| fta | asac, got an answer for 3.1 | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| wgrant | asac: Are you planning to remove firefox soon? It appears to be uninstallable, and should probably die anyway... | 00:23 |
| fta | we will remove it | 00:24 |
| [reed] | ? | 00:24 |
| [reed] | oh, firefox 2? | 00:24 |
| wgrant | Yes. | 00:25 |
| fta | yes | 00:25 |
| fta | in intrepid only | 00:25 |
| [reed] | heh, k :) | 00:25 |
| fta | [reed], do you see any reason we should keep it ? | 00:27 |
| [reed] | no | 00:27 |
| [reed] | it becomes unsupported in December | 00:27 |
| [reed] | :) | 00:27 |
| fta | we discussed that during the last meeting and voted for the removal | 00:28 |
| fta | yeah, i know | 00:28 |
| fta | [reed], why did the moved the newtab button? it's impossible to move it now | 00:39 |
| fta | -d | 00:39 |
| [reed] | not sure, really. I saw the bug, but I didn't think anything about it | 00:40 |
| fta | hmmm, "Part 2 of Ogg backend seeking implementation" | 00:42 |
| fta | "More JIT testing on trunk. Crashers found, but many known. " still crashing here | 00:44 |
| fta | the new flash is far better but still a pig | 01:01 |
| fta | 66% cpu + 14% for Xorg | 01:02 |
| fta | 40% under ff3.1, interesting | 01:17 |
| Hobbsee | fta: latest version doesn't build, current version doesn't install. | 05:36 |
| fta | asac, [reed], http://paste.ubuntu.com/51677/ bad mozilla | 16:28 |
| Andre1 | hello | 16:45 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| asac | fta: reconnect ;) | 16:46 |
| asac | Andre1: hi | 16:46 |
| Andre1 | hhmmm ok sorry, this is my first time using IRC so bare with me | 16:47 |
| Andre1 | can you help me with using lightning in ubuntu? | 16:48 |
| Andre1 | hello? | 16:51 |
| asac | Andre1: install the lightning-extension package ;) | 16:53 |
| Andre1 | i have lightning on my computer already | 16:53 |
| Andre1 | for some reason I can't add events to my calender | 16:54 |
| Andre1 | and currently I can't even shut down thunderbird. I've opened a terminal and typed top but I can't see thunderbird running | 16:55 |
| Andre1 | any ideas? | 16:57 |
| Andre1 | anyone watching this at all? | 16:57 |
| Andre1 | 36 people in the room and I'm the only one talking? | 17:01 |
| Andre1 | Sorry if I'm spamming, but I've never used IRC before so would appreciate knowing if anyone is listening | 17:02 |
| Andre1 | magical | 17:04 |
| Knusper | I've never used IRC before... yeah... thats why you should read at least some documents about "how to behave on irc" | 17:09 |
| Knusper | lol | 17:09 |
| fta | [reed], libasound is linked everywhere in trunk, this is ugly: ( | 17:37 |
| fta | even in libsqlite3.so | 17:38 |
| fta | asac, [reed]: firefox is 2nd: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+upstreamreport# | 18:02 |
| XioNoX | hi! | 19:28 |
| wikz | fta: I have a problem with the current user.I can't launch spicebird when I run as myself but other users on my sys can launch spicebird.Other users are both desktop users and admin privileged users.I get a cannot connect to dbus file error. | 19:29 |
| fta | wikz, hm, never heard of that | 19:31 |
| wikz | fta: I don't want to re-create my user as I have been using this for a long time, since 7.04 | 19:31 |
| wikz | Lots of customizations and shortcuts | 19:31 |
| wikz | and I have been bothering my team that something is wron with spicebird :( | 19:31 |
| fta | you could disable dbus but there's probably a better solution | 19:32 |
| fta | did you google for your error message? | 19:32 |
| wikz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/85118 | 19:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 85118 in dbus "epiphany launch error: Unable to connect to session bus" [Medium,Confirmed] | 19:34 |
| wikz | something like this fta | 19:34 |
| fta | asac, i've experimented a bit with the QT support in 3.1. I've drafted my ideas on the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/QT please let me know what you think | 19:34 |
| fta | wikz, did you try to restart dbus? | 19:42 |
| wikz | restarted the system too | 19:42 |
| wikz | tried the tricks | 19:42 |
| wikz | why just with one user and not others | 19:43 |
| fta | you may have files/sockets with the wrong perms | 19:44 |
