[00:20] <poolie> beuno: hey i think improving lp navigation would be great
[00:21] <beuno> poolie, I've been obsessing about it since before I started  :)
[00:23] <poolie> me too
[00:24] <beuno> good, I really hope I can get a good round of input on this
[01:00] <markh> thumper: it looks like sourceforge have completed their cvs upgrade?
[01:01] <kiko> markh, yeah, and Rinchen was talking to them about this
[05:43]  * wgrant is swallowed by the Launchpad black hole.
[05:57] <wgrant> Ursinha: Since you seem to be alive, do you know why all subtabs and subsubtabs (and maybe even subsubsubtabs) have turned into several shades of black/darkgrey? It's rather unlike the rest of LP...
[05:57] <Ursinha> wgrant, hey
[05:57] <wgrant> https://edge.launchpad.net/~wgrant/+related-software looks particularly odd with its large number of tabs.
[05:57] <Ursinha> wgrant, urgh
[05:57] <Ursinha> indeed
[05:58] <Ursinha> just saw it on a code review comment page
[05:58] <Ursinha> have to check if it's on purpose
[05:59] <wgrant> I presume so.
[05:59] <wgrant> (although the bottom left corner of a selected left-most tab is still the old colour)
[05:59] <Ursinha> hmm
[05:59] <Ursinha> now i see
[06:00] <Ursinha> hm, no
[06:00] <wgrant> I presume they changed to make them more obvious... although it worked, I don't think this was the way to do it.
[06:00] <Ursinha> where is the old colour?
[06:00] <wgrant> Ah, just had to clear my cache.
[06:01] <Ursinha> wgrant, feel free to file a bug, i'm sure beuno would be happy to hear
[06:01] <wgrant> But I thought the media URLs were by revision...
[08:01] <thumper> wgrant: I believe it was to make them more noticeable
[08:01] <thumper> wgrant: a bit "in your face" now though
[08:02] <wgrant> thumper: That's what I've heard from others, yes.
[08:02] <wgrant> thumper: Bug #276618
[09:54]  * Hobbsee rants incoherantly.
[09:55] <Hobbsee> I thought we were going to finally have a release when launchpad *didn't* break!
[09:56] <Hobbsee> kiko-zzz: seems your fix didn't quite work.  Trying to accept 8 packages results in OOPS-1005EB58.
[11:52] <wgrant> kiko: The old tab colours worked just fine...
[11:54] <kiko> wgrant, except they didn't, and it was #2 general end-user complaint.
[11:55] <wgrant> kiko: What was the complaint? They were unobvious?
[11:55] <kiko> (I'm not telling what #1 is!!)
[11:55] <kiko> yes, that they were completely invisible
[11:55] <wgrant> This is true.
[11:55] <kiko> nobody could see them
[11:55] <kiko> okay I'll tell you the #1 one
[11:55] <kiko> it's that you can't see the delete branch icon
[11:55] <kiko> it's got a Cloak of Disappearance +3 on it
[11:55] <wgrant> Yes, that's a nice one.
[11:56] <wgrant> Heh.
[11:56] <kiko> the #3 one
[11:56] <wgrant> The tabs do look nice, but not inside the rest of the UI.
[11:56] <wgrant> Which is fairly light.
[11:56] <kiko> since I am doing laundry
[11:56] <wgrant> Heh.
[11:56] <kiko> is that you can't convert projects to project groups
[11:56] <wgrant> That's a matter of significant confusion.
[11:56] <kiko> silly data model
[11:56] <wgrant> But I guess that can't easily be fixed.
[11:56] <wgrant> Right.
[11:56] <kiko> it caaaan I think
[11:56] <kiko> but not easy easy
[11:56] <kiko> anyway
[11:56] <kiko> as for the tabs
[11:57] <kiko> they are now obvious but look like a megadeth album cover
[11:57] <kiko> well, without the skeleton
[11:57] <kiko> I think it's just a colour thing and actually I told Martin do WHATEVER is easy to fix the problem and don't let it take up too much of your time
[11:57] <kiko> so I take the blame for that
[11:57] <wgrant> "It really does reach out and slap you" is another comment about them.
