[00:01] <Agent_bob> for music i store as .ogg files on dvd's
[00:01] <Agent_bob> can put about 100 hours per disk
[00:03] <ronnie_> thx agent but I only have a cdrw till next mth, & can only fit 19 songs per disk, = (   , so considering I have 800 songs, I don't have that many cd's haha
[00:04] <Agent_bob> ronnie_ even on cd as .ogg you can put about 10-12 hours
[00:04] <mefisto__> ronnie_: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1593
[00:06] <ronnie_> hmmm, been having trouble with K3B, my songs are compressed to ogg but when I try to burn then, seem to come out as wave, well 19 songs per disk= 10-12 hrs?
[00:07] <Agent_bob> ronnie_ you are burning audio cd   not data cd  ;/
[00:07] <Agent_bob> start a data cd project and add as many .ogg's as will fit
[00:08] <ronnie_> k data, should fit more good thx, & great link thx lots, 4.1gig, might not have to burn
[00:08] <ronnie_> thx tons mefisto = )
[00:08] <mefisto__> ronnie_: I think they recently upped it to 5 gb
[00:09] <ronnie_> kewl so I can store it as data to take less room & reinstall my kubuntu woohoo!
[00:09] <mefisto__> ronnie_: it's been about a year since I used that extension, so I can't promise it still works
[00:09] <Agent_bob> :)
[00:10] <ronnie_> k well ill try
[00:10] <joseph> !medibuntu > joseph
[00:10] <joseph> hm
[00:11] <joseph> so you have to add medibuntu repos to sources.list to use apt-get to install them?
[00:11] <Agent_bob> yep
[00:11] <ronnie_> the reason is I downloaded a animation software for my webcam (freeware), now my webcam won't work = (   so no cvhoice but a fresh install, tho wine says it was uninstalled, oh well free can be risky = )
[00:12] <joseph> Agent_bob: thanks, bob.
[00:12] <Agent_bob> joseph welcome
[00:14] <joseph> so once medibuntu repos are added, is it possible to install the whole suite with one package name? or do you have to manually list every package?
[00:15] <joseph> hm
[00:15] <joseph> ok
[00:15] <Agent_bob> joseph no and no.   it makes everything in that repo avalable.   and the package manager will list them as be installable      err after you update the list.
[00:15] <joseph> i'm trying to find a video editing suite for ubuntu. i thought medibuntu had it. i guess not. hm.
[00:16] <Agent_bob> joseph i think it does have something like that...    you can search the repo dirrectly too
[00:16] <joseph> !video
[00:16] <mefisto__> joseph: what are you looking for?
[00:17] <joseph> something like final cut
[00:19] <mefisto__> joseph: kino is a well-kwown one
[00:20] <joseph> ok
[00:20] <joseph> thanks :)
[00:20] <mefisto__> joseph: kdenlive has a nice familiar interface, but was a bit buggy last I used it (a long time ago)
[00:20] <joseph> but kino is more stable?
[00:21] <joseph> and how about audio? anything like protools?
[00:21] <mefisto__> joseph: kino has been around for a while, so I suppose it's more stable
[00:21] <joseph> k
[00:23] <mefisto__> joseph: the closest you'll come to protools is probably ardour. there's also rosegarden, which looks better and is easy to learn, but not as powerful as ardour. but neither come close to protools or cubase, etc
[00:23] <mefisto__> joseph: rosegarden is primarily for midi work, ardour is audio only
[00:24] <joseph> so ardour is the one then
[00:25] <mefisto__> joseph: you might want to look into ubuntustudio, which is a bunch of media-related apps and tools www.ubuntustudio.org
[00:25] <joseph> thanks
[00:25] <joseph> very helpful :)
[00:26] <skole> Can I use more than one charset? I use UTF-8. I think I need iso 8859-1. I have a problem opening files containing norwegian letters in the file name. This problem came after I upgradet to 8.04
[00:30] <mefisto__> skole: do the filenames display properly?
[00:32] <skole> mefisto: No. The norwegian letters are just boxes and squers.
[00:34] <mefisto__> skole: are the files on a cd or dvd disk? or hard disk?
[00:35] <skole> Its on a USB drive
[00:36] <mefisto__> skole: and you have norwegian language installed ?
[00:37] <skole> Yes I have. Its the old documents that are the problem. I have made new document just to test... That opens perfectly. I have some old docs on the momory stick. but now I cant access them
[00:39] <mefisto__> can you copy them? rename them? etc
[00:39] <skole> My theory is that I have made those docs with a older charset than the relativly new UTF 8
[00:39] <skole> No I cant copy or rename them
[00:40] <Agent_bob> skole have you tried from command line?
[00:41] <skole> No... ehh... I've just installed KDE 4.1.1. Where do I find the command line?
[00:42] <Agent_bob> skole konsole in the kmenu or alt+f2 konsole
[00:42] <Agent_bob> skole and kde4 help is in the other channel ;/
[00:42] <Agent_bob> !kde4
[00:43] <mefisto__> skole: do you have kcontrol installed? there is a "default encoding" setting there in fonts that you could try
[00:44] <skole> Do I use adapt to get Kcontrol?
[00:44] <mefisto__> skole: sorry, that's just for konqueror
[00:45] <Agent_bob> but at any rate.    in the konsole try cd'ing to the dir they are in. and either copy or move them or use a loop to do it like this example:   Q=0 ;for q in * ;do mv $q $Q.txt ;Q=$(($Q+1)) ;done
[00:45] <mefisto__> it's a browser setting, but it might work for file management too. I doubt it though
[00:46] <skole> Mefisto: do you know how I can ad a charset in var/lib/locales/supported.d/local?
[00:47] <Agent_bob> skole in #kubuntu-kde4 you might get answers to things like that...
[00:49] <ahmos> !nvidia
[00:52] <Agent_bob> claydoh
[00:54] <claydoh> hi Agent_bob
[00:54] <Agent_bob> shalom
[00:58] <Agent_bob> for the record, fellows.   i like this channel.   some times i wish the ops would lighten up a little when nothing is happening and we start an off topic convo... but all in all i like this channel better than any channel i have trolled yet...
[00:58] <Agent_bob> :)
[00:59] <skole>  How can i open kate and have super user privelige. Do I write something before the file name in the command line?
[00:59] <Agent_bob> skole kdeusdo kate /path/to/filename
[01:00] <chrisruls00> use kdesudo kate from a run dialog
[01:00] <chrisruls00> someone beat me...
[01:00] <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 i'll slow down   :)
[01:00] <skole> txs!
[01:00] <Agent_bob> texas ?
[01:00] <Agent_bob> taxes ?
[01:00] <chrisruls00> it's ok, I should be focusing on my essay anyways.
[01:03] <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 heh i just looked at it and realized i typoed it anyway    ;/
[01:04] <Agent_bob> s=us=su=
[01:06] <ahmos> how i can disable twin view in xorg.conf
[01:07] <Agent_bob> !twinview | ahmos not sure you can
[01:08] <ahmos> because my maximum refersh rate is 52hz Agent_bob,or what i can do?
[01:08] <ahmos> dynamic twin view
[01:08] <Agent_bob> ahmos if you can't use nvidia-settings to disable it  i'm not sure.
[01:09] <Agent_bob> ahmos maybe someone else has been there/done that
[01:10]  * Agent_bob has an nvidia card but is stuck with the nv driver.
[01:10] <Agent_bob> mine wouldn't have twinview anyway.
[01:10] <ahmos> by the way i usew nvidia-settings but when i configure it then restart my computer ,it returns to default settings Agent_bob
[01:11] <Agent_bob> eeek
[01:11] <Agent_bob> brb
[01:14] <amelie> hi
[01:14] <amelie> need help with dvd playback in kubuntu
[01:15] <chrisruls00> what kind of problem are you having with DVD's?
[01:15] <amelie> can't play dvd movies
[01:16] <amelie> something about encryption
[01:16] <kkathman> how do you restart the apache2/php/ webservices without having to reboot?
[01:16] <amelie> i read i have to get libdvdcss2 file
[01:16] <amelie> i tried that
[01:16] <amelie> but didn't work
[01:16] <chrisruls00> Try entering that into a package manager
[01:16] <chrisruls00> oh ok
[01:17] <amelie> how can i change the repositories to get files?
[01:17] <chrisruls00> what program are you using?
[01:17] <amelie> ?
[01:17] <chrisruls00> To play the DVD
[01:17] <amelie> kffeine
[01:18] <amelie> someone told me to get mplayer
[01:18] <amelie> already tried that
[01:18] <amelie> same problem
[01:18] <chrisruls00> I wouldn't know then. I use VLC for anything video related.
[01:18] <amelie> how do i get it?
[01:19] <chrisruls00> type "sudo apt-get install vlc" into a konsole
[01:19] <chrisruls00> without quotes
[01:19] <joseph> what's the most popular dyndns update app?
[01:19] <amelie> yes... thanks
[01:20] <amelie> i'm downloading
[01:20] <chrisruls00> once you have it, open it up and go File >Open Disc...
[01:20] <chrisruls00> That's how I got DVD to work, I can't promise anything, I don't watch DVDs often
[01:20] <joseph> !dyndns
[01:21] <GWillakers> amelie: enable the medibuntu repos as in this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[01:21] <GWillakers> then sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[01:22] <amelie> hold... trouble downloading
[01:22] <CoJaBo-Eee> Is there a way to use hibernate/standby from the menu or keyboard?
[01:22] <GWillakers> joseph, some routers include the update utility natively
[01:23] <joseph> GWillakers: hm.
[01:23] <GWillakers> I have a linksys that updates dyndns
[01:24] <amelie> thanks chris, i have to restart
[01:24] <amelie> some trouble
[01:24] <amelie> i tried when i get back
[01:24] <amelie> thanks
[01:25] <x_link> Hi
[01:25] <x_link> I have a Intel X3100 GPU, do I need to install any drivers like you do with nVIDIA?
[01:25] <chrisruls00> I have a question, I have a Laptop(Toshiba) with those media buttons on the front (Like play, etc.), Could I set up Amarock to use these buttons?
[01:26] <joseph> GWillakers: awesome. set it up in the router config - works!
[01:26] <joseph> thanks
[01:26] <GWillakers> cool!
[01:26] <BluesKaj> probably, but that depends on what you need to do graphics -wise
[01:26] <x_link> BluesKaj: Was that for me?
[01:26] <Agent_bob> x_link x3100 ??? hmmm not sure.
[01:26] <Agent_bob> !nv
[01:27] <x_link> Agent_bob: This is a onboard card.
[01:27] <x_link> I use a laptop.
[01:28] <Agent_bob> x_link you'd need to check the supported hardware page i guess.
[01:28] <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 yes.   you should be able to use khotkeys to do that i think...
[01:29] <chrisruls00> khotkeys?
[01:29] <CoJaBo-Eee> Is there a way to use hibernate/standby from the menu or keyboard?
[01:31] <chrisruls00> I tried khotkeys but it said "ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed." How would I fix that?
[01:32] <amelie> THANKS A LOT CHRISSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!! the player is working
[01:32] <amelie> muack!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:32] <chrisruls00> thats good to know.
[01:33] <amelie> thanks a lot, bye
[01:34] <chrisruls00> khotkeys isn't working, is there another way to tell what the media keys are called and then just tell Amerock to use them?
[01:38] <Agent_bob> http://gerry.ws/2008/08/17/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-hp-compaq-c700-notebook.html  x_link page is saying that hardy detected and installed driver which supported 3d gfx
[01:38] <Agent_bob> pfft.  when i do look something up that's what happens.  the l-user is went before i can answer.
[01:39] <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 yes  showkeys
[01:39] <Agent_bob> err no s    showkey
[01:39] <Agent_bob> it's cli appp
[01:39] <chrisruls00> "cli"?
[01:39] <Agent_bob> !cli
[01:40] <Agent_bob>  command-line interface
[01:40] <chrisruls00> oh, that. I tried it in konsole already but I got "Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console"
[01:40] <Agent_bob> as opposed to gui
[01:40] <Agent_bob> ?
[01:41] <chrisruls00> I dont know what it means
[01:41] <Agent_bob> from konsole you got that error ?   or from a command within the konsole ?
[01:41] <chrisruls00> A command within the konsole
[01:41] <Agent_bob> show me
[01:42] <chrisruls00> I type showkwy into the console and hit wnter and it says that
[01:42] <chrisruls00> I type showkey into the console and hit wnter and it says that
[01:42] <chrisruls00> I type showkey into the console and hit enter and it says that
[01:42] <chrisruls00> I kept hitting w...
[01:42] <Agent_bob> i saw thwt
[01:42] <chrisruls00> chrisruls00 on chrisruls00-laptop | ~ :: showkey
[01:42] <chrisruls00> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[01:43] <chrisruls00> thats what I'm getting
[01:43] <Agent_bob> did you type :: or is that part of your prompt ?
[01:44] <chrisruls00> Thats my prompt, I changed that back when I was a new user and now I can't remeber how to change it back (I want to BTW)
[01:45] <Agent_bob> for a single shot change    export PS1='my new prompt'      '\l [\u@\h.\w]\$'   maybe
[01:46] <Agent_bob> i'm trying to reproduce that error...
[01:46] <GWillakers> chrisruls00: sudo showkey fixed it for me
[01:47] <Agent_bob> GWillakers ;/   really?
[01:47] <GWillakers> it gets rid of the 'file descriptor' error
[01:48] <Agent_bob> GWillakers k i'm seeing it,     odd.
[01:48] <chrisruls00> wow, I lost my keybord for a while
[01:48] <griff> does anyone know how to open terminal with a shortcut?
[01:48] <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 heh only for ten seconds after the last key press
[01:49] <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 that's in the startup message
[01:49] <chrisruls00> I got the program running, but when I pushed the media keys It couldn't detect them
[01:49] <Agent_bob> griff check the khotkeys   it should list konsole already
[01:50] <griff> thanks bob, ill give that a try
[01:50] <chrisruls00> for opening the terminal with a shortcut, open K menu settings, chose your terminal program and the option to set a shortcut is in the bottom right, I think
[01:50] <chrisruls00> or do it bobs way
[01:51] <GWillakers> I used to have a toshiba laptop.  I never did get the media keys to work.  I remember that I would have had to compile a custom kernel.
[01:51] <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 hmmm it may have to do with xorg setting then...   is your keyboard set to 101 in xorg.conf ?
[01:51] <chrisruls00> I have <Win + Home> set for terminal since my laptop is weird and the win key is in the top right next to the home key, making it easy to push
[01:51] <chrisruls00> I'll check that right now.
[01:51] <Agent_bob> GWillakers was it the ati chipset ?
[01:51] <griff> i dont see a khotkeys, can i run that from konsole?
[01:52] <Agent_bob> GWillakers i have a tosheba with the ati chips and it's terrable.
[01:52] <chrisruls00> My keyboard settings say:
[01:52] <Agent_bob> griff yes
[01:52] <chrisruls00> Section "InputDevice"
[01:52] <chrisruls00>     Identifier     "Generic Keyboard"
[01:52] <GWillakers> I think my problem was the phoenix bios
[01:52] <chrisruls00>     Driver         "kbd"
[01:52] <chrisruls00>     Option         "CoreKeyboard"
[01:52] <chrisruls00>     Option         "XkbRules" "xorg"
[01:52] <chrisruls00>     Option         "XkbModel" "pc105"
[01:52] <chrisruls00>     Option         "XkbLayout" "us"
[01:52] <chrisruls00> EndSection
[01:53] <Agent_bob> hmmm   105  should be able to detect it then
[01:54] <chrisruls00> hmm...
[01:54] <chrisruls00> well, while I am here I have another question
[01:54] <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 one way to rule out xorg as the problem   drop to a console and test it.    ctrl+alt+f1 to a login console    return to xorg with  alt+f7
[01:55] <Agent_bob> that's left alt  ^
[01:55] <chrisruls00> I heard someone say that there is an option you can change in xorg.conf to disable the "click" on a touchpad, forcing you to use the buttons below it. I would prefer it this way, do you know what option that is?
[01:56] <Agent_bob> no but i'm interested too.     lets see if anyone knows.
[01:57] <Agent_bob> everybody   howto disable click on touchpad ???
[01:57] <chrisruls00> Would this make any difference?
[01:57] <chrisruls00> # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
[01:57] <chrisruls00> # nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder57)  Wed Jul  2 12:30:48 PDT 2008
[02:01] <Agent_bob> google sujests three lines added to the touchpad section      Option "TapButton0'' "0''
[02:01] <Agent_bob>      Option "TapButton1'' "0''
[02:01] <Agent_bob>      Option "TapButton2'' "0''
[02:01] <Agent_bob> i'm not sure about the qoting there though.
[02:02] <Agent_bob> www.newlinuxuser.com/howto-disable-the-tap-function-on-my-touchpad/
[02:02] <dr_willis> There is that gsynapatics tool also
[02:02] <chrisruls00> thanks
[02:05] <Agent_bob> yeah another link shows more accurate quoting.
[02:05] <Agent_bob>                    Option "TapButton" "0"
[02:05] <Agent_bob>                    Option "MaxTapMove" "0"
[02:05] <Agent_bob>                    Option "MaxTapTime" "0"
[02:06] <Agent_bob> that actually looks right to me
[02:07] <Agent_bob> dr_willis ok now how to convert that to console gpm ?
