[00:00] <deviant> um
[00:00] <deviant> im having xserver issues
[00:00] <deviant> since installing the latest round of updates
[00:00] <deviant> anyone else having similar?
[00:03] <deviant> no?
[00:03] <Odd-rationale> deviant: what driver?
[00:03] <deviant> if you mean video, just software
[00:04] <deviant> havent installed nvidia-glx
[00:04] <deviant> from what i could see the updates were thunderbird 2.0.0.17 and libc
[00:04] <Odd-rationale> deviant: what kind of issues?
[00:05] <deviant> i just get a blue background with text saying the xserver couldn't start
[00:05] <deviant> and then the text login prompt appears
[00:06] <Odd-rationale> deviant: are you on another machine right now?
[00:06] <deviant> no booted using live cd
[00:06] <Odd-rationale> deviant: what version of ubuntu do you have installed?
[00:06] <deviant> its xubuntu 8.04.1
[00:07] <deviant> im using a lenovo 3000 n200 laptop
[00:07] <deviant> been working absolutely fine until this
[00:07] <Odd-rationale> deviant: can you go to /media/<disk>/etc/X11/xorg.conf and pastebin that file?
[00:07] <deviant> ill try yeah
[00:08] <Odd-rationale> here's the pastebin link:
[00:08] <Odd-rationale> !pastebin
[00:08] <Odd-rationale> deviant: note that is is /media/<disk>/etc/... not just /etc/
[00:13] <deviant> http://paste.ubuntu.com/51094/
[00:14] <Nillerz> !bye | deviant
[00:14] <Nillerz> Huh. I'll be.
[00:15] <Odd-rationale> deviant: have you tried booting into recovery mode and select: Fix broken xorg?
[00:15] <deviant> havent
[00:15] <deviant> how do i do that?
[00:17] <Odd-rationale> deviant: before grub loads, press esc. then choose recover mode for your kernel...
[00:17] <deviant> oh right, ill try it
[00:17] <deviant> thanks !:)
[00:18] <Odd-rationale> deviant: i gtg. ttyl.
[00:31] <Nillerz> Okay I still can't access folders on a windows computer
[00:31] <Nillerz> Any help?
[00:31] <Nillerz> !fusesmb doesn't work
[00:32] <Nillerz> I get connection timeouts
[00:37] <Nillerz> Every time I mount fusesmb and try to access teh directory I get an error stating the connection timed out
[01:43] <test3r> I forgot where the test releases are and would like to boot newest build. How do I find Intrepid Alpha 6???
[01:45] <test3r> wait sry found it
[01:45] <test3r> :)
[02:16] <nnull> im pretty sure it would be but i just wanna double check, its a bad idea to run a encrypted partition on a very low resource pc correct?
[02:30] <zoredache> it probably wouldn't work out to well...
[02:52] <nnull> yea i did last night, runs like a dog
[02:52] <nnull> like a dog i say
[02:53] <nnull> i need him running like horse not like dog, i cant put a saddle on a dog
[02:53] <nnull> or could i....
[03:20] <test3r> nnull >> IMHO: you can when it's running LUNIX core (more so with Debian, even!). Try to do it with Windows, and, you're right, it doesn't work.
[03:38] <Genelyk> o/
[04:48] <[biabia]> anyone do much printing of shell scripts or text files from the shell using lpr or cupsdoprint? i dont like the small thin default font but i cant figure out how to change it
[06:16] <flyback> collapses on the floor crying from the sound of mikey mouse having sex family guy
[06:38] <alec> i just installed xubuntu on an old mac and having some display problems
[06:48] <alec> how do i connect wirlessly using xubuntu, i just installed it
[07:59] <alec_> i need help, new to xubuntu, having display problems
[08:08] <TheSheep> alec_: any details?
[08:26] <alec_> i installed xubuntu feisty ppc, on an old mac g3, the install went fien, except the display is skewed, the left of the screen is blank.
[08:26] <alec_> someone told me to download displayconfig-gtk
[08:26] <alec_> i did this and it made the dislay much worse
[08:27] <alec_> but it seemed to be a suggestion in the right vein.
[08:30] <TheSheep> alec_: you don't download it, it's installed y default
[08:30] <TheSheep> alec_: but I don't know much about power pc versions of xubuntu
[08:31] <TheSheep> alec_: if it's feisty, you can try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and set the right settings for your hardware there
[08:32] <alec_> TheSheep: I dont know anything, i believe that it wasnt installed, but i certainly couldnt be sure. i think i need to somehow set the display settings but im not sure how
[08:32] <TheSheep> alec_: it's possible it wasn't there in feisty yet
[08:33] <TheSheep> alec_: the command I gave you should alolow you to set the display settings
[08:33] <alec_> TheSheep: im new to linux so you will ahve to bare with me
[08:34] <alec_> TheSheep: do you have any suggestions for correcting the display being offset, and the top of the display running the bottom up the top. and i know that this hardly makes any sense
[08:35] <TheSheep> alec_: try openning the terminal and typing 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[08:35] <TheSheep> alec_: then it will ask you for your password and let you configure your x server
[08:36] <alec_> TheSheep: ill try, when i installed displayconfig-gtk, if thats waht i did, i set the screen far less readable that it was. so its super hard to see,
[08:36] <alec_> i was planning on reistalling
[08:38] <alec_> its possible to boot straight to terminal is that correct?
[08:39] <TheSheep> alec_: you can also switch to terminal with alt+ctrl+f1, f2, f3, etc.
[08:40] <alec_> is there a key i can hold down during startup to open to terminal?
