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physicsduckI'm working on a client machine and have a MacOS drive plugged in via USB and need a way to unlock the files. Any help?00:00
ubuntoildone00:00
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devowhat's a really good p2p program for linux?00:02
_2!p2p00:02
ubottuPeer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information00:02
ubuntoildevo: amule00:03
devothnx i'll give that a shot00:03
physicsduckany help on the unlocking mac files?00:03
ubuntoildevo: edonkey and kad network, works fine00:04
kristi__I am a bit of a noob to Ubuntu, (I have the most recent version of Kubuntu) and want to change my boot menu so that kernel generic is first, right now server is first which doesn't boot my sound drivers correctly... any help?00:05
_2!grub00:05
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto00:05
_2last link "might" have what you want.  if not come back and i'll walk you through it.00:06
_2if i can remember what a "menu.lst" looks like, that is.00:06
_2wonder if my server has one...00:07
ubuntoil!bot00:07
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots00:07
_2nope no /boot there either00:07
kristi__I read through that link earlier, and it is helpful in making windows boot first (but I have Vista ech!) but not changing between the 4 ubuntu kernels00:07
_2kristi__ same basic idea for what ever you want to be first.00:08
ubuntoilkristi__: or just remove windows ;-)00:08
_2or that ^  :)00:08
kristi__I have been into menu.lst, right now ubuntu boots first, which I want, but I have a generic kernel and a server kernel and the generic is what i want on top. right now server is00:09
kristi__In menu.lst there are no values to change for those 4 ubuntu kernels, just linux, vista, or xp00:10
devohow do i uninstall a program in the terminal???00:11
_2kristi__ in short.   there is a keyword (which i don't off hand remember, bootdefault maybe) which you set to a number starting with 0    and the entry that you want to be the default you either move to that posision or set the count to it's location.   you can "reorder" the automaticly generated section  but it's not sticky.00:11
_2devo sudo apt-get remove blah00:12
kristi__okay. I know what you are talking about, and I tried to do that, but the only things it lets me change is which OS (Vista, Linux, XP) is first, it doesn't let me change the different Kubuntu options. I'll keep googling it. Thanks though00:13
traianhelo all00:13
_2devo you technecally uninstall it,  it's already installed, so you have to remove it and then it will be uninstalled00:13
_2you cant00:13
_2kristi__ pastebin your menu.lst   and i'll show you.00:14
kristi__paste the whole page?00:15
_2not here.00:15
_2!pastebin00:15
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)00:15
traiananyone know how i can fix kontact, Kopete, kget ? it just stoped working and when runing in terminal it hangs a lot then,all it says is ERROR: Communication problem with kontact, it probably crashed.00:15
devothnx00:17
_2!pastebinit00:17
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pastebinit00:17
_2!info pastebinit00:17
ubottupastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 8 kB, installed size 84 kB00:17
LjL!info pastebinit00:17
kristi__neither do I00:17
kristi__i copied, pasted, and clicked Paste! not what?! =)00:18
_2but there should be a note on that in the !paste/!pastebin infonode   ^00:18
_2kristi__ give me the url ?00:18
kristi__http://paste.ubuntu.com/52647/00:18
kristi__oh shit that is handy!!00:18
kristi__haha i get it now!00:19
_2kristi__ ok look at line 14 of your file.   set that to 2 and it should make the generic kernel the default.00:20
_2kristi__ as i said,  it counts starting with 0 ...00:21
kristi__Right, I got that part, and was able to keep windows from booting first, but last time I tried it didn't change a thing. Re booting. Thanks for your help hope it worked.00:21
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adi_hi all00:22
_2kristi__ you can test without booting00:22
adi_have a small issue00:22
traianhi00:22
akoshi all00:22
kristi__how?00:22
akosanyone on intrepid here?00:22
akosi'm stuck with samba config00:23
_2kristi__ you open a terminal and enter# grub00:23
adi_can't mount  samsung mp3 player on kubuntu00:23
_2and some command in the grub shell,   i think it's  "loadmenu"   but not sure.00:23
adi_while I can in ubuntu and managed with gnomad200:23
traiananyone know how i can fix kontact, Kopete, kget ? it just stoped working and when runing in terminal it hangs a lot then,all it says is ERROR: Communication problem with kontact, it probably crashed ?00:23
adi_what can I do?00:23
_2kristi__ the  "help" command in the grub shell knows.00:23
kristi__nothing happened00:24
_2kristi__ meaning ?00:24
adi_amarok dont mount samsung mp3 player00:24
adi_and fdisk -l dont show anything00:24
kristi__I typed in # grub and it did nothing00:25
_2with the # ?00:25
kristi__I am sure I am doing something very wrong00:25
kristi__yeah00:25
_2or without ?00:25
kristi__oh00:25
kristi__no with #00:25
_2heh...    :)))00:25
kristi__nope still nothing00:26
_2to bash # means ignor what follows.   i used # to indicate the command started there.00:26
_2i.e.    "grub"      is the command to issue00:26
kristi__never mind apparently it takes a long time ;)00:26
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kristi__I got that now00:26
kristi__thanks for your help, I mostly just google my problems - don't use konversation much00:27
Gladyoh00:27
_2anyway,  i took the time to learn about grub,  but can't use it, so i forgot most of what i learned.00:27
_2kristi__ anytime.  that's why we gather here.00:28
kristi__okay now i got00:28
kristi__[ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported.   For00:28
kristi__         the   first   word,  TAB  lists  possible  command00:28
kristi__         completions.  Anywhere else TAB lists the possible00:28
kristi__         completions of a device/filename. ]00:28
kristi__grub>00:28
kristi__woah00:28
kristi__i just messed that up00:28
kristi__but i think you get the point00:29
_2yep.00:29
kristi__okay so what do I do now00:29
_2and in that grub shell type # help          <<< with out the #00:29
_2and see what the command is to load the menu00:29
_2err i think you may have to set the root first    # root (hd0,5)00:30
carlosroot00:30
_2then the loadmenu or what ever it is.00:30
_2carlos root what ?00:31
kristi__okay.... i have no clue http://paste.ubuntu.com/52653/00:33
_2configfile maybe ?   i really don't recall.00:33
kristi__invalid device00:33
_2for # root (hd0,5)00:34
_2?00:34
kristi__yes00:34
_2well i got that from your pastebin.  it should be correct ?00:35
_2131 root            (hd0,5)00:35
_2137 root            (hd0,5)00:35
kristi__okay I think I am just going to re boot see if it works since that only takes about 1 minute and i have spent like 5 trying to understand how this works ;) will return to tell you if it is all good!00:37
_2ok.00:37
_2heh but it's safer to learn how to test a boot loader from within a running system than try a reboot and discover you have borked your boot loader   ;/00:38
_2then again who am i to insist on doing something in a more reasonable manor.   i tend to not use things like swap, partitions, filesystems, and graphic user interfaces.00:39
* _2 </shrugs>00:40
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_2don't worry, i wont repost that.00:41
x_linkHi00:42
x_linkWhy is Kubuntu still there when I removed it?00:42
x_linksudo aptitude purge firefox-3.000:42
kristi_<_2> menu list is the same order, but generic is highlighted! Thanks!00:42
x_linkAnd then:00:42
x_linksudo aptitude purge firefox-2.000:42
x_linkThen I removed .mozilla from my home-dir "show hidden files"00:42
x_linkCan somebody tell me that?00:42
_2x_link s'plain ??00:43
_2kristi_ umm yes, like i said at first, you can "reorder" it but it's not sticky.   what we did should be sticky.00:43
x_link_2: I fixed it now.00:44
_2fixed what i wonder ???00:44
kristi_This works fine, I achieved what I wanted which is to not have to sit and watch my computer while it boots up and try to beat the clock choosing a different kernel!00:44
_2pfft.    some people are hard to stand under.00:45
_2kristi_ correct.     and welcome.00:45
kristi_Thank you, hopefully we won't talk again - since hopefully soon I will be able to understand how to fix this sort of thing on my own =p getting there!!!!!00:46
_2kristi  heh, not likely.    the more you learn the more questions you have.00:47
_2admitedly i need to revisit grub   i'm still not sure i remember how to load the menu.lst from the grub shell00:48
ryansSo there's life today?00:49
ryansOk, anyone here who has experience with Linux on laptops?00:50
_2ryans i have a tosheba satilite  with linux on /dev/sda   does that count ?00:52
ryans^^; I'll take that.00:52
_2or am i excluded from this poll ?00:52
ryansI have some odd problems00:52
ryansI have an HP pavilion ze4145 that seems to freeze when I try to play a dlash animation and when it is using it'sbattery.00:53
ign0ramusryans: does upgrading to Flash 10 solve the issue?00:54
ryansThere's a 10 now?00:54
ign0ramushttp://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_linux_091508.tar.gz00:54
ign0ramusryans: its a release candidate, but miles ahead of buggy Flash 9, imho00:55
ign0ramusryans: if you choose to install it, make sure to uninstall existing flash first00:55
ryansLike always.00:55
ign0ramusright. :)00:55
ign0ramusryans: it supports wmode as well as V4L2 (webcams on Flash now!)00:56
ryansI also was going to note I'm using a wireless card.00:56
ryansPcmia Linksys wpc54g with ndiswrapper.00:56
ign0ramusryans: well, lets start by seeing if it's a flash issue00:56
ryansright.00:56
ryansGonna be a while..The battery is charging00:56
ign0ramusryans: can't hurt, and you can always go back if you so choose00:57
ryansYeppers00:57
ign0ramusYou can always check up on Flash for Linux here: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/00:57
dr_Willisonly issue i had with flash 10 - was some sites  limited 'feature' because they dident think i had the latest flash, (which was to say. i dident have the latest flash 9)00:58
ign0ramusFlash is essential for internet browsing, and it's been pretty terrible for so long.  I'm glad we're finally getting some notice00:58
ign0ramusdr_Willis: yeah, i know CNN had that00:58
ign0ramusdr_Willis: I'm not sure if it's fixed in the latest release00:58
ryansIt was a pain to get to work on my 64bit machine.00:59
ign0ramusThe newest RC for Flash is from 09-1500:59
ryansGuessing this is a bash script?01:00
ign0ramusryans: there's always this: http://www.queleimporta.com/how-to-install-flash-10-rc-on-ubuntu-64-bits-with-2-clicks/en/01:00
ign0ramusryans: yeah, simple ./ script01:00
ign0ramusinstalls to /home/user/.mozilla01:00
Soccerooshello all01:01
cysup?01:01
ign0ramusits kind of wonky if you use Opera, though.  or at least in my experience.01:01
_2i used to use flash back in the 80's01:01
cydude wtf i cant get java on ppc dapper =((01:01
ryansI sound like I kknow what the heck I'm doing. ^^;01:01
mneptokign0ramus: that's ... ugly.01:02
Socceroosquestion: when plugging in a projector into my laptop with KDE4, does it automatically detect and configure it?01:02
ign0ramusmneptok: i know. 64bit is never pretty ;)01:02
cyi hate it.01:02
mneptokign0ramus: it goes beyond that. unsigned packages. outdated libraries ...01:02
cyjust want flash etc rawrr01:03
mneptokcy: Java was a closed project when Dapper was released. use something more current, and i think there may be PPC JRE builds.01:03
ryansI actually just figuredout what files to shove into the plkugins directory in 64bit linux.01:03
cyi messed with my mac harddrive and made it ubuntu and i really want mac back, is there any way?01:04
dr_Williscy,  Huh?01:04
dr_WillisYou can always delete/repartition the hard drives01:04
cyi meant to partition my hd but i accidentally deleted it01:04
dr_WillisThe OS_X installer should partition a hard drive  I imagine.01:05
cyhuh?01:05
MrKenniecy: you want to recover the deleted partition?01:05
mneptokcy: your Mac install is gone. you'll need to reinstall OSX if you want to use it.01:05
cyyess01:05
cywith the disk?01:05
ign0ramuscy: yes01:06
cydang01:06
cygr01:06
mneptokcy: OSX on PPC hardware is a dead end.01:06
ign0ramuscy: you deleted all Mac OS off the HDD... how else did you expect it to get back on there?01:06
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cyyeah i found this out lol01:06
_2anyone know off hand where exactly a partition table is ?01:06
dr_WillisI have OS-X on an old PPC mac. :)01:06
cyi didnt know what i was doing01:06
dr_Willisits sitting in the closet.01:06
cyyeah i have an eMac =P01:07
_2seeing that i don't have partitions i can't just look and see ????01:07
_2oh wait i do have one disk that is partitioned.   if i can find which box it's in.01:07
mirihello01:08
cyis there ANY way at all to get OSX for free?01:08
dr_Williscy,  yes.,01:08
dr_Williscy,  and its not legal. :)01:08
favrobuy a mac?01:08
MrKennieand ot here01:09
dr_Willisthats the legal way.01:09
_2but you can get all your warez at 127.0.0.101:09
dr_Willisactually One can buy OS-X in the stores01:09
trpri thought he owned a mac. if it had os-x on it originally, i would assume it came w/ install disk01:09
* ign0ramus groans01:09
dr_WillisApple at one time had their older OS's avail for download.. but not sure if they ever did that with OS-X for ppc or not.01:09
ign0ramuscy: where's your install disc?01:09
jake_where have i travelled accidentally?01:10
jake_hello?01:10
mneptokjake_: 1863. long live the Union!01:10
_2!welcome | jake_01:10
ubottujake_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!01:10
* mneptok whistles "The Battle Hymn Of The Republic"01:10
jake_this is kinda creepy but whatever.01:10
jake_mh hmmm hm mmm emmmm hmmm nanananahnah01:11
_2mneptok stop trollin'.   and whistle dixey01:11
_2and don't correct the spelling,  sotherners wont notice.01:12
* dr_Willis rises again!01:12
jake_okay01:12
mneptok_2: "Southerners"01:13
_2see you blue it.01:13
_2:)01:13
dr_Willisblu01:13
dr_Willis:)01:13
_2oh /01:13
dr_WillisPotatoe01:13
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Gladytomatoe01:14
TheCLokyeah boy01:14
trprpoor dan01:14
TheCLoki changed my name01:14
TheCLok*simplicity01:14
_2hehhe.01:14
_2like we didn't see that.... -:- jake_ is now known as TheCLok01:14
TheCLokperfection01:15
_2!support01:15
ubottuThe official Kubuntu support channel is #kubuntu. Also see http://www.kubuntu.com/support.php01:15
cyno it didnt come with disk.. and how would i reinstall a disk? if i put it in and staarted up would it just install or would i have to do some gay sudo-apt poopfuck lol01:16
favro!ohmy | cy01:17
ubottucy: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.01:17
_2potty mouth.01:17
cym sorry01:17
cyi'M*01:17
favronp :)01:17
TheCLokew censorship is for the ignorant.01:18
TheCLokim out01:18
dr_WillisSo is swareing01:18
_2even more so01:18
MrKennie:)01:18
dr_Willis'spittings nasty, but i know somthing worse!'01:19
dr_Willis:)01:19
_2slobbering ?01:19
tekteenthe problem is, censorship (of cursing) is considered stupid because you are fighting stupidity.01:19
cynice01:19
dr_Willis'fight fire with fire'01:19
cywell put01:19
* dr_Willis is fighting the inane use of 'dirty words' that add nothing to the actual conversation.01:20
dr_Willis:)01:20
favroit wasn't censorship - just a request01:20
* trpr litters his phrases with needless expletive01:20
cyyeah01:20
cyim sorry for causing trouble =( i feel awful..01:20
tekteency, it is **** yeah01:20
cyhuH?01:21
tekteennp01:21
trpri spit too01:21
_2is it weakend again already ?      i haven't seen this channel so  off topic and get by with it in ages.01:22
tekteenlol01:22
_2not complaining mind you.01:22
Gladyyes weird01:22
Gladyi think there is a plot01:22
dr_Willissounds like a bash.org quote01:22
tekteenno one is asking a question01:23
tekteenwhat else do we do01:23
tekteenI am stuck at home all day with chickenpox01:23
dr_Willisgo to #windows and ask support questions..01:23
_2tekteen in my experance "we get scolded"01:23
_2:)01:23
cyso does anyone know of any way to get java or flash on ppc dapper?01:23
dr_WillisThats what you get for  hanging out with Chickens.01:23
tekteenteen + chickenpox = BAD!!!01:23
dr_Willisteen+mumps = very bad.01:23
* tekteen goes to get vacine NOW01:24
dr_Willisteen+computer+irc =  The worse!01:24
tekteen:-|01:24
tekteen:-P01:24
_2o.O01:24
dr_Willisteen+car =  The worseerist01:24
dr_Willis:)01:24
tekteenYEAH01:24
tekteendaddy can I have the keys to the car01:25
tekteen:-D01:25
ryansHrm, and having more issues getting the script working01:25
dr_WillisWhat script?01:25
_2script ?01:25
ryansWont ID where I want flash to get installed.01:26
ryansThe flash install script01:26
ryansWhere am I sappose to put the isntall anywats?01:26
ryans*anyways01:26