| fta | have a look in /var/run/dbus/ or /var/run/hald/ | 19:44 |
| fta | try netstat -a | 19:45 |
| fta | or start spicebird under strace and look for dbus | 19:45 |
| wikz | fta: you also might need to ship firefox QT with a KDE theme like http://ramonantonio.net/kde-firefox/ | 20:03 |
| wikz | fta: Do I need to put the stuff in the /usr/share folder ?like thunderbird 2 or everything in one folder like TB3 ? | 20:25 |
| fta | wikz, debian (and lintian) would want you to do like tb2. here, we don't care much about that and prefer the upstream way.. at least for now. | 20:27 |
| wikz | thanks :) | 20:27 |
| wikz | fta: This brings me to the doubt whether I need to maintain separate binaries for debain and ubuntu ? | 20:28 |
| wikz | are debians really pricky about these ? | 20:28 |
| fta | they are, as there are driven by their strict policy. In theory, ubuntu too but this particular rule is not enforced, at least, not by us | 20:30 |
| wikz | man :| | 20:30 |
| fta | it's a choice we've made last year to stick with /usr/lib/product-version/ from upstream rather than having to patch and dissect to get /usr/lib/product and /usr/share/product | 20:31 |
| wikz | fta: there are other issues too.I need atleast telepathy 0.7.9 to use the system flag but hardy has 0.7.3 .ibex has 0.7.13. | 20:34 |
| fta | well, then build in-source for hardy :( | 20:35 |
| wikz | any point in supporting prior to hardy ? Gutsy and all ? | 20:36 |
| fta | i don't think so. the latest dev & stable and the lts are enough | 20:37 |
| fta | the further back you go, the worse it is to support, mainly because of dependencies | 20:38 |
| [reed] | fta: I'm not sure how to read this page... | 21:22 |
| [reed] | ah, let me read the wiki | 21:22 |
| fta | [reed], click on the link in the yellow box | 21:22 |
| [reed] | yeah | 21:23 |
| [reed] | so, basically, this says you all are doing a horrible job at triaging and pointing stuff upstream :p | 21:23 |
| [reed] | <g> | 21:23 |
| armin76 | lol | 21:23 |
| fta | [reed], or http://stompbox.typepad.com/blog/2008/09/introducing-the.html | 21:24 |
| fta | i'm much into bugs, that's a full time job | 21:24 |
| fta | especially with crappy^Hbig software like ff | 21:25 |
| [reed] | haha | 21:25 |
| [reed] | need to get more Ubuntu/Canonical QA folks working on stuff ;) | 21:25 |
| armin76 | all slackers | 21:27 |
| [reed] | jcastro: very neat report ;) | 21:28 |
| fta | wikz, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2008-September/000113.html | 21:29 |
| fta | [reed], you know you can help us too | 21:31 |
| fta | [reed], especially that your are using the official builds on ubuntu, you could help triaging packaging/ubuntu bugs from upstream bugs in a blink | 21:32 |
| * fta votes for a 5-a-day just for [reed] | 21:33 | |
| [reed] | jaja | 21:34 |
| [reed] | er | 21:34 |
| [reed] | haha | 21:34 |
| [reed] | I already triage bugs in Bugzilla! | 21:34 |
| [reed] | yet another bug tracking system :( | 21:34 |
| [reed] | I'm more than happy to help track down bugs upstream on a request basis, but I honestly don't have the time to triage all the bugs in launchpad | 21:35 |
| [reed] | I'm already super busy ;( | 21:36 |
| fta | the last column could do | 21:39 |
| fta | those in pending_bugwatch | 21:39 |
| fta | just 33 | 21:39 |
| wikz | fta: how can I add our bugzilla in the launchpad project settings ?so that users file bug directly there instead of here?Do you have a better suggestion than this ? | 21:44 |
| fta | hm, in the project page, there's something | 21:46 |
| wikz | yes bugzillas for lots projects but obviously noy ours | 21:47 |
| wikz | one says somewhere else | 21:47 |
| wikz | that's all | 21:48 |
| fta | wikz, i just asked the lp admin, you have to file a question to request it: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad | 21:52 |
| wikz | fta: thanks :) | 22:00 |
| [reed] | fta: ok, I'll try to take a look later this week | 22:06 |
| [reed] | too many projects due before that ;) | 22:06 |
| fta | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=928263 | 22:31 |
| fta | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=927822 | 22:34 |
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