ScottK-laptopRiddell: I'd appreciate it if you could accept kicker-taskbar-compiz in hardy-backports ...00:17
RiddellScottK-laptop: accepted00:46
RiddellI think I've tracked down the no maximise button issue00:46
Riddellapachelogger: "Add kickoffrc as replacement for the favourites patch in workspace" have you tested that?00:47
Riddellit didn't work when I tried it00:47
Riddell(nor when suse tried it I presume by the existance of a kickoffrc)00:48
apacheloggerRiddell: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/snapshot147.png00:49
ScottK-laptopRiddell: Thanks.00:50
apacheloggerRiddell: worth testing, I had a lot of package revisions that day, that's also the reason I didn't drop the workspace patch yet.00:50
Riddellextra adept00:52
seeleapachelogger: that's a nice logo for adept.. did the oxygen people make it or did it already exist?01:00
apacheloggerseele: oxygen, but I don't like it for the installer01:01
apacheloggerespecially not considering the updater uses the same icon01:01
seeleoh, that could be confusing01:01
Riddellthe updater is adept01:02
seelehum.. should make some tea01:02
Riddellooh, are you calling your evening meal "tea" now?01:03
seeleRiddell: no.. i'm calling steeping some leaves in hot water tea :)01:04
seelealthough i'm getting hungry already even though dinner was only 2 hours ago.  might have to make a snack to go with it01:05
seeleRiddell: besides.. i thought your "tea" was an early dinner, not late?01:05
Riddellaround 6-ish, plus or minus an hour01:07
Riddellbut as usual, us computer types tend to be later :)01:07
seeleit's tought eating a meal and staying up for an additional 6 hours without anything for the rest of the evening01:07
seeleespecially when i tend to eat every few hours during the day01:08
ScottK-laptopAre we close to having our beta packages in place then?03:23
* ScottK-laptop contemplates a dist-upgrade of the laptop.03:24
rgreeningScottK-laptop: I'm running latest intrepid now. no issues.03:44
ScottK-laptopI'd like to do my upgrade when we're pretty close to what we plan to use for beta so I can catch any upgrade issues.03:45
ScottK-laptopDo you know if anything else is planned?03:45
rgreeningnot that I've heard. I built an update to qt 4.4.3, but I think Riddell wants to wait until after beta to up it03:47
nixternalwasabi peeps!!!03:48
* ScottK says what the heck and upgrades.03:49
* nixternal says what the heck and doesn't upgrade :)03:49
* rgreening smiles03:49
nixternalis Intrepid lookin' good yet?03:49
nixternalI have been using wmii lately and haven't been checking in on things...that is going to change in the next couple of months though...I am coming back, but to do more coding than anything else03:50
nixternalneed to find new documentors!!!03:50
* ScottK-laptop really hopes that was not a typical upgrade experience.06:48
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Riddellall new alternate CDs up12:14
Tonio_Riddell: I'm currently working on policykit-kde, I can get a dialog when required, but it seems to ask for the root password by default12:56
Tonio_Riddell: I'm pretty sure there is a way to make it to work, maybe patch somehow.... I'm investigating12:56
Tonio_Riddell: appart from that I'm really surprized with packagekit, it works really nicelly12:57
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Riddelldesktop CDs up13:18
RiddellTonio_: formidable13:18
apacheloggervorian: bug 26718213:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 267182 in digikam-kde4 "Update to beta 3" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26718213:22
Tonio_Riddell: the problem seems to be that policykit reports bad permissions, problably due to bad request...13:31
Tonio_Riddell: POLKIT_RESULT_ONLY_VIA_ADMIN_AUTH_KEEP_ALWAYS is reported when my standard user has the permission.... certainly a problem with the UID or something13:31
Tonio_Riddell: shouldn't be that hard to fix :) still in the work13:31
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vorianapachelogger: do we have time for fixor it?13:35
apacheloggervorian: dunno, do you?13:35
