[00:38] hola people [00:39] y hello thar [01:18] Riddell: hmm.. can you still call Tea "tea" if you don't serve tea? [03:21] Riddell: kleopatra is not essential to get GPG and S/MIME working for Kontact (which is why we didn't promote it for Gutsy). It does add certificate management U/I that is hugely helpful for S/MIME and so I always use it. Since we try to be user friendly, I think we want it, but it's not essential. [03:23] apachelogger: ^^^ [08:37] morning all [08:38] Morning :) [09:22] hi there [09:30] hum.... am I the only one who gets an ldap protocol issue when starting konversation ? that may be due to the fact I'm using ldap in kontact and konversation tries to get them somehow.... === akonadi is now known as nihui [10:03] fun konsole bug -- different windows seem to want to stay the same size [10:12] seele: I never have tea with my tea [10:25] Riddell: on wubi I'm still getting the lightbulb telling me that "incomplete Language Support" but when you click on it it opens up a window with english greyed out and an install button but it doesn't install anything :-/ [10:28] davmor2: only one? I get three [10:29] I get one but it never goes away [10:29] yep, needs work post beta [10:29] Riddell: I'll note a bug on it shortly [10:31] Riddell: should jockey autostart on Kubuntu like it does on Ubuntu and xubutnu? [10:31] davmor2: yes [10:32] it does too, no idea if it shows up though, I don't have any non-free hardware [10:33] well it hasn't yet system has been on for a while. I'll confirm with a really install rather than a wubi one after [10:50] is there someone i can talk to bout getting unbanned from motu channel so that i may start helping to pkg things [10:53] Riddell: are you able to do a wubi test on the latest cd's? [10:55] Riddell: I need to confirm a shutdown issue [11:11] davmor2: not until this afternoon (when girlfriend doesn't need her computer) [11:12] :) [11:15] Riddell: well when you get chance just see if you have this issue https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/276693 [11:15] Launchpad bug 276693 in wubi "Intrepid: Kubuntu Fails to shutdown cleanly" [Undecided,New] [12:45] ScottK: kleopatra is only the GUI part of the Ägypten stack, and from the selftest it runs at startup I would say half the stack is unusable because of gpgme being compiled without gpgconf [12:50] sebas: yo, what's the ETA for .2? [12:50] morning all [12:50] apachelogger: I'm on the release announcement now ... maybe 2 hours or so? [12:51] sebas: sounds terrific :) [12:59] eagles0513875: the person who banned you would probably make sense [12:59] otherwise the ubuntu irc operators [13:02] apachelogger: currently in progress [13:03] <3 progress :) === echidnaman is now known as JontheEchinda === vorian is now known as stevie === JontheEchinda is now known as JontheEchidna [13:27] apachelogger: correction, release tomorrow, some last minute fix went in === davmor2 is now known as davmor2_lunch [14:01] huh, canonical marketing is handling UX? does that mean mpt is going to change departments or is this new UX initiative only concerned with artwork? [14:06] seele: UX? [14:08] ScottK: This is about as far as I can get with tooltips: http://paste.ubuntu.com/52820/ === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [14:08] Fails during the linking of libplasma [14:08] so I'm probably doing something stupid that I'm not realizing [14:08] Hobbsee: user experience.. something sabdfl has been throwing around in blog entries [14:08] sebas: oh kay [14:09] seele: oh. right. [14:09] Hobbsee: can i ask you something in pm [14:10] eagles0513875: no. [14:10] k === davmor2_lunch is now known as davmor2 === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [15:07] ScottK, Riddell: bug 276588 needs some sponsoring [15:07] Launchpad bug 276588 in kde4libs "package kdelibs5-dev None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdelibs5-dev.list] failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libkjsembed.so', which is also in package libkjsembed-dev" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/276588 === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [15:42] <\sh> Riddell: in what package I can find now the libQtGui.so.4 ? [15:43] <\sh> ah libqt4gui [15:43] lol [15:44] \sh: are you going to backport quassel .2 or should we try to get an exception? [15:44] <\sh> apachelogger: try to get an exception..I'm trying to fix ia32_linsd [15:44] <\sh> ia32-libs [15:45] oh kay [16:02] apachelogger: Did you see JontheEchidna's paste on tooltips? Could you have a look at it? [16:03] apachelogger: I think 276588 ought to wait until after the beta is out. [16:03] k === thunders1ruck is now known as gnomefreak [16:05] JontheEchidna: what is the linking error? [16:06] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/52639/ [16:09] aseigo said I was missing the tooltip class from libs/plasma/private [16:09] but I have that in my patch [16:09] so I'm probably doing something wrong [16:12] apparently [16:13] JontheEchidna: should there be a plasma/tooltip.h as well as the plasma/tooltip_p.h? [16:14] rgreening: it's plasma/private/tooltip_p.h [16:15] hmm.. [16:15] private header files have _p [16:17] JontheEchidna: patch looks good to me(tm) [16:17] well it doesn't work, lol [16:17] JontheEchidna: so, in the log, tooltipmanager.cpp doesn't recognize the member functions, which means it has no reference (i.e. no header defining them), correct? at least that's how I read it... [16:18] rgreening: technically [16:18] but #include [16:18] public: [16:18] void updateTheme(); [16:19] right, that's why I was thinking you need a public tooltip.h [16:19] * rgreening could be wrong though [16:20] well, the slot is public, if the file itself is doesn't really matter there AFAIK [16:21] * apachelogger needs to find some food [16:21] does the include line in the .cpp for tooltip_p.h need