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loolseb128: Hey08:38
loolseb128: I think you synced gnome-build08:38
loolseb128: But it had a SONAME change; the fixed one is in NEW in Debian ATM08:38
loolPerhaps we should upload a snapshot of it from pkg-gnome?08:38
seb128hello lool, yes, I didn't expect robster to screw in unstable ;-)08:39
seb128lool: huats was working on it, he's the one who pointed me the soname change which I pointed to robster08:39
Zuolaihi, I'd like to have one of the specials keys of my keyboard to launch gvim. There is no such action yet in the keyboard shortcuts settings program - how can I add it?08:39
Zuolaicould someone point me to instructions on how to do this manually?08:45
seb128mvo: hey, could you look at bug #27456508:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 274565 in gnome-games "error updating gnomes-game-data" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27456508:45
seb128Zuolai: that's not an user question chan, try #ubuntu08:46
seb128mvo: the current comment has a "short read in buffer_copy" error, is that something known?08:47
Zuolaiok08:47
mvoseb128: that sounds like a media error08:47
mvoseb128: but the first report looks different: gconf-schemas: error: You need at least a file to (un)register.gconf-schemas: error: You need at least a file to (un)register.08:48
mvoeh: gconf-schemas: error: You need at least a file to (un)register.08:48
seb128mvo: right, I wonder how that's possible, the postinst should be the same for everybody and it lists schemas for sure08:48
* mvo nods08:49
seb128I hate those upgrade bugs, they almost never makes sense08:49
seb128mvo: thanks, I'll change the bug to a question, that's not a bug but a local installation issue08:50
mvoseb128: I added a comment08:50
mvoseb128: no idea about the one from david08:50
seb128mvo: thanks08:50
davmor2quick query on today's iso I was expecting to see Ekiga 3.0 as it is the new default in gnome but it seems to still be 2.0.12 is this likely to change at all?09:09
seb128davmor2: why did you expect to see something which has not been uploaded to ubuntu?09:12
seb128davmor2: depends if somebody is wanting to work on ekiga in ubuntu, I've too much to do already and don't use it so I'm not09:12
davmor2seb128: No it was more reading all about it from gnome reviews etc.  And more kinda assuming than expecting09:13
huatsmorning fellows09:18
huats!09:18
seb128lut huats09:19
huatshello seb12809:20
davmor2guys just found this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/27574409:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 275744 in compiz "Intrepid: Compiz settings selector blanks although the setting selected still functions" [Undecided,New]09:37
mvodavmor2: let me have a look09:38
mvodavmor2: thanks, I think I know what the reason for this is09:39
davmor2no probs09:39
davmor2asac: ping09:39
mvoseb128: I took the "compiz falls back to ini when gconf is not functioning" the other day (was assigned to you) - I guess you don't mind ;) ?09:40
seb128mvo: dunno why it was assigned to me but thanks for working on this one ;-)09:40
mvoseb128: I also added local filtering to the package_hook script in apport (just pushed the branch),. then we can just add the bogus one there09:42
mvoand never see them again09:42
seb128mvo: how is that different of bug patterns?09:43
asacdavmor2: pong09:43
davmor2asac: I got an issue with FF on my 19" monitor running at 1440X900 when I first start FF the window extends beyond the top panel09:45
davmor2asac: www.davmor2.co.uk/ff-size.png09:48
asacdavmor2: interesting09:48
asacdavmor2: this is compiz right?09:48
mvoseb128: isn't that per package?09:49
asacmvo: ^^ these issues started to get reported a few weeks ago :/09:49
seb128mvo: yes09:49
davmor2asac: compiz is on by default yes it's an all intel machine09:49
mvoseb128: we could need a global bug pattern or a special handling pattern or something. to say "all report with "short read in buffer_copy"" for example that works on all package. my understanding is that there is currently no global one?09:50
