| nixternal | hola people | 00:38 |
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| JontheEchidna | y hello thar | 00:39 |
| seele | Riddell: hmm.. can you still call Tea "tea" if you don't serve tea? | 01:18 |
| ScottK | Riddell: kleopatra is not essential to get GPG and S/MIME working for Kontact (which is why we didn't promote it for Gutsy). It does add certificate management U/I that is hugely helpful for S/MIME and so I always use it. Since we try to be user friendly, I think we want it, but it's not essential. | 03:21 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: ^^^ | 03:23 |
| Arby | morning all | 08:37 |
| davmor2 | Morning :) | 08:38 |
| Tonio_ | hi there | 09:22 |
| Tonio_ | hum.... am I the only one who gets an ldap protocol issue when starting konversation ? that may be due to the fact I'm using ldap in kontact and konversation tries to get them somehow.... | 09:30 |
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| yuriy | fun konsole bug -- different windows seem to want to stay the same size | 10:03 |
| Riddell | seele: I never have tea with my tea | 10:12 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: on wubi I'm still getting the lightbulb telling me that "incomplete Language Support" but when you click on it it opens up a window with english greyed out and an install button but it doesn't install anything :-/ | 10:25 |
| Riddell | davmor2: only one? I get three | 10:28 |
| davmor2 | I get one but it never goes away | 10:29 |
| Riddell | yep, needs work post beta | 10:29 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: I'll note a bug on it shortly | 10:29 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: should jockey autostart on Kubuntu like it does on Ubuntu and xubutnu? | 10:31 |
| Riddell | davmor2: yes | 10:31 |
| Riddell | it does too, no idea if it shows up though, I don't have any non-free hardware | 10:32 |
| davmor2 | well it hasn't yet system has been on for a while. I'll confirm with a really install rather than a wubi one after | 10:33 |
| eagles0513875 | is there someone i can talk to bout getting unbanned from motu channel so that i may start helping to pkg things | 10:50 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: are you able to do a wubi test on the latest cd's? | 10:53 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: I need to confirm a shutdown issue | 10:55 |
| Riddell | davmor2: not until this afternoon (when girlfriend doesn't need her computer) | 11:11 |
| davmor2 | :) | 11:12 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: well when you get chance just see if you have this issue https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/276693 | 11:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 276693 in wubi "Intrepid: Kubuntu Fails to shutdown cleanly" [Undecided,New] | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: kleopatra is only the GUI part of the Ägypten stack, and from the selftest it runs at startup I would say half the stack is unusable because of gpgme being compiled without gpgconf | 12:45 |
| apachelogger | sebas: yo, what's the ETA for .2? | 12:50 |
| rgreening | morning all | 12:50 |
| sebas | apachelogger: I'm on the release announcement now ... maybe 2 hours or so? | 12:50 |
| apachelogger | sebas: sounds terrific :) | 12:51 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: the person who banned you would probably make sense | 12:59 |
| apachelogger | otherwise the ubuntu irc operators | 12:59 |
| stdin | apachelogger: currently in progress | 13:02 |
| apachelogger | <3 progress :) | 13:03 |
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| sebas | apachelogger: correction, release tomorrow, some last minute fix went in | 13:27 |
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| seele | huh, canonical marketing is handling UX? does that mean mpt is going to change departments or is this new UX initiative only concerned with artwork? | 14:01 |
| Hobbsee | seele: UX? | 14:06 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: This is about as far as I can get with tooltips: http://paste.ubuntu.com/52820/ | 14:08 |
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| JontheEchidna | Fails during the linking of libplasma | 14:08 |
| JontheEchidna | so I'm probably doing something stupid that I'm not realizing | 14:08 |
| seele | Hobbsee: user experience.. something sabdfl has been throwing around in blog entries | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | sebas: oh kay | 14:08 |
| Hobbsee | seele: oh. right. | 14:09 |
| eagles0513875 | Hobbsee: can i ask you something in pm | 14:09 |
| Hobbsee | eagles0513875: no. | 14:10 |
| eagles0513875 | k | 14:10 |
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| apachelogger | ScottK, Riddell: bug 276588 needs some sponsoring | 15:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 276588 in kde4libs "package kdelibs5-dev None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdelibs5-dev.list] failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libkjsembed.so', which is also in package libkjsembed-dev" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/276588 | 15:07 |
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| \sh | Riddell: in what package I can find now the libQtGui.so.4 ? | 15:42 |
