[00:06] <Pici> Bad eyes?
[00:08] <LjL> maybe, maybe
[00:09] <Myrtti> this just happened... http://ihasahotdog.com/2008/09/26/cute-puppy-pictures-m-ma-a-a-s-a-g-g-g-e/
[00:11] <Pici> hehe
[00:20] <Myrtti> and this http://ihasahotdog.com/2008/09/26/cute-dog-pictures-yes-mom-im-a-wake/ has happened more than once. s/mom/[(jussi01)|(sister)|(workmate)|(anyone foolish enough to call me)]/
[04:19] <mneptok> anyone know who runs uvirtbot?
[04:25] <Mez> soren
[04:25] <Mez> (apparently)
[04:26] <Mez> http://rafb.net/p/lqGxgj55.html <-- @mneptok
[04:26] <mneptok> Mez: yeah, asking about it internally now
[04:27] <Mez> internally ?
[04:27] <mneptok> yes.
[04:27] <Mez> why - whats it done?
[04:27] <mneptok> just wondering why the channel isn;t using the official Ubuntu IRC bots.
[04:59] <Flannel> mmm, got my first nagger.
[05:14] <Flannel> It'd be *!name@* for banning by name?
[05:15] <Flannel> or is that +d?
[05:16] <Flannel> +d is for gecos stuff, not ident, yes?
[05:17] <Flannel> blah
[05:17] <Flannel> anyone?
[05:17] <Flannel> I've got the syntax wrong obviously.
[05:17] <Flannel> helloooooooooooooooooo
[05:19] <Flannel> maco: I'm working on it.
[05:19] <maco> Flannel: i just wanted to come watch the fun go down
[05:19] <Flannel> maco: No spectating here, thanks though.
[05:19] <maco> ok
[05:20] <Flannel> alright, time for recent people.  mneptok?
[05:21] <maco> Flannel: wait, would it perhaps avoid the appending __ workaround if the * went before the @?
[05:21] <Flannel> I was hoping to match his ident instead of nick
[05:21] <maco> i saw that
[05:22] <maco> did it change?
[05:22] <maco> it said dynamic
[05:22] <Flannel> no.  Im just doing it wrong.
[05:22] <maco> oh
[05:22] <maco> heh ok
[06:13] <elky> whups, sorry :(
[06:13] <Flannel> elky: I got an interm solution that seems to be working.  But it is blocking much more than it ough tot.
[06:13] <Flannel> ought to, that is.
[06:14] <elky> i dont even know what you're talking about yet
[06:14] <Flannel> elky: That's fine.
[06:55] <Flannel> ubottu: tell Daft_Punk about noob
[07:17] <nalioth> Flannel: what banning were you trying to accomplish?
[07:18] <Flannel> nalioth: Trying to ban the ident of pur3
[07:18] <Flannel> because he had a dynamic IP, and was just appending underscores
[07:21] <nalioth>   /mode #channel +b *!pur3@* would do it, Flannel 
[07:21] <elky> nalioth, um, are you wathcing the freenode channel?
[07:21] <Flannel> nalioth: I tried that... let me double check
[07:21] <Flannel> mode/#ubuntu [+b *!pur3@*] by Flannel
[07:21] <Flannel> that, right?
[07:21] <nalioth> looks right.
[07:22] <Flannel> yeah, didn't work
[07:22] <nalioth> but smart trolls review the ban list and adapt
[07:22] <Flannel> nalioth: He wasnt doing it, he still joined as the same ident
[07:22] <nalioth> ah, my bad
[07:22] <nalioth>   /mode #channel +b *!?=pur3@* would do it, Flannel 
[07:22] <Flannel> Ah
[07:22] <Flannel> Right.
[07:22]  * nalioth is suffering from insomnia
[07:22] <Flannel> nalioth: Thanks... I've gotta write that down somewhere.
[07:24] <maco> nalioth: would that block pur3_ and pur3__ too?
[07:24] <nalioth> maco: it'll block anyone with an ident of pur3
[07:25] <maco> nalioth: does that not change when one does /nick?
[07:27] <maco> ive never had to ban anyone in #ubuntuforums, but if i did, i wouldn't really know how
[07:30] <Flannel> maco: When they join, you see *=ident@[host]
[07:30] <Flannel> maco: ident usually defaults to their username, being settable by clients, but it doesn't generally change with nick changes
[07:31] <Flannel> I believe you'd have to reconnect to the network to change the ident
[07:31] <maco> Flannel: oh ok. thanks
[07:46] <nalioth> trolls are good at scrambling all of it
[07:46] <nalioth> filthy animals, trolls
[07:48] <Flannel> nalioth: you'd think you'd be clean living under bridges, with all that water
[08:48] <Myrtti> ör röörö
[08:48] <Myrtti> moin...