davmor2mvo: I can confirm that you fix for xapian works by the way :)09:50
mvoseb128: but maybe that is a better approch, just adding one09:50
asacmvo: how can we track down a regression window?09:50
mvodavmor2: great, thanks09:50
asac(for compiz)09:51
davmor2breakfast I'll be back in a bit :)09:51
mvoasac: compiz has not changed in the last 6 weeks09:51
seb128mvo: oh, that was about the buffer_copy thing, I was not in the right context ;-) Yes, that makes sense to have those, out of space, etc handled directly locally rather than having to get online datas, etc09:52
mvodavmor2: could you please install the packages from "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/compiz/ubuntu hardy main" and see if that fixes the issue?09:52
mvoseb128: aha, ok :)09:52
mvoseb128: I was wondering if I had overlooked something obvious :)09:52
mvoasac: do you see this window problem as well on your machine?09:53
asacmvo: unfortunately not. but there have a been a few reports of this over the lats weeks09:57
asacmvo: mdz has it itoo09:57
mvoasac: ok, I will wait for davmor2 to test the 0.7.8-release version first09:58
asacmvo: it appears to be related to dual monitor setups (if not related, at least easier reproducible)09:58
asacwell ... not sure. lets wait for davmor09:59
mvoasac: right, I was suspecting that (dual monitor)10:02
mvothat or driver or both10:02
asacmvo: just a guess. i think its easier to reproduce when going down from a high screen resolution to a lower one10:04
asac(thats what i remember someone said)10:04
davmor2mvo, asac: back10:04
mvodavmor2: what setup do you use (dual screen? if so, what resolutions?)10:05
davmor2mvo: single screen 1440X90010:05
mvodavmor2: what driver?10:05
davmor2intel10:06
mvoseb128: could you please "bzr add debian/patches/96_gnome_appearance_properties_doesnt_crash.patch" and then bzr commit; bzr push in your gnome-control-center branch? if you don't have it on disk anymore don't bother, I download/add it myself10:06
mvodavmor2: thanks :) next thing would be to test the 0.7.8 release from the compiz PPA10:07
seb128mvo: I did that? and I did a new version update since which removed the patch since the new version has the change no?10:07
davmor2what's the ppa address ?10:07
mvoseb128: oh, sorry - I misread the changelog10:08
* mvo whistles innocently10:08
seb128mvo: or did I screwed up on bzr again?10:08
* seb128 verifies10:08
mvoseb128: I think its all fine10:08
mvodavmor2: could you please install the packages from "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/compiz/ubuntu hardy main" and see if that fixes the issue?10:08
seb128mvo: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/gnome-control-center/ubuntu is uptodate so I think it's alright ;-)10:08
* seb128 hugs mvo10:09
* mvo hugs seb12810:09
davmor2mvo: hardy main and not intrepid main?10:09
mvodavmor2: eh, sorry - intrepid10:10
davmor2mvo: 10 updates does that sound about right?10:11
mvodavmor2: yes10:11
seb128mvo: having a fix for the set keyboard default crasher?10:12
mvoseb128: I'm currently working on this10:13
davmor2mvo: rebooted and firefox is the same10:14
asacdavmor2: how do you reproduce?10:15
mvodavmor2: ok, thanks. could you please file a bug about it? I will change my resolution to see if I can reproduce it here10:15
mvodavmor2: is it just ff? or does e.g. epiphany has the same problem?10:15
davmor2asac: I just open FF10:16
davmor2mvo: I'll install it now and see10:16
asacdavmor2: in maximized window mode?10:16
davmor2asac: no just as it opens out of the box10:17
davmor2asac: the minute you max it or re-size so it fits it's fine10:18
mvodavmor2: that is on a fresh install or on your home machine?10:18
davmor2mvo: fresh install of todays iso10:19
mvodavmor2: thanks10:19
mvopitti: if the guest session fails, is there more log information beside Xorg.20.log ?10:19
asacdavmor2: so if you resize it now to proper size, stop it and start it again its ok?10:20
davmor2asac: 2 ticks10:21
