=== cr3_ is now known as cr3 === LordTatty is now known as Tatty === Tatty is now known as LordTatty [00:40] hrm, it seems that my eth0 device has disappeared on my intrepid thinkpad [00:41] kirkland: e1000e? [00:41] wgrant: i'm not sure [00:41] wgrant: 82566MM Gigabit Network Connection [00:41] That sounds like e1000e to me. [00:42] poop [00:48] ThinkPads are known for their intel ethernet cards. [00:48] * kirkland goes boot a live cd to see if his hardward is toasted :-/ [00:49] kirkland: Don't! [00:49] kirkland: The driver has been disabled for a few days. [00:50] But booting an Intrepid alpha might kill it, as it's not blacklisted tehre. [00:54] try a gutsy livecd [00:54] Or Hardy. [00:54] or hardy,, right [00:55] wgrant: i booted a Damn Small Linux, 2.4 kernel [00:55] wgrant: device wouldn't load [00:55] gone [00:55] kirkland: I doubt 2.4 has drivers... [00:55] Does it appear in lspci? [00:55] wgrant: yeah [00:56] Try a Hardy live CD, as ogra-maemo suggested. [00:56] wgrant: lspci says http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/52659/ [00:57] wgrant: lshw says http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/52660/ [00:58] * kirkland goes try a hardy cd [00:58] kirkland: Looks like it's getting setup, which is a good sign. [00:58] kirkland: Your hardware is probably safe; in the other cases I've heard of it has disappeared off the PCI bus. [00:58] kirkland: AFAIR, if you fried the firmware, it won't even get BIOS setup (so, no IRQ, etc) [01:02] /join #linuxhelp [01:07] infinity: wgrant: eth worked okay with hardy cd... whew [01:10] kirkland: Good news indeed. [01:11] wgrant: thanks ;-) [01:11] np [01:12] wgrant: funny thing is, i saw that announcement from slangasek and thought, "whoa, sucks for them" [01:12] :-D [01:12] kirkland: Hahah. [01:13] i hadn't used my wired ethernet on my laptop in so long [01:13] All of my hardware is far too old, fortunately. [01:13] hehe, I'm currently connected to internet using a linksys ethernet USB card :) [01:13] stgraber: good idea... i've got some old pcmia "fast" ethernet card somewhere :-) [01:14] but that sucks as my test network is using gigabit and that card is only 100Mb/s, but still better than a toasted gigabit card [01:15] kirkland: yeah, I also have a couple of 3COM PCMCIA cards but they were 10Mb/s only :) I thought I had a 100Mb/s one somewhere but couldn't find it [01:15] stgraber: yeah, i hooked it up to gig ethernet to transfer some huge kvm images, as wireless just wasn't cutting it [01:27] kirkland: I've merged your landscape-client branch. [01:27] mathiaz: thanks [01:27] mathiaz: which do you prefer? bzr or debdiff? [01:27] kirkland: I'll upload the package once BetaFreeze is over. [01:27] mathiaz: cool [01:27] kirkland: in that case, the bzr branch. [01:28] kirkland: as everything is in bzr already. [01:29] kirkland: next time you could try to use the 'propose for merging' feature in lp. [01:29] mathiaz: sure [01:30] mathiaz: want me to do that for the update-motd one? [01:31] kirkland: well not really - since Vcs-Bzr points to a branch only you can commit to [01:33] mathiaz: right but i want my branch to be merged into the ~ubuntu-core-dev branch though, right? [01:33] kirkland: sure - except that ~ubuntu-core-dev doesn't exist. [01:33] mathiaz: ;-) [01:33] mathiaz: gotcha [01:33] kirkland: sure - except that the ~ubuntu-core-dev *branch* doesn't exist. === chuck_ is now known as zul === superm1|away is now known as superm1 [01:50] Who turned my background green? [02:00] Which package do I blame for the live CD ejecting and immediately reeating itself on shutdown? [02:00] wgrant: casper possibly. [02:01] As afaik casper does the ejecting. [02:01] (only on some machines, strangely enough...) [02:01] Thanks TheMuso [02:01] np [04:11] * Hobbsee ewwwww [04:12] Is this the place for talking about putting changes to an app into Ubuntu repos? [04:17] * wgrant agrees with Hobbsee. [04:17] portablejim: Depends - you likely want to file a bug on Launchpad. [04:19] I wnt help about getting the changes i have made to an app into the repos (since the app was broken due to lack of maintanance). [04:19] portablejim: Which app, what sort of changes. [04:19] s/./?