[00:00] <Odd-rationale> Myrtti: hey, thanks for the tip about terminator... it is just awesome!
[00:23]  * flyback swears this is the last canucking time he spends half or all of his weekend working on work stuff even just remote
[00:25] <cody-somerville> floating, hmm?
[00:25] <cody-somerville> erm
[00:25] <cody-somerville> flyback, hmm?
[01:34]  * flyback bbl
[03:18]  * SmoothPorcupine still has no luck with TS + mic
[07:05] <bassboi> :D
[09:00] <telephone> I'm running 8.04 and am wondering how to make my laptop monitor turn off when closing the lid?
[09:00] <telephone> currently it doesn't even go blank, it just stays on
[09:00] <telephone> any ideas?
[09:02] <favro> telephone: what brand/model of lappy is it?
[09:02] <telephone> dell latitude d630
[09:05] <cody-somerville> You can configure it in the gnome power manager settings
[09:06] <telephone> is there anything I can do from the terminal?
[09:06] <telephone> I remember some type of power manager from Ubuntu
[09:06] <telephone> but not really in Xubuntu
[09:15] <telephone> oh wait, I see some power settings through the Screensaver
[09:27] <homebrewcider> having a bit of trouble getting my new monitor working through DVI, can anyone help please
[09:28] <homebrewcider> is it a case of editing my xorg.conf file?
[09:28] <cody-somerville> Probably not
[09:31] <homebrewcider> any ideas?
[09:33] <cody-somerville> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh
[09:33] <cody-somerville> that'll probably do the trick
[09:35] <homebrewcider> what's the phigh part?
[09:37] <favro> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg maybe?
[09:37] <homebrewcider> yeah, that's what I was thinking
[09:38] <favro> it seems most folks plug only into dvi and it works - *most*
[09:40] <homebrewcider> nope, not me
[09:41] <homebrewcider> still not
[09:41] <homebrewcider> log out?
[09:41] <favro> do you have options for diff resolutions in xorg.conf?
[09:42] <favro> you have to logout/in after doing the reconfigure
[09:42] <homebrewcider> not after running that command i don't
[09:42] <homebrewcider> will log out
[09:53] <homebrewcider> no, no joy
[09:54] <homebrewcider> that dpkg script just stripped back xorg.conf to basically nothing, no resolution options
[09:54] <TheSheep> homebrewcider: try sudo displyconfig-gtk
[09:59] <homebrewcider> detects plug and play at 640 x 480
[10:31] <homebrewcider> no, no DVI, anything else I can do?
[10:32] <favro> your monitor wasn't listed in displayconfig-gtk?
[10:33] <homebrewcider> yes, now shows up there as lcd, but dvi doesn't seem to be working
[10:35] <favro> whats's your vid card then?
[10:35] <homebrewcider> geforce 8800gt
[10:36] <homebrewcider> in my nvidia xserver settingd, my monitor still shows up as crt
[10:44] <favro> it seems you need to use the nvidia driver for dvi
[10:44] <favro> !nvidia
[10:58] <vussvillem> hello! has anyone had success with adesklets on Xubuntu?
[10:59] <favro> I played with it a while ago - worked ok
[11:02] <vussvillem> I installed two desklets - Calendar and Menu. Everything seems to be OK. Except that when I run in terminal: desklets. There is some flashing on the screen but desklets do not appear
[11:04] <vussvillem> Also. When I had downloaded the desklets and installed them, I was asked weather I want to register them or test them I chose register without knowing what that actually means :)
[11:05] <Myrtti> I prefer screenlets myself...
[11:08] <favro> I can't remember how to work adesklets - I've moved to conky
[11:10] <favro> vussvillem: adekslets --xfce4 -i is how you start it
[11:13] <vussvillem> favro: I have already done that. I installed Menu and Calendar. Then went to the ~/.desklets directory and installed them by "./****.py". Then did adesklets or adesklets --xfce4 without any success. Screen just flashed but no desklets appeared.
[11:15] <vussvillem> I am interested in menu and calendar and maybe sticky notes, but conky is for system monitor only?
[11:16] <favro> I use conky for system email weather (sometimes) fuzzy clock etc
[11:18] <favro> vussvillem: some reading for you - http://adesklets.sourceforge.net/forum_archive/topics/341.html
[11:23] <vussvillem> favro: thank you very much! But I seem to have some other issue
[11:24] <favro> do you get an error showing in terminal at all?