dr_Willislocal user could install to /home/username/.mozilla cant they?01:27
tekteenryans, what version of kubuntu?01:27
ryansHH.01:27
tekteenHH = Hardy?01:27
_2hoary hedghog ?01:27
ryansOh yeah the .mozzilla.01:27
ryansYes tekteen.01:28
dr_WillisHibernating Hippo!01:28
dr_Willis:)01:28
ryansHardy Haron. ^^:01:28
_2there have been two HH's already01:28
tekteenHUNGRY HIPPO01:28
ryansSorry forgot there's 2 versions with HH01:28
dr_WillisThey need to start naming them after Single Cell organisms!01:28
ryansHeh01:28
dr_WillisAlpha Amoeba!01:28
dr_WillisBeta Botulism.01:28
_2single cell orgasims ?01:28
ryansHow about starship classes?01:28
_2</blinks>01:29
dr_WillisColorull Cryptsporidium01:29
dr_Willis:)01:29
_2i think i need new glasses.01:29
tekteendr_will, where do you work?01:29
tekteenAre you an M.D?01:30
dr_WillisI work for Chrysler.01:30
favro!tab | tekteen01:30
ubottutekteen: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.01:30
dr_Willisin a factory. :) reparing Muti Million Doller machines.01:30
dr_Willisthat all seem to run windows 95.01:30
tekteennice01:30
tekteenlol01:30
dr_Willisbut i repair the machines.. Not the elctrical parts01:31
tekteenfavro, thanks01:31
favronp01:31
_2i heard that M.D.'s go to school three years to learn how to do their job and nine years to learn how much to charge for it...  ;/01:31
* tekteen will never be a M.D., TOO MUCH SCHOOL01:32
_2of course i think i heard it on a flintstones cartoon01:32
dr_WillisFLintstone Cigirette comercial   http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=232501:33
dr_Willis:)01:33
cahuezhello..!01:40
NickPrestahi | cahuez01:41
cahuezhiya..01:42
NickPrestadarn01:42
NickPrestalol01:42
NickPrestahows it going?01:42
cahuezjust a question, is good to work a 64 bit ubuntu in a Intel Quad Core 6600 box..!?01:42
NickPrestacahuez, what do you mean good? It is possible, yes01:43
cahuezi mean, will it work fine in a box like that: Intel Quad Core 6600 ..01:44
cahuezor better choose a 32 bit distro..!?01:44
cahuezi'm not sure if a Intel Quad Core 6600 can work 64 bit registers and stuff..!01:44
NickPrestaQ6600 is 64-bit, yeah.01:45
gm04030276Q6600's run 64bit linux...I have 3 doing so...but I didn't see all of what you where asking so that may not answer it01:45
MrKennieI run 64bit on my Core 2 duo01:45
NickPrestaHow much RAM do you have?01:45
dr_willisMost all mondern cpus are 64bit now a dayts. :)01:46
dr_willisunless ya get the really really low end things..01:46
* _2 is very afraid that he is about to do another one of those "never do this's" ;/01:46
cahuezis a partner which i'm advicing and has 4gb ram and a nvidia video card..01:46
dr_willis4gb of ram exactly -  if using 32bit - you may lose access to 'some' of the ram.01:46
gm04030276they will want 64 bit to access the 4th GB of ram then01:46
NickPrestacahuez, he may find a benefit with a 64-bit system. I don't know exactly what sort of problems still exist with 64-bit systems (flash, etc)01:46
_2or a big mem kernel01:47
dr_willis64bit is getting better all the time. I imagine in a year. it will be the perfered.01:47
favro!64flash01:47
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about 64flash01:47
favro!flash6401:47
ubottuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava01:47
cahuezyeap, a big 4gb ram but is doesn' is a issue for linux at all..01:47
BluesKajHowdy01:48
_2BluesKaj01:50
_2ok. now i'm sure i'm about to loooose data.    this is bad.01:51
gm04030276:( why so?01:52
cahuez4gb of ram is a laaargee ram for some proprietary os's..01:53
_2gm04030276  cause i have no place large enough to backup me hda01:53
gm04030276It will be standard in a few years...just like two is now and one was before01:54
gm04030276_2: O dear01:54
dr_willisMy new laptop (a mid range model) came with 4gb ram.01:55
dr_willisdesktop came with 3gb.01:55
gm04030276_2: I just about managed to off load what should have been 1TB of data and ended up actually only like 700 or 800GB when I brought it back to a nice 4 disk raid 5 array :)01:55
dr_willisSo i imagine in a year. 4gb will be very common.01:55
dr_willisand once they start gettng 64bit windows being common, it will get higher.01:55
* _2 wonders if more than 2g ram is actually useful at this point tho01:56
gm04030276dr_willis: Cool. My desktop systems i built myself so they all have two...well one has 4 another none and the other two one but originally all two! and laptops where 768MB, 2GB and one bought today for new company has two01:56
dr_willisIt is for my games. :) and torrents while i play games..01:56
NickPresta_2, for most things, I say no01:57
NickPrestaMost games aren't ram intensive anyways01:57
dr_willisThey are drive/load intensive.. so ram = cache01:57
NickPrestafor the extra 50 bucks for 2GB of quality RAM, you might as well upgrade your process or video card to the next price point01:57
_2NickPresta yeah cause i ran kubuntu on a p1 with 64m ram and no swap     so ram is not a shortage in most cases.01:57
dr_willisRam is about the easiest thing to upgrade.  If you can fit your hands in the case.01:58
gm04030276lol01:58
NickPrestaI've hit my swap once or twice in the last 2 years I've had 2GB of RAM. In Windows, that's another story...01:58
ryansRam be maxed out on this sysem.01:58
gm04030276you don't even have to see into the case...well to take it out anyway...01:58
ryansEr system01:58
gm04030276webmin says....using 1.22GB atm and im not doing much more than this and web browsing01:59
dr_willisIt seems the video cards are always over the ram these days.. :(01:59
dr_willisor so close to it.. ya gotta pull too much junk to get to the ram01:59
NickPrestagm04030276, 1.22GB of RAM used for IRC and browser? What?02:00
ryansIndeed..The vidcards are even more important then cpus these days.02:00
_2gm04030276 then webmin is probably measuring the cached and alocated02:00
NickPrestagm04030276, free -m02:00
_2Memory Used/Total Percent: 27/502 MB (5%)02:00
_2Swap   Used/Total Percent: 0/0 MB (0%)02:00
gm04030276well i have about 40 tabs open in two firefox windows...02:00
_2my usage atm   ^02:00
NickPresta_2, you know your setup is special though ;)02:00
dr_willisgm04030276,  that means flash is taking up 90% of your ram then. :)02:01
ryansO.o; _2 how the heck do you have it that low?02:01
_2ryans ummm idk.02:01
NickPrestaMy average RAM usage for daily tasks, which mean XChat, Amarok, Pidgin, and Konsole, plus Konqueror and KDE4 is ~400MB of RAM. If I close all my apps and just have a blank desktop, I'm sure I get < 300MB used02:01
gm04030276free says 3805/3881 used02:01
ryansabout 00MBs?02:01
_2ryans actually that's high02:02
gm04030276and 0/3812 swap02:02
ryansern100mb02:02
NickPrestagm04030276, look at the +/- line after it02:02
ryansDamn Keyboard..02:02
gm04030276oh...used:1234, free 264702:02
_2ryans my server running same setup but idling says this...02:02
_2Memory Used/Total Percent: 7/123 MB (5%)02:02
_2Swap   Used/Total Percent: 0/0 MB (0%)02:02
_2that's obviously without x running there ^02:03
NickPrestaMy X usage is ~90MB right now. =(02:03
_23d ?02:04
ryansHow the heck do you turn off the obnoxious ache anyways?02:04
NickPrestayep02:04
_2http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/351902:04
ryans*cache02:06
tohdiolá02:07
ryansIf I could remove the physical chache from memory I could get about 300 megs back02:07
tohdialguém pode me ajudar ?02:07
NickPresta_2, Memory Used/Total Percent: 410/2026 MB (20%), No swap used.02:08
NickPresta!es | tohdi02:08
ubottutohdi: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.02:08
tohdianybody could help me ?02:08
ubuntupode dizer02:08
cahueztohdi, hello..02:09
tohdibom, tenho um modem vivo USB U893 e consegui a proeza de me conectar com ele, mas não consigo acessar a net através de um avegador como o konqueror, por exemplo02:10
NickPrestatohdi, English Only02:10
tohdioh, sorry02:10
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NickPrestatohdi, whats the problem?02:10
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tohdiso, i have some problems with my modem pci02:11
tohdiThe model is a U893 from lexicom, i've connected with him02:12
_2NickPresta cool.    i have noticed that the more memory you have the more is eaten but grimlins...    i have never seen a system under about 5%...   now that wouldn't seem odd but take that server i posted at 5% = 7m    i can add another stick to it making it 256m and reboot and it will still be at about 5%   but it's now 14~15m   and i know for a fact that nothing is actually using more ram...   i think that a small % is used by the02:12
_2but/by02:12
NickPresta_2, yeah. I noticed that too on my laptop, which only has 256 ram02:14
jaakkome_So how is KDE4 coming along?02:15
ryansLooks like Vista...Is that a good omen?02:15
dr_willisjaakkome_,  the more i use kde4.. the more i start using gnome...02:15
jaakkome_mmh02:16
ryansI'm still  using KDE 3.02:16
DreadKnightjaakkome_: it's great man02:16
NickPrestajaakkome_, KDE 4.1.1 is awesome02:16
dr_willisbecause it comes witgh a darkish theme?02:16
Agent_bobdr_willis heh.  that bad ?02:16
dr_willisI dont find kde4 to even be useable for my 'minimal daily' needs02:16
NickPrestadr_willis, really? Which version?02:16
DreadKnighti use kde4 all the time02:16
DreadKnightrock solid stable02:16
dr_willis4.1.1 i think. I installed it from the ppa stuff the other day02:16
NickPrestaSame, KDE 4 beta might have been very rough around the edge but since I've been using 4.1, its been nothing but good - no crashes, no nothing.02:17
dr_willisDreadKnight,  i would have to say its about as stable as a  MashedPotatoe house built on a Jello foundation, in an Earthquake here.02:17
dr_willisOn my laptop. :)02:17
DreadKnightdr_willis: had more issues with gnome and kde302:17
NickPrestadr_willis, *shrug*. I found it fairly stable on my laptop, using an older version of KDE 402:17
ryansOh flash 10 installed.02:17
dr_willisI cant recall gnome or kde 3 crashing on me lately.02:18
Agent_bobdr_willis mashed potatoe house on jello  will stand an earthquake better than glass house on solid rock...02:18
NickPrestadr_willis, kde 3 is still good (and I believe .10 made it even stabler. I just love KDE 4 now, especially when using Konqueror as a browser...02:18
* DreadKnight wished gnome guys would forget daydreaming about gtk+ v3 and just go with QT; still need for app rewritten, but better licence :P02:19
DreadKnights*02:19
ryansWell if I can do a side install with 4.1.1 and 3 I might try it...02:20
Agent_bob!kde402:20
ubottuKDE 4.1.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.1 - Support in #kubuntu-kde402:20
DreadKnightryans: you can02:20
Agent_bobread that         ^02:20
jaakkome_well, I've been very happy with kubuntu / kde3, as a new linux user... I've written some small programs for myself in python, and now I'd like to give them GUI:s... I'd need KDE4 to use Pyqt4 / eric4, right?02:25
Agent_bobright02:26
jaakkome_mmh, maybe it's just the fact that I tried it out at 4.00 and was horrified, but something seems to be putting me off that02:28
jaakkome_l02:28
BluesKajyup 4 turned me away too , it was awful :)02:29
NickPrestaI, too, felt sort of disappointed with KDE 4.0 beta but then I went back to 3 for a while. I then just started using 4 since 4.1 and I'm happy again. Give it another shot :)02:32
Agent_bobi think i have it.   if i  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1 count=1024  then run lilo it should blank sector 0 and reinstall the boot loader ?02:32
ryansHrrrm the repo 404s.02:33
Agent_bobanyone know any reason not to run that on a disk with valuable data on it ???    ;/02:33
chalcedonydoes anyone know of any programs for KDE that will enable it to use gtk in all aplications?02:34
Agent_bobkde uses qt02:35
jaakkome_Yeah, I guess I'll try both the current kde4 and gnome out for a while before I decide if I'll start looking into pyqt or pygtk for my needs02:35
jaakkome_I guess I'm just a bit change-resistant is all :]02:35
chalcedonyAgent_bob: so it can't use gtk ?02:40
chalcedonyon most things they can add files .. but not this ?02:40
jaakkome_chalcedony, what exactly are you trying to do?02:41
chalcedonyjaakkome_: someone asked me for help.. i came to the source02:41
jaakkome_this is the source?02:42
Agent_bobjaakkome_ "<chalcedony> does anyone know of any programs for KDE that will enable it to use gtk in all aplications?"  <<<02:42
Agent_bobchalcedony i'm not a kde expert.   but to the best of my knowledge, it simply doesn't work that way.   kde uses qt.     maybe someone else can help with more info.02:43
chalcedonyok no problem .. he left but if i see him again i'll tell him to look at qt02:44
Agent_bobgnome uses gtk="gnome tool kit"02:44
jaakkome_you can run programs using gtk in kde too, of course02:45
chalcedonymy husband is able to get our HP printer to work fine with kde.. i can't get it myself in gnome..my son did but he can't explain it to me02:45
Agent_bobjaakkome_ yeah gtk apps.02:45
Agent_bobi'll have to reboot my server/gateway  so i'm out for a few and may not be back today...  ;/02:47
Agent_bobdepends on how bad the damage is.02:47
chalcedonygood luck :)02:47
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corinthI'd like to create Konqueror shortcuts similar to those I'm used to in Firefox (for example, shift+enter adds www.[text].net). Anyone know how to do this?02:59
onixguys im a real noob to linux but im trying.. whats the uninstall command?03:01
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onixsomething like sudo autoremove or something like that03:02
AWolfbah, nickserv...03:02
maziHola03:03
onixyo mazi03:03
mazique hay03:03
nejodeonix: sudo apt-get remove package_name03:03
NickPrestaDoes anyone know why Aptitude is not standard in Kubuntu?03:05
stdinNickPresta: what do you mean?03:05
NickPrestastdin, I never see anyone suggest using aptitude. Why doesn't Aptitude get any love? =(03:05
AWolfsmall snippet of advice saught... baught a 250gb 2.5inch usb hard drive, booted into gparted, set 20gb ntfs, 223gb ext3, formatted both, rebooted into kubuntu, went to a shell, cd`d to my ext3 partition, sudo mkdir software, sudo chmod 666 software, as normal user, cd software... permission denied...03:05
stdinNickPresta: it's mostly a personal preference as to what you use. aptitude is slightly more advanced than apt-get though, so people suggest that first03:07
AWolfoh yeah, alse tried chown alpha ./software03:07
AWolfand as alpha again no access03:08
stdinAWolf: you need the executable bit set on directories in order to access/look in them03:08
AWolfso chmod 777 then? (universal access is needed for this drive)03:09
stdin777 for directories if you want everyone to have full access, yes03:09
stdinlook at the permissions for /tmp for example, though that's 2777 rather than just 777 (0777)03:11
stdinerm, actually it's 477703:11
AWolfweee :) works just fine...03:12
zetahi03:14
zetadont know what I m doing03:14
stdinneither do we unless you tell us what you're trying to do03:15
zetasorry Im a newbie and dont know what this is except a chat program03:16
corinthAny way to enable forward/backward browsing via my forward/back buttons on my mouse in Konqueror?03:17
stdinzeta: ok :) You're on a thing called IRC (Internet Relay Chat) on a server called Freenode. we use this channel (room) for live Kubuntu support03:17
zetaok so its not just a general chit chat thing,it s only for getting help with ubuntu?03:18
stdinzeta: this channel is for support, but we have #kubuntu-offtopic for general chat. and this server has many other channel for many other projects (not just K/Ubuntu)03:19
stdinto join another channel you type in '/join #channel-name', that should open another tab or window for that channel03:20
zetathank you. well when I decide where to start with the questions ,I ll be glad to return and ask for help03:20
xjohnthomasxhi guys, i installed a fresh 8.04.. and it installs and the runs fine. i do a kubuntu-restriced-drivers install, and then i reboot, and then it always hangs in the bootup and wont boot.03:22
xjohnthomasxwhy is that? help????03:22
Socceroosxjohnthomasx: does it give you any specific errors during boot?03:23
xjohnthomasxno, just hangs03:23
AWolfI`m gonna meander off and start backing up, many thanks stdin for pushing me in the right direction :)03:23
BluesKajxjohnthomasx, did you install a previous driver before the restricted one , if so you have to uninstall the previous driver first then the restricted.03:24
nejodexjohnthomasx: remove "quiet" and "splash" from the kernel boot line so you can see were it hangs03:24
xjohnthomasxnope.. it was the first package beyond the initial install that i installed03:25
xjohnthomasxit hangs just before the eth0 rtl8186 something03:25
Socceroosnejode: may need to take him through that.03:25
Socceroosie, show him how03:25
xjohnthomasxi did that03:25
xjohnthomasxand it hangs there.. right before eth0 rtl8186 or something03:25
nejodethat's a network card03:26
BluesKajok , what's the monitor configuration, plugnplay ..look in system settings/monitor and display03:26
