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ftawell, looks fine to me00:01
asacfta: yeah.00:08
* asac remove --purge libnspr4-0d from chroot00:09
ftajdstrand, what else is needed in the bug?00:13
jdstrandfta: what's the bug number again? (backscroll has got me down...)00:14
ftabug 27643700:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 276437 in seamonkey "security upgrade of seamonkey 1.1.12" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27643700:14
jdstrandlooking...00:15
asaci guess the .diff.gz and .dsc00:15
* asac off doing something else00:17
jdstrandfta: yeah, I'll need the full source. the debdiff looks good (need to look at it more closely)00:18
ftajdstrand, full source is already there00:18
jdstrandfta: once I have the dsc and diff.gz, please just document in the bug your testing00:18
jdstrandfta: I'm sorry, I meant full source package00:19
jdstrandfta: once I have the complete source package, and the testing is documented, I'll upload00:21
ftajdstrand, hm, i've made the intrepid one complete (-sa), and the hardy one as -sd, so intrepid must be uploaded first00:22
ftaunless you prefer the opposite00:22
jdstrandfta: well, I do for complicated reasons dealing with the security buildd...00:23
jdstrandfta: sorry about that00:23
jdstrandfta: currently, we have a different buildd for security00:23
jdstrandfta: and that buildd doesn't have intrepid yet, cause it's not released00:24
ftaso, both could include the orig.tar.gz ?00:24
jdstrandfta: so I need to build hardy in the security buildd, push it to LP, then I should be able to build intrepid00:24
asacjdstrand: intrepid?00:24
asacwhy do you need to care for intrepid at all?00:24
asac;)00:24
jdstrandasac: well, I don't, if you or someone else uploads it00:25
ftai thought i would push to intrepid myself00:25
jdstrandthat's cool-- I'll need -sa for hardy though00:25
asacjdstrand: yeah. fta will upload that00:25
asacppa publishing takes ages today :/00:31
ftayep, often longer than the build00:31
asacin this case unfortunate ... everything  is there except the binary-all packages :)00:32
asacwhich come from i38600:32
asacand are not yet published00:32
ftatake it from the lp +archive page00:32
asacfta: thats the problem ;)00:32
asacfta: as soon as the .deb is there it will be quite soon in the archive index00:32
asacbut its not there yet :(00:32
ftaoh, i thought librarian had it immediately00:33
asaci thought so too. most likely that has changed00:33
asacamd64 bits took 15 minutes to show up after build00:34
asacanyone interested in fixing ifupdown to honour a global nm setting that would make ifupdown stop from auto upping interfaces?00:35
asaci hate that source ;)00:35
asacits one file ... and its written in tex ;)00:35
asaclast time i touched it i thought it was fun ... but now i think that one time is enough for a lifetime :/00:36
asachttp://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/ifupdown.nw ;)00:36
ftai should stop caring about that : http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/karma.png  it's too volatile00:37
asacthats what i am saying ;)00:37
asacbut still nice experiment to keep running ;)00:37
asacmaybe also comparison of bug, bzr and whatever ;)00:38
ftai'd be curious to see yours00:38
asaci'd rather not ... when i do the whole night bug triaging and then see my karma not moving at all i would certainly get depressed :-P00:39
ftai am00:39
asacyeah. simple cure: dont look at it ;)00:40
asacfta: do you have the script?00:40
asaci can add that to my crontab ... or even you can run it on your own i guess :-D00:40
asacso ... anyone has a C snippet to parse keyfile formats? e.g.00:41
asac[group]00:41
asackey1=value00:41
asackey2=value200:41
ftaand do what with it?00:42
asacfta: i need to add a code snippet to http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/ifupdown.nw that parses /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf00:42
asacand stops auto upping interfaces when there is00:43
asac[ifupdown]00:43
asacmanaged=true00:43
asac;)00:43
pwnguinasac: iniparser?00:43
asacpwnguin: yeah. but i guess i cannot use glib :)00:43
pwnguin?00:44