apacheloggermaybe devfil does?13:35
voriani guess13:35
voriani just woke up13:35
apacheloggerbug 26718213:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 267182 in digikam-kde4 "Update to beta 3" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26718213:36
devfilapachelogger: ok, np13:37
jtechidnagood morning all13:37
apacheloggerhoy jtechidna13:38
vorian09/30/08|08:42 < vorian> i guess13:38
jtechidnaRiddell: didja receive my adept patch?13:39
* apachelogger pokes Riddell with bug 27599713:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 275997 in kdebase "Intrepid: Kubuntu maximise button missing from Konqueror" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27599713:39
apacheloggerRiddell: please remove the kwinrulesrc from kds13:40
apacheloggerjtechidna: what is bug 217654 about?13:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 217654 in kdesdk "nautilus won't launch KDE apps" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21765413:42
* apachelogger doesn't really get the problem13:42
jtechidnaapachelogger: empty Path= in the .desktops13:43
apacheloggeris that actually invalid?13:43
apacheloggeroh 1.1 published13:44
jtechidnaI probably should have checked that before opening a shitton of bugs13:44
apacheloggerjtechidna: yus13:44
jtechidnaso, freedesktop.org?13:45
apacheloggerjtechidna: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-1.1.html13:48
apacheloggerI think we should poke them13:48
apachelogger-(~/src/deb/mysql:$)-> desktop-file-validate /usr/share/applications/kde4/kate.desktop13:49
apachelogger/usr/share/applications/kde4/kate.desktop: warning: key "InitialPreference" in group "Desktop Entry" is a reserved key for KDE13:49
apachelogger/usr/share/applications/kde4/kate.desktop: warning: value "" for key "Path" in group "Desktop Entry" does not look like an absolute path13:49
apacheloggerwarning, not error13:49
apacheloggerPath is type string13:49
apacheloggerand the spec says13:49
apachelogger"-(~/src/deb/mysql:$)-> desktop-file-validate /usr/share/applications/kde4/kate.desktop13:49
apachelogger/usr/share/applications/kde4/kate.desktop: warning: key "InitialPreference" in group "Desktop Entry" is a reserved key for KDE13:49
apachelogger/usr/share/applications/kde4/kate.desktop: warning: value "" for key "Path" in group "Desktop Entry" does not look like an absolute path13:49
apacheloggeractually it says "Values of type string may contain all ASCII characters except for control characters." :P13:49
jtechidnapoke whom?13:49
apacheloggernow that could be "values of type string must contain any ASCCI chracters except for control chracters"13:50
apacheloggerbut it is not13:50
apacheloggerlike "Values of type numeric must be a valid floating point number as recognized by the %f specifier for scanf in the C locale."13:50
apacheloggerjtechidna: I'd suggest poking pbrown@kde.org13:51
apacheloggerbut I interpret the spec that you don't necessarily need to have any value for string keys13:52
apacheloggerjtechidna: you could file a bug report at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/13:53
apacheloggerstating the problem and that the spec doesn't clearly state what happens if a key with value string is empty13:53
Tonio_Riddell: hum, policykit-kde seems to work well in fact13:55
Tonio_Riddell: unless I'm wrong, I don't understand how the gnome one works13:56
Tonio_Riddell: packagekit by default only let the admin user install a package13:56
Tonio_which means root I guess13:56
Tonio_Riddell: any idea how packagekit detects what is admin and what is not ?13:56
Tonio_Riddell: this i the default authorization : POLKIT_RESULT_ONLY_VIA_ADMIN_AUTH_KEEP_ALWAYS:13:56
Tonio_Riddell: according to packagekit-kde, that means root auth is required, which'll fail since root has no password13:57
Tonio_Riddell: policykit gnome then asks for the user's password, which sounds wrong, but works...13:57
Tonio_Riddell: technically policykit-kde works, just I think we have to make it clear what is 'admin' according to policykit13:58
Tonio_Riddell: who may know a bit of policykit on the gnome side ?13:59
