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LjL!test00:03
ubottusigh... again? I'm busy here, I already told you it failed.00:03
LjL!info festival00:03
ubottufestival (source: festival): General multi-lingual speech synthesis system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.96~beta-7ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 895 kB, installed size 2656 kB00:03
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, aubade said: !love is !kirby04:47
Flannelubot5`: greetings program!07:55
MyrttiGood morning my lovely fellow Ubuntu ops.08:20
MyrttiI love you all, you are wonderful bunch.08:20
Tm_Tbrunch08:23
Tm_TI hate myself but that's another story08:23
FlannelBrunch is good too.08:24
bazhang@login10:52
ubottuError: You are not identified10:52
eagles0513875hey guys i know probably half of you are probably sleeping. i was banned a while back from motu channel and now would like to get into pkgs things for ubunt10:52
eagles0513875bazhang: i am in kubuntu channel10:52
eagles0513875*ubuntu10:52
bazhang@btlogin10:53
eagles0513875bazhang: oh10:53
bazhangeagles0513875, you need to talk to whoever banned you from there10:53
eagles0513875bazhang: i dont remember who10:53
thsonlehello everyone10:53
eagles0513875its been ages10:54
bazhangeagles0513875, trying to check now10:54
eagles0513875bazhang: ok10:54
bazhangbrb10:54
eagles0513875wb10:55
bazhang@login10:55
ubottuThe operation succeeded.10:55
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bazhangeagles0513875, are you using tor?10:57
eagles0513875?10:57
eagles0513875what do you mean10:57
bazhangeagles0513875, the bantracker is not very helpful here; seems you are banned in -bugs, -motu, and -devel; any idea why?10:59
eagles0513875bazhang: im in dev right now10:59
eagles0513875im just band in motu10:59
bazhangthat is odd10:59
bazhangeagles0513875, did this happen around the time of a netsplit?10:59
eagles0513875bazhang: possibly11:00
eagles0513875actually i think it was during the time when the net splits were occuring11:00
bazhangeagles0513875, I have no admin access in those channels; will let those who do know when they are around (most folks asleep now)11:00
eagles0513875bazhang: thanks. i just built a beastly machine and would love to put it to good use pkgs stuff even really big things that would take a while to pkg11:01
eagles0513875question how does one become an op11:01
Myrttiyou prove you're worthy11:01
bazhangeagles0513875, if you can come back in a few hours, it should be sorted by then11:02
eagles0513875bazhang: thanks11:02
bazhangunless Myrtti has access there11:02
MyrttiI don't11:02
bazhangaha11:02
eagles0513875Myrtti: i am worthy lol always pointing people to right language rooms reminding people bout language11:02
bazhangthe netsplit left me unvoiced here11:02
Myrttieagles0513875: it's not only that11:03
eagles0513875what else does it entail11:03
eagles0513875bazhang: what on earth is a netsplit11:03
Myrttiyou need to show you know the common netiquette, can communicate with people, are trustworthy, have abilities to negotiate with different people...11:03
Myrtti!netsplit11:04
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit11:04
bazhangeagles0513875, how about coming back in a while11:04
eagles0513875bazhang: ok11:04
bazhangty11:04
MyrttiMOAR COFFEE?!11:05
bazhanghaha11:06
eagles0513875lol ill be back in a lil while guys11:06
Myrttihttp://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/2903627155/ <-- WIN.11:09
Myrttiquite comfy too11:09
bazhangfunny tags11:09
bazhangpink braids emacs11:10
Myrttithat is pink11:10
MyrttiI've got braids11:10
Myrttithat t-shirt has emacs cheatsheet on it11:10
Myrttiappropriate tags, you see11:10
bazhangjust the combo is nice11:10
bazhangfavro, how may we assist you11:14
favroI sent someone here with an issue - just checking I had the address right11:15
favroleaving now11:15
bazhangfavro, would seem so.11:15
bazhangoops11:15
Hobbsee@btlogin12:49
Hobbseeargh.12:54
HobbseeDatabaseError: attempt to write a readonly database12:55
Hobbsee      args = ('attempt to write a readonly database',) 12:55
Hobbseejussi01: ?12:55
stdintry again12:55
Hobbsee  /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/sqlite/main.py in execute(self=<sqlite.main.Cursor instance>, SQL='INSERT INTO comments (ban_id, who, comment, time) VALUES (%s, %s, %s, %s)', *parms=("'5006'", "'Hobbsee'", "'<reason here>'", "'cdatetime\ndatetime\np1\n(S''\\x07\\xd8\\n\\x01\\x0b62\\x08{\\x0e''\ncpytz\n_UTC\np2\n(tRp3\ntRp4\n.'"))12:55
Hobbsee@btlogin12:56
Hobbseestdin: same problem.12:56
stdinwell, it's really fixed now :p12:57
Hobbseestdin: ah, that's fixed it.  thanks.12:58
stdinsilly unix permissions...12:59
Hobbseehehe12:59
* Hobbsee notes that #edubuntu still holds a ban for She Who Cannot Be Named, too.12:59
HobbseeBT is edited, for eagles0513875.13:01
elkyHobbsee, well, if the edubuntu people deem her worth keeping out, then i'm not going to argue ;)13:03
Hobbseeelky: heh.  I've no idea if they even know, and such.13:04
Hobbsee:)13:04
elkyHobbsee, nor am i going to clamour to inform them.13:04
Hobbseeelky: neither, come to think of it :)13:04
Hobbseebazhang: the #kubuntu-devel ban got removed, FYI.13:05
Hobbseebazhang: how long that will stay, i've no idea.13:05
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eagles0513875hey Hobbsee13:21
eagles0513875Hobbsee: i still cant get into motu channel13:22
Hobbseeeagles0513875: hi.  Yes, that's deliberate.13:22
eagles