pwnguinoh, gnome probably doesn't have such a thing in their libs00:44
asacpwnguin: libglib has00:44
asacpwnguin: but i cannot use it00:44
pwnguinhttp://ndevilla.free.fr/iniparser/00:44
asacpeople would kill me to pull in libglib dependency on ifupdown00:44
pwnguinheh00:45
ftajdstrand, all the files are in the bug now00:45
asacpwnguin: is that packaged?00:45
pwnguini think people would kill you for changing ifupdown file syntax just the same00:45
asachehe yeah. thats not my plan - i hope00:45
pwnguinin gentoo00:46
asacquite a big thing for this tiny ifupdow tex thing00:47
asacpwnguin: unfortunate that the tarball doesnt have a license info00:48
pwnguinthe bigger challenge is that it's probably not secure00:48
pwnguinasac: the website suggests MIT license00:49
asacpwnguin: yeah websites can tell a lot of things ;)00:49
asactarballs too of course ;)00:49
pwnguinbut the author seems to be alive at least00:50
pwnguinso you could mail him and ask for a better clarification00:50
pwnguinwait00:50
pwnguinwhat's LICENSE00:50
asache?00:51
pwnguinin the tarball00:51
asachehe00:51
asacmy fault i guess00:51
asaci also found libini now ;)00:52
asacpwnguin: why isnt iniparser secure?00:53
pwnguingood question; i was thinking that sort of thing should be fuzzed00:53
pwnguinbut i guess if it's a parser, those are normally built to reject invalid input00:53
asacpwnguin: no00:53
asacpwnguin: its only about a single key in one config file ;)00:54
asacpwnguin: yeah. and that file is only writable by root usually00:54
ftaasac, only a few lines of C are needed for that00:55
pwnguinor perhaps a regex ;)00:56
ftain perl, it's piece of cake00:57
pwnguinin fact, i think ini is fairly regular; just sections and key pairs00:57
asactrue.00:59
asacthere are also comments though00:59
pwnguintouche00:59
asacnot sure how the comment delimiter can be escaped00:59
pwnguini dont think it can00:59
asaci think even if multiline values are possible, we probably dont need this for our use case01:00
pwnguinnew line usually terminates comments01:00
ftaasac, could I push sm to intrepid, or should i wait for someone to confirm the bug ? (motu-something?)01:00
asacpwnguin: no .. i mean if you want a value with a ; in it ;)01:00
asace.g.01:00
asacvalue=my;thing01:00
asacfta: i doubt that anyone will complain ;) ... but you never know :-P01:01
pwnguinwell, you've got the source code to a couple implementations ;)01:01
asacpwnguin: yeah01:01
asacI'll take the MIT one i think ;)01:02
asacat least its pure C01:02
ftaasac, so?01:02
asacfta: upload :)01:04
asacfta: it will be stuck in upload queue until beta is released (or in case a release manager clears the queue)01:05
asacbut thats ok01:05
asacin case RMs dont have time it will automatically go in after beta01:05
ftaok01:06
asacyou can probably also kindly ask RMs after 24 hours or so01:06
ftaBug 24682001:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 246820 in prism "Google Gears does not install on Prism" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24682001:29
fta[ubuntu/intrepid] seamonkey 1.1.12+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (Waiting for approval)01:31
fta2http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18102344/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-hppa.seamonkey_1.1.12%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz10:57
asacfta2: only hppa?11:17
asacthats fine then11:17
asacmost likely imagemagick didnt built or is outdated11:17
asacyou could retry in 24 hours (e.g. use launchpad "retry" button)11:17
Kamping_Kaiserhi all11:34
asachi Kamping_Kaiser11:34
Kamping_Kaiserasac, evening11:35
armin76asac: thats okay? die :P11:56
asacwhy do you have that much sympathy for hppa?12:03
Kamping_Kaiserhppa? isnt that just an alpha wannabe?12:06
armin76i have sympathy for all arches :P12:06
fta2asac, yep, only hppa12:28
fta2asac, how come ff/tb are not listed in the CVE pages on lp ?12:29
fta2asac, eg: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/cve/2008-406012:29
fta2asac, you said you fixed ff3.0 yesterday, is it in yet?12:35
fta2doesn't seems to be12:35
fta2-s12:36
asacfta2: huh?12:53