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RiddellTonio_: pitti's name comes to mind for policykit14:22
ScottK-laptopIn KDE3 if you mouse over an item for an open app in Task Manager you get a tooltip with what the app is.  In Intrepid KDE4 I don't get the tooltip.  Bug? Feature? Some setting I need to change?14:32
rgreeningRiddell: updating qt 3.3.9 shortly. Assuming you still need it done14:34
rgreeningRiddell: can't find a 3.3.9 release... was there one for the copyright update? not sure there was14:47
rgreeninganyone having an issue with update-notifier-kde not running on startup or failing shortly after startup?14:48
jtechidnaScottK-laptop: Was present in 4.0, but broke and never got fixed because of something Qt-ish in the 4.1 cycle15:01
jtechidnaThe feature is already back in 4.2 trunk15:01
ScottK-laptopjtechidna: Is there any way we can backport a patch to 4.1 to fix it?  It a regression from KDE3 at this point and a rather huge one for my typical workflow.15:02
jtechidnaScottK-laptop: Dunno, since I think it was a Qt issue it might rely on Qt-copy. I'm not sure though.15:04
ScottK-laptopRiddell: Do you know about this?  Can we fix it for Intrepid?  ^^^15:04
jtechidnaWe could probably ask #plasma or the plasma-devel ML how extensive the changes would be for a backport15:06
ScottK-laptopWould you?  I think it'll be a big deal for a lot of people.15:06
rgreeningHow hard would it be to port synaptic to Qt? I rather like synaptic as compared to adept 315:07
apacheloggerthere once was kynaptic15:08
apacheloggerit was crap15:08
jtechidnaScottK-laptop: I'll get on it in a bit, I haz economics hw to finish up first15:08
apacheloggerand I don't like syntpic either15:08
apacheloggerthen again I don't like adept very much15:08
* apachelogger finds all package manager guis rather awful15:08
ScottK-laptopjtechidna: Thanks.15:08
jtechidnaIf we're lucky suse might even have something we can steal, \o/15:09
* apachelogger finds suse patches overly dangerous15:10
apacheloggerRiddell: please accept kgrubeditor15:11
rgreeninganyone package wine yet?15:11
ScottK-laptopIf by WINE, you actually mean WINE then yes.  If you mean a winecfg replacement, I don't think so.  yuriy had some thoughts on that a while ago.15:12
rgreeningwas talking about wine 1.1.515:12
jtechidnalast stable was 1.0, which is what they're sticking with for Intrepid iirc15:13
ScottK-laptopTalk to yokozar on #ubuntu-motu about it.15:13
jtechidnathere is a 3rd party ubuntu repo that gets the 1.1.x updates15:14
gnomefreakis kde3 avail. in intrepid?15:14
ScottK-laptopWhich yokozar is the also the guy that runs it.15:14
rgreeninggnomefreak: no15:14
ScottK-laptopgnomefreak: Not as a complete desktop.  Some pieces are.15:14
gnomefreakthanks thats what i thought15:14
* jtechidna disappears for 15 min15:14
* apachelogger pokes claydoh15:18
nixternalmornin' krazy people15:18
apachelogger"I agree that this is a very important bug to fix. Kubuntu has an image problem as it is and something like this making it through would only make things worse."15:19
claydohapachelogger: what did I do this time ;)]15:19
apacheloggerclaydoh: bug 27521815:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 275218 in kdepim "(Kubuntu Intrepid) KMail crashes when I create a new message and try to access the body of the message" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27521815:19
apacheloggerdo you use imap?15:19
apacheloggerdo you get a backtrace?15:19
apacheloggerif not, run kdebugdialog15:19
apacheloggerturn all debug on15:19
apacheloggerstart kmail from console and trigger the issue, get the output pasted15:19
RiddellScottK-laptop: I don't know anything about task manager tooltips I'm afraid15:34
ScottK-laptopOK.  Thanks.  Maybe jtechidna will turn something up.15:35
Riddellrgreening: hmm, you're right, there is no 3.3.9, I was told there would be15:36
rgreeningkool. thought I was losing it15:36
Riddellrgreening: well, beta candidate CDs need testing if that leaves you at a lose end :)15:39
rgreeningI may just do that. I was thinking on how best to test.15:39
