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CIA-50ubiquity: evand * r2857 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):05:37
CIA-50ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: debian-installer-utils05:37
CIA-50ubiquity: 1.59ubuntu3, grub-installer 1.32ubuntu6, hw-detect 1.63ubuntu3,05:37
CIA-50ubiquity: user-setup 1.20ubuntu7.05:37
CIA-50ubiquity: evand * r2858 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.10.005:53
evandcjwatson: Is there a historical reason why grub-installer and lilo-installer use sfdisk rather than parted?06:38
evandcjwatson: also, if you have a free moment, would you give the latest usb-creator a go to see if bug 269052 is still present for you06:52
evand(I cannot reproduce it)06:53
persiaIs passwd/auto_login as a boolean preseed option truly ubiquity-specific, or does it inherit from d-i ?  I'm not seeing it the relevant part of the installation-guide, but wanted to double-check.07:48
evandpersia: it's not ubiquity specific, it's in user-setup.  See user-setup-apply in the user-setup source package.07:53
persiaevand: Thank you.  So "user-setup passwd/auto_login boolean true" would be the correct string?07:54
evandwhatever passwd/auto-login boolean true07:55
evanddash, not underscore07:55
evandand whatever because aiui, the ownership field isn't really important when preseeding07:55
persiaAh.  Right.  Is the value of "whatever" not important?07:56
evandthat's my understanding, but cjwatson might prove me quite wrong.07:56
persiaWell, I was advised to use d-i for whatever for everything in my last preseed file.  I suspect I'll want it here as well, as user-setup seems a fairly standard d-i component.07:57
evandubiquity definitely doesn't care as casper just uses debconf-set-selections on the preseed file07:59
evander, it's late.  That's irrelevant.  Ignore my previous statement.07:59
persiaand ubiquity doesn't seem to even check the value of whatever when trying to comprehend the preseeding.08:00
persiaRight.  Found it.  Thanks.08:01
evandanytime08:02
persiaOh, and just in case you haven't been told enough lately: ubiquity is *wonderfully* flexible and themeable, and I've been pleasantly surprised by how well it has worked in each of the environments I've tried it.08:02
evandThank Colin, he laid the foundation, I'm just here to build flimsy walls ;)08:03
evandThanks though08:04
evandhrm, figuring out an EBUSY in mount in the initramfs where lsof isn't available.08:13
evandThis should be fun.08:13
cjwatsonevand: sfdisk> historical state rather than historical reason, I think. They ought to use parted or a libparted-based program.08:16
evandok08:17
evandthanks08:17
cjwatsonevand: ok, I'll have a look at 269052 when I can08:17
cjwatsonpersia: "d-i" as the owner would be right08:17
evandSo there are no relevant processes running, there's nothing mounted below /cdrom, and yet I cannot remount it ro (when persistent is set in the kernel command line)08:17
cjwatsonthe owner field isn't directly important when preseeding, but it does matter for proper garbage-collection of the debconf database further down the line08:18
persiacjwatson: Excellent.  Thank you.08:18
evandnoted08:18
cjwatsonevand: bind-mounts maybe?08:19
persiaSo by using "d-i" as owner, one can identify the installation-only stuff, or by using "tasksel" one can identify the task-selection stuff?08:19
persiaAnd then (non-udeb) packages register their own directly?08:19
evandhrm, perhaps this?:08:21
evand /dev/sda1 on /cdrom08:21
evand /dev/sda1 on /casper-rw-backing08:21
evandeverything else is unmounted (save /sys, /proc, /dev and /)08:22
CIA-50debian-installer: cjwatson * r966 ubuntu/debian/changelog:08:23
CIA-50debian-installer: No-change rebuild to pick up new components, including disabling the08:23
CIA-50debian-installer: broken e1000e driver.08:23
cjwatsonpersia: d-i is magic in that questions with that owner don't get copied to the target system. (Disclaimer: I haven't checked recently that ubiquity honours this ...)08:24
cjwatsonpersia: for everything else, setting an owner means that those questions will get unregistered when the owning package is purged08:25