| \sh | ah libqt4gui | 15:43 |
| apachelogger | lol | 15:43 |
| apachelogger | \sh: are you going to backport quassel .2 or should we try to get an exception? | 15:44 |
| \sh | apachelogger: try to get an exception..I'm trying to fix ia32_linsd | 15:44 |
| \sh | ia32-libs | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | oh kay | 15:45 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Did you see JontheEchidna's paste on tooltips? Could you have a look at it? | 16:02 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I think 276588 ought to wait until after the beta is out. | 16:03 |
| apachelogger | k | 16:03 |
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| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: what is the linking error? | 16:05 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/52639/ | 16:06 |
| JontheEchidna | aseigo said I was missing the tooltip class from libs/plasma/private | 16:09 |
| JontheEchidna | but I have that in my patch | 16:09 |
| JontheEchidna | so I'm probably doing something wrong | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | apparently | 16:12 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: should there be a plasma/tooltip.h as well as the plasma/tooltip_p.h? | 16:13 |
| JontheEchidna | rgreening: it's plasma/private/tooltip_p.h | 16:14 |
| rgreening | hmm.. | 16:15 |
| apachelogger | private header files have _p | 16:15 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: patch looks good to me(tm) | 16:17 |
| JontheEchidna | well it doesn't work, lol | 16:17 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: so, in the log, tooltipmanager.cpp doesn't recognize the member functions, which means it has no reference (i.e. no header defining them), correct? at least that's how I read it... | 16:17 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: technically | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | but #include <private/tooltip_p.h> | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | public: | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | void updateTheme(); | 16:18 |
| rgreening | right, that's why I was thinking you need a public tooltip.h | 16:19 |
| * rgreening could be wrong though | 16:19 | |
| apachelogger | well, the slot is public, if the file itself is doesn't really matter there AFAIK | 16:20 |
| * apachelogger needs to find some food | 16:21 | |
| rgreening | does the include line in the .cpp for tooltip_p.h need to come before the tooltipmanager.h include? | 16:21 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: ^ | 16:21 |
| * JontheEchidna pulls up the patch | 16:24 | |
| JontheEchidna | in tooltipmanager.cpp | 16:25 |
| JontheEchidna | tooltipmanager.h comes before the tooltip_p.h include | 16:25 |
| * rgreening wonders if it needs the reverse | 16:27 | |
| rgreening | cause tooltipmanager refs stuff in the private include (just thinking...) | 16:27 |
| JontheEchidna | well I guess it's worth a shot | 16:29 |
| JontheEchidna | but it begs the question "how does this stuff work in trunk?" | 16:30 |
| rgreening | hmm... ok, I'm at a loss. | 16:32 |
| * rgreening builds it for myself.. testing | 16:32 | |
| JontheEchidna | linking now... | 16:32 |
| JontheEchidna | fails, same error | 16:32 |
| Riddell | davmor2: bug 276693 is from a kubuntu installed to a windows drive yes? | 16:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 276693 in wubi "Intrepid: Kubuntu Fails to shutdown cleanly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/276693 | 16:36 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: yes it's the wubi install | 16:37 |
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| Riddell | davmor2: when I install with wubi to a windows drive is it supposed to then boot up with ubiquity running? | 16:46 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: I'll see if I can figure it out... | 16:47 |
| JontheEchidna | rgreening: thx | 16:48 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: First it does the iso prep in windows itself, then it reboots and you should choose kubuntu then you get ubuiquity, then it reboots and you get KDM | 16:48 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: np... | 16:48 |
| Riddell | davmor2: why does it need ubiquity? | 16:52 |
| Riddell | davmor2: anyway, ubiquity doesn't show for me and ps on the console suggests something crashed | 16:52 |
| Riddell | kwin crashes for one | 16:52 |
| Riddell | control-alt-backspace in X and it starts kde fine, shutdown is also fine | 16:53 |
| smarter | Riddell: any news on the i18n issue? | 16:53 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: Wubi only handles creation of the virtual partition and how to boot. Wubi then runs the installer from the modified image it creates in windows. | 16:54 |
| Tm_T | smarter: I heard it's sorted in some way, though all translations need acception/review | 16:54 |
| davmor2 | so it is basically a standard install just to a virtual partition :) | 16:55 |
| smarter | Tm_T: cool | 16:55 |
| Riddell | davmor2: and does kwin and/or ubiquity crash for you? | 16:57 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: No but I get no backdrop which I should have to be honest. Install went fine it was just the shutdown or reboot I was having issues with | 16:58 |