[08:56] <Flannel> Howdy Myrtti 
[08:58] <Myrtti> anything interesting going on?
[08:58] <nalioth> same trolls, different day
[08:59] <Flannel> Interesting stuff is always going on, you just have to know where to look
[08:59] <Myrtti> as usual
[09:16] <elky> pleia2, Myrtti i'm getting more complaints about 'slamfist' merely existing in -women. the nick is rather violent, i think it's making domestic violence victims unsettled.
[09:19] <nalioth> does this person interact there?
[09:21] <elky> i'm being told 'he' has pm'd Myrtti
[09:25] <elky> Myrtti, is this true?
[09:27] <nalioth> if they're not interacting in there, use "ye olde do not idle" rule 
[09:27] <elky> nalioth, most of that channel is idlers
[09:28] <nalioth> and?
[09:28] <nalioth> most of the channel isn't sending nastygrams
[09:28] <elky> it would defeat the purpose of the channel
[09:28] <elky> who says he's sending nastygrams?
[09:29] <nalioth> i'm lost.
[09:31] <elky> the nickname is 'slamFIST' in a channel where women are supposed to feel safe.
[09:32] <elky> a proportion of the women in there have been victims of domestic violence
[09:32] <elky> you do not think the presence of a nick implying the slamming of a fist is going to be concerning to them, with or without anything else?
[09:33] <Flannel> Have you asked him to change his nick? and explained why?
[09:33] <elky> Flannel, i've pm'd but there's a porportion of the world asleep at th emoment
[09:44] <nalioth> this is the same thing as any other abusive nick
[09:44] <elky> and we give any other abusive nick a chance to change before we remove them
[09:45] <nalioth> some, yes.
[09:45] <elky> i'd rather do this in a way that will not result in backlash, which will be more traumatic than a silent nick in a channel
[10:03]  * jussi01 walks in
[10:13] <Myrtti> elky: yes
[10:13] <elky> Myrtti, what did he say?
[10:14] <Myrtti> laacque asked me about him few days ago, that's when I pinged about him you an pleia2 
[10:14] <Myrtti> so I threw a trollbait for him few days back since he said something on the channel and said "hi" to him.
[10:15] <Myrtti> I've, of course, got logs of them pm, as I have logged every pm for three years now
[10:15] <elky> is it good or bad or what?
[10:15] <Myrtti> just for these occasions and for recording phone numbers etc.
[10:15] <Myrtti> I can pastebin it for you
[10:15] <Myrtti> it wasn't bad as such...
[10:16] <elky> pastebin and pm to me, please
[10:16] <Myrtti> I just couldn't think of a way to respond to it so I forgot the whole thing >___<
[10:16] <elky> let me deal then
[10:18] <Myrtti> ok
[10:18] <Myrtti> I'll read the friendly man pastebinit first
[10:26] <elky> oh geez
[10:27] <Myrtti> you want me to be the bitch?
[10:27] <Myrtti> I don't mind at all
[10:27] <nalioth> you can blame it on me, if you like  :D
[10:27] <Myrtti> hehe
[10:28] <elky> already done
[10:28] <Myrtti> banforward him here for fun and giggles?
[10:28] <elky> now all i have to do is put up with laacque when she realises she got her way, for a completely different reason.
[10:28] <Myrtti> :-D
[10:28] <Myrtti> may I banforward him here? pllliiizz
[10:29] <elky> sure, but make sure you're here when he gets here, or someone will end up unbanning him and he'll go right back to it
[10:29] <Myrtti> hmmm
[10:29] <Myrtti> ubottu: hugs
[10:29] <Myrtti> hmph
[10:30] <Myrtti> @btlogin
[10:30] <Myrtti> I *AM* a cunning and a sly person.
[10:30] <Myrtti> and evil
[10:31] <Myrtti> :-D
[10:31] <elky> heh
[10:31] <kahrytan> Hobbsee stop being rude
[10:31] <kahrytan> and impolite
[10:31] <kahrytan> If you fail to do this, I will report you
[10:31] <Myrtti> hello good folks
[10:31] <Myrtti> oops
[10:31] <Hobbsee> hey Myrtti, how's it going?
[10:32] <kahrytan> Last warning, Hobbsee. I do not take insults from OPs lightly. 
[10:32] <kahrytan> goodbye.
[10:32] <Myrtti> just fiddled with the bantracker to get a recent perpetrator from -women on it so I can banforward him here
[10:32] <Hobbsee> bye!
[10:33] <kahrytan> And if you think you are in the right, then you are sadly wrong.  i got the channel logged. Saving to flash drive.
[10:33] <Hobbsee> good thing it's publically logged too, then.
[10:33] <nalioth> i dont' even want to know
[10:33] <elky> nalioth, see +1
[10:34] <Hobbsee> well, it started with "<kahrytan> Oli``»  In what craphole did you hear that?", and goes downhill from there....
