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deliicqmy taskbar disappeared. how can i take it back?00:52
homebrewcidercan't get my new monitor working through DVI, I'm guessing I have to edit xorg to include DVI, am I right?00:57
deliicqyes homebrewcider, you can also use grandr or xrandr to identify it00:58
deliicqgrandr can configure it also00:58
Odd-rationaledeliicq: tried alt+f2 and running: xfce4-panel ?00:58
deliicqhmm it worked... but how it disappeared?00:59
deliicqgod :(00:59
deliicqthanks Odd-rationale!00:59
Odd-rationaledeliicq: probably xfce4-panel crashed or something... restarting got it back...01:00
deliicqi tried rebooting but nothing happened01:00
Odd-rationaledeliicq: then maybe your session got messed up....01:01
deliicqyeap, i think so01:01
deliicqwell, by the way, i have compiz installed, but i cant find the option on "applicantions" to configure it01:01
homebrewciderhmm, okay , got grandr identifying it, but I can configure it using this as well?01:02
Odd-rationaledeliicq: did you install compizconfig-settings-manager?01:02
deliicqi could bet my life that it came together with compiz default install01:03
deliicq=P01:04
Odd-rationaledeliicq: check synaptics for compizconfig-settings-manager01:05
deliicqyes, i checked it and wasnt installed01:06
deliicqproblem solved01:06
deliicqoh dear, my desktop crashed -_-01:06
deliicqcant see any icon01:06
homebrewcidercan't see how i can configure this through grandr01:07
deliicqbrb01:08
deliicqOdd-rationale: i rebooted it01:18
deliicqmy panels dont come by default01:18
deliicqand avant-window-navigator opened 10 times01:19
deliicq:(01:19
homebrewciderhow do i configure through grandr please?01:24
deliicqhomebrewcider: it doesnt show your new display?01:35
homebrewciderit show the display, I'm using it now but through vga, it doesn't work through dvi, that's my problem01:40
homebrewciderdoesn't seem to be any config options01:41
deliicqOdd-rationale: can you help me with this issue?01:46
Odd-rationaledeliicq: yeah, i got to take a shower first though...01:53
Odd-rationaledeliicq: but, doyou have session saving turned on when you log off?01:53
deliicqnope... i turned off this option01:54
deliicqso its a new session always i log in01:54
Odd-rationaledeliicq: try deleting your ~/.cache folder01:57
Odd-rationaledeliicq: then try renaming your ~/.config/xfce4 to ~/.config/xfce4.bak01:57
Odd-rationaledeliicq: then log out and back in...01:57
deliicqrenaming the folder, right?01:59
Odd-rationaledeliicq: yeah...01:59
deliicqok... lets logout01:59
deliicqok...02:01
Odd-rationaledeliicq: how it goes?02:02
deliicqi think its ok now, i'll make some more tests... i have disabled the avant on auto-start02:02
deliicqi'll try turning it on now02:03
deliicqto see if it bugs02:03
Odd-rationalek, i;ll go take my shower...02:03
Odd-rationale:P02:03
deliicqyeah go for it :P02:03
deliicqsorry for disturbing ya02:03
deliicqOdd-rationale: i was going to create an launcher on desktop and it crashed. the desktop crashed. i cant see nothing there...02:16
bassboi:D03:03
Coldhaki play an older game, and it sets my resolution to 600x800. if said game crashes, or I alt-tab, my res doesn't go back to 1600x1200 like it should. is there a way to make a desktop shortcut to change the resolution?03:30
Coldhakit's rather drawn out to have to go through the settings panel every time.03:31
pod_Coldhak: Does Ctrl-Alt-Numpad+ not cycle resolutions?04:06
Coldhakdoesn't appear to04:08
TotaleI'm not sure if I want to use "Migrate Documents and Settings", I need a link or a description of what exactly gets moved.04:16
Coldhaki've never used it, but this seems to outline the process http://www.michaellarabel.com/?k=blog&i=11604:19
Totalety04:19
Totalelol, seems only my background will be copied04:19
Totalethx again, cya04:21
Secto1How can I install ubuntu and skip over bad sectors of the hard disk05:56
flybackok05:58
* flyback is really tired of explaining this05:58
flybackno offense05:58
flyback*ALL* modern ide, sata, scsi, etc hd's05:58
flybackwhen writing to a sector since you destroy the old contents anyways05:59
flybackif they hit a error, they take the address of that sector say 32978274239842387905:59
flybackand they rip it off05:59
flybackthat sector is shitlisted not to use05:59
flybackand a hidden spare is given the old address05:59
flybackso any os, etc still thinks it's the same sector05:59
flybacktherefore *NO* os should be able to see any bad spots05:59
flybackif it sees any it means05:59
flybacka) the hard drive is damaged, dying or has so many errors it has run out of spares06:00
flybackin which case it's time to pitch06:00
Secto1ah06:00
Secto1interesting06:00