rgreeningdidn't want to lose all my settings in Intrepid.. may have to backup (or is there a vm way to do it?)15:40
claydohapachelogger: I just get a freezeup http://paste.ubuntu.com/52482/15:40
apacheloggergetdents64(37, /* 10 entries */, 4096)  = 31215:40
apacheloggerclose(37)                               = 015:40
apacheloggeraccess("/usr/share/myspell/dicts/en-GB.aff", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)15:40
apacheloggernice and cosy15:40
apacheloggeruh yeah, it's broken15:41
Riddellrgreening: you can try virtualbox, dunno how well that works15:41
* apachelogger thinks a missing dict shouldn't take kmail down15:41
apacheloggerRiddell, rgreening: works pretty well15:42
Riddellrgreening: also you should be able to install to an existing partition, it'll wipe /usr etc but should keep /home15:42
davmor2Riddell: new version supports 64bit and works quite well according to heno :)15:42
rgreeningtrue.. could try that15:42
claydohapachelogger: so can I install a different one ?15:42
claydohwho needs en-gb, us yanks have our own eh?15:43
apacheloggerthe thing is kmail shouldn't be using en-gb15:43
apacheloggerkmail shouldn't even have it's own spell check setting15:43
Riddellrgreening: just make sure not to tick the format box if installing over an existing partition15:44
rgreeningRiddell: kk15:45
apacheloggerclaydoh, rgreening: please paste ls -lah /usr/share/myspell/dicts/15:45
rgreeningapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/52485/15:46
apacheloggerclaydoh: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  28K 2008-09-16 10:36 en_GB.aff15:47
apacheloggershouldn't be crashing for you15:47
* apachelogger doesn't have this file at all15:47
apacheloggerclaydoh: run `strace kmail --nofork` and trigger the crash15:47
apacheloggerpaste the last couple of lines15:47
ScottK-laptopRiddell: I'm looking at the Intrepid uninstallables and it appears to me that kdeedu is to demote libkiten4 and libkiten-dev to Universe.15:47
apacheloggerclaydoh: ah forget about that15:48
apacheloggerrgreening: can you reproduce the hang?15:48
apacheloggerbug 27521815:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 275218 in kdepim "(Kubuntu Intrepid) KMail crashes when I create a new message and try to access the body of the message" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27521815:48
apacheloggertechnically it should be working for rgreening15:48
rgreeninglm check15:48
rgreeningnope. Kmail is solid for me15:49
RiddellScottK-laptop: I don't follow15:49
apacheloggerclaydoh: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall myspell-en-us myspell-en-gb15:51
ScottK-laptopRiddell: Maybe it was done already, but it's showing up on http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/intrepid_probs.html as uninstallable.  When I tested it installs with Universe enabled and not if Main.  It's only rdepend is in Universe.15:51
claydohapachelogger: it removes hunspell-en-us15:53
apacheloggerclaydoh: replace myspell-en-us with hunspell-en-us15:53
claydohbut it works installing myspell-en-us and -en-gb :)15:54
claydohI can email15:54
RiddellScottK-laptop: mm, right15:54
apacheloggerthis is no kmail bug15:54
apacheloggeror actually it is but it is not at the same time15:54
claydohis hunspell the default one to use?15:55
rgreeningI have all 3 packages installed on my system. Not sure which apps brought them in. Do we need a dep update for Kmail and one of the spell packages15:55
apacheloggerclaydoh: no idea, mysql-en-gb is default and huspell-en-us is as well15:56
apacheloggertoo mysterious15:56
apacheloggerrgreening: no15:56
apacheloggerthe problem is that for some reason the package don't get installed properly15:56
apacheloggermaybe only upon upgrad even15:56
apacheloggerthat's the reason your ls is different from claydoh's15:57
rgreeningclaydoh, do you have language-support-writing-en installed?15:57
rgreeningso, I need to really test on a clean install to dup15:57
claydohapachelogger: no15:58
rgreeningclaydoh: was that in response to my Q? regarding language support?15:59
