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deviantum00:00
deviantim having xserver issues00:00
deviantsince installing the latest round of updates00:00
deviantanyone else having similar?00:00
deviantno?00:03
Odd-rationaledeviant: what driver?00:03
deviantif you mean video, just software00:03
devianthavent installed nvidia-glx00:04
deviantfrom what i could see the updates were thunderbird 2.0.0.17 and libc00:04
Odd-rationaledeviant: what kind of issues?00:04
devianti just get a blue background with text saying the xserver couldn't start00:05
deviantand then the text login prompt appears00:05
Odd-rationaledeviant: are you on another machine right now?00:06
deviantno booted using live cd00:06
Odd-rationaledeviant: what version of ubuntu do you have installed?00:06
deviantits xubuntu 8.04.100:06
deviantim using a lenovo 3000 n200 laptop00:07
deviantbeen working absolutely fine until this00:07
Odd-rationaledeviant: can you go to /media/<disk>/etc/X11/xorg.conf and pastebin that file?00:07
deviantill try yeah00:07
Odd-rationalehere's the pastebin link:00:08
Odd-rationale!pastebin00:08
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Odd-rationaledeviant: note that is is /media/<disk>/etc/... not just /etc/00:08
devianthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/51094/00:13
Nillerz!bye | deviant00:14
ubottudeviant: Au revoir!00:14
NillerzHuh. I'll be.00:14
Odd-rationaledeviant: have you tried booting into recovery mode and select: Fix broken xorg?00:15
devianthavent00:15
devianthow do i do that?00:15
Odd-rationaledeviant: before grub loads, press esc. then choose recover mode for your kernel...00:17
deviantoh right, ill try it00:17
deviantthanks !:)00:17
Odd-rationaledeviant: i gtg. ttyl.00:18
NillerzOkay I still can't access folders on a windows computer00:31
NillerzAny help?00:31
Nillerz!fusesmb doesn't work00:31
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:31
NillerzI get connection timeouts00:32
NillerzEvery time I mount fusesmb and try to access teh directory I get an error stating the connection timed out00:37
test3rI forgot where the test releases are and would like to boot newest build. How do I find Intrepid Alpha 6???01:43
test3rwait sry found it01:45
test3r:)01:45
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nnullim pretty sure it would be but i just wanna double check, its a bad idea to run a encrypted partition on a very low resource pc correct?02:16
zoredacheit probably wouldn't work out to well...02:30
nnullyea i did last night, runs like a dog02:52
nnulllike a dog i say02:52
nnulli need him running like horse not like dog, i cant put a saddle on a dog02:53
nnullor could i....02:53
test3rnnull >> IMHO: you can when it's running LUNIX core (more so with Debian, even!). Try to do it with Windows, and, you're right, it doesn't work.03:20
Genelyko/03:38
[biabia]anyone do much printing of shell scripts or text files from the shell using lpr or cupsdoprint? i dont like the small thin default font but i cant figure out how to change it04:48
flybackcollapses on the floor crying from the sound of mikey mouse having sex family guy06:16
aleci just installed xubuntu on an old mac and having some display problems06:38
alechow do i connect wirlessly using xubuntu, i just installed it06:48
alec_i need help, new to xubuntu, having display problems07:59
TheSheepalec_: any details?08:08
alec_i installed xubuntu feisty ppc, on an old mac g3, the install went fien, except the display is skewed, the left of the screen is blank.08:26
alec_someone told me to download displayconfig-gtk08:26
alec_i did this and it made the dislay much worse08:26
alec_but it seemed to be a suggestion in the right vein.08:27
TheSheepalec_: you don't download it, it's installed y default08:30
TheSheepalec_: but I don't know much about power pc versions of xubuntu08:30
TheSheepalec_: if it's feisty, you can try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and set the right settings for your hardware there08:31
alec_TheSheep: I dont know anything, i believe that it wasnt installed, but i certainly couldnt be sure. i think i need to somehow set the display settings but im not sure how08:32
TheSheepalec_: it's possible it wasn't there in feisty yet08:32
TheSheepalec_: the command I gave you should alolow you to set the display settings08:33
alec_TheSheep: im new to linux so you will ahve to bare with me08:33
alec_TheSheep: do you have any suggestions for correcting the display being offset, and the top of the display running the bottom up the top. and i know that this hardly makes any sense08:34
TheSheepalec_: try openning the terminal and typing 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'08:35
TheSheepalec_: then it will ask you for your password and let you configure your x server08:35