/ [04:20] App: cdcontrol. Changes: Make the app so it does not fail 90% of the time. [04:21] It's in universe, so #ubuntu-motu is likely more appropriate. [04:21] But you probably want to file a bug (if there isn't one already), attach a debdiff, and get it sponsored. [04:22] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess [04:26] Thanks. [05:53] I think I inherited evil [05:53] I have an RS/6000 running Windows NT for PowerPC [05:55] asac: ping (NM 0.7 dhcp debugging) [05:55] NCommander: You don't Ctrl-Alt-Del to login, but you draw a Sigil using the mouse? [05:57] StevenK, probably [05:57] Its running Windows NT server 4 [05:57] and [05:57] Oh god, IIS .... [05:57] ;.; [05:57] I could run a website off this relic [05:57] * StevenK arms a cobalt bomb [05:58] YES, SAVE ME WITH MIPS [05:59] I meant Cobalt, the element, not the product, you dolt :-P [06:14] Good morning [06:15] pitti: The 25-1 ports kernel has landed in NBS [06:15] pitti: There's a new linux-ports-meta waiting in unapproved, so it can't get killed yet [06:16] StevenK: acknowledged [06:17] the linux-ports-meta in unapproved was nacked by cjwatson [06:17] Ah [06:17] slangasek: It's crack? [06:17] the package names are altogether inconsistent [06:17] * StevenK pokes at it [06:18] Ew [06:18] Actually, it's NEW, not unapprovied [06:18] Er, unapproved [06:20] pitti: Can you poke me after you've caffinated? === BenC1 is now known as BenC [06:21] StevenK: poke (I'm online, just processing IRC scrollback in all channels) [06:22] pitti: So, the scariest thing still in NBS is libltdl3 :-( [06:22] StevenK: yeah, that'll require a big bunch of rebuilds still [06:23] pitti: I think they all FTBFS [06:23] right, s/rebuilds/build dep fixes/, I mean [06:23] * StevenK is checking [06:24] Riddell: ah, so upstream most likely develops qt on Fedora then :) [06:24] Riddell: I just wonder why it has wrong debuglinks then; does it still call dh_strip with some --dbg information? [06:25] Did anybody end up working out what should happen to get lib{32,64}ffi4 and the like caught by the NBS scripts? [06:25] ion_: oh, thanks for pointing that out; it's actually supposed to ignore the cache if any of the .fdis is obsolete; otherwise you would always have to restart hal if you install any package with an .fdi [06:25] wgrant: I didn't, at least [06:25] ion_: can you please file an RC bug for this and assign it to me? I'll look into that ASAP [06:26] pitti: wgrant just reminded me. Should we NBS those two binaries out? [06:26] sure, they aren't built any more [06:26] There are probably dozens of others. === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [06:40] pitti: liblame0 only has rdepends of mencoder and mplayer on powerpc, do you think we can kill it? [06:45] * TheMuso digs into the PowerPC mplayer FTBFS. [06:45] StevenK: it's pretty popular, but sure, we can rebuild it a bit later [06:45] oh, it's FTBFS? darn [06:45] oh. [06:46] and FTBF sbecause of a compiler segfault it seems. [06:46] Whee [06:46] An ICE? [06:46] let me check [06:46] ad_imaadpcm.c:376: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault [06:47] So, yeah, an ICE [06:47] It was given back about 9 hours ago, too [06:47] * TheMuso goes to try and build locally. [06:48] good morning [06:50] morning dholbach [06:51] hi Hobbsee [06:57] wgrant: Bug 276629, if you want to subscribe [06:57] Launchpad bug 276629 in soyuz "archive-cruft-checker doesn't pick up all cruft" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/276629 [07:00] StevenK: Thanks. [07:03] Oh, this isn't cool. [07:03] guile-gnome-platform runs xvfb during the build process which spins with 100% CPU usage [07:03] Nice. [07:04] 3 failed: cacao guile-gnome-platform ksimus [07:04] 3 unaccounted for: gnash mit-scheme myodbc [07:04] Hm? [07:04] (unaccounted