flybackb) an error developed on read, in which case writing to all the sectors of the disk (psuedo low level format, since true is not possible) will give the disk the excuse to get rid of any bads that went bad on read06:01
flybackit won't recallocate on read cause that is risky06:01
flybackactually some newer ones do06:01
Secto1you may have just saved me a lot of trouble lol, thanks so much06:01
flybackc) in some rare cases a power fail or crash can make the disk think a sector is made in which case the b) solution might also fix06:01
flybackno problem I wish I had better news06:01
flybackcheck the smart logs06:01
flybackfor reallocated sector # in raw06:01
flybackfor pending reallocations = hey I know some sectors smell like shit but waiting for a write06:02
flybackand for any unc errors = uncorrectable06:02
Secto1the disk is blank atm, i installed ubuntu onto it and it seemed to go fine06:02
Secto1but on reboot it couldn't mount the root fs06:02
Secto1lol06:02
flybackhow was it blanked06:02
flybackyou just delete the partitions? or did you use something like dban06:02
Secto1i deleted the partitions after that failure06:03
flybackyeah that won't help06:03
flybackyou need to overwrite the whole disk06:03
flybackthe disk maker's utils should have a erase disk/low level format option to do this06:03
flybackit can also asssess the helath of the disk06:03
flybackI mean I have seen and myself in the past have partitioned around a group of bad sectors and got away with it06:03
Secto1i see, any linux tools in specific that you recommend?06:03
flybackbut it's basically a bald tire06:03
flybackno other than smartctl to check the smart logs06:04
Secto1good reference ^_^06:04
flybackfor a generic disk erasing program both for security and also I find it's a good way to shake up a disk06:04
flybackis dban06:04
flyback*WARNING*06:04
Secto1warning?06:04
flybackdban will hapilly nuke all disks in the box including possible usb disks06:04
flybackI found this out the hard way at work06:04
Secto1shwha?06:05
flybackit started erasing the disk and the backup06:05
flybackon usb disk06:05
Secto1and if i only want it to delete 1 harddrive?06:05
Secto1or rather, erase06:05
flybackyou can start dban in interactive mode and just select that one06:05
flybackor unsure just temp unplug the disk you don't want erased06:05
Secto1lol06:06
flybackfor good generic disk diag programs06:06
Secto1ok06:06
flybackif you have a disk maker who sucks canucks06:06
flybackmhdd06:06
flybackhdat206:06
flybackfeel free to hang in #hardware if you need any more help I should be back around tomarrow06:06
flybacki'm about to dban my laptop before I reload the os06:06
Secto1ok06:07
Secto1thx again, very much06:07
flybacknp :)06:07
flybackwhat brand disk06:08
Secto1maxtor06:08
Secto1250GB06:08
Secto1SATA06:08
flybackick06:09
flybacknot as bad as WD06:09
flybackbut still ick06:09
flybackactually since seagate bought them, they seemed to have cleaned them up a bit06:09
Secto1i have a seagate too06:13
Secto1it's new06:13
Secto1the maxtor is several years old06:13
Secto1what is life expectancy of a hard disk that is used daily?06:14
flybackhow old is the maxtor06:15
flybackmore than 3 yrs?06:15
flybackI had one last 5 hrs06:15
flybacka few yrs is the average lifespan if that06:16
flybackseagate have a 5 yr warrenty though :)06:16
Secto1wish they lasted longer than that06:16
Secto1i have an old IDE 20GB harddrive that is FAR older than the maxtor and has lived through it all06:16
Secto1never a problem with it06:17
flybackwhat brand was it06:18
Secto1it's in an active computer atm06:19
flybackI got a pile of 52 old hd's I have to go thru extract data from06:19
Secto1O_O06:19
flybackand another to add to the list, a wd 40 gig that just went bad and still had data on it06:19
flybackI am building a dedicated box that just spends weeks sending resets to a dying disk and reads off little by little06:19
flybackunless the disk has suffered a total loss of a head etc06:20
flybacki've also learned some tricks for head and board transplants06:20
Secto1I would like HDDs to last 10 years06:20
flybackwill get the disk running just long enough to pull the data off06:20
Secto1that would be acceptable06:20
Secto1lol06:20
flybackdream on06:20
Secto1moving disks annoys me06:20
flybackmabye solid state ones will although I dunno how since flash cells have around 10,000-100,000 write cycles06:20
flybackalthough in almost every flash format except raw nor and raw nand and the formats XD and smartmedia06:21
flybackthere is a controller chip inside that randomizes the writes while appearing to the os to always be the same sector06:21
flybackso they wear down evenly06:21
Secto1sweet06:21
Secto1my 1GB usb stick has outlasted the plastic case, got it in '03 or '0406:22