alec_TheSheep: ill try, when i installed displayconfig-gtk, if thats waht i did, i set the screen far less readable that it was. so its super hard to see,08:36
alec_i was planning on reistalling08:36
alec_its possible to boot straight to terminal is that correct?08:38
TheSheepalec_: you can also switch to terminal with alt+ctrl+f1, f2, f3, etc.08:39
alec_is there a key i can hold down during startup to open to terminal?08:40
alec_thank you for the help by the way08:41
TheSheepalec_: you can switch to terminal with already running system, with that alt+ctrl+f1. if you press esc while booting, you should also have a menu where you can select 'recovery mode' or somethng like that08:42
TheSheepbut I'm not sure whther this powerks for ppc08:42
TheSheep!display08:43
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:43
alec_TheSheep: thanks, im giving it a try08:43
alec_thank you ubutto08:44
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alec_i thought so08:47
alec_im not so familiar with irc etiquite. what does the ! point mean before something?08:48
TheSheepit's a command for the bot08:49
Myrttiits a command for the bot08:49
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alec_irc is a weird and wild place08:50
Myrttiwelcome ;-)08:50
alec_i feel so small and insignificant08:50
TheSheepthat will pass08:50
alec_should i listen to this bot?08:51
alec_because i am08:51
Myrttithat one, yes08:51
alec_and a bot is?08:51
Myrttia program running on a server handling some tedious repeating tasks08:52
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alec_like my asking how to fix my display problem in xubunty feisty ppc08:52
Myrttiit knows only data given to it...08:53
alec_do you know anything more than data given to you? because the bot was wrong08:54
TheSheepwell, that would be me being wrong08:54
Myrttibot was wrong? hmmm.08:55
alec_oh08:55
alec_hey man, im just glad someone is helping me at 4 in the morning f with my decade old computer08:56
alec_its one of those its the thought that counts sort of things08:57
Myrttiits not 4am ;-)08:57
Myrtti2008-09-27 10:57:5708:57
alec_where are you? it is for me08:58
MyrttiFinland, just woke up08:58
alec_oh! well, very nice, im in  new york08:59
alec_and its early08:59
alec_didnt you guys invent this linux?09:00
TheSheepno09:00
alec_well, i told you i didnt know anything09:00
MyrttiLinus started it, thats all09:00
alec_so no suggestions for display problems>09:01
TheSheepand many people before him,  like Stallman, Kerningham and Ritchie, etc.09:01
alec_?09:01
TheSheepalec_: the dpkg-reconfigure thing didn't work?09:01
Myrttithat sudo dpkg-reconfigure should do it09:01
alec_well it did something that effected the problem i had, but it didnt fix it09:02
Myrttiyou've uninstalled that gtkdisplayconf thing?09:02
alec_its hard to describe but the display was all there before but the bottom repeated at the bottom, and the left quarter was blank09:03
alec_now the screen is half the and smooched against the right side and theres more black09:03
alec_it seems to me it worked but in the wrong way09:04
alec_oh no i havent unistalled09:04
alec_i tried to reverse the command in terminal, but now i can hardly see the screen so who knows what i did09:05
alec_im like the high maintainance girlfriend arent i?09:05
MyrttiI wouldn't know :->09:07
alec_lucky09:08
alec_you should leave finland and come to NY they love guys over here who have a healthy linux habit09:08
alec_and im not kidding09:09
alec_or your not a guy.09:09
alec_opps09:09
sulleftw09:09
Myrttiexactly ;-)09:09
Myrttihi sulle09:09
sullehi =)09:09
alec_oh not a boy. well the same goes for you09:10
sullebeen up all night trying to find out what grub error 22 was and how to fix it. and it was realy easy when i found out.:P. hate beeing a unix noob :(09:10
Myrttisulle: we've all been there...09:11
alec_does anyone who just came know how to fix a xubuntu display problem09:12
alec_?09:12
sulleis it a wide screen?09:12
alec_sulle: no09:12
alec_its not displaying properly09:12
alec_i just installed on an old mac09:13
sullehow does it look?09:13
sullewhat is the problem?09:13
alec_hard to describe09:13
sullehmm09:14
alec_i can see part of the display, but the left quarter is blacked out and the top repeats at the bottom.09:14
alec_i cant describe it09:14
sullewhat mac is it?09:15
alec_the folks above told me to try configdisplay-gtk and it effected it but not the way i wanted09:15
alec_an old ibook09:15
alec_i think a g309:15
alec_old09:16
sulleWell i am a noob so i have no clue how to fix it. but do as i do and google it. Maybe we will find something.09:18
alec_thanks09:19
alec_i am very much a noob too09:19
alec_and i have09:19
sulleHave you posted the problem on ubuntu forums?09:19
sulleThat might help you out alot.09:20