RiddellScottK-laptop: ok, demoted and added to excludes to stop it wanting to be rescued into main15:59
claydohapachelogger: yes, it is not installed15:59
claydohdeps on hunspell-en-us16:00
apacheloggerclaydoh, rgreening: that is not the problem16:00
apacheloggerdpkg -L will show that the symbolic link and the file it links to are both in huspell-en-us/myspell-en-gb16:01
claydohsorry rgreening16:01
claydohwrong tabbing skillz here16:01
apacheloggerfor some reason teh installation goes wrong which only leaves the link16:01
ScottK-laptopRiddell: The only other KDE one, kleopatra needs the dirmngr MIR approved, which as pitti mentioned will take some thought.16:02
apacheloggernow usually kmail would just not know about $dict if there is no file for $dict, but in this case there is a dict file (the symbolic link), kmail tries to open the dict file and goes wocka because the file it links to is not available (as seen in the claydoh's ls)16:02
ScottK-laptopRiddell: Optionally we could unseed kleopatra?16:02
Tonio_Riddell: found the issue for policykit-kde16:04
Tonio_Riddell: doesn't deal with the concept of admin users16:04
Tonio_only uses root by default16:04
Tonio_Riddell: I have some kde3 code that works with this, I'll port that to the current kde4 one16:05
Tonio_Riddell: contrib day on thursday so I expect to have something that works then16:05
rgreeningapachelogger: which package? I can look at it16:07
Tonio_Riddell: but I know you'll believe it when you see it ;)16:08
apacheloggerclaydoh: please add a comment to the upstream KDE bug, saying that the issue is that kmail chocks if a symbolic link goes to $nowhere, please also link to the bug report on launchpad ... I added 2 comments explainig the situation.16:09
claydohapachelogger: ok, im on it16:11
rgreeningapachelogger: is it one16:12
apacheloggerrgreening: one what?16:12
rgreeningdoh.. typo.16:14
rgreeningapachelogger: waht I was trying to ask was which particular part of the package fails (all links, some links, is it consistant - if you know)16:17
jjessemorning :)16:18
apacheloggerall I know is that for both myspell-en-gb and huspell-en-us only the links get installed16:18
apacheloggerahoy jjesse16:18
jjesseahoy apachelogger16:18
jjessewasn't talk like a pirate day last week?16:20
rgreeningon the oo package, there is no hunspell-en* but there is a myspell-en*16:20
rgreeningapachelogger ^16:20
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jtechidnaScottK-laptop, Riddell:16:22
jtechidna<aseigo> jtechidna: not too hard.. add the Plasma::ToolTIpManager and Plasma::ToolTip classes to libplasma16:22
apacheloggerrgreening: where does huspell-en-us come from?16:22
jtechidna<aseigo> jtechidna: then add the tooltip code to the panel16:22
jtechidna<aseigo> jtechidna: that code doesn't really touch anything else, so it would be pretty eays16:22
rgreeningseperate package it seems... 1 sec lmc16:22
claydohwhich is the correct package for kubuntu? hunspell or myspell?16:24
apacheloggerrgreening: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hunspell-en-us16:24
claydohreinstalling either one works for me16:24
claydohso I can recommend the correct on in K -f-n16:25
claydohand the kde bug report16:25
vorian!info kpovmodeler intrepid16:38
ubottukpovmodeler (source: kpovmodeler): a KDE 4 graphical editor for povray scenes. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:1.1.3-kde4.1.0-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 2853 kB, installed size 8784 kB16:38
RiddellTonio_: bon chance16:42
Riddelljtechidna: hmm?16:43
jtechidnaRiddell: looks like taskmanager tooltips are feasible16:43
* jtechidna is taking a stab at it16:43
rgreeningapachelogger: I don't think the ooo package is at fault... at least It doesn't install hunspell-en* as it's seperate.16:45
apacheloggerrgreening: it installs myspell-en-gb which was the actual crash cause for me16:46
rgreeningoh... hmm.. lmc16:46
rgreeningI have that package16:46
apacheloggerand still both mysell and hunspell weren't installed properly as documented in the log I attached16:47
Tonio_Riddell: basically the current kde4 code is based on the pardus kde3 one ported16:48