[11:27] <vussvillem> If I do "desklets :" I get that "press tab for hints | 0 >>>"
[11:37] <vussvillem> OK, when I tried "adesklets --user" I had to point where I want the desklets appear and they appeared :D
[11:37] <favro> vussvillem: about half way down here - http://adesklets.sourceforge.net/doc/en/Frequently-asked-questions.html
[11:45] <vussvillem> Thank You fo your time, Favro. You have been very patient with me. I'll check it out later, but if the answer was really in the FAQ, then just excuse me of being so stupid :)
[11:45] <favro> hehe np :)
[12:02] <whyking> hi
[12:02] <whyking> where can I find the database of the deb packages?
[12:02] <TheSheep> http://packages.ubuntu.com
[12:02] <whyking> like gentoo has /usr/local/portage
[12:02] <whyking> TheSheep, locally
[12:03] <TheSheep> whyking: /var/lib/dpkg
[12:03] <whyking> TheSheep, thanks!
[12:03] <whyking> TheSheep, one package wants to a dependency which has been renamed
[12:04] <whyking> TheSheep, do you a good way to fix that?
[12:05] <TheSheep> no
[12:05] <whyking> it wants libgsl0 which has been replaced by libgsl0ldbl
[12:05] <whyking> hm.. damn
[12:06] <whyking> is there a way to create an alias or sth?
[12:28] <bill--22> hi . when 4.6 xfce add to xubuntu 8.10?
[12:29] <nnull> !lowmem
[12:33] <nnull> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems#Install%20an%20entire%20lightweight%20system -- how do i install so its blank and i can do this?
[12:34] <knome> nnull, what do you mean?
[12:35] <favro> nnull: I use the server cd for a lightweight desktop - there is also a net install and a minimal install
[12:35] <Skry> i used minimal install and from it installed command line only system
[12:35] <nnull> how do you do minimal install
[12:36] <favro> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[12:37] <Skry> get cd-image, burn, boot, enter cli at prompt
[12:37] <nnull> Skry¬ i dont need to install?
[12:38] <Skry> uhm?
[12:38] <nnull> burn,boot,enter cli
[12:38] <nnull> shouldnt install be after boot or?
[12:39] <Skry> just read that link favro pasted :P
[12:39] <nnull> lolk
[12:40] <nnull> wow its tiny
[12:40] <favro> 10mb iirc
[12:41] <nnull> wth is the 4 gig of stuff that comes in a normal ubuntu install heh
[12:42] <Skry> remember to do commandline install when your installing
[12:44] <knome> i find this a bit misleading: ubuntu is associated with gnome imho, and now they brand the minimal cd as ubuntu :P
[12:45]  * nnull agree's
[12:48] <favro> what else could it be called?
[12:48] <knome> Buntu?
[12:48] <knome> :P
[12:48] <nnull> minibuntu
[12:48] <favro> fair enough :)
[12:48] <nnull> :)
[12:58] <Skry> isnt there minibuntu already?
[12:59] <favro> !minibuntu
[12:59] <Skry> minimal cd is minimal only on size, it will install gnome and everything by default
[13:00] <favro> http://ubuntu-mini-remix.crealabs.it/
[13:00] <Skry> there's also this one http://ubuntulite.tuxfamily.org/
[13:15] <calanya_> hello. I need a little help with xubuntu, in regards to an external monitor and a laptop.
[13:18] <mirex> Hi !
[13:18] <mirex> I have installed xubuntu 8.04 and I'm happy with it.
[13:19] <nnull> i cant find ubuntulite irc chan
[13:19] <nnull> its not where it says it is on their site
[13:19] <nnull> this iswhat i mean
[13:19] <nnull> anything for old pcs is old and gone
[13:19] <nnull> :<
[13:20] <knome> nnull, why not use the minimal cd?
[13:21] <nnull> because knowone answered my question of: "if the minimal cd is only 10 mb, whats the 4 gig of stuff that comes in normal ubuntu/x/k/server/any ?
[13:21] <knome> nnull, the minimal cd doesn't include any software
[13:21] <nnull> i know
[13:21] <knome> nnull, neither a desktop environment
[13:21] <favro> the server is 0nly about 450mb
[13:22] <nnull> but if hardy heron itself is 10 meg whats all the stuff it installs?
[13:22] <knome> nnull, libraries, software, de, ...
[13:22] <nnull> hmm k
[13:23] <knome> nnull, minimal is just command line
[13:23] <nnull> so is a server install tho
[13:23] <knome> nnull, of course you can install all the same stuff for it
[13:23] <nnull> and its 500 odd meg or 450 as favro said
[13:23] <knome> nnull, server install has some server software
[13:23] <knome> nnull, i think apache, php, mysql etc.