alec_ive spent like a week finding the distro and how to install it an so on09:20
alec_i have, but i am yet to reciecve a response. ill get there, it will jsut take some work09:20
alec_and it helps that i have the computer im on that runs ubuntu just fine09:21
alec_so its 11 in finland? lucky bastards09:21
sulleThe shooting?, wasnt it 10 ?09:21
knomewoot?09:22
alec_not me? you mean someone else?09:22
sullewhat? i am confused.09:23
knome11 what? the clock?09:23
alec_never mond09:23
sullehahah09:23
alec_mind09:23
sulleoh sorry i am tierd as H*ll.09:24
knomenp09:24
sulleWell its 10:24 here "norway".09:24
knomei'm still at bed09:24
alec_its 4:30 here09:24
sullehmmm09:24
knomealec_, yes it is 11.-- in finland :)09:25
alec_hell yeah09:25
alec_thank you09:25
knomehow come we are lucky bastards?09:25
alec_because its all nice and morning09:25
alec_dont you like morning?09:25
knomehah09:25
knomenope09:25
alec_no?09:25
knomenope09:25
knomei prefer night09:25
alec_fair enough09:25
knomeand evening09:26
alec_well we can trade09:26
sulleye night ftw09:26
knomethe worst thing in the morning is that you have to get up from your bed09:26
sulleyup09:27
knomeand i'm hungry09:27
alec_well, the leaving the bed is the problem, but its also good, because you cant say that its for shit... yet09:27
sulleWhen i get out of bed i start freezing and i just go to bed again. thats how i get l8 for work sometimes :(09:28
knomelol :D09:28
alec_cold in finland i assume09:28
alec_: P09:28
knomeyou get used to it09:29
knomeand i prefer cold over warm09:29
knome:P09:29
alec_i dont09:29
sulleis it cold there now ?09:29
knomeuooh09:29
alec_here?09:29
alec_no, just started cooling off09:29
alec_70 or so09:29
alec_rained the last couplde09:29
alec_couple09:29
sullehere its fall and its not cold, its just raining.09:29
knomeit was a damn hot day on thusrday here09:29
sullei guess the snow is here in 1 moth or so :P09:30
alec_well then its the same. were heading into it. a little rain, the temp dropped then or so in the last week09:30
sullewell see you guys later, i got to take a shower and get me some food.09:31
knomesee you and have a nice day09:31
sulleyou 209:32
alec_and then there were none09:32
knomebah09:33
alec_oh 209:34
alec_so whats your excuse09:34
knomefor what? ;)09:35
alec_i was being phecious.09:35
alec_is that spelled right?09:35
knomeuh... don't think so09:35
alec_neither do i09:36
alec_its not even phoenitically spelled right09:37
alec_and neither is that09:37
knomelol :D09:37
alec_so your in finland09:37
alec_?09:37
knomeyes09:37
alec_never been09:38
alec_though that doesnt say much09:38
knomemany people haven't09:38
alec_i think iwould like to09:38
knomewe have lots of space :P09:38
alec_saw that movie pathfinder when i was a kid, im into it09:38
knomeand depressed people09:38
alec_hahaa09:38
alec_we have that here09:39
alec_trust me09:39
knomein usa?09:39
alec_yes09:39
knomewell i think in finland it's a bit different sort of depression09:39
alec_maybe09:39
alec_who knows09:40
alec_alls i know is we have pleanty09:40
knomeyou know, in winter you have only very little daytime09:40
alec_plenty09:40
alec_oh i know all about it, and in places like alaka (usa) : ) doctors will prescribe uv lights for depression because they have 6 months of dark09:41
alec_alaska09:41
alec_i meant09:41
knomeyeah09:41
knomebut i think you don't live in alaska? ;)09:41
alec_no09:41
alec_new york09:42
alec_but im from california09:42
alec_true but i still dispute the class of depression09:42
knomehe09:42
alec_?09:42
knome= heh ;)09:42
alec_oh09:42
alec_he09:42
knomeso how is it like to live in NY?09:42
alec_:)09:43
knomedo you live far from the "center"?09:43
alec_i live in a neighborhood of brooklyn called williamsburg. just across the river from anhattan09:43
alec_manhattan09:43
alec_so, very close to the"center"09:44
alec_in a neighborhood full of grownup children09:44
knomehmm09:44
alec_sort of like the island of lost toys only less endearing09:45
knomearen't they usually called adults? :P09:45
alec_far less endearing09:45
alec_very clever.09:45
alec_i guess were called adults now?09:46
knomehehe09:46
knomeso how did you end up there?09:46
alec_well09:46
alec_i dont know09:46
knomex)09:46
alec_my best friend from highs school, noelle came here to go to some famous acting school09:47
knomeand so you followed?09:47
alec_and i was back home doing stuff and i decided one day that i was going to go09:47
knomeyayy09:47
knomeso what do you do?09:48
knomestudy? work?09:48
* TheSheep looks towards xubuntu-offtopic09:48
alec_and i called her up about three years after she moved and told her i was going to come visit her09:48
knomeTheSheep, too lazy, we'll stop this is someone needs support ;)09:48
knome*if09:48
TheSheepknome: many peole read the backlog09:48
alec_"and she was like " yay" when and i said tomorrow09:49