for is either "Build Depends failed to install" or similar erorr, or it's still building) [07:04] Ah. Some Soyuz CLI tool output? [07:05] Nope, it's a script I wrote for test builds [07:05] One of the 6 or so scripts I wrote to help with NBS [07:05] Aha. [07:05] Didn't think I'd seen it before. [07:06] Ah ha. mit-scheme is only i386. [07:07] steven@liquified:~/ubuntu/libltdl3-cruft% grep -c 'warning:' cacao/current [07:07] 481 [07:07] Bah === pgraner_ is now known as pgraner [07:10] Yep, mplayer on PowerPC fails for me locally in the same way as on the buildds. [07:10] Gar, not again. [07:10] TheMuso: With what kind of error? [07:11] wgrant: An ICE [07:11] Ah. SEP === philwyett_ is now known as philwyett [07:17] ARGH [07:17] * NCommander shivers [07:17] Launchpad's new UI burns [07:18] wgrant, its a compiler segfault. I did a little work debugging it, but its really ugly [07:19] NCommander: Bug #276618? [07:19] Launchpad bug 276618 in launchpad-foundations "New black (sub)subtabs look bad" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/276618 [07:19] mplayer is in multiverse, perhaps we could build it with gcc-4.2? [07:19] TheMuso: Do you want to try that? It's a hack, but it could get a working mplayer on PPC [07:20] pitti: What do you think? ^ [07:20] StevenK: Wortha try, as soon as I work out what needs changing to do that. :) [07:21] TheMuso: export CC=gcc-4.2 and Build-Depend on gcc-4.2 [07:21] Er, export CC=gcc-4.2 in debian/rules [07:21] wgrant: Argh [07:21] wgrant: It really does reach out and slap you [07:22] StevenK: Right, will have a play. [07:22] TheMuso, I can roll those changes [07:22] StevenK: What does? The black hole? [07:22] wgrant: The black subtabs [07:22] StevenK: Right. [07:22] NCommander: I'll try here as well. [07:23] Open that page, flip to another tab, and then go back and it hits you [07:23] NCommander: Comparing LP to SF... that's low. [07:23] 6 failed: cacao guile-gnome-platform ksimus mit-scheme myodbc pacemaker [07:23] 1 unaccounted for: gnash [07:23] Sob [07:24] StevenK: Indeed. [07:24] wgrant, I could do worse [07:24] Hm. Where did libkonq4-dev go? [07:24] StevenK: Away with KDE3, maybe? It is KDE, so it can do that. [07:24] libkonq4 is KDE3? [07:24] Blink [07:24] It might be. [07:24] Probably not, though. [07:25] libkonq5-dev exists now... [07:25] Yeah, just trying that [07:27] wgrant, can I just switch it to use gcc-4.2 across the board, or would you perfer if I just made that change on PPC :-) [07:27] Ideally just on PPC, but I can't see it killing much on other archs... [07:28] Is there a handy trick to determine an architecture in the rules? [07:28] Yes [07:28] Let me dig it up [07:28] mplayer already uses it lots. [07:28] Yes, yes there is [07:29] ifeq (lpia,$(shell dpkg-architecture -qDEB_BUILD_ARCH)) [07:29] EXTRA_CONFIGURE_ARGS += --enable-hildon [07:29] endif [07:29] Yes, I am just popping the export under the configure arch setting for altivec. [07:29] * NCommander did the same :-) [07:29] TheMuso, its a race to see who finishes first [07:29] heh. [07:29] * NCommander test builds ;_0 [07:29] its not really. [07:30] NCommander: Don't forget changing debian/control. [07:30] TheMuso, already done [07:30] StevenK, BTW, do you know anyone who cares about Ubuntu SPARC? [07:30] * NCommander notes that all ports are uninstallable from scratch in intrepid [07:32] NCommander: Due to what error? [07:32] StevenK, due to lack of kernel [07:33] StevenK: linux-ports-meta [07:33] no linux-ports-meta package [07:33] The upshot is that no ports can release with intrepid [07:33] It's in NEW, it got nacked [07:33] * NCommander rolls eyes [07:33] (PowerPC has made some progress, but we won't be releasable until jaunty likely) [07:34] The problem is there is no one that I can find who can do the work on getting the kernel into shape for HPPA, IA-64, or SPARC [07:36] (LPIA sidestepped the issue with linux-lpia and linux-lpia-meta) [07:37] * StevenK is well versed on linux-lpia{,-meta} [07:37] NCommander: The difference is that there is actually a team supporting that port. [07:38] Well, maybe we should do linux-powerpc{,-meta} [07:38] That way each port can work without stepping on each others toes so to speak [07:38] No. Three copies of linux in the archive is quite enough. [07:38] Although -rt might still be separate. I forget. [07:38] wgrant: Well there is actually more, but you have a point re the metas at least. [07:38] wgrant: -lpia and -generic are now both 27 [07:39] StevenK, you won't happen to know a closet SPARC developer, would you? [07:39] lol [07:39] I ask more that I'm worried that REVU will have to switch to Debian [07:40] The irony would be overwhelming :-/ [07:43] StevenK, BTW, I got a new toy, an RS/6000 ;-) [07:43] NCommander: Running NT4 server [07:43] You know, I made a joke about it [07:43] oh right [07:43] I fail [07:44] Sorry [07:44] Windows NT for PowerPC hurts my brain [07:44] then don't use it [07:44] I'm not [07:44] Its just the mere proximity ;-) [07:45] Yay, progress: [07:45] 7 failed: cacao gnash guile-gnome-platform ksimus mit-scheme myodbc pacemaker [07:45] NCommander: Didn't you look at cacao? [07:45] why is myodbc failing? [07:45] ../driver/.libs/libmyodbc3_r.so: undefined reference to `mysql_odbc_escape_string' [07:45] StevenK, yeah, thats a FUN FTBFS [07:46] StevenK, the general issue is GCC changes its JNI mappings, the cacao SVN has a fix [07:46] But [07:46] (there is always a but) [07:46] They completely redid the JNI code [07:46] So backporting would be an absolute nightmare [07:46] StevenK: ummm, that appears to be a function provided by libmysqlclient, so where did it go? [07:46] slangasek: Would you like to see the complete build log? [07:47] no, just the linker command line immediately befor eit :) [07:47] gcc -O3 -DDBUG_OFF -I/usr/include/mysql -DBIG_JOINS=1 -fPIC -g -Wall -O2 -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -o .libs/my_basics my_basics.o ../driver/.libs/libmyodbc3_r.so -L/usr/lib -L/usr/lib/mysql /usr/lib/libmysqlclient_r.so -lcrypt -lnsl -lm -lz /usr/lib/libodbcinst.so /usr/lib/libltdl.so -ldl -lpthread -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/lib [07:47] o_o; [07:48] ah. Stupid test suite [07:49] slangasek: Hm? [07:49] my_basics is part of the test suite; I'm blaming the test suite to avoid acknowledging that there's probably a bug elsewhere ;) [07:50] Hehe [07:50] And gnash now installs it's Build-Depends, but promptly fails in ./configure [07:51] Sigh [07:51] sladen, probably the MySQL API changed, and someone didn't bother to update the test suite [07:51] * StevenK points NCommander at slangasek [07:52] s/test suite/package/ [07:52] *sighs* [07:52] Two autocomplete failures [07:52] Damn it [07:53] * NCommander hacks it so that if sladen is in the room, he is ignored and slangasek is selected instead [07:53] poor sladen [07:54] StevenK, anyway, if you want to "fix" cacao, its not a picture [07:54] NCommander: The new version of cacao in Debian builds? [07:54] They packaged the SVN snapshot [07:55] Typical [07:55] StevenK: the fact that myodbc is FTBFS in this way means that the libmysqlclient ABI has silently changed since June, dropping library entry points [07:55] And only uploaded it to experimental [07:55] slangasek: \o/ [07:55] StevenK, yeup [07:55] It's a rather nasty problem [07:55] Since we're dealing with GCC JNI ABI [07:56] It seems you can build it if you use Sun's javac, but I didn't get too far in figuring out how to do that [07:56] slangasek: Could you be convinced to hand wave a cacao in? :-D [07:56] do what then? [07:57] slangasek: Be convinced to sync "cacao | 0.99~rc5-1 | experimental | source, amd64, i386, mips, mipsel, powerpc" [07:57] ewwww [07:58] StevenK: er... why wouldn't you do that yourself? === sladen is now known as vorlon [07:58] Haha [07:58] That's cheating [07:59] slangasek: I can, but I need a FFe and all that jazz for you to approve, don't I? === vorlon is now known as sladen [08:00] And Debian have