Secto1it's held together with duct tape06:23
flybackwhat brand06:23
Secto1and works great06:23
Secto1i'll check06:23
Secto1sony06:26
flybackI think sony's stuff has been ok over the yrs06:27
flybackmy favorite is sandisk06:27
flybackbut I also like kingston06:27
flybackand memorex06:27
Secto1ever had a SimpleTech usb harddrive?06:27
flybackno06:28
flybackbut I had one of their flash drives06:28
flybackthat failed after a few hundred writes06:29
flybackopened them up06:29
Secto1mine broke in about a week06:29
flybackhad flash chips in it that were tested only for a few hundred writes at best for things like your bios06:29
flybackor a router firmware06:29
flybacksince those only see a few hundred writes in it's lifetime06:29
flybackbut as a usb flash disk they will burn out quickly06:29
flybackbunch of crooked flash makers out there06:30
Secto1I was mad when i opened up the SimpleTech usb drive, it was just a WD laptop harddrive with an adapter on it06:30
flybackthat's normal06:30
flybackthey are all like that06:30
Secto1my best friend got his 80GB usb harddrive a month before i did06:31
Secto1his had a metal casing and was very durable06:31
Secto1mine got owned06:31
flybackyou should not have opened the external hd if it was under warrenty06:31
Secto1wasn't worried about it, i put a new laptop harddrive in the adapter and used it anyway06:32
Secto1lol06:32
Secto1the part that bothered me the most was seeing the actual price of the drive they put in06:33
Secto1it was half the price of the usb drive itself06:33
Secto1so they put an adapter and a plastic case on, then double the price06:33
Secto1--_--06:33
flybackheh06:33
flybackyeah tbe bridge chips aren't expensive06:33
flybackneither is the smps power adaptor06:33
Secto1i'll be back06:35
jikihi how do i switch between command line and xfce? and how can i make it so that login is terminal based and it logs into a terminal then i haveto type startxfce or something?07:36
Odd-rationalejiki: to switch to the command line try ctrl+alt+f1 - f607:45
_i_loveis it possible to convert a dmg file to a deb file or something like that so i can use it for my printer which doesn't have any linux support for10:59
TheSheep_i_love: no, it's not possible to use software written for MacOS on Linux11:03
_i_lovei need to find a good ppd file then11:04
_i_lovei need to install my printer i tried the work around for it but it doesn't work so i was going to try to modify a mac ppd file11:05
Sa[i]nTHow do you change the background picture in xfce?11:36
TheSheepSa[i]nT: settings->setting manager->desktop11:37
Sa[i]nTMy settings manager panel. Does'nt have desktop on it.11:38
TheSheepthen it's not normal xubuntu installation11:38
TheSheepis it?11:39
Sa[i]nTIt's xfce, on ubuntu.11:39
TheSheepSa[i]nT: maybe you forgot to install some of iportant components, like xfdesktop4 or mcs-setting-plugins11:40
TheSheepimportnat11:40
Sa[i]nTTheSheep: Looking for anything I may have missed.11:43
iTHINKHello I am new Xubuntu user11:48
iTHINKI loved Xubuntu...... :)11:48
knomegood to hear11:49
iTHINKBut I'm unable to install Internet drivers and so I need help11:49
iTHINK:)11:49
nnulli want to setup file sharing/vnc etc and tunnel it all via ssh but its confusing :s11:51
nnulli need to install openssh on the Serverbox first right?11:51
iTHINK?11:53
TheSheep!vnc | nnull11:53
ubottunnull: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX11:53
TheSheepiTHINK: how do you access internet?11:53
iTHINKADSL 2+ router/modem11:53
iTHINKIt's broadband.....11:54
iTHINKRight now I'm on XP (multiboot system) and accessing internet from there11:54
nnullyea thx sheep, must of followed that guide 5 times now, and i always trail off :x11:54
TheSheep!adsl | iTHINK11:55
ubottuiTHINK: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE11:55
TheSheepiTHINK: have you tried that?11:55
iTHINKwait a minute.....seeing to link you provided11:57
iTHINKNope......never tried as in the link......11:58
iTHINKAnd I will try it now....11:58
TheSheepgood luck11:58
iTHINKThanks TheSheep........I will be back if I face problems11:58
iTHINKbye12:12
iTHINK@TheSheep-Thanks for help (approx half an hour ago)..... Now I can access internet without any problems (I am connected to IRC from Xubuntu now).....thanks.....13:16
TheSheepiTHINK: glad to hear that13:17
iTHINK:)13:17
iTHINKIts nice that you remember me13:17
TheSheepiTHINK: tbh nobody else said anything here in the mean time :)13:18
iTHINKOk :)13:19
iTHINK;)13:19
iTHINKI had been using Red hat linux 9 for a while but now I have switched to ubuntu.13:20
iTHINKIs there any IRC channel for Plan 9?13:20
JannoTTAny bash kings here?13:53
favroI think all the bash kings hang out in #bash13:54
knomewhat about queens?13:54
MyrttiI was just about to cough, thanks knome13:55