[13:23] <knome> nnull, minimal doesn't have those
[13:24] <nnull> ahh k
[13:24] <favro> it does? I can't find it
[13:24] <nnull> and apache etc are big huh?
[13:24] <knome> favro, woot? :)
[13:24] <knome> nnull, well bigger than just a command line...
[13:24] <favro> :)
[13:24] <nnull> hmm k
[13:24] <knome> nnull, if you want absolute minimal system, use minimal.
[13:24] <knome> nnull, you can install whatever you like in it
[13:25] <nnull> but i will download alot huh
[13:25] <knome> nnull, that's a choice one has to make
[13:25] <knome> nnull, if you download the normal cd, you will anyway dl a lot
[13:25] <nnull> but i guess no more then if i downloaded the iso's with the extra stuff on it im not using..
[13:25] <nnull> knome¬ yea
[13:25] <knome> nnull, yes.
[13:36] <Skry> i tought that difference between minimal and alternative was that minimal fetches packages from net which alternative has on cd
[13:36] <Skry> both can be used to install minimal system
[13:36] <knome> Skry, i'm not 100% sure, but that sounds logical
[13:36] <knome> Skry, but of course minimal is quicker to dl
[13:36] <Skry> true. juist did minimal install yesterday :)
[13:37] <knome> if i had a spare monitor, i'd try a minimal installation
[13:38] <knome> and i will have in few months \o/
[13:39] <Skry> well, which ever media you're about to use you need to start it by typin cli or cli-expert at boot prompt
[13:39] <knome> :)
[13:40] <Skry> dont remember if alternate has graphical menu for that or not, but at least with minimal you have to
[13:41] <knome> yeah
[13:42] <Skry> i did minimal install on my "spare" pc, 2.4GHz P4, i setup raid0 array where i installed and i must say everything just flies
[13:48] <knome> yeah
[13:48] <knome> i have a lot of spare pcs
[13:48] <knome> but not monitors
[14:21] <hubatka> hi there, for some reason I have no audio. Using intel hardware - http://paste.ubuntu.com/52091/
[14:34] <Skry> hubatka, is every channel in alsamixer unmuted?
[14:35] <hubatka> Skry: yes, everything in unmuted
[14:39] <Skry> laptop?
[14:40] <thenullman1> so I'm not sure if any of you were in here yesterday, but I'm having a problem with grub I believe.  Dual booting w2k and xub. installed w2k 1st and no problem there, once grub installed, can't shutdown and power back up - restarts work, suspend/sleep in w2k works, not in xub - but that could be b/c of system resources - it doesn't break grub to sleep in xub, but when coming out I get background and no icons for like 5-10 min and 
[14:40] <thenullman1> I reinstalled xub last night - same problem
[14:41] <thenullman1> reinstalling grub on sda5 fixes problem until next shutdown and when I do that it gives me options to reinstall grub on sda1, 2, 5,6, but 2 and 6 are read-only
[14:41] <thenullman1> I partitioned right on reinstall of OS
[14:42] <hubatka> Skry: nope, compaq desktop
[15:53] <thenullman1> vidd, where r u
[16:39] <ron_o> how would one go about decompressing an entire directory with tar.gz files in it?
[16:39] <ron_o> my command is: tar -xvf *.tar.gz
[16:39] <ron_o> tar: <name>.tar.gz: Not found in archive
[16:40] <ron_o> but I can decompress individual ones by name.
[16:40] <Awsoonn> hi all, I'd like to give xubuntu a go to see if it saves my system on memory use compared to ubuntu. Is there a way to remove all of the packages ubuntu-desktop brings with it so that I can have the equivilant to xubuntu without a total reinstall?
[16:41] <Awsoonn> I have to be ready for this thursday's hugday afterall :)
[16:41] <ron_o> Awsoonn, there probably is but a non-expert is best not to try it.
[16:41] <ron_o> is your /home directory on a different partition?
[16:42] <Awsoonn> my level of knowlage is not expert, but I'm not afraid of anything.
[16:42] <Awsoonn> nope /home is on same partition :D for this computer at least
[16:42] <ron_o> why do you think there are so many distros of ubuntu? for one thing with ubuntu,you get all these application that startup with the system, especially the hog nautilus.
[16:43] <Awsoonn> *nods* running te default system on 256MB of ram.. not fun
[16:43] <ron_o> that means you'd need to save everything from /home and then reinstall from scratch.
[16:43] <ron_o> IMHO, that's your best bet.
[16:43] <ron_o> Awsoonn, I have less than that, but I went from xubuntu to fluxbox. Perhaps you should do the same.