| Riddell | smarter: it's bug 273489 | 16:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 273489 in rosetta "Remaining Intrepid template approvals" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/273489 | 16:59 |
| Riddell | smarter: doesn't look like language packs have been updated, so I guess it's still not fixed | 17:00 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: I heard it's sorted in some way, though all translations need acception/review | 17:00 |
| ScottK | I'd appreciate it if someone on Intrepid who uses kontact could do a quick test for me ... | 18:33 |
| ScottK | In a folder that has mail you want to delete, click on the trach icon as fast as you can for 5 - 10 times and see if it gets lost and you end up with no message selected? | 18:34 |
| JontheEchidna | would kmail be ok? | 18:34 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 18:35 |
| ScottK | Should be the same for that. | 18:35 |
| JontheEchidna | I clicked it real fast 17 times but I still have a message selected | 18:35 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 18:36 |
| ScottK | Must be me then. | 18:36 |
| Riddell | anyone fancy doing a beta announce wiki page? | 18:38 |
| Riddell | nixternal? | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: it's a wiki -> team work would be sensible ;-) | 19:02 |
| apachelogger | ah right, I can't edit :P | 19:04 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: what content? | 19:05 |
| apachelogger | like https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IntrepidIbex/Alpha5/Kubuntu ? | 19:05 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: what is new since alpha5? | 19:10 |
| JontheEchidna | uh | 19:10 |
| JontheEchidna | KDE 4.1.2 :P | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | yus | 19:11 |
| apachelogger | what else | 19:11 |
| JontheEchidna | wokring network manager | 19:11 |
| apachelogger | rly? | 19:11 |
| JontheEchidna | *working | 19:11 |
| JontheEchidna | ya, rly | 19:11 |
| apachelogger | ok | 19:11 |
| JontheEchidna | and bugfixes in general | 19:11 |
| * apachelogger thinks we should keep a changelog | 19:11 | |
| apachelogger | also helps with the team reports | 19:11 |
| apachelogger | Adept 3.0 Beta 2 | 19:13 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: write a script to scarf the changelogs and grab the entries > date... :) | 19:38 |
| rgreening | changelogs exist already in the packages | 19:38 |
| * rgreening ducks and hides from apachelogger, lest he hit me with the lart stick | 19:39 | |
| apachelogger | rgreening: not all package changelog entries are useful | 19:41 |
| apachelogger | + that would mean someone has to maintain the list of packages to generate the changelog from | 19:41 |
| apachelogger | ...if we were using bzr... :P | 19:41 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: also what's new in Intrepid at all, since lots of hardy users will be upgrading | 19:42 |
| jjesse | we should give nixternal a hard time for not keeping up with that | 19:43 |
| jjesse | he did the release notes/wiki pages for hardy | 19:43 |
| jjesse | if i recall correctly | 19:43 |
| * apachelogger thinks nixternal doesn't love us anymore | 19:44 | |
| Riddell | just because he got a job doesn't mean he doesn't love us | 19:44 |
| jjesse | he doesn't love us anymore, thats why he is working w/ rpms ;( | 19:45 |
| apachelogger | getting a job that doesn't involve kubuntu is pretty unloving | 19:45 |
| jjesse | and the best part is nixternal isn't here to defend himself | 19:46 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: that's why I ducked... figured for a shot across the bow :) | 19:46 |
| * apachelogger should start working for novell | 19:46 | |
| nixternal | I just love Riddell now because he supported me! | 19:46 |
| apachelogger | that would make stealing patches easier | 19:46 |
| jjesse | dang he's hback | 19:46 |
| nixternal | jjesse: I am always here | 19:46 |
| nixternal | just can't answer all of the time | 19:46 |
| apachelogger | ^_^ | 19:46 |
| jjesse | even when we don't want you to be here :P | 19:46 |
| apachelogger | lol | 19:46 |
| nixternal | between the hours of 06:00 and 17:00 CST I am here | 19:46 |
| * rgreening wishes to work for canonical F/T | 19:47 | |
| nixternal | if you want to write SNMP MIB specs, mib readers, and a mib publisher I will be down for the help | 19:47 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: don't ever start contributing to the kernel then :P | 19:48 |
| jjesse | grin :) | 19:48 |
| rgreening | hahahah | 19:48 |
| rgreening | I would, just to add to the point 01 % | 19:49 |
| apachelogger | :D | 19:49 |
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| ScottK | Riddell: It looks to me like kmobiletools got added to kubuntu-desktop when it shouldn't have due to temprorarliy being part of kdepim. | 21:12 |
| ScottK | Riddell: OK if I remove it? | 21:12 |
| Riddell | ScottK: go ahead | 21:34 |
| ScottK | Riddell: OK. Thanks. | 21:34 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Done. | 22:28 |
| Riddell | New Kubuntu desktop CDs for testing! | 22:29 |
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