[02:07] <chrisruls00> I found the old post where that guy told me about it and he said "TapButton1" "0" Disables Double-clicking using a touchpad.
[02:08] <dr_willis> No idea on GPM. My laptop has a  touchpad on/off button I just use..
[02:08] <Agent_bob> it just dawned on me that my issue with tab/click is in console not in xorg       that's why i havent tackeled it hitherto
[02:09] <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 kewlio
[02:09] <GWillakers> dr_willis: I have a touchpad on/off button, but everytime i turn it back on kded crashes! :(
[02:09] <Agent_bob> i don't have a switch.
[02:10] <Agent_bob> i have used a card to cover the touchpad though...
[02:10] <chrisruls00> show key didn't work in tty1 either
[02:10] <Agent_bob> hmmm i could set a console hotkey to start/stop gpm   that would work.
[02:10] <dr_willis> GWillakers,  thats interesting...
[02:10] <dr_willis> GWillakers,  do other window managers crash also?
[02:11] <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 you mean didn't detect the media buttons or didn't work at all ?
[02:11] <chrisruls00> Didn't detect the media buttons
[02:11] <GWillakers> dr_willis: haven't tried any others since I got my new laptop (HP DV9000)
[02:11] <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 ok. it's gonna take a kernel module or kernel keymap to activate them  and that one step out of my reach.
[02:12] <dr_willis> I got a HP DV2000
[02:12] <GWillakers> dr_willis: maybe i'll try it with a ubuntu livecd
[02:12] <Agent_bob> s=that one=that is one=
[02:12] <dr_willis> I always instll a few extra windowmanagers... just in case. :)
[02:13] <Agent_bob> dr_willis how many is a few ?    6? 8?
[02:13] <Agent_bob> :)
[02:13] <ahmos> Agent_bob: i've solved refresh rate problem but when i start some games i get a blank screen
[02:13] <GWillakers> my last laptop I installed gnome... cluttered everything up and I hate gnome!!
[02:13] <dr_willis> I tend to install icewm, and jwm.
[02:13] <dr_willis> and gnome and kde.
[02:13] <dr_willis> :)
[02:13] <GWillakers> never tried those
[02:14] <dr_willis> I use icewm/jwm in vnc sessions mainly
[02:14] <GWillakers> is jwm the same wm as on damn small?
[02:14] <chrisruls00> it's ok
[02:14] <Agent_bob> i generally install blackbox fluxbox twm xfce4 gnome and kde
[02:14] <Agent_bob> and end up using the console exclusively
[02:15] <GWillakers> lol
[02:15] <Agent_bob> GWillakers but actually that's not a joke ;/
[02:16] <GWillakers> I'm comfortable with the command line but I'm not there yet!! :)
[02:16] <chrisruls00> Speaking of vnc, I have one set up, but I heard there is a way to set vnc up so that Ican connect to the log-in screen, since my current set-up requires me to log-in before I leave home and keep it open, I would like to know how to set it up so remote connections can be sent to the log-in screen.
[02:16] <dr_willis> chrisruls00,  depends on exactly how/what/where you are connecting
[02:17] <dr_willis> chrisruls00,  i use vnc4server, and  from a remote machine, i normally just 'ssh in' and  run 'vncserver'
[02:17] <Agent_bob> gdm can listen for vnc connections
[02:17] <Agent_bob> kdm prolly too
[02:17] <chrisruls00> ok, what is ssh? I hear that a lot.
[02:17] <dr_willis> that way the session stays alive even if i disconnect.  - with the gdm way.. if i disconnect. the session may exit.
[02:17] <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 ssh is 'da bomb'
[02:17] <dr_willis> chrisruls00,  time to spend an hr or 2 reading on ssh. :)   putty is a ssh client for windows.
[02:17] <Agent_bob> !info ssh
[02:17] <dr_willis> in short  it lets you get a remote shell.
[02:18] <dr_willis> long description - its one of the most versitile tools out there. :)
[02:18] <chrisruls00> I would Like to know how to do this. I have a program called putty on my flashdrive but I could not get it working.
[02:18] <Agent_bob> dr_willis that's the long and short of it ?
[02:19] <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 install ssh on the ubuntu box
[02:19] <chrisruls00> Currently I use vncviewer from a flashdrive, I enter my IP address and port number that I have forwarded to my computer's IP
[02:19] <chrisruls00> "ubuntu box"
[02:19] <chrisruls00> ?
[02:19]  * Agent_bob hides.
[02:19] <dr_willis> chrisruls00,  and you start the vnc server on the remote box.. by walking over to it.. and  logging in and  starting it up... my way.. you just ssh to the remote box. :)
[02:19] <chrisruls00> I already have the ssh package installed
[02:20] <dr_willis> you dont need to be logged  at the  actual 'machine'   or have a desktop showing
[02:21] <chrisruls00> ok, I'm kinda confused right now. I would like something to use a programm I caould run off of a flashdrive if possible. I don't know anyone else that uses Ubuntu so I want to connect from Windows XP systems.
[02:22] <dr_willis> putty client on flash drive..  and you can ssh to the linux box's ip.
[02:22] <dr_willis> then do all sorts of things.  :)
[02:22] <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 ok i just tested for you.  your ssh-server is running.  you can login to your computer with your username and password over ssh     ssh chrisruls@ip72-196-6-236.om.om.cox.net
[02:22] <Agent_bob> and enter your password.
[02:23] <dr_willis> ssh ip72-196-6-236.om.om.cox.net   works? thats scary
[02:23] <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 now. you may also want to tighten security a little    make a good healthy password and limit sshd to allowing only a few users  is a good idea.
[02:23] <Dragnslcr> dr_willis- it resolves to the IP address, and that's all that matters
[02:24] <GWillakers> change the port that ssh uses too!!!!
[02:24] <dr_willis> security through obscurity! :)
[02:24] <Agent_bob> GWillakers why any nmap test will find the new port....
[02:24] <chrisruls00> I'm still very confused!!! How do I set up ssh on machine I want to connect to?
[02:25] <dr_willis> install the open-sshserver package.
[02:25] <dr_willis> !ssh
[02:25] <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 what os is it running ?
[02:25] <GWillakers> Agent_bob: make it a really high number and pray!!
[02:25] <chrisruls00> what os is what running?
 I'm still very confused!!! How do I set up ssh on machine I want  to connect to? <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 what os is it running ?
[02:26] <Agent_bob> that "it"   ^
[02:26] <Agent_bob> GWillakers heh  :)
[02:26] <chrisruls00> ok, could someone walk me through this step-by-step or something?
[02:26] <GWillakers> chrisruls00: do you connect using a router??
[02:26] <chrisruls00> yes
[02:26] <Agent_bob> i can't cause you wont answer me...
[02:27] <chrisruls00> The maching I want to connect TO is kubuntu 8.04
[02:27] <GWillakers> did you forward the ssh port??
[02:27] <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 then install ssh on it
[02:27] <Agent_bob> "same it"
[02:27] <chrisruls00> wait, let me check
[02:27] <Agent_bob> it's port 22 by default
[02:28] <chrisruls00> yes
[02:28] <chrisruls00> package ssh is already installed
[02:28] <mario_> alaluia!
[02:29] <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 then use the command     ssh <user>@<ip>     # where <user> is a login user account on the remote box and <ip> is it's ip address
[02:30] <chrisruls00> ok
[02:30] <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 you can also use the "fish" protocal in konqueror to get a file manager over ssh access to the remote box.        konqueror's address bar: fish://user@ip:/
[02:31] <Agent_bob> it will prompt for the password
[02:32] <chrisruls00> Kubuntu is the os I want to connect TO, I would like to connect FROM a windows XP machine
[02:32] <noura> Hello guys, I am having trouble with hibernate/resume on my vaio
[02:32] <chrisruls00> aka Kubuntu is the server, XP is the client
[02:33] <chrisruls00> you mentioned a program called putty
[02:33] <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 putty is for windows
[02:33] <noura> there is putty for linux
[02:33] <chrisruls00> So putty is what I want to use?
[02:34] <Agent_bob> noura but it's kinda a waste of space seeing that openssh is for linux
[02:34] <dr_willis> Putty is a ssh client for windows. (and linux)
[02:34] <noura> true, I was just saying...
[02:34] <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 from windows yes you use putty and connect to ssh server
[02:34] <dr_willis>  the ssh  client is not the same as the ssh server.. there are 2 ssh packatges..
[02:35] <chrisruls00> ok, let me go try from my dad's computer (has XP) I'll BRB
[02:35] <dr_willis> !find ssh
[02:35] <dr_willis> with ssh - spending an hr reading a few docs - pays BIG dividends/
[02:35] <Agent_bob> dr_willis ahem   one ssh package.  two openssh-.* packages  but ssh depends on both of them.
[02:35] <noura> can anyone help me with resume/hibernate?
[02:36] <dr_willis> I thought th essh metapackage got removed.
[02:36] <dr_willis> or perhaps it got added. :) i rember at some time 'apt-get install ssh' dident work
[02:36] <GWillakers> noura: I don't know much about it, but describe the problem.
[02:36] <Agent_bob> attention to all ssh users. i have found that colourizing the prompt when remote also pays dividends
[02:36] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3175
[02:37] <dr_willis> color prompts are fun
[02:37] <dr_willis> willis@black:~(7.858 Mb)$
[02:37] <Dragnslcr> !info ssh
[02:37] <chrisruls00> Ok, how do I set up the server side of ssh?
[02:37] <dr_willis> Mine shows the file side in the current dir.
[02:37] <Agent_bob> i only have colour when remote with that code in .bashrc files.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3175
[02:37] <noura> Well I got hibernate to work using s2both, but suspend doesn't. And besides it would work from the terminal only, from the gui it doesnt
[02:37] <dr_willis> chrisruls00,  install the ssh package..  or the client and server packages.. :)
[02:37] <Dragnslcr> chrisruls00- make sure that openssh-server is installed
[02:38] <chrisruls00> They are allready installed
[02:38] <Agent_bob> !info ssh
[02:38] <dr_willis> then they are there...
[02:38] <dr_willis> ssh localhost
[02:38] <dr_willis> and see if it works
[02:38] <Agent_bob> doesn't look removed  ^
[02:38] <chrisruls00> do I have to set anything up?
[02:38] <dr_willis> chrisruls00,  try 'ssh localhost' and see if it works
[02:38] <Dragnslcr> chrisruls00- installing openssh-server should start the server for you
[02:39] <chrisruls00> yes, it worked
[02:39] <Agent_bob> Dragnslcr heh he already had it running on the box he's irc'ing on.
[02:39] <dr_willis> Then its working. :)
[02:39] <chrisruls00> so now I do the same thing with putty on a windows machine?
[02:39] <dr_willis> install putty.. enter ip #.. connect.
[02:39] <chrisruls00> ok, I'll go try.
[02:39] <dr_willis> read putty docs. :) its not hard to figure out
[02:39] <Dragnslcr> You mean run putty
[02:40] <Dragnslcr> Putty is a good program. It doesn't need to be installed
[02:40] <Agent_bob> Dragnslcr ?
[02:40] <Agent_bob> execute it remotely ?
[02:40] <Dragnslcr> Eh?
 Putty is a good program. It doesn't need to be installed <<<
[02:41] <dr_willis> or we are confusing the term 'download and run the stand alone version' with 'download the isntaller and run the installer version'
[02:41] <Dragnslcr> Right
[02:41] <Agent_bob> so you don't have to have a local copy to use it ?
[02:41] <Dragnslcr> Is there an installer for Putty now?
[02:41] <dr_willis> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html
[02:41] <Dragnslcr> I always just use the executable from the .zip
[02:41] <dr_willis> Has been for ages Dragnslcr
[02:42] <Dragnslcr> Oh yeah
[02:42] <Dragnslcr> Forgot about that
[02:42]  * Agent_bob thinks we are confusing what "install" actually means
[02:42] <Dragnslcr> No we aren't
[02:42] <Dragnslcr> I just never use the installer
[02:42] <dr_willis> and i always use the installer.
[02:43] <Agent_bob> downloading a zip file and unpacking it on the hard drive is installing software
[02:43] <Dragnslcr> Not in the Windows world it isn't
[02:43] <Dragnslcr> If it doesn't put loads of junk in the registry, it's not a real installer
[02:43] <BluesKaj> gotta run the .exe file on windows
[02:43] <Agent_bob> yes it is.   you don't have to rewrite a "regestry" file to install something
[02:44]  * dr_willis waits for the !OT 
[02:44] <dr_willis> :)
[02:44] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[02:44] <Dragnslcr> Way ahead of ya
[02:44] <dr_willis> now lets argue about scripting vs programming!
[02:44] <dr_willis> :)
[02:44] <chrisruls00> ok, It worked.
[02:44] <Dragnslcr> Isn't it great how Kubuntu doesn't have a registry
[02:44] <BluesKaj> silence
[02:44] <dr_willis> That will be in KDE5
[02:44] <dr_willis> :)
[02:44] <chrisruls00> But I got some security error about host keys or something.
[02:45] <Agent_bob> Dragnslcr it does in one respect. the package database
[02:45] <Dragnslcr> chrisruls00- it's not an error, it's just a warning
[02:45] <chrisruls00> ok
[02:45] <dr_willis> chrisruls00,  now would be a good time to read up on the basics of ssh. :)
[02:45] <Dragnslcr> chrisruls00- you'll always get it the first time you connect to a given server
[02:45] <chrisruls00> well, now that I got that working, is there a way to get a graphical log-in through ssh?
[02:46] <Dragnslcr> chrisruls00- yes, but it's not quite as simple
[02:46] <chrisruls00> I'd like to try.
[02:46] <dr_willis> chrisruls00,  I ssh in, and run the vncserver , then connect with a vnc client.
[02:46] <Dragnslcr> I recommend using a VNC server that supports SSL
[02:46] <Dragnslcr> I use x11vnc, which works well
[02:46] <dr_willis> !tunnle
[02:46] <dr_willis> Hmm
[02:47] <Dragnslcr> Helps to spell it right
[02:47] <Dragnslcr> !tunnel
[02:47] <dr_willis> I never use vnc over the internet. SO i never use it.
[02:47] <dr_willis> :)
[02:47] <Dragnslcr> Or not
[02:47] <ronnie_> hey mefisto, have a question about "gmail" addon for firefox = )
[02:47] <dr_willis> !tunneling
[02:47] <chrisruls00> I can already use a vnc, but I have to be logged-in for it to work
[02:47] <dr_willis> I know theres a factoid on it.
[02:47] <GWillakers> !vpn
[02:47]  * Agent_bob waits for the !fishing
[02:47] <dr_willis> chrisruls00,  which is why i keep mentioning sshingin, and running vncserver. that way you do NOT have to be logged in for it to work
[02:48] <dr_willis> well whenyou ssh in, you actually are logging in.. :) but you are not logged into X.
[02:48] <Dragnslcr> Doing it that way, though, won't get you the session that's on your monitor
[02:48] <Dragnslcr> Which may be what you want. I'm just pointing it out
[02:48] <dr_willis> Dragnslcr,  yep.. but doing it that way.. WILL keep the session alive. :) if you hang up.. which is what i want.
[02:48] <dr_willis> Not sure what he wants..
[02:49] <Dragnslcr> Hehe, good point
[02:49] <chrisruls00> ok, so if you log-in onto ssh and run the vncserver command I can connect through vnc? How do I set up the password that way? I'm using KDE's default remote client right now.
[02:49] <dr_willis> ITs all about the details.. which he may not realize even exist.
[02:49] <ronnie_> how do you upload your music?, I see my songs on the left window, & click on middle upload arrow? nothing happens, @mefisto
[02:49] <dr_willis> chrisruls00,  ssh uses the users password. vncserver can have its own password
[02:49] <chrisruls00> It's called kfrb it thing
[02:49] <chrisruls00> It's called kfrb thing
[02:50] <chrisruls00> thats what I'm using now
[02:50] <dr_willis> chrisruls00,  thats ONE specific vncserver/method. :)
[02:50] <Agent_bob> plus or minus a few w's eeh chrisruls00  :)))
[02:50] <Dragnslcr> chrisruls00- I believe you want to run vncpasswd to set the password
[02:50] <dr_willis> vnc is almost as varied/flexiable as ssh.
[02:51] <chrisruls00> ok so do I need to close the vncserver that kfrb is running right now 1st?
[02:51]  * Agent_bob disallows password login over ssh and keeps his key on a usb stick
[02:51] <dr_willis> I normally set up vnc4server, and when i run vncserver, i set it to start up a very light desktop. Such as icewm. that way i dont get a lot of lag.
[02:51] <Dragnslcr> chrisruls00- you can, but you don't have to
[02:52] <Dragnslcr> chrisruls00- if you start a new vncserver when one is already running, it'll just pick a different port
[02:52] <dr_willis> chrisruls00,  vncserver can have multiple sessions at the same time. :) its a cool feature. You could have 8+ different vnc sessions going on the same machiune with 8_ differnt desktops
[02:52] <Dragnslcr> When you start vncserver, it'll tell you what port it's running on
[02:52] <dr_willis> or 8+ different users... all with their own session.