[16:44] <ron_o> I'm doing great with fluxbox window manager and I just use xubunutu for all the help you get.
[16:44] <ron_o> what cpu?
[16:45] <Awsoonn> I might go back to fluxbox... but not this week.
[16:45] <Awsoonn> cp is a 1.6 i think
[16:45]  * Awsoonn looks
[16:45] <ron_o> ahh, better than mine.
[16:45] <ron_o> 1 Ghz here. :/
[16:45] <Awsoonn> 1.8
[16:45] <Awsoonn> wow, you really use that machine?
[16:45] <Awsoonn> :P
[16:45] <ron_o> and to think, my other computer is just sitting there with a core2duo and 2 gig RAM. :`(   the mobo went.
[16:45] <ron_o> oh it ain't bad at all.
[16:46] <ron_o> except for video that is too high a resolution.
[16:46] <Awsoonn> how do you install fluxbox usually? just use an xubuntu disc and apt-get fluxbox?
[16:46] <ron_o> Awsoonn, yes, or you can go straight to fluxubuntu. :)
[16:46] <Awsoonn> or I can grab some gentoo action
[16:46] <Awsoonn> :/
[16:46] <ron_o> but I like this combo. From time to time I'll use xubuntu to help me out.
[16:46] <ron_o> hehe, gentoo. :)
[16:47] <ron_o> there's a great tutorial on setting fluxbox,  but gentoo is a pain in the arse.
[16:47]  * Awsoonn has a secret love of gentoo but no cd's
[16:47] <ron_o> I used Sabayon and it really isn't for the average folk.
[16:47] <Awsoonn> black cds that is
[16:47] <Awsoonn> oh, havn't heard of that one
[16:47] <ron_o> black cds?
[16:47] <Awsoonn> *perks up and googles*
[16:47] <Awsoonn> blank**
[16:48] <ron_o> Sabayon is a derivative of Gentoo but it comes with a fricking broken tree to start. It's just Gentoo with everything added, and, man, what a pain.
[16:48] <ron_o> I'll never try that one again.
[16:48] <Awsoonn> haha
[16:48] <ron_o> hmm, getting off topic here.
[16:48] <Awsoonn> what, this channel has a topic?
[16:48] <ron_o> yah, xubuntu. And they are pretty strict.
[16:48] <Awsoonn> good thing they arn't here
[16:48] <Awsoonn> :D
[16:49] <Awsoonn> you're herea getting me to board the flux ship
[16:49] <Awsoonn> hehe
[16:49] <ron_o> btw, I asked this question earlier. You might know it: how would one go about decompressing an entire directory with tar.gz files in it?
[16:49] <ron_o> I love fluxbox. Man is it easy.
[16:49] <Awsoonn> like, a dir of tar files?
 my command is: tar -xvf *.tar.gz
 tar: <name>.tar.gz: Not found in archive
[16:49] <ron_o> yah.
[16:50] <Awsoonn> :/ kk just a sec
[16:50]  * ron_o is way too used to gui. I'm starting to get into CLI now.
[16:57] <Awsoonn> ah
[16:57] <Awsoonn> yea, what the * does is adds all the filenames that match to the endo fo the line there.
[16:58] <Awsoonn> so really what you'd have to do is write a short bash script to do it for you so that it only untars one file at a time and goes through all the files that match your filextention
[16:58] <Awsoonn> that's how I'd do it
[16:59] <Awsoonn> *nods* maybe there is a better way though.
[16:59] <ron_o> I don't get why the wildcard doesn't work for tar is all.
[17:00] <Awsoonn> well, lets say you have 2 tarball in a dir
[17:00] <Awsoonn> it will expand the command
[17:00] <ron_o> hehe, I got it: http://gleez.com/articles/it-systems/unzip-untar-all-tar-gz-files-specified-directory
[17:00] <Awsoonn> :3
[17:00] <ron_o> it just took some time to find it with google.
[17:00] <Awsoonn> perfeect!
[17:02] <Awsoonn> find $UNTAR_PATH *.tar.gz -exec tar xzvf {} \;   <= sexy
[17:02] <ron_o> finding it in the tar.gz file?
[17:02] <ron_o> that's the issue?
[17:02] <Odd-rationale> Awsoonn: were you looking for something like this? http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[17:02] <Awsoonn> the problem is that bash will expand the command 'tar -xf *.tar' to 'tar -xf 1.tar 2.tar 3.tar'
[17:03] <ron_o> this command worked. Look down a little bit: for i in *.tar.gz; do echo working on $i; tar xvzf $i ; done
[17:03] <Awsoonn> and tar itself can only untar one thing at a time,
[17:03] <Awsoonn> Odd-rationale: oooh you are the man
[17:03] <Awsoonn> thatnks!
