| Rafik | hello | 15:24 |
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| Rafik | I would like to add #ubuntu-arabic to the channels list | 15:25 |
| Rafik | Can I simply add it to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat or is there any process i have to follow | 15:27 |
| Pici | Is this a LoCo? | 15:30 |
| Rafik | Pici, yes, it's a team for support in Arabic language | 15:44 |
| Rafik | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-arabic | 15:44 |
| Rafik | more info in English : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu-Arabic/Proposal | 15:46 |
| Pici | Rafik: Hm.. looks good to me. Have you seen our IRC channel setup documents: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/Coordination ? | 15:56 |
| Rafik | Pici, yes. | 16:01 |
| LjL | Rafik, there is already a LoCo channel for arabic, though | 17:31 |
| LjL | !sa | 17:31 |
| ubottu | For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join للغة العربية رجاء انظم #ubuntu-sa | 17:31 |
| Rafik | LjL, thanks | 17:33 |
| Rafik | sa is for Saudi Arabia, however is a single country while there is 21 others with Arabic as official language | 17:34 |
| LjL | that's true | 17:34 |
| LjL | but it says for the arabic language *or* saudi arabia | 17:34 |
| LjL | it's not merely for people from saudi arabia | 17:35 |
| Rafik | yes | 17:35 |
| LjL | in my opinion, it would be better to have one place for support in one language | 17:35 |
| Rafik | we wanted to have a single team for the arabic language, that's wy we created Ubuntu-arabic | 17:35 |
| Rafik | for the language, not geographical location | 17:35 |
| LjL | i see | 17:36 |
| LjL | are you in contact with the saudi arabia team too? | 17:36 |
| Rafik | Syntux did | 17:36 |
| Rafik | ubuntu-arabic is supposed to be the union of all arabic LoCos | 17:37 |
| LjL | that sounds like a good idea to me | 17:37 |
| Rafik | yep, thanks | 17:37 |
| LjL | i'm just unsure about the channel name. all other local support channels follow the two-letters thing... | 17:38 |
| LjL | although there is, i admit, an overlap between loco and support | 17:38 |
| Rafik | ar is for Argentina, so for Arabic I don't see how to name it differently | 17:39 |
| LjL | no, you're right, the rule is country abbreviation | 17:39 |
| LjL | in other channels it simply works like this | 17:39 |
| Rafik | hey Syntux | 17:39 |
| Rafik | yes | 17:39 |
| LjL | the teams involved decide on one channel to "sacrifice" for support (so to say) | 17:40 |
| Syntux | Good day | 17:40 |
| LjL | mind, i'm not sure that's the best idea, either... | 17:40 |
| LjL | hello Syntux | 17:40 |
| Rafik | Syntux, we are talking about #ubuntu-arabic | 17:40 |
| Syntux | Good day LjL :-) | 17:40 |
| Syntux | what about it ? | 17:40 |
| LjL | mostly just the name, as far as i can see, which i'm not sure about | 17:41 |
| LjL | Syntux: as far as the rest go, you can confirm it's a joint effort between arabic-speaking teams to provide support? | 17:41 |
| Syntux | LjL, sure, I can confirm that, it's one of our goals | 17:42 |
| Syntux | We planned to request changes from IRC team and Ubuntu website to refer to #Ubuntu-Arabic instead of SA and to Ubuntu Arabic instead of Israeli team on the website but we thought it's better to do so when we are approved. | 17:43 |
| Syntux | but it would be wonderful if we can get that kind of recognition now. | 17:43 |
| Rafik | Syntux, however sa isn't approved yet | 17:43 |
| LjL | wait - instead of the israeli team? | 17:43 |
| Syntux | LjL, yeah, if you check http://www.ubuntu.com/support/local you will find that Israeli team is listed for Arabic support when they cannot provide support in Arabic language. | 17:44 |
| Syntux | I believe that was at time when none of us existed but now we should take that responsibility and maybe extend anything Israeli team has built for Arabic support. | 17:45 |
| LjL | uh, you know what, i wasn't even aware of that page | 17:45 |
| LjL | !irc | 17:45 |
| ubottu | A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines | 17:45 |
| Syntux | you know, it's the time to file a bug against that point, I'm doing it now | 17:46 |
| LjL | Syntux: well yes, the israeli part just seems wrong, unless there's something i'm missing... | 17:46 |
| LjL | !il | 17:47 |
| ubottu | לשיחות בשפה העברית ולגישה לקהילת המשתמשים העברית אנא הקלד: | 17:47 |
| ubottu | /join #ubuntu-il | 17:47 |
| Syntux | LjL, as I mentioned, maybe they were the closest to support Arab user before we exists but now we should take the responsibility. | 17:47 |
| Syntux | LjL, you know Arabic language is formal in Israeli at least IIRC | 17:47 |
| LjL | i see | 17:47 |
| LjL | well, did you discuss it with the israeli team anyway? | 17:48 |
| Syntux | LjL, No, I tried to contact some of them to discuss another issue but we had communication problem; I don't know Hebrew and they aren't good in English. | 17:49 |