knomenp Myrtti13:55
knomei like queens13:55
knome;)13:55
MyrttiI'm a pink fairy princess, but lets not get into that13:55
knomei like pink fairy princesses as well13:55
favromaybe join #camp...13:56
knomekings usually live in #castle s13:56
JannoTTlol13:56
adi1hi all14:48
knomehello14:49
adi1what to do to associate the mutimedia keys with xubuntu xfce14:49
adi1I mean play/pause next previous14:49
adi1on a dell 6400 laptop14:49
adi1I tried with keytouch14:49
adi1but could work only for volume up down and mute buttons14:50
adi1anyone can help?14:50
viddvolume up/down and mute auto-work when the volume panel app is on....14:51
knomehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2703914:51
adi1now in my laptop they dont work eather14:51
vidddo you have the volume panel app on your panel?14:52
adi11 sek im going to put it14:52
adi1now I have it but the volume dont work14:53
adi1sory it works :(14:53
adi1:):):):)14:53
adi1no prob with volume14:53
adi1now for the next previous plya/pause?14:53
vidddid you look at the link posted by knome ?14:55
adi1the link you gave me needs some time to read and understand14:55
adi1im gonna doi it14:55
adi1but if you have some short way to make it work14:55
viddif ya have issues, ask =]14:55
adi1after the reading :)14:55
adi1ok thanks :)14:56
viddi dont waste my money on those types of keyboards14:56
viddi already know the built-in shortcut keys for the apps i use14:56
adi1thats rithgt14:56
adi1how to find the short keys for anything?14:56
viddummm...read the info for the app14:57
viddfor example....any media player in linux (ive found no exceptions), left arrow rewinds, right arrow skips forward, space pauses/unpauses14:58
viddup arrow fast-forwards, down arrow slows playback14:58
vidd[alt]+[f4] closes app....14:59
viddwhat more do i need?14:59
TheSheepusually apps have help...15:00
TheSheepyou can also enable 'editable menu accelerators' in user interface settings, then highlighting a menu option with mouse and pressing a key combination assigns it to that option15:01
adi1 ok thank guys :)15:01
adi1im gonna do my home work now with that link15:02
adi1later :)15:02
adi1hi all15:25
adi1how can I remove that horible  bios beep on xubuntu?15:26
viddthat is your bios, not your OS15:26
adi1it hapens every time that you press backspace15:26
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adi1ok mybe it's not the bios beep15:26
adi1I dont have it in xp15:26
viddoh...15:26
adi1it's something that beeps when the action is not posible15:27
adi1or something like that15:27
adi1any help?15:28
vidddont try the impossible =]15:28
TheSheepadi1: with xset15:28
TheSheepadi1: xset b off15:28
TheSheepadi1: you can also change it to sound better15:28
adi1what's this a command?15:28
TheSheepadi1: just google for xset b15:28
viddTheSheep, does that need to be done as root to make it global?15:28
adi1ok15:29
TheSheepvidd: no, it has to be added to autostarted applications to stay15:29
viddah....so tty will still do it?15:29
Myrttiblacklist pcspeaker module15:29
Myrtti:-D15:29
viddi personally thought its a useful feature not found in M$15:30
TheSheepvidd: no, it's a setting for X, the graphical interface, it won't affect text mode consoles15:31
adi1ok now it's fine15:31
adi1no sys beep15:31
adi1after this command as root15:31
adi1rmmod pcspkr15:31
Djonhi15:39
viddhello Djon15:40
Djonmay i ask a question ?15:40
vidd!ask15:40
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)15:40
Djonokay :) i try to install xubuntu on an old laptop, but after the language selection, I run the install and then I get a weird screen, i think its a refresh rate problem15:42
viddlive or alt cd?15:43
Djonalt15:43
viddhow many display adaptors on your system?15:43
Djonhmm, only one i think15:44
viddthere should be a "safe graphics mode" option15:45
Djonf4 give me "normal" "oem" "command" "ltsp"15:48
Djonothers options let me edit the boot line15:48
viddDjon, im looking for the info on installing in safe graphic mode16:00
vuKohi how do i modify keyboard shortcuts, i pressed f1+alt before to get xfce menu and got about 20 firefox's...16:01
vuKovidd: get the alternate iso16:01
viddvuKo, he has the alt cd16:01
vuKothere are F# options i think its f4 or f6 to select it16:02
viddDjon, how much ram your machine have?16:02
Djon128 total16:02
DjonI set 16 for graffics, bit it doesnt work with 3216:03
viddDjon, [f4] should be safe grafix mode16:04
vuKohi how do i modify keyboard shortcut please16:05
vidd_0/ cody-somerville16:05
cody-somervillehi16:05
Djon1-normal 2-oem 3-command line 4-ltsp16:06
viddnot 1, 2, 3, 4.....16:06
Djoncommand line has the same problem16:06
vidd[f4]16:06
Djon1234 is the options i get when i press F416:06
viddhrm....16:06