asacfta2: firefox and thunderbird usually dominate the USN page ;)12:53
asacfta2: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn12:53
fta2maybe but lp tracks CVEs and ff/tb are not listed, that's too bad12:54
asacfta2: not sure if the security team uses that feature seriously12:54
asacjdstrand: ^^ ?12:54
fta2Bug 15474912:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 154749 in seamonkey "seamonkey installer bin will not oper in ubuntu desktop ver 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15474912:58
fta2doesn't seem to be the ubuntu package13:01
fta2asac, where is your fix from yesterday? the ff-3.0 missing symlink13:11
asacfta2: isnt that in .head?13:12
asac*sigh*13:13
asacwill do that after lunch13:13
asacfta2: feel free to fix it13:13
asacif you cant wait ;)13:13
asacor wait a sec ;)13:14
fta2i wanted to do it yesterday, you said in #u-desktop that you already did it13:14
asaci know what i said13:15
asacits on my laptop ;) ... which is in my bag13:15
fta2should i wait? or what?13:20
asacfta2: no ... go ahead ... its such a minimal change that i dont feel any loss :)13:21
fta2did you do something smart for the 3.1 merge?13:26
fta2or just a symlink13:26
asacfta2: 3.1 merge?13:29
asacfta2: we have the _VER variable. i used that13:29
asaci think i added13:30
fta2nm, i'll manage13:31
asack13:32
asacfta2: can you fix that in .head pleaes?13:32
fta2sure13:33
asac3.0.head i mean13:33
asacin theory there should be no difference in the code13:33
asacwe have the _META ifdef for that13:33
gnomefreakwasnt 3.0.3 released a while ago? i just got email about release email date was 9/26/08 i thought we had it a while before than13:39
asacgnomefreak: we released a bit early yeah.13:43
asac(wasnt that a great idea ;))13:43
gnomefreaki liked it ;)13:43
jdstrandfta, asac: the CVE database in LP leaves a lot to be desired-- it is in no way surprising that ff and tb aren't listed13:44
jdstrandbasically, LP imports the CVEs13:44
jdstrandthen you either have to file a bug, then 'Link to CVE' in the bug13:44
jdstrandif a comment has CVE-XXXX-YYYY in it, then LP will do the 'Link to CVE' step for you13:45
jdstrand(regardless of if you want it to or not)13:45
asacjdstrand: ok ... so a CVE: XXXX-xxx changelog parsing feature is missing ;)13:46
fta2no, it worked for sm13:46
jdstrandasac: I think it'll see it when things are Fix Released and posted in the bug13:46
jdstrand(cause it shows up as a comment)13:47
asacjames_w: do we have hardy backport packages for current bzr and bzr-builddeb?13:47
fta2just plain CVE-XXXX-YYYY, not CVE-XXXX-YYYY..ZZZZ13:47
jdstrandfta: correct13:47
james_wasac: no, not yet13:47
asacjames_w: my auto builder doesnt like the --result-dir option hardy chroot :(13:47
james_wasac: I'll bump it up my todo list13:48
jdstrandreally, the usefulness of the CVE functionality is that *if* a CVE happens to be linked to the bug, you can click and get to the CVE description13:48
jdstrandwe don't try to keep it in sync cause the API just isn't there yet. we use our own ubuntu-cve-tracker13:49
asacthanks for clarifying13:49
jdstrandnp13:49
asacjames_w: latest builddeb wont work with hardy bzr?13:49
asacjames_w: or could i just checkout builddeb in .bazaar/plugins or something?13:50
james_wasac: what's the error?13:50
james_wor is it the depends?13:50
asacjames_w: i havent tried ... i only saw that --result-dir isnt known13:50
asacin default hardy13:50
james_wthat's nothing to do with the bzr version, the name of the option just changed13:51
james_wat your request I believe13:51
james_w--result will work in both13:51
fta2--result doesn't work for me, i want the results in build-area as before, not above, but i get raise Error, "`%s` and `%s` are the same file" % (src, dst)13:54
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asacjames_w: result works?14:08
asachmm14:08
james_wfta2: please upgrade to 2.0.114:08
asacok giving that a spin14:09
asaclets see ;)14:09
gnomefreak2.0.1 is in intrepid unless he missed updates he should be running it14:10
fta2i'm using 2.0.114:14
james_wfta: file a bug with the backtrace then please14:16