[08:41] <alec_> thank you for the help by the way
[08:42] <TheSheep> alec_: you can switch to terminal with already running system, with that alt+ctrl+f1. if you press esc while booting, you should also have a menu where you can select 'recovery mode' or somethng like that
[08:42] <TheSheep> but I'm not sure whther this powerks for ppc
[08:43] <TheSheep> !display
[08:43] <alec_> TheSheep: thanks, im giving it a try
[08:44] <alec_> thank you ubutto
[08:45] <TheSheep> !bot
[08:47] <alec_> i thought so
[08:48] <alec_> im not so familiar with irc etiquite. what does the ! point mean before something?
[08:49] <TheSheep> it's a command for the bot
[08:49] <Myrtti> its a command for the bot
[08:49] <Myrtti> !bot
[08:49] <TheSheep> !botsnack
[08:49] <Myrtti> !opsnack
[08:50] <alec_> irc is a weird and wild place
[08:50] <Myrtti> welcome ;-)
[08:50] <alec_> i feel so small and insignificant
[08:50] <TheSheep> that will pass
[08:51] <alec_> should i listen to this bot?
[08:51] <alec_> because i am
[08:51] <Myrtti> that one, yes
[08:51] <alec_> and a bot is?
[08:52] <Myrtti> a program running on a server handling some tedious repeating tasks
[08:52] <Myrtti> !info supybot
[08:52] <alec_> like my asking how to fix my display problem in xubunty feisty ppc
[08:53] <Myrtti> it knows only data given to it...
[08:54] <alec_> do you know anything more than data given to you? because the bot was wrong
[08:54] <TheSheep> well, that would be me being wrong
[08:55] <Myrtti> bot was wrong? hmmm.
[08:55] <alec_> oh
[08:56] <alec_> hey man, im just glad someone is helping me at 4 in the morning f with my decade old computer
[08:57] <alec_> its one of those its the thought that counts sort of things
[08:57] <Myrtti> its not 4am ;-)
[08:57] <Myrtti> 2008-09-27 10:57:57
[08:58] <alec_> where are you? it is for me
[08:58] <Myrtti> Finland, just woke up
[08:59] <alec_> oh! well, very nice, im in  new york
[08:59] <alec_> and its early
[09:00] <alec_> didnt you guys invent this linux?
[09:00] <TheSheep> no
[09:00] <alec_> well, i told you i didnt know anything
[09:00] <Myrtti> Linus started it, thats all
[09:01] <alec_> so no suggestions for display problems>
[09:01] <TheSheep> and many people before him,  like Stallman, Kerningham and Ritchie, etc.
[09:01] <alec_> ?
[09:01] <TheSheep> alec_: the dpkg-reconfigure thing didn't work?
[09:01] <Myrtti> that sudo dpkg-reconfigure should do it
[09:02] <alec_> well it did something that effected the problem i had, but it didnt fix it
[09:02] <Myrtti> you've uninstalled that gtkdisplayconf thing?
[09:03] <alec_> its hard to describe but the display was all there before but the bottom repeated at the bottom, and the left quarter was blank
[09:03] <alec_> now the screen is half the and smooched against the right side and theres more black
[09:04] <alec_> it seems to me it worked but in the wrong way
[09:04] <alec_> oh no i havent unistalled
[09:05] <alec_> i tried to reverse the command in terminal, but now i can hardly see the screen so who knows what i did
[09:05] <alec_> im like the high maintainance girlfriend arent i?
[09:07] <Myrtti> I wouldn't know :->
[09:08] <alec_> lucky
[09:08] <alec_> you should leave finland and come to NY they love guys over here who have a healthy linux habit
[09:09] <alec_> and im not kidding
[09:09] <alec_> or your not a guy.
[09:09] <alec_> opps
[09:09] <sulle> ftw
[09:09] <Myrtti> exactly ;-)
[09:09] <Myrtti> hi sulle
[09:09] <sulle> hi =)
[09:10] <alec_> oh not a boy. well the same goes for you
[09:10] <sulle> been up all night trying to find out what grub error 22 was and how to fix it. and it was realy easy when i found out.:P. hate beeing a unix noob :(
[09:11] <Myrtti> sulle: we've all been there...
[09:12] <alec_> does anyone who just came know how to fix a xubuntu display problem
[09:12] <alec_> ?
[09:12] <sulle> is it a wide screen?
[09:12] <alec_> sulle: no
[09:12] <alec_> its not displaying properly
[09:13] <alec_> i just installed on an old mac
[09:13] <sulle> how does it look?
[09:13] <sulle> what is the problem?
[09:13] <alec_> hard to describe
[09:14] <sulle> hmm
[09:14] <alec_> i can see part of the display, but the left quarter is blacked out and the top repeats at the bottom.
[09:14] <alec_> i cant describe it
[09:15] <sulle> what mac is it?
[09:15] <alec_> the folks above told me to try configdisplay-gtk and it effected it but not the way i wanted
[09:15] <alec_> an old ibook
[09:15] <alec_> i think a g3
[09:16] <alec_> old
[09:18] <sulle> Well i am a noob so i have no clue how to fix it. but do as i do and google it. Maybe we will find something.
[09:19] <alec_> thanks
[09:19] <alec_> i am very much a noob too
[09:19] <alec_> and i have
[09:19] <sulle> Have you posted the problem on ubuntu forums?
[09:20] <sulle> That might help you out alot.
[09:20] <alec_> ive spent like a week finding the distro and how to install it an so on
[09:20] <alec_> i have, but i am yet to reciecve a response. ill get there, it will jsut take some work
[09:21] <alec_> and it helps that i have the computer im on that runs ubuntu just fine
[09:21] <alec_> so its 11 in finland? lucky bastards
[09:21] <sulle> The shooting?, wasnt it 10 ?
[09:22] <knome> woot?
[09:22] <alec_> not me? you mean someone else?