* persia checks on a very recently ubiquity-installed system08:25
CIA-50debian-installer: cjwatson * r967 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20080522ubuntu1608:26
persiaIndeed.  None of the d-i entries are shown by debconf-get-selections on a ubiquity-installed system.08:29
xivulonsuperm1, lupin-casper is missing from mythbuntu, that is required to use it with wubi11:44
xivulonsuperm1, after installing I am left with a ubuntu user15:13
superm1xivulon, do you need a disk mastered with lupin-casper then, or can you test around it?15:59
superm1xivulon, yeah i'm aware of that happening re: the ubuntu user, but not sure how to take care of it atm16:00
persiasuperm1: What's happening with the ubuntu user?16:04
superm1persia, on mythbuntu disks the entire home directory for the "ubuntu" live session user isn't getting wiped16:04
superm1it comes from a side effect of the way that we build the disks i believe right now16:05
xivulonsuperm1, would be better to have lupin-casper in the iso although I can work around16:05
persiasuperm1: Are you copying /rofs ?16:05
* persia thought /home/ubuntu came from casper at boot time16:06
superm1persia, just like regular ubuntu operates in copying files16:06
persiastrange.16:06
* persia grabs a mythbuntu image.16:06
superm1its because i believe during our ISO generation something gets added - a background i believe16:06
superm1it showed up a while ago, and its been off my radar for a bit - but one of the deterants that has kept from switching to the livecd.sh that is used for making canonical disks16:07
superm1xivulon, is lupin-casper automatically removed when ubiquity is done, or would this be something that had to be added to code to do so?16:08
persiasuperm1: You don't use livecd-rootfs livecd.sh ?16:09
xivulonsuperm1, lupin-casper only affects the casper initrd adding extra boot options, so after installation it is not used since a regular initrd gets installed16:09
superm1persia, not currently - that was one of the things that i was going to convert over to this cycle, but with virtualbox being broke for such a long time, i didn't have a method to test CDs16:10
superm1other than burn and bring to real hardware16:10
superm1ah xivulon16:10
xivulonthat said we do install lupin-support at the end of the installation...16:11
superm1persia, we do a decent job at emulating most of it's functionality though atm16:12
xivulonso that packages has to be on the iso16:12
persiasuperm1: Hrm.  Well, I'll look at the structure, and contents of the squashfs, but I suspect the migration might fix the issue.16:12
superm1persia, yeah i'm pretty sure it would.  so hopefully for jaunty can take another stab at trying to migrate16:13
persiaI know that changing from Moblin Image Creator to livecd-rootfs fixed *lots* of issues with Ubuntu MID.16:13
persiasuperm1: I only find the alternate CD.  From where should I pull a daily?16:14
superm1persia, the daily mirror isn't public right now (we're migrating servers).  grab alpha 616:14
superm1from mythbuntu.org16:14
superm1it will try to offer you a mirror local to you16:14
persiaOK.  I'm not having luck with navigation.16:16
persiaAh. Found it.16:16
superm1http://mythbuntu.org/download/?file=mythbuntu-8.10-alpha6-desktop-i386.iso16:16
persiasuperm1: Yep.  It's in your squashfs, which is why it gets there.16:25
superm1persia, well would you perhaps have a good recommendation on how to have a different background just during install then without making modifications to casper?16:25
persiaNope.  That would be a casper thing.16:26
superm1then most definitely will need to be deferred to jaunty16:26
persiaWell, it doesn't necessarily need modifications to core casper: you could just drop the additional casper scripts on the ISO.16:27
xivulonnm resets static ip info and goes back to dhcp17:42
xivulonthe above is in mythbuntu not sure yet if the same holds on standard intrepid (settings get reset at reboot)17:44
xivulonget the same behaviour on vm18:12
superm1xivulon, well we dont do anything special in NM18:13
superm1so i'd imagine same bugs holds true to both18:14
xivulonadded a comment to #536418:20

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