rgreeningk. I'll check in pbuilder env... see what happens16:48
Tonio_Riddell: pardus is still maintaining its kde3 codebase so I have to port the changes to kde4.... not an easy job16:48
Tonio_Riddell: but would be nice to get that done :)16:48
RiddellTonio_: mm, sounds fiddly16:49
Tonio_Riddell: fiddly ? what does this mean ?16:49
Riddell"Requiring dexterity to operate"16:49
Tonio_Riddell: most of the code is the same, a good coder could get that done in one or 2 days.... it'll be way longer for me, but I'll try to get it done16:49
Tonio_Riddell: sure it is :)16:49
Tonio_Riddell: maybe if I can find another developper to help....16:50
apacheloggerjtechidna: stop taskmanagering and continue backporting17:01
* jtechidna haz idea, he can taskmanager while backports are building :D17:02
apacheloggerjtechidna: actually17:02
ScottKjtechidna: That's be REALLY great.17:02
apacheloggerjtechidna: go redo kdegraphics17:02
apacheloggerwe still have 4.1.1 in intrepid17:02
jtechidnaapachelogger: we have new tarballs in the magic directory?17:03
jtechidnaI suppose I should just check17:03
jtechidnaforgot to make an Intrepid pbuilder17:17
jtechidnaso while that's going on17:18
jtechidnaHow do I add entirely new files to a patch with quilt?17:18
jtechidnaquilt add $file doesn't seem to add the new files to the patch17:20
rgreeningapachelogger: I just built the package and looked at the resulting deb. It's fine. In fact, the deb in the repo is correct also... so, not sure why a symlink would be missing.17:24
apacheloggernot the symlink is missing, the real file is missing17:25
apacheloggerand the part where the deb actually contains the files is also show using dpkg -L in my exhibit-collection.txt :P17:25
rgreeningapachelogger: I extracted the deb and it had the correct files (link and real file)17:33
rgreeningapachelogger: I even remove the en* files and reinstall... works... not sure why your setup and mine is diff in this regard17:38
apacheloggermaybe update-openoffice-dicts messed up17:39
rgreeningit's not in the myspell or hunspell dict debs... at least with what I tried.17:47
rgreeninghehe dict deb17:47
* rgreening needs to get a life after finding that last line funny17:48
rgreeningapachelogger: what triggers update-openoffice-dicts17:49
apacheloggerrgreening: postinst/postrm17:49
rgreeninghmm.. ran it manemually. no probl17:50
apacheloggerwell, not now, maybe it did in the last couple of days17:51
rgreeninghmm... could be... Only way to verify would be to do a live CD17:51
rgreeningand install lang packs and test17:52
apacheloggerwhere does that exec come from17:52
apacheloggerand did that package get updated recently17:52
rgreeningI suspect it's a glitch/hiccup... I'd like to see someone duplicate it in a fresh install17:52
ScottKjtechidna: I'll be offline for the next several hours, but let me know if you need a tester/uploader for the tooltip fix.17:53
rgreeningI never had the issue at all, and I havew been updated constantly (several times a day while test building). And I use Kmail exclusively for everything17:53
jtechidnaScottK: I have the patch ready right now I believe, but I'll need to wait until kdegraphics is done to see how badly I maimed plasma17:54
rgreeningjtechidna: me217:54
jtechidnargreening: would you like to test out the patch? I'll pastebin it17:55
rgreeningsure thing17:55
ScottKjtechidna: OK.  Leave me a link to a debdiff or the patch and I'll look into it later.17:55
jtechidnahave a good day17:55
a|wenScottK: thx for the upload yesterday17:55
jtechidnargreening: http://paste.ubuntu.com/52523/17:56
a|wenScottK: i'll try to see if the maillist bug in kdepim is replicaple today17:56
rgreeningHey, is there a package that can test the integrity of installed files belonging to packages (i.e. look for missing files - casuging package to be broken)? If not, we should write something. It would help probably resolve some extraneous bugs that crop us when users much their system up17:58
apacheloggerrgreening: it doesn't really matter if it reappears in a new installation it certainly does for updates17:58