james_wif there isn't a backtrace then add -Derror to the command line and run it again14:16
asacfta2: we also need a versioned simlink from _NAME_OTHER14:28
asacfta2: abrowser-3.0 wont work now i think14:28
fta2james_w, that's what i get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/52846/14:29
fta2asac, i wanted to ask you if i can move all the abrowser stuff to the abrowser branding deb14:30
asacfta2: i think the links are fine in the -common package (which currently i firefox-3.0)14:31
asacfta2: in that way things that use the abrowser commands will still work with firefox and vv.14:31
fta2well, in /usr/bin, i don't like to add stuff that are not needed, like /usr/bin/abrowser* for people using plain ff314:32
asacfta2: its a matter of compatibility. those scripts dont hurt14:33
asacfta2: same argument would be true for abrowser. whipping firefox links everywhere but abrowser links not will make "abrowser" more a second class citizen then it already is14:34
asacfta2: imo we should review how the branding split is packaged for jaunty14:38
fta2it's now clean for the desktop file, and for icons. i just don't like all those links in usr/bin and usr/lib14:41
fta2i don't expect that many users to switch to abrowser anyway, so 2nd class citizen is more than probable.14:42
asacfta2: well. its a political thing14:42
asacboth need to be similar and all those links dont really hurt14:42
asacthey only serve for compatibility14:42
asacusers will only see the .desktop files14:42
fta2http://paste.ubuntu.com/52853/14:47
fta2no idea how representative it is14:48
asacfta2: its not ... ffox is installed by default ;)14:49
thunderstruck2nd class my ass i use it and like it ;)14:49
asacbut as i said. its not a matter of popularity.14:49
asacthe bidirectional links need to be in the -common package14:50
thunderstruckasac: and you are right abrowser-3.0 doesnt work14:50
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fta2we have 125 times more people using the ff branding just in intrepid14:51
gnomefreak??14:52
asacthat doesnt change the fact that both packages should be 100% equivalent14:52
asacthats only achieved if abrowser links exist everywhere14:52
* gnomefreak has no way of finding that percentage out14:52
gnomefreakawesome-browser??14:53
gnomefreakis that abrowser?14:53
fta26941  firefox-3.0-branding            4263  1255     0  3006     2 (Unknown)14:53
fta233650 abrowser-3.0-branding             34     9     0    25     0 (Unknown)14:53
fta24263/3414:53
fta2~12514:53
gnomefreakwhere did you find that?14:53
fta2popcon14:53
gnomefreakoh14:54
asacok ... lunch and then coding NM14:54
gnomefreakfta2: abrowser still gives you firefox-3.014:54
fta226018 firefox-3.1-branding             118    36     0    82     0 (Unknown)14:54
fta244115 abrowser-3.1-branding              7     1     0     6     0 (Unknown)14:54
fta222665 firefox-3.1                      197    32    45   120     0 (Unknown)14:54
gnomefreakasac: care to tell the people on bug 87101 to back off. we fix it one way it pisses others off, cant win them all15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 87101 in thunderbird "when opening an attachment, it should be written to tmp as a read-only file" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8710115:10
thunderstruckthis is starting to piss me off15:17
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james_wfta2: thanks, should be fixed in the next upload15:17
gnomefreak!info libflashsupport intrepid15:29
ubottulibflashsupport (source: libflashsupport): Support library for sound output of Flash 9+ with PulseAudio. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.9-0ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB15:29
gnomefreakasac: do you plan pon removing libflashsupport from archives anymore?15:29
gnomefreaks/pon/on15:31
asacgnomefreak: i am waiting for feedback from ltsp on whether they still need that15:33
gnomefreakk15:34
gnomefreakpeople are making frigging wiki pages on how to fix the issue and i have strong feeling we are gonna get comments that that isnt the fix (because people dont know any better15:34
gnomefreak)*15:35