knomeTheSheep, oh, this was #xubuntu09:49
alec_so i came on a oneway ticket and thats all09:49
knomenot -devel..09:49
alec_?09:49
knomealec_, let's join #xubuntu-offtopic09:49
alec_ok09:49
looping_hello10:05
knomehello looping_10:05
looping_hi knome.10:06
looping_do you have trouble choosing a desktop? ;)10:06
knomenope? :)10:06
looping_or you're just a killer gnome... haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.10:06
looping_sorry10:06
knomechoose xfce.10:06
knomehah10:06
knomethat was a referral to my nick, i see10:06
knomeit's not a combination of kde and gnome10:07
looping_no problem, I didn't think it was10:07
looping_:)10:07
looping_just kidding.10:07
knomex)10:07
knomei used to be "emunkki", but then it was kind of clashing with "emonkey", a kubuntu guy10:08
knomeso i thought that i'd just change back to this, my "normal" nick10:08
looping_I need help because although XFCE is quite lightweight, my 256MB of RAM have a hard time dealing with all the apps I use. I often get stuck while the computer just... get busy doing stuff I don't know about.10:09
looping_knome, ok10:09
looping_If I remember well, looping_ is my second nickname ever.10:10
knomehave you looked at htop?10:10
looping_I used Beorn for a while, when I started using IRC but then a friend of mine nicknamed me looping, and I have been using it ever since.10:10
knomex)10:11
looping_looping, as in The A Team Murdock character. :p10:11
looping_htop, I know top. is it some variant of it?10:11
knomeyes10:11
knomeso what does top say when xubuntu is freezed?10:11
looping_it usually tells me that damn epiphany-browser is eating all the RAM because it has been running for more than 1 hour.10:12
looping_and this browser has the best light/usability ratio I found10:13
knomedoes it get back to normal if you kill epiphany?10:13
looping_definitely.10:13
knomehave you tried midori?10:14
looping_because of all the Flash junk there is everywhere10:14
looping_midori sounds nice10:14
TheSheepit's not finished10:14
TheSheepthere is also epiphany-webkit10:14
TheSheepbut not finished either10:14
looping_yes, I saw that10:14
looping_that's why I am stuck.10:14
TheSheepwe just have to wait fro google chrome :)10:14
looping_because I am kind of an end-user. incapable of compiling sources10:15
knomelooping_, well compiling is usually easy as picking a candy from a children10:16
looping_knome ok :)10:16
looping_I am not english native, as you might have guesses. Did I use the word compiling correctly?10:16
looping_guessed*10:16
knomeyes10:17
looping_thanks10:18
knomeor actually, compile from sources10:18
knomei'm not a native english speaker either10:18
looping_haha10:18
looping_:)10:18
knomebut the most important thing is that you're understood10:18
looping_knome, where are you from?10:19
knomefinland10:19
knomei'll find something to eat ->10:19
looping_great, I am Swiss and I live in France10:20
looping_I am currently eating cereals10:20
looping_omfg, epiphany has been running for half an hour and is already using 80megs of RAM, god I hate gecko engine...10:29
looping_when I think about the beginning of mozilla. I was the only one using phoenix/firebird or kmeleon in college. they looked pretty neat. and now, look at these pile of junk-code.10:31
looping_when I try and ./configure midori, I get this "pkg-config cannot find webkit-1.0 >= 0.1" but I can't find this package in the repositories...10:33
Myrttihm10:39
nnulli installed tightvncserver via synaptic, anyone tell me where id find the config file to edit?, couldnt find it in /et10:55
nnull-/etc*10:55
jmotahi all10:55
alec_can anyone halp me with a display issue in xubunu10:56
knomelooping_, you need -dev packages10:59
looping_knome, I have them, or maybe I only think I have.11:00
knomethat's possible11:00
knomeanyway, midori 0.0.17 is on the repos11:01
looping_and the last version is 0.2111:01
looping_0.0.2111:02
knomeyes11:02
looping_I have the .deb debian package on my harddrive.11:02
knomeof 0.0.21 ?11:03
looping_I try and install it but Gdebi can't find the package "unique"11:03
looping_yes, 0.0.21 package11:03
sullesee u guys l8tr.11:09
looping_ok, libunique can't be found by the installer11:10
looping_...11:10
knomehmm11:10
nnullhow do i search for files in xubuntu pls11:10
nnulli installed vnc server but i cant find it11:10
looping_I don't understand. it's the same problem either I try and install the debian package or compile from sources11:11
favronnull: the config is a hidden folder in /home/you11:11
looping_and this unique/libunique package is impossible to find11:11
nnullfavro¬ mmk i check11:11
knomelooping_, i'm trying to build midori also11:12
favro!find unique11:13
ubottuFile unique found in Use, of, uninitialized, value, in (and 32 others)11:13
looping_!find libunique11:14
