[00:27] pochu: I've rejected meta-gnome2 at your request [00:31] cjwatson: thanks [00:32] cjwatson: reuploaded, in case you can approve it [00:32] * pochu waves good night === RAOF_ is now known as RAOF [00:37] pochu: approved - in future you probably should credit changes you make to yourself rather than listing them under somebody else's changes though! [00:38] cjwatson: they are not my changes, I noticed Pedro had added a new debdiff just after uploading the previous one [00:38] but it's Pedro's debdiff without any change [00:39] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-gnome2/+bug/273015 ftr [00:39] Launchpad bug 273015 in meta-gnome2 "cannot install gnome & gnome-office packages" [High,Fix released] [00:47] pochu: ok [01:41] hi, can any archive-admin please reject my upload of gnome-iconedit? (my mirror is outdated, and I've only found out right now that it was removed a few hours ago :() [01:56] Hmm, the new default background reminds of Hoary, I think. [02:00] pochu: I'm thinking that the alternative is still the right way to do it, and that python-wxgtk2.8 has a separate bug, so I would argue for fixing both to use alternatives right [05:39] gmoin [05:43] yipee OOo 3.0 rc2 finally finished building [05:47] Mithrandir: why doesn't hte web UI allow you to reject packages? [05:47] oh, lack of u-a. right [05:48] * Hobbsee rejects gnome-iconedit === jelmer is now known as Guest4379 === Guest4379 is now known as jelmer === thegodfather is now known as fabbione === fargiolas|afk is now known as fargiolas === fargiola` is now known as fargiolas [08:57] geser: I opened that bug (libselinux) we were talking about yesterday -> LP #275082 [08:57] Launchpad bug 275082 in libselinux "no debug symbols package in intrepid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/275082 [09:13] tseliot: o/ [09:14] emgent: hi [09:51] geser: thanks === fargiola` is now known as fargiolas|afk [11:34] tseliot: ping? [11:34] Hobbsee: hi [11:35] anything I can help you with? [11:36] tseliot: i was looking through unmet deps recently, and it seems that there's still a fair chunk of nvidia-type stuff on there. Were you planning to examine it, and hopefully make some of the stuff installable again? [11:36] Presumably you're one of the better people to do it [11:38] Hobbsee: unmet deps? Any examples I can have a look at? [11:39] tseliot: apt-cache unmet -i [11:39] tseliot: grep as appropriate [11:40] Hobbsee: aah, the -envy flavours. I thought we removed them [11:40] tseliot: unsure. it appears not. [11:40] I'll make sure they are removed from Intrepid [11:40] tseliot: cool, thanks :) [11:40] Hobbsee: thanks a lot for reporting the problem :-) [11:41] tseliot: thanks in advance for fixing it :) [11:43] ;) [11:45] tseliot: Do you not need them to ensure safe upgrades from hardy? [11:46] (obviously, being installable is good, but in terms of packages names: are dummy packages required) [11:47] persia: I'm working with mvo on this. Nvidia-common and Update manager should help users with the transition. [11:48] even if users dist-upgrade from the command line they will be warned by nvidia-common's debconf dialog [11:48] otherwise Update Manager will install the new drivers automatically [11:48] Hrm. OK. Personally, I generally believe the need for hints in update-manager represents a bug, and we ought try to do it with dummy packages, but given the complexity of this particular transition, debconf may work. [11:49] persia: unfortunately Nvidia dropped the support for a few cards and 2 out 4 driver flavours don't work in Intrepid [11:50] therefore some users will have to be migrated to the open source driver while others will use the new proprietary drivers [11:50] but yes, I see your point [11:52] tseliot: Ah, so there not really a package -> package mapping, but more a new and different card -> driver mapping. Yeah, that requires hints. [11:52] persia: yes, exactly [11:59] Provides-Driver: pci:v00001002d00004150*, ... [11:59] :-) [12:00] hehe [12:02] ion_: Surely you don't actually want to fill *everyone's* apt cache with that sort of thing (also see http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/blog/entry/package-management-sudoku/ ) [12:04] I don’t. :-) It wasn’t a very serious suggestion. [12:27] persia: someone has *far* too much time on their hands ;) [12:28] Hobbsee: Or a deep understanding of package management, and a desire for more complex test cases to improve performance. Depends on how you want to look at it. [12:29] persia: in that case, i'm surprised he hasn't expressed aptitude and/or apt in brainfuck, or something. [12:29] The idea is to *improve* performance [12:30] hobbsee: I wanted to keep track of my circadian rhythm. So i wrote a program to keep track of my computer usage. It figures out when i’m sleeping more or less automatically. And i wrote a program that creates a graph of the data. :-P [12:30] * persia doesn't generally participate in language wars, but that's an exceptional language [12:30] ion_: heh. That sounds vaguely useful - although, do you only sleep and use a computer? [12:35] I tend to use it to print all intervals i have been idle for more than an hour (ruby -I~/src/own/idlemeter/ruby -ridlemeter -e 'puts IdleMeter::Analyze.intervals.find_all {|i| i.mode == :idle and i.length >= 3600 }') and pick the ones during which i was obviously sleeping. It can be made a bit more intelligent, though, see http://heh.fi/tmp/idlemeter. [12:39] One could always implement some kind of a self-learning network. ;-) [13:55] juliux, had to restart gnome - big fail [13:55] juliux, now for massive lag ping me a lot for the next minute or two [14:16] \sh: hey, it seems that ia32-libs is still causing problems for the latest flash plugin, do you have any idea what's wrong? === asac_ is now known as asac === johanbr_ is now known as johanbr [18:00] I've realised this weird keyboard I have has bunch of buttons that have stuff like screen brightness and such [18:03] and 7 F-buttons than usual [18:03] 7 more* [18:04] Cheery: do they work? [18:05] some of them do! [18:05] this is apple's flat keyboard [18:06] but I realise the desktop does not perhaps even recognise two of the buttons on this keyboard [18:07] the F-buttons appear to be function buttons, and have fn-buttons under them [18:07] which can be used through fn-button that's on the place of insert [18:08] the two unrecognised buttons are those special buttons, that become F3 and F4 through fn-button [18:34] Darn. No MPX support in intrepid’s xorg, it seems. Oh well, we’ll have intrepid+1 soon. === emma_ is now known as emma === jono__ is now known as jono === davidm_ is now known as davidm === fargiola` is now known as fargiolas|afk