[11:57] <kiko> but I will also take help in figuring out what the right colours could be
[11:58]  * wgrant is a coder, not a graphical designer, regrettably.
[12:06] <wgrant> kiko: I note bug #276409 is sort of the opposite of that #1 complaint.
[13:04] <kiko> wgrant, heh, absolutely true
[13:09]  * Hobbsee waves to kiko, and congratulates him on a performance improvement.
[13:12] <Hobbsee> kiko: should I reopen the existing bug on queue performance, or file another one?
[13:14] <kiko> Hobbsee, I'll talk to julian about it.
[13:14] <Hobbsee> kiko: OK, cool, thanks.  It died when I tried to accept 8 together, but 4 was OK.
[13:16] <kiko> there's something crazy about that oops
[13:17] <Hobbsee> oh?
[13:17] <wgrant> A particular crazy crazy happening. This cannot be good.
[14:36] <joshuablount> This may be a silly question, but do bugs / blueprints have rss feeds?
[14:40] <kiko> joshuablount, yeah, they do!
[14:40] <joshuablount> kiko: Awesome, I'm stoked!
[14:41] <kiko> mrevell, I'm struggling to find any documentation on help.launchpad.net about RSS for bugs n branches
[14:42] <mrevell> kiko: Just a sec, I'll pull up the links
[14:42] <mrevell> For bugs, there's: https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/Subscriptions#Atom%20feeds
[14:42] <joshuablount> kiko: I found them (of course, right after I asked in the channel) for bugs, but Blueprints aren't showing up.
[14:43] <joshuablount> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tangocms/+spec/error-log is one example of a blueprint witout a feed ? Or at least a "browser-discoverable" feed.
[14:46] <mrevell> joshuablount: AFAIK, we have feeds for bugs and code. Let me pull out some info on code feeds. AFAIK we don't have blueprint feeds but let me double-check on that
[14:47] <kiko> joshuablount, yeah, we don't have RSS for blueprints
[14:49] <mrevell> joshuablount: For code, we have feeds for all branches associated with a person, team or project and feeds for all commits associated with a person, team or project. I don't have a doc link to give you (I'll go write it, as I realise it's missing) but if you navigate to a person, team or project page you'll find the feeds are discoverable from there.
[14:49] <joshuablount> kiko: Good to know. I was just looking through mpt 's document on combining the bugs + blueprints and had a few questions I couldn't sort the answers to. Thanks again!
[14:49] <joshuablount> mrevell: Thanks!
[14:49] <mrevell> np :)
[15:57] <rexbron> hey everyone, I am getting a timeout error (OOPS-1005EA94) when trying to link a blueprint dependancy. Is this just server load or indicative of something else?
[16:00]  * rexbron notes that this is a consistent error over the last 15 minutes
[16:01] <rexbron> kiko: would you be able to shed some light at on this problem? ^
[16:08] <philn> hi
[16:08] <rexbron> darn it, same problem on both edge and regular lp
[16:10] <philn> for the Elisa project we have a private bzr branch, associated to a specific team... i'd need more of them! what's the process?
[16:10] <kiko> rexbron, it's a bit of a weird problem
[16:10] <kiko> hey philn
[16:11] <kiko> philn, it depends -- if it's for a canonical contract the request can come via tony espy; otherwise, you should contact bac -- I'll introduce you
[16:11] <philn> it's not for a canonical contract this time
[16:27] <philn> bac: ping?
[16:28] <bac> philn -- on the phone right now.  i'll contact you in a few minutes.
[16:28] <philn> ok
[16:51] <bac> hi philn, what's up?
[16:53] <philn> i'd like to have some private bzr branches for the elisa project
[18:55] <thumper> rexbron: looks like a bug to me
[18:58] <Slash_Network> [Problem] Hello all, I've fail to signe the code of conduct : I genereted the keys, uploaded public key to ubuntu keyserver, entred my fingerprint key, then I received an email from Launchpad which countain a link to put the singed texte. I'm bloked in this step. Some help will be greatfull.