a|wenif anyone has anything that needs to be tested on gutsy or in relation to a gutsy -> hardy upgrade please send it ... i'll be doing such an upgrade in an hour or two17:58
rgreeningapachelogger: hmmm... Ok, let me test. I built an updated package. I can test the theory 4 you17:59
ScottKa|wen: You're welcome.  Thanks for looking after the 3.5.10 stuff.18:16
a|wenno problem18:16
ScottKrgreening: If you're up for something QT'ish, could you have a look at bug 26138018:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 261380 in qt4-x11 "Packages have invalid .gnu_debuglink" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26138018:21
apacheloggerBug #26988018:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 269880 in update-notifier-kde "update-notifier-kde crashes apporttray" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26988018:23
claydohrgreening: I think i will do a fresh install here of the daily I used, I think it was from friday18:23
claydohrgreening: to see if i get the kmail bug18:23
apacheloggerrgreening: login and check the .xsession-erros18:23
claydohI did over the weekend, it worked for a day then it stopped again18:23
apacheloggerrgreening: it should probably tell what is going on18:24
claydohor try a newer one and see if it doesn't18:24
ScottKrgreening: Thanks.  pitti was interested in seeing it dealt with.18:29
rgreeningScottK: kk18:31
rgreeningbrb... reboot18:34
RiddellScottK: do we want kleopatra?18:37
rgreeningapachelogger: works fine on logout/login... but not on boot. something is causeing it to crash (python2.5 prob possibly)18:41
rgreeningapachelogger: I think this may be related:  Bug #21238818:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 212388 in guidance-power-manager "python2.5 crashed with DBusException in call_blocking()" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21238818:44
rgreeningScottK: Regarding bug 261380, we mirror debians package. How different do we want to be in this respect for this package? Should we file upstream and get them to change? Not sure, there may be a reason for their reasoning...19:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 261380 in qt4-x11 "Packages have invalid .gnu_debuglink" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26138019:05
rgreeningRiddell: Is that patch in kdebase-workspace for kwin/compisite from the kwin11.1 suse guys? Cause I'm getting the repaint issue all over again today.19:09
smarteruh oh19:19
smarterRiddell: http://pastebin.com/m5badf8a619:19
* smarter thinks pyqt needs a rebuild19:20
smarterRiddell: firefox gives the same error when started, except if GTK2_RC_FILES is not set, so gtk-qt-engine probably needs a rebuild too19:21
davmor2Riddell: you around still?19:32
rgreeningapachelogger: Confirmed... update-notifier-kde fails to run if there's a waiting crash file entry. See bug: 26988019:33
rgreeningbug 26988019:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 269880 in update-notifier-kde "update-notifier-kde crashes apporttray" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26988019:33
jtechidnargreening: I messed something up in the old patch19:35
jtechidnawithout my fix cmake will fail after like a minute19:36
rgreeningis there a way to force an application crash (i.e. so apport catches it)? Need to test something..19:45
jtechidnargreening: close a folderview plasmoid19:51
rgreeninglol.. lmt19:52
davmor2I noticed an interest flaw.  The lightbulbs you get for announcements multiply if you ignore them :)19:52
jtechidnargreening: try 3, heh19:54
smarterrgreening: kill -SIGSEGV pidoftheapp19:57
rgreeningsmarter: good one. ty. I did get a crash in using twitter plasmoid, that achieved my end result. bug 269880 confirmed19:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 269880 in update-notifier-kde "update-notifier-kde crashes apporttray" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26988019:58
=== jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna
apacheloggerScottK: why do we need kleopatra again?20:01

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