[02:52] <chrisruls00> cool, but I dont wnat to open up too many ports.
[02:52] <Dragnslcr> chrisruls00- don't worry, there's no shortage of them
[02:52] <dr_willis>  # of ports wont be the limit. :) whith that many users.. theres otehr  limits that will come into play
[02:53] <Dragnslcr> Like memory
[02:53] <chrisruls00> I'm using a router so I'd have to forward the ports, right?
[02:53] <dr_willis> theres also 'freenx' wich is a similer to vnc tool.. but  not vnc. :)
[02:53] <dr_willis> using vnc over the wild internet..  may not be the most secure thing to do.
[02:53] <ronnie_> anyone useing "Gmail" firefox addon?, I'd like to know how you upload? = )
[02:53] <chrisruls00> I'm going to go experiment a bit...
[02:53] <mn_> im trying to do the directions here http://www.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_change_the_permissions_of_a_mounted_ntfs_volume and can't figure out how to do it.  Help please?  (im trying to reset my permissions on my Windows partition)
[02:53] <dr_willis> work time .. bye
[02:55] <Agent_bob> mn_ sudo mount -o remount,dmask=027,fmask=137 /mount/point  #maybe
[02:56] <Agent_bob> or do you mean permanantly ?
[02:57] <mn_> i want to permanently change my permissions on win ( i calcls ed myslef out of it)
[02:58] <shadowhywind> hay all is there a command to see who is logged in using sftp?
[02:59] <GWillakers> mn_ http://sourceforge.net/projects/ophcrack/
[02:59] <Agent_bob> shadowhywind pstree ?
[02:59] <Agent_bob> shadowhywind who or w might tell you i'm not sure
[03:00] <shadowhywind> never used pstree before it looks interesting
[03:00] <Agent_bob> i think there is an xpstree too
[03:00] <mn_> GWillakers:  I didn't loose my password
[03:00] <snude> hi
[03:00] <snude> anyone install DooM 3 in linux ?
[03:01] <GWillakers> shadowhywind: fuser
[03:01] <mn_> I changed the permission for everyone on the computer to none
[03:01] <mn_> acciedentally
[03:01] <Agent_bob> mn_ pastebin your fstab
[03:01] <GWillakers> mn_, can you log onto windows as an admin?
[03:01] <Agent_bob> your /etc/fstab file's content
[03:02] <mn_> GWillakers: i can't even boot windows
[03:02] <mn_> ok agent bob
[03:02] <Agent_bob> mn_ wait   are the two issues related ?
[03:02] <mn_> what two issues?
[03:03] <Agent_bob> are you talking about the windows permissions ?    or the mount psyudo permissions for the file system mounted under linux ?
[03:03] <chrisruls00> how do I set what port vncserver uses when I launch it from a command line.
[03:03] <mn_> oh
[03:03] <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 "man vncserver" should know
[03:03] <mn_> i want to change the permissions in windows from linux
[03:03] <chrisruls00> I tried man vncserver already
[03:04] <Agent_bob> oh that's nothing i care to mess with.
[03:04] <mn_> i can't boot windows because nothing has access to the CL\
[03:04] <Agent_bob> mn_ sorry, i don't do windows.
[03:04] <mn_> well it's linux commands
[03:04] <Agent_bob> not that i know about.
[03:04] <mn_> http://www.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_change_the_permissions_of_a_mounted_ntfs_volume
[03:05] <mn_> i just need help as far as what to replace ... with like in the second command
[03:05] <Agent_bob> i looked at that.  has nothing to do with windows permissions
[03:05] <GWillakers> mn_ can you look around your windoze partitions from linux?  if so copy the data and blow away your windoze partition.  use linux.  be happy
[03:05] <mario_> tcp-com server availlable to kubuntu:
[03:05] <GWillakers> mn_ seriously, copy the data if you can and reload windows.
[03:06] <mario_> W]?
[03:07] <mn_> Well, I'm in school.  I love linux, but I still need my windows partition because I know how to use all that better.  Its kind of a back-up deal
[03:07] <chrisruls00> ok I tried running vncserver after sshing in but when I use vncviewer it just connected to my already logged in session
[03:07] <GWillakers> Just out of curiousity... How did you mess up windoze?
[03:08] <Agent_bob> mn_ no sir.  the things in that link are totally unrelated to windows.   all that is on the like you posted is 100% linux    will not affect windows booting
[03:08] <mn_> oh
[03:08] <Agent_bob> s=like=link=
[03:08] <mn_> sorry i didn't know that
[03:09] <david> No1PeaceDragon
[03:09] <Agent_bob> onlything they are changing is psyudo permissions established by the mount command.    doesn't last past a reboot
[03:09] <GWillakers> mn_ maybe you could try to use the windows repair console.  do you have the windows disk?
[03:10] <mn_> already did. the only thing that cause was that i had to go and manually copy the ntdrl and ntdetect.com files from the cd onto my hdd
[03:10] <david__> No1PeaceDragon
[03:10] <chrisruls00> When using vncviewer, how do you tell it which of the vnc servers to connect to if you have more than one open?
[03:10] <Agent_bob> mn_ explain how you made windows unbootable ?    from withing windows i bet ?
[03:10] <mn_> yes
[03:10] <mn_> in command prompt
[03:10] <mn_> cacls C: /P guest:N
[03:11] <Agent_bob> mn_  you need to take this to ##windows.  no offence but this is not the place for it.
[03:11] <GWillakers> mn_ good luck!
[03:11] <Agent_bob> yes good luck with it.
[03:11] <mn_> thnx
[03:12] <chrisruls00> ok, I think the vnc server auto-launched by KDE is getting in the way, how do I stop it from auto-launching?
[03:12] <Agent_bob> if it can be repaired from linux they will probably know how
[03:12] <Guest90511> http://bugs.kde.org
[03:12] <noura> Hello, I figured out how to hibernate my system using "s2both", but how do I automate it? As in when closing the lid of the laptop, X minutes of inactivity? As opposed to manually doing it in the terminal?
[03:13] <chrisruls00> does anyone know?
[03:13] <Agent_bob> noura you can probably call it from inittab when the lid closes but i don't have the specifics on that.
[03:14] <chrisruls00> !vnc
[03:14] <noura> Agent_bob: thats what I thought, but the specifics is whats important :S
[03:14] <Agent_bob> chrisruls00 !i sorry.
[03:14] <Agent_bob> noura true dat
[03:14] <Dragnslcr> chrisruls00- add :N to the address, where N is the server number
[03:15] <Agent_bob> well i'm out folks,  good night and good luck to your pinguins.
[03:15] <david__> cya agent
[03:15] <chrisruls00> like xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:1 , where the x's are the IP address?
[03:16] <natetechboy128> like foo:1234
[03:16] <natetechboy128> connects to foo on port 1234
[03:16] <chrisruls00> but then where do I put the port?
[03:16] <chrisruls00> then how do select what seesion of vnc I want to use?
[03:16] <chrisruls00> ugg, now I'm more confused.
[03:17] <natetechboy128> so, what are you trying to do? sorry
[03:17] <david__> dont make a mountain out of a molehill.....one thing at a time
[03:17] <chrisruls00> I'm trying to run vnc through ssh
[03:17] <Denise> rolf
[03:17] <natetechboy128> ok
[03:17] <chrisruls00> I used to run it without ssh, but I want to switch
[03:17] <david__> hi denise
[03:17] <Denise> hi
[03:18] <chrisruls00> KDE auto-runs vnc when I log-in so I want that stopped.
[03:18] <david__> we met briefly the other night I was no1peacedragon
[03:18] <Denise> how are u
[03:18] <Denise> ok
[03:18] <Denise> yes
[03:18] <david__> I am good and you?
[03:18] <Denise> good too
[03:18] <[Relic]> Have there been any packages updated in 8.04 (64bit) in the last couple weeks?    (wondering if I screwed something up in adept)
[03:19] <natetechboy128> so... 2 ways to stop autorun programs.
[03:19] <natetechboy128> 1
[03:19] <natetechboy128> edit your .bashrc and add a killall vnc
[03:19] <natetechboy128> which sucks
[03:19] <natetechboy128> or 2
[03:20] <grendal_prime> hey guys hows it going. Im trying to send something from my treo phone to my laptop via bluetooth.  its just a picture, i send stuff between my phone and my wifes phone both ways no problem..and i send stuff from my laptop to my phone, no problem, but when i try and send it to the laptop from the phone i just gives an cannot connect error.
[03:20] <Denise> what brings you here dear david?
[03:20] <chrisruls00> ok, I think krdc is what is launching the unwanted vnc server, how would I stop it?
[03:20] <david__> just got bored so figured I would learn something in the meantime lol
[03:21] <grendal_prime> I have the entire bluez collecting fir the k enviroment installed from what i can tell.
[03:21] <grendal_prime> im assuming i need a push server installed..
[03:22] <david__> I assume you are here to tell someone forget me lol
[03:22] <GWillakers> chrisruls00: it is probably launched through inittab.  You probably have to do an "update-rc.d name remove"
[03:22] <Denise> lol
[03:22] <Denise> oh
[03:22] <Denise> u are the forget me guy
[03:22] <david__> heehee
[03:22] <Denise> wwith metallica music
[03:22] <Denise> lol
[03:23] <Denise> you make me blush
[03:23] <david__> actually no I was the pothead who smoked so much he would be a slow headbanging sessipon lol
[03:23] <david__> session*
[03:24] <Dragnslcr> How is this idiot not permanently banned
[03:24] <david__> who?
[03:24] <Denise> cus he is genius
[03:25] <Denise> sensible to flattery?
[03:26] <david__> who?
[03:27] <Denise> so are you sober tonight david?
[03:27] <natetechboy128> what?
[03:27] <david__> ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm kinda
[03:27] <Denise> oh
[03:27] <Denise> good
[03:28] <david__> why u ask?
[03:28] <Denise> I m proud of u
[03:28] <david__> ty
[03:28] <Denise> i want ur happiness
[03:28] <david__> I am always happy and thx
[03:29] <Denise> always?
[03:29] <Denise> you are a phenomen
[03:29] <Denise> you eat a lot of fruits I bet
[03:30] <mefisto__> !ot
[03:30] <david__> I figure why get madded or sad cuz something doesn't work or happen the way they posed to ....life is too short for that so be happy always is my mantra
[03:31] <Denise> yes
[03:31] <Denise> same for me
[03:32] <Denise> why something should work or happen
[03:32] <Denise> lets be zen and meditate
[03:32] <Denise> no need, no pain
[03:32] <david__> i do that alot too
[03:32] <Denise> ma house, ma rules
[03:32] <motkue> how do i set the destop cube to autostart with KDE?
[03:33] <david__> mine worked right off the bat for me so Cant help much
[03:34] <Denise> right off the bat
[03:34] <Denise> what does it mean
[03:34] <david__> yep
[03:34] <Denise> sorry bad enguelish
[03:34] <david__> oh right off the bat means immediatly
[03:35] <Denise> what??
[03:35] <Denise> lol
[03:35] <Denise> you are hyper tonight
[03:36] <david__> nah just more comfortable in this type of chat system
[03:36] <Denise> always as funny as u were
[03:36] <david__> now
[03:37] <david__> I gotta go for now, was very nice seeing you
[03:37] <Denise> yes
[03:37] <grego> does anyone know how to download build-essential (it's metapackage) package localy?
[03:37] <Denise> going to bed
[03:37] <Denise> mum is calling me
[03:37] <david__> yep me too
[03:37] <david__> nite
[03:37] <Denise> cya
[03:38] <favro> grego: what do you mean by locally?
[03:38] <favro> !build-essential
[03:38] <favro> !build-essentials
[03:39] <grego> omg
[03:39] <grego> i know that it is on Cd..
[03:39] <grego> usually it is
[03:39] <favro> never seen it on cd
[03:40] <grego> im asking about something else...
[03:40] <grego> geeze
[03:45] <snude> is it just me or does the conductor of an orchestra always move retarded ?
[03:52] <mn_> how do you work torrents on kubuntu?  do you just download the .torrent and then click on it?
[03:53] <dale__> I usually just open it.  I set the default app to ktorrent.
[03:54] <mn_> what folders do the torrent downloads go to?
[03:55] <dale__> you have to set that up in your torrent client.
[03:57] <grendal_prime> ya ktorrent is pretty self explanitory
[03:57] <shepherd> #chemistry
[04:03] <chrisruls00> I'm having trouble with vnc, I log-in through ssh, and I want to start a vnc server that will go to the loggin screen, how do I do that?
[04:04] <dale__> chrisruls00: try this (at your own risk) "xinit -- :2"
[04:05] <dale__> this should launch another x session
[04:06] <dale__> oh, that probably won't work
[04:08] <chrisruls00> I want to launch a vnc server with an X server that I can connect to through vncviewer.
[04:09] <dale__> chrisruls00 http://www.linux.com/feature/43165
[04:11] <chrisruls00> I want the vnc server to be a new display, not the one on my monitor
[04:14] <snude> hi
[04:14] <snude> how can i tell what version of xorg im running/
[04:18] <lufthanza> heya
[04:18] <lufthanza> is man not installed by default in kubuntu?
[04:21] <mario_> kubuntu = Cadillac Ubuntu...everything inside
[04:22] <lufthanza> then I need a way to reinstall man
[04:22] <lufthanza> because it's not installed
[04:27] <lufthanza> anyone?
[04:27] <lufthanza> i want to reinstall man
[04:27] <dale__> sudo apt-get install manpages man-db
[04:28] <dale__> g'luck
[04:29] <lufthanza> dale__: thanks
[04:30] <lufthanza> dale__: I have both manpages and mandb
[04:30] <dale__> you mean you had them before?
[04:31] <dale__> or you had them after you installed them
[04:31] <lufthanza> i had them before
[04:31] <dale__> what's the problem you're having?
[04:31] <lufthanza> and yet for some reason i don't have man
[04:31] <lufthanza> "bash: man: command not found"
[04:31] <devo>  is there a program called acidrip for linux and if so, where can i get it???
[04:32] <dale__> if you type "which man" what does it say?
[04:32] <lufthanza> dale__: nothing
[04:33] <devo>  is there a program called acidrip for linux and if so, where can i get it???
[04:33] <dale__> devo: sudo apt-get install acidrip
[04:34] <devo> thnx
[04:34] <lufthanza> dale__: i am not a man without man. Please help me
[04:34] <dale__> lufthanz: when you type apt-get isntall manpages mandb it tells you that they are at the latest version?
[04:34] <lufthanza> dale__: yep
[04:34] <dale__> is this a new install of kubuntu?
[04:35] <lufthanza> dale__: no
[04:35] <lufthanza> dale__: nearly a year old now
[04:35] <dale__> and man just stopped working?
[04:35] <lufthanza> dale__: maybe more than a year
[04:35] <lufthanza> dale__: not sure. I went to use man to look up stuff on badblocks, and it was missing
[04:36] <pvd> can anybody give me screenshots of kubuntu desktop, please?
[04:36] <lufthanza> pvd: sure
[04:36] <pvd> i want to istall kubuntu
[04:37] <pvd> install*
[04:37] <pvd> give me link please
[04:37] <lufthanza> accept the download i sent you
[04:37] <pvd> no no
[04:38] <pvd> DCC closed
[04:38] <dale__> lufthanza: type "ls -l /usr/bin/man" and tell me what it says
[04:38] <pvd> give me link please
[04:38] <lufthanza> dale__: man -> ../lib/man-db/man
[04:39]  * pvd slaps lufthanza around a bit with a large trout
[04:39] <lufthanza> pvd: http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1zl2.png
[04:40] <lufthanza> pvd: keep your pants on, i was uploading it -.-
[04:40] <dale__> lufthanza, how about "ls-lL /usr/bin/man" do the permissions look right?  mine are rwxr-xr-x
[04:41] <lufthanza> dale__: ?????????? ? ?         ?          ?                ? man
[04:42] <dale__> what are the question marks?
[04:42] <dale__> is that what it comes back with?
[04:42] <lufthanza> dale__: yes
[04:42] <dale__> I think we found the problem.  your installation got clobbered it looks like.
[04:43] <lufthanza> dale__: stranger yet, is when I try to do /usr/bin/man/man , it says the file doesn't exist
[04:43] <lufthanza> rm it?
[04:43] <dale__> you're running feisty fawn?
[04:43] <pvd> cool
[04:43] <lufthanza> hardy heron
[04:43] <pvd> lufthanza
[04:44] <lufthanza> dist-upgraded from feisty, but i had man back then, i think it was possibly lost data from computer not shutting down properly
[04:44] <dale__> I think i'd backup my data and reinstall.  i've never seen an ls command return a bunch of question marks like that.
[04:44] <dale__> You might be able to save yourself with a livecd, but it sounds more serious than that.
[04:45] <lufthanza> dale__: hold on
[04:46] <lufthanza> dale__: ... I axed man
[04:46] <lufthanza> dale__: then i reinstalled manpages
[04:46] <lufthanza> but i got the ??????????????? again
[04:47] <dale__> apt-get purge manpages man-db : then reinstall it.
[04:48] <dale__> I think I'd make a backup before messing around too much though.