[17:03] <Odd-rationale> np
[17:04] <Odd-rationale> i started using fluxbox again as well... pcmanfm is a great file manager...
[17:04] <ron_o> I like it..
[17:05] <Odd-rationale> fluxbox? or pcmanfm?
[17:05] <Odd-rationale> heres my screenie: http://imagebin.ca/view/Jrt2xM08.html
[17:05] <ron_o> how is pcmanfm on resources?
[17:05] <ron_o> I like thunar. but like to try others.
[17:05] <Odd-rationale> ron_o: probably lighter than thunar...
[17:06] <ron_o> I like the page you gave about going back to xubuntu.
[17:06] <Odd-rationale> ron_o: but les features... like video thumbnailing...
[17:06] <ron_o> I can always try.
[17:06] <Odd-rationale> plus pcmanfm has tabs... :)
[17:06] <Awsoonn> I like being able to listen to pandora and ssh..... XD
[17:06] <Awsoonn> that's all I wanted
[17:07] <Awsoonn> and how I ended up in here
[17:09] <ron_o> I was laughing the other day at how much help you get from linux OSs compared to, at least, Windows.
[17:09] <ron_o> like 80% of the time I get an reply to my question within a half hour.
[17:09] <Odd-rationale> community support ftw!
[17:10] <Awsoonn> yes indeed
[17:10] <Awsoonn> do you deal with RHEL often?
[17:12] <ron_o> pcmanfm isn't in the repos..
[17:13] <ron_o> I know there's a deb file, but I hate when I need to go find the dependancies.
[17:13] <Odd-rationale> !find pcmanfm
[17:14] <Odd-rationale> i think there is a PPA
[17:14] <ron_o> PPA?
[17:14] <Odd-rationale> personal package archive
[17:14] <Odd-rationale> launchpad feature
[17:14] <Odd-rationale> !ppa
[17:15] <Odd-rationale>  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/lxde/ubuntu hardy main
[17:15] <Odd-rationale>  deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/lxde/ubuntu hardy main
[17:15] <Odd-rationale> those are it ^
[17:16] <Odd-rationale> pcmanfm is the official fm of lxde.
[17:17] <ron_o> thanks!
[17:18] <Odd-rationale> ron_o: i am assuimg you know how to add repos... ?
[17:21] <ron_o> yah.. :)
[17:28] <ron_o> I gotta upgrede to hardy....
[17:28] <ron_o>  soon.
[17:28] <ron_o> just a bit paranoid. This is my only PC working ATM
[17:28] <zoredache> make a full backup...  Then you can upgrade without worrying
[17:28] <zoredache> if anything breaks, just restore
[17:28] <Awsoonn> *nods*
[17:28] <Awsoonn> fixing is half the fun anyhoo
[17:28] <Awsoonn> :D
[17:29]  * Awsoonn is indeed member of bugsquad
[17:29] <Awsoonn> well, I ran the command to make my system pure xubuntu... I'm gonna reboot and see if ti worked.. :)
[17:29] <Awsoonn> I hope to see you soon
[17:30] <Awsoonn> *also my only working computer atm*
[17:31] <thenullman1> anyone know how to fix grub
[17:31] <thenullman1> I can't shutdown and come back up without error18
[17:34] <thenullman1> restart works
[17:34] <zoredache> so is this a pure linux system, or a dual-boot setup?  When you say restart works, where you booted to windows before the restart, or what?
[17:35] <zoredache> google seems to suggest error18 is a BIOS issue...
[17:35] <thenullman1> dual boot, loaded w2k 1st then installed xubut
[17:35] <thenullman1> bios didn't have problem with only windows on the machine...
[17:35] <thenullman1> so I think it's grub, but idk
[17:35] <thenullman1> the bios sees the size of the drive
[17:36] <thenullman1> I've seen what ur looking at I think
[17:36] <thenullman1> what are typical partion percentages
[17:36] <zoredache> how old of a computer are we talking about...   One of the issues is related to having a bios that won't allow botting past 8gb.
[17:37] <thenullman1> I have about 11gb to work with and I just did a / and a swap
[17:37] <thenullman1> drive is 20gb, but yes, it's an old sony vaio pcgr505ts
[17:37] <thenullman1> I did a bios update
[17:37] <thenullman1> p3 800mhz, laptop, 128mb ram
[17:37] <Awsoonn> If you're comfortable with changing BIOS settings, you could check harddisk mode. If it's LBA or AUTO try changing it to NORMAL.