xjohnthomasxyup it's my wireless card03:26
xjohnthomasxyou asking me?03:26
xjohnthomasxmonitor?03:26
nejodertl means Realtek03:26
xjohnthomasxyeah it's the driver/chip of the on board wireless card03:27
SocceroosBluesKaj: he can't boot.03:27
BluesKajok, NM03:27
nejode¿laptop?03:27
xjohnthomasxSocceroos: what swhould i do?03:27
nejodexjohnthomasx: ¿laptop?03:28
xjohnthomasxno desk03:28
xjohnthomasxdesktop03:28
nejodepull out the wireless card and try,,, trial and error03:29
xjohnthomasx8.04 64bit.. on a new hp pavilion elite 9150f03:29
xjohnthomasxi cant pull it out03:29
xjohnthomasxthe wireles works fine initially03:29
xjohnthomasxonly after the restricted is installed does it hang on boot03:29
nejodeit's not compatible with the new driver maybe03:29
Soccerooswell, I'm not exactly sure what the issue is. so my thoughts would be to either 1) boot using live cd, mount your / partition and have a look at what your log files are saying or 2) re-install kubuntu and avoid the restricted-drivers package.03:30
nejoderealtek provides driver for linix03:30
xjohnthomasxSocceroos: i need the restricted drivers for flash and what not03:30
nejode*linux03:30
xjohnthomasxi can do 1, but i need guidance with that.. dont kno what im looking for..03:30
xjohnthomasxi will do that03:30
xjohnthomasxone sec.. boot with live cd..03:30
Socceroosyou can install flash and whatnot without installing the entire package03:30
nejodeis there a kubuntu-resticted-drivers package?03:31
nejodeisn't it "kubuntu-restricted-extras?03:31
Socceroosthere is also the restricted-manager03:32
xjohnthomasxbtw, live cd only boots without hanging when i use now live cd try kubuntu with safe graphics mode..03:32
Socceroosok03:32
Socceroosso it may be a video driver issue03:32
BluesKajthat's whay I mentioned the monitor03:34
Socceroosyeah03:34
ubuntoil!linux03:34
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xjohnthomasxok im in the live cd03:39
xjohnthomasxSocceroos: what now03:39
wthello, everyone03:44
tekteenhi03:45
wtIs it normal for the boot splash screen to lock up my Dell 1420 laptop?03:45
wtThis is on Ibex.03:45
tekteen!ibex03:46
ubottuAlpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for K/ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion. Kubuntu Intrepid will have KDE 4 as the default Desktop Environment - see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!03:46
wtThanks for the help03:46
tekteennp03:46
niallwoot! i finally got both my monitors working03:47
tekteenanyone know how to create an array of char arrays in C?03:47
tekteenofftopic lol03:47
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stdintekteen: ask in -offtopic then03:48
ryansI know arrays in Js but not C.03:48
smartywhat up guys... I d/l'd 4.1 and when I rebooted after install, all my icons are gone as well as the "start" menu. I am unable to navigate anywhere... any ideas on fixes?03:49
wtsmarty: hardy or ibex?03:49
smartyhardy03:49
ryansYou should beable to add it back in.03:49
wtthe 4.1 for hardy doesn't use your KDE3 configuration at all03:50
smartyno, i mean I had 4.0 before installing 4.103:50
wtoh03:50
smartyi was processing all through 4.0 at one point, sorry bout that03:50
wtwell...the 4.1 packages really did a number on my system when I went to upgrade to ibex03:50
wthmmm....I didn't have much luck with the hardy 4.1 packages03:51
smartyhaha, okay...03:51
smartythanks03:51
stdinsmarty: if you right-click on the desktop do you get a menu with "Add panel" ?03:52
smartyi cant right-click. thats the problem :(03:52
stdindoes alt-f2 bring up the run dialog?03:53
smartyall i can access is whatever i had shut the computer down with (firefox and Konsol)03:53
smartynope03:53
stdintry, in konsole, putting in "mv ~/.kde4/share/config/plasmarc ~/.kde4/share/config/plasmarc.bak" then "kdeinit4_wrapper plasma"03:54
smartyah, okay.. let me copy that down and give it a try03:54
smartymv: missing destination file operand after `/home/aakash/.kde4/share/config/plasmarc~/.kde4/share/config/plasmarc.bak'03:57
smartywhat did i do wrong :)03:57
smartyoh nvm03:57
stdinspaces are important ;)03:58
smartystdin: do i just execute "kdeinit4_wrapper plasma" ?03:58
smarty(as a command)03:58
stdinyeah03:59
stdinit should run plasma in the way it "expects" to be run03:59
smartylet's give that a shot, be right back. (thanks for the help though)03:59
asd_olaaaaaaaaaaaaa04:00
stdin!es04:00
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ryansAlright, time to see if flash 10 will freeze my system.04:01
ryansSo far so good04:04
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smartyok back, im right now running on 4.104:04
smartyand did everything you said04:04
smartybut it seems that plasma keeps crashing04:04
ryans_2 are you still online?04:05
stdinsmarek: try moving (or removing) ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc and try starting plasma again. sometimes the old config can conflict for some reason04:06
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smartyAH HA!!!!!!!!!04:08
smartyI LOVE YOU STDIN!04:08
stdinit's usually either plasmarc or plasma-appletsrc that make plasma crash04:09
smartythank you soooo much04:09
stdinno problem :)04:09
smartystdin: is it possible to manually shift around the widgets on  a panel?04:12
silverfidahi all04:13
stdinsmarty: if you click the little plasma icon on the right-most side of the panel you should be able to drag the widgets around04:14
bittin7wi9004:14
smartyim an idiot. thank you once again04:14
stdinit's new in 4.1, so it's not surprising you didn't know about it04:14
smarty:)04:15
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silverfidamay i ask how to install two folders that came out of a tar.gz04:15
stdintar.gz is just a compressed archive (like .zip), how you install whatever's in it depends on what's in it04:16
stdinthere's usually some "README" or "INSTALL" file with instructions04:16
silverfidano just two folders that are supposed to be drivers for WLAN04:17
silverfidaone is module and the other is wpa_supplicant04:18
silverfidai've been trying for a few days now... im about to give it up.04:18
stdinI don't know, my wifi card just worked. have you tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs ?04:19
silverfidai tried reading them... they made no sense04:20
silverfidathey confused me04:20
smartygenerally, drivers for built in LAN cards are compatible with Windows04:20
silverfidaone i got is a pci, its a d-link dwl-g510 ver c204:21
silverfidaubuntu sees it, but it says its a ralink rev b2 or something04:22
mr---t-silverfida: this site has a link to drivers for i thttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsDlink04:26
mr---t-https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsDlink04:26
mr---t-says it's hard to compile though04:26
silverfidathank you for the links.... and yes you bet its hard!!  ive been trying for days now04:29
mr---t-with the driver listed in the link?04:29
silverfidai down loaded 4 drivers claiming to be for the card i got.04:31
silverfidathe one in the link is broken04:31
xjohnthomasxSocceroos: WHAT DO I DO to check the logs?? i dont kno what im looking for04:31
silverfidahow to insert the the 2 files that came out of the tar.gz?04:36
silverfidatoo bad there's no "up-date driver" like in windows.04:39
Socceroosxjohnthomasx: are you still around?04:40
sorush4Hi how do I add myself to sudo?04:43
sorush4I think I have an sudo file in my home directory should I delete that ?04:43
stdinsorush4: are you the only user on the system?04:44
silverfidayes i am the only one.  do you think it wont work on 64bit system?04:51
silverfidasorry... i thought that was for me.04:52
mr---t-Jucato:  did you try the experiment you gave me?04:54
VanessaEKDE has stopped automounting USB devices on my box, but I can mount manually (e.g. my external hard disk/enclosure). How do I fix this?05:07
silverfidathank all that helped.05:07
silverfidabye05:07
GabrielVieiraThere is any KDE black theme that don't put the default (usually white) background of a page a dark color?05:20
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boozerwhat conference?05:21
boozerwhat conference?05:25
boozerwhat conference?05:25
boozerwhat conference?05:25
boozerwhat conference?05:25
silverfidawhere's the device manager in ubuntu 8.04 ?05:30
xjohnthomasxSocceroos:05:30
xjohnthomasxyou there?05:30
xjohnthomasxhow am i supposed to figure out what is going wrong?05:31
smartyhow do i install/apply a .skz widget?05:36
smarty(running 4.105:36
smartynevermind05:37
administratorhey all05:42
administratorfor whatever reason, ndiswrapper will only find networks after i install the windows driver, and before i reboot05:42
administratorat which point, if i want it to successfully scan for networks, i need to uninstall the windows driver, reboot, and reinstall the windows driver05:43
administratorhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/26434005:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 264340 in ndiswrapper "ndiswrapper:  cant scan for networks after first reboot post-install" [Undecided,New]05:47
administratorhttp://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3097289.005:47
administratori dont know why its still listed as new, its actually a few weeks old05:47
kevin_hello..............can anyone tell me how to  find out if I  have a "intel ethernet hardware supported by the e 1000 e driver (Intel GigE) I want to use teh live  cd for intrepid ibex?05:49
administratorsudo lspci -v05:49
administratorkevin_: then just look for it05:49
kevin_thanks admin, I am loooking now05:50
administratoror try sudo lspci -vv |grep -i ethernet05:50
chrisruls00can someone point me to a guide about x11vnc?05:51
administratorgoogle says http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4556505:51
kevin_Intel Corporation 82562V 10/100 Network Connection (rev 02) this looks like I am ok05:52
kevin_thanks for your hellp  mr Admin.05:53
pc_ayuda kubuntu05:54
pc_8..0405:54
chrisruls00I was hoping for a more general guide. What I want to do Is use ssh tunneling to start x11vnc the way I want. I can already do that but only if I logged in before I left my computer and if the user I log-into on ssh is the same user. I want to be able to sart x11vnc on a disblay that isn't up yet and to have the kdm log-in screen come up.05:54
pc_ayuda kubuntu 8.0405:55
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* onix test06:00
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smartyim trying to switch my plasma theme, and i cannot seem to find the "name=default" portion to change in ~/.kde4/apps/config/plasmarc06:21
ray__??06:23
stdinsmarek: right click the desktop -> Desktop Settings06:24
smartyahaha okay thanks yet again06:25
boozerwhat conference?06:27
boozerwhat conference?06:27
ronnie_has any found a big difference in switching from 8.04 to kde 4.1.1?,  wondering if I should wait for 8.10 instead?06:28
ronnie_in performance i mean = )    read it's supposely 30% faster?06:29
ronnie_hello?...tap..tap..tap....is this thing on?  hehe06:32
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administratoranyone else ever notice that ndiswrapper + xp module only finds networks till you reboot.  afterwards i need to uninstall driver, reboot, reinstall driver, then i can scan for networks again...  until i reboot07:09
administratorhttp://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3097289.0  <---  i made a post about it07:09
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||arifaXHi, I want to use a ppd file for my printer. OpenPrinting Database says I should use postscript with a ppd (I already got that ppd) how to configure that one right?07:42
hellhoundcan someone help me get a wifi setup?  I have been following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766560 but not being able to connect to my access point07:46
||arifaXhellhound: i have hardy here and the wlan with the broadcom worked out of the box (after downloading the drivers via the restricted drivers) nearly all down automatically. maybe you should make sure, that this howto is not outdated?07:48
hellhoundok let me make sure i have that installed07:48
latexinkhello all.. anyone wanna help an Ubuntu n00b with something simple?07:51
sorush20hi07:52
sorush20I will pay money for anyone who makes a printbill package07:52
sorush20for hardy07:52
hellhound||arifaX: it is still not wireless info in knetworkmanager07:55
||arifaXhellhound: what computer? did you start wireless (maybe some key on your notebook or a switch?)07:56
||arifaXCan someone help me to install a printer and its ppd file on kubuntu?07:58
hellhound||arifaX: it is a dv5000 under manual configuration it has dhcp check but shows the wrong ip08:00
hellhound||arifaX: any suggestions?08:03
shepherdwhy is ubuntu so hard08:03
||arifaXhellhound: maybe you find a tutorial for your dv5000 mostly they describe also how they did the wireless!08:04
||arifaXhellhound: look here maybe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19710208:05
administratorhey all08:08
administratoranyone know if krfb accepts connections from outside the lan aswell08:09
administrator?08:09
administratorand can someone recommend a cheap wlan card, because ndiswrapper sucks.  i want to use something native08:10
||arifaXhow can I make kdesu forget the sudo password?08:11
administrator||arifaX: i think rebooting should do it08:12
administratordoesnt it only remember for a minute or two08:12
||arifaXadministrator: reboot is no solution, thats the workarround08:12
administrator||arifaX: well you didnt say you wanted a solution over a workaround, you said "how can I make kdesu forget the sudo password"08:13
administratorthats one way to make it08:13
administratorotherwise i think it behaves like sudo, and automatically forgets after a while, right?08:13
administratormaybe im wrong there08:13
||arifaXadministrator: found it: sudo -k08:14
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happytigerIs there a way i can share my desktop with 3 other pcs? krdc = allows only 1 person to view over its vnc connection I need 3 people to see what is on my screen08:27
trigg3rhey08:37
hellhoundtrigg3r: hello08:37
eagles0513875im tryign to change cd's for ut 2004 installation but for soem reason i cant open it from the button and 2ndly i cannot issue any commands to umount or eject cuz its in use how can i force a umount and eject so i can change cd's08:49
eagles0513875anyone alive in here08:52
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theseinfeldeagles0513875 you still there?09:11
eagles0513875theseinfeld: ya09:12
theseinfeldeagles0513875 did you solve the problem?09:12
eagles0513875still having cd ejection issues09:12
eagles0513875but solved y my windows pc couldnt see my samba shares09:12
eagles0513875now i need to test to see if i can connect to my domain09:12
theseinfeldeagles0513875 if it doesn't eject it might be because some other program is using the cd09:12
theseinfeldeagles0513875 like, you have one folder open09:13
eagles0513875theseinfeld: this is unreal tournament 2004 which im tyring to install09:13
theseinfeldeagles0513875 wait, and you are using wine? linux? kde?09:13
eagles0513875theseinfeld: unreal tournament 2004 has native linux version09:14
eagles0513875there is a .sh file which im using to install09:14
theseinfeldeagles0513875 so maybe you are with the console in that folder on the cd09:14
eagles0513875theseinfeld: would that cause the problem09:15
eagles0513875any dns buffs in here09:16
theseinfeldeagles0513875 I am talking about your cdrom eject problem. I don't know about UT. So, the best way to find out is that you use lsof09:17
theseinfeldman lsof09:17
eagles0513875theseinfeld: k09:19
theseinfeldlike lsof /media/cdrom09:19
eagles0513875theseinfeld: confirmed that me being in the cd drive when installing will cause my problem09:19
theseinfelddepends where you have it mounted09:19
eagles0513875theseinfeld: u know much bout bind and dns09:19
theseinfeldeagles0513875 yes, but this is a wrong channel for that discussion09:20
eagles0513875ur nick registered09:20
theseinfeldhow about ubuntu-offtopic :D09:20
eagles0513875theseinfeld: already there09:20
eagles0513875theseinfeld: lol i know command line is my friend09:23
eagles0513875theseinfeld: u going ot hop into offtopic09:23
theseinfeldeagles0513875 yes09:24
eagles0513875lol how did u get the bot to whisper me lol bout command line09:24
Tm_T!bot > eagles051387509:25
ubottueagles0513875, please see my private message09:25
eagles0513875hey Tm_T09:25
mindspinHi, I cannot access several websites (hardy). name resolution works, wireshark tells me that the webserver is resetting the connection (RST).09:27
mindspinit is always the same behaviour with firefox, konqueror, opera and even lynx09:28
mindspinwget does not work09:28
mindspinwget from the router (hardy) works fine09:28
mindspinthe win machine in the lan can access those sites fine09:29
darksmokeyo09:29