gnomefreakasac: i told guy on bug 255297 i would ping you15:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 255297 in xulrunner-1.9 "please include debian patch to enable old certificates UI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25529715:38
gnomefreak!info flashplugin-nonfree hardy-backports15:41
ubottuflashplugin-nonfree (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10.0.1.218+10.0.0.525ubuntu1~hardy1+really9.0.124.0ubuntu2 (hardy-backports), package size 18 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)15:41
asacgnomefreak: when?15:41
asacgnomefreak: i mean i am always in chpe's epiphany channel ;)15:42
asache could easily ping me there :)15:42
gnomefreaki dont really know him but i said it on bug. my mail might have not gotten there yet15:42
asacah ok15:43
thunderstruckasac: did you get my last post about tbird notification?15:55
asachuh?15:56
asaci dont think so15:56
asacat least not here15:56
thunders1ruckfuck this16:01
thunders1ruckasac: in case you missed it16:02
thunders1ruck.:10:50:35:. <      gnomefreak > do we have notification for tbird restart  after update? if not we should really think  about this16:02
asacthunders1ruck: yeah we dont have it yet16:04
thunders1ruckk16:05
asacbut makes sense i agree16:05
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thunderstruckasac: do we have master bug on the the exec: 118: /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.3/..... people are trying it with all different browser links. like sendible-browser16:26
thunderstruckx-www-browser gets a different error16:27
asacthunderstruck: thanks16:38
asacthunderstruck:  we should make a bug out of that16:38
thunderstrucki opened the one i filed and marked all as dup and explained in bug what links fail16:42
thunderstruckasac: bug 27390716:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 273907 in firefox-3.0 "abrowser does not start: :$pkglibdir/abrowser link missing" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27390716:42
thunderstruckupdated description16:43
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gnomefreakok i really have to work on connection now. its getting old fast16:44
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asacjcastro: did you reping blizzard?17:05
jcastroasac: not yet, I will do so today17:06
jcastrosorry I've been running around like a chicken with my head cut off.17:06
asacjcastro: too points. ask him if he thinks that anyone would come. most likely those will come during UDS and not fosscamp (as its business day for them), right?17:08
asacjcastro: i am trying to sort out if i need to be at fosscamp :)17:08
[reed]asac: get mconnor to come? :)17:11
asac[reed]: i asked him and he said he planned to be in MV around that time and would then consider to come17:19
[reed]cool17:20
bfillerasac: where can I find a version of firefox-3.0 with debug symbols?18:02
asacbfiller: you can find debug symbols18:03
asacbfiller: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs#Crashes18:03
asacadapt apt lines for intrepid accordingly18:03
bfillerasac: thanks18:03
asacbfiller: if you need a real debug build you need to build on your own18:05
asac(e.g. with debug output and without optimization)18:05
asacso now i became a ~ubuntu-mir team member :/18:12
asacjames_w: http://paste.ubuntu.com/52925/18:56
asacjames_w: thats the error i referred to the other day18:56
asacbuilding -sa complains about binary changes missing sometimes18:57
ftaasac, i tried to make head or tail from the gnash package, it's really awful20:27
ftaasac, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93523120:52
asacfta: he?21:12
asaci updated gnash.ubuntu.head today21:12
asacshould work21:12
ftanm, it was a few days ago, i gave up and updated nf-flash instead :(21:13
ftamozilla bug Bug 36842821:58
ubottuError: Launchpad bug 368428 could not be found21:58
ftamozilla bug 36842821:58
ubottuMozilla bug 368428 in Networking: JAR "XUL FastLoad cache corruption when application running while upgrading" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36842821:58
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