[09:23] <sulle> what? i am confused.
[09:23] <knome> 11 what? the clock?
[09:23] <alec_> never mond
[09:23] <sulle> hahah
[09:23] <alec_> mind
[09:24] <sulle> oh sorry i am tierd as H*ll.
[09:24] <knome> np
[09:24] <sulle> Well its 10:24 here "norway".
[09:24] <knome> i'm still at bed
[09:24] <alec_> its 4:30 here
[09:24] <sulle> hmmm
[09:25] <knome> alec_, yes it is 11.-- in finland :)
[09:25] <alec_> hell yeah
[09:25] <alec_> thank you
[09:25] <knome> how come we are lucky bastards?
[09:25] <alec_> because its all nice and morning
[09:25] <alec_> dont you like morning?
[09:25] <knome> hah
[09:25] <knome> nope
[09:25] <alec_> no?
[09:25] <knome> nope
[09:25] <knome> i prefer night
[09:25] <alec_> fair enough
[09:26] <knome> and evening
[09:26] <alec_> well we can trade
[09:26] <sulle> ye night ftw
[09:26] <knome> the worst thing in the morning is that you have to get up from your bed
[09:27] <sulle> yup
[09:27] <knome> and i'm hungry
[09:27] <alec_> well, the leaving the bed is the problem, but its also good, because you cant say that its for shit... yet
[09:28] <sulle> When i get out of bed i start freezing and i just go to bed again. thats how i get l8 for work sometimes :(
[09:28] <knome> lol :D
[09:28] <alec_> cold in finland i assume
[09:28] <alec_> : P
[09:29] <knome> you get used to it
[09:29] <knome> and i prefer cold over warm
[09:29] <knome> :P
[09:29] <alec_> i dont
[09:29] <sulle> is it cold there now ?
[09:29] <knome> uooh
[09:29] <alec_> here?
[09:29] <alec_> no, just started cooling off
[09:29] <alec_> 70 or so
[09:29] <alec_> rained the last couplde
[09:29] <alec_> couple
[09:29] <sulle> here its fall and its not cold, its just raining.
[09:29] <knome> it was a damn hot day on thusrday here
[09:30] <sulle> i guess the snow is here in 1 moth or so :P
[09:30] <alec_> well then its the same. were heading into it. a little rain, the temp dropped then or so in the last week
[09:31] <sulle> well see you guys later, i got to take a shower and get me some food.
[09:31] <knome> see you and have a nice day
[09:32] <sulle> you 2
[09:32] <alec_> and then there were none
[09:33] <knome> bah
[09:34] <alec_> oh 2
[09:34] <alec_> so whats your excuse
[09:35] <knome> for what? ;)
[09:35] <alec_> i was being phecious.
[09:35] <alec_> is that spelled right?
[09:35] <knome> uh... don't think so
[09:36] <alec_> neither do i
[09:37] <alec_> its not even phoenitically spelled right
[09:37] <alec_> and neither is that
[09:37] <knome> lol :D
[09:37] <alec_> so your in finland
[09:37] <alec_> ?
[09:37] <knome> yes
[09:38] <alec_> never been
[09:38] <alec_> though that doesnt say much
[09:38] <knome> many people haven't
[09:38] <alec_> i think iwould like to
[09:38] <knome> we have lots of space :P
[09:38] <alec_> saw that movie pathfinder when i was a kid, im into it
[09:38] <knome> and depressed people
[09:38] <alec_> hahaa
[09:39] <alec_> we have that here
[09:39] <alec_> trust me
[09:39] <knome> in usa?
[09:39] <alec_> yes
[09:39] <knome> well i think in finland it's a bit different sort of depression
[09:39] <alec_> maybe
[09:40] <alec_> who knows
[09:40] <alec_> alls i know is we have pleanty
[09:40] <knome> you know, in winter you have only very little daytime
[09:40] <alec_> plenty
[09:41] <alec_> oh i know all about it, and in places like alaka (usa) : ) doctors will prescribe uv lights for depression because they have 6 months of dark
[09:41] <alec_> alaska
[09:41] <alec_> i meant
[09:41] <knome> yeah
[09:41] <knome> but i think you don't live in alaska? ;)
[09:41] <alec_> no
[09:42] <alec_> new york
[09:42] <alec_> but im from california
[09:42] <alec_> true but i still dispute the class of depression
[09:42] <knome> he
[09:42] <alec_> ?
[09:42] <knome> = heh ;)
[09:42] <alec_> oh
[09:42] <alec_> he
[09:42] <knome> so how is it like to live in NY?
[09:43] <alec_> :)
[09:43] <knome> do you live far from the "center"?
[09:43] <alec_> i live in a neighborhood of brooklyn called williamsburg. just across the river from anhattan
[09:43] <alec_> manhattan
[09:44] <alec_> so, very close to the"center"
[09:44] <alec_> in a neighborhood full of grownup children
[09:44] <knome> hmm
[09:45] <alec_> sort of like the island of lost toys only less endearing
[09:45] <knome> aren't they usually called adults? :P
[09:45] <alec_> far less endearing
[09:45] <alec_> very clever.
[09:46] <alec_> i guess were called adults now?
[09:46] <knome> hehe
[09:46] <knome> so how did you end up there?
[09:46] <alec_> well
[09:46] <alec_> i dont know
[09:46] <knome> x)
[09:47] <alec_> my best friend from highs school, noelle came here to go to some famous acting school
[09:47] <knome> and so you followed?
[09:47] <alec_> and i was back home doing stuff and i decided one day that i was going to go
[09:47] <knome> yayy
[09:48] <knome> so what do you do?
[09:48] <knome> study? work?