mindspinso the issue is between my notebook and the webserver09:29
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DarkSmokehow do i mount a directory to another directory09:30
DarkSmokeis it possible?09:30
DarkSmoke:/09:30
devsoulwhat u want09:30
devsoulmount ?09:30
DarkSmokeyes09:30
DarkSmokei want to mount a folder to another folder09:30
DarkSmokeis it posible or no?09:30
favroyou can mount drives or partitions09:31
devsoulmount no09:31
DarkSmokei know09:31
favrowhere's the folder?09:31
devsoulu maybe create link between09:31
favrois it a read/write issue?09:31
DarkSmokei want to mount the My Music folder of windows xp to the /home/user/Music folder on kubuntu09:31
DarkSmokewindows xp is mounted in /media/Windows09:32
favroa soft link is how I'd do that09:32
DarkSmokei don't know what soft link is ;p09:32
eagles0513875!symlink09:33
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal09:33
DarkSmokei know how to open a terminal09:33
DarkSmokelol09:33
DarkSmoke;p09:33
favroln -s /media/windows/whereevermymusicis /home/you/music/windowsmusic as an example09:33
DarkSmokeah nice09:34
DarkSmokewould i still have write permision?09:34
favroif you do in /media/windows you should09:35
favroafaik09:35
LokiaseHello all, when i press "answer" in gmail, kubuntu goes back to the loginscreen of kubuntu...09:37
devsouli have aa bug..09:40
devsoulcannot log out09:40
devsoul:S09:40
ladajahello to all people, I have an issue with kubuntu intrepid alpha6 and I'w like to comment you to know if this has happend to anybody else09:41
ladajathe proble is that knetworkmanger doesn't connect to me to any wireless network09:41
ladajait finds the networks, but when I click on the net line, the program does nothing09:42
ladajait finds the networks, but when I click on the net line, the program does nothing''09:43
ladajaDoes anybody know anything about that?09:43
||arifaXhi, ich brauch ganz fix nen ftp server nur für 10 minuten, irgendeine simple sache dafür im kubuntu/ubuntu/linux drin?09:46
favro!de09:47
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:47
Kvasirhello09:47
eagles0513875!hi | Kvasir09:47
ubottuKvasir: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:47
eagles0513875!domain09:47
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about domain09:47
||arifaXhi, a quick and dirty ftp server is needed for 10 minutes what package should i use. setup should be simple best without any setup09:47
favroladaja: there is #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 issues09:48
Kvasiri've seen that on kubuntu 7 there was a button on the side of the application bar that hides it on the side, how can i enable it on kubuntu 8?09:48
faileasKvasir: right click somewhere, configure panel, hiding09:51
Kvasirthanks09:52
DarkSmokehow do i remove a simlink09:56
DarkSmokewith rm -rf?09:56
Kvasirfaileas, thanks, it worked09:57
Tm_TDarkSmoke: just rm09:58
DarkSmokeman09:58
devsoulhi Tm_T09:58
DarkSmokeim trying to link My Documents/My Music to /home/me/Music09:58
faileasKvasir: cool ;p09:58
DarkSmokebut the music is not showing in Music, But in a subfolder called My Music09:59
Tm_Thi devsoul09:59
Tm_TDarkSmoke: create link to /home/me called Music09:59
devsoulTm_T, i use kde4.1... but i cant log out :S10:00
Tm_Tdevsoul: how so?10:00
devsouljust see black screen ...10:00
DarkSmokehow?10:00
devsouland need reboot10:00
Kvasirfaileas, i have a weird problem and i can't reach the last line of pixel on the bottom of the screen with the pointer, so i can't hide the bar on the bottom :\10:00
arcasttsomebody czech10:00
Tm_Tdevsoul: ok, so see #kubuntu-kde410:00
faileasKvasir: can't help with that10:01
devsouli go10:01
Tm_Tdevsoul: sorry I couldn't help more10:01
Kvasirhiding it on the side solves the problem though10:01
devsoulTm_T, np10:01
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raul#list10:24
favrotry  /list10:24
eagles0513875how do i get started helping pkg stuff that needs to be pkged10:36
favro!motu10:42
ubottumotu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU10:42
eagles0513875favro: ty10:44
favronp10:44
eagles0513875whats the irc channel10:44
favroI wouldn't know - it's maybe on the site...10:45
eagles0513875favro: u a member of that channel10:48
favroeagles0513875: not even close :)10:49
eagles0513875damn cuz i got my backside banned from that channel :(10:49
favroI'm too lazy10:49
favrohow?10:49
eagles0513875i just built a beastly machine and would like to help pkg stuff10:49
eagles0513875favro: was about 2 yrs back forgot exactly what i did though10:49
favroeagles0513875: give it a day and try again maybe10:50
eagles0513875favro: its a perm ban but i would like to try get it removed im in dev channel but nobody is responding10:51
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Jake_how do you install kubuntu, I downloaded the ISO but then what?10:51
favroeagles0513875: iirc there is #ubuntu-ops to plead your case10:51
eagles0513875ok thanks10:51
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eagles0513875favro: i got it just got to wait a while11:15
favroeagles0513875: happy for you11:16
eagles0513875lol ya i have to wait till admin of that particular chanel can resolve my issue#11:16
eagles0513875nobody is on now11:16
favroI just joined there and got asked straight away if I needed help :)11:17
eagles0513875favro: wasnt like that when i got in11:19
favrotook about a second for me...11:19
eagles0513875favro: i just installed unreal tournament 2k4 using the native linux installation on the cd but for some reason when i come ot play it starts loading then quits any idea11:19
sixtyby3Hello all, I am attempting to install kubuntu 8.04 on another machine which is directly hooked up to a cable modem, I get the message "could not parse the XML output from the network configuration backend" when attempting to connect to the Internet, looked it up on kubuntu forums, no solution yet.11:19
favroeagles0513875: never used it here - any errors when run from terminal?11:20
eagles0513875favro: do i check in dmesg or in /var/log11:21
favroeagles0513875: I wouldn't know for sure - there may be a log in /var/log for it - dmesg won't show that afaik11:23
eagles0513875ill have to deal with it later got tons of reading to do for one of my lectures11:24
favroeagles0513875: it could be a missing lib or dep - I'd run it from konsole11:24
eagles0513875actually trying to run it it says its missing a lib11:24
eagles0513875: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory11:25
eagles0513875favro: im going ot grab lunch ill brb11:25
favro!find  libstdc++.so.511:25
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)11:25
eagles0513875favro: just did a locate and its there11:26
eagles0513875ill be back i need food11:26
favromight be in the wrong spot for that app11:26
favrok11:26
stdinjust install the libstdc++5 package, easy11:26
eagles0513875stdin: what input do u take lol11:27
stdinnon pseudo-sarcastic input only11:27
eagles0513875stdin: thanks that what i need that lib pkg11:27
eagles0513875its working now11:27
kho_zhiyo guys11:28
kho_zhihow to read .chm file in ubuntu?11:28
favroI use xchm for that11:29
stdinI'd rather use kchmviewer myself11:29
favro!info xchm11:29
ubottuxchm (source: xchm): Compiled HTML Help (CHM) file viewer for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.13-6 (hardy), package size 164 kB, installed size 752 kB11:29
bazhangkchmviewer11:29
bazhangoops11:30
kho_zhibazhang, how to install?11:33
kho_zhisudo apt-get install kchmviewer?11:33
bazhangsudo apt-get install kchmviewer11:33
bazhangyup :)11:34
kho_zhibazhang i got install kubuntu but now running gnome, does it matter?11:34
bazhangkho_zhi, you have both? there is a gnome version as well11:35
stdinkho_zhi: you can use kchmviewer-nokde for a pure Qt version, fewer dependencies11:35
kho_zhioh... i typed sudo apt-get install kchmviewer but failed ooo11:35
bazhanggnochm11:35
kho_zhiok...11:35
kho_zhioso falied bazhang...11:36
kho_zhifailed11:36
bazhangkho_zhi, do you have the proper repos enabled; what error did you get11:36
favroyou need the universe repo11:36
favro!universe11:37
ubottuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories11:37
kho_zhioh... change the server?11:37
kho_zhiwow... u-bot-tu?11:38
happytigerIs there a way i can share my desktop with 3 other pcs? krdc = allows only 1 person to view over its connection I need 3 people to see what is on my screen11:44
favrohappytiger: this might help - http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/kubuntu/enable-remote-desktop-vnc-on-kubuntu/11:53
happytigerfavro: thx man11:54
favronp11:54
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happytigerfavro: this one gives me a new screen for each new user I want 3 other to see my current xsession not get theri own new with login11:56
favrohappytiger: I just did a google search - I don't use it here sorry11:57
happytiger:-)11:58
happytigerthx anyway11:58
administrator_HI12:08
administrator_i have a question12:09
administrator_anyone here12:09
administrator_?12:09
favrosure12:09
administrator_Tks12:09
administrator_Am about to remove ubuntu8.04 from my dual boot sustem12:10
administrator_any option to take backup12:10
favro!backup12:10
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning12:10
administrator_and then reinstall all those whenever i install ubuntu8.04 afresh12:10
favroI would dd to a dvd personally so all packages and settings are retained12:12
administrator_ok12:13
administrator_how do i do that12:13
administrator_ya i got the commands12:14
administrator_d u hav any sites for reinstating from that particular dvd or cd12:15
administrator_favro12:15
favroadministrador__: you need two drives and the live cd12:21
favrothat's how I do it12:21
kgxi need to make my cron script execute something in xwindow. is it possible?12:30
favroI have a cronjob to open kwrite showing a message to tell the kids to goto bed - something like that?12:31
kgxfavro: yes12:32
favroset it to open kwrite or similar12:32
kgxwhat do you? just call "kate"?12:33
favroit's been ages since i set that up - it gets ignored now :)12:33
favroI'll fire up their comp and check it12:34
kgxthanks12:36
favrokgx: I made a file with the message and as the command I have kwrite /path/to/file12:40
kgxfavro: thanks..12:43
favronp12:43
||arifaXI have mounted my external usb disk with udev rules and fstab to a fixed mountpoint (http://pastebin.com/m60257607) but I cannot access it as normal user. any ideas?12:50
favrowhat options do you mount it with?12:51
||arifaXfavro: its in pastebin12:52
favrodo you own the mount point?12:53
||arifaXfavro: not but is that necessary?12:53
||arifaXfavro: its root:root12:55
favro||arifaX: I might have your issue wrong - can you browse to the disk?12:55
||arifaXfavro: yes12:55
favroor is it a write issue?12:55
||arifaXfavro: write issue12:55
||arifaXbut I think fstab is correct12:55
kho_zhihey guys ever heard of vidalia or the onion router (Tor)?12:55
favroyou need to own the mount point - sudo chown -Rv you:you /media/pmurr_ltv_usb_hdd12:57
favro!tor12:57
ubottutor is Many Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as TOR, or java clients due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloak12:57
kho_zhii got issue for it....12:57
||arifaXfavro: will be back, have a business meeting. see ya12:58
kho_zhii installed that vidalia through repo but once run , it hangs12:58
favrok12:58
thsonlei have a problem with sound13:01
thsonleanyone can help me?13:01
thsonleplease13:01
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thsonlei use a asus laptop. and when i install kubuntu, no suond, everyone, please help13:03
tekteen!sound13:04
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP313:04
tekteenthsonle, I do not know much about sound. I hope that helps13:04
thsonlethanks alot13:05
thsonlebut no hope then13:05
thsonlei try it all13:05
thsonlebut no use at all13:05
tekteenwhat type of card is it?13:06
thsonleintel card13:06
tekteentype aplay -l and tell me what the output is13:06
tekteenthsonle, can you open a konsole and type          lspci | grep -i audio13:08
thsonleintel [hda intel], device 0: alc662 analog [alc662 analog]13:08
thsonlecard 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC662 Analog [ALC662 Analog]13:08
thsonlethat's the output when i type aplay -l13:09
thsonle00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 04)13:10
tekteenok13:10
thsonlei think the problem is ICH*13:10
thsonleICH813:10
thsonlebecause alsa support to ICH713:10
thsonlebut i'm not sure13:10
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tekteenalsa says it supports ICH813:11
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tekteenI am looking at a debian person who posted having problems13:11
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tekteenthsonle13:13
thsonleyes13:13
tekteenhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/12256013:13
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ubottuLaunchpad bug 122560 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 "no sound with 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller" [Medium,Fix released]13:13
etfbI thought I'd play around with KDevelop, see what I thought of it.  It seems the default apt-get package is incomplete, as often happens with Ubuntu (try loading the RoseGarden music editor for example - it doesn't include any kind of dependencies on the stuff you need to play music!!!) so I'm wondering: is there a simple KDevelop+KDE3+Kubuntu 8.04 FAQ I can read that will get me working?13:14
Picietfb: Whats wrong with the kdevelop package?13:14
GB_Foxhie there! does anyone know what I can do in order to reinstall my video drivers on Hardy_Heron?13:15
etfbPici: Using Add/Remove Programs to install KDevelop doesn't install X libraries or documentation, among other things.13:15
tekteenGB_Fox, the first think I need to ask is why you want to do this13:16
tekteenthing*13:16
Picietfb: I'm not sure I understand.  How is it supposed to know what libraries you want to code with? Its not going to install every -dev package that exists.13:18
tekteenthsonle: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/122560/comments/9513:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 122560 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 "no sound with 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller" [Medium,Fix released]13:18
GB_FoxTekteen: i just upgraded to Ultimate Edition (gamers). And it asked me to reinstall my video drivers as after finishing the installation process. I'm not quite sure how to do it.13:18
PiciGB_Fox: We do not support the Ultimate Edition here.13:18
etfbPici: Come on - the X libraries?  What else am I going to use?  And documentation is a no-brainer: you use an IDE, you need the doco.  The package maintainers are just being lazy.13:19
tekteenGB_Fox: I am sorry but I can not help with that. I do not know what they mean either13:19
GB_FoxTekteen, this problem also occured to my Kubuntu, still after the upgrade to KDE4!13:20
tekteenwhat problem?13:20
GB_Foxit asked me to reinstall the Video drivers after upgrading.13:21
tekteenI do not know! this is the ultimate gamers edition13:22
tekteenconsult them13:22
Pici!ultimate13:22
ubottuThe following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mintsupport), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate13:22
tekteenthey must have forums and other chat13:22
Picietfb: kdevelop-doc is a recommends of kdevelop. Depending on what package manager you use, this may not have also been installed.  What X lib package are you expecting to see with the install?13:23
GB_FoxThanx mate, see ya!13:23
tekteenthsonle: are you still here13:24
thsonleyea13:24
thsonleyeah13:24
tekteenwhat type of ASUS?13:24
thsonlef 80l13:24
thsonlea laptop13:24
tekteencheck the bottom of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/122560. Alot of people have answers13:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 122560 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 "no sound with 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller" [Medium,Fix released]13:25
thsonlei see13:25
tekteenI do not know what it needs to be set to to work13:25
thsonlei'm too13:26
tekteenbut they say you need to set options snd-hda-intel model=13:26
tekteenlol13:26
Nt_nThey, im having some trouble with java. Its installed, but doesnt work? any advice??13:26
thsonlebut thanks for help anyway13:26
tekteendoesnt work how13:26
favro!java13:26
ubottuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper13:26
Nt_nTwhen i enter a page that needs java. The java applet is just grey13:27
etfbPici: Looks like #kdevelop is the place to ask.  Weird, since it doesn't appear in the channel list, but I don't know enough about IRC to guess if that's a bug or a feature.  Thanks anyhow.13:27
tekteenNt_nT: which browser?13:27
Nt_nTfirefox, but its the same in konquer13:27
tekteenNt_nT, do you have ubufox13:28
tekteenit makes life easier13:28
Nt_nTi think so....13:28