[18:59] <beuno> Slash_Network, are you following: https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ImportingYourPGPKey ?
[19:01] <Slash_Network> yes, but fail nevertheless
[19:01] <beuno> Slash_Network, so, you have to decrypt the message you got
[19:02] <Slash_Network> I've receive a mail but not encrypted
[19:05] <Slash_Network> it contain User name, Email adress, key details, UID and this link https://launchpad.net/token/ZH73b7BmP3T906L3cvsC
[19:07] <beuno> hm, I haven't don the CoC thing in a while
[19:12] <Slash_Network> I haven't receive yet the encrypted email to decrypt, the problem started since ona week
[19:12] <Slash_Network> *one
[19:12] <beuno> Slash_Network, sorry, I got confused
[19:12] <beuno> you already uploaded your gpg key?
[19:13] <Slash_Network> yeah !
[19:13] <beuno> ok, ignore what I've said up to now
[19:14] <Slash_Network> okey
[19:14] <beuno> what's your Launchpad username?
[19:14] <Slash_Network> Slash Network
[19:16] <beuno> it doesn't look like you've completed the gpg upload
[19:19] <Slash_Network> I upload in the keyserver.ubuntu.com and the command seems to be with no error
[19:20] <beuno> ok, but now you have to confirm that with Launchpad
[19:20] <beuno> which you get by following the link above
[19:20] <beuno> at what step are you stuck at?
[19:21] <beuno> https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ImportingYourPGPKey#Importing%20your%20key%20into%20Launchpad
[19:21] <Slash_Network> okey, step 4
[19:22] <beuno> Slash_Network, ok, so you got that link
[19:22] <beuno> you decrypted it, and go that link
[19:23] <beuno> if you follow that link
[19:23] <beuno> you should be able to confirm your key
[19:24] <Slash_Network> I have received the email, as I said, but no encryption in at all
[19:25] <beuno> ok, well, follow the link
[19:25] <beuno> you should be able to confirm the key
[19:26] <Slash_Network> here is the email I received :
[19:26] <Slash_Network> Hello,
[19:26] <Slash_Network> Here are the instructions for confirming the OpenPGP key registration that we
[19:26] <Slash_Network> received for use in Launchpad.
[19:26] <Slash_Network> Requester details:
[19:26] <Slash_Network>     User name    : Slash Network
[19:26] <Slash_Network>     Email address: slash_network@hotmail.com
[19:26] <Slash_Network> Key details:
[19:26] <Slash_Network>     Fingerprint : 4C7C1842D909F6211E8153F442FFE3C7E73DC550
[19:26] <Slash_Network>     Key type/ID : 2048R/E73DC550
[19:26] <Slash_Network> UIDs:
[19:26] <Slash_Network>     slash.network@gmail.com
[19:26] <Slash_Network> Please go here to finish adding the key to your Launchpad account:
[19:26] <Slash_Network>     https://launchpad.net/token/ZH73b7BmP3T906L3cvsC
[19:26] <Slash_Network> Thanks,
[19:26] <Slash_Network> The Launchpad Team
[19:27] <kiko-phone> oy my eyes
[19:27] <beuno> Slash_Network, let's try and not paste a lot of text in the channel in the future
[19:27] <beuno> now
[19:27] <beuno> follow that link please
[19:28] <beuno> and you should be able to finish the proces
[19:28] <Slash_Network> excuse me, for the paste
[19:29] <Slash_Network> I'll tray again, thank you for your replay
[19:29] <beuno> good luck!
[19:29] <Slash_Network> yeah !
[21:18] <zooko> It seems like Rhamphoryncus is on *all* the channels that I'm on.
[21:18] <Rhamphoryncus> naw, only a couple
[21:30] <kiko> zooko, it's free to join channels on IRC..
[21:31] <zooko> Good thing, too!