[09:48]  * TheSheep looks towards xubuntu-offtopic
[09:48] <alec_> and i called her up about three years after she moved and told her i was going to come visit her
[09:48] <knome> TheSheep, too lazy, we'll stop this is someone needs support ;)
[09:48] <knome> *if
[09:48] <TheSheep> knome: many peole read the backlog
[09:49] <alec_> "and she was like " yay" when and i said tomorrow
[09:49] <knome> TheSheep, oh, this was #xubuntu
[09:49] <alec_> so i came on a oneway ticket and thats all
[09:49] <knome> not -devel..
[09:49] <alec_> ?
[09:49] <knome> alec_, let's join #xubuntu-offtopic
[09:49] <alec_> ok
[10:05] <looping_> hello
[10:05] <knome> hello looping_
[10:06] <looping_> hi knome.
[10:06] <looping_> do you have trouble choosing a desktop? ;)
[10:06] <knome> nope? :)
[10:06] <looping_> or you're just a killer gnome... haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
[10:06] <looping_> sorry
[10:06] <knome> choose xfce.
[10:06] <knome> hah
[10:06] <knome> that was a referral to my nick, i see
[10:07] <knome> it's not a combination of kde and gnome
[10:07] <looping_> no problem, I didn't think it was
[10:07] <looping_> :)
[10:07] <looping_> just kidding.
[10:07] <knome> x)
[10:08] <knome> i used to be "emunkki", but then it was kind of clashing with "emonkey", a kubuntu guy
[10:08] <knome> so i thought that i'd just change back to this, my "normal" nick
[10:09] <looping_> I need help because although XFCE is quite lightweight, my 256MB of RAM have a hard time dealing with all the apps I use. I often get stuck while the computer just... get busy doing stuff I don't know about.
[10:09] <looping_> knome, ok
[10:10] <looping_> If I remember well, looping_ is my second nickname ever.
[10:10] <knome> have you looked at htop?
[10:10] <looping_> I used Beorn for a while, when I started using IRC but then a friend of mine nicknamed me looping, and I have been using it ever since.
[10:11] <knome> x)
[10:11] <looping_> looping, as in The A Team Murdock character. :p
[10:11] <looping_> htop, I know top. is it some variant of it?
[10:11] <knome> yes
[10:11] <knome> so what does top say when xubuntu is freezed?
[10:12] <looping_> it usually tells me that damn epiphany-browser is eating all the RAM because it has been running for more than 1 hour.
[10:13] <looping_> and this browser has the best light/usability ratio I found
[10:13] <knome> does it get back to normal if you kill epiphany?
[10:13] <looping_> definitely.
[10:14] <knome> have you tried midori?
[10:14] <looping_> because of all the Flash junk there is everywhere
[10:14] <looping_> midori sounds nice
[10:14] <TheSheep> it's not finished
[10:14] <TheSheep> there is also epiphany-webkit
[10:14] <TheSheep> but not finished either
[10:14] <looping_> yes, I saw that
[10:14] <looping_> that's why I am stuck.
[10:14] <TheSheep> we just have to wait fro google chrome :)
[10:15] <looping_> because I am kind of an end-user. incapable of compiling sources
[10:16] <knome> looping_, well compiling is usually easy as picking a candy from a children
[10:16] <looping_> knome ok :)
[10:16] <looping_> I am not english native, as you might have guesses. Did I use the word compiling correctly?
[10:16] <looping_> guessed*
[10:17] <knome> yes
[10:18] <looping_> thanks
[10:18] <knome> or actually, compile from sources
[10:18] <knome> i'm not a native english speaker either
[10:18] <looping_> haha
[10:18] <looping_> :)
[10:18] <knome> but the most important thing is that you're understood
[10:19] <looping_> knome, where are you from?
[10:19] <knome> finland
[10:19] <knome> i'll find something to eat ->
[10:20] <looping_> great, I am Swiss and I live in France
[10:20] <looping_> I am currently eating cereals
[10:29] <looping_> omfg, epiphany has been running for half an hour and is already using 80megs of RAM, god I hate gecko engine...
[10:31] <looping_> when I think about the beginning of mozilla. I was the only one using phoenix/firebird or kmeleon in college. they looked pretty neat. and now, look at these pile of junk-code.
[10:33] <looping_> when I try and ./configure midori, I get this "pkg-config cannot find webkit-1.0 >= 0.1" but I can't find this package in the repositories...
[10:39] <Myrtti> hm
[10:55] <nnull> i installed tightvncserver via synaptic, anyone tell me where id find the config file to edit?, couldnt find it in /et
[10:55] <nnull> -/etc*
[10:55] <jmota> hi all
[10:56] <alec_> can anyone halp me with a display issue in xubunu
[10:59] <knome> looping_, you need -dev packages
[11:00] <looping_> knome, I have them, or maybe I only think I have.
[11:00] <knome> that's possible
[11:01] <knome> anyway, midori 0.0.17 is on the repos
[11:01] <looping_> and the last version is 0.21
[11:02] <looping_> 0.0.21
[11:02] <knome> yes
[11:02] <looping_> I have the .deb debian package on my harddrive.
[11:03] <knome> of 0.0.21 ?
[11:03] <looping_> I try and install it but Gdebi can't find the package "unique"
[11:03] <looping_> yes, 0.0.21 package
[11:09] <sulle> see u guys l8tr.
[11:10] <looping_> ok, libunique can't be found by the installer
[11:10] <looping_> ...