Nt_nTits installed via the ubuntu system13:28
tekteenok13:28
tekteenjust to be sure13:29
tekteenopen a konsol13:29
eagles0513875hey room13:29
tekteenand type sudo apt-get install ubufox13:29
eagles0513875!ubufox13:29
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ubufox13:29
eagles0513875tekteen: dont u mean firefox13:29
tekteenno13:29
Pici!info ubufox13:29
ubottuubufox (source: ubufox): Ubuntu Firefox specific configuration defaults and apt support. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 39 kB, installed size 220 kB13:29
Nt_nTyeah ive got it13:29
tekteenok13:30
tekteenand how did you install java?13:30
||arifaXfavro: I am back13:30
Nt_nTvia the repository13:30
Nt_nTi tried to install an alternative java runner too13:31
favro||arifaX: how's it going?13:31
tekteenNt_nT, try to install sun-java-plugin13:31
tekteenNt_nT, try to install sun-java6-plugin13:31
Nt_nTok13:32
Nt_nTbrb13:32
penaHola a todos! ayer me entró un virus a mi particion de windows, y no consigo entrar al /media/sda1 para rescatar mis archivos... En  kubuntu no me aparece nada13:33
Nt_nTit is installed13:33
Nt_nT:/13:33
eagles0513875!motu13:33
ubottumotu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU13:33
tekteenNt_nT: this is hardy?13:33
||arifaXfavro: big question is, how do I get this external usb drive mounted the way ubuntu does it usually but using udev and accessible for my account.13:33
Nt_nTwait, the browser plugin isnt installed, and i cant install it cause its "grey"13:34
Nt_nTyes13:34
Nt_nTwell its 8.04 LTS. . . hardy right?13:34
tekteenyeah13:34
tekteen!java13:34
ubottuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper13:34
tekteenread that13:35
tekteenit may help13:35
||arifaXfavro: got /dev/something -> sdb1 - got fstab entry with access for user - have root:root /media/something but cannot write to mounted drive. so should the mounting folder /media/something not being created by udev on plug-in and work like a charm usually!?13:35
Nt_nTok13:35
penaHello everybody! Yesterday I entered a virus on my Windows partition, and I can not go to / media/sda1 to rescue my files ... In ubuntu I do not see anything13:36
eagles0513875!motu13:36
ubottumotu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU13:36
tekteenpena, open up konqueror and go to media:/13:37
favro||arifaX: if root owns it and your not root(don't mean to be impolite there) you won't be able to write to it13:37
tekteenpena, can you mount it through konqueror?13:38
||arifaXfavro: understand so if I remove /media/something how can i make udev creating it as it does usually for a usb-stick and works out of the box13:38
||arifaXfavro: and removes it after unmounting13:38
penatekteen, yes13:38
penabut i dont see my files13:38
favro||arifaX: I chown the mount point13:39
tekteenodd13:39
tekteenpena, go back to media:/13:39
penai read in a dolphin "Loading Directory"... but no change13:39
penayes13:39
tekteenis the icon of the hard drive green?13:39
penano13:39
tekteenI mean has the green tab13:40
penaonly the particion of kubuntu13:40
tekteenlike some of the others might13:40
tekteenok13:40
tekteenthat means it is still not mounted13:40
||arifaXfavro: i chowned it. after mounting its root:root again13:40
tekteenpena, do you want to try to mount it the command line way?13:41
tekteenit may be difficult13:41
penano...13:41
tekteenthen I can not help you13:41
penaproblem is that Windows has a virus13:41
tekteenthe problem from my perspective is "I need to load a windows partition and get my stuff"13:42
pena13:42
penaand not let me access the Windows partition from ubuntu by this virus13:42
tekteenthe virus is not stopping it13:42
penaexactly!13:42
tekteen?13:43
favro||arifaX: what options did you use for chown?13:43
penathis virus dont stop13:43
||arifaXfavro: chown:chown /media/something (when it was unmounted)13:43
tekteenyes it do13:43
||arifaXfavro: chown me:me /media/something13:44
tekteenwhen you boot linux virus stops :-)13:44
favro||arifaX: you are mounting to a directory - you need chown -Rv13:44
eagles0513875favro: :) i got good new btw13:44
penawell... the virus stop, but i dont see my files13:44
||arifaXfavro: ahhh lets see13:44
favroeagles0513875: they let you back in/13:44
favro*?13:44
tekteenpena, listen to me. Linux is having trouble mounting the partition13:45
tekteenwe can do it manually with the command line13:45
penayes13:45
eagles0513875favro: ya but cant say anythign in there13:45
tekteenbut other then that, there is nothing you can do13:45
penahow is the line?13:45
favroeagles0513875: well that's kinda good :)13:46
tekteenfirst do you know what pastebin is?13:46
eagles0513875favro: its a start13:46
eagles0513875!pastebin13:46
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)13:46
penanou13:46
tekteennou?13:46
penano13:46
tekteenwell look up13:46
tekteenubottu is smart13:46
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about is smart13:46
favroeagles0513875: what you did a couple of years ago must of been impressive!13:46
||arifaXfavro: after mounting its root:root (sudo mount /dev/something)13:46
eagles0513875favro: its OT13:47
eagles0513875lol tekteen13:47
favro||arifaX: try the chown with it mounted13:47
favroeagles0513875: don't tell me I might try it :)13:47
eagles0513875favro: its an offtopic subject not appropriate for this channel13:48
tekteenpena, open a konsole and type sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda13:48
tekteenif you do not get an error pastebin the output13:49
penaok13:50
tekteenpena, if you get an error13:50
tekteentry sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda13:50
penahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/52834/13:51
tekteenyay, I love decoding languages13:52
tekteen;-)13:52
stdinLANG=C ftw13:52
pena:)13:53
penahow is the problem?13:53
tekteenpena, that was so I could see the layout of your hard drive13:53
tekteenpena, in the konsole type                  sudo mkdir /mnt/windows13:54
tekteenpena, in the konsole type sudo mkdir /mnt/windows13:54
tekteenit will not have any output13:54
tekteendo not worry if "nothing happens"13:54
penayes13:55
tekteennext13:55
penaahhh yes :)13:55
tekteensudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows13:55
ubuntu_hey13:56
tekteenpena, this may give an error, I just do not know what error13:56
penahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/52837/13:56
tekteenpena13:57
tekteenrestart linux13:57
penayes13:57
penadont enter windows13:57
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ramiasd13:57
ramirami13:57
penathis is a problem13:57
eagles0513875thats something you dont hear every day13:57
tekteenpena, do not enter windows13:57
tekteenwhat is the problem13:57
penayes!!! solucioned the problem13:58
tekteenhow?13:58
penamount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows -o force13:59
tekteen...13:59
penawell... is a solution13:59
tekteenI wanted to see if you did not need to force it13:59
tekteenthat was what the reboot was for ...13:59
tekteenwhatever13:59
tekteenpena, good luck getting rid of the virus14:00
tekteenpena: one more thing, do NOT change anything on the windows partition. You may copy but not modify or add. If you do I am not sure what would happen since you "forced it"14:02
penaokey14:03
||arifaXfavro: works now. only thing thats annoying now is, that it still asks for mounting it on plugging in. (via the gui) but access ok now14:03
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pena14:05
penaWhat would change if the problem sda1?14:05
favro||arifaX: fstab is only used at boot afaik - so if you plug it in after you will need to mount it - glad we at least got part of the way there :)14:05
eagles0513875!motu14:06
ubottumotu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU14:06
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||arifaXfavro: thanks for all14:09
nill_hi,everyone.14:10
favro||arifaX: glad to give what little help I could :)14:10
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geniiPretty quiet in here14:46
favrolots of folks coming and going tho...14:46
geniiYup14:47
* genii puts on a new pot of coffee14:47
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nnullis kde lighter than gnome?15:06
Picinnull: Not really.15:08
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Gladymythkubuntu15:12
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user7a question please15:18
user7how can a check if all the hardware is well adjourned?15:19
user7if it runs with the right driver and if it have problem15:19
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user7or if ti goes in conflict ???15:20
Gladyyou test it15:20
abby87hello , i am using kubuntu .. i wanna how do i configure my ntfs drives to automatically mount at bootup ..any fstab configs??15:21
abby87in dolhpin one has to click on ntfs drives to mount the devices at bootup but i want to get away of tht option and mount them directly at bootup15:22
user7Glady: how can i test all the configuration?15:22
user7e.g. in this moment i have just installed kubuntu on this PC...15:23
user7... there's a way to define what kind of problem have this PC15:24
user7If it have....15:24
Gladyhow15:24
Gladywhat is adjourned?15:25
user7also ...15:25
user7with the right driver15:25
Gladyfunny15:28
nnullguys im confused with all this gnome kde xfce stuff, im currently in xfce and using "Load Gnome support on startup" -- the only 2 programs i use on this (very low end) PC are firefox and xfce-terminal, but i am interested in a couple of KDE apps that i would like to run, am i going to have problems running firefox etc if i enable KDE support on startup?15:28
ninjafuryhi, when I start KDE4 on Intrepid, my keyboard and mouse freeze after 3 seconds but the system is still running in the background. I've checked xorg log, and couldn't really find anything. Any ideas?15:30
user7thank you glade15:33
Gladyyw15:33
user7how can a check if all the hardware is well adjourned? if it runs with the right driver and if it have problem or if ti goes in conflict ???15:34
user7How can i run a general check15:34
user7???15:34
GladyI dunno15:34
Gladymake it run15:34
Gladyyou'll see if u have errors15:34
user7ok... but in this moment for example my video seems to be slow....15:35
user7I don't know if is that the driver is wrong15:35
Gladyis it a new video?15:36
user7or if is the PC that have more then 25 year15:36
user7s15:36
Gladylol15:36
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user7yes is a 343mhz15:36
user7with 512MB ram15:36
user7and 4.3gb15:37
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user7ok15:37
user7now how can i check integrated video card15:37
user7???15:37
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hoontekeso I'z messing around with intrepid beta right now in a vmware instance.  Man, I'm rather impressed with how zippy it feels, even inside of the VM!15:39
Gladydo you have Devices Manager?15:39
hoontekeis there an expose function, to go along with the plasma paradigm?15:39
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NikLPno version of k available with LAMP tacked on...?15:40
spookyhi to all15:43
spookyNeed some help15:43
spookyCan anyone help me ?15:43
NikLPask the Q dude.15:43
NikLPnot me, mind you, I know NOTHING.15:43
spookyI have a slack machine runninig samba .15:44
Gladya slack machine?15:44
spookyI have a laptop and I want to mount the samba share permanently in a folder15:44
spookyHow can I manage it ?15:44
trappistspooky: make an entry in /etc/fstab15:44
spookyWhat kind of entry ?15:45
spookyI have done the next15:45
spookymy laptop is kubuntu15:45
trappistsomething like: //slackbox/share /mount/point smbfs auto,rw,user 0 015:45
spooky/10.2.52.129/MyRouter /NAS smbfs credentials=/home/spooky/.smbpasswd,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 015:45
trappistthat's even better, except I think you need two /'s at the beginning there15:46
spookyWhen I do this an icon appears on my desktop but when I clik on it I get permission denied15:46
spookyyes there are 2 // at the beggining15:47
trappistare you sure the credentials are good, and you've done the smbpasswd thing on the slackware box?15:47
spookysmbpasswd is on my laptop15:47
spookynot on the slack machi e15:48
tintin_hello all15:48
trappistyou need to manage user permissions on the server side15:48
spookyin my smbpassed file I have root access15:48
spookygetting in slack machine using samba with root previlages15:49
trappistI'm not sure we're on the same page here.  on the machine exposing the samba share, the share needs to be accessible to a samba user that matches what's in your credentials file.15:49
tintin_how can i remove ONLY the desktop previsualizator*?15:49
tintin_in task bar15:49
trappistspooky: oh, also, I think you need 'user' in your options in your fstab line, to mount it as a mortal user, if it's not already mounted15:50
spookyin my credential file the user i use is the root user15:50
spookyI have setup samba only in root user15:51
spookyI tried this //10.2.52.129/MyRouter /NAS smbfs credentials=/home/spooky/.smbpasswd,user=root,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 015:53
trappistspooky: apart from being a bad idea, slackware (or samba) might have a feature preventing you from doing that.  you should do it as a mortal user.15:53
trappistnot user=username, just user, to allow regular users to do the mount15:53
spookyNow I didn't get a permission error but there are no fiels15:55
spookyfiles15:55
spookyan empty folder15:55
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no1peacedragonAnyone able to help with synaptic package manager errors?15:56
favrono1peacedragon: maybe15:59
favrodon't know the error15:59
no1peacedragonhere is what I get after reload for updates it runs the downloading then W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org hardy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A278316:00
no1peacedragonit worked fine last time now it like broken16:01
favroyou can ignore that error and still install afaik - there may be an official way to correct it but I don't know it/worry about it16:01
favromaybe bazhang will know?16:02
no1peacedragonk thanks just was confused as to why it happens and if it meant anything important16:02
geniino1peacedragon: Means it doesn't know if it should trust medibuntu or not to install packages from16:04
s0101how can i format a usb stick i have ubuntu installed on it and i want to remove it and use it for other purpose16:04
favrothnx genii16:04
s0101i dont have the permisson16:04
geniino1peacedragon: You might want to try: sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring16:04
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no1peacedragongenii: thank you16:05
s0101i have ubuntu on my laptop so i wont need it on a usb stick16:05
no1peacedragonand thank you favro16:06
favronp16:06
favros0101: are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?16:07
s0101ubuntu  8,04 on a 4 gb usb stick16:07
ubuntoil!pastebin16:08
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)16:08
s0101and i also use ubuntu 8,04 on my laptop16:08
s0101i want to remove it from my usb drive but i dont have the permission to do so16:08
favros0101: well ubuntu questions belong in #ubuntu this is for kubuntu issues :)16:09
s0101thanks16:09
favros0101: np16:09
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lucianohi all16:28
lucianociao italianik?16:29
favro!hi16:29
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!16:29
favro!it16:29
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)16:29
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Zeeboregister Zeebo16:46
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Zeebothx16:46
_2!register | Zeebo i should have said16:47
ubottuZeebo i should have said: Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.16:47
hailkomputerHi to all, Ktorrent is constantly unable to download anything, it says invalid data from tracker whatever I try to download. Does anyone know the reason?16:56
favroa bad torrent is my first thought16:56
hailkomputerbut is gives this error on every torrent16:57
_2upstream filter ?16:57
favrofor torrents you need to port forward in your router - that is the main error folks encounter16:58
_2isp's filtering out torrents too...16:59
hailkomputermy isp does not but can you tell me how can I check the port that you mentioned?16:59
favro6890 to 6990 is it that they ban?16:59
hailkomputermy current port is 688117:00
favromy isp is ignorant and lazy - I am truly blessed17:00
_2well he's right "TurkTelekom" doesn't seem to filter it.17:00
favrotry using port 21100 - make sure it is forwarded in your router17:01
hailkomputernope, no change. Can it be related to tracker port 4444?17:03
dhqwats the default kernel kubuntu 8.04 comes with on the live cd17:06
hailkomputerWell, I have searched the web about this problem and only solution people can tell is change the torrent client. I seems like ktorrent has a tendency to cause problems like this.17:12