[04:48] <lufthanza> dale__: i've got all my home info backed up already thanks to an issue I had with my fs earlier
[04:49] <n3ksus> hi, im wondering why firefox has a grey box with a play logo in it for movies?
[04:49] <n3ksus> and how can i get rid of it
[04:50] <lufthanza> mplayer plugin perhaps?
[04:50] <dale__> lufthanza, you should do a ls -hal /usr/bin/lib/* | less and see if you get other strange results
[04:50] <dale__> make that ls -hal /usr/lib/*
[04:51] <dale__> make that ls -hal /usr/lib/* | less
[04:51] <dale__> :)
[04:51] <lufthanza> man-db won't remove
[04:51] <lufthanza> is there a way to make apt more verbose?
[04:52] <dale__> use the -V option
[04:52] <n3ksus> how do i fix it? coz it freezes firefox if i play stuff
[04:53] <lufthanza> n3ksus: just a sec
[04:53] <n3ksus> kk
[04:54] <lufthanza> n3ksus: try 'sudo apt-get remove mozilla-mplayer'
[04:55] <n3ksus> Package mozilla-mplayer is not installed, so not removed
[04:56] <dale__> n3ksus do you have the noscript extension installed?
[04:57] <lufthanza> dale__: finally got man-db to remove
[04:57] <dale__> what was your trick?
[04:58] <n3ksus> nope
[04:58] <n3ksus> i have media player plugin tho?
[04:58] <lufthanza> dale__: had to rm -r the /usr/bin/man
[04:58] <lufthanza> directory
[04:58] <dale__> wow, do you have man now?
[04:59] <lufthanza> dale__: reinstalling everything that was removed as we speak
[05:00] <dale__> you did a rm -r /usr/lib/man-db ???
[05:00] <lufthanza> no
[05:00] <lufthanza> rm -r /usr/bin/man
[05:00] <lufthanza> for some reason /usr/bin/man was a directory
[05:00] <dale__> oh wow, never considered that
[05:02] <dale__> actually, rm -r on a normal file will just remove the file
[05:03] <lufthanza> dale__: well, for some reason man was a directory that contained that weird man link and another directory called 'man1'
[05:03] <lufthanza> man = "What manual page do you want?"
[05:04] <dale__> it's working!!
[05:04] <n3ksus> i have media player plugin tho?
[05:04] <Tann> I just installed the ndiswrapper driver for my network card, but when I open firefox the computer completely freezes up. Anyone know whats goign on?
[05:06] <lufthanza> Tann: only firefox? what about konqueror?
[05:06] <Tann> oh. woops
[05:06] <Tann> I meant when I try to access the internet.
[05:06] <Tann> Pinging, web browsers, instant messagers. all that stuff
[05:07] <lufthanza> hmm
[05:08] <lufthanza> what does dmesg say?
[05:08] <lufthanza> try dmesg | grep ndis
[05:11] <Tann> lufthanza: http://pastebin.com/d174aacaf
[05:13] <lufthanza> Tann: ok, nothing there
[05:13] <lufthanza> Tann: try cat /var/log/messages | grep ndis
[05:13] <lufthanza> use sudo if you have to
[05:16] <Tann> http://pastebin.com/d5de7289b
[05:20] <lufthanza> Tann: sorry, nothing there either
[05:20] <lufthanza> Tann: was reading funny animal stories
[05:20] <lufthanza> Tann:  anyway, make sure you have the right driver installed
[05:20] <lufthanza> is it a broadcom chipset?
[05:21] <Tann> atheros actually
[05:21] <Tann> which surprised me because it didn't automatically work
[05:21] <Tann> like the other atheros devices I've used
[05:22] <lufthanza> hmm
[05:22] <lufthanza> my best suggestion is the madwifi drivers, or better, try to get one of the most recent kernel releases
[05:23] <lufthanza> atheros just released open source drivers for their cards
[05:24] <Tann> How exactally do the madwifi drivers work?
[05:25] <lufthanza> Tann: i'll send you the source for the drivers i use for my atheros card
[05:26] <Tann> ok
[05:28] <lufthanza> Tann: ok, sent it to you
[05:28] <Tann> It's still connecting to the download
[05:28] <Tann> failed
[05:29] <Tann> could you email it to flakeparadigm@gmail.com?
[05:29] <lufthanza> Tann: sure
[05:29] <Tann> thanks
[05:30] <chrisruls00> does anyone here know how to get vnc working over ssh?
[05:33] <snude> hi
[05:33] <snude> whats the latest version of kubuntu called?
[05:33] <lufthanza> Tann: done
[05:33] <lufthanza> Tann: use make and sudo make install to get it set up
[05:33] <Tann> ok. I guess I need to install madwifi first?
[05:33] <lufthanza> Tann: you'll need your kernel headers and build-essential first
[05:34] <lufthanza> Tann: no, that tar.gz has the source for madwifi
[05:34] <lufthanza> Tann: make and sudo make install will install it
[05:34] <Tann> ok. be back in a moment
[05:35] <lufthanza> Tann: are you running Hardy heron?
[05:36] <EagleScreen> use checkinstall in place of make install, for it, you need 'checkinstall' package
[05:36] <lufthanza> EagleScreen: never heard of that
[05:36] <Tann> lufthanza: yes
[05:36] <Tann> EagleScreen: Whats the advantage?
[05:37] <lufthanza> Tann: use 'sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-generic
[05:37] <EagleScreen> checkinstall installs it as .deb package, later you can cleany remove it from package manager
[05:37] <lufthanza> EagleScreen: thats very handy
[05:38] <lufthanza> you learn something new everyday
[05:38] <Tann> lufthanza: already got that done
[05:39] <lufthanza> kk
[05:40] <chrisruls00> does anyone here know how to get vnc working over ssh?
[05:51] <Tann> lufthanza: do you think it will work with an AR5416 chipset instead of the 5007 that is in the name?
[05:52] <lufthanza> Tann: i think so. mine is an ar242x
[05:53] <lufthanza> Tann: after you install it, restart your computer. It's hard to manually load the drivers.
[05:54] <Tann> pl
[05:54] <Tann> ok**
[06:01] <Tann> lufthanza: error with make
[06:01] <lufthanza> Tann: post it to pastebin
[06:01] <Tann> http://pastebin.com/m113de34c
[06:02] <lufthanza> Tann: you're using an rt kernel?
[06:03] <lufthanza> Tann: make sure you have linux-headers-rt installed
[06:03] <Tann> I didn't think I was using rt because the generic header was already installed
[06:04] <lufthanza> Tann: well, for some reason it's looking for the rt sources, so I would presume you have an rt kernel loaded at the moment
[06:05] <Tann> yeah (uname -r is usefull ;) )
[06:09] <joseph> what's a good dvd ripper?
[06:09] <joseph> preferably one with a good front-end
[06:10] <shepherd> hi i need help please
[06:10] <lufthanza> joseph: hmm
[06:10] <Tann> lufthanza: http://pastebin.com/d4b1d3deb
[06:11] <Tann> I have no clue what happened this time
[06:11] <shepherd> i just installed vmware, and i going to install xp, but vmware wont detect my cd rom drive, who should i discribe it as a device
[06:11] <shepherd> what is the location of a standard ubuntu cd drive?
[06:12] <lufthanza> joseph: maybe acidrip?
[06:12] <shepherd> #ubuntu
[06:12] <lufthanza> Tann: hmm
[06:12] <joseph> lufthanza: thanks
[06:13] <lufthanza> Tann: try the source off the site
[06:14] <lufthanza> Tann: mine is a special build that I need for my card
[06:14] <lufthanza> Tann: http://madwifi.org/
[06:17] <Tann> ok
[06:19] <lufthanza> Tann: sorry I can't help you more
[06:19] <Tann> its ok.
[06:20] <Tann> I'm hoping this will work.
[06:26] <lufthanza> i'm going to bed
[06:28] <juan> hr
[06:28] <juan> alguien habla español?
[06:29] <lufthanza|zzz> ubottu: espanol
[06:30] <juan> graias
[06:58] <marco> ciao
[06:59] <marco> !list
[07:09] <lain_wired> Hullo.
[07:13] <Tann> Hi
[07:34] <shepherd> #trivia
[08:08] <willwork4foo> Hello?
[08:11] <willwork4foo> I'm trying to research a cheap USB wifi adapter that will work "out-of-the-box" as much as possible on my WPA2 wifi network, on the latest version of Kubuntu.... does anyone have any recommendations?
[08:12] <Tann> Hi. I'm running ubuntu and I have a Linksys WPC100 laptop wireless adapter. Could anyone help me set it up? lspci says is Atheros 5416
[08:13] <Tann> willwork4foo: You probably want something that has an Atheros chipset.
[08:14] <geek> willwork4foo: ralink ones seem to work on the latest versions of kubuntu as well
[08:15] <willwork4foo> ok, thanks
[08:15] <Tann> I'm using a d-link PCI card in my desktop and it worked with no problem using the restricted drivers provided by kubuntu
[08:16] <willwork4foo> ok
[08:16] <willwork4foo> on WPA2?
[08:17] <Tann> yup
[08:18] <Tann> well, actually I'm not sure if its using WPA1 or 2 because my router is setup with both.
[08:18] <Tann> but I'm pretty sure wpa2 works
[08:19] <willwork4foo> what's your card?
[08:19] <Tann> D-link WDA-1320
[08:30] <willwork4foo> thanks! I'll check that one out!!!
[08:48] <ocs> hi. is there a desktop video capture software (like camtasia) for linux ?
[08:59] <favro> !info xvidcap | ocs
[09:01] <ocs> thnks favro
[09:01] <favro> np :)
[09:05] <ocs> favro: unfortunately it crashes as soon as I try to record. is there any alternative ?
[09:06] <favro> !info istanbul
[09:06] <favro> but I think it is a gnome app
[09:12] <ocs> favro: i don't have it in my repo list
[09:13] <favro> ocs: have you enabled the universe repo?
[09:14] <ocs> favro: no, you're right. sorry for the stupid question
[09:14] <favro> hehe
[09:14] <favro> :)
[09:14] <favro> been there done that...
[09:20] <ocs> favro, unfortunately it works really bad...
[09:22] <favro> ocs: is it the apps or your vid card driver?
[09:23] <ocs> favro, the apps
[09:24] <favro> ocs: xvidcap is supposed to work fine - if you run it from konsole are there errors reported?
[09:26] <ocs> favro, don't have time to check, now... thnks for your support. i'll try later
[09:26] <favro> k
[09:29] <eddiewould> Hey all :)
[09:31] <eddiewould> Can anyone help me with an issue I'm having?
[09:33] <lain_wired> eddiewould: no asking to ask, but always just asking.
[09:34]  * eddiewould is confused
[09:35] <lain_wired> Oh dear.
[09:35] <lain_wired> eddiewould: ask your question, but don't ask permission to ask.
[09:36] <eddiewould> Ok, sorry, Thought that was the usual IRC ettiquite
[09:36] <eddiewould> *sp
[09:36] <lain_wired> Because if we say we can help, but we don't know what the issue is, then we can't, it's kinda lame.
[09:36] <lain_wired> Nope, it's rather the opposite.
[09:36] <lain_wired> But saying hi is always lovely. =]
[09:36] <eddiewould> Ok I'm running a mungrel Kubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron - 2.6.27 kernel and KDE4.1
[09:36] <eddiewould> Anyway, recently I've somehow broken something
[09:37] <eddiewould> I think either by updating packages or installing something
[09:38] <squid0>  hi there. my room-mate has a wpa-psk wireless router, which I've managed to connect to just fine in the past (kubuntu, using knetworkmanager on top of NetworkManager). However, lately he's set it as hidden, and I can't connect.... I have output from logs: http://pastebin.com/m69b32e48
[09:39]  * eddiewould is back
[09:39] <eddiewould> An unreleated problem my KDE Keeps logging me out :(
[09:39] <lain_wired> eddiewould: oh, that's never good. You might find it better to backup all your data and reinstall.
[09:39] <lain_wired> Issues like that are a hell to resolve.
[09:39] <eddiewould> lain_wired:  I haven't told you what my problem is yet :P
[09:39] <lain_wired> Oh.
[09:40] <lain_wired> Oh noes. XD
[09:40] <eddiewould> So the problem is manifesting itself in more than one way - I think.
[09:40] <favro> I thought kde logging you out would be a prob... :)
[09:40] <favro> he went
[09:42] <lain_wired> he got logged out, clearly.
[09:43] <lain_wired> Why is he taking so fucking long to tell us what's wrong?
[09:43] <lain_wired> And he really should just reinstall.
[10:19] <eddiewould> Hi all, - I'm running Kubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04 w/ 2.6.27 kernel + KDE4.1... I've got a couple of problems - 1) When I choose "Shutdown" or "Restart" from KLaunch menu, all I can do is log-off (previously it would let me shutdown/restart)
[10:20] <eddiewould> 2) kpowersave won't let me suspend to ram/hibernate any more (options are grayed out) - they used to work.
[10:20] <eddiewould> I think these are both permissions issues.. any ideas?
[10:21] <sergiu> eddiewould: try making sudo apt-get install sysvinit
[10:22] <eddiewould> sergiu: What does that do?
[10:22] <joerack> Hello
[10:22] <sergiu> eddiewould: once it solved me a simmilar problem
[10:22] <joerack> I'm a ubuntu user. May I ask at what stat Kde 4.x is at?
[10:22] <joerack> stat
[10:22] <joerack> state*
[10:23] <favro> !kde4
[10:23] <sergiu> eddiewould: try reading http://uhacc.org/LDP/LDP/lfs/5.0/html/appendixa/sysvinit.html
[10:24] <eddiewould> sergiu: Ok, will try.
[10:24] <sergiu> eddiewould: you can try in a terminal: "sudo apt-get purge sysvinit && sudo apt-get install sysvinit"
[10:25] <joerack> ubottu: but on a personal opinion, is kde 4.x stable?
[10:25] <eddiewould> joerack: KDE4.1 is more stable for me than 4.0 was
[10:25] <eddiewould> (which I didn't expect)
[10:26] <sergiu> joerack: but less stable than kde 3.5*
[10:26] <joerack> that's what I wanted to hear
[10:26] <eddiewould> sergiu: init: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl
[10:26] <eddiewould> Any ideas?
[10:26] <joerack> so It's still not ready for 3.5 replacement
[10:28] <sergiu> eddiewould: I'm reading that "reboot -f" helps
[10:28] <sergiu> it will reboot your computer
[10:28] <sergiu> eddiewould: I've read it here http://thenthdoctor.blogspot.com/2007/03/timeout-openingwriting-control-channel.html
[10:31] <eddiewould> Hey all,
[10:36] <sergiu> eddiewould: did it help you?
[10:36] <eddiewould> sergiu: Nope :(
[10:36] <eddiewould> But I'm not sure if it worked properly
[10:37] <eddiewould> Thanks for your help though
[10:38] <eddiewould> I think it may be a group issue... Can you tell me what groups i should belong to?
[10:38] <eddiewould> eddie@eddie-laptop:~$ groups
[10:38] <eddiewould> eddie adm uucp dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner lpadmin admin netdev
[10:39] <sergiu> eddiewuld: everithing is ok with groups
[10:39] <eddiewould> hmmm ok :(
[10:39] <eddiewould> do I need an entry in sudoers?
[10:40] <eddiewould> (my sudoers is empty)
[10:40] <sergiu> eddiewould: you still get logged out?
[10:40] <eddiewould> hmm no the logging out thing seems to have gone away...*touches wood*
[10:41] <sergiu> eddiewould: so it seems your problem got solved :)
[10:41] <eddiewould> Which problem? :)
[10:42] <sergiu> eddiewould: with beeing kikked from kde.
[10:42] <eddiewould> Yes - that one seems to be gone.
[10:42] <eddiewould> Sorry, I thought the sysinit thing was for my other problem
[10:42] <eddiewould> But thanks for fixing the logging out problem!
[10:43] <sergiu> now you can shutdown your computer by typing "sudo shutdown -h now" in a terminal.
[10:43] <eddiewould> but but but... I could do that before
[10:43] <eddiewould> I shouldn't have to type sudo should I?
[10:44] <sergiu> generally, I need it also, I'm not sure about you.
[10:48] <eddiewould> When I run kpowersave as myself (without sudo) I'm getting the following error (as well as other warnings and errors): ERROR: Could not set CPU Freq, this not the needed privileges.
[10:49] <sergiu> eddiewould: so, run it with sudo.
[10:49] <eddiewould> but I didn't have to before!
[10:50] <eddiewould> I've broken something. And I want to un-break it
[10:50] <joerack> can I install kde on ubuntu?
[10:50] <geek> joerack: yes
[10:50] <joerack> using wubi?
[10:50] <abev66_> joerack yep
[10:50] <geek> sure
[10:50] <joerack> I mean:   have windows + wubi/ubuntu + wubu/kubuntu
[10:51] <sergiu> joerack:  "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[10:51] <joerack> no, you don't understand: I would like to have kubuntu under wubi indipendent from my wubi/ubuntu
[10:52] <joerack> in a was I need to access grub to access kde, not simply logoff/on
[10:53] <favro> a dual boot in a wubi install?