a newer version of gnash than we do [08:00] StevenK: motu-release; it's in universe [08:01] Aren't you also on that team? :-P [08:01] not by choice ;) [08:01] * StevenK chuckles [08:01] tjaalton: JFYI, running with the older -intel 3a2.4.1-1ubuntu4 for three days now, and didn't have the "suddently turns black" issue; that's with current kernel, current X, and (few) pipe A/B underruns in Xorg.0.log [08:01] slangasek, it could be worse. You could be a member of ubuntu-hppa ;-) [08:02] pitti, how soon do you need libpam-blue by? [08:03] oh wait [08:03] That was persia who asked me to look at that [08:04] right; I was pretty confused :) [08:04] (although I'm watching the progress in the bluez 4 bug) [08:05] Argh [08:05] Bah [08:05] I hate packages that don't have a patch system [08:05] pitti, if there is no patch system, which one do you recommend I add, or should I just inline? [08:06] (I need to inline a bunch of M4 marcos to fix libtool :-/) [08:06] ls [08:06] er [08:11] NCommander: I didn't touch acpi-support for a while, but I could check whether it's ok if I commit some fixes to it [08:12] NCommander: The Debian maintainer is nice but he has been doing all the work, so I'd prefer checking with him before using my commit rights [08:12] or permissions rather [08:12] lool, I resolved the issue without needing to touch it, and since ACPI sleep is seemingly going away for jaunty [08:12] ACPI sleep is going away? [08:12] Thats what someone said [08:13] As in, the kernel will do the sleeping without speaking to ACPI, or no sleep? [08:13] Just pm-utils will be supported [08:13] * wgrant can't see either as being possible. [08:13] NCommander: Oh, you mean acpi-support is going away [08:13] yeah [08:14] Sorry if I wasn't clear [08:15] NCommander: my personal recommendation is "simple-patchsys.mk for cdbs" and "dpatch for normal debhelper", they are the least intrusive ones [08:16] NCommander: however, I wouldn't add one at all if diff.gz already has patches [08:16] * NCommander nods [08:16] Yeah, it does [08:16] * NCommander HATES autotools [08:16] even though they're good [08:16] When they break, they're miserably [08:16] ugh simple-patchsys [08:16] Ugh CDBS [08:16] Ugh quilt [08:17] ugh a gazillion different possibilities for source packages [08:17] I quite like dpatch, though. It doesn't require that I smash my head through my desk to patch something [08:17] pitti: you're right; let's eliminate the one that's most inadequate, simple-patchsys :) [08:17] StevenK, WOOOOOO [08:17] Haha [08:17] Ugh dpkg [08:17] Ugh rpm [08:17] So says Steve "Vendetta" Langasek [08:17] slangasek: /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/patchsys-quilt.mk WFM, too [08:18] however, I found that many people have more troubles with quilt than with cdbs-edit-patch [08:18] quilt is the patch system that forces me to smash my head through my desk to patch something [08:18] quilt is insanely stupidly complicated. [08:19] slangasek: simple-patchsys' popularity is actually quite astonishing, given that it was just meant as an "example"... [08:19] With dpatch and simple-patchsys I just tell it to edit the patch. [08:19] wgrant, its the emacs of patch systems [08:19] wgrant: wait until you see bzr-loom then :) [08:19] bzr-loom? [08:19] quilt refresh \n Launching tactical nukes [08:19] bzr-loom isn't bad. [08:19] * NCommander is reminded of the Lucasarts Game [08:19] wgrant: the stupidity of quilt is mainly "quilt add" IMHO; the general design is quite good [08:20] pitti: But that is infinite stupidity. [08:20] * NCommander hates it when a package maintainer changes something for no clear reason without noting it in the changelog [08:20] wgrant: has bitten me more than once, too [08:21] I don't like the inline change, there is no way to "exit 1" if you screwed something [08:21] seb128: Me either [08:21] and it often let noise in the source after doing the refresh and pop too [08:21] quilt is the only one I finally understood how it is supposed to work :) [08:22] seb128: however, you can actually change/build/test in that mode, which isn't possible wit simple/dpatch [08:22] I usually end up binning the source tree and starting again [08:22] It always leaves something in .pc for me... or am I missing something? [08:22] siretart: you don't understand how cdbs simplepatchsys is working? [08:22] OMG WHY [08:22] WHY [08:22] WHY [08:22] Woo, caco 0.99~rc5 builds [08:22] * pitti reduces NCommander verbosity by 1 [08:22] WHY IS THIS MAINTAINER REGENERATING AUTOTOOLS IF THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO CONFIGURE.IN [08:22] Ack verbise -1 [08:22] seb128: it seems to insist to create a copy of my tree every time I want to create or modify a patch [08:22] **** - new verbose explination [08:22] which is insane for larger trees [08:23] BTW, siretart do you care about Ubuntu SPARC? [08:23] NCommander: spooky is one. so to some degree, yes [08:23] siretart, good, you just became the sparc kernel guy for linux-ports :-) [08:23] siretart: right it does a copy, I don't work on packages large enough for that to be annoying though, gtk or evolution take a couple of seconds to do that [08:24] seb128: I mainly work on my laptop with crypted everything. copying is painful for me [08:24] NCommander: I see. [08:24] NCommander: as first step, I resign :) [08:24] Well, intrepid SPARC is not installable [08:24] If you want to fix that for jaunty, you shouldn't resign [08:25] Less we make spooky run Debian ... [08:25] But that would be wrong :-) [08:28] Ok mplayer successfully built using gcc 4.2. [08:28] \o/ [08:28] pitti: Do you think that's a good call -- uploading a mplayer that uses gcc-4.2 on ppc? [08:29] StevenK: if it ICEs with 4.3, that's an acceptable workaround, yes [08:29] especially since it's not in main [08:29] TheMuso: Upload it! [08:29] argh [08:29] * NCommander wanted credit for that upload [08:29] * NCommander runs [08:30] heh [08:30] NCommander: U looz [08:30] Ok mplayer is in bzr so I'll do things that way. [08:30] Well, I don't have any uploads in multiverse or restricted [08:30] NCommander: http://www.pvponline.com/2008/06/30/interlude-the-adventures-of-lolbat [08:34] StevenK, lolbot [08:34] er [08:34] bat [08:34] # well, rm -f config.log :) [08:34] libpam-blue source: configure-generated-file-in-source config.log [08:34] o_o; [08:34] Why do people think its a good idea to disable lintian warnigns [08:34] *warnings [08:38] * TheMuso ponders how mplayer got uploaded with that maintainer field. I try and dpkg-buildpackage it, and I get the maintainer field warning. [08:38] * NCommander thinks we need to resurrect the ubuntu-powerpc group, and get someone who is active to be an admin [08:38] TheMuso: the previous upload might not have had an ubuntuish DEBEMAIL [08:39] pitti: You're totally correct. [08:39] I'm using themuso@ubuntu.com. [08:39] so then he just got a warning and ignored it [08:39] TheMuso: "update-maintainer" FTW :) [08:39] right [08:39] libtool: compile: x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../libbase -I.. -Wall -g -Werror-implicit-function-declaration -O2 -W -Wall -Wcast-align -Wcast-qual -Wpointer-arith -Wreturn-type -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes -MT libltdlc_la-ltdl.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/libltdlc_la-ltdl.Tpo -c ../../libltdl/ltdl.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/libltdlc_la-ltdl.o [08:39] ../../libltdl/ltdl.c:32:25: error: lt__private.h: No such file or directory [08:39] * StevenK kicks libtool [08:39] pitti: I know, but the maintainer is an Ubuntu team, i.e the MOTU media team, which has an email address pointing to tauware.de. [08:40] TheMuso: oh, ok; workaround: "DEBEMAIL= debuild -S" [08:40] pitti: Right. [08:40] TheMuso: I don't think how we can make the check recognize this case without becoming totally useless [08:40] s/think/see/ [08:41] StevenK, libpam-blue fixed [08:41] \o/ [08:41] THe fix was removing the maintainers insane rules file [08:41]