vuKoplease guys... how do i edit my keyboard shortcuts?16:08
Djoni'm looking for a parameter i could use with the "others options" (F6)16:08
viddvuKo, http://www.google.com/search?q=modify+keyboard+shortcuts+xubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a16:09
Djonoh !16:12
Djoni think i found it16:12
viddcool...what was it16:13
Djoni added vga=76216:14
Djonframebuffer activation16:14
viddok....is it working?16:14
Djonhttp://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/tutoriel/comment_activer_le_framebuffer16:15
Djon791 first, but 792 seems to work16:15
viddDjon, cool16:15
viddvuKo, Settings->Window Manager->Keyboard16:15
Djonokay, thanks for the help16:20
Djonbyee16:20
viddvuKo, that help any?16:20
vuKoyea thx vidd16:39
vuKois it bad to make pc boot into a command line and then startxfce ?16:40
vuKovidd in window manager alt+f1 is bound to open workspace or something, instead it open firefox?????16:51
cody-somervillealt + f1 is for help16:51
vuKocody-somerville: whats the shortcut to show the Applications Menu -- and to start a terminal?16:53
vuKocody-somerville: where can i find a list of shortcuts?...16:53
cody-somervillealt + f2 is the run shortcut16:53
vuKoi know that one :P16:53
vuKothe rest are used for window management afaik16:53
cody-somervilleApplications > Settings > Settings Manager > Keyboard > Shortcuts16:54
vuKocody-somerville: i see "Window SHortcuts"16:55
vuKobut none of the things i want to do are listed in there16:55
cody-somervilleWhat do you want to do?16:56
vuKocody-somerville: whats the shortcut to show the Applications Menu -- and to start a terminal?16:56
vuKo^^16:56
cody-somervillecontrol + escape is the default16:56
vuKothat + would be nice to add other stuff ;later like i do in ubuntu 'x16:56
vuKook that works16:56
cody-somervilleAnd you can change it by going to Applications > Settings > Setting Manager, click keyboard icon, and then clicking on the shortcuts tab16:57
vuKowhat about to spawn a terminal16:57
cody-somervilleThere is no default16:57
cody-somervilleSo you'll need to add your own16:57
vuKowell how do i set it?16:57
vuKohow do i add it16:57
cody-somervilleClick add on the lower left of the dialogue to add a new keyboard shotcut theme16:57
cody-somervilleThen click he add button under the pane showing the shotcuts for the current theme16:58
vuKoeh cody-somerville? alt+esc isnt even listed in that shortcut list...16:59
cody-somervilleControl+Escape17:01
vuKothats not there either!!!!!!!!!17:01
vuKotheres nothing of use in there17:01
knomeplease don't shout17:01
cody-somervillevuKo, Sir, please calm down.17:01
vuKosorry, but what your talking about isnt there to configure17:02
vuKoctrl+esc works.. but i cant change it?17:02
vuKotheres no config for these keyboard shortcuts17:02
cody-somervillehttp://cody.zapto.org/screenshots/xubuntu-keyboard-preferences.png17:03
vuKowish i had some webspace mine isnt like that17:04
vuKoit has no add remove under the 2nd pane17:04
cody-somervilleYou're probably not following my directions.17:05
knomevuKo, you can use http://tinypic.com/ for example17:05
cody-somervilleYou're probably looking at the window manager keyboard shortcuts17:05
vuKoi am17:05
cody-somervillevuKo, Well, please re-read the instructions I've given you to get to the normal, everyday keyboard shortcuts.17:06
vuKolol found it... thankyou...17:06
cody-somervillevuKo, you're welcome.17:06
vuKohow do i switch to a cli and then come back to xfce pls?17:09
vuKoomg my tooth is wobbling]17:09
vuKoi could prolly pull it out17:10
TheSheep cli: alt+ctrl+f1, xfce: alt+ctrl+f717:14
vuKoso once im in cli alt+ctrl+f7 will bring me back?17:16
vuKoTheSheep: ^^17:17
TheSheepyes17:17
vuKothx17:17
vuKo133717:17
TheSheepn00 pr081m!17:18
vidd????17:22
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thenullmanhallo19:09
thenullmanI need help with grub and xubuntu19:09
thenullmanplease19:10
thenullmanI'm getting this error when I reboot sometimes:  error 1819:10
thenullmanstage 1.519:10
thenullmanI have an older laptop, but w2k sees it's drive fine and larger drives in the past19:11
thenullmanreinstalling grubgets me to work ok untilreboot19:11
viddthenullman, please pastebin your grub and fstab files?19:15
thenullmansorta a n00b, can Iget to them from the windows partion - I'm dual booting with w2k... I haven't configured much on ubuntu partition yet19:19
thenullmanI could load up pidgin when booted into xubuntu though...19:20
viddthis is what i think your issue is....19:20
* flyback bbl19:21
viddfstab says your linux boot partition is one one partition, but grub is looking for it on another19:22
viddor the issue is hat you need a special condition set in grub, and its not saving correctly19:22