[10:53] <joerack> exactly
[10:53] <joerack> in a way it appears:   Windows / Ubuntu / Kubuntu
[10:54] <favro> you'd need to read wubi's website to see if that's supported - it's not something many would want afaik
[10:55] <joerack> ok
[10:56] <joerack> so I'll remove wubi/ubuntu from my 2nd pc and replace with kubuntu
[10:56] <joerack> that should work
[10:56] <favro> you could install kubuntu-desktop then remove ubuntu
[10:57] <favro> !purekde
[10:57] <joerack> Oh I don't want that- I love my gnome
[10:58] <geek> joerack: why not run one of them in a VM?
[10:59] <joerack> nope- must be native
[11:00] <joerack> I'm still fighting against windows necessity... but I WILL win
[11:01] <geek> lol
[11:01]  * geek started weaning himself off windows through VMs ;p
[11:02] <joerack> linux day in italy next month
[11:15]  * SkEmO yawns and goes to sleep, nite!
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:18] <soulsurfer69> hello
[12:20] <ghostcube> hi
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> quiet in here
[12:22] <yigit> Hi I need to ask a question
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> !ask | yigit
[12:23] <yigit> On 64 bit editions of kubuntu it writes amd64, but I can use them on my intel 64 bit processor, am I right?
[12:23] <favro> yep
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> yes
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> its just able to address 64bit cpus and stuff
[12:24] <soulsurfer69> Hi, I'm trying to get to get SKIM to work with korean (hangul) but even after following all the instructions I could find, it's still not working. Does anyone have experience with skim or scim?
[12:25] <soulsurfer69> why isn't there an .xinitrc in the  user's home directory?
[12:26] <favro> there's nothing wrong with making one
[12:26] <rareearth>  soulsurfer69 look for .xsession
[12:27] <soulsurfer69> in the home directory?
[12:27] <rareearth> yes
[12:27] <soulsurfer69> there is just .xsession-errors
[12:27] <ghostcube> locate .xinitrc isnt showing anything ?
[12:28] <soulsurfer69> it doesn't return any results
[12:28] <soulsurfer69> by the way I tried typing export XMODIFIERS="@im=SCIM" and then kate to use scim but it gave me the error QInputContext: no input method context available
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> soulsurfer69: sudo find / -name .xinitrc
[12:29] <soulsurfer69> I'm using 8.04 with kde 3.5.9 I believe
[12:30] <soulsurfer69> hmm
[12:30] <soulsurfer69> the only .xinitrc that it found was in my home directory which I just created a bit ago
[12:30] <rareearth> I've no idea about SCIM, what do you need .xinitrc for?
[12:30]  * dr_willis wonders what the original problem was
[12:31] <soulsurfer69> to add some export commands
[12:31] <dr_willis> could put them in your .bash_profile
[12:31] <soulsurfer69> I'm trying to get scim or skim to work so I can type in korean
[12:31] <soulsurfer69> would that work for the whole Xwindows session though dr_willis?
[12:31] <dr_willis> .xinitrc only gets ran if you start X with 'startx' or use one of the special login sessions
[12:32] <soulsurfer69> oh ok
[12:32] <dr_willis> it should be get exported to all apps
[12:32] <dr_willis> try it and see I guess. :)
[12:32] <soulsurfer69> but that isn't used using kdm?
[12:32] <dr_willis> Huh?
[12:33] <soulsurfer69> why wouldn't it be using startx?
[12:33] <dr_willis> kdm/gdm have a special 'session' i recall that runs .xinitrc, or .xsession to  allow you to totally 'customize' your X
[12:33] <favro> .bash_profile is used every time you login
[12:33] <dr_willis> startx also reads the .xinitrc
[12:33] <soulsurfer69> ok
[12:33] <dr_willis> .bash_profile is read/parses/ran by LOGIN shells. :) One of which gets started when you login via kdm/gdm
[12:34] <soulsurfer69> ok
[12:34] <soulsurfer69> thanks. I guess I'll have to keep digging about the locale stuff so I can figure out how to run the im engine
[12:35] <dr_willis> KDE also has the autostart stuff.. but i guess it depends on exactly what you are doing. :)
[12:35] <dr_willis> !autostart
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> wow thats a popintless app
[12:37] <soulsurfer69> yeah. I don't think it's the automatically starting part that's the problem. I can't even seem to make it work temporarily
[12:37] <dr_willis> open a term. set the variables, run the app as a test
[12:38] <dr_willis> Ive never used scim or skim,  - i recall having to disalbe it befor. :)
[12:39] <soulsurfer69> Cool
[12:39] <soulsurfer69> it worked
[12:40] <soulsurfer69> when I just ran the export commands and then something after it. so I guess it is an issue of .xinitrc not being run
[12:40] <dr_willis> make a script that sets the variables and runs the app. :) then autostart that script.. perhaps. is one way also..
[12:40] <dr_willis> .xinitrc will NOT get ran when you login to kde/gnome/whatever from KDM.
[12:41] <soulsurfer69> you said .bash_profile would run too though right?
[12:41] <dr_willis> it will ONLY get ran if you use the 'startx' command, or that 'custome' kdm session I recall.
[12:41] <dr_willis> .bash_profile gets ran by login shells..  .bashrc gets ran by every shell
[12:41] <dr_willis> well every bash shell. :)
[12:41] <soulsurfer69> oh ok. how can I make it just run at the start?  just an Autostart script?
[12:41] <soulsurfer69> there must be a better way
[12:42] <soulsurfer69> like .xinitrc but for kde
[12:42] <dr_willis> Thats about as better as it can get...
[12:42] <dr_willis> you can put the commands in a file and put it in your kde autostart dir.. thats simpiler then worrying about .xinitrc
[12:42] <dr_willis> 'better' dosent figure into it at all. :)
[12:43] <soulsurfer69> hehe
[12:43] <soulsurfer69> ok
[12:43] <soulsurfer69> more standard way
[12:43] <soulsurfer69> how about that?
[12:43] <dr_willis> Or you could check out the kde session management stuff
[12:43] <dr_willis> KDE has the Autostart dir as its standard.
[12:43] <dr_willis> Gnome has a session manager thing..
[12:43] <dr_willis> some other desktops/window managers have their own autostart stuff.
[12:43] <soulsurfer69> huh ok
[12:45] <soulsurfer69> but I just move the script right into Autostart?
[12:45] <soulsurfer69> or a subdirectory?
[12:45] <dr_willis> !autostart
[12:45] <dr_willis> a link, or a copy.
[12:45] <gundam_rx78nt1> ok, in gutsy, I can pop a dvd into any of the 2 drives I have in my machine and it would be detected and played by kaffeine.  After I upgraded, I can't play a dvd in either unless I go and manually change the /dev/<drive> how can I get this to be automatically like in Gutsy?
[12:46] <dr_willis> it can be a link to a executable, or a executable script. or even a Somthing.desktop file
[12:46] <soulsurfer69> ok cool
[12:47] <soulsurfer69> ok I'll try that. I'm going to restart kde to test it out :)
[12:47] <soulsurfer69> thanks
[12:49] <soulsurfer69> awesome it worked. thanks :)
[12:50] <dr_willis> Linux FUNdamentals!
[12:50] <mefisto__> gundam_rx78nt1: manually change the /dev/<drive> ??? where do you do that change?
[12:51] <dr_willis> clarify the whole problem perhaps?
[12:51] <gundam_rx78nt1> I have to go into settings, xine engine parameters
[12:51] <gundam_rx78nt1> it would also happen with gstreamer engine
[12:51] <dr_willis> The /media links (and fstab entries) set the location of the cd's It could be that a normal install has some different setup then a system with 2 optical drives
[12:52] <dr_willis> i HATE cd/dvd autorunning stuff.. so i disable it :)
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: me too, I also disable automountin of usb stuffs
[12:54] <dr_willis> I dont mind the mounting.. but when i am getting ready to burn a dvd.. and i pop in a blank.. and i allready have k3b open ... i dont need the app asking me what to do again..
[12:54] <shane> greetings
[12:55] <mefisto__> dr_willis: I actually like that, because it confirms that the disk is loaded ready to go
[12:56] <dr_willis> mefisto__,  i belive the 'burn' button is ghosted.. untill its ready.. :)  so its redundant.
[12:57] <dr_willis> but theres other issues with 'auto running stuff' also.. but Im too tired to go into it. :) and its somewhat obscure situations
[12:57] <mefisto__> redundancy is not necessarily a bad thing
[13:00] <dr_willis> like speed bumps in front of a stop sign...
[13:01] <dr_willis> of course windows wants to default to 'speed up your pc' as the default action for all these usb/media cards I use...
[13:01] <dr_willis> Lets use the thing that people would use the LEAST as the first item in the list. :)
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: just disable those too ;)
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> mind youo windows needs all the speeding up it can get
[13:02] <dr_willis> for fun.. have a setup/office where like 8 users all vnc to the linux box running kde.. then pop in a cd.. all 8 users get a 'what to do with cd' dialog. :)
[13:04] <dr_willis> Well its bed time here - Night all....
[13:16] <afeijo> !skype
[13:17] <afeijo> !googledesktop
[13:17] <afeijo> !google-desktop
[13:17] <afeijo> hmm
[13:18] <afeijo> cant I use Skype in my Kopete?
[13:18] <rgreening> !search google
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> !cubuntu
[13:19] <afeijo> !picasa
[13:19] <afeijo> how to install a .deb?
[13:20] <favro> dpkg -i file.deb
[13:20] <favro> or doubleclick it
[13:20] <afeijo> thanks
[13:20] <afeijo> double click here open Ark and does nothing
[13:21] <favro> k
[13:21] <rgreening> afeijo: install gdebi-kde
[13:21] <afeijo> 57 mb? wow :)
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: what is the deb file you have?
[13:22] <afeijo> for google desktop
[13:24] <afeijo> I have only adept kde3 here, its a fresh kde4 8.04 machine
[13:24] <afeijo> what should I use to install those stuff like picasa and desktop after I update my apt-get?
[13:25] <afeijo> damn, I have picasa installed thru apt-get, I do a locate picasa, it find nothing!
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[13:27] <favro> sudo updatedb && locate picasa
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: change the path to point to the deb file to install
[13:28] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: hey
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> hey eagles0513875
[13:29] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: maybe u can help me
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: ask the room, someone may helpl
[13:30] <afeijo> ActionParsnip: I have it installed, but I cant find how to start it lol
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/09/03/how-to-install-google-desktop-on-ubuntu/
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: im guessing itll say in there
[13:31] <eagles0513875> my windows vista pc isnt seeing my samba share but on my sisters xp box it sees it just need to tweak permissions i dont have a firewall on my vista laptop but my server is on the dmz. i have samba ports 139 and 445 which i saw were open with nmap  and forwarded them
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: http://ma65p.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/screenshot.png
[13:33] <afeijo> my laucher is different
[13:33] <afeijo> oh, I think I found it
[13:34] <afeijo> on my bottom toolbar, I click on blue K, type google, and a lot of icons that I dont know where is hidden shows up
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: ive never used it so i cant help any further, i guess websearching is your next call
[13:36] <afeijo> ActionParsnip: but I found it :)
[13:36] <afeijo> how did you enabled that top toolbar of yours?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: i just found that online. Id suggest reversing what you have done so far and using that guide i sent you
[13:49] <afeijo> now its time for skype, I downloaded .deb file for ubuntu 7, when I try to install, it says wrong archteture i306
[13:49] <afeijo> *i386
[13:51] <Skry> sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture skype.deb
[13:52] <afeijo> Thanks Skry ;)
[13:54] <Skry> afeijo, you really should read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype ;)
[14:01] <lettfeti> Hi i installed kde via adept packet manager. Am now unable to login on GNOME. I'm browsing forums and can't find a similar problem. When i login to GNOME now i basically get an empty screen, anyone know how to fix? Please note that i am relatively new to unix based systems. Also i do not want to remove kde
[14:02] <rgreening> lettfeti: Hardy or Intrepid? ANd did you change the default display manager when prompted (and what did you select)
[14:04] <lettfeti> Hardy, when first i selected kde i said just for this session, then i just selected GNOME and made that default but all i got was an orange screen with no icons or anything viewable
[14:06] <favro> lettfeti: at the orange screen does alt+F2 work?  try metacity --replace
[14:07] <lettfeti> i'll write that down and try. Also i have one more little nuisance i'd like to ask about.. the kde wallet thing
[14:07] <lettfeti> i'm on wireless and i'd rather not want to type in the password for the wallet each time i connect to the network
[14:09] <lettfeti> Lastly, how do i remove the system peep?
[14:10] <KRF> lettfeti, you have to remove some kernel module, but i dont know which one :p
[14:10] <KRF> lettfeti, for kwallet: enter an empty password
[14:11] <KRF> lettfeti, `sudo modprobe -r pcrspkr` should solve that beep problem
[14:12] <KRF> lettfeti, `sudo modprobe -r pcspkr` should solve that beep problem
[14:12] <lettfeti> thanks
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[14:15] <_2> ok i can understand "pcmcia and powernowd" not working right if /sys is not mounted http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3245  but why is standard networking affected ?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> _2: why are you logged in asroot?
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> _2: i guess its to do with /sys/bus/pci/devices
[14:20] <_2> ActionParsnip not related. nor relevant
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> id imagine the network card is pci or onboard?
[14:20] <_2> no
[14:21] <_2> 0000:02:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[14:21] <hubatka> hi there, for some reason I have no audio. Using intel hardware - http://paste.ubuntu.com/52091/
[14:22] <_2> !intelhda
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> hubatka: http://www.omgili.com/newsgroups/linux/debian/laptop/9XitQ-1wL-13gated-atbofhit.html&q=%22Intel+Corporation%22 may help too
[14:23] <hubatka> _2: it's an old computer.... so shouldn't it be auto-recognized?
 _2: i guess its to do with /sys/bus/pci/devices <<< if it is, where is it being called ?
[14:24] <_2> hubatka old ?
[14:24] <thale__> 'sup
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> hubatka: just because its old doesnt mean its automaticaly compatible
[14:25] <hubatka> _2: it's an old compaq computer...
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> _2: im just reading the code
[14:25] <hubatka> ActionParsnip: I guess you're right
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> _2: you may want to ask in #gentoo as they will know whats what at that level
[14:25] <_2> hubatka how old ?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> hubatka: looks like you need some modules installing
[14:29] <_-Jay-__> !firewall | _-Jay-__
[14:30] <_2> ActionParsnip i searched all of /etc   and i'm not seeing anything that should cause /sys to affect standard networking    however if /sys is not mounted at boot time eth* is not recognized    and that "bothers" me.
[14:30] <_2> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3249
[14:31] <_2> !ufw | _-Jay-__
[14:31] <_2> really!
[14:33] <thale__> anyone know if I can configure the resolver to try multiple servers for a name before it fails?
[14:33] <_2> thale__ yes
[14:33] <thale__> any ideas how
[14:34] <thale__> I don't mean just adding multiple nameserver lines in the resolv.conf
[14:34] <thale__> but, when there are multiple lines and one returns that it can't find the name, it then trys the other
[14:35] <_2> not sure how
[14:53] <coreymon77> hi guys
[14:59] <coreymon77> dead channel!
[15:06] <gorre> ello
[15:08] <gorre> hi sparkling
[15:09] <gorre> hi dario
[15:23] <tanwei> hello
[15:23] <Freku> hi
[15:24] <tanwei> kubuntu couldn't recongize my tv card
[15:25] <tanwei> lsusb show :Bus 002 Device 002: ID eb1a:50a6 eMPIA Technology, Inc.
[15:26] <tanwei> kernel is 2.6.27-4
[15:26] <afeijo> I'm trying to use mount.ntfs, its says: "failed to access volume '//server/share'"
[15:27] <afeijo> I'm sure the path is correct
[15:27] <tanwei> else?
[15:34] <gtianp> what's this
[15:34] <gtianp> ?
[15:34] <gtianp> --help
[15:35] <gtianp> anyone here or something
[15:39] <gtianp> hi,what's this
[15:51] <trcrysis> slm
[15:51] <trcrysis> Türkçe bilen varmı?
[15:52] <Pici> !tr | trcrysis
[15:54] <n3ksus> hey, when i try and watch a vid on firefox, it has a box where the vid is and has a play button in the middle of it. and when i click it the file starts 2 play but it stops n firefox tends to kinda not work right
[15:59] <comedit> If your soundcard seams not to be in alsa is there a way to still have sound
[16:08] <n3ksus> hey, when i try and watch a vid on firefox, it has a box where the vid is and has a play button in the middle of it. and when i click it the file starts 2 play but it stops n firefox tends to kinda not work right
[16:37] <no1peacedragon> wow this place is busy, yet not a thing being said
[16:38] <avihayb> ok, I'll say something
[16:38] <no1peacedragon> thats worked :p
[16:38] <avihayb> for some reason, it seems like something is blocking port 80 on this computer
[16:39] <avihayb> it's runing kubuntu
[16:39] <avihayb> I havn't installed new packages in a while
[16:39] <no1peacedragon> you already checked firewalls?