ubottuFile libunique found in Use, of, uninitialized, value, in (and 32 others)11:14
favrodoesn't help much tho11:14
looping_thanks anyway favro11:14
looping_:)11:14
favro:)11:14
looping_je suppose que to es francophone ?11:14
looping_tu*11:14
nnullfavro¬ where abouts i still cant find it!11:15
nnulli also cant find any search for file option11:15
favronnull: here it is .vnc in my home folder - ctrl+h to show hidden files11:15
favroin thunar11:15
favronnull: I use terminal to search for new files - sudo updatedb && locate newfile11:16
knomelooping_, http://live.gnome.org/LibUnique :P11:17
looping_knome, I want a packaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage. :')))11:18
knomeit is a tar.gz package ;)11:18
looping_I will be 100years old before I can install a simple package on this machine...11:19
looping_:p11:19
looping_oh.11:19
looping_great11:19
looping_thanks11:19
knomeyou still need to compile it though :P11:19
* knome is compiling webkit atm11:19
looping_raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah11:20
looping_compiling unique right now11:22
knomeyay for boobies11:23
knomei mean, compiling11:23
looping_http://paste.ubuntu.com/51217/11:24
looping_I am D-O-O-M-E-D...11:24
knomeany other output?11:24
looping_no errors before this point.11:25
knomecan you paste the complete output anyway11:26
looping_http://paste.ubuntu.com/51221/11:28
looping_here you are11:28
looping_with the ./configure output too11:28
knomethanks, let's see11:28
knome/usr/bin/install: cannot create regular file `/usr/local/lib/libunique-1.0.so.0.0.0': Permission denied11:30
looping_wtf, I am in sudo mode11:30
knometry to run sudo make install11:31
looping_oh, I get it. "sudo make && make install" maybe I would have worked with "sudo make && sudo make install"?11:32
looping_I will try what you say though11:32
knomeyes, make doesn't actually need sudo but make install does11:32
looping_as far as I understand the output, it worked but "gdebi midori_xxx" gives me "Dependency is not satisfiable: libunique-1.0-0"11:35
knome>__<11:35
looping_"make[3]: [install-data-local] Erreur 1 (ignorée)" during unique install. why is this error 1 ignored? I don't get it11:39
knomeusually ignoral of error is good :P11:39
knomeotherwise you might end fixing something ;P11:40
looping_daoc? wow?11:41
looping_oops11:41
looping_wrong tab...11:41
looping_:p11:41
knomethou shall be forgiven11:41
knomelol11:41
knomewebkit compiled11:42
knomecompiling midori...11:43
looping_i thinking about resigning and using dillo.11:43
knomecompiled.11:43
looping_:p11:43
looping_or elinks11:43
MyrttiI'm a bit confused why you are compiling it11:45
knomeMyrtti, wants newest11:45
looping_Myrtti, no ubuntu packages for the last version of midori11:45
Myrttinot even in any ppa's?11:46
looping_can you explain ppa ? please11:46
knomepersonal package archive11:46
looping_ok11:47
knomehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/~webkit-team/+archive11:47
knome:P11:47
knomebut it's for intrepid11:47
Myrttihttp://stemp.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/midori-0020-and-webkit-team/11:47
Myrttiknome: there's this little dropdown...11:47
knomelol11:47
knome:P11:47
Myrtti"ooh"11:47
knomeyes11:47
Myrtti"now it's for hardy!"11:48
knomehaha11:48
knomeanyway, i got everything compiled11:48
knomebut midori can't find libs11:48
Myrtti!Midori 0.0.21!11:49
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about midori 0.0.21!11:49
Myrtti"Midori 0.0.21"11:49
Myrttiso which version are you compiling?11:50
knome0.0.2111:50
Myrttimine is midori - 0.0.21-1+git20080914~intrepidppa211:50
Myrttiworks like a charm11:50
Myrttiexcept for those bugs I'm aware of already11:51
knomeaha!11:51
knomeworks11:51
knomeself-built midori 0.0.2111:51
looping_midori 0.0.21-1+git20080914~hardyppa111:52
looping_installing right now11:52
looping_middle-click no longer kills midori. nice. :)11:53
looping_are there any ad killers plugins yet11:55
looping_?11:55
looping_oops.11:55
Myrttiprolly not11:56
looping_clicking on label in gmail kills midori.11:56
Myrttifor fun you can always try what happens if you try to enter a site with self signed ssl certificate11:56
looping_should convince me to change email adress11:56
Myrttiit's not yet properly handled11:57
looping_hey there's flash now.11:59
looping_I want a flash blocker.11:59
looping_:p11:59
Myrttisudo aptitude remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree;sudo aptitude install swfdec-mozilla;12:00
Myrttiworks++; ;-)12:00
looping_thanks Myrtti. I am about to try that12:11
looping_ok, I just installed swfdec and got rid of flash. nonetheless, when right-clicking flash content I still get adobe flash menu...12:18
looping_any idea?12:19
looping_although, midori now uses 20Megs of ram instead of 6012:20