[17:38] <zoredache> thenullman1: swap should be about 2 times the size of ram.
[17:38] <thenullman1> I didauto partition with the free space left
[17:38] <thenullman1> I think it gave it 384 swap and the rest /
[17:38] <zoredache> thats fine
[17:38] <thenullman1> I could try the bios setting awsoonn
[17:39] <zoredache> unless you know you need partitions a certain way, just letting it auto detect is usually a good choice
[17:39] <thenullman1> would it possibly lose my config or would I be able to change it backafter trying?
[17:39] <thenullman1> k
[17:39] <thenullman1> idk why it showed this, butI've hadto reinstall Grub and sda1,2,5,6 showed up as options
[17:39] <zoredache> loose your config from changing the bios?  No, you shouldn't loose anything
[17:39] <thenullman1> 2 and 6 are r/0
[17:39] <thenullman1> *r/o
[17:40] <thenullman1> I didn't think so
[17:40] <Awsoonn> sda# # # # are partitions on that disk
[17:40] <thenullman1> yes
[17:40] <thenullman1> but wouldthe xub. setup show the windows partition?
[17:41] <thenullman1> I should only have 3
[17:41] <Awsoonn> can you paste bin me the output of sudo fdisk -l
[17:41] <thenullman1> it's fat32
[17:41] <Awsoonn> the sda# # # show partions, not file syste, it woudl not care what is on there at taht point, you could have your cat in there for all it knows.
[17:42] <Awsoonn> :3
[17:42] <thenullman1> ok,might take mea bit - have to boot into xub. - I'll do now and be back
[17:42]  * Awsoonn promises to learn to type soon
[17:42] <thenullman1> ok, but why the 4th
[17:42] <thenullman1> idk
[17:42] <Awsoonn> why the 4th is missing?
[17:42] <thenullman1> no why there at all
[17:43] <zoredache> because you didn't create a 4th
[17:43] <thenullman1> w2k is 1, 2 idk, 5 is /, 6 is swap
[17:43] <zoredache> 2 is most likely the extended partition
[17:43] <thenullman1> ahhh
[17:43] <thenullman1> that makes sense
[17:43] <thenullman1> it said it was r/o
[17:44] <thenullman1> ok,Awsoonn,I'll paste that in a few min.
[17:44] <Awsoonn> see, hdd's used to be only devisable into 4 partitions,called primary partitions, then as zoredache says, 5 and up are logical partions
[17:46] <thenullman1> I remember that now
[17:49] <Awsoonn> hey, best low resouces instant mesenger?
[17:49] <Awsoonn> is there something better than pidgin?
[17:49] <knome> Awsoonn, bitlbee :P
[17:49] <thenullman1> pidgin?
[17:49] <knome> thenullman1, pidgin, formerly gaim
[17:51] <Awsoonn> knome: are you serious? a CLI IM program?
[17:52]  * Awsoonn is skeptical
[17:52] <knome> Awsoonn, you didn't say cli
[17:52] <knome> Awsoonn, or not cli
[17:52] <knome> Awsoonn, :P
[17:52] <thenullman1> oh, I didn't see awsoonn's 2nd line
[17:52] <thenullman1> sawry
[17:52] <Odd-rationale> or finch.... uses libpurple like pidgin...
[17:52] <knome> Awsoonn, and yes, i'm serious; i use it every day
[17:52] <Odd-rationale> but bitlbee is not nesecarily cli....
[17:53] <Awsoonn> ohhh I seee..
[17:53] <Odd-rationale> you can use xchat with bitlbee
[17:53] <Awsoonn> this is awesome!
[17:53] <Awsoonn> or irssi
[17:53] <knome> yes
[17:53] <Awsoonn> *nods* I think you just made my day knome, how do I get started with it?
[17:54] <knome> Awsoonn, connect to im.bitlbee.org with an irc client
[17:54] <knome> Awsoonn, it gives you instructions
[17:56] <thenullman1> awsoonn: http://pastebin.com/m60dc6206
[17:58] <Awsoonn> thenullman1: did you play with teh bios options?
[17:58] <Awsoonn> I saw a few reports of that helping.
[17:59] <thenullman1> not yet
[17:59] <thenullman1> lemme try
[18:00] <Awsoonn> knome: to you use im.bitlbee.org or your own computer as the server?
[18:00] <knome> Awsoonn, i use testing.bitlbee.org, it always runs the latest rev
[18:01] <Odd-rationale> Awsoonn: of course you're always safer using your own server...