[16:40] <n3ksus> hey, when i try and watch a vid on firefox, it has a box where the vid is and has a play button in the middle of it. and when i click it the file starts 2 play but it stops n firefox tends to kinda not work right
[16:40] <avihayb> I havn't set any firewall
[16:40] <avihayb> I'm using a router, and I have another computer that connects just fine
[16:42] <no1peacedragon> I hope someone else has the answer I fixed my firewalls and then everything worked for me just fine
[16:42] <Denise> avahi
[16:42] <Denise> invade me
[16:42] <no1peacedragon> hello denise
[16:42] <Denise> hello
[16:43] <no1peacedragon> do you ever sleep?
[16:43] <Denise> yes why
[16:43] <geek> sleep? what is sleep ;p
[16:44] <no1peacedragon> cuz you always on when I peek in even with a different name like last night
[16:44] <avihayb> well, I have some connectivity on port 80, but it's like there is a delay, thats so long, that it makes my browsers thing that  the page load is too long
[16:44] <Denise> what name u got last night
[16:44] <avihayb> thing->think
[16:44] <no1peacedragon> david
[16:44] <n3ksus> hey, when i try and watch a vid on firefox, it has a box where the vid is and has a play button in the middle of it. and when i click it the file starts 2 play but it stops n firefox tends to kinda not work right
[16:44] <Denise> rofl
[16:45] <Denise> how come it doesnt surprise me
[16:45] <Denise> you have ur style
[16:45] <Denise> david
[16:45] <avihayb> n3ksus: normal videos or flash videos?
[16:45] <no1peacedragon> ;P
[16:46] <Denise> when u are in good mood
[16:46] <no1peacedragon> I always in a good mood remeber :always happy
[16:47] <Denise> ah
[16:47] <Denise> yes
[16:47] <Denise> alwasy happy
[16:47] <Denise> lucky you
[16:47] <n3ksus> i wouldnt have a clue, they just on sites for like trailers of tv shows n stuff
[16:47] <avihayb> go to youtube, see if one of the vids there shows up right
[16:48] <no1peacedragon> oh sh*t neighbors house on fire bbl
[16:48] <Denise> what a coincidence
[16:48] <Denise> david
[16:48] <avihayb> LOL
[16:48] <Denise> oh
[16:49] <Denise> right or left?
[16:49] <n3ksus> dont work
[16:49] <avihayb> "no1peacedragon has left this server", so I guess it's left
[16:50] <avihayb> sec
[16:50] <Denise> lol
[16:50] <Denise> I guess too
[16:51] <avihayb> n3ksus: try installing the package flashplugin-nonfree
[16:52] <avihayb> in terminal: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[16:52] <avihayb> if it tells you it's installed, try removeing it and installing. if it tells you it can't find the plugin, tell me
[16:53] <avihayb> plugin->package
[16:54] <n3ksus> flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.
[16:54] <n3ksus> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[16:54] <n3ksus>   libboost-thread1.34.1 libboost-date-time1.34.1
[16:54] <n3ksus> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[16:54] <ahmed2255> hi guys, do you know how to change the icons in the places menu?
[16:55] <avihayb> n3ksus: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[16:55] <avihayb> then apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[16:55] <n3ksus> done that allready
[16:56] <avihayb> restart firefox
[16:56] <avihayb> try youtube again
[16:56] <n3ksus> doing that too :p
[16:56] <n3ksus> same thing
[16:57] <avihayb> well, you can try doing sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree
[16:57] <avihayb> and then reinstalling
[16:58] <avihayb> other then that, I'm lost too. you can try opening them in konqurer, it's already installd on your kubuntu anyway
[16:58] <ahmed2255> can anyone help me please? i searched all over the net for a solution and couldn't find anything. i would like to change the icons of the folders in the places menu
[16:58] <n3ksus> lol guess i'll need to :p
[17:00] <Jucato> ahmed2255: Kubuntu doesn't have a "Places" menu. Ubuntu does. you might be asking in the wrong channel
[17:00] <avihayb> ahmed2255: the places menu?
[17:00] <Jucato> (unless you are referring to some other "Places" thing)
[17:00] <ahmed2255> Jucato, thanks.. i'll check out ubuntu channel now... sorry !
[17:01] <Jucato> ahmed2255: just making sure. you mean the Places menu at the top panel, right?
[17:01] <ahmed2255> Jucato, yes
[17:01] <Jucato> right. that's GNOME. #ubuntu then :)
[17:01] <ahmed2255> thanks Jucato
[17:02] <CQ> hello... I want to use kpowersave on my laptop, but power manager is still installed... I looked at the wikis, but didn't see any clear instructions for changing over, and there are no conflicts listed in the package
[17:02] <CQ> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPowersave is the last info I found
[17:03] <avihayb> how do I ask the bot for some info about kpowersave?
[17:03] <faileas> !kpowersave
[17:03] <faileas> nope, it dosen't know ;p
[17:04] <n3ksus> lol konquerer dont work either just a grey box :p
[17:06] <CQ> no other ideas?
[17:06] <bbits> hi chaps, i am having trouble with fonts on hardy when running at 1360x768 resolution. App fonts seem to be really tiny. Any ideas ?
[17:06] <ubunturos> Kubuntu 8.10 might be scheduled for release next month, but is it good to install Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE3 and update it to 8.10 which probably will come (default) with KDE4.1 ?
[17:07] <CQ> I tried the kde4 packages, it doesn't convert desktop settings over for me and periodically kills my working xorg.conf ...
[17:08] <bbits> ubunturos> isnt there a link on the site for upgrade paths ?
[17:08] <Tann> Thats odd. I've been using kde4 for a while and had no problems.
[17:08] <bbits> CQ> hasnt xorg become "smarter" at detecting your hardware ?
[17:09] <CQ> it may try, but whatever it detects, I end up with a text login screen until I put the old xorg.conf back
[17:09] <stdin> ubunturos: it's up to you, there should be no problem upgrading to 8.10 from 8.04 (or KDE 3 -> KDE 4)
[17:09] <ubunturos> stdin: hmm
[17:09] <bbits> anyone know anything about my fonts issue ?
[17:10] <jjinx1272006> [12:07] [DCOP] Error: You need the perl SOAP::Lite module installed.<--- how do i get this in linux any1?
[17:10] <Pici> jjinx1272006: Install the libsoap-lite-perl package.
[17:11] <jjinx1272006> what would i type in a terminal to get that?
[17:11] <Tann> jjinx1272006: sudo apt-get install libsoap-lite-perl package
[17:11] <Tann> er, without the package at the end
[17:11] <jjinx1272006> thx im sorta a noob
[17:11] <Tann> sudo apt-get install libsoap-lite-perl
[17:11] <jjinx1272006> ok sweet thx
[17:12] <Tann> yeah, no problem.
[17:12] <sushil> jkjlk
[17:12] <jjinx1272006> do i have to restart my client first?
[17:13] <jjinx1272006> im using konversation  and i get that error message when i type /exec google <whatever>
[17:13] <Tann> jjinx1272006: I'm not sure what you mean by that
[17:14] <jjinx1272006> [12:13] [DCOP] Error: You need the perl SOAP::Lite module installed.
[17:14] <jjinx1272006> ./exec google linux
[17:14] <Tann> oh. I'm not sure, but if it doesn't work instantly, they restart it.
[17:15] <jjinx1272006> ahh ok
[17:15] <Tann> then instead of they
[17:15] <jjinx1272006> lol
[17:16] <jjinx1272006> ok it looks like its done
[17:16] <eee> do kubuntu have wirless adapter software?
[17:16] <Tann> eee: Yes
[17:16] <jjinx1272006> [12:16] [DCOP] Error: ~/.googlekey doesn't exist!
[17:16] <jjinx1272006> [12:16] [DCOP] Error: Get a key from http://api.google.com/createkey and put the key in ~/.googlekey
[17:16] <jjinx1272006> wth
[17:16] <eee> ???
[17:16] <eee> how?
[17:16] <bbits> are you trying to do some google hacking ?
[17:17] <jjinx1272006> when i do /exec google -term-
[17:17] <jjinx1272006> no its a feat with my irc client
[17:17] <Tann> eee: alot of cards have restricted drivers that come with kubuntu.
[17:17] <eee> i don not! i ues Acer
[17:17] <Tann> well, not with kubuntu but are available for it.
[17:17] <jjinx1272006> ~/googlekey
[17:18] <bbits> eee> my laptop has an wireless intel chipset that just worked
[17:18] <eee> but mine is IN in the Computer!
[17:18] <bbits> and ?
[17:18] <eee> how to fix it?
[17:18] <bbits> define you problem more clearly
[17:19] <eee> ok
[17:19] <Tann> I have a Linksys WPC100 laptop wireless adapter. Could anyone help me set it up? lspci says its atheros 5416.
[17:19] <eee> i can not get on wirless internett!
[17:20] <eee> and i cn not active it from my hotkey
[17:20] <bbits> eee> does your system detect your card ? is it in lspci ?
[17:20] <eee> yes it does
[17:20] <bbits> eee> is your card in the supported hardware list ?
[17:21] <eee> wher can i find it (the list)?
[17:21] <bbits> eee> have you tested on an un-ecrypted network ?
[17:21] <eee> i can't active my hardware card
[17:21] <bbits> eee> google (k)ubuntu supported hardwar
[17:21] <eee> ok
[17:23] <chimori> salut
[17:25] <jjinx1272006>  Google Search Script <--- can someone help me out with this?
[17:26] <jjinx1272006> every time i use /google it says
[17:26] <jjinx1272006> [12:23] [DCOP] Error: ~/.googlekey doesn't exist!
[17:26] <jjinx1272006> [12:23] [DCOP] Error: Get a key from http://api.google.com/createkey and put the key in ~/.googlekey
[17:28] <bbits> jjinx> are you trying to use the googl api ?
[17:28] <jjinx1272006> i guess
[17:28] <tzd> hi guys. Just reinstalled kubuntu 8.04 and wanted to delete a few former items in kdeinit. Where do i find kdeinit please?
[17:28] <jjinx1272006> it keeps telling me to make a key
[17:28] <bbits> what is giving you this message ?
[17:29] <jjinx1272006> ./exec google
[17:29] <bbits> jjinx> in what ?
[17:29] <jjinx1272006> konversation
[17:30] <bbits> jjinx> ah i see i havent used that. but it sounds like a key is missing and you need to get it from google
[17:30] <jjinx1272006> everytime i go to the link it takes me elsewhere
[17:30] <Pici> jjinx1272006: Google no longer requires API keys to use their services, that script is most likely out of date.
[17:30] <bbits> jjinx> perhaps you can turn the feature off that needs it
[17:31] <jjinx1272006> hmm
[17:31] <bbits> jjnix> i like the irssi client
[17:31] <jjinx1272006> Qt: 3.3.8b
[17:31] <jjinx1272006> KDE: 3.5.9
[17:31] <jjinx1272006> kde-config: 1.0
[17:32] <jjinx1272006> that is the version im running
[17:32] <jjinx1272006> bbits: is there a link for irssi?
[17:33] <stdin> jjinx1272006: try http://code.google.com/apis/base/signup.html
[17:33] <bbits> jjin> i got it with apt-get, if that's your question
[17:34] <bbits> anyone know why this link keeps killing firefox ? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-October/126426.html
[17:35] <jjinx1272006> ok i got the key now where do i put it?
[17:35] <stdin> jjinx1272006: ~/.googlekey
[17:35] <jjinx1272006> ~/.googlekey
[17:35] <jjinx1272006> im not used to linux where is that folder at?
[17:36] <bbits> jjin> that could be a folder or a file name
[17:36] <stdin> '~/' is your home directory
[17:36] <bbits> ~ is home
[17:36] <jjinx1272006> k
[17:36] <bbits> /home/me == ~/
[17:36] <stdin> jjinx1272006: just open kate, paste the key in and save as "~/.googlekey"
[17:37] <jjinx1272006> as a text document?
[17:37] <bbits> yep
[17:41] <jjinx1272006> ok so it should be in the home folder then right?
[17:42] <stdin> jjinx1272006: if you put "~/.googlekey" in the save dialog it'll save to /home/<you>/.googlekey
[17:42] <jjinx1272006> ok so do i look for the folder named /.googlekey then put the key in there?
[17:43] <stdin> no, ".googlekey" is the filename
[17:44] <younthk> today ,i used gparted to formate my mp3,some error happened,and the system,gparted ,even vista(i use ubuntu),can never read it again,the light is still shinning. i guess the mp3 is still ok ,so how can i make it all right? can anyone help ?
[17:45] <younthk> thanks
[17:46] <stdin> have you tried just formatting it again?
[17:46] <younthk> no ,the system can not read it
[17:46] <izzyb> what is the command to manage the kde kicker bar again?  I have it set to auto hide and its not popping up again :(
[17:47] <stdin> younthk: it shouldn't matter if it can read it, does gparted show the disk?
[17:47] <younthk> no it doesn't ,but the mp3 is lighting
  and i've tried some command like rmmod ehci_hcd,etc, they doesn't work
[17:49] <stdin> izzyb: try running "kcmshell panel"
[17:50] <stdin> younthk: you'll probably want to re-load that module to get the system to see the device
[17:51] <younthk> sorry ,i cann't got it,
[17:51] <izzyb> stdin, thanks, that was what I was looking for :)
[17:51] <izzyb> any idea why the kicker sometimes doesn't popup correctly when it's hiding?
[17:51] <izzyb> or more to the point, how to fix it?
[17:52] <stdin> izzyb: no one really knows
[17:52] <stdin> it's "fixed" in KDE 4 though, they scrapped kicker ;)
[17:52] <younthk> thanks all the same
[17:52] <izzyb> lol
[17:53] <izzyb> well, at least I know how to fix it when it happens.  kind of
[17:53] <stdin> younthk: "sudo modprobe ehci_hcd" and all the modules you removed with "rmmod", then plug the device in and see if gparted shows it
 i tried udo modprobe ehci_hcd first,then replug the usb,run sudo gparted ,the gparted doesn't show it
[17:58] <younthk> sorry sudo
[18:00] <stdin> younthk: I'm not sure then, I'd maybe suggest restarting to make sure all the modules are properly loaded. but if it still doesn't show then I'm out of ideas
[18:00] <younthk> you mean restart my computer?
[18:01] <stdin> yes
[18:01] <younthk> o ,i 'll try right now
[18:01] <younthk> see you later
[18:06] <maes> Hi, i'm trying to read a mkv video, encode in h264, but with kaffein i get no sound, only the images. Do you know where is the problem ? (vlc work fine but i don't like it)
 thanks for your advise,thought it doesn't work,still it does not show mp3
[18:09] <BraveSpear> Is there a way to disable cut/copy/paste functions in kubuntu hardy?
[18:10] <younthk> i'd love to tell how it happened . i intended to make a livecd on usb of fedora ,then i used liveusb-creator of fedora,and some error happened .
[18:14] <younthk> then i use gparted the formate mp3 (usb),it goes well. but livecd on usb still cannot been created .so i formate it again,error happened .the gparted  no longer show it ,neither partition magic ,vista do
[18:14] <younthk> the light of mp3 is still on
[18:15] <younthk> so <stdin>  can you figure what happened
[18:15] <younthk> thank again
[18:16] <younthk> or can anyone help out of it
[18:17] <izzyb> younthk, this is an mp3 player?
[18:17] <younthk> yes it is
[18:17] <izzyb> mounted via usb and now it doesn't work?
[18:17] <younthk> i cannot mount it
[18:18] <izzyb> or fdisk it right?
[18:18] <izzyb> does lsusb still show the device?
[18:18] <younthk> i don't even know the command
[18:18] <bbits> how about /var/log/messages ?
[18:18] <younthk> it me try
[18:18] <bbits> try "tail -f /var/log/messages" when you plug this stick in
[18:18] <younthk> it shows "Bus 002 Device 001: IDBus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 0000:0000"
[18:19] <younthk> essage handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eessage handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.hostth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.host

[18:20] <kahn> q
[18:20] <younthk> and kernel: [  151.167972] end_request: I/kernel: [  151.167972] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[18:20]  * kahn пришел
[18:21] <bbits> younthk> you should see the messages file get updated when you plug the stick in "tail -f" the file then you will see what the new lines are
[18:21] <izzyb> younthk, that last error looks like a floppy error
[18:21] <bbits> oh no "floppy error" ;)
[18:22] <younthk> i had a floppy but i never used it
[18:22] <izzyb> yeah, you can probably ignore that one
[18:22] <younthk> tail: warning: following standard input indefinitely is ineffective
[18:22] <bbits> youn> anything new in the log when you plug it in ?
[18:23] <bbits> youn> what are you typing in ?
[18:23] <younthk> it show "tail: warning: following standard input indefinittail: warning: following standard input indefinitely is ineffective"ely is ineffective
[18:23] <younthk> tail: warning: following standard input indefinitely is ineffective
[18:24] <bbits> after you did what ?
[18:24] <younthk> after what ?