[11:10] <knome> hmm
[11:10] <nnull> how do i search for files in xubuntu pls
[11:10] <nnull> i installed vnc server but i cant find it
[11:11] <looping_> I don't understand. it's the same problem either I try and install the debian package or compile from sources
[11:11] <favro> nnull: the config is a hidden folder in /home/you
[11:11] <looping_> and this unique/libunique package is impossible to find
[11:11] <nnull> favro¬ mmk i check
[11:12] <knome> looping_, i'm trying to build midori also
[11:13] <favro> !find unique
[11:14] <looping_> !find libunique
[11:14] <favro> doesn't help much tho
[11:14] <looping_> thanks anyway favro
[11:14] <looping_> :)
[11:14] <favro> :)
[11:14] <looping_> je suppose que to es francophone ?
[11:14] <looping_> tu*
[11:15] <nnull> favro¬ where abouts i still cant find it!
[11:15] <nnull> i also cant find any search for file option
[11:15] <favro> nnull: here it is .vnc in my home folder - ctrl+h to show hidden files
[11:15] <favro> in thunar
[11:16] <favro> nnull: I use terminal to search for new files - sudo updatedb && locate newfile
[11:17] <knome> looping_, http://live.gnome.org/LibUnique :P
[11:18] <looping_> knome, I want a packaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage. :')))
[11:18] <knome> it is a tar.gz package ;)
[11:19] <looping_> I will be 100years old before I can install a simple package on this machine...
[11:19] <looping_> :p
[11:19] <looping_> oh.
[11:19] <looping_> great
[11:19] <looping_> thanks
[11:19] <knome> you still need to compile it though :P
[11:19]  * knome is compiling webkit atm
[11:20] <looping_> raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
[11:22] <looping_> compiling unique right now
[11:23] <knome> yay for boobies
[11:23] <knome> i mean, compiling
[11:24] <looping_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/51217/
[11:24] <looping_> I am D-O-O-M-E-D...
[11:24] <knome> any other output?
[11:25] <looping_> no errors before this point.
[11:26] <knome> can you paste the complete output anyway
[11:28] <looping_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/51221/
[11:28] <looping_> here you are
[11:28] <looping_> with the ./configure output too
[11:28] <knome> thanks, let's see
[11:30] <knome> /usr/bin/install: cannot create regular file `/usr/local/lib/libunique-1.0.so.0.0.0': Permission denied
[11:30] <looping_> wtf, I am in sudo mode
[11:31] <knome> try to run sudo make install
[11:32] <looping_> oh, I get it. "sudo make && make install" maybe I would have worked with "sudo make && sudo make install"?
[11:32] <looping_> I will try what you say though
[11:32] <knome> yes, make doesn't actually need sudo but make install does
[11:35] <looping_> as far as I understand the output, it worked but "gdebi midori_xxx" gives me "Dependency is not satisfiable: libunique-1.0-0"
[11:35] <knome> >__<
[11:39] <looping_> "make[3]: [install-data-local] Erreur 1 (ignorée)" during unique install. why is this error 1 ignored? I don't get it
[11:39] <knome> usually ignoral of error is good :P
[11:40] <knome> otherwise you might end fixing something ;P
[11:41] <looping_> daoc? wow?
[11:41] <looping_> oops
[11:41] <looping_> wrong tab...
[11:41] <looping_> :p
[11:41] <knome> thou shall be forgiven
[11:41] <knome> lol
[11:42] <knome> webkit compiled
[11:43] <knome> compiling midori...
[11:43] <looping_> i thinking about resigning and using dillo.
[11:43] <knome> compiled.
[11:43] <looping_> :p
[11:43] <looping_> or elinks
[11:45] <Myrtti> I'm a bit confused why you are compiling it
[11:45] <knome> Myrtti, wants newest
[11:45] <looping_> Myrtti, no ubuntu packages for the last version of midori
[11:46] <Myrtti> not even in any ppa's?
[11:46] <looping_> can you explain ppa ? please
[11:46] <knome> personal package archive
[11:47] <looping_> ok
[11:47] <knome> https://bugs.launchpad.net/~webkit-team/+archive
[11:47] <knome> :P
[11:47] <knome> but it's for intrepid
[11:47] <Myrtti> http://stemp.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/midori-0020-and-webkit-team/
[11:47] <Myrtti> knome: there's this little dropdown...
[11:47] <knome> lol
[11:47] <knome> :P
[11:47] <Myrtti> "ooh"
[11:47] <knome> yes
[11:48] <Myrtti> "now it's for hardy!"
[11:48] <knome> haha
[11:48] <knome> anyway, i got everything compiled
[11:48] <knome> but midori can't find libs
[11:49] <Myrtti> !Midori 0.0.21!
[11:49] <Myrtti> "Midori 0.0.21"
[11:50] <Myrtti> so which version are you compiling?
[11:50] <knome> 0.0.21
[11:50] <Myrtti> mine is midori - 0.0.21-1+git20080914~intrepidppa2
[11:50] <Myrtti> works like a charm
[11:51] <Myrtti> except for those bugs I'm aware of already
[11:51] <knome> aha!
[11:51] <knome> works
[11:51] <knome> self-built midori 0.0.21
[11:52] <looping_> midori 0.0.21-1+git20080914~hardyppa1
[11:52] <looping_> installing right now
[11:53] <looping_> middle-click no longer kills midori. nice. :)
[11:55] <looping_> are there any ad killers plugins yet
[11:55] <looping_> ?
[11:55] <looping_> oops.
[11:56] <Myrtti> prolly not
[11:56] <looping_> clicking on label in gmail kills midori.
[11:56] <Myrtti> for fun you can always try what happens if you try to enter a site with self signed ssl certificate
[11:56] <looping_> should convince me to change email adress
[11:57] <Myrtti> it's not yet properly handled
[11:59] <looping_> hey there's flash now.
[11:59] <looping_> I want a flash blocker.