[10:34] <elky> Hobbsee, no, it started at <kahrytan> So, will Intrepid have a crap colored theme ?
[10:34] <Hobbsee> elky: noted, sorry.  I got the wrong line.
[10:34] <elky> that tone just spells out the result
[10:34] <Hobbsee> elky: my thoughts exactly.
[10:34] <elky> it's like he's learning from limcore
[10:35] <Hobbsee> you know *I* was thinking that too.  They're very similar.
[10:35] <elky> just lets hope that limcore doesnt learn the finer points of bullying and intimidation from him
[10:36]  * nalioth muses about changing 'ban' to 'k-line' in his scripts . . . .    <EG>
[10:36] <Myrtti> elky: see bantracker
[10:36] <Hobbsee> hopefully not.  But i expect that what happens to one who behaves like that, can happen to the other.
[10:36] <elky> btlogin
[10:37] <elky> @btlong
[10:37] <elky> gah
[10:37]  * Hobbsee hands elky  a @
[10:37] <elky> @btlogin
[10:37] <elky> hand me a decent keyboard
[10:37] <elky> and the @ will come naturally
[10:37] <Hobbsee> you're on the eeepc still?
[10:38] <elky> no, but i'm yet to find a really properly decent laptop keyboard
[10:39] <elky> i want one halfway between this keyboard and the eee keyboard, i'll be happy
[10:39] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[10:39] <Flannel> elky: thinkpad keyboards are awesome
[10:39] <elky> Flannel, feel free to donate one to me
[10:40]  * nalioth gets in line
[10:41] <Myrtti> porridge time!
[10:41] <Myrtti> holy hell is it that late already?
[10:41] <nalioth> it's a quarter to 5 (in the morning) where I sit ( isn't insomnia great? )
[10:42] <kahrytan> nalioth, last warning. Abusing ops powers to kick someone is not to be tolerated. Your abuse of powers has also been logged. Future abuse will be sent to the Ubuntu Council since your position on Council create biased council. As a future warning to other ops, any further disrespect (and violation of CoC) of myself will result in a log sent to IRC Council. If you are member of irc council, it will be sent to Ubuntu Council. 
[10:43] <Myrtti> geez
[10:43] <Hobbsee> wait, what?
[10:44] <Hobbsee> if kahrytan breaks the CoC, a log will get sent to the irc council.  OK then.
[10:44]  * nalioth blinks
[10:44] <Hobbsee> or the Ubuntu Council (which incidently, doesn't exist)
[10:45]  * Hobbsee wonders why the repeated threats from people make them allowed in ubuntuland at all.
[10:46] <Hobbsee> and apart from that, it was a remove, not a kick.  When will he learn?
[10:46] <Tm_T> no idea
[10:46] <elky> Hobbsee, if he was ever going to learn, he would have done it by now
[10:47] <Tm_T> logs what have happened is found from u+1 right?
[10:47] <Hobbsee> elky: then why the heck is he still here?
[10:47] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: eparse?
[10:47] <Myrtti> Tm_T: flushed by the full hour, I presume
[10:47] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: the kahrytan incident took place in +1, am I right?
[10:47] <elky> Hobbsee, because the CC was unclear, and kind of took his side because of something i said 18mths ago
[10:47] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: ah, yes, correct.
[10:47] <elky> Tm_T, yes
[10:48] <Tm_T> roger
[10:48] <Tm_T> Myrtti: yep, thanks sis (:)
[10:48] <Hobbsee> elky: darn.  You would have thought that was over by now, and the CC could deal with it from new.
[10:48] <Tm_T> hrrr, today some wedding planning <3
[10:49] <Myrtti> oh darn, that too...
[10:49] <elky> Hobbsee, the cc of course did not take his side, and he refuses to accept the the apology because i dont lie in it to make him feel validated for threatening me in PM prior to the comment i made.
[10:49] <Myrtti> I'm afraid I'll hate the next week
[10:49] <Hobbsee> elky: pity.  Oh well.
[10:49]  * Hobbsee wonders since when a CC decision is actually needed, to take out repeated threatening users.
[10:50]  * Hobbsee --> dinner
[10:50] <Tm_T> Myrtti: awww, well if it's getting too difficult it isn't problem if you can't make it
[10:50] <Tm_T> it's small event anyways
[10:50] <Myrtti> Tm_T: the problem is that I *want* to be there
[10:50] <Tm_T> awww <3<3
[10:50] <Myrtti> I just *hate* the travel
[10:51] <Tm_T> RHCP - Walkabout
[10:52] <Myrtti> would someone please invent that teleporter already
[10:52] <Flannel> Myrtti: working on it
[10:53] <Flannel> Myrtti: I think by Jaunty we ought to have an alpha version in the repos.  Allowing any PC to be turned into a teleportation device.  sudo apt-get install teleportation, just make sure you also buy a cloth bag to stick over your monitor, you don't want random people showing up in your house because of bugs
[10:54] <elky> ROFL
[10:55] <Myrtti> Flannel: when was the last time I announced my undying and conditionless love to you?