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ninjafuryhi, which file do I have to edit so the X starts with 92dpi automatically? I have to do this manually using startx -- -dpi 92.17:16
favrohailkomputer: I use rtorrent and have never used ktorrent - if it keeps giving errors and google shows alot of folk have issues with it it might be worth a change17:17
geniininjafury: You can put local startup scripts in the file /etc/rc.local17:17
JuJuBeeHas anybody had any luck with the Linksys  WUSB600N  adapter with kubuntu? I see the WUSB54GC and GP, but not the 600N17:18
ninjafurygenii: thanks, I'm new to this, what would I have to put in there to get it to fore dpi to 92?17:18
eagles0513875!7z17:20
ubottuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression17:20
eagles0513875im having trouble extracting this file17:20
geniininjafury: You can also pass arguments to X in the .xinitrc file of the users home directory17:20
Picieagles0513875: You need to have p7zip-full installed for ark to be able to decompress that.17:20
eagles0513875Pici: ty17:21
ninjafurygenii: I have the .xinitrc file open, what should I put in to pass the -dpi 92 option to startx?17:21
ninjafurygenii: should I just use 'startx -- -dpi 92' in the xinitrc?17:24
geniininjafury: xrandr --dpi 92                     in there17:24
geniininjafury: You don't need the startx because this is already being called when .xinitrc  is being parsed, etc17:25
amerigohello everybody17:25
amerigoI need to install driver for my Access Media Fast Rate100 USB Modem17:26
amerigofor kubuntu17:26
DrXPLEASE write your senators (google write senate) and demand that they reject the sham $700B taxpayer-funded Wall Street bailout!  It's a bad deal for all but the 1% of wealthiest Americans and the politicians and the justifications are simply lies.17:26
amerigosome tips?17:26
ninjafurygenii: if I put it in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc, will it do the same thing as if I put it in my user folder? I want it to do this for all users17:27
geniininjafury: If in that config file, will be global, yes17:28
geniiApologies on lag, work is requiring me on and off a few minutes at a time17:29
ninjafurygenii: no worries, really appreciate this.17:30
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ninjafurygenii: edited global xinitrc to include xrandr -dpi 92, but X still starts at dpi 96 (default). Any other ways?17:32
geniininjafury: Two17:33
geniininjafury: Two "-"   eg: --dpi #17:33
ninjafurygenii: oh, my mistake17:33
amerigo hello everybody      I need to install driver for my Access Media Fast Rate100 USB Modem for kubuntu. Anybody have an help for me?17:35
ninjafurygenii: sorry I did have it as --dpi 92, but its not working.17:35
Tm_Tthat reminds me, have to find a way to use 285 dpi usefully17:36
geniininjafury: Lemme look into it, a few minutes please17:38
ninjafurygenii: thanks17:38
geniininjafury: I think in this case best might be to append the line in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc which loads X to include the dpi directive you were forcing earlier17:44
ninjafurygenii: so throw in xrandr --dpi 92 in there?17:45
rrththehi - i have a knackered disk, and i'm getting "SRST failed" in the dmesg, any ideas? - trying to recover some data from it17:45
geniininjafury: No xrandr in there. eg: If was: exec /usr/bin/X11/X -nolisten tcp     then just append   -dpi 92              to end. Since "startx" is same as "/usr/bin/X11/X"17:46
afeijo!compiz17:47
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion17:47
afeijoI have it, I enabled several features, but its not working... any site where I can find moure about compiz?17:47
Frekukde effects is not compiz17:48
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afeijoFreku: I enabled stuff on ConpizConfig screen17:50
ninjafurygenii: appended, rebooted, but still no change17:50
Frekui am no expert, but i thought you dont need compiz17:50
Frekukde 4 has their own desktop effects17:51
afeijoI'm using kde317:51
Frekua bit compiz like effects17:51
Frekuoh17:51
Freku:)17:51
afeijoand I want cube3d, fire efects :)17:51
geniininjafury: Bizarre. That worked on the test box next to me17:51
ninjafurygenii: i'm using kde4 if that makes a difference17:52
Frekukde4 has effects builtin17:52
Frekuanyway compiz shoudl work with kde317:52
geniininjafury: Possibly part of the issue, those canges work for me on 3.5.9 here17:52
Frekubit of googlink17:52
genii*changes17:52
ninjafurygenii: when I go through xorg's log I see that the intel graphics driver sets dpi at 96. Would this overiide xinitrc and xserverrc?17:53
afeijoFreku: and it did for a few weeks on my home, than sudenly stoped.  Today I'm trying to enable it here at my office17:53
afeijoI'm googling...17:54
geniininjafury: Yes17:54
Frekui'm trying to find something through google17:54
Frekubut no luck yet17:54
ninjafurygenii: Is there a way to stop this?17:54
afeijoI'm asking on compiz-fusion channel17:55
geniininjafury: Looking into it17:55
Frekuthats probally best17:55
amerigothank you for help17:57
geniininjafury: "man intel"   isn't showing me any useful driver options regarding dpi17:57
ninjafurygenii: I'll look in mine. Would this be an option in xorg.conf?17:58
geniininjafury: Yes, this is where video driver options would be specified17:59
genii(when the underlying driver has this option)18:00
ninjafurygenii: so why is it that if i set dpi on startx, it works, but if its through xinitrc or xserverrc it doesn't?18:00
geniininjafury: Good question which has me bothered18:01
ninjafurygenii: nothing in my man intel either. So when X starts automatically, does the kernel invoke the startx command?18:03
geniininjafury: No, startx is only another name for the binary named X, which you saw how is loaded in the xserverrc file18:05
geniiWell, a wrapper for it18:06
geniininjafury: The same way files in /etc/init.d start up programs the "startx" starts up X18:07
ninjafurygenii: oh I understand now.18:08
ninjafurygenii: in xorg.conf, if I put "Option "UseEDIDDpi" "FALSE"" and "Option "DPI" "90x88"". would that help?18:11
ninjafurygenii: In the 'Screen' section18:12
ubuntuhola18:14
ubuntuBuenas18:14
ubuntuUna Consulta18:14
ubuntuhola alguien que me pueda ayudar18:15
geniininjafury: Apologies on lag (work again). About the xorg.conf mods, not sure.18:18
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jmuxninjafury: if you're using kdm add -dpi xx to ServerCmd in /etc/kdeX/kdm/kdmrc18:19
ninjafurygenii: it didnt work18:19
pepphi all18:19
ninjafuryjmux: thanks, will try18:19
peppI have an issue with my sound card18:20
peppcan't make it work18:20
tzdany suggestions on good fonts please? Got a "19" tft screen and with the default sans serif font everything is huge and a bit pixelated (edges looks very rough).18:20
peppthis is from lspci : 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)18:21
jmuxninjafury: and you might be interested to read http://scanline.ca/dpi/18:22
peppthe sound card is a realtek alc660-vd18:22
peppeven in aslamixer from terminal could not handle it18:22
ninjafuryjmux: I'll give it a read. I don't have a kdeX folder in /etc though. I'm using KDE4 in Intrepid18:23
jmuxninjafury: X means 3 or 4 depending on your KDM18:25
peppany help would be apreciated18:28
jmuxpepp: anything shows up when doing cat /proc/asound/{cards,modules}?18:28
peppthanks18:28
peppin terminal?18:28
jmuxYep18:28
peppok 1 sek18:28
genii!intelhda | pepp18:28
ubottupepp: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto18:28
ninjafuryjmux:  should i do this: ServerCmd=/usr/bin/X - dpi 92. or this: ServerCmd="/usr/bin/X - dpi 92"18:28
peppit says no such file or directory18:29
ninjafuryjmux: typo: no space between -dpi18:29
jmuxninjafury: ServerCmd=/usr/bin/X - dpi 9218:30
ninjafuryjmux: you're a genious. It worked18:34
jmuxpepp: seems no driver feels responsible for the card - normally /proc/asound/cards contains detected cards info and /proc/asound/modules the drivers18:34
BluesKajhiyas18:37
afeijoI have dual screen problems, who can help me?18:41
agnamhello18:45
agnam:D18:45
NikLPcan someone point me to some resource where I can find out how to install all my drivers etc? I've no proper drivers for anything it appears. No internet, nothing.18:45
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ubuntoil!pastebin18:46
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)18:46
Agnami am french :P18:46
ubuntoilAgnam: poor little you, I'm french 2... ;-)18:46
Agnamlol ubuntoil18:46
Agnamubuntoil: french de où? lol18:47
ubuntoilAgnam: Annecy18:47
Agnamoki18:47
Agnammoi dans les yvelines18:47
Agnamje test kubuntu depuis hier lol18:48
Agnam9 ans sur windaube18:48
Agnamfallais bien changer ;)18:48
Pici!fr | Agnam18:48
ubottuAgnam: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr18:48
Agnamthx pici :)18:49
Pici:)18:49
Dolgothx ubottu18:49
Agnamsorry for my language french18:49
ubuntoilAgnam: yeah pal, that was predictable18:49
amerigohow can i find my kernel directory?18:50
amerigomay you help me?18:53
jmuxamerigo: kernel is in /boot, modules in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/18:53
BluesKajamerigo, in the terminal : whereis kubuntu kernel directory18:54
amerigojmux: i stay in lib/modules/ but i find two modules18:55
amerigowhich is running?18:56
Agent_boba daily shapsnot18:56
jmuxuname -r18:56
jmuxamerigo: uname -r18:56
amerigothank you18:56
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amerigoi've find it18:56
amerigoBluesKaj: you metod give me tree line18:57
amerigoyour method give me18:57
amerigokubunut:18:57
Agent_bobuname --help18:57
amerigokernel:18:57
amerigodirectory:18:57
amerigowith no comments18:57
amerigoin this order18:58
* Agent_bob wonders if this espanol guy speaks russian ???18:59
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BluesKajamerigo, this what i get : /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-19-generic/kernel /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-19/kernel18:59
amerigoBluesKaj: thank you... but i'd like that you comment this kind of result19:02
amerigoi have 3 lines19:02
amerigolike i said before19:02
amerigowith no comment19:02
amerigowhat is the matter?19:02
Agent_bobBluesKaj i only just hatched, what's he looking for ?19:03
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uu!hello19:06
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!19:06
uui have a graphic card, but the kubuntu didn't regconnize it19:07
uuwhen i try to enable it, it say i must log on as root, can someone help me??19:07
BluesKajuu, trying to enable the restricted driver ?19:08
uuyes blues19:08
BluesKajjust use your normal sudo password19:09
NikLPright I just installed 8.0419:09
NikLPI have me as a user19:09
NikLPbut when I go to any config stuff,19:10
NikLPtry to click "admin mode" button19:10
Agent_bob!root19:10
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo19:10
NikLPnothing happens19:10
NikLP?19:10
NikLPwhat's the deal here?19:10
Agent_bobNikLP test in a konsole#  sudo echo boo19:10
Agent_bobNikLP if it asks for a password give it yours.19:11
NikLPAgent_bob: k - what's the kb shortcut for term ?19:11
BluesKajNikLP, you may already have opened a sudo somewhere else19:11
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uuhow can i log in as root?19:11
NikLPAgent_bob: nah I get "boo" out, all right...19:11
NickPrestauu, you don't. You use sudo19:11
BluesKajuu, don't login as root19:12
Agent_bob!root | uu19:12
ubottuuu: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo19:12
NikLPthis is most annoying :|19:12
Agent_bobNikLP then sudo is working.     test   kdesudo echo boo19:12
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uui can't use sudo like that, can you give me some command line??19:13
NikLPAgent_bob: boo, encore :p19:13
NickPrestauu, what do you mean? what are you trying to do?19:13
uui try to enable my graphic card, NickPresta19:13
NickPrestauu, so why won't sudo work?19:14
NikLPtell me about it :p19:14
NikLPAgent_bob: is that you out of ideas? :)19:14
uuNickPresta, can you show me how to do that?? i'm new with this one19:14
NickPrestauu, which graphics card?19:14
Agent_bobNikLP then your admin button should be working correctly19:15
NikLPAgent_bob: um, nope :(19:15
Agent_bobNikLP if both sudo and kdesudo are working then why would the admin button be borked ?19:15
NikLPAgent_bob: that's why I'm here, dude :p19:15
uuNvidia GeForce 710019:15
NikLPit does nothing19:15
NikLPno prompt, nada19:16
Agent_bobNikLP kde4 ?19:16
uuNickPresta, Nvidia Gefroce 710019:16
NikLPI don't think so - how can I tell?19:16
NickPresta!nvidia | uu19:16
ubottuuu: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto19:16
Agent_bobNikLP kwin --version19:16
NickPrestauu, Go to KMenu->System->Hardware Drivers Manager and check the box to enable the restricted drivers for your NVIDIA card if the option is provided.19:16
Agent_bobkwin4 --version    maybe19:16
NikLPAgent_bob: kde 3.5.9 :/19:16
BluesKajNikLP, you must have a terminal or other app open that requites kdesudo , like adept perhaps ?19:17
NikLPnothing open afaik19:17
BluesKajrequires19:17
NickPresta!aptfix19:17
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »19:17
NickPrestaperhaps try that?19:17
NikLPgod damn it19:17
Agent_bobNikLP not the issue NickPresta19:17
NickPrestaAgent_bob, ah sorry. *hides back in shadows*19:17
NikLPstarted working now??19:17
NikLPthere was nothing else open - closed the terminal (which hadn't been open) and it works now.19:18
NikLPun-forking-believeable19:18
uuNickPresta, i don't see any hardware manager19:18
BluesKajno need to hide NickPresta , sometimes that works :)19:18
Agent_bobNikLP ok it was the "timeout" on sudo.  you can reset that in the feuture if it causes problems.    man sudo     has the switch for it.19:18
BluesKajuu, adept in the kmenu ?19:18
uuBluesKaj, what do you mean??19:19
Agent_bob-k or something.19:19
NikLPAgent_bob: I think I know what you mean, but shouldn't it ask for the pw again if it's timed out??19:19
NikLPin the gui19:19
NikLPany way to auto scan for networks from the network settings?19:20
Agent_bobNikLP depends on the groups you are in.19:20
BluesKajuu, usually in the left part of the panel is blue "K" , your kicker/menu19:20
NikLPok19:20
Agent_bobNikLP sudo uses both user and group access modes19:20
uuBluesKaj, ok, i'm in there now19:21
BluesKajkmenu/system/adept19:21
Agent_bobNikLP nmapfe is the best "scan for networks" tool i know of.19:21
uuBluesKaj, what can i do next?19:21
* Agent_bob thinks we may not be on the same page there though.19:22
BluesKajuu , perhaps opening a terminal is best , copy and paste or type : sudo apt-get update19:22
uuBluesKaj, i just restart pc for updates19:26
uuBluesKaj, now what can i do no19:27
uuBluesKaj, i'm new to this Linux19:27
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BluesKajuu, did you enter a password after the install asked you for a username19:29
BluesKajuu, when installing kubuntu did you enter a password after the install asked you for a username ?19:31
uuBluesKaj, yes sir19:32
uuBluesKaj, i can enable my graphic now19:32
NikLPis there a simple way to check if the OS is up to date (ie update if it's not)?19:32
BluesKajok good, cuz some ppl don't19:32
uuBluesKaj, but i can't change the size of the my monitor19:33
TheFuzzballCan someone tell me how to configure dual-head in Kubuntu Hardy?19:33
uuBluesKaj, though i enabled the graphic, but the most resize is 640x84019:33
BluesKajuu , you tried sytem settings/monitor & display19:34
NickPrestaNikLP, apt-get upgrade. Then try apt-get dist-upgrade19:34
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uuBluesKaj, yes, but the most screen size is 640x48019:35
BluesKajuu, what is the configure setting for your monitor and what graphics card ?19:36
BluesKajlookin the same place , uu19:36
BluesKajon the hardware tab19:37
uuBluesKaj, my graphic is NVIDIA GeForce 7100 and my monitor is Plug n Play, Standar19:37
BluesKajuu, desktop pc right ?19:39
NickPrestahe left =\19:40
BluesKajbummer19:40
NikLPhmm...19:41
NikLPwhat to do if I don't actually know what my video card is ... :/19:41
uuBluesKaj, i can do it now19:41
NickPrestaNikLP, lspci | grep VGA19:41
uu!thank |BluesKaj19:41
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about thank19:41
NikLPoook19:41
NikLPNickPresta: returned nothing :p19:42
NickPrestaNikLP, lspci and search for something that looks like a video card :)19:42
NikLP:)19:42
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NikLPcase sensitive  :p19:42
NikLPintel gm965/gl96019:43
NikLPso crap, probably :p19:43
BluesKajI just purchased 2 new samsung monitors and the drivers aren't listed but the calibration software works in wine and the resolution is the full native 1680x1050 under the plugnplay settings ...who'd would have thunk it :)19:44
NickPrestaBluesKaj, two monitors are awesome, huh?19:45
BluesKajone is on wife's pc19:45
NickPrestaBluesKaj, ah.19:45
