which ones? | 03:48 |
Hobbsee | there's a help section on the end of the pbuilder howto, iirc. | 03:48 |
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calc | gar openoffice.org-l10n failed after 6 hours build on my machine :\ | 03:51 |
* calc ponders guessing he fixed it and just upload it | 03:51 | |
superm1 | slangasek, it appears the combination of bluez-utils 3.36 and btusb causes the regression | 03:52 |
superm1 | slangasek, persia and i were discussing it in #ubuntu-motu | 03:52 |
superm1 | btusb - which is part of 2.6.27 appears to work properly w/ bluez 4.x however | 03:52 |
superm1 | which is the new API for bluez | 03:52 |
superm1 | slangasek, i'll try to add these details to the bug | 03:54 |
Hobbsee | !pbuilder | 03:58 |
ubottu | pbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto | 03:58 |
fargiolas | does anybody know how can I install debug infos for libselinux? | 07:22 |
fargiolas | I looked for the -dbg package but couldn't find any | 07:23 |
persia | fargiolas: Maybe at ddebs.ubuntu.com ? | 07:24 |
fargiolas | persia: thank you, I wasn't aware of that repo | 07:29 |
StevenK | cjwatson: Adding a blacklist of xfce4-panel to the mobile seeds ends up with germinate saying "No changes found" which strikes me as odd. | 08:23 |
cjwatson | germinate-update-metapackage doesn't do anything with blacklists | 08:30 |
cjwatson | I suppose you'd have to manually add a conflicts or something | 08:30 |
StevenK | cjwatson: That strikes me as a little nasty :-) | 08:38 |
cjwatson | StevenK: it's more or less precisely equivalent to a blacklist entry ... | 09:03 |
cjwatson | so no more or less nasty | 09:03 |
cjwatson | if you're happy to use a blacklist entry, logically you should also be happy to use a conflicts | 09:03 |
cjwatson | anyway, off to ante-natal class | 09:03 |
fargiolas | persia: I added ddebs repos to sources.list but still I have no -dbg package for libselinux in intrepid | 09:08 |
geser | fargiolas: try libselinux1-dbgsym | 09:17 |
geser | fargiolas: the dbg packages on ddebs end all in -dbgsym and not -dbg | 09:17 |
fargiolas | geser: I see, but there is no package -dbgsym for selinux :( | 09:18 |
geser | fargiolas: the selinux package contains only some scripts | 09:21 |
geser | for which binary/library do you need dbg info? | 09:22 |
fargiolas | geser: I have a segfault with gst-inspect on a plugin I'm developing and the backtrace says it crash on a libselinux function | 09:23 |
fargiolas | geser: but doesn't say which because there are no dbg symbols | 09:24 |
geser | fargiolas: does it tell you in which lib that function is? | 09:25 |
fargiolas | geser: nope, 0xb66b8974 in ?? () from /lib/libselinux.so.1 | 09:26 |
geser | fargiolas: /lib/libselinux.so.1 is the lib containing the function, which is packaged in libselinux1 and the debug symbols are in libselinux1-dbgsym | 09:29 |
geser | try installing that and you should get some more info in your traceback | 09:29 |
fargiolas | geser: probably in hardy.. no -dbgsym in intrepid | 09:29 |
geser | true | 09:30 |
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geser | fargiolas|afk: unfortunately there aren't any debug symbols for libselinux1 as the package doesn't use the common dh_strip call to strip the debug symbols so it also doesn't trigger the creating of the -dbgsym packages :( | 09:37 |
fargiolas|afk | geser: is it a bug? will it be solved before intrepid stable release? | 09:38 |
geser | more a wishlist but and I doubt it will be fixed before the release, but please file a bug nonetheless, so it's a least known | 09:43 |
fargiolas|afk | geser: going away now, I'll file it later | 09:45 |
fargiolas|afk | geser: thanks | 09:45 |
* \sh should get some sleep...uploading to hardy pocket will not work :( | 09:53 | |
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Adri2000 | do main srus need to be approved *prior* to upload? or is it possible to upload and get the ack later like it is for universe srus? | 14:37 |
wgrant | lool: Why did you close bug #275158? You should really let Soyuz close it, particularly when things have a chance of rejection. | 15:22 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 275158 in xfree86-driver-synaptics "Please enable a build for lpia" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/275158 | 15:22 |
persia | wgrant: source built on Debian | 15:29 |
wgrant | persia: Ahh. | 15:30 |
ramvi | How is the daily intrepid image made? I'm making a fork of ubuntu and would like to utilize the same system | 15:34 |
persia | ramvi: At least the filesystem.squashfs comes from livecd-rootfs. I'm not entirely sure how that turns into an iso, but there's a BuildCD script in the livecd-rootfs source. | 15:36 |