knomelooping_, did you restart midori?12:20
looping_yes12:22
knomedid you purge nonfree?12:22
looping_yes i did12:30
looping_but I am pretty sure the falsh handler changed because of the low usage of ram12:39
knomeomg, having a meeting w/ a client12:53
knome...in IRC12:53
looping_knome, great.12:56
looping_:)12:56
knomehah, it is12:57
knomejust waiting the client to arrive12:57
nnulli want my xubuntu box to be able to be sshable so i can run VNC through a tunnel, anyone know any good tutorials on doing this?13:14
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favro!vnc13:17
ubottuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX13:17
nnullthx favro13:18
nnullim installing this on a low mem system, would i be better off using x11vnc you think?13:20
nnull!lowmem13:20
ubottuFor installing on low memory systems, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems.  See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements.13:20
supershootayo13:28
supershootacan you recommend me a drawing software that offers same functionality than fireworks or photoshop?13:30
Myrttiwould gimp do?13:32
knomegimp is probably the far closest to photoshop13:37
knomeyou might also want to try inkscape13:37
nnullhow come xubuntu runs gnome apps like tranmission etc13:39
supershootannull, just siynaptic it.13:41
Myrttinnull: because most apps in xfce4 use gtk213:41
nnullmk13:41
DaveDixonIIUgh, can someone help me?15:27
Odd-rationaleDaveDixonII: why don't you start by asking your question? :P15:28
knomeno, if you don't tell what the problem is15:28
viddwith what15:28
Odd-rationalelol15:28
knomewe need a bot saying "just ask" or sth :P15:28
DaveDixonIIxUbuntu keeps giving me errors like: space: 65520 wanted 65528 or it frezzes and i have to shut it down.15:29
Odd-rationalehey, vidd, i saw a while back that you were looking for the firmware for b43-fwcutter? have you found it? or still looking?15:29
Steynif($irc->person->ask("help me")) {$irc->bot->say("just ask");{15:29
viddi got it15:29
Steynknome, something like that?15:29
Odd-rationalevidd: ok. great15:29
Odd-rationaleyou can give the !ask factiod...15:29
knomeSteyn, yes15:31
DaveDixonIIHello?15:31
knomeOdd-rationale, well... that still needs user (helper) interaction15:31
DaveDixonIIMy computer could freeze up any minute.  Can someone help me?15:32
knomeOdd-rationale, and many people just will go away and have bad experience if nobody answers their question, and might stop using (x)ubuntu15:32
knomeDaveDixonII, have you checked your memory for errors?15:33
DaveDixonIII have absolutly no clue how to do that15:33
knomeon boot, you get the grub boot loader15:33
knomethere should be an alternative "memtest"15:34
DaveDixonIIOk, what do i do if i have an error?15:34
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DaveDixonIIknome: What do i do if it has an error?15:35
knomehttp://www.memtest86.com/tech.html#trouble15:35
DaveDixonIIHow long does the test take?15:37
knomedepends on the memory size, but it's not fast15:37
knomei must go15:37
DaveDixonIIOk, thanks. :)15:37
Powertrip_Good Day15:58
viddhello Powertrip_15:58
Powertrip_Hows things going today?15:58
viddit goes15:59
Powertrip_I am testing out the new hardy on a virtual machine, liking it so far.16:00
viddnew hardy?16:00
Powertrip_8.04 xubuntu16:00
Powertrip_You run 6.06?16:01
viddi run 8.0416:02
viddbut its not "new" its 5 months old16:02
Powertrip_It's new to me16:03
viddhehe16:03
Powertrip_Only have one resolution though. probably that cursed Microsoft Virtual Machine16:03
viddwhen ya said "new" i figured you might have meant 8.10 that is in testing16:03
Powertrip_I haven't dabbeled with the untested much, to much of a newbie16:04
viddPowertrip_, why not run the live cd to get a "feel" for it?16:05
Powertrip_Well I have 6.06 on it's own PC up home. I use it for playing back my music collection but I mostly wanted to run it ontop of my windows box for chatting and testing out things like apache and vsftp. More for practice then anything, but with this 640 by 480 resolution I can't do much.16:07
Powertrip_My other 2 linux systems are thier own PC's and command line only etch boxes for firewall, dns and dhcp so I don't want to touch them (took me so long to get them working)16:08
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Powertrip_Hey Emma16:48
emmahey there.16:49
emmaHow come Powertrip_ ? :)16:49
viddPowertrip_, sorry...had calls that i had to take here at work....17:03
viddthe wonders of the live cd is you get to use the OS without monkeying up the existing stuff17:04
viddno changes to harddrive, etc17:04
supershootadoes phpeclipse works on xubuntu?17:14
* flyback dies laughign again at the sound of mickey mouse humping on family guy17:18