davmor2mvo: epiphany starts full screen no issues10:22
mvodavmor2: thanks10:22
pittimvo: when does it fail?10:23
pittimvo: guest session has .xsession-errors, but that's wiped after it ends,  of course10:23
davmor2asac: Yes10:23
pittimvo: if it fails to startup, you can run /usr/share/gdm/guest-session/guest-session-launch from a terminal (as normal user)10:23
mvopitti: I suspect its something to do with my nvidia or somesuch, but I would like to check what exactly goes wrong10:23
mvopitti: thanks, I'm trying this now10:23
davmor2asac: I just reduced the window size by about quater - half an inch and it sits on the desktop nicely.10:24
davmor2asac: If I delete the .mozilla folder from home and open afresh though it is off the desktop again.10:25
mvopitti: hm, gdmflexiserver and then  "OK :20" and then it returns. is there a way to preserve files in the guest session somehow? or could I hack it up easily?10:25
mvopitti: nevermind, I think I found the guest-session-cleanup.sh and will modify that10:26
davmor2mvo, asac: Would you like me to open a new bug on the FF issue then?10:26
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mvodavmor2: please do, when I get the guest session going again I will see if I can reproduce it10:27
davmor2mvo: just move .mozilla somewhere other than home and open it up fresh :)10:28
mvopitti: I found it, bug #27576410:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 275764 in gdm-guest-session "guest-session-setup.sh does not work with bash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27576410:33
pittimvo: uh, *dash*isms?10:34
mvopitti: it seems to be one :)10:34
mvoits the first one I have seen so far!10:34
pittimvo: thanks, will fix ASAP10:35
mvono problem, its just a issue on non default setups anyway10:35
davmor2mvo, asac: there's already an open bug about this is there any info I can add to it for you?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/25794710:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 257947 in firefox-3.0 "After install of 8.10 alpha 4 Firefox opens with tool bar under top panel." [Undecided,Confirmed]10:36
mvodavmor2: I can reproduce it just fine10:36
davmor2mvo: just to confirm when you switch comiz off FF appears as intended.  So this will almost certainly only effect machines where compiz is on out of the box :)10:40
asacthere are more dupes: bug 257947 bug 275358 bug 25231710:40
mvoyeah, the issue seems to be that ff default size is ~900px10:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 257947 in firefox-3.0 "After install of 8.10 alpha 4 Firefox opens with tool bar under top panel." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25794710:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 275358 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox Titlebar Hidden By Menu Bar in Intrepid" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27535810:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 252317 in firefox-3.0 "FF3 Status bar hidden under Ubuntu Stastus bar" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25231710:40
mvoand compiz does not tell it that it can't have this size (metactiy does)10:40
* mvo wonders what he can do when he locked the guest session via gnome-screensaver10:41
asacdavmor2: do you have a setup where screen resolution is higher than 900 and that works with compiz?10:43
asac(my main system doesnt have compiz)10:43
davmor2asac: my main monitor goes higher but you'll need to give me some time to swap them over10:44
davmor2asac, mvo: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/ff-oversize.png10:54
mvodavmor2: right, I see this here too10:59
* mvo scratches his head10:59
asacbug 25231711:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 252317 in firefox-3.0 "FF3 Status bar hidden under Ubuntu Stastus bar (dup-of: 257947)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25231711:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 257947 in firefox-3.0 "After install of 8.10 alpha 4 Firefox opens with tool bar under top panel." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25794711:02