ramvi | persia: must be some kind of application which does the whole thing. should be open source :/ | 15:37 |
persia | ramvi: It may be, I just don't happen to know which application. | 15:38 |
persia | There's some documentation on the wiki about working on this sort of thing, which may help. | 15:38 |
* persia doesn't tend to work with .iso images | 15:39 | |
ramvi | persia: there is? Great - do you have the url ? | 15:41 |
ramvi | So can I do some reading and not bother you guys | 15:41 |
persia | Not offhand. I think it's linked under the Derivatives Team. | 15:41 |
Mithrandir | ramvi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization | 15:41 |
StevenK | [1067796.457016] nautilus[19240]: segfault at 7fffcdb08ff8 rip 7fb8c26a87db rsp 7fffcdb09000 error 6 | 15:45 |
* StevenK sighs | 15:45 | |
ramvi | Mithrandir: not quite what I was looking for. But thanks :) | 15:45 |
StevenK | Mithrandir: I had a look at telepathy and bluetooth, and I can't extend my own membership, please fix. :-) | 15:45 |
Mithrandir | StevenK: fixed | 15:48 |
StevenK | Mithrandir: Danke | 15:48 |
Robot101 | telepathy? :) | 15:49 |
Mithrandir | Robot101: yeah, you know this communication thingie developed by a bunch of crazy hippies based around cambridge. | 15:49 |
Robot101 | yeah, but what about it? can I extole its virtues somehow? :) | 15:50 |
Mithrandir | Robot101: oh, it was just StevenK's membership in the launchpad team that was about to expire, and he couldn't extend it himself, so I did it for him. | 15:50 |
Robot101 | aha, ok :) | 15:52 |
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pochu | Mithrandir: could you please reject meta-gnome2 from the unapproved queue? I want to reuploaded it with a last minute improvement. | 16:28 |
pochu | s/reuploaded/reupload/ | 16:28 |
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lool | wgrant: Cause I built the .changes files from a Debian host | 16:34 |
lool | wgrant: Oh sorry, persia already forwarded the info | 16:35 |
lool | Will update the bug if it gets rejected; I'm sure persia will notice though :) | 16:35 |
persia | Yeah. | 16:35 |
* persia is currently anxiously awaiting the approval of 75% of the unapproved queue, as it directly affects making the new toy work better. | 16:36 | |
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Silicium | hi there | 16:39 |
Mithrandir | pochu: no, the web ui doesn't allow me to. | 16:39 |
Silicium | is there a bug on 8.04 with cpu freqscaling | 16:39 |
Silicium | ? | 16:40 |
Silicium | my kernel is Linux Earth 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux | 16:40 |
Mithrandir | pochu: also, I'm no longer in ubuntu-archive. | 16:40 |
pochu | Mithrandir: but you are on -release. I thought it was -release who approved/rejected things during freezes | 16:41 |
pochu | Mithrandir: thanks anyway | 16:41 |
Mithrandir | pochu: I don't have the relevant buttons in my web UI at least. | 16:42 |
pochu | ok, fair enough | 16:42 |
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pochu | slangasek: so, I've changed python-wxgtk.postinst to install one different alternative for each python version (http://pastebin.com/f602f101d). The problem is that python-wxgtk2.8 doesn't use alternatives anymore, but installs a file directly, which seems to break update-alternatives (install 2.6, symlinks are there and working, install 2.8, files are there and working, remove 2.8, and 2.6 symlinks aren't there anymore). I can switch python-gtk2.8 | 16:54 |
pochu | slangasek: 2.8 was changed back to use files instead of alternatives in bug 211553, but I think that broke python-wxgtk2.6 | 16:54 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 211553 in wxwidgets2.8 "wxPython isn't on path in hardy beta" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211553 | 16:54 |
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pwnguin | is /var/log/acpid still supposed to be written to? | 17:15 |
lool | No | 17:15 |
lool | It's syslog now | 17:16 |
pwnguin | i wish the laptop team wasn't dead =( | 17:17 |
pwnguin | lool: i'd like to monitor for lid events, is that in syslog? | 17:18 |
persia | pwnguin: You ought get an input event for it, from evdev. | 17:21 |
pwnguin | persia: is that exposed to scripting somewhere simple? | 17:21 |
persia | pwnguin: It's an X event. | 17:22 |
persia | I suspect there's probably something that calls a hook script, but I'll admit to not knowing the details. | 17:23 |
pwnguin | tabletPCs have a convertable lid and im hoping the information is sophisticated enough to handle differing between closing the laptop and converting it | 17:23 |
persia | pwnguin: For that, I'd recommend installing input-utils, and reviewing what events are available from the /dev/input/eventN device. | 17:24 |