[11:59] <looping_> :p
[12:00] <Myrtti> sudo aptitude remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree;sudo aptitude install swfdec-mozilla;
[12:00] <Myrtti> works++; ;-)
[12:11] <looping_> thanks Myrtti. I am about to try that
[12:18] <looping_> ok, I just installed swfdec and got rid of flash. nonetheless, when right-clicking flash content I still get adobe flash menu...
[12:19] <looping_> any idea?
[12:20] <looping_> although, midori now uses 20Megs of ram instead of 60
[12:20] <knome> looping_, did you restart midori?
[12:22] <looping_> yes
[12:22] <knome> did you purge nonfree?
[12:30] <looping_> yes i did
[12:39] <looping_> but I am pretty sure the falsh handler changed because of the low usage of ram
[12:53] <knome> omg, having a meeting w/ a client
[12:53] <knome> ...in IRC
[12:56] <looping_> knome, great.
[12:56] <looping_> :)
[12:57] <knome> hah, it is
[12:57] <knome> just waiting the client to arrive
[13:14] <nnull> i want my xubuntu box to be able to be sshable so i can run VNC through a tunnel, anyone know any good tutorials on doing this?
[13:17] <favro> !vnc
[13:18] <nnull> thx favro
[13:20] <nnull> im installing this on a low mem system, would i be better off using x11vnc you think?
[13:20] <nnull> !lowmem
[13:28] <supershoota> yo
[13:30] <supershoota> can you recommend me a drawing software that offers same functionality than fireworks or photoshop?
[13:32] <Myrtti> would gimp do?
[13:37] <knome> gimp is probably the far closest to photoshop
[13:37] <knome> you might also want to try inkscape
[13:39] <nnull> how come xubuntu runs gnome apps like tranmission etc
[13:41] <supershoota> nnull, just siynaptic it.
[13:41] <Myrtti> nnull: because most apps in xfce4 use gtk2
[13:41] <nnull> mk
[15:27] <DaveDixonII> Ugh, can someone help me?
[15:28] <Odd-rationale> DaveDixonII: why don't you start by asking your question? :P
[15:28] <knome> no, if you don't tell what the problem is
[15:28] <vidd> with what
[15:28] <Odd-rationale> lol
[15:28] <knome> we need a bot saying "just ask" or sth :P
[15:29] <DaveDixonII> xUbuntu keeps giving me errors like: space: 65520 wanted 65528 or it frezzes and i have to shut it down.
[15:29] <Odd-rationale> hey, vidd, i saw a while back that you were looking for the firmware for b43-fwcutter? have you found it? or still looking?
[15:29] <Steyn> if($irc->person->ask("help me")) {$irc->bot->say("just ask");{
[15:29] <vidd> i got it
[15:29] <Steyn> knome, something like that?
[15:29] <Odd-rationale> vidd: ok. great
[15:29] <Odd-rationale> you can give the !ask factiod...
[15:31] <knome> Steyn, yes
[15:31] <DaveDixonII> Hello?
[15:31] <knome> Odd-rationale, well... that still needs user (helper) interaction
[15:32] <DaveDixonII> My computer could freeze up any minute.  Can someone help me?
[15:32] <knome> Odd-rationale, and many people just will go away and have bad experience if nobody answers their question, and might stop using (x)ubuntu
[15:33] <knome> DaveDixonII, have you checked your memory for errors?
[15:33] <DaveDixonII> I have absolutly no clue how to do that
[15:33] <knome> on boot, you get the grub boot loader
[15:34] <knome> there should be an alternative "memtest"
[15:34] <DaveDixonII> Ok, what do i do if i have an error?
[15:35] <DaveDixonII> knome: What do i do if it has an error?
[15:35] <knome> http://www.memtest86.com/tech.html#trouble
[15:37] <DaveDixonII> How long does the test take?
[15:37] <knome> depends on the memory size, but it's not fast
[15:37] <knome> i must go
[15:37] <DaveDixonII> Ok, thanks. :)
[15:58] <Powertrip_> Good Day
[15:58] <vidd> hello Powertrip_
[15:58] <Powertrip_> Hows things going today?
[15:59] <vidd> it goes
[16:00] <Powertrip_> I am testing out the new hardy on a virtual machine, liking it so far.
[16:00] <vidd> new hardy?
[16:00] <Powertrip_> 8.04 xubuntu
[16:01] <Powertrip_> You run 6.06?
[16:02] <vidd> i run 8.04
[16:02] <vidd> but its not "new" its 5 months old
[16:03] <Powertrip_> It's new to me
[16:03] <vidd> hehe
[16:03] <Powertrip_> Only have one resolution though. probably that cursed Microsoft Virtual Machine
[16:03] <vidd> when ya said "new" i figured you might have meant 8.10 that is in testing
[16:04] <Powertrip_> I haven't dabbeled with the untested much, to much of a newbie
[16:05] <vidd> Powertrip_, why not run the live cd to get a "feel" for it?
[16:07] <Powertrip_> Well I have 6.06 on it's own PC up home. I use it for playing back my music collection but I mostly wanted to run it ontop of my windows box for chatting and testing out things like apache and vsftp. More for practice then anything, but with this 640 by 480 resolution I can't do much.
[16:08] <Powertrip_> My other 2 linux systems are thier own PC's and command line only etch boxes for firewall, dns and dhcp so I don't want to touch them (took me so long to get them working)
[16:48] <Powertrip_> Hey Emma
[16:49] <emma> hey there.
[16:49] <emma> How come Powertrip_ ? :)
[17:03] <vidd> Powertrip_, sorry...had calls that i had to take here at work....
[17:04] <vidd> the wonders of the live cd is you get to use the OS without monkeying up the existing stuff
[17:04] <vidd> no changes to harddrive, etc
[17:14] <supershoota> does phpeclipse works on xubuntu?