asacstates that screen.availHeight gives the wrong value11:02
asacmvo: so somehow compiz gives ffox the availHeight without substracting the panels11:03
mvoasac: what function does ff use to get it (or what file of the code do I need to look at)?11:03
asacmvo: will take a bit to find this out ... :) i remember that i had wierd issues with that in midbrowser11:04
asac(e.g. matchbox behaved differently than metacity)11:04
mvoasac: ok, thanks. I grep the source and see if I can find anything11:05
asacmvo: AvailRect = mRect = nsRect(0, 0, gdk_screen_width(), gdk_screen_height());11:09
mvoasac: in what package is that? not in firefox itself?11:10
asacmvo: thats in xulrunner-1.911:10
* mvo apt-get sources that11:10
asacmvo: you can better search and navigate in mxr.mozilla.org11:10
asacmvo: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/11:10
asacmvo: that code is in nsScreenGtk.cpp11:11
mvothanks asac11:11
davmor2asac, mvo: give me a ping if you sort it and you want it testing :)11:11
asachttp://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/widget/src/gtk2/nsScreenGtk.cpp#14711:11
asacmvo: ^^11:11
mvoasac: thanks, I look into it11:15
asacmvo: not really sure if the availRect boundaries are the problem or how ffox sets the position size .. most likely it uses a gdk_window function to do that11:15
davmor2asac: it sits nicely on the bottom panel11:17
mvoasac: hm, right. it might be as simple as that it uses gtk_window_move(0,0)11:17
asacmvo: shouldnt window_move do the right thing if you dont use a special window type?11:18
asac(window type like gnome-panel ;))11:19
mvoasac: its the window managers job to deal wit hthat, but I think there is some interaction going a  bong somewhere11:20
asacmvo: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/widget/src/gtk2/nsWindow.cpp#350311:22
asacthats the place where "Move" is implemented11:22
asacerr ... that was NativeResize ... http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/widget/src/gtk2/nsWindow.cpp#60011:22
asacthats move11:22
mvoasac: is there a way to get all the nice LOG() stuff without recompiling?11:34
davmor2mvo: do you have intel gfx on your machine?11:44
asacmvo: depends on what LOG that is11:45
asacmvo: you can get _all_ log that is available without special build flags with:11:46
asacNSPR_LOG_MODULES=all:511:46
asacerr11:46
asacNSPR_LOG_MODULES=all:5 firefox11:46
asacyou can also say NSPR_LOG_FILE=/tmp/my.log11:46
asacbut i guess there will be far too muhc logging then11:47
asacso try: NSPR_LOG_MODULES=widget:511:48
asac(thats the output with LOG(...)11:49
asacfor LOGDRAW you can append ,widgetDraw:511:49
asace.g. NSPR_LOG_MODULES=widget:5,widgetDraw:5 firefox11:50
asacmvo: ^^11:50
asaci guess thats more than enough ;)11:51
davmor2I got an issue with screensaver/power manager/compiz/intel driver on my intel box, in that, the screensaver kicks in fades to black but as soon as it is black triggers back to the desktop again I'm not sure which of the 4 things is causing the issue though as I don't get it on my nvidia/amd 64 system11:59
davmor2how can I lower down which is the cause of the issue?12:02
asacdavmor2: disable compiz on your intel system - to see if its compiz12:03
asacrelated.12:04
asacmvo: maybe look at bug 240736 too12:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 240736 in compiz "Firefox maximized under/over panels after screen size/xrandr changes" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24073612:23
asacmvo: the window is in a wierd tstate there : unmaximize + resize are enabled12:23
davmor2asac, mvo: it's compiz stopping the screensaver kicking in properly12:25
davmor2mvo: I've re-opened this bug and tagged it as compiz is that okay https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/25336712:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 253367 in compiz "Intrepid: Ubuntu screen saver kicks in then switches off again" [Undecided,New]12:43