BluesKajone monitor is enuff for me ..I don't do any games , day trading or activities requiring more than one scrn at a time19:46
NikLPsorry guys, I'm going to try ubuntu - this whole thing is just completely free of support.19:46
NikLPubuntu.org actually has *help* on it19:46
* NikLP isghs19:47
NickPrestaNikLP, what do you mean?19:47
NikLPand sighs19:47
BluesKajNikLP, what Exactly are trying to do, I'm kinda confused?19:47
NikLPI mean the entire help on kubuntu.org is the forums19:47
NikLPthere is a lot of help on ubuntu.org but it's all gnome related19:47
NickPrestaNikLP, we're here :)19:47
NikLPyeah I know :)19:47
NikLPyou're better than the #ubuntu lot as well, that channel is a nightmare :p19:47
NickPrestaand YMMV but most of the stuff done in the terminal is applicable to Kubuntu as well19:48
NikLPyeah so when I have actually learnt wtf I'm doing with that I might up to KU again I suppose19:48
NikLPat the mo I need proper silly level hand-holding, and it's taking too much time19:48
* BluesKaj shrugs 19:48
NikLPsor-ree!19:48
BluesKajahh, instant gratification19:49
NickPrestaNikLP, okay. You can install ubuntu-desktop to get the 'Ubuntu'. You don't need to reburn, etc19:49
BluesKajsometimes expalining the problem clearly is best19:49
NikLPs'ok I have an install disk for both here anyhow19:49
NikLPpart of the problem I have is not actually knowing what the problem is.19:51
NikLPI spent quite a while just sat looking at the desktop when it finally installed.19:52
NikLPlike "now what?" :p19:52
NickPrestaNikLP, now you start using it like you would any other desktop :)19:52
NikLPum in theory :)19:53
NikLPbut I wanted to install IDEs and LAMP and so on19:53
NickPrestaNikLP, which is very easy in *buntu19:53
NikLPand every time I search for help I get "just type sueo sdfg sfd gsd fg;e;KK" and it drives me nuts, so I gotsta go where the help files are plentiful :p19:53
NickPrestaNikLP, using the terminal is often the most efficient and unambiguous way to help someone19:54
NikLPyeah I guess19:54
BluesKajNikLP, open a terminal , type or copy and paste , sudo apt-get update. This should take care of any upgrades required19:54
NickPrestayou can take each of those package names and search in Adept and use that19:54
NikLPbut I don't like not understanding what I'm typing :)19:54
NikLPI do realise I sound a bit thick here, but... :p19:56
ScorpKingNikLP: linuxcommand.org for a bash intro ;)19:56
NikLPI know bash, it's the system stuff that's getting me19:57
ScorpKingNikLP: haha.. install vmware-server and install an OS in it that you can break if you have to.19:59
NickPrestaNikLP, which system stuff?20:00
NickPrestayay, netsplit20:00
TimmyNetsplit :D20:00
NikLPNickPresta: anything that's not related to web dev in shell :p20:00
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shepherdwhy does firefox freeze every so often i cant watch porn like this20:07
NikLPvlc?20:07
NickPrestashepherd, maybe it is trying to tell you something?20:07
gm04030276my firefox has been doing that all day too :( (not watchin porn tho!)20:08
gm04030276and now wget won't download properly from pendrivelinux.com20:08
BluesKajthere's a new FF vers 3.0320:09
BluesKajit's in the repos20:09
ScorpKingNikLP: man <command> in konsole and spend some time on google and look through the forums20:09
gm04030276i updated earlier but haven't restarted firefox yet...maybe a good plan20:09
NikLPjesus20:09
NikLP"failed to copy files" apparently I have a faulty cd/dvd/hdd on a brand new computer20:10
NikLPright20:10
ScorpKingNikLP: dmesg | less and see if there's any I/O Errors on the hard drives20:12
gm04030276NikLP: if you want more of a gui think, look at adept manager, you can install all of lamp from there. Search for apache2 and php and mysql20:12
NikLPScorpKing: I'm on the live cd at the moment as the install fails - will that still work?20:12
ScorpKingNikLP: yes20:13
NikLPcan't even open a fricking terminal!20:13
NikLPwtf20:13
ScorpKingit will take a while20:13
dr_willisIf you got a spare usb thumbdrive. you could try that Netbootin tool to make a 'bootable' live/installer thumbdrive20:14
ScorpKingkmenu -> system -> konsole in kubuntu20:14
NikLPafter three tries I think "can't" is getting appropriate :p20:14
ScorpKinghaha20:14
NikLPdoes nothing.20:14
NikLPthinks, stops.20:14
NikLPI can load gimp in a live environment, but not terminal.20:16
gm04030276your running of the live cd and it isn't working?20:16
NikLPwhat the f*** man20:16
NikLPyeah20:16
uuhow can i install my sound card sound blaster into Kubuntu??20:16
uu!sound card20:16
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about sound card20:16
uu!sound20:16
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP320:16
dr_willisSounds like some currupted libraries or other bits .20:16
NikLPdr_willis: @me?20:17
gm04030276did you run an md5 check on your iso file before burning? Make sure the download was proper?20:17
dr_willisuu,  what soundblaster card specifically?20:17
dr_willisNikLP,  yep. Seen that happen every so often.20:17
NikLPthis happens with both k+ubuntu20:17
dr_willisNikLP,   That makes it even seem weirder then.20:17
NikLPtwo different disks/os20:17
NikLPisn't it20:17
NikLPbrand new unit as well20:17
NikLPcan't see the drive being borked yet?!20:17
dr_willistry the disks in a different box, try the alternative installer cd. perhaps try that Netbootin tool and a thumbdrive20:17
dr_willisBrand new  dosent always mean it works. :)20:18
NikLPI'm not going near flash drives again for a while :p20:18
gm04030276i just tried to install on one...can't get the last file i need from pendrivelinux.com lol!20:18
dr_willisI Like my bootable/live/ubuntu installer on the flash drive. :)used it to  install to a dozen machines so far20:18
ScorpKingNikLP: press <ctrl>+<alt>+<f1> to get to konsole and when you're done press <ctrl>+<alt>+<f7>  to get back. <f1> to <f7> is the standard tty's in ubuntu20:18
NikLPI tried the ku disk twice and it worked the second time - ubuntu fails repeatedly though...20:18
dr_willisgm04030276,  go use  that netbootin tool.  a few clicks.. and its done.20:19
NikLPWOAH20:19
john__My sound is working but only on the front channels.  I can't get 5.1 sound20:19
NikLPI have an infinite number of scrolling squashfs errors20:19
john__front 2 channels I meant20:19
dr_willisgm04030276,  it basically clones the live cd to the pendrive.  not a actual 'install'20:19
NikLPsb_read failed reading page block xxxxxx20:19
gm04030276ok, that should do what i need for the moment...where do i find it?20:20
dr_willisNikLP,  sounds like issue reading the cd.20:20
dr_willisgoogle.com unetbootin20:20
dr_willis:)20:20
NikLPweird20:20
dr_willis!unetbootin20:20
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about unetbootin20:20
dr_willisHmm20:20
uudr_willis, soundblaster audigy220:20
NikLPthe cd is chugging like hell...20:20
john__what does hell chug like?20:20
gm04030276that is sort of normal if your trying to do things...20:21
NikLPgravel and razor blades :p20:21
dr_willisuu,  my audigy 2 cards have all worked out of the box just fine. Youmay want to check your mixer controlls.. I do recall having to enable.check some checkbox to enable the digital out on some of my machines.20:21
dr_willishttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNetbootin20:21
gm04030276thanks20:21
NikLPis there some way to get it to boot from a network drive, or am I attempting suicide with that? :p20:22
andreahi20:22
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dr_willisNikLP,  there are netinstaller cd's20:22
Guest97601someone from italy??????20:23
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andrea_italyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy20:23
dr_willisNikLP,  there are also docs somewhwere on booting from a bootp/ftp server thing.. but ive never done that.20:23
dr_willis!install20:23
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate20:23
uudr_willis, linux has detect the card but i can't hear anything20:24
dr_willisuu,  sounds like either a mixer setting, or whatever you are tyring to play has an issue.20:24
gm04030276NikLP20:24
gm04030276:yes you can do that20:24
dr_willisuu,  are you using the digital out of the card to your speakers? or just the analog out?20:24
uudr_willis, analog out20:25
gm04030276i may be able to help you...i did it just last week...though as an ltsp server not installing but its quite similar20:25
dr_willisuu,  that eliminates the digital out as the issue then.20:25
uudr_willis, how can i change the digital out??20:25
dr_willisuu,  try the alsamixer tool from the terminal,  ive noticed this issue at times.20:25
dr_willisuu,  if you are notusing the digital out speakers. ten you dont want to use digital out.   The alsamixer should have some checkbox to enable/disable it.20:26
dr_willisHmm.. alsamixer wont run on my machine.. weird..20:26
gm04030276NikLP: I would also recommend the netinstall cd if live disk install isn't working. It just loads a very basic live system and downloads all it needs instead of having it on the cd...as far as i know20:27
NikLPaye20:27
uuwell20:28
davideciao20:28
uudr_willis, i don't know why, but seems like there is no sound i can hear20:28
dr_willisuu,  try running some media player like bmpx, or others from a terminal and try to play some wav files. if any error messages show up -  it may help in the debugging20:29
dr_willisYou are  sure everything is wired up.,., and you dont accidnetly have a headphone plugged in. :)20:29
uudr_willis, lol, no way.... but the Kmix has detect the sound card20:30
dr_willisI spend 2 hrs debugging no sound one day.. and realized the headphone adaptor in the 'jack' had disabled the speakers20:30
uudr_willis, how can itbe20:30
dr_willissounds like a  issue of just the mixers are not set right/volumes are muted or somthing then.20:30
uudr_willis,20:30
uudr_willis, should i check it20:31
dr_willisi would check with the 'alsamixer' tool in one  terminal, and playing some wav files from a different terminal20:31
uudr_willis, i'm playing with amarok20:32
dr_willisYou could also chek the whole system with the live cd's to see if that works..  if the live cd works -  then  at least ya know it should work.20:32
uudr_willis, is that ok to play with amarok??20:33
dr_willisTry it and see..20:34
uudr_willis, cause when i plug the jack back to the on board card, it worked20:34
dr_willisso you now have sound?20:34
uuwith the on board card is yes20:34
dr_willisobboard card   - THATS proberly the whole issue.20:34
uudr_willis, but with the soundblaster didn't20:35
dr_willisIts proberly using the wrong sound card as default.20:35
dr_willisand i dont rember how to change cards.. I alwyas disable the onboard befor i install20:35
dr_willis!alsa20:35
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP320:35
dr_willisThat sound troubleshooting page may have the right info.20:35
Tm_Tthat is if you use arts20:35
Tm_Thi dr_willis20:36
DarkSmokekubuntu uses arts?20:36
uubut the arts is good with me20:36
Tm_TDarkSmoke: it does by default20:36
DarkSmokemaybe thats the problem why my sound is not being channaled good to 5.1 then...20:36
Tm_Tbut mplayer isn't using arts IIRC20:36
dr_willisfor 5.1 sound. I rarely ever have a real  5.1 sound source. :) when i do . 5.1 works.. for stero sound. I have to use the mixer and clone the front to the rear i recall..20:37
DarkSmokemy sound doesn't work good on kubuntu20:37
DarkSmokestoped using it now till i get a sound card thats compatable20:37
DarkSmoketry to test the speakers, some of them doesn't play20:38
DarkSmokebut when i play an mp3 they work20:38
uuhey guys, why when i try alsamixer, it detect my card is HD Nvidia not the soundblaster20:38
dr_willisIve rarely had any sound issues on any of my machines.. but - a lot depends on the exact soundcard/chipset.20:38
DarkSmokei dont understand... so i stoped using it20:38
dr_willisuu,  its defaulted to the onboard card. Not the SB card.20:38
uuhow can i change it??20:38
dr_willisrecall the !alsa factoid.. :)  i would check at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting20:39
dr_willistheres a tool to do it.. and i dont rember what its name is.20:39
gm04030276anyone had experience with kubuntu on msi laptops?20:39
gm04030276!msi20:43
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about msi20:43
NikLPthis basically describes what's happening to me.... http://macbitz.wordpress.com/2008/05/18/ubuntu-feels-my-wrath/20:46
NikLPmy ubuntu install disk reportedly had an error on it, so that's in the bin. scanning the kubuntu one now20:46
uuif my adept has some problems when trying to download something and it can't be start again, how can i fix it?20:49
ghostcubeu can try sudo apt-get -f install if this works20:51
uui see, i should run 'dpkg --configure -a'20:51
ghostcubehave u done this ?20:52
uuya20:55
uueverything just like new20:55
uudo you guys know which program for the effect of window??20:59
uulike burning window...20:59
Tm_T!compiz | uu20:59
ubottuuu: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion20:59
uu3D window?20:59
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wolfmansawWell, this is ineresting21:03
wolfmansawor interesting21:03
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NikLPcan't even install the bloody OS now, as per that post earlier (http://macbitz.wordpress.com/2008/05/18/ubuntu-feels-my-wrath/)21:05
gm04030276why not?21:06
NikLPkeeps failing with IO errors21:07
NikLPubuntu AND kubuntu - read that link ^21:07
NikLPPOS21:07
gm04030276reading....21:07
milos_what kind of player opens most of audio formats on ubuntu ?21:07
NikLPgm04030276: don't know what to do now :(21:10
gm04030276vlc21:10
gm04030276NikLP: yea, thats a bit of a weird one.21:11
uu!compiz21:11
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion21:11
NikLPf***ing annoying is what it is21:11
NikLPwould it make a diff with or w/out net cable plugged in?21:11
NikLPkubuntu failed/succeeded/failed/and again/and again21:12
NikLPI did have a cat5 in there at one point :p21:12
gm04030276it succeded the second time?21:12
gm04030276i don't think networking would have much of an impact though you could try it and see.21:13
gm04030276As said earlier, try the netinstall one. It should be a small download...for the burnable image anyway!21:13
NikLPgm04030276: yeah I don't get it. the ubuntu one failed a dozen times, but I checked the media and it said 1 error - even then I wouldn't expect that to cause a total failure21:14
NikLPthe kubuntu thing, first time (of all of them) it failed, I jigged the cd lens and wiped it, then it worked. has failed 7/8 times since I tried to put it back on21:14
gm04030276yea but error is error.21:14
NikLPyeah but the media is clean on the ku disk21:15
NikLPso... :/21:15
gm04030276did you try running md5sums on the iso's like i said earlier?21:15
NikLPgm04030276: um no - wouldn't know how21:15
gm04030276two secs21:15
NikLPfrom win?21:15
gm04030276ah...hmm21:16
gm04030276im still sure there is a way to do it...maybe not just so easily21:16
gm04030276!21:16
gm04030276how about : http://www.md5summer.org/21:16
gm04030276first result on google :)21:17
gm04030276brb21:17
NikLPit's completely burnt to a cd tho... is that an issue?21:17
tekgeekthat is a strange issue I have had various random issues as well and from that article you have tried everything I would have suggested and what I have tried myself21:20
domi1kenobiI have a problem with the AcerOne with Kubuntu 8.04 and KDE 4.1.121:20
domi1kenobithe atheros card does no longer work - used to work with Madwifi21:20
ferdihey there. i am trying to install kubuntu from the live cd. but it seems, that my hard drive is not recognized. can anyone help me?21:20
domi1kenobilspci does not list it anymore21:20
gm04030276NikLP: do you not still have the iso file on your computer somewhere?21:21
NikLPnope21:21
domi1kenobiferdi : type dmesg and see what device your hdd is on21:21
NikLPthis was from weeks/months ago21:21
gm04030276ah right21:21
ferdidomilkenobi: already did, i can't see it anywhere21:22
gm04030276well then i suggest redownloading the iso file21:22
domi1kenobiferdi: is it sata or pata ?21:22
uu!window21:22
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about window21:22
gm04030276try the latest one. and check its md5 against the one on the website21:23
uuanyone know how can i run some win program in linux??21:23
gm04030276!wine | uu21:23
ubottuuu: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.21:23
domi1kenobiuu: wine21:23
ferdidomilkenobi: uh... I'd say pata, but how do i know that?21:24
ferdidomilkenobi: yeah, it is pata21:24
uushould be it21:24
domi1kenobitry /dev/hda1 then21:24
uubut after i install wine21:24
uuthen i try to install winzip21:24
ferdii did that, domilkenobi, it's not there21:24
uuthey say it's erroe21:24
uuerror21:24
ferdikubuntu fails to recognize it21:25
domi1kenobiferdi: what is your boot medium ?21:25
gm04030276uu: why don't you just use the unzip command?21:25
ferdidomilkenobi: livecd21:25
uujust wanna try to install something in window to linux21:25