thenullmanwhen I did repair, I had to figure outwhich sda wasthe boot disk,finally figured out sda5 is, reinstalled grubb on thatand things were ok19:24
thenullmanI'll look at fstab - is there a line I'm looking for?  otherwise I could do likeI said b/f and load x and open ppidgin19:25
viddno...fstab is fine19:25
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viddfstab is saying your boot partition is is sda519:27
viddya just need to get grub to look there for the /boot partition19:27
thenullmank, so u need to look at my fstab and grub files still then?19:33
viddthenullman, no....just grub19:36
vuKo!vnc19:38
ubottuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX19:38
thenullmank, see u on the other partition vidd.19:45
viddkk19:45
thenullmanubottu - I'm looking to access the drivefrom w2k while w2k is running and xubuntu is not19:46
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:46
thenullmanjah, I'm not either19:46
flybackhahaha19:47
flybackvnc sux19:47
* flyback ponders how much crap he is going to break in his 2k vm doing a repair install of 2k noSP over 2k sp4 but since the vm died anyways guess it doesn't matter19:50
thenullmanvidd, I'm in x19:58
thenullmanso I'm at the shell...what is cd.. in linux again?19:59
thenullmanor how do I get you what u need?19:59
viddsudo mousepad /boot/grub/menu.lst20:00
thenullmanI just saw that cd and folder name does what I need - I'mdoing the command u just said now20:01
thenullman# menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8)20:02
thenullman#            grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8),20:02
thenullman#            grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub20:02
thenullman#            and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/.20:02
thenullman## default num20:02
vidd!past20:03
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about past20:03
thenullmanoh boy,it booted me out for that paste20:03
vidd!paste20:03
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)20:03
thenullmanoye20:03
thenullmanmy bad everyone20:03
thenullmansawry - n00b i am20:03
thenullmanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/51782/20:04
thenullmanthat might be more readable20:04
thenullmanI'm also n00b to irc20:05
thenullmanbut thx for tolerating my learnin20:05
viddthenullman, change line 131 to say root(hd0,5)20:05
thenullmangot it20:06
thenullmanthat all?20:06
viddit is looking for your boot partition on sda4 (hd0.4) instead of sda5 (hd0,5)20:07
thenullmanok20:07
thenullmanso save and reboot and see what happens?20:08
viddyes....but change lines 137 and 142 if this works20:08
thenullmanso try 1st then change them if test passes?20:09
viddyes20:09
thenullmank, thx20:09
viddthenullman, yes? no?20:11
thenullmanno reboot yet20:12
thenullmansorry20:12
thenullmangetting there...20:12
thenullmanvidd, I get error 17: cannot mount selected partion press any key to cont.20:19
thenullmanI'm on another computer now, but u want me to reinstall grub again to get into xub20:20
thenullmanI just started recovery mode...20:20
thenullmanI'm guessing I could do what needed there...20:20
thenullmanvidd I'm reinstalling grub20:29
thenullmanidk what to do at rescue command line20:29
thenullmanbut I'll make the other 2 changes and test20:29
viddno20:29
viddsince it did not work, making the same change to the other 2 lines will mess your system up even more20:30
thenullmanah20:30
thenullmanso reinstalling grub is ok though?20:30
viddthats why we only made the one change20:30
thenullmank20:30
viddyes...reinstalling grub should be ok20:30
viddnow i want to see your fstab20:31
viddinteresting....20:32
viddyour grub says it is mounting hd0,4 in read-only mode....20:32
thenullmanwell when I was testing and trying to get grub to work originally - I tried to reinstall grub on all 4 sda's and only 5 worked20:33
viddim comparing your grub to mine...20:34
viddlet me know when you posted your fstab20:35
thenullmansorry, might have to wait a bit20:35
thenullmancrying baby and wife working20:36
thenullmanbbl20:36
SmoothPorcupineIs TeamSpeak 2 not hearing my mic an Xubuntu issue, or just generally and Ubuntu issue?20:43
SmoothPorcupinean*20:43
knomeSmoothPorcupine, does the mic work otherwise perfectly?20:46
SmoothPorcupineYes.20:46
SmoothPorcupineI can hear myself in it.20:46
SmoothPorcupineI haven't tested it with other applications.20:46
knomesounds weird then20:47
knomecan you check if you can record from the mic?20:47
viddSmoothPorcupine, if it works with other applications, then it is a teamspeak issue20:47
SmoothPorcupineWhat program can I record with?20:48
adi1hi all20:52
adi1how to controll the brightness level on xubuntu20:53
adi1I have this issue: when I do FN+up/down20:54