mvodavmor2: thanks, I check that out12:47
huatsseb128: the patch you provided in bug 27439813:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 274398 in gnome-python-extras "Depends on no-longer-built libgdl-gnome-1-0 package" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27439813:09
huatsis aiming to remove the bdeps on the libgdl-gnome-1-0 right ?13:10
seb128huats: I didn't provide a patch in any bug13:11
huatsThis bug was fixed in the package gnome-python-extras - 2.19.1-0ubuntu913:11
huats---------------13:11
huatsgnome-python-extras (2.19.1-0ubuntu9) intrepid; urgency=low13:11
huats  * debian/patches/80_use_new_gdl.dpatch:13:11
huats    - correctly build using the gdl version (lp: #274398)13:11
huats -- Sebastien Bacher <seb128@ubuntu.com> Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:43:55 +020013:11
seb128huats: that's an upload13:11
seb128not a patch13:11
huatsI know13:12
huatsbut there is a file debian/patches/80_use_new_gdl.dpatch which is a patch :)13:12
huats(I might have used a short naming)13:12
seb128huats: the patch is to fix the build using the new gdl13:12
huatsisn't it also necessary to remove the search in the configure.ac for gdl-gnome-1.0 ?13:13
seb128huats: dunno, it built fine and I've too busy to look at something which is not broken13:14
huatsok I undertand13:15
huatsthanks seb128 :)13:15
seb128huats: the current version built fine using the current gdl13:15
seb128you're welcome ;-)13:15
huatsthat is the main thing (that it builds fine)13:15
didrockshi seb128!13:45
didrocksseb128: some work to achieve that will be uploaded after the beta freeze? (swfdec is stille in debian NEW)13:45
seb128hey didrocks13:45
seb128didrocks: no, beta is frozen13:46
didrockss/stille/sill :)13:46
seb128didrocks: for most of the week yes13:47
didrocksseb128: yes, I was just thinking that we could prepare some stuff to upload after the freeze13:48
seb128didrocks: why not, my list is pretty empty though, we did a good job to update GNOME before the freeze and they don't roll tarballs every week or that would be lot of work for everybody ;-)13:49
seb128didrocks: this week is a good one to do CD testing, bug triage and start fixing bugs for intrepid13:49
didrocksseb128: ok, will try to reinstall my VM from scratch and test it13:50
pittiseb128: ah, *phew*; the f-spot error just seems to be an URL quoting problem; while --import /tmp/gph works, --import /tmp/gphoto2-Medium\ auf\ usb%3A005\,014/ fails14:52
pittithat should be reasonably easy14:53
seb128ah good14:53
pittiand there are a couple of relevant upstream bug fixes, too14:55
pittiso I think I can handle this14:55
seb128pitti: ideally we should update to the new f-spot 0.514:57
mvohm, no video display still :/14:58
mvobut otherwise the improvements look quite impressive14:58
seb128same rational I had in hardy14:59
seb128f-spot is a buggy piece of software and updates are often a win over the current situation15:00
seb128grrra, something close xchat-gnome tabs when I switch workspace or something15:09
mvopitti: if you have a moment, could you check lp:~mvo/apport/mvo ? you may want to change it in a way that the filtering goes into package_impl or that it is solved via some sort of global bugpattern - I'm open for discussion here of course :)15:43
pittiseb128: yay f-spot upstream closing bugs which aren't fixed15:55
pittimvo: will do later15:55
seb128pitti: oh?15:55
pittiseb128: gnome bug 433829, reopened with a comment15:57
ubottuGnome bug 433829 in Import "Imported images with # in name emit error message on terminal" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43382915:57
seb128ok15:57
seb128mvo: I think my tab closing issue is a compiz bug16:14
mvoseb128: what tab closing issue?16:14
seb128mvo: I keep closing xchat-gnome tabs for some days16:15
seb128mvo: so, go to workspace 1, open an application, click on it so it has the focus, switch to an another workspace which has something open a focus that, switch back to workspace 116:16