[10:55] <Tm_T> never?
[10:55]  * Tm_T hides
[10:56] <Myrtti> true
[10:56] <Myrtti> ♥ Flannel
[11:21] <Flannel> Why thankee Myrtti
[11:50] <Tm_T> bit offtopic but... http://digg.com/world_news/World_Wide_Web_Consortium_censored_in_Finland
[11:51] <christel> Hobbsee, other irc council/ops people: in the event that kahrytan returns and harasses anyone or makes threats again, they will be evading a network ban and i'd appreciate it if you could alert staff if you sight them and we dont, thank you :)
[11:52] <Tm_T> christel: ah, will keep eyes open
[11:52] <christel> thanks Tm_T :)
[11:53] <jussi01> christel: no probs, will keep an eye out.
[11:53] <christel> :)
[11:54] <elky> thanks christel. he's been quite a burden.
[11:55] <Tm_T> @btlogin
[11:55] <christel> yeah, he sounds it :/
[11:55] <Tm_T> mmmm, nothing?
[11:56] <Tm_T> oh boy, ma internets 'r b0rked
[12:23] <Hobbsee> christel: oh, great, thanks.  :)
[15:24] <Guest22607> Just last night I got permanently banned for spamming
[15:25] <Guest22607> Though I do not know howto spam if i even tried
[15:25] <Tm_T> hmm, where?
[15:25] <Guest22607> Anyway, Ubuntuforums sent me this email:
[15:25] <LjL> Guest22607: moment
[15:25] <Guest22607> Your recent spam attack on $vboptions[bbtitle] has been thwarted with two clicks. Nice try, you're banned.
[15:25] <LjL> ah, from the forums?
[15:26] <Guest22607> yes, Ubuntuforums.org
[15:26] <LjL> we don't deal with the forums, you should probably ask in #ubuntuforums
[15:26] <LjL> but perhaps you're simply on a dynamic IP address
[15:26] <Guest22607> oh, Im sry
[15:26] <LjL> which just happened to be used by a spammer
[15:26] <Guest22607> Really????
[15:26] <Tm_T> aww
[15:26] <LjL> don't know, just a thought
[15:26] <Guest22607> I did a check on netstat when it happened
[15:27] <Guest22607> there weren't any strange connections
[15:27] <Guest22607> course that's just on my end
[15:27] <Guest22607> well thank you kindly
[15:27] <LjL> Guest22607: yes, that's on your end. what i'm thinking of it that someone else *previously* had that IP, and spammed
[15:27] <Guest22607> i will go by #ubuntuforums then
[15:27] <LjL> yeah, someone should know in there
[15:28] <Guest22607> The post that I made was six pages long
[15:28] <Guest22607> is that considered spam?
[15:28] <LjL> if it was *content*, i'm sure not
[15:29] <LjL> unless it somehow triggered some automatic spamtrap...
[15:29] <LjL> but really, i can't but guess
[15:29] <Guest22607> well then i better go by that channel, thx for your help
[15:29] <Guest22607> :)
[15:34] <jussi01> Hey all!
[15:34] <jussi01> Guest22607: anything else we can do for you?
[15:35] <jussi01> !idle | Guest22607
[16:25] <WastePotato> Guys.
[16:25] <WastePotato> This guy keeps spamming in -uk
[16:26] <stdin> WastePotato: only the people listed by the ops call can do anything about it (and staff)
[16:26] <WastePotato> Oh Gawd.
[16:26] <WastePotato> :/
[16:26] <WastePotato> Oh well...
[16:50] <jrib> LjL: italiano giro, that's you right?
[16:50] <LjL> jrib: ... excuse me?
[16:50] <jrib> heh, #ubuntu
[16:50] <jrib> what does giro mean?
[16:50] <LjL> ah
[16:51] <LjL> "giro" means "circle" literally
[16:51] <LjL> but "in giro", while it would mean "in (the) circle" literally, means "around"
[16:51] <jrib> ah
[16:51] <LjL> the question was "is there an italian around here"
[18:33] <Myrtti> dumdidum
[21:45] <Myrtti> ♬♪ America - Ventura Highway
[21:46] <Myrtti> ♥ ♥ 
[22:27]  * PriceChild does
[22:32] <ompaul> tritium, that was fast 
[22:32] <tritium> :)
[23:13] <PriceChild> !test
[23:17] <Myrtti> I thought he was going to be like two hours ago...
[23:17] <PriceChild> ?
[23:18] <Myrtti> just wondering how he could've Excess Flooded himself off the network