adi1it goes at is max level or very low level20:54
adi1is this in ubuntu there is some brightnes applet20:55
adi1but in xubuntu what should I use20:55
SmoothPorcupineIf I can blow into the microphone and hear sound on my speakers, doesn't that mean the mic is working?20:58
viddSmoothPorcupine, yes20:58
adi1can any one help with this small issue?20:58
viddadi1, the FN+up/down is a feature of your laptop's bios...not the OS20:59
adi1my bios is ok for ubuntu and kubuntu21:00
adi1I dont think my bios is set wrong for xubuntu21:00
viddthe bios is the same no matter what os you run21:00
adi1:)21:00
adi1thats right21:00
viddso what is the actual issue?21:01
adi1FN+ up/down arrows set the brightnes eather in max or in very low21:01
adi1level21:01
viddright...as per your bios settings....not anything to do with your OS21:01
viddthere are no default keybinings to FN in any of the *buntu's21:02
adi1can I install some apps21:03
adi1 like brightness applets in ubuntu?21:03
viddfor the FN+up/down?21:03
adi1to controll the brightnes21:03
adi1yes21:03
adi1or should be some config file21:04
adi1let me explain21:04
viddyou can try to change the keybindings....but since they are hard-coded into your bios, i dont expect them to work as you expect21:04
adi1ubuntu kubuntu and zenwalk and linux mint xfce21:04
adi1all those distros did'nt had this issue21:04
adi1I was able to use corectly FN+up/down21:05
adi1in xubuntu wich I like most21:05
viddi think you are missing what im saying21:05
adi1something is wrong21:05
adi1or I made somthing wrong21:05
viddNOTHING the OS does affect the FN+ANYTHING combinations21:05
viddever21:05
adi1ok21:06
adi1I got that21:06
viddyour bios controls that specific keybinding21:06
viddso either you mapped over it....(which i doubt you can do) or the bios is messed up somehow21:07
vidddo you dual-boot?21:07
adi1do u think I should have a look to my bios?21:07
adi1yes xp21:07
viddif you boot into xp right now....does it work as expected?21:08
adi1grub21:08
adi1yes21:08
adi1it work as axpected in all distros above21:08
adi1I remeber some small app21:09
adi1in all xfce distros21:09
DCPomadi1, http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=556988721:10
adi1inside the panel where u can ad sys tray or apps or orage time ect21:10
adi1there was some brightness applet there21:10
adi1in mine cant find it21:10
adi1this link is just my issue21:12
DCPomthe second post is a solution21:13
DCPomand two people say it works inclucing OP21:13
DCPomincluding*21:13
adi1im gonna try out21:13
adi1thanks :)21:14
viddadi1,21:14
viddyou want to use a different text editor then gedit =]21:14
adi1allready done with mousepad21:17
adi1:)21:17
adi1going for boot now21:17
adi1if you dont see me again it dint worked :)21:17
knomevidd, duh, i really like gedit :P21:19
viddthen install it knome XD21:20
knomeit's installed.21:20
viddthen use it21:20
knomeit's in use :P21:20
viddadi1, better?21:20
adi1ok now21:20
adi1:)21:20
adi1that did it21:20
viddim surprised actually21:20
adi1thanks a lot21:20
adi1why?21:21
vidddont thank me!21:21
adi1i have the same laptop as the first post link you send me21:21
adi1:)21:21
adi1dell 640021:21
viddi didnt send the link....you need to thank DCPom21:21
adi1ok than21:22
viddXD21:22
adi1thanks a lot DCPom21:22
adi1for the link21:22
adi1now vidd just a small other issue21:22
thenullmanvidd, I can't load xub.  I vi into menu.lst in recovery mode, but I forget how to use vi and edit, or my keyboard isn't letting me type numbers where I want to to edit the file...  Is there a way to access the fsystem from w2k to make the change?  I guess I could load up knoppix or a live cd... idk21:22
thenullmanI reinstalled grub and that's where I'm @21:23
adi1ok mybe latter21:23
DCPomnp21:23
adi1:)21:23
viddthenullman, unfortunantly...i reinstall cuzz its faster and easier then messing around with editing grub21:23
vidddid you install windows after linux on this machine?21:24
thenullmanso reinstall the whole os?21:24
thenullmannah21:24
thenullmanwindows was 1st21:24
viddthenullman, just the linux21:24
adi1it seems ok21:24
thenullmanI have no data on it21:24
speedcoremy computer says... initrams fs... tty   (kinda) at boot..  and can't get further.. common problem?   xubuntu feisty21:25
favrothenullman: try nano - ctrl+o to write, ctrl+x to close21:25
adi1i do like this one winz first and than linux21:25
* vidd is just like most other men....he dont do windows!21:26
viddspeedcore, has it ever booted?21:26
thenullmanaiight, I'm getting there - I'm trying to learn linux at least...21:26
thenullman(that was for adi1)21:28
thenullmanvidd, anything special I should do in partitioning section?  is it normal that I had 4 drive entries when I tried to repair?  it said sda1,2 5,6...21:29