seb128mvo: I think it used to focus the only dialog which is on this workspace, now the focus is still on the workspace which is not displayed16:17
seb128I often switch to a workspace where I've xchat-gnome, switch back to some other workpace using the keyboard and start typing16:17
seb128I expect the only thing being on screen to have the focus and I think it used to work this way16:17
seb128does that makes sense somehow?16:18
mvoit does, I will try to reproduce in a bit16:18
seb128mvo: I'll try using the intrepid compiz later, I've the ppa version right now and don't want to close my session16:19
mvoseb128: thanks16:21
mvolet me know what you find16:21
seb128try now, brb16:23
seb128re16:42
pittiseb128: bwah; so I fixed the import crash in f-spot, and it actually works now; but it sucks16:43
seb128pitti: f-spot sucks that's not really new :-(16:43
pittiseb128: it's slow as hell (I suppose it reads the full pics for getting the thumbnails) and it crashes if I import them twice, and I don't get the "target dir" button, etc.16:43
pittiI don't think I can fix all that by the beta16:43
seb128just push what you fixed now, that will do for beta16:43
seb128photo import is not the most import thing to try or get feedback on now16:44
seb128mvo: the intrepid version doesn't have the bug16:44
pittithe dialog I get for libgphoto is magnitudes faster and works much better16:44
pittiseb128: ok, I'll upload this16:44
pittiseb128: but it seems that using the fuse path takes away too much knowledge from f-spot16:45
pitti(uploaded)16:45
seb128pitti: so maybe we should reconsider the approch and disable the gvfs gphoto backend again as we did in hardy?16:46
pittiseb128: ideally we would only mount it when the user chooses to open it16:46
pitti(in nautilus)16:46
pittiso that we can keep the best of both worlds16:46
seb128pitti: that's easy to do, we just have to disable the gphoto automounting16:47
pittiseb128: or, of course, someone fixes f-spot to properly talk gvfs :)16:47
seb128pitti: that still create issues for people who double click on it and then try to use f-spot16:47
pittiseb128: but would that still mount the camera if you try to open it in nautilus? ("Browse files")16:47
seb128pitti: yes16:47
seb128hey Keybuk16:48
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mvoasac: compiz upstream fixed the ff screensize issue already, they are rockstars17:29
mvo^--- davmor2_away17:29
mvonow I just need to roll new packages :)17:29
asacmvo: thats really awesome17:31
mvoasac: I milestoned it and will add it tomorrow17:31
asacmvo: do you know which commit fixed that?17:31
mvoFixed in commits 3dd149ce5c465cf9b068aeb0bfdeb207907a836c and17:31
mvo633385e5e54147e750c6ca5a179f803373ab3e3e.17:31
asacmvo: lol ... do you have a link ;) ... for someone like me (a compiz foreigner without a visa ) ?17:32
mvohttp://gitweb.compiz-fusion.org/?p=compiz;a=log;h=45caca2220f75bfd20074c217ebee1082541354717:32
asaccool17:32
mvoeh17:32
mvosorry, wrong paste17:32
mvohttp://gitweb.compiz-fusion.org/?p=compiz;a=commitdiff;h=633385e5e54147e750c6ca5a179f803373ab3e3e17:32
asaci think i found it ;)17:32
mvook17:33
asacmvo: ok ... so that retroactively resizes/replaces the window?17:34
asacor is the workarea the root window from where the coordinates are relative?17:34
mvoI think it just overrides what ff wants, but that should be no problem, the window manager is free to do that17:35
mvoseb128: I just tried what you described with compiz, one open window in the each workspace, switch and check were the keyboard focus is17:36
mvobut no luck, seems to be switching it for me to the new window17:37
seb128mvo: no, it's17:37
seb128- go to workspace one, open gedit, click in the text area making sure the dialog has the focus (decoration color shows you that for example)17:37
seb128- click on the workspace switcher to an another workspace17:38
seb128workspace which has something open17:38
seb128does the dialog open gets the focus, ie is it colored, or do you have to click on it?17:38
seb128I've to click on it here17:38
mvoas soon as I switch the dialog in the new workspace gets the focus (with 0.7.8)17:39
mvomaybe somethign with the focus model? do you use click-to-focus or focus-follow-mouse?17:39
seb128click to focus17:39
seb128which is the default17:39
* mvo nods17:40
seb128you?17:40
mvoI tried both17:40
mvolet me restart my session17:40
seb128bah ok17:40
mvohm, can't - kvm still running17:40
seb128mvo: ok thanks17:40
seb128mvo: no hurry, did you add patches to the ppa recently?17:40
mvoI will do it after dinner or tomorrow17:40
seb128the version I was running is one week old17:40
mvono :/17:40
* mvo scratches his head17:41
mvomaybe (but very unlikely) driver dependant?17:41
seb128mvo: maybe try using a new user?17:41
mvoexxcellent idea17:41
seb128mvo: I doubt of it, that's working using the intrepid version17:41
mvoright17:41
seb128and video driver and input have not a lot in common usually17:42
mvono, same17:43
seb128mvo: same what?17:43
mvoseb128: do you have with a fresh user too?17:43
seb128mvo: well, I don't want to close my session and opening a new session will not use compiz, will it?17:44
mvothe guest session works for me17:44
mvoyeah, only nvidia can use compiz in the guest session currently17:44
seb128mvo: well, second session is not dri capable so no compiz no?17:44
seb128I'm using intel17:44
mvoyeah, you would have to create a new user I guess, not very urgent, just let me know if you try it17:45
seb128mvo: I'll try again later, but I was closing tabs by mistake for a week so it's pretty reliable here17:45
* mvo nods17:45
seb128mvo: I'll try after dinner17:45
mvoand you get it always when you follow the instructions posted?17:45
seb128well, it took me a while to notice why I was closing tabs in xchat-gnome17:46
seb128I always have xchat-gnome maximized on workspace 317:46
seb128and epiphany on some other workspace17:46
seb128and I switch between workspaces using alt-n17:47
mvoheh :) I can imagine that was puzzeling17:47
seb128so I do work on epiphany17:47
seb128alt-3 to read IRC17:47
seb128click with the mouse on a tab to read it17:47
seb128type something17:47
seb128alt-1 to go back to the browser17:48
seb128ctrl-W to close the tab once I'm done reading it17:48
crevettehello17:48
seb128and that closes the xchat-gnome tab17:48
seb128lut crevette17:48
crevetteseb128: I had an error while upgrading to capplets-data 1:2.24.0.1-0ubuntu1 few minutes ago17:49
crevettehttp://dpaste.com/81225/17:49
mvoseb128: ha! I can reproduce it now, when I do it via keypress *and* release the keys immediately (before the animation finishes)17:50
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mvohrm, now that does work again17:50
mvohow strange17:50
* mvo can't find a pattern17:51
seb128crevette: good so you can open a bug on the buggy translations on bugzilla.gnome.org17:52
seb128mvo: oh, I always release the key before the end of animation17:52
seb128mvo: I pretty quick at this alt-n thing and the animation not so ;-)17:52
crevetteseb128: this is a translation problem?17:53
seb128crevette: yes17:53
seb128crevette: control-center.schemas, one of the translations has no [] around the list17:55
crevettei'll try to open it, I'm carrying my son17:56
seb128crevette: oh, congratulations ;-)17:57
crevettetx17:57
crevetteyou didnt know it17:57
crevettehe's born near 1 month ago17:57
seb128you didn't say anything17:59
seb128or that was during my holidays17:59
crevetteIt's annonced on #gnomefr17:59
crevette:)17:59
seb128crevette: is everybody doing great then? ;-)17:59
seb128crevette: I'm not on that channel ;-)17:59
crevetteyep18:00
crevettehe is not growing that much18:00
crevettehe 's a bit lazy18:00
crevettebut it's better these days18:01
seb128ok18:03
* crevette is taking a video18:04
crevetteseb128: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/184567/2008-09-28-191301.ogv18:04
crevette:)18:04
seb128I'll watch it later the intel video driver seems to not like compiz or something18:06
crevettecompiz is bad18:06
crevette:)18:06
crevetteokay18:06
seb128sometimes ;-)18:06
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