to come before the tooltipmanager.h include? [16:21] JontheEchidna: ^ [16:24] * JontheEchidna pulls up the patch [16:25] in tooltipmanager.cpp [16:25] tooltipmanager.h comes before the tooltip_p.h include [16:27] * rgreening wonders if it needs the reverse [16:27] cause tooltipmanager refs stuff in the private include (just thinking...) [16:29] well I guess it's worth a shot [16:30] but it begs the question "how does this stuff work in trunk?" [16:32] hmm... ok, I'm at a loss. [16:32] * rgreening builds it for myself.. testing [16:32] linking now... [16:32] fails, same error [16:36] davmor2: bug 276693 is from a kubuntu installed to a windows drive yes? [16:36] Launchpad bug 276693 in wubi "Intrepid: Kubuntu Fails to shutdown cleanly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/276693 [16:37] Riddell: yes it's the wubi install === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [16:46] davmor2: when I install with wubi to a windows drive is it supposed to then boot up with ubiquity running? [16:47] JontheEchidna: I'll see if I can figure it out... [16:48] rgreening: thx [16:48] Riddell: First it does the iso prep in windows itself, then it reboots and you should choose kubuntu then you get ubuiquity, then it reboots and you get KDM [16:48] JontheEchidna: np... [16:52] davmor2: why does it need ubiquity? [16:52] davmor2: anyway, ubiquity doesn't show for me and ps on the console suggests something crashed [16:52] kwin crashes for one [16:53] control-alt-backspace in X and it starts kde fine, shutdown is also fine [16:53] Riddell: any news on the i18n issue? [16:54] Riddell: Wubi only handles creation of the virtual partition and how to boot. Wubi then runs the installer from the modified image it creates in windows. [16:54] smarter: I heard it's sorted in some way, though all translations need acception/review [16:55] so it is basically a standard install just to a virtual partition :) [16:55] Tm_T: cool [16:57] davmor2: and does kwin and/or ubiquity crash for you? [16:58] Riddell: No but I get no backdrop which I should have to be honest. Install went fine it was just the shutdown or reboot I was having issues with [16:59] smarter: it's bug 273489 [16:59] Launchpad bug 273489 in rosetta "Remaining Intrepid template approvals" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/273489 [17:00] smarter: doesn't look like language packs have been updated, so I guess it's still not fixed [17:00] Riddell: I heard it's sorted in some way, though all translations need acception/review [18:33] I'd appreciate it if someone on Intrepid who uses kontact could do a quick test for me ... [18:34] In a folder that has mail you want to delete, click on the trach icon as fast as you can for 5 - 10 times and see if it gets lost and you end up with no message selected? [18:34] would kmail be ok? [18:35] Yes. [18:35] Should be the same for that. [18:35] I clicked it real fast 17 times but I still have a message selected [18:36] Thanks. [18:36] Must be me then. [18:38] anyone fancy doing a beta announce wiki page? [18:38] nixternal? [19:02] Riddell: it's a wiki -> team work would be sensible ;-) [19:04] ah right, I can't edit :P [19:05] Riddell: what content? [19:05] like https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IntrepidIbex/Alpha5/Kubuntu ? [19:10] JontheEchidna: what is new since alpha5? [19:10] uh [19:10] KDE 4.1.2 :P [19:11] yus [19:11] what else [19:11] wokring network manager [19:11] rly? [19:11] *working [19:11] ya, rly [19:11] ok [19:11] and bugfixes in general [19:11] * apachelogger thinks we should keep a changelog [19:11] also helps with the team reports [19:13] Adept 3.0 Beta 2 [19:38] apachelogger: write a script to scarf the changelogs and grab the entries > date... :) [19:38] changelogs exist already in the packages [19:39] * rgreening ducks and hides from apachelogger, lest he hit me with the lart stick [19:41] rgreening: not all package changelog entries are useful [19:41] + that would mean someone has to maintain the list of packages to generate the changelog from [19:41] ...if we were using bzr... :P [19:42] apachelogger: also what's new in Intrepid at all, since lots of hardy users will be upgrading [19:43] we should give nixternal a hard time for not keeping up with that [19:43] he did the release notes/wiki pages for hardy [19:43] if i recall correctly [19:44] * apachelogger thinks nixternal doesn't love us anymore [19:44] just because he got a job doesn't mean he doesn't love us [19:45] he doesn't love us anymore, thats why he is working w/ rpms ;( [19:45] getting a job that doesn't involve kubuntu is pretty unloving [19:46] and the best part is nixternal isn't here to defend himself [19:46] apachelogger: that's why I ducked... figured for a shot across the bow :) [19:46] * apachelogger should start working for novell [19:46] I just love Riddell now because he supported me! [19:46] that would make stealing patches easier [19:46] dang he's hback [19:46] jjesse: I am always here [19:46] just can't answer all of the time [19:46] ^_^ [19:46] even when we don't want you to be here :P [19:46] lol [19:46] between the hours of 06:00 and 17:00 CST I am here [19:47] * rgreening wishes to work for canonical F/T [19:47] if you want to write SNMP MIB specs, mib readers, and a mib publisher I will be down for the help [19:48] rgreening: don't ever start contributing to the kernel then :P [19:48] grin :) [19:48] hahahah [19:49] I would, just to add to the point 01 % [19:49] :D === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu === txwikinger1 is now known as txwikinger [21:12] Riddell: It looks to me like kmobiletools got added to kubuntu-desktop when it shouldn't have due to temprorarliy being part of kdepim. [21:12] Riddell: OK if I remove it? [21:34] ScottK: go ahead [21:34] Riddell: OK. Thanks. [22:28] Riddell: Done. [22:29] New Kubuntu desktop CDs for testing!