[18:24] <younthk> sorry
[18:25] <bbits> type this in at a terminal "tail -f /var/log/messages"
[18:25] <bbits> then plug the thingy in
[18:25] <bbits> then paste the new lines into this window ;)
[18:26] <younthk> "dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.nis_domain"
[18:26] <younthk> [  151.167972] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[18:27] <younthk> and several lines like that
[18:27] <younthk> dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.interface_mtu
[18:27] <bbits> give us all of them
[18:27] <younthk> Sep 30 01:03:33 ubuntughthty124 kernel: [   63.227311] NET: Registered protocol family 10
[18:27] <younthk> Sep 30 01:03:33 ubuntughthty124 kernel: [   63.229215] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
[18:27] <younthk> Sep 30 01:04:53 ubuntughthty124 kernel: [  143.217788] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[18:27] <younthk> Sep 30 01:04:53 ubuntughthty124 kernel: [  143.241702] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[18:27] <younthk> Sep 30 01:05:01 ubuntughthty124 kernel: [  151.144023] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[18:27] <younthk> Sep 30 01:05:01 ubuntughthty124 kernel: [  151.167972] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[18:27] <younthk> Sep 30 01:23:22 ubuntughthty124 -- MARK --
[18:27] <younthk> Sep 30 01:26:43 ubuntughthty124 syslogd 1.5.0#1ubuntu1: restart.
[18:28] <younthk> sorry that's all of them
[18:28] <bbits> odd
[18:29] <bbits> youthk> perhaps there is a problem with that usb port, can you plug a usb stick into to check that it works ?
[18:29] <bbits> youthk> or try another port
[18:29] <younthk> ok
[18:29] <bbits> youthk> and keep an eye on the output from /var/log/messages
[18:31] <younthk> Sep 30 01:30:06 ubuntughthty124 kernel: [ 1652.761948] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[18:31] <younthk> Sep 30 01:30:06 ubuntughthty124 kernel: [ 1652.785904] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[18:31] <younthk> Sep 30 01:30:08 ubuntughthty124 kernel: [ 1655.409357] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[18:31] <younthk> Sep 30 01:30:08 ubuntughthty124 kernel: [ 1655.433310] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[18:31] <younthk> that's again all i got
[18:34] <bbits> youthk> all you got when you did what ?
[18:35] <bbits> youthk> do you have any usb devices that work ?
[18:35] <younthk> no ,
[18:35] <younthk> can i send you a picture
[18:36] <bbits> sure, put it on a web page
[18:36] <MrKennie> anyone using superkaramba? Wondered if anyone experienced problems with updates to widgets? Even opening a theme locally it still uses old code.
[18:36] <MrKennie> I would love to know where that is coming from too :P
[18:37] <younthk> sorrry i dont know how to realize that
[18:37] <_2> what we working on ?
[18:38] <Denise> 2?
[18:38] <MrKennie> _2: me or are you talking to someone else? :)
[18:39] <_2> yeah
[18:39] <_2> i just got here,    so....
[18:39] <MrKennie> well, I made a karamba theme but running sk from terminal indicats calls to code that doesn't exist anymore in mine
[18:39] <bbits> youthk> if you dont have any working usb devices i would guess you have a hardware problem
[18:40] <Denise> hmm
[18:40] <Denise> working device
[18:40] <Denise> what says alibaba about it
[18:40] <bbits> work it
[18:40] <_2> MrKennie change in the kernel cause that maybe ?
[18:41] <MrKennie> I've cleared tmp directories, manually deleted anything in .kde/.. & .superkaramba/ but it's really strange
  there is a folder in /media named disk. but system:/media   does't
[18:41] <MrKennie> _2: running -19 for a while now.
[18:41] <younthk> a folder in /media named disk is about 4k
[18:41] <bbits> that is the size of a folder
[18:41] <bbits> it is just a mounting point
[18:42] <bbits> youthk> i think you may have hardware trouble, unless i have missed something
[18:42] <_2> MrKennie no. i mean the changes in the kernel leading to 2.6.*    maybe a quick scan of the kernel changelog would find it ?
[18:42] <younthk> oh thanks
[18:42] <MrKennie> _2: filesystem issues?
[18:43] <_2> MrKennie any "karamba" issue might be kernel related   ;/
[18:43] <MrKennie> _2: well, maybe.
[18:44] <_2> -.true: root: command not found
[18:44] <MrKennie> I'll try it on a different box and see what happens.
[18:44] <_2> oops. sorry.
[18:45] <bbits> younthk> just out of interest have you tried rebooting after playing with parted ?
[18:45] <_2> MrKennie yeah it's worth a shot.   specally if you have an older debian system to test on
[18:48] <richardbh> heres a tricky one: if we assume that  'sudo chmod 0750 /' got typed into a terminal and executed, is there any way I can rescue the system?
[18:49] <_2> richardbh sure,  boot to rescue mode and chmod 0555 /
[18:49] <bbits> rich> boot from a live cd and then fix ?
[18:50] <_2> richardbh sure,  boot to rescue mode and chmod 00055 / # will work too.   as will chmod 0001 /
[18:50] <richardbh> _2: if ive blanked the grub menu, how can I get it to appear as it boots?
[18:50] <_2> but the last of those is a little different than most expect a system to work.
[18:51] <_2> richardbh when grub loads.  "assuming it does" you can enter command mode.
[18:51] <_2> richardbh [esc] [c] [enter]
[18:51] <richardbh> cool, thanks
[18:51] <richardbh> what should the default permissions be on /?
[18:52] <_2> richardbh and if you know enough about grub you can enter the kernel and initrd lines manually
[18:52] <_2> richardbh defaults are .*55
[18:52] <universidad> español
[18:52] <Tm_T> !es | universidad
[18:52] <_2> the root perm is totally irrelavent   cause root cares not for permission anyway
[18:53] <_2> richardbh but the group and other are 5 5    read exec
[18:54] <_2> default is usually 0755   but like i said the 0?55 ? can be anything you want to put there.
[18:54] <_2> root cares not at all for permissions
[18:55] <richardbh> thankyou so much
[18:55] <bbits> richarddbh> whatever you do dont call chmod with -R as root
[18:55] <Tm_T> erm
[18:55] <richardbh> bbits: ill try not to make the same mistake twice!
[18:55] <Tm_T> _2: untrue, especially when dealing with groups
[18:56] <_2> richardbh yeah streightening out an accidental chmod -R * /     it's nigh impossabel to get everything right
[18:56] <richardbh> lol
[18:56] <abe9> hola
[18:56] <richardbh> working again now
[18:56] <richardbh> thanks for your help
[18:57] <_2> Tm_T show me how it affects a system if permission on / is 0755  or 0055    if there is any differance i'd be very interested in knowing it...
[18:58] <abe9> hola alguien habla espanol por aqui??
[18:58] <_2> !es
[18:58] <Tm_T> _2: if several users/daemons are in group used in target, group rights has affect
[18:58] <_2> Tm_T you are not addressing the owner of /    so not related.
[18:59] <Tm_T> it's always related in some cases
[18:59] <_2> Tm_T no.
[18:59] <Tm_T> yes, and this is offtopic
[18:59] <ubuntu> hi, I'm currently trying to install kubuntu 8.04. I had a little trouble with raid, but I solved that, now the problem is with lvm.  the lvm device doesn't appear in /dev as expected (it worked under feisty). I ran lvm and then entered lvdisplay, one notable line is "LV Status              NOT available". all the pvs are fine and show up when I type pvs. ditto the vg.    does anyone have any ideas?
[19:00] <_2> Tm_T if you are willing to correct something i'm saying, while helping here, then don't dodge behind the !ot banner when questioned about it.
[19:02] <ico2> to add to my previous request for information: I also installed lvm (that probably helped a little)
[19:03] <ico2> maybe I should take this to #ubuntu since i don't reckon it's specific to kubuntu?
[19:04] <bbits> ico2: it does sound like a very specialist question
[19:04] <bbits> ico2: perhaps you should ask some kernel developers
[19:05] <bbits> ico2: or find a contact by looking at the kernel docs
[19:05] <ico2> bbits: i would reckon it's at least specific to ubuntu
[19:05] <ico2> bbits: it's hardly a kernel issue
[19:05] <_2>   ls -ld /    d???r-xr-x   the three question marks can be any combonation of "r w x or -"   it will not affect the system in any way that i have ever been able to detect.      i don't mind being corrected if i'm wrong,  but don't just blurt out some untested unproven assertion as if it were fact.   that's all i have to say about that.
[19:07] <ico2> ok, i solved it with some further googlage, turned out i needed to run lvchange -a y <lv>
[19:07] <ico2> thanks anyway guys
[19:07] <Tm_T> _2: please join #kubuntu-offtopic so we can discuss this further there
[19:07] <bbits> sounds like a showdown
[19:08]  * bbits goes and takes a seat ready for the fight :)
[19:08] <Tann> I'f I were to install the madwifi package from the ubuntu repositories, how would I configure it.
[19:08] <MrKennie> _2: not sure if I hot a bug but it was partly my fault. I had to variants of the theme but with the same name. Still not sure why it was loading old code, though.
[19:09] <MrKennie> two varaints of..*
[19:09] <_2> MrKennie hmmm interesting.   did you test on a system with older kernel ?
[19:10] <MrKennie> well, the other box doesn't have an older kernel but it seems to run updated versions ok
[19:10] <MrKennie> of the theme that is
[19:11] <MrKennie> I might do a fsck I think, I got a sneaky feeling it's something with the fs.
[19:11] <willwork4foo> Hello! Anyone here know much about sharing printers from Kubuntu to macOS clients? I'm having a tiny nightmare here
[19:17] <willwork4foo> Hi! Does anyone know of any really good guides for sharing a USB-connected printer from a Kubuntu host onto a Mac OSX client?
[19:18] <Denise> pc
[19:18] <Denise> pc formation
[19:19] <willwork4foo> Denise: was that for me?
[19:20] <Denise> hmm
[19:20] <Denise> yes
[19:20] <Denise> i was wondering why I didnt know more about computers
[19:20] <willwork4foo> Denise: ok... that's about as much use as a chocolate teapot to me...
[19:22] <Denise> what is useful for you then
[19:22] <halo> hi, someone with experience in configuring multi-seat with video adapter 945GM?
[19:23] <_2> !cups | willwork4foo
[19:23] <willwork4foo> _2: you clearly haven't read what I've said at all.
[19:24] <_2> really ?
[19:24] <willwork4foo> _2: really.
[19:24] <Tm_T> willwork4foo: what's wrong with cups?
[19:24] <_2> maybe you could reword it.
[19:25] <willwork4foo> _2: the printer works perfectly in Kubuntu. I want to share it over the network so that I can print from my MacBook (running OSX Leopard). I'm trying to set up sharing using netatalk.
[19:25] <willwork4foo> it's not working.
[19:25] <Tm_T> willwork4foo: why not using cups?
[19:26] <willwork4foo> aha wait - it now works!
[19:26] <_2> netatalk ?     i'm not a mac user.     but cups shoule make the printer avalable to the network.
[19:26] <_2> should
[19:26] <willwork4foo> I have fixed it. the guide I was following had a typo.
[19:26] <willwork4foo> :)
[19:26] <Tm_T> aww
[19:26] <_2> well isn't that sweet  ;/
[19:26] <Tm_T> sugar is
[19:27] <_2> not like honey
[19:27] <Denise> of course not
[19:27] <Tm_T> yes, I'm sweerest
[19:27] <Tm_T> t
[19:27] <Denise> nothing can beat honey
[19:27] <_2> Denise true dat
[19:27] <Tann> Denise: agreed
[19:31] <_2> anyone know why after installing all the "junk" to make dvd playback work correctly   now copying from data dvd is very slow, and boggs down the whole system ?
[19:32] <_2> does it filter through all the libdvdcss crap even when not needed ?
[19:32] <_2> i should say libdvdcss and related crap.
[19:32] <_2> ?
[19:33]  * _2 hates propriatary "junk" anyway.
[19:33] <Denise> crap deleted
[19:34] <Tm_T> _2: no it doesn't go through it when not needed
[19:34] <_2> Tm_T and it knows the differance       i hope ?
[19:34] <Tm_T> well libdvdcss is just a library
[19:35] <_2> yeah, and i'm like why would mc be filtering through that...    but maybe there is some other cause...
[19:35]  * Tm_T slaps luis_lopez_away 
[19:36] <Tm_T> !away > luis_lopez_away
[19:37]  * _2 doesn't understand why people leave an irc client running while away... sometimes for days at a time even ?
[19:37] <_2> it's not like it helps the channel to keep the number up.
[19:38] <_2> what helps a channel is to have good freindly helpful and timely responces.
[19:38] <Denise> I think I cant really help
[19:39] <Denise> the dunno the commands
[19:40] <_2> !msgthebot > Denise
[19:41] <Denise> I dont understand
[19:41] <Denise> what u want
[19:41] <shepherd_> #vmware
[19:41] <shepherd_> #ubuntu
[19:47] <ruschi> Hi on kubuntu 8.10 I realized strange behavior concerning Icons: in the application menu I can see a firefox-icon. When added to favourites or to the panel the icon disappears (is substituted by a generic gears icon).
[19:47] <ruschi> can anyone confirm this behavior?
[19:48] <Tm_T> !ibex
[19:48] <Tm_T> ruschi: hmm, mind to ask in #ubuntu+1 and/or #kubuntu-kde4
[19:49] <ruschi> ok thanks - seems to be due to alpha status
[19:59] <Agent_bob> any new "whois" type software out for linux ?     anyone know of off hand ?
[20:03] <rgreening> !search whois
[20:04] <Enigma23> #kubuntu
[20:04] <Denise> greening
[20:12] <gandalf__> hi allz
[20:12] <gandalf__> :)
[20:13] <Agent_bob> gandalf__
[20:14] <Agent_bob> Q is a tarball technecally a file system ?
[20:14] <Tm_T> nope
[20:15] <Agent_bob> hmmm so i'm using disks now with no filesystem at all on them... o.O
[20:17] <ronnie_> hi guys = )   I'm trying to install (slackware) linux on an old 390x ibm thinkpad, to give to my mom to play low end games on, wondering if there are any games that come with slackware at all??
[20:17] <Denise> ma t'en faire un slackware
[20:17] <Agent_bob> i had dropped partitions from my hdd's several years ago, and have sense dropped file-systems from all floppys
[20:18] <izzyb> why would you ask in a kubuntu channel for that?
[20:18] <ronnie_> sry thought this was for any linux related question = )
[20:19] <Agent_bob> ronnie_ that's ##linux
[20:19] <Agent_bob> ronnie_  or ##linuxhelp
[20:19] <ronnie_> k ty
[20:19] <Agent_bob> ronnie_ but there is a #slackware here too
[20:19] <Maxa> i've forgot... whats with the double ##?
[20:20] <Agent_bob> non-official
[20:20] <Maxa> k
[20:20] <Agent_bob> !freenode
[20:24] <LjL> Agent_bob, Tm_T: on what grounds do you say it's not a filesystem?
[20:25] <Agent_bob> LjL i just asked...   </shrugs>
[20:26] <Agent_bob> LjL i would have called it that,   that's why i asked; hoping someone would know
[20:27] <LjL> Agent_bob: i know, i just highlighted you since you were the original poster
[20:27] <LjL> excuse the usenet terminology
[20:27] <Agent_bob> done
[20:28]  * Agent_bob has always been the origenal poster child....
[20:28] <puzzle> hi
[20:28] <Agent_bob> only question is which poster.
[20:28] <puzzle> i have a big earthquakeing problem!
[20:28] <Agent_bob> puzzle sound not working
[20:28] <Agent_bob> ?
[20:28] <puzzle> nop
[20:29] <puzzle> i could solve with installing opensound
[20:29] <puzzle> Agent
[20:29] <puzzle> 5 minutes my net was not working
[20:29] <puzzle> i wen through the steps with iwconfig
[20:29] <puzzle> so im here
[20:29] <puzzle> but!!
[20:29] <puzzle> the browser still said: google.com not found
[20:30] <puzzle> but if i do ping google.com
[20:30] <puzzle> it works
[20:30] <Agent_bob> oh yeah,  that bug
[20:30] <puzzle> what bug? and my System Network Settings (with gui) i cant configure my wifi card
[20:30] <puzzle> with ubuntu i could!
[20:31] <puzzle> only kubuntu i cant
[20:31] <erickrauda> :(
[20:31] <erickrauda> ubuntu is the power
[20:31] <administrator> Hi all
[20:31] <puzzle> ubuntu dont havee KDE
[20:31] <erickrauda> kde
[20:31] <puzzle> power but ugly
[20:31] <administrator> u can load KDE on ubuntu too
[20:31] <puzzle> hmm.
[20:32] <Agent_bob> puzzle if ubuntu didn't have kde there wouldn't be a kubuntu
[20:32] <Tann> puzzle: yeah. In ubuntu you can "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[20:32] <erickrauda> you can instal kde
[20:32] <administrator> have the option of both KDE N GNOME
[20:32] <puzzle> yeah, and the two gui has conflict i guess
[20:32] <LjL> no
[20:32] <erickrauda> or sudo apt-get install kde
[20:32] <Tann> that too
[20:32] <puzzle> what should i type to get firefox?
[20:32] <Tann> sudo apt-get install firefox
[20:33] <erickrauda> yes
[20:33] <puzzle> ty
[20:33] <Tann> no problem
[20:33] <puzzle> 1min and i show you the result of this command
[20:33] <puzzle> hmm
[20:33] <puzzle> strange
[20:33] <Agent_bob> puzzle i have less trouble with adding   kde to ubuntu-desktop   or gnome to kubuntu-desktop    than with adding *buntu-desktop to *buntu-desktop   but in theory there shouldn't be any problem with any combonation.