[21:34] <jordi> KIKO REIS
[21:35] <jordi> he is the man
[21:35] <jordi> kiko: I've started training last week, after two years of complete NADA
[21:36] <jordi> kiko: soon I'll be able to kick your ass
[21:36] <Nafallo> kiko: iz not!
[21:36]  * rockstar is wondering why he's been paying to join channels on IRC
[21:36] <Nafallo> kiko: I had to bribe staff to get the "joinmorechannels" capability :-)
[21:37]  * beuno had to as well
[21:37] <cody-somerville> same here
[21:37] <kiko> jordi, har har
[21:38] <cody-somerville> +u opers unite!
[21:38] <kiko> jordi, 5th in the national's championships
[21:46] <zooko> https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/TracPlugin
[21:47] <zooko> ^-- why does the "Activating the Plugin" part have the comment
[21:47] <zooko> # for 0.10
[21:47] <zooko> in it?
[21:47] <zooko> I'm using trac 0.11.  Do I need that part?
[21:53] <kiko> zooko, hmm, good question. let me check.
[21:53] <kiko> zooko, what trac instance do you run?
[21:53] <zooko> Thanks.
[21:53] <zooko> http://allmydata.org/trac/
[21:53] <zooko> Starting with http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe
[22:10] <laga> will launchpad ever get faster? i'm currently branching lp:ubiquity at 70kbps
[22:11] <zooko> kiko: any word on that trac configuration question?
[22:12] <rockstar> laga, bzr is getting faster everyday.
[22:14] <laga> rockstar: bzr might (breaking compatibility with older clients while they're at it ;)), but LP doesnt :)
[22:14] <beuno> laga, AFAIK, there aren't any speed issues with code costing
[22:14] <beuno> *hosting
[22:14] <rockstar> laga, what's your geographic location?
[22:14] <beuno> I've seen people branch at 1mb/sec
[22:14] <laga> rockstar: germany.
[22:15] <zooko> Hm.  While following those instructions, I now get: $ trac-admin . permission add launchpad XML_RPC
[22:15] <zooko> Command failed: XML_RPC is not a valid action.
[22:15] <laga> beuno: maybe it's just a routing problem with my particular ISP.
[22:15] <rockstar> laga, I'd talk to your ISP.  I have to cross the atlantic, and I get faster speeds than that.
[22:15] <laga> hum
[22:15] <laga> i'll ssh to my school.
[22:15] <beuno> laga, my guess is that it is ISP issues
[22:16] <beuno> I'm way over in Argentina, que get 300kb/sec frequently
[22:16] <laga> actually, let me log into the VPN. that would be even better
[22:17] <zooko> kiko: any idea why the instructions aren't working for my trac0.11.1?
[22:17] <laga> this is going to be an interesting benchmark
[22:33] <zooko> Okay I asked a Question:
[22:33] <zooko> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+question/46871
[22:41] <laga> i'll apologise and hang my head in shame. i can pull around 1M/s, but it goes down a bit in the end. probably due to bzr.
[22:41] <laga> i'm just not used to waiting 10 minutes for a checkout ;)
[22:42] <beuno> laga, :)
[22:42] <beuno> what branch are you getting?
[22:42] <laga> lp:ubiquity
[22:43] <laga> i shouldn't be triaging bugs at 11pm ;)
[22:44] <beuno> heh
[23:24] <zooko> Yay!  Launchpad-Trac plugin is now installed and turned on: http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe
[23:25] <beuno> zooko, w00t!
[23:25] <beuno> let us know how that goes
[23:26] <zooko> I'm now waiting for launchpad admin to turn it on on their end.
[23:27] <beuno> zooko, I'm sure BjornT will get to it pretty soon
[23:40] <zooko> :-)
[23:58] <poolie> spiv, jam, lifeless, call in 3m
[23:58] <spiv> poolie: unusual choice of channel ;)
[23:59] <poolie> oh
[23:59] <poolie> i think xchat opened the tab while i was typing
[23:59] <poolie> that's kind of a bug