[18:01] <knome> Awsoonn, of course you're always safer when not using any im client at all...
[18:03] <Awsoonn> :D
[18:03] <Awsoonn> *nods* I prefer to jsut unplug from teh internet and then jack in for 30 seconds for e-mail only
[18:03] <knome> Odd-rationale, you should always wear a foliohat
[18:03] <Awsoonn> *nods*
[18:04] <Odd-rationale> yep...
[18:04] <knome> Awsoonn, oh no, in 30 seconds your back account and life will be get robbed
[18:04] <knome> oh sorry, you won't have a life if you're that paranoid
[18:04] <Awsoonn> but only ASCII e-mails with a valid pgp signed message from ppl I have physicly excahgne fingerprints
[18:04] <knome> Awsoonn, >__<
[18:05] <knome> Awsoonn, that comment reminds me of one my friends
[18:05] <knome> Awsoonn, he *always* does that
[18:07] <Awsoonn> :D
[18:09] <thenullman1> so I'm not seeing an option to change it in the bios
[18:09] <thenullman1> it is in lba mode
[18:09] <thenullman1> I can change 32 bit i/o to enabled
[18:10] <thenullman1> wait
[18:10] <thenullman1> it has preset stuff
[18:11] <thenullman1> user is you enter the parameters, auto it selects them, cdrom and removable
[18:13] <thenullman1> I can disable lba mode control "enabling lba causes logical block addressing to be used in place of cylinders, heads & sectors"
[18:13] <thenullman1> is that what I want?
[18:16] <thenullman1> that didn't work
[18:16] <thenullman1> I got error 18 right away
[18:16] <thenullman1> maybe b/c I was in the bios too long
[18:19] <Awsoonn> you can stay in teh bios all day, no effect
[18:19] <Awsoonn> turing off lba was our goal to test
[18:19] <Awsoonn> so if you turned it off and got error 18 I'm at a loss.
[18:22] <thenullman1> I turned off lba mode control
[18:23] <thenullman1> now I have to reinstall grub, boot into xub. and shutdown to see if it still causes same error
[18:23] <Awsoonn> sweet, I hope it works for you!
[18:23] <thenullman1> thx
[18:23] <Awsoonn> :D
[18:23] <thenullman1> I just thought it was weird I got the error after making the change in the bios
[18:23] <Awsoonn> it is.
[18:24] <Awsoonn> :s
[18:24] <thenullman1> b/c from my testing, the error doesn't happen when I restart, only when totally shutdown
[18:24] <thenullman1> so I restarted and went into bios...
[18:24] <Awsoonn> which is odd in itself
[18:24] <thenullman1> true
[18:38] <thenullman1> FAIL
[18:38] <thenullman1> grrrr
[18:38] <Awsoonn> did it do anythign new?
[18:38] <thenullman1> nope
[18:39] <Awsoonn> well, I'd put it back as you found it and give #ubuntu a shout
[18:39] <thenullman1> a buddy of mine said to put a 10 second delay in the bios
[18:39] <thenullman1> yeah, I tried #ubuntu
[18:39] <thenullman1> no one cares in there
[18:39] <thenullman1> it's a crazy place
[18:39] <Awsoonn> yea
[18:39] <Awsoonn> to say the least
[18:39] <thenullman1> maybe I'll just try another time in there
[18:39] <thenullman1> or use the helpdesk-type thing ubuntu has now
[18:40]  * Awsoonn perks up
[18:40] <thenullman1> launchpad
[18:40] <Awsoonn> oh, taht
[18:40] <Awsoonn> XD I thought there was something new on the block
[18:40] <Awsoonn> you can try to post a question in launchpad for sure, while your at is post on the forums
[18:41] <Awsoonn> there's smart ppl out there, just have to find them.
[18:41] <Awsoonn> sorry, I'm not one of them
[18:41] <knome> Awsoonn, did you set up bitlbee already?
[18:41] <Awsoonn> knome: I apt-get installed it... and got busy
[18:41] <Awsoonn> :p
[18:41] <knome> bah
[18:41] <Awsoonn> so nope, it's on the stack
[18:42] <thenullman1> thx for trying
[18:42] <Awsoonn> hey, if you can tell me a program for winblows that can give me a report of installed software and hardware, I'll be closer to poping the only thing left on the stack
[18:42] <thenullman1> I wish vidd was here
[18:42] <thenullman1> he had some good ideas
[18:42] <thenullman1> I got one
[18:43] <thenullman1> but it's free to try I think
[18:43] <knome> Awsoonn, windows installed software?