[17:18]  * flyback dies laughign again at the sound of mickey mouse humping on family guy
[19:28] <hansengel> Hi, I use a WiFi network that has two access points - one is close and with a strong signal; the other is far and has a weak signal. For some reason my adapter keeps selecting the weaker access point.. is there some way to restrict it to only one access point, maybe by ID?
[19:31] <vidd> hansengel, yes....manually configure the network
[19:31] <hansengel> vidd: But I don't see an option for an access point anywhere.
[19:31] <vidd> or, use wicd instead of nm
[19:31] <vidd> ?
[19:32] <vidd> right click on your network icon
[19:32] <hansengel> Okay..
[19:32] <vidd> choose "edit wireless networks"
[19:33] <vidd> are both networks listed there?
[19:33] <hansengel> No, that's not what I meant - there are two access points inside one WiFi network
[19:33] <hansengel> One upstairs, one downstairs
[19:34] <hansengel> In 'bssids' both used to be shown.. I already removed the ID of the access point downstairs
[19:34] <hansengel> but it still selects it
[19:34] <vidd> each one has a unique name....right?
[19:34] <hansengel> What do you mean?
[19:35] <vidd> if you have 2 access points with the same essid, then you cannot easily tell your system which to access
[19:35] <hansengel> Okay, that stinks :(
[19:35] <hansengel> I've tried using iwconfig, too.. it just switches back eventually
[19:35] <vidd> common sense tells you to give each access point a unique essid
[19:36] <vidd> next question....
[19:36] <vidd> does one have security and the other does not?
[19:36] <hansengel> Both have WEP 64bit
[19:37] <vidd> same key?
[19:37] <hansengel> yes
[19:37] <vidd> ok....do this
[19:37] <vidd> hold up....
[19:37] <vidd> how do these two access points connect to each other?
[19:37] <hansengel> The upstairs one plugs into a Ethernet port in the wall
[19:38] <hansengel> Same with the downstairs router, I think
[19:38] <hansengel> If this involves changing anything with the routers, it'll be a while - need to get permission first.
[19:39] <vidd> what kind of idiot set up 2 routers on the same network with the same essid's and the same keys?
[19:39] <hansengel> uh, no comment.
[19:40] <hansengel> :D
[19:40] <vidd> each router needs to have the essid uniqu
[19:40] <vidd> something like "upstairs" and "downstairs" will work fine
[19:40] <hansengel> Okay, thanks
[19:41] <JannoTT> What you do when your cheap noname pci wifi card does not show up in lspci?
[19:41] <vidd> otherwise, you need to configure your card to preform MAC Address association (happy hunting for howto's there)
[19:41] <hansengel> yikes. I think I'll just have the SSIDs changed
[19:41] <vidd> JannoTT, usb, pcmcia, or pci?
[19:41] <JannoTT> pci
[19:42] <vidd> JannoTT, power down, crack the case, seat the card properly, pray the card didnt get damaged, power back up
[19:42] <vidd> =]
[19:43] <JannoTT> Card works under windows so that cant be the case :(
[19:44] <vidd> then pastebin me the output from lspci
[19:45] <JannoTT> !pastebin
[19:46] <Natenjo> hey gues it there a way to make konqueror to my standard file browser in xubuntu??
[19:46] <Natenjo> (sorry im quite new to linux)
[19:46] <JannoTT> http://paste.ubuntu.com/51348/
[19:46] <vidd> yes
[19:47] <Natenjo> can you tell me how ;)??
[19:47] <vidd> Natenjo, Applications->settings->Settings Manager->Prefered apps
[19:47] <vidd> sorry....i type slow
[19:48] <vidd> JannoTT, line 16 is your wifi card
[19:48] <vidd> RTL-8185
[19:49] <JannoTT> rofl? realtek? it should be trendnet
[19:49] <vidd> realtek makes the CHIP....trendnet makes the CARD
[19:50] <Natenjo> @vidd: im there but were can i change the sittings r file borwser i can only see about mai and webbrowser^^
[19:52] <vidd> Natenjo, try this link (if you are on the xubuntu machine and you have the doc's installed) file:///usr/share/xfce4/doc/C/exo-preferred-applications.html
[19:52] <Natenjo> thx I'll have a look :)
[19:56] <Natenjo> sorry vidd i'm not getting quite wise out of that document.. it doesnt mention anything about the file browser (not the internet browser)
[20:10] <vidd> Natenjo, try the command exo-open FileBrowser konqueror
[20:11] <vidd> though....why you would want to use such a bloated app to look at files is beyond me
[20:11] <vidd> what are you doing that auto-launches thunar?
[20:15] <Natenjo> yeah maby your right vidd...i thougt i'd use it because it supports samba..and thuner doesnt afaik
[20:15] <vidd> so....when you want to use samba....call it
[20:17] <vidd> if you have something that is auto-launching thunar, right-click that item, choose "open with..." select "other application", check the box "set default"[or something simmilar] and choose "your bloated KDE app"
[20:17] <vidd> ...i mean konkorer
[20:17] <vidd> =]
[20:17] <JannoTT> hahaha bloated
[20:19] <vidd> JannoTT, your wifi up now?
[20:20] <JannoTT> nah. Im too lazy to go through all that ndiswrapper thingy
[20:20] <vidd> ndiswrapper?????
[20:21] <vidd> why not use the native driver?
[20:21] <JannoTT> there is no native driver
[20:21] <Myrtti> which card was this again?
[20:21] <vidd> i do believe there is
[20:21] <vidd> RTL-8185
[20:24] <JannoTT> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsTrendnet Say that my model TEW-423PI  has no driver and i gotta use ndiswrapper to get it working.