uu:)21:25
uu!smile21:25
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about smile21:25
domi1kenobiferdi : you should be able to boot then - once in your environment type : mount21:26
domi1kenobiferdi : this will list all mounted devices21:26
gm04030276uu: just testing rather than for necessity?21:26
domi1kenobino1 here with an AcerOne ?21:27
uuno ideas21:27
ferdidomilkenobi: did, it's not there. as i said, the drive isn't recognized, i just found it in dmesg21:27
Agent_bobback.    why does "nvidia-glx-legacy" require installing an i386 kernel ?   my sound card requires i686, so the conflict is choose either sound or vidio.   ???21:27
gm04030276ferdi: what did dmesg say?21:27
domi1kenobiok guess I found my problem myself21:29
denis__!de21:30
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de21:30
Agent_bobpfft i have the opposite problem on a lappy.  fglrx requires i686 but intel hda  doesn't work right with i686 only with i386 "which makes no sense"21:30
ferdigm04030276: www.pastebin.com/m2e7309a521:31
Agent_boberr actually hda doesn't work right period,  but it works a little with the i386 kernel21:31
ferdigm04030276: http://pastebin.com/m2e7309a521:31
* Agent_bob is probably talking to himself again anyway.21:31
Glady Talk to me21:34
ferdigm04030276: does that help?21:35
NikLPgm04030276, Agent_bob: the install appears to be working this time - I think having the network cable in is what's helpgin21:35
NikLPit appears to be scanning mirrors and repositories21:35
gm04030276good!21:35
NikLPwell sort of :p21:35
gm04030276ferdi: what line did you find it on?21:35
NikLPI'm still clueless, even if it *does* install! :p21:35
ferdigm04030276: 286 i'd say21:36
gm04030276*looks*21:36
NikLPso lets say I find out what my video hardware is - what next? intel gm965 I think :p21:36
gm04030276are you doing alternative install?21:38
ferdinope21:39
gm04030276sorry, that was for NikLP21:39
NikLPinstall complete - some fluke:p21:39
NikLPgm04030276: using the exact same cd but with network plugged in21:39
gm04030276ferdi: line 286-7 look to be ok compared to mine21:39
gm04030276NikLP: if your doing a graphical install then your video hardware should be working after its installed...21:40
NikLPgm04030276: well in the doodah I just see VEDA generic (if memory serves)21:40
NikLPlemme check21:40
gm04030276well if it works...what do you need to do to it?21:41
ferdigm04030276: ok, but i can't find the drive anywhere. when i try to install i can't set up a partition table because there's no drive. what about line 288, isnn't that the problem?21:41
NikLPgm04030276: hm well always had the thing that if windows is running generic, the manu driver is nearly always better?21:42
gm04030276ferdi: yip that looks to be it...but I don't know what that means...I'm not anywhere near expert on that (or anything...just got 3 years experience!)21:42
ferdigm04030276: ok. but thanks anyway21:43
gm04030276ferdi: google about and see if you can find a way of being more verbose at startup. Your running a live disc and trying to install, yes?21:43
ferdigm04030276: yep21:43
ferdigm04030276: the disk itself is ok, i tried it out on another machine21:44
gm04030276ferdi: and google the error, see if you can find any info and get on the forums see if someone know what it is!21:44
gm04030276ferdi: what sort of hardware are we talking? computer and hd?21:44
ferdigm04030276: not quite the newest stuff. the computer is an intel 2.4 ghz machine, the hd is (i think) a 80GB pata drive, but i'm not quite sure, haven't used the thing for quite a while now21:46
ferdigm04030276: maybe the livecd is missing the correct drivers21:46
gm04030276NikLP: if its just an intel onboard graphics chip then generic should be ok. You are better to have the proper drivers for nvidia (and i assume ati, i don't know about them, i only have nvidia cards(21:46
dr_willis!iso21:46
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.21:46
gm04030276ferdi: what sort of mother board?21:47
NikLPgm04030276: if you say so sir :)21:47
gm04030276:021:47
gm04030276*:)21:47
domi1kenobiferdi : you didn't connect your drive to a raid controller ?21:47
ferdigm04030276: asus something, and no raid controller21:48
tekgeek!grub21:48
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto21:48
gm04030276ferdi: are you sure the pata controller is enabled in the bios? I know in my P5K's you can turn them off.21:49
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ferdigm04030276: i'll check, but since my old gentoo installation still works pretty nicely it should be on, shouldn't it?21:50
gm04030276yea21:50
gm04030276shouldbe21:50
gm04030276if youuse the hard drive with another installation then thats not the problem21:50
gm04030276unless you where messing in the bios before hand!21:50
domi1kenobiferdi : copy paste the output of lcpci21:50
gm04030276*before the install21:50
domi1kenobilspci i mean21:51
domi1kenobiin pastebin..21:51
chrisruls00does anyone know the window name of the black screen is that appears when you lock kde 3.5.9? i want to exclude it from compiz animations since it makes it look silly.21:52
ferdihttp://pastebin.com/m1bb4d55721:52
CydeWeysIs there any estimated ETA on when KDE 4.1 will hit the mainline repositories?  As far as I know, it's still limited to the Personal Package Archive.21:52
gm04030276domi1kenobi, ferdi: line 9 what we're looking at?21:53
domi1kenobiICH4 should be supported by default no?21:54
ubuntoiltalking about kde4, ubuntu 8.10 is coming soon...obviously with "only" kde4, and there were some issues with nvidia drivers and kde4...is it solved ??21:54
gm04030276NikLP: how's it going?21:54
ferdigm04030276, domilkenobi: that's just the controller, not the disk, is it?21:54
domi1kenobiyep21:54
ferdithe drive isn't there21:54
domi1kenobibut you need support for the controller or the disk is not visible21:54
gm04030276but it means the os see's the controller at least21:55
gm04030276can i assume you have restarted the computer?21:55
ferdia couple of times21:55
gm04030276ok21:55
CydeWeysubuntoil: 8.10 will not support KDE 3.5?21:55
ubuntoilCydeWeys: I don't wanna say bullS^%$ but I don't think so21:56
domi1kenobiferdi : I must go to bed but I would check google for ICH4 and kubuntu21:56
gm04030276ferdi: did you say you already had an os installed on the harddrive?21:56
ferdidomilkenobi: ok, i'll do that21:56
domi1kenobinight all21:56
ferdigm04030276: yes21:56
ferdibye, thanks21:57
NikLPgm04030276: not sure - taking a break and going to the pub now! :p21:57
NikLPtrying out the video driver21:57
gm04030276lol21:57
gm04030276ok21:57
CydeWeysubuntoil: That strikes me as a bad decision.  Personally, I like KDE 4.1 sufficiently that I don't feel the need to go back to KDE 3.5, but I know a lot of others' opinions differ.21:57
ferdigm04030276: gentoo linux and there should also be some old windows2000 or something21:57
NikLPoops21:57
gm04030276ferdi: ok, well try to boot to that and see if it still works21:57
ubuntoilCydeWeys: for me it's because of that nvidia issue...http://www.kubuntu.org/news/intrepid-alpha-621:58
NikLPgroovy - broke it21:58
gm04030276NikLP: you what?!!21:59
NikLPgm04030276: froze on trying to restart x server21:59
NikLPwent into F1 and rebooted, here's hoping :p21:59
NikLPuh oh21:59
gm04030276yip...that'll happen. Well, it happened to me distro's ago. Not recently21:59
ferdigm04030276: works like a charm22:00
ferdigm04030276: the old os, that is22:00
NikLPbroken!22:00
NikLPgm04030276: ideas? :)22:00
NikLPboots into shell22:00
gm04030276NikLP: lol, ok. try and get to a console, it should put you there automatically. and try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg That will reconfigure X for you22:00
gm04030276ferdi: ok, so computer sees the hard drive and can use it ok but the live install can't...crap one22:01
NikLPuse kernel framebuffer device interface???22:01
NikLPthis is why normal people don't use this22:01
NikLPYOU tell ME, operating system!22:02
ferdigm04030276: i think the driver's missing. can't think of anything else22:02
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gm04030276NikLP: you can say either...i just go with the default! I don't really know what it means either!22:02
NikLPyeah it kicked me back into shell22:02
gm04030276ferdi: but it shouldn't be!22:03
NikLPxserver-xorg postinst wawrning: overwriting possibly-customised ocnfig22:03
gm04030276NikLP: yea, now try startx when you done22:03
NikLPah there was me typing xstart, dammit :p22:03
gm04030276lol22:03
NikLPfunkalicious22:03
NikLPworkee22:03
NikLPnow  pub, had enough :p22:04
gm04030276NikLP: good stuff. :)22:04
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ferdigm04030276: have a look at this: http://pastebin.com/mf6b7b4f that's from the dmesg output of the current os. does that help?22:07
NikLPbbl :p22:09
gm04030276ferdi: what is the bit before that?22:10
admiralhi22:11
ferdigm04030276: http://pastebin.com/ma448bd222:11
admirali've got a problem with the Fn+F[1|2 etc] commands22:12
admirali've got an asus z53 laptop22:12
gm04030276ferdi: I mean right back to  ata1: PATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0x1f0 ctl 0x3f6 bmdma 0xf000 irq 14 type line like we have in the live system dmesg22:12
admiralneed tiìo post the dmesg?22:14
ferdigm04030276: what do you mean?22:14
gm04030276ferdi: is there not a line like that. like line 286 from the live system?22:14
ferdiadmiral: describe the problem...22:14
ferdigm04030276: didn't see one22:15
gm04030276ferdi: hmm ok22:15
ferdigm04030276: no pata in this dmesg... i just grep'd22:15
admiralthe ACPI stuff does not work... for example the buttons controlling the brightness do not work22:16
ferdigm04030276: but i'm getting pretty tired now. i think i'll have another go tomorrow. thanks for your help22:16
admiral...22:17
gm04030276ferdi: ok. I'll be here tomorrow22:17
gm04030276i'll maybe google a bit more later see what i can find22:18
admirali cannot find anything on google regarding my problem22:19
admiralanyone?22:21
gm04030276sorry admiral, don't even know where to start...but i may well be on with something of a similar question tomorrow!22:21
Gladyindependant status22:21
ktulu77hi22:22
Gladycounselling22:22
ktulu77I am on intrepid ibex and I would like to know if there is a way to add a new user22:22
Gladyhead cases22:23
gm04030276adduser command?22:23
peppanyone had problems with this soundcard in kubuntu :22:23
peppHDA Intel                                                                                             │22:23
pepp│ Chip: Realtek ALC660-VD22:23
ktulu77KUser don't have any options to choose if the user is administrator, desktop user etc22:23
ktulu77gm04030276: I need a graphical gui22:23
gm04030276lol22:23
ktulu77a gui :D22:23
gm04030276don't know then...never needed to do it!22:24
gm04030276oh22:24
gm04030276wait22:24
gm04030276you could try webmin22:24
Gladyalways in the matrix22:24
ktulu77There is already a very good gui with ubuntu to manage users22:24
ktulu77but it seems not to be one in kubuntu intrepid22:24
Gladymember of the matrix22:25
Gladyno matrix22:26
Gladyanarkist22:26
Gladymatrix appoved22:26
Gladyapproved22:26
Gladyadmiral matrix's approved22:27
Glady?22:27
aapzakgreetings earthlings22:30
Gladynoooooooooooo22:31
byteme_is KDE 4 officially released?22:36
PhilRodbyteme_: yes - it has been for several months now22:37
byteme_ahhok oops22:38
byteme_thanks22:38
byteme_whats with remix?22:39
byteme_4.0 remix?22:42
gm04030276its kubuntu 8.04 with kde4 instead of 3.522:43
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skoleHi! I cant find my cdrom. Whats my problem?22:56
ghostcubeoO have u searched under the bed ?23:00
rickestcheck the coffee table23:03
skoleHehe.... can I use a command in terminal to check the status for the cd-rom?23:03
ghostcubeit should be in /dev/cdrom23:04
dr_williswhat 'status' do you mean?23:04
skoleIf its there...if its mounted23:05
ghostcubehmm noprmally kde adds an icon to desjtop or asks u what to do with the cd if its mounted23:05
dr_willisskole,  the 'mount' command23:06
rickestskole: mount23:06
skolemount /dev/cdrom   ?23:06
rickestskole: for status you probably mean more like: mount | grep cdrom23:06
skolericest returns just a promt23:08
kubuntu_hola23:09
rickestskole: then it's not mounted or you don't have a cdrom link in /dev.  ok: put in a CD. run 'mount'.  remove cd. run 'mount'.  compare output23:10
rickestwhatever the difference is in output is what will tell you in the future whether or not you have a CD inserted and mounted23:11
skolerickest: I put in my installer cd, and that turns out right. The CD I put in first was a music CD. That does't show?23:12
rickestskole: your automount probably doesn't mount audio CDs23:12
jparkAnyone here know XSD?23:12
skoleDo you have a clue?23:13
dr_willisone normally does not have to mount music cd's23:13
dr_willisThere are addons for kde/gnome that make them appear as a data cd with wav/mp3/other files23:14
dr_willisbut thats sort of a 'trick' :)23:14
skoleI just want to play them with amarok... help me dr_willis23:15
skoleAnd use K3b...23:15
dr_willispop in cd.. tell amarok to play cd..23:16
dr_willistheres no mounting needed.23:16
dr_willisor rip the cd to mp3/flac/whatever...23:16
rickestmount is for mounting 'file systems', not devices.  the CD is just where the file system is for a data cd.  CD copiers, audio players, etc., work on the device, not on file systems23:18
rickestalthough I guess you could sort of say audio CDs have a file system, I'm not really sure how they define that and .CDA, etc.23:18
skoleYes I understand that. But I cant find the CD when I put in a audio CD, I must see it on the desktop or in the file manager23:21
stdinfwiw audio CDs don't have a filesystem, each track is burnt as a session to the disk (similar to partitions on HDDs)23:21
stdinskole: when you put the CD in, does anything show in konqueror when you go to "auduocd:/" ?23:23
stdinerm "audiocd:/"23:23
skoleNo it does not show in konqueror, nor in dolphin witch is default file manager23:25
stdinI'm not sure if audiocd:/ would work in dolphin, which is why I said konqueror23:26
skoleok23:26
skolebut it should just come up as a Icon on the desctop shouldn't it?23:27
dr_willisor there may be a 'play cd' button in amarok23:28
dr_willisNo filesystem = no need for a icon on the desktopp perhaps.. I never use audio cds23:28
dr_willisso not sure. :)23:28
ryansHello agian.23:28
gm04030276there is a play cd button in the engage menu of amarok23:29
skoleMay be Im old fashion23:29
Gladywhy old fashion23:30
skoleFound the button... It works... now is the problem of ripping... I want London calling on my mp3 (ogg) player. Going on the bus tomorrow23:31
gm04030276cdparanoia is good for ripping23:33
gm04030276just go to the folder you want to store it in and then type cdparanoia -B23:33
stdinagain, I just use "audiocd:/", click and drag from the konqueror tab to the media device and watch the glory :)23:33
stdinbest ripping too *ever*23:34
dr_willisi tend to use grip for my ripping needs23:36
adi_hi all23:38
elian_Hey guys23:38
elian_anybody can help me install hidpoint?23:38
adi_who is the better viewer in kubuntu for photos?23:38
elian_it's a .bin, and i followed the instructions with sudo, but for some reason ubuntu doesnt detect the file23:38
adi_I want one fast and not hungry in ram23:38
gm04030276adi_:gwenview is pretty good23:39
skoleThat is cool stdin!!23:39
adi_just the baisc thigs23:39
adi_gwenview have a lot of function23:39
adi_Im looking for something very light23:39
stdinelian_: make sure you make it executable or run "sudo bash /path/to/file.bin"23:39
adi_any idea?23:40
gm04030276ristretto?23:42
gm04030276its the only one i have...it seems small;23:42
adi_is it best with kde or gnome23:42
adi_?23:42
gm04030276don't know!23:42
adi_does it need gnome pkages to install?23:43
gm04030276i tend to find they all work with both...not that i've done extensive testing23:43
adi_ok23:43
adi_thanks23:43
gm04030276i don't know, but i do have kde3.5, kde4 and gnome installed!23:43
stdinristretto is a GTK app, but if you have firefox you already have most of GTK23:44
ryansAlright so I tried installing flash 10 onto my lappy to see it will stop freezing but it hasn't.23:44
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NikLPgm04030276: think that's fixed it - might leave video settings alone now :p23:57
NikLPgm04030276: however - the wireless internet...23:57
gm04030276haha!23:57
gm04030276ah wirelessl...enjoy that one...i don't remember how i got mine working! But that was on an old powerpc mac23:58
gm04030276tomorrow will be a whole nother bundle of fun for me too...new laptop arriving :) ... I hope...it better!23:58
gm04030276ok23:58
NikLPeeeeeep23:58
gm04030276so what sort of hardware are we dealing with?23:59
gm04030276what does lsusb say?23:59
NikLPits a broadcom bcm5755m23:59
NikLPaccording to lspci23:59
gm04030276ok, run emm...23:59

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