[18:43] <thenullman1> total network scan
[18:43] <thenullman1> gives a ton of info
[18:43] <Awsoonn> *googles*
[18:43] <thenullman1> there's another uninstaller that will sometimes show what add/remove doesn't, but id remember what it's called again
[18:43] <knome> thenullman1, format?
[18:44] <thenullman1> u want me to?
[18:44] <thenullman1> I formatted the linux stuff
[18:44] <knome> thenullman1, lol no:D
[18:44] <knome> thenullman1, i meant that format is an alternative for add/remove ;)
[18:44] <thenullman1> oh
[18:44] <thenullman1> doesn't ring a bell
[18:44] <thenullman1> this was a couple of years ago I used
[18:44] <knome> ding ding
[18:44] <knome> ;)
[18:44] <thenullman1> maybe it is same
[18:44]  * knome rings the bells
[18:45] <Awsoonn> lol
[18:45] <Awsoonn> stop pickin' on thenullman, he doesn't even exist
[18:45] <Awsoonn> how would you like to not exist
[18:45] <knome> oh, true
[18:46] <thenullman1> heh
[18:47] <thenullman1> so I'm a n00b to irc also, what's the *** that people put b/f actions
[18:48] <knome> thenullman1, /me does things
[18:48]  * thenullman1 does things
[18:48] <thenullman1> ah
[18:48] <knome> bh
[18:50] <Awsoonn> thenullman1: http://www.softinventive.com/products/total-network-inventory/ is this the proram you were talkign about?
[18:50] <thenullman1> yeah
[18:50] <thenullman1> free to try
[18:51] <thenullman1> there's a free one too I think, I don't remember the name... dern
[18:51] <thenullman1> try http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4387.html
[18:52] <thenullman1> SIW might have programs
[20:08] <DaveDixonII> xUbuntu randomly logs me off at random points while in use. can anyone help me/
[20:08] <DaveDixonII> ?*
[20:12] <Odd-rationale> DaveDixonII: could be an xorg issue... what driver? have you checked your /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old ?
[20:13]  * DaveDixonII hopes he doesn't freese while checking.
[20:14] <DaveDixonII> What am i looking for exactly in this file?
[20:15] <Odd-rationale> DaveDixonII: errors and such... look near the end...
[20:15] <DaveDixonII> All i got is this:
[20:15] <DaveDixonII> (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 0
[20:15] <DaveDixonII> (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 1
[20:15] <DaveDixonII> (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 2
[20:16] <DaveDixonII> Fatal server error: Caught signal 4. Server aborting
[20:16] <DaveDixonII> The second paste is right above the first.
[20:17] <Odd-rationale> looks like xorg crashed...
[20:21] <DaveDixonII> Sorry.
[20:22] <DaveDixonII> Here are the problems i have: xubuntu randomly freezes and i have to shut down. Windows randomly close, and i randomly get logged out.
[20:26] <DaveDixonII> and now, the panels just disappeared (even know i know how to bring that back up) Anyone out there?
[20:27] <Odd-rationale> DaveDixonII: i really don't know what the issue could be... tried booting into recoverymode and select fix xorg ?
[20:28] <DaveDixonII> Ok, i will try that. Brb.
[21:20] <Awsoonn> what woudl #xub recomend for a PIII 800mhz 128MB ram 20GB HDD?
[21:20] <Odd-rationale> Awsoonn: puppylinux
[21:24] <DaveDixonII> Well, i still need to fix the freezing issue.
[21:32] <Awsoonn> Odd-rationale: anything else? I didn't care for puppy to much
[21:33] <Awsoonn> although, they have released a new version since I last tried....
[21:33] <Odd-rationale> Awsoonn: ubuntu cli ?
[21:33] <Awsoonn> needs Gooy
[21:34] <favro> doesn't the xubuntu alternate cd work with 128mb?
[21:37] <Awsoonn> so, there's no reall good solution here is what I'm feeling huh?
[21:37] <Awsoonn> 256 is THE minimum.
[21:38] <favro> ahh - I used gutsy with a pent3 and 128mb...
[21:38] <Awsoonn> and how did that work for you?
[21:39] <Odd-rationale> Awsoonn: puppy is a good solution... you just don;t like it... :P
[21:39] <favro> it was fine - did all that was expected
[21:39] <Awsoonn> 1
[23:17] <frank_> Hello.
[23:18] <frank_> I was curious about installing xubuntu on a stylistic 3400 tablet, anyone available ?
[23:23] <frank_> What I am wondering, is it possible to put the hard drive in my computer here and copy the files to the hard drive and run the installation?
[23:26] <cody-somerville> hmm?!