[20:25] <vidd> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/trendnet-tew423i-chip-rtl8185-linux-driver-found-618630/
[20:25] <vidd> says it works fine
[20:26] <vidd> dated march 08
[20:27] <vidd> that page hasnt been updated in forever
[20:28] <JannoTT> firefox just crashed :O
[20:41] <JannoTT> Oh crap. Cant build the module. http://paste.ubuntu.com/51367/
[21:03] <cheeseboy> can i use head to read a file until it finds an empty line?
[21:06] <cheeseboy> actually how i get part of file inbetween first two /*
[21:06] <cheeseboy> ?
[21:06] <knome> uhhh...?
[21:06] <knome> which language are you talking about?
[21:08] <cheeseboy> i just want to cat or grep a bunch of files to get eveything inbetween the first two times /* appears in each file
[21:09] <cheeseboy> so simple bash script or command
[21:10] <cheeseboy> get what i mean knome ?
[21:11] <knome> yes
[21:11] <knome> maybe this isn't the best channel to ask it, though
[21:11] <knome> do you know any scripting?
[21:12] <cheeseboy> nope
[21:24] <not_myself> Anyone in here know off the top of their head how to make kde apps & settings part of the saved session?
[21:24] <not_myself> konsole changes to white background every time I re-login, even though Ihave black background & white text for the default.
[21:26] <knome> not_myself, maybe ask #kubuntu
[21:26] <not_myself> I know it's a kde app, but I kinda like using it.
[21:26] <knome> ah, sorry
[21:26] <not_myself> I'm running xubuntu :)
[21:26] <knome> i think that has something to do with konsole
[21:26] <knome> not saved sessions
[21:26] <knome> sessions only save apps which are running
[21:27] <knome> try saving your settings in konsole
[21:27] <knome> btw, why use konsole and not xfce4-terminal?
[21:27] <not_myself> no, because I can type konsole, and it's the right color.
[21:27] <not_myself> I just got used to it.
[21:28] <not_myself> I like being able to bring down different shell types.
[21:28] <knome> ok, just curious
[21:28] <vidd> not_myself, why not set up xfce4-terminal to the same color scheme?
[21:28] <vidd> =]
[21:28] <not_myself> ok I'll play with it.
[21:29] <vidd> but to answer your question....
[21:29] <vidd> there should be a file stored somewhere with your settings saved
[21:30] <vidd> im not sure konsole does that (i never used it so i cant be 100% sure)
[21:30] <not_myself> ya it keeps a bunch of files in ~/
[21:30] <not_myself> .kde
[21:30] <vidd> do you have a .konsole file or folder in your ~/ folder?
[21:31] <vidd> items in .kde are not looked at by xubuntu.....
[21:31] <not_myself> ok
[21:32] <vidd> try copying your konsole file stored in the .kde file to the .config folder
[21:36] <not_myself> There's an idea.
[21:36] <not_myself> I think I'll get used to running xfce4's terminal
[21:37] <knome> xfce4-terminal is ++
[21:37] <not_myself> My only complaint with it really is just the position of the tabs.
[21:37]  * Myrtti huggles Terminator
[21:37] <knome> i used to use gnome-terminal for a while also
[21:37] <Odd-rationale> copying the konsole file to the .config folder probably wont work...
[21:37] <knome> Myrtti, o.O
[21:37] <Myrtti> whut
[21:37] <Myrtti> I've translated it
[21:38] <Odd-rationale> Myrtti: that requires gnome-terminal...
[21:38] <Myrtti> no it doesnt
[21:38] <Odd-rationale> are you sure?
[21:38] <Myrtti> since when has it required gnome-terminal?
[21:38] <Myrtti> well, doh. YES?
[21:38] <not_myself> at any rate ... time to program more widgets.
[21:39] <not_myself> It's probably something simple like $HOME not being set at the right time.
[21:41] <Odd-rationale> Myrtti: must have got that one wrong... looks likt you're right...
[21:42] <Myrtti> I've talked to Ng a lot about terminator and how I use it with xfce4
[21:42] <vidd> Odd-rationale, if copying the setup date to config wont store the info....what will?
[21:42] <vidd> *data
[21:43] <Odd-rationale> vidd: what setup data? konsole's setup data?
[21:43] <vidd> yes
[21:43] <Myrtti> terminator can import settings used by gnome-terminal, but it doesn't depend on them
[21:43] <Myrtti> I've got my own config file
[21:43] <Odd-rationale> vidd: copy that to ~/.config? I don't think xfce4-terminal can use that...
[21:43] <vidd> he wants konsole to use
[21:43] <vidd> it
[21:44] <vidd> konsole in xfce isnt pulling the config from the .kde
[21:44] <vidd> gggrrrr i hate this keyboard!
[21:45] <knome> hah
[21:49] <vidd> knome, you have any ideas on that?
[21:50] <knome> with konsole settings being saved in a session? no
[21:55] <not_myself> I'm ok, i'll survive :)
[21:55] <not_myself> xfce4-term is good.
[21:56] <not_myself> I'll get used to it.
[22:20] <not_myself> ok now I remember why I use konsole.  I can scroll up while text is being printed out, and it doesn't bounce back to the bottom.
[22:21] <not_myself> if a program is spitting text out.
[22:21] <not_myself> very useful for debugging.
[22:23] <not_myself> I guess ctrl-s will pause the output, but that can be a bad thing if you're dealing with an app like mplayer that will stop playing if it's not printing to stdout ...
[22:23] <TheSheep> it's an option in xfce4-terminal
[22:23] <TheSheep> and it doesn't scroll on output by default
[22:23] <TheSheep> as far as I remember
[22:28] <not_myself> oh ok.
[22:28] <not_myself> Thanks.
[22:28] <not_myself> I guess I missed that option.