thenullman(partitioning of install of xub.21:29
viddat least one will be your xp partition21:29
viddone will be the swap partition (kinda small)21:30
viddhow many hard drives you have?21:30
viddthenullman?21:31
thenullmanjust the 121:31
vidddid you previously install other linux OS on this machine?21:31
thenullmantried, but nothing worked...  I don't remember getting anywhere with the installs into partitioning...21:32
speedcorevidd: no not ever.21:32
thenullmanit's slow, a lot of them wouldn't even load the installer21:32
speedcorevidd: the same version cd has booted on other machines21:32
speedcorevidd: or you mean: booted...  anything?21:33
viddok..... thenullman the first partition....how big and is it the XP?21:33
viddspeedcore, did this particular machine ever boot?21:33
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viddspeedcore, so your trying to install? live or alt?21:35
thenullmanyeah, 8gb and it is w2k fat3221:35
viddthenullman, so remove the other partitions....21:35
thenullmank thx21:36
viddthen select the "auto-configure freespace" (or something similar) option21:36
viddOr ...if you prefer....21:36
viddset up a /home, /, and swap partitions21:37
viddthe partions are most likely decently set21:37
viddtell me the size and ill recomend wich for what21:38
vidd=]21:38
viddthe benifit of setting up a /home partition is that if you royally foul up and need to format and re-install "from scratch", you can start "from scratch" without messing up your home directories =]21:39
knomevidd, but with /home and too small / you can epicly fail if the free space on / is 0 ;)21:40
DCPomwhat do you all use for playing CDs or DVDs?21:40
knomeDCPom, kaffeine for dvds21:40
knomeDCPom, and i usually use grip to rip cds and then play the files in amarok21:40
viddDCPom, i use gxine21:40
DCPomis it sudo apt-get install kaffeine?21:41
viddknome, ive never had that issue21:41
speedcorevidd: live-cd bootup is what I try.. I guess installing.. and then not being able to boot.. would be dull21:41
knomeDCPom, yes, but be aware that it might need to install a lot of kde libs if you don't already have them21:42
viddspeedcore, your system probably cant handle the live cd....try the net-installer or the alt21:42
DCPomah... i installed from the xubuntu live disk21:42
thenullmanvidd, I'll reinstall later tonight, but I see what ur saying.  thx again21:49
speedcorevidd: I now tried the gutsy-normalubuntu.. it worked I guess problem was with this particular system and the feisty boot process21:56
speedcorevidd: my system is a celeron 1200mhz.. with a geforce 2mx 32mb card. and 376MB ram..  do I benefit much to install xubuntu? speedyness?  or can I aswell go with the normal hardy?21:57
viddspeedcore, i would always recomend xubuntu over "normal" ubuntu21:59
viddpersonally....i did the base (cli-only) install on my one laptop and installed lxde on it22:00
viddand the next system i build will have even less on it22:00
speedcorevidd: the reson you recommend?  speed?22:00
viddyes22:00
speedcorelxde?22:00
viddLight X Desktop Environment22:01
speedcoreah22:01
viddhttp://lxde.org/22:01
speedcorelooks great..22:02
speedcoreI alreadyn run pcmanfm.. and that's very well made22:02
speedcorethanx for help and the tips..22:03
speedcorenow going to try to boot xubuntu hardy instead of the buggy feisty..22:03
speedcoreon the other hand.. also have a xubuntu feisty system running perfectly on another machine22:04
viddspeedcore, why not get the hardy net-installer22:05
viddits a tiny installer...just enough to get your ethernet working so you can connect to the internet and download everything else22:06
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speedcorevidd: that's good22:26
speedcorevidd: can I boot up the gutsy..  normal gutsy... and get the tiny-running from it?22:26
speedcoreI have no cd-r's here.. and I want to get started.. right now.. not tomorrow.. night here in sweden22:26
soleblazeXorg seems to be taking too many cpu resources.  Just having a window open that refreshes it self every second causes it to use 20% CPU.  I'm using an aspire one wth an Intel 945GM chipset.  HAs anyone heard of this problem before?22:33
compguy379how do you run a gnome program in xubuntu?22:47
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CostaRicanQuakerI knwo this is unrelated, but i need a p2p that has a good userbase...i tried gtk-gnutella and it was outdated from the repos, right now i'm using frostwire which is ok but it sucks for indie-classical stuff, i need a suggestion for the best p2p app that i can sudo apt-get23:19
favroCostaRicanQuaker: I use rtorrent - it's cli but easy to set up and has good support23:30
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