hansengelHi, I use a WiFi network that has two access points - one is close and with a strong signal; the other is far and has a weak signal. For some reason my adapter keeps selecting the weaker access point.. is there some way to restrict it to only one access point, maybe by ID?19:28
viddhansengel, yes....manually configure the network19:31
hansengelvidd: But I don't see an option for an access point anywhere.19:31
viddor, use wicd instead of nm19:31
vidd?19:31
viddright click on your network icon19:32
hansengelOkay..19:32
viddchoose "edit wireless networks"19:32
viddare both networks listed there?19:33
hansengelNo, that's not what I meant - there are two access points inside one WiFi network19:33
hansengelOne upstairs, one downstairs19:33
hansengelIn 'bssids' both used to be shown.. I already removed the ID of the access point downstairs19:34
hansengelbut it still selects it19:34
viddeach one has a unique name....right?19:34
hansengelWhat do you mean?19:34
viddif you have 2 access points with the same essid, then you cannot easily tell your system which to access19:35
hansengelOkay, that stinks :(19:35
hansengelI've tried using iwconfig, too.. it just switches back eventually19:35
viddcommon sense tells you to give each access point a unique essid19:35
viddnext question....19:36
vidddoes one have security and the other does not?19:36
hansengelBoth have WEP 64bit19:36
viddsame key?19:37
hansengelyes19:37
viddok....do this19:37
viddhold up....19:37
viddhow do these two access points connect to each other?19:37
hansengelThe upstairs one plugs into a Ethernet port in the wall19:37
hansengelSame with the downstairs router, I think19:38
hansengelIf this involves changing anything with the routers, it'll be a while - need to get permission first.19:38
viddwhat kind of idiot set up 2 routers on the same network with the same essid's and the same keys?19:39
hansengeluh, no comment.19:39
hansengel:D19:40
viddeach router needs to have the essid uniqu19:40
viddsomething like "upstairs" and "downstairs" will work fine19:40
hansengelOkay, thanks19:40
JannoTTWhat you do when your cheap noname pci wifi card does not show up in lspci?19:41
viddotherwise, you need to configure your card to preform MAC Address association (happy hunting for howto's there)19:41
hansengelyikes. I think I'll just have the SSIDs changed19:41
viddJannoTT, usb, pcmcia, or pci?19:41
JannoTTpci19:41
viddJannoTT, power down, crack the case, seat the card properly, pray the card didnt get damaged, power back up19:42
vidd=]19:42
JannoTTCard works under windows so that cant be the case :(19:43
viddthen pastebin me the output from lspci19:44
JannoTT!pastebin19:45
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)19:45
Natenjohey gues it there a way to make konqueror to my standard file browser in xubuntu??19:46
Natenjo(sorry im quite new to linux)19:46
JannoTThttp://paste.ubuntu.com/51348/19:46
viddyes19:46
Natenjocan you tell me how ;)??19:47
viddNatenjo, Applications->settings->Settings Manager->Prefered apps19:47
viddsorry....i type slow19:47
viddJannoTT, line 16 is your wifi card19:48
viddRTL-818519:48
JannoTTrofl? realtek? it should be trendnet19:49
viddrealtek makes the CHIP....trendnet makes the CARD19:49
Natenjo@vidd: im there but were can i change the sittings r file borwser i can only see about mai and webbrowser^^19:50
viddNatenjo, try this link (if you are on the xubuntu machine and you have the doc's installed) file:///usr/share/xfce4/doc/C/exo-preferred-applications.html19:52
Natenjothx I'll have a look :)19:52
Natenjosorry vidd i'm not getting quite wise out of that document.. it doesnt mention anything about the file browser (not the internet browser)19:56
viddNatenjo, try the command exo-open FileBrowser konqueror20:10
viddthough....why you would want to use such a bloated app to look at files is beyond me20:11
viddwhat are you doing that auto-launches thunar?20:11
Natenjoyeah maby your right vidd...i thougt i'd use it because it supports samba..and thuner doesnt afaik20:15
viddso....when you want to use samba....call it20:15
viddif you have something that is auto-launching thunar, right-click that item, choose "open with..." select "other application", check the box "set default"[or something simmilar] and choose "your bloated KDE app"20:17
vidd...i mean konkorer20:17
vidd=]20:17
JannoTThahaha bloated20:17
viddJannoTT, your wifi up now?20:19
JannoTTnah. Im too lazy to go through all that ndiswrapper thingy20:20
viddndiswrapper?????20:20
viddwhy not use the native driver?20:21
JannoTTthere is no native driver20:21
Myrttiwhich card was this again?20:21
viddi do believe there is20:21
viddRTL-818520:21
JannoTThttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsTrendnet Say that my model TEW-423PI  has no driver and i gotta use ndiswrapper to get it working.20:24
viddhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/trendnet-tew423i-chip-rtl8185-linux-driver-found-618630/20:25
viddsays it works fine20:25
vidddated march 0820:26
viddthat page hasnt been updated in forever20:27
JannoTTfirefox just crashed :O20:28
JannoTTOh crap. Cant build the module. http://paste.ubuntu.com/51367/20:41
cheeseboycan i use head to read a file until it finds an empty line?21:03
cheeseboyactually how i get part of file inbetween first two /*21:06
cheeseboy?21:06
knomeuhhh...?21:06
knomewhich language are you talking about?21:06
cheeseboyi just want to cat or grep a bunch of files to get eveything inbetween the first two times /* appears in each file21:08
cheeseboyso simple bash script or command21:09
cheeseboyget what i mean knome ?21:10
knomeyes21:11
knomemaybe this isn't the best channel to ask it, though21:11
knomedo you know any scripting?21:11
cheeseboynope21:12
not_myselfAnyone in here know off the top of their head how to make kde apps & settings part of the saved session?21:24
not_myselfkonsole changes to white background every time I re-login, even though Ihave black background & white text for the default.21:24
knomenot_myself, maybe ask #kubuntu21:26
not_myselfI know it's a kde app, but I kinda like using it.21:26
knomeah, sorry21:26
not_myselfI'm running xubuntu :)21:26
knomei think that has something to do with konsole21:26
knomenot saved sessions21:26
knomesessions only save apps which are running21:26
knometry saving your settings in konsole21:27
knomebtw, why use konsole and not xfce4-terminal?21:27
not_myselfno, because I can type konsole, and it's the right color.21:27
not_myselfI just got used to it.21:27
not_myselfI like being able to bring down different shell types.21:28
knomeok, just curious21:28
viddnot_myself, why not set up xfce4-terminal to the same color scheme?21:28
vidd=]21:28
not_myselfok I'll play with it.21:28
viddbut to answer your question....21:29
viddthere should be a file stored somewhere with your settings saved21:29
viddim not sure konsole does that (i never used it so i cant be 100% sure)21:30
not_myselfya it keeps a bunch of files in ~/21:30
not_myself.kde21:30
vidddo you have a .konsole file or folder in your ~/ folder?21:30
vidditems in .kde are not looked at by xubuntu.....21:31
not_myselfok21:31
viddtry copying your konsole file stored in the .kde file to the .config folder21:32
not_myselfThere's an idea.21:36
not_myselfI think I'll get used to running xfce4's terminal21:36
knomexfce4-terminal is ++21:37
not_myselfMy only complaint with it really is just the position of the tabs.21:37
* Myrtti huggles Terminator21:37
knomei used to use gnome-terminal for a while also21:37
Odd-rationalecopying the konsole file to the .config folder probably wont work...21:37
knomeMyrtti, o.O21:37
Myrttiwhut21:37
MyrttiI've translated it21:37
Odd-rationaleMyrtti: that requires gnome-terminal...21:38
Myrttino it doesnt21:38
Odd-rationaleare you sure?21:38
Myrttisince when has it required gnome-terminal?21:38
Myrttiwell, doh. YES?21:38
not_myselfat any rate ... time to program more widgets.21:38
not_myselfIt's probably something simple like $HOME not being set at the right time.21:39
Odd-rationaleMyrtti: must have got that one wrong... looks likt you're right...21:41
MyrttiI've talked to Ng a lot about terminator and how I use it with xfce421:42
viddOdd-rationale, if copying the setup date to config wont store the info....what will?21:42
vidd*data21:42
Odd-rationalevidd: what setup data? konsole's setup data?21:43
viddyes21:43
Myrttiterminator can import settings used by gnome-terminal, but it doesn't depend on them21:43
MyrttiI've got my own config file21:43
Odd-rationalevidd: copy that to ~/.config? I don't think xfce4-terminal can use that...21:43
viddhe wants konsole to use21:43
viddit21:43
viddkonsole in xfce isnt pulling the config from the .kde21:44
viddgggrrrr i hate this keyboard!21:44
knomehah21:45
viddknome, you have any ideas on that?21:49
knomewith konsole settings being saved in a session? no21:50
not_myselfI'm ok, i'll survive :)21:55
not_myselfxfce4-term is good.21:55
not_myselfI'll get used to it.21:56
not_myselfok now I remember why I use konsole.  I can scroll up while text is being printed out, and it doesn't bounce back to the bottom.22:20
not_myselfif a program is spitting text out.22:21
not_myselfvery useful for debugging.22:21
not_myselfI guess ctrl-s will pause the output, but that can be a bad thing if you're dealing with an app like mplayer that will stop playing if it's not printing to stdout ...22:23
TheSheepit's an option in xfce4-terminal22:23
TheSheepand it doesn't scroll on output by default22:23
TheSheepas far as I remember22:23
not_myselfoh ok.22:28
not_myselfThanks.22:28
not_myselfI guess I missed that option.22:28

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