persia | pwnguin: If you can differentiate, I'd like that: I've a device for which I'd like to do a screen rotation on close, but haven't any clue how to make it work. | 17:25 |
persia | (so please subscribe me to the bug you use to track the fix) | 17:25 |
pwnguin | okies | 17:25 |
pwnguin | do you have a script working currently to rotate automatically? | 17:25 |
pwnguin | err | 17:25 |
pwnguin | not automatically | 17:26 |
persia | No. I just got the device a couple days ago, and just make the touchpad work today. It's still a work-in-progress. | 17:26 |
pwnguin | there's a few rotate scripts out there | 17:26 |
persia | Yeah, and I do have one working on my Zaurus, so I'm sure it's not too hard. | 17:26 |
pwnguin | the trouble is that they mostly rely on querying xrandr which relies in part on the driver | 17:27 |
pwnguin | so nv has different output than nvidia | 17:27 |
persia | Oh, that's unfortunate. | 17:28 |
pwnguin | theres an xrandr library one could presumably use | 17:29 |
pwnguin | that should be smarter than text output | 17:29 |
pwnguin | when you suggested input-utils, what exactly did you have in mind with it? | 17:30 |
pwnguin | ah, i think ive figured it out | 17:35 |
ykphuah1 | asac: for bug 191889, I do not have the intrepid environment to create a fix for NM0.7... how do you suggest I go around this? | 17:35 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 191889 in pidgin "[MASTER] [WORKAROUND] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191889 | 17:36 |
crimsun | ykphuah1: are you working off hardy as a base? | 17:44 |
crimsun | ykphuah1: if so, try working with the network-manager PPA, then, which has a hardy version (# deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/network-manager/ubuntu hardy main) | 17:45 |
ykphuah1 | crimsun: yeah, I am working on hardy, its just scratching my own itch on the stable ubuntu version, for now. | 17:46 |
ykphuah1 | crimsun: the last time I install the NM0.7 over PPA, its very hard to downgrade back to 0.6, with all the dependancies. | 17:46 |
ykphuah1 | crimsun: so it seems like either I have to maintain 0.6 or 0.7, or install both hardy and intrepid. | 17:47 |
ykphuah1 | crimsun: I am just a normal user who do not have the bandwidth to download intrepid just to develop a patch for NM 0.7 | 17:47 |
RainCT | Can someone tell me where the strings "Install Media Plug-ins" and "Buy Licensed Plug-ins..." are used in gnome-app-install? | 17:56 |
RainCT | (I'm translating some new strings, like those, but don't have the version from Intrepid so I can't see where they are used) | 17:57 |
RainCT | basically what I want to know is if they are directed to the computer or to the user | 17:58 |
Chipzz | RainCT: strings directed to the computer should not be translated; if those show up in the list of strings to be translated, that would be a bug and you should file one | 18:01 |
RainCT | Chipzz: that's not what I mean by "directed to the computer" | 18:02 |
pochu | RainCT: they are shown when gnome-app-install pops up to install media codecs iirc | 18:03 |
RainCT | Chipzz: there are two sorts of strings, those directed to the computer, by which I mean strings like "Save", "Print", etc., and those directed to the user "Couldn't do something", etc. | 18:03 |
RainCT | and both types are translated in a different way in Catalan (to the computer in imperative and to the user in a more formal way) | 18:03 |
RainCT | pochu: as buttons or what? | 18:04 |
pochu | RainCT: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CodecInstallationIntrepid | 18:07 |
pochu | RainCT: I haven't seen IRL yet | 18:07 |
Chipzz | RainCT: ah k. but you probably should have been clearer about that then ;) | 18:08 |
RainCT | thanks :) | 18:08 |
Chipzz | (RainCT: the distinction lies in the target language, not the source of the translation) | 18:09 |
RainCT | I guess "playback plug-ins" is the same as "codecs"? | 18:10 |
Chipzz | http://www.ralentz.com/old/mac/humor/mpw-c-errors.html | 18:11 |
Chipzz | ROFL | 18:11 |
Chipzz | "String literal too long (I let you have 512 characters, that's 3 more than ANSI said I should)" | 18:11 |
Chipzz | a compiler with an attitude :) | 18:11 |
Chipzz | "Too many errors on one line (make fewer)" | 18:12 |
Chipzz | :P | 18:12 |
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slytherin | Can any of the archive admins please fix the bug #272866 | 18:39 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 272866 in javassist "Please move package to universe" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272866 | 18:39 |
lool | pwnguin: You can add your own event handler to /etc/acpi; there's an example for the powerbtn already, it's mildly documented in README.Debian | 19:40 |
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