| cjwatson | pochu: I've rejected meta-gnome2 at your request | 00:27 |
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| pochu | cjwatson: thanks | 00:31 |
| pochu | cjwatson: reuploaded, in case you can approve it | 00:32 |
| * pochu waves good night | 00:32 | |
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| cjwatson | pochu: approved - in future you probably should credit changes you make to yourself rather than listing them under somebody else's changes though! | 00:37 |
| pochu | cjwatson: they are not my changes, I noticed Pedro had added a new debdiff just after uploading the previous one | 00:38 |
| pochu | but it's Pedro's debdiff without any change | 00:38 |
| pochu | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-gnome2/+bug/273015 ftr | 00:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 273015 in meta-gnome2 "cannot install gnome & gnome-office packages" [High,Fix released] | 00:39 |
| cjwatson | pochu: ok | 00:47 |
| sistpoty | hi, can any archive-admin please reject my upload of gnome-iconedit? (my mirror is outdated, and I've only found out right now that it was removed a few hours ago :() | 01:41 |
| wgrant | Hmm, the new default background reminds of Hoary, I think. | 01:56 |
| slangasek | pochu: I'm thinking that the alternative is still the right way to do it, and that python-wxgtk2.8 has a separate bug, so I would argue for fixing both to use alternatives right | 02:00 |
| emgent | gmoin | 05:39 |
| calc | yipee OOo 3.0 rc2 finally finished building | 05:43 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: why doesn't hte web UI allow you to reject packages? | 05:47 |
| Hobbsee | oh, lack of u-a. right | 05:47 |
| * Hobbsee rejects gnome-iconedit | 05:48 | |
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| fargiolas | geser: I opened that bug (libselinux) we were talking about yesterday -> LP #275082 | 08:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 275082 in libselinux "no debug symbols package in intrepid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/275082 | 08:57 |
| emgent | tseliot: o/ | 09:13 |
| tseliot | emgent: hi | 09:14 |
| fargiolas | geser: thanks | 09:51 |
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| Hobbsee | tseliot: ping? | 11:34 |
| tseliot | Hobbsee: hi | 11:34 |
| tseliot | anything I can help you with? | 11:35 |
| Hobbsee | tseliot: i was looking through unmet deps recently, and it seems that there's still a fair chunk of nvidia-type stuff on there. Were you planning to examine it, and hopefully make some of the stuff installable again? | 11:36 |
| Hobbsee | Presumably you're one of the better people to do it | 11:36 |
| tseliot | Hobbsee: unmet deps? Any examples I can have a look at? | 11:38 |
| Hobbsee | tseliot: apt-cache unmet -i | 11:39 |
| Hobbsee | tseliot: grep as appropriate | 11:39 |
| tseliot | Hobbsee: aah, the -envy flavours. I thought we removed them | 11:40 |
| Hobbsee | tseliot: unsure. it appears not. | 11:40 |
| tseliot | I'll make sure they are removed from Intrepid | 11:40 |
| Hobbsee | tseliot: cool, thanks :) | 11:40 |
| tseliot | Hobbsee: thanks a lot for reporting the problem :-) | 11:40 |
| Hobbsee | tseliot: thanks in advance for fixing it :) | 11:41 |
| tseliot | ;) | 11:43 |
| persia | tseliot: Do you not need them to ensure safe upgrades from hardy? | 11:45 |
| persia | (obviously, being installable is good, but in terms of packages names: are dummy packages required) | 11:46 |
| tseliot | persia: I'm working with mvo on this. Nvidia-common and Update manager should help users with the transition. | 11:47 |
| tseliot | even if users dist-upgrade from the command line they will be warned by nvidia-common's debconf dialog | 11:48 |
| tseliot | otherwise Update Manager will install the new drivers automatically | 11:48 |
| persia | Hrm. OK. Personally, I generally believe the need for hints in update-manager represents a bug, and we ought try to do it with dummy packages, but given the complexity of this particular transition, debconf may work. | 11:48 |
| tseliot | persia: unfortunately Nvidia dropped the support for a few cards and 2 out 4 driver flavours don't work in Intrepid | 11:49 |
| tseliot | therefore some users will have to be migrated to the open source driver while others will use the new proprietary drivers | 11:50 |
| tseliot | but yes, I see your point | 11:50 |
| persia | tseliot: Ah, so there not really a package -> package mapping, but more a new and different card -> driver mapping. Yeah, that requires hints. | 11:52 |
| tseliot | persia: yes, exactly | 11:52 |
| ion_ | Provides-Driver: pci:v00001002d00004150*, ... | 11:59 |
| ion_ | :-) | 11:59 |
| tseliot | hehe | 12:00 |
| persia | ion_: Surely you don't actually want to fill *everyone's* apt cache with that sort of thing (also see http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/blog/entry/package-management-sudoku/ ) | 12:02 |
| ion_ | I don’t. :-) It wasn’t a very serious suggestion. | 12:04 |
| Hobbsee | persia: someone has *far* too much time on their hands ;) | 12:27 |
| persia | Hobbsee: Or a deep understanding of package management, and a desire for more complex test cases to improve performance. Depends on how you want to look at it. | 12:28 |
| Hobbsee | persia: in that case, i'm surprised he hasn't expressed aptitude and/or apt in brainfuck, or something. | 12:29 |
| persia | The idea is to *improve* performance | 12:29 |
| ion_ | hobbsee: I wanted to keep track of my circadian rhythm. So i wrote a program to keep track of my computer usage. It figures out when i’m sleeping more or less automatically. And i wrote a program that creates a graph of the data. :-P | 12:30 |
| * persia doesn't generally participate in language wars, but that's an exceptional language | 12:30 | |
| Hobbsee | ion_: heh. That sounds vaguely useful - although, do you only sleep and use a computer? | 12:30 |
| ion_ | I tend to use it to print all intervals i have been idle for more than an hour (ruby -I~/src/own/idlemeter/ruby -ridlemeter -e 'puts IdleMeter::Analyze.intervals.find_all {|i| i.mode == :idle and i.length >= 3600 }') and pick the ones during which i was obviously sleeping. It can be made a bit more intelligent, though, see http://heh.fi/tmp/idlemeter. | 12:35 |
| ion_ | One could always implement some kind of a self-learning network. ;-) | 12:39 |
| ompaul | juliux, had to restart gnome - big fail | 13:55 |
| ompaul | juliux, now for massive lag ping me a lot for the next minute or two | 13:55 |
| psyke83 | \sh: hey, it seems that ia32-libs is still causing problems for the latest flash plugin, do you have any idea what's wrong? | 14:16 |
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| Cheery | I've realised this weird keyboard I have has bunch of buttons that have stuff like screen brightness and such | 18:00 |
| Cheery | and 7 F-buttons than usual | 18:03 |
| Cheery | 7 more* | 18:03 |
| Treenaks | Cheery: do they work? | 18:04 |
| Cheery | some of them do! | 18:05 |
| Cheery | this is apple's flat keyboard | 18:05 |
| Cheery | but I realise the desktop does not perhaps even recognise two of the buttons on this keyboard | 18:06 |
| Cheery | the F-buttons appear to be function buttons, and have fn-buttons under them | 18:07 |
| Cheery | which can be used through fn-button that's on the place of insert | 18:07 |
| Cheery | the two unrecognised buttons are those special buttons, that become F3 and F4 through fn-button | 18:08 |
| ion_ | Darn. No MPX support in intrepid’s xorg, it seems. Oh well, we’ll have intrepid+1 soon. | 18:34 |
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