[20:34] <puzzle> im installing firefoz
[20:34] <puzzle> but my original problem is that konquere said: google.com not found!
[20:34] <Tann> Agent_bob: I've never had trouble installing the *buntu-desktops
[20:35] <Agent_bob> Tann i do funny things though.
[20:35] <puzzle> and it is probably because i configure my network in command line
[20:35] <puzzle> not with the gui!
[20:35] <erickrauda> firefox is cool
[20:35] <Tann> ah. that'd make sense
[20:35] <afeijo> thats sound stupid but how to map a network share with my kde to my ubuntu server? I'm trying with Dlphin > Network > Add network, ssh protocol, and it dont work
[20:35] <Tann> afeijo: What type of share is it?
[20:35] <puzzle> i install linux to became a big hacker
[20:35] <Agent_bob> afeijo is sshd running on the target ?
[20:36] <afeijo> tann: samba shares it on the ubuntu
[20:36] <puzzle> i am going to install apache and find bugs in that
[20:36] <puzzle> you will hear my name within a few months
[20:36] <afeijo> Agent_bob: checking
[20:36] <Tann> afeijo: you sohuld in dolphin be able to go to the remote section and click on "Samba Shares" then.
[20:36] <erickrauda> apache with php?
[20:37] <Agent_bob> Tann he specified ssh protocal ^    ?
[20:37] <puzzle> i dont care php
[20:37] <puzzle> my bug will not be a script kiddie sql bug
[20:37] <erickrauda> ha
[20:37] <puzzle> my bug i will find, it will be a pure buffer overflow
[20:37] <Tann> Agent_bob: I noticed. But I don't get why you would use ssh with samba
[20:37] <erickrauda> you usin mysql?
[20:37] <puzzle> nop
[20:37] <Agent_bob> Tann true dat
[20:37] <erickrauda> XD
[20:37] <puzzle> i use gdb, disassembly and c-source code
[20:38] <Agent_bob> be back soon....
[20:38] <afeijo> Agent_bob: I'm doing right, using ssh? or webdav can do the trick?
[20:39] <erickrauda> I using xampp
[20:39] <puzzle> ty for help, hasta luego
[20:39] <afeijo> tann: that acuse an error after a few seconds
[20:39] <Tann> afeijo: Oh. Whats the error?
[20:40] <afeijo> it simply dont say! :( just "internal error"
[20:40] <afeijo> the 3rd line say: arguments list too long
[20:40] <erickrauda> is a error of sintaxis
[20:41] <afeijo> I didnt configure samba here yet
[20:42] <erickrauda> but already configurastes samba
[20:42] <erickrauda> you need configure samba
[20:44] <erickrauda> you edit smb.conf
[20:44] <erickrauda> hello?
[20:46] <erickrauda> espanol
[20:48] <favro> !es
[20:51] <afeijo> whats the command for that?
[20:51] <afeijo_BR> damn, my toolbar is a mess, clock in the middle, running apps on the right, trayicon left... how to move all of it!?
[20:52] <loris> ciao a tutti
[21:03] <zer0o> hi guys can anyone help me with wicd?
[21:04] <Teisei> zer0o: What's the problem ?
[21:04] <Teisei> Installation ?
[21:06] <zer0o> Teisei: nope, ive already installed after unistalling network manager, then i put the icon on the tray as the wiki was explaining and it was working, but now the icon says "not connected" instead i am, and if i want to get disconnected i cant cuz clicking on the tray icon nothing happens, why?
[21:07] <kronoman> hello, can't access google at all, any suggestions
[21:07] <Teisei> zer0o: Is it only the icon that doesn't work ?
[21:07] <zer0o> Teisei: apparently yes
[21:07] <kronoman> I think my firefox is hijacked or something, and opera core dumps, and konqueror can't show anything in google either
[21:07] <zer0o> kronoman: check your dns
[21:07] <kronoman> if I enter using a IP, I can use google, but with www.google.com I get a blank page
[21:08] <zer0o> kronoman: exaclty! check your DNS
[21:08] <kronoman> how can I do that?
[21:08] <zer0o> Teisei: i am connected but there's no icon on the tray at the moment and when there is it doesnt work
[21:08] <Teisei> kronoman: more /etc/resolv.conf
[21:09] <Teisei> zer0o: Hmm, weird
[21:09] <kronoman> ok, now what I do with that info?
[21:09] <Teisei> kronoman: Does it match with what you should have ?
[21:09] <zer0o> Teisei: how can i at least put back the icon there?
[21:09] <kronoman> I don't know what I should have :o
[21:09] <Teisei> kronoman: Any papers given to you by your ISP ?
[21:10] <Teisei> zer0o: I haven't used the icon, sorry :/
[21:10] <Mac40DO> Hi! How can I toggle between two soundcards in kde? Both work perfectly on the console.
[21:10] <zer0o> so how do you get disconnected?
[21:10] <Teisei> zer0o: Perhaps some other people can help you with it :)
[21:10] <zer0o> alright thanks
[21:10] <kronoman> Teisei: I yahooed (yuck) my ISP + dns and the first news that I got is that they have their DNS down
[21:10] <kronoman> problem solved I guess...
[21:10] <Teisei> kronoman: Good to know :)
[21:11] <kronoman> thanks for the help
[21:11] <Teisei> No problem :)
[21:15] <khurram> hello i am using kubuntu 8.04 can any one help me to configure it
[21:16] <afeijo> !imap
[21:16] <khurram> An error occurred while loading http://www.google.com/search?q=123&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8:
[21:16] <khurram> Could not connect to host http://www.google.com/search?q=123&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8.
[21:16] <avihayb> well, I finaly solved the port 80 problem, it was a microsoft style solution, can you guess what it is?
[21:16] <khurram> hello i am using kubuntu 8.04 can any one help me to configure it
[21:16] <khurram> [02:15] <khurram> An error occurred while loading http://www.google.com/search?q=123&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8:
[21:16] <khurram> [02:15] <khurram> Could not connect to host http://www.google.com/search?q=123&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8.
[21:16] <khurram> can any one help me
[21:16] <afeijo> !MailServer
[21:17] <khurram> can any one help me to configure my konqurer browser
[21:17] <avihayb> khurram: can you connect to various servers, but your web browsing dosen't work right? or works very VERY slowly?
[21:17] <khurram> yea avihayb
[21:18] <avihayb> so slow that it usualy says server timeout...
[21:18] <avihayb> I just had the same problem
[21:18] <avihayb> my solution was a reset...
[21:18] <khurram> my web browser showin me that i am not connected to inter net avihayb
[21:18] <xan_> holas
[21:19] <avihayb> it's actualy showing that it dosn't get a response ast enough from a website
[21:19] <khurram> i jus installed frsh copy of kubuntu 8.04 and i am using konquerer as a browser
[21:19] <avihayb> ast->fast
[21:19] <khurram> Could not connect to host http://hotmail.com/.
[21:19] <khurram> thats the eror
[21:20] <avihayb> try the site http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/?from=getfirefox
[21:20] <avihayb> or just mozilla.com
[21:20] <khurram> my browser is konquerer do u know how to confiqure it
[21:20] <avihayb> it should work out of the box
[21:21] <avihayb> I had a problem wher bouth firefox and konquerer would not connect to websites right
[21:22] <avihayb> and would usualy say connection timeout
[21:22] <khurram> so u mean i have to install mozilla
[21:23] <avihayb> no
[21:23] <avihayb> that's just a site that did work
[21:23] <khurram> then what should i do now
[21:23] <avihayb> even tough google didn't
[21:24] <avihayb> do you see mozilla.com in konq like you should? or does it display an error?
[21:25] <khurram> An error occurred while loading http://mozilla.com:
[21:25] <khurram> its gvin me the same error]
[21:26] <avihayb> ok, my solution to the problem I had was a reset. maybe it will help you too...
[21:29] <Jowi> hi. I just installed kde4 package and started it for the first time. screen resolution is wrong and when i try to set the correct one in "Display - system settings" the apply button is grayed out....?
[21:29] <favro> Jowi: #kubuntu-kde4 for that :)
[21:30] <Jowi> thanks favro
[21:30] <favro> np :)
[21:36] <dario_> hi, i'm on hardy, in gutsy in mp3 files properties there were infos such as bitrate, track length and id3 tags, how could i have them on hardy?
[21:38] <avihayb> dario_: could it be that you used konqueror in gusty and dolphin in hardy?
[21:39] <dario_> avihayb, yes, it could be (even if i used dolphin on gutsy, too) is it an app related-thing?
[21:40] <dario_> ^app-related thing
[21:40] <avihayb> could be
[21:40] <avihayb> try looking at your mp3s with konqueror
[21:41] <avihayb> maybe it's a vew type thingy
[21:41] <avihayb> view*
[21:41] <dario_> avihayb i was just trying, it's just the same as dolphin
[21:42] <avihayb> well, then I don't know :-<
[21:42] <dario_> thanks anyway :)
[21:51] <sara> sad
[22:05] <sarah11> yeah
[22:09] <avihayb> kurram_ / sarah11 : did it work?
[22:10] <sarah11> no  avihayb
[22:11] <avihayb> sory then...
[22:11] <sarah11> its ok avihayb thankx for the help
[22:14] <openpat> hi
[22:15] <khurram> hi openpat
[22:15] <openpat> hi khurram
[22:15] <khurram> wht do you do ur asl openpat
[22:15] <openpat> just discovering Kubuntu
[22:15] <openpat> asl ?
[22:16] <khurram> age sex location
[22:16] <openpat>  M 46 France
[22:16] <jussi01> !asl
[22:16] <khurram> so wht do you do open pat
[22:16] <jussi01> !ot
[22:16] <openpat> trying kubuntu
[22:16] <openpat> nice distro
[22:17] <khurram> yeah
[22:17] <khurram> but ther is prb with konquerer
[22:17] <openpat> little pb with wifi
[22:17] <khurram> i mean browser konqurer
[22:17] <openpat> what ?
[22:17] <openpat> which pb ?
[22:17] <khurram> not openin any site
[22:17] <openpat> oh, it works here
[22:17] <khurram> whats browser ur usin
[22:18] <openpat> konqueror
[22:18] <khurram> is it working well
[22:18] <openpat> just google user
[22:18] <openpat> it s fine
[22:19] <openpat> tried mappy without any problem
[22:20] <openpat> I'm downloading KDE4
[22:20] <openpat> did anybody have a try ?
[22:31] <Catdaemon`> I'm having issues getting my wireless network card working - wicd says "no wireless networks found", how can I check if the card is actually on and responsive?
[22:32] <PhilRod> Catdaemon`: ifconfig
[22:32] <Catdaemon`> only eth0 and lo are listed so I assume that's the problem then
[22:33] <PhilRod> Catdaemon`: then you can look in the output of dmesg to see if the card loaded or failed
[22:34] <Catdaemon`> I have just compiled the drivers so I don't think they're set up to load on startup yet - I've run the script that came with them and the adapter shows up now
[22:35] <Catdaemon`> now I'm back where I was before - my horrible one-off integrated network card doesn't want to play nice and connect
[22:37] <lettfeti> Hi. i'm having problems with GNOME after installing kde. It won't load anything up, i'm stuck with the orange background and nothing happens, KDE's fine can't log back in on GNOME. Just wondering if anyone knows this problem and or how to fix it.
[22:38] <Catdaemon`> wicd is hanging at "obtaining IP address" and then disconnects itself. I'm fairly sure this isn't the router's fault because it all works flawlessly on windows. I've disabled encryption on the router for now to ensure this isn't the problem. How can I see what is going on behind the scenes?
[22:46] <PhilRod> Catdaemon`: run the commands manually. Does "ifconfig" say that it's associated?
[22:49] <Catdaemon`> I'm not sure, here's the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/52248/
[22:51] <SeanTater> A program polluted my .xsession-errors file with over 50GB of garbage, so I restarted X. Unfortunately, ksmserver still has the file open. Is is safe to kill ksmserver?
[22:52] <bobbo85> How can I record whatever sound i'm playing to an audio file?
[22:53] <SeanTater> bobbo85: I was going to do that once (I wanted to play the music in all my computers), however it's moredifficult than you would think. Xine can pipe to a file instead of a speaker if you like, but you'd have to recompress it.
[22:54] <bobbo85> SeanTater, I keep seeing articles that audacity can just record whatever sound is playing... but the input meter isn't picking anything up, like i have it set to the wrong device or something
[22:55] <SeanTater> I honestly don't know about audacity, but you might be able to find some tidbit about a different output for pulse, artsd, or alsa (I could not find anything, but I'm no expert researcher)
[22:56] <Catdaemon`> when I run dchclient I get "No DHCPOFFERS recieved."
[22:57] <bobbo85> I really don't know what much of that stuff is, I'm a newb.  What's pulse, alsa, oss, artsd?
[22:58] <Catdaemon`> sound servers, they're programs which other programs use to play sound (correct me if I'm wrong)
[23:00] <bobbo85> yeah thought so, it seems it shouldn't be so complicated to just record the sound on its way out to the speakers
[23:00] <Catdaemon`> according to my router my laptop is being given 192.168.1.4, why isn't the laptop working properly :|
[23:03] <SeanTater> bobbo85: I would think so and it would be great if someone who develops those programs thought of that. What are you trying to do with it though? Maybe there is an alternate method?
[23:05] <Denise> sometimes they dont know what they do with it
[23:05] <Denise> and what they will do with it either
[23:06] <bobbo85> SeanTater, there is a song that I love, but it is one of those songs that's embedded in a webpage, i can play it but not download it
[23:07] <bobbo85> It's on last.fm, but is a link, not on a radio station, also it has one of those "you can only play this 5 times" things that only changes when I reinstall the OS
[23:09] <Catdaemon`> so if there's no encryption it hangs trying to get an IP and if there is it hangs validating the authentication.. I've been trying to get this working for a whole day now with no success. The main issue is that I have no idea where the problem lies.
[23:11] <bobbo85> Catdaemon`, it's a complete guess, but maybe you can delete a config folder/file somewhere that would reset your network card stuff on your laptop
[23:11] <Catdaemon`> it has never worked
[23:11] <bobbo85> oh
[23:11] <Catdaemon`> actually I did get it to connect to a friend's wifi for about 15 minutes before it dropped and ceased working again but I don't really consider that workin
[23:11] <Catdaemon`> g
[23:12] <bobbo85> does the card work?  have you tried another card?  (some cheap usb card or somethin)
[23:13] <Denise> freind's wifi
[23:13] <Denise> ok
[23:14] <Catdaemon`> no seriously a friend's wifi :p, the card works fine on windows and I don't have another to test
[23:15] <Denise> villlage's idiot?
[23:15] <jerry_> hi i was woundering, can i duel boot with windows xp ultimate by johnny?
[23:16] <jerry_> does anyone even know what that is?
[23:16] <jerry_> i know its not that common
[23:16] <Catdaemon`> is this some scene release name or something
[23:17] <Catdaemon`> you can dual boot with whatever operating system, it doesn't matter if it's "by johnny"
[23:17] <jerry_> umm hes a guy who doesnt like windows so he modified windows xp like it should have been all along
[23:17] <jerry_> vista
[23:17] <jerry_> so is there a good detailed web site that explains all the steps to duel booting with windows xp?
[23:18] <rickest> jerry_: what have you read that you didn't understand?
[23:18] <Catdaemon`> the ubuntu installer does it all for you generally, there is no need for any guide
[23:18] <jerry_> well i havent read much about duel booting, but at the moment with school i need windows, but i love kubuntu to much to leave it
[23:19] <jerry_> so i decided to mabe reinstall windows then duel boot.
[23:19] <rickest> jerry_: for the most part it's seamless.  install windows first, then (k)ubuntu and the latter will pretty much take care of everything
[23:20] <rickest> jerry_: google 'windows vista ubuntu dual boot' for 620,000+ results if you need more info
[23:20] <jerry_> i see
[23:20] <jerry_> thanks
[23:21] <rickest> jerry_: the only important thing I can think of is be sure not to install Windows /after/ Linux.  It will overwrite the boot record which is recoverable but a pain if you've never done it
[23:21] <Catdaemon`> is there some sort of wireless card diagnostic tool
[23:22] <jerry_> got it
[23:24] <Denise> k
[23:27] <IcyPolecat> jerry_: another option would be to virtualise Windows ... it's what I do at work :-D
[23:44] <gaetano> ciao a tutti
[23:44] <gaetano> list
[23:44] <gaetano> lista
[23:47] <gaetano> ciao
[23:49] <Catdaemon`> I really can't figure out how to diagnose this http://xs131.xs.to/xs131/08401/snapshot2658.png
[23:50] <Catdaemon`> I get no dchp response doing it manually.. but I get one through ethernet
[23:51] <gaetano> list
[23:51] <gaetano> dar sin
[23:52] <gaetano> dark sin
[23:52] <gaetano> ciao a tutti
[23:58] <francesco_> non riesco piu a tornnare con una risoluzione alta dello schermo
[23:59] <francesco_> aiuto