| Rafik | Syntux, in arabic ? | 17:49 |
| Syntux | LjL, anyhow, I'm not sure if it's critical, I mean if there is an Arabic team then it's the Arabic interface and all Arabic related issues should be forwarded to the team instead of any other team. | 17:50 |
| Syntux | Rafik, it wasn't an option. | 17:50 |
| LjL | well, for me it's critical that irc people involved in related projects (or for that matter, overlapping projects) are properly communicating | 17:50 |
| LjL | lack of that easily results in a mess, in my experience | 17:51 |
| LjL | if they don't speak arabic though, then the information about that on the ubuntu.com page must be just plain wrong... | 17:51 |
| Syntux | LjL, I believe so, a plain wrong :-) | 17:51 |
| Rafik | shall we join #ubuntu-website ? :) | 17:52 |
| LjL | maybe, though i'd like to ask an israeli team member about it, too | 17:52 |
| LjL | there must be one who speaks english | 17:53 |
| Rafik | LjL, or may be we should write them in Arabic ? | 17:53 |
| Syntux | LjL, Rafik LP bug 275971 | 17:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 275971 in ubuntu-website "Ubuntu Local support - Arabic Language" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/275971 | 17:54 |
| Syntux | LjL, yeah we should fine one who can communicate in English or Arabic to get it done | 17:54 |
| Syntux | LjL, but reviewing the history and what we currently have tells that it's plain wrong, on the website they listed Hebrew team and on IRC they recognize -SA team. | 17:55 |
| Syntux | I believe something went wrong or something were lost in translation :-) | 17:55 |
| Rafik | Syntux, <Ddorda> there is no Arabic support here | 18:00 |
| Rafik | on #ubuntu-il | 18:00 |
| LjL | Ddorda is an Israel Team member, so that should be accurate | 18:00 |
| Rafik | yes | 18:01 |
| LjL | !sa | 18:13 |
| ubottu | For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join للغة العربية رجاء انظم #ubuntu-sa | 18:13 |
| LjL | what does the arabic part say? | 18:13 |
| LjL | (aside from probably being in the wrong order) | 18:15 |
| LjL | Rafik, Syntux? | 18:17 |
| Rafik | i'm back, sorry | 18:26 |
| Rafik | "for Arabic language please join" | 18:27 |
| Rafik | LjL | 18:27 |
| LjL | thanks | 18:28 |
| Rafik | you welcome | 18:28 |
| Rafik | will you update it ? | 18:28 |
| LjL | Rafik: can you translate "For the Saudi Arabia local team, please join ..." for me? | 18:28 |
| Rafik | what about " The Saudi Arabia loco team channel" => قناة الفريق المحلي للعربية السعودية | 18:30 |
| Rafik | or best | 18:31 |
| Rafik | للانظمام لقناة الفريق المحلي للعربية السعودية : | 18:32 |
| * Nafallo can see weird characters | 18:32 | |
| LjL | that works | 18:32 |
| Rafik | to join the Saudi Arabia loco team channel | 18:32 |
| * LjL can see weird characters too, they say "Nafallo", weird and funny sequence of letter... | 18:32 | |
| Nafallo | :-) | 18:33 |
| * Rafik ايضا يرى ذلك | 18:33 | |
| Rafik | (see that too) | 18:33 |
| Nafallo | I was more... my irssi works! :-P | 18:34 |
| Nafallo | can see UTF-8 and stuff | 18:34 |
| LjL | !no sa is <reply> For Arabic language support, please join #ubuntu-arabian للغة العربية رجاء انظم - For the Saudi Arabia team, join #ubuntu-sa للانظمام لقناة الفريق المحلي للعربية السعودية | 18:34 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that LjL | 18:34 |
| LjL | !sa | 18:34 |
| ubottu | For Arabic language support, please join #ubuntu-arabian للغة العربية رجاء انظم - For the Saudi Arabia team, join #ubuntu-sa للانظمام لقناة الفريق المحلي للعربية السعودية | 18:34 |
| LjL | Rafik: does that read right in your client? | 18:34 |
| LjL | err, except i wrote -arabian | 18:34 |
| LjL | !no sa =~ s/arabian/arabic/ | 18:35 |
| ubottu | I know nothing about sa =~ s/arabian/arabic yet, LjL | 18:35 |
| LjL | !sa =~ s/arabian/arabic/ | 18:35 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that LjL | 18:35 |
| Nafallo | !sa | 18:35 |
| ubottu | For Arabic language support, please join #ubuntu-arabic للغة العربية رجاء انظم - For the Saudi Arabia team, join #ubuntu-sa للانظمام لقناة الفريق المحلي للعربية السعودية | 18:35 |
| LjL | !arabic is <alias> sa | 18:35 |
| ubottu | But arabic already means something else! | 18:35 |
| LjL | !arabic | 18:35 |
| ubottu | For Arabic language support, please join #ubuntu-arabic للغة العربية رجاء انظم - For the Saudi Arabia team, join #ubuntu-sa للانظمام لقناة الفريق المحلي للعربية السعودية | 18:35 |
| LjL | !-arabic | 18:36 |
| ubottu | arabic is <alias> sa - added by LjL on 2007-01-22 19:07:42 | 18:36 |
| Rafik | I'll rewrite for !sa and give another for !arabic | 18:36 |
| LjL | Rafik: perhaps better to have them in the same factoid, at least for now, as people in #ubuntu are probably used to giving !sa to arabic speakers | 18:37 |
| Rafik | ok | 18:37 |
| LjL | surely, editing stuff written half left-to-right and half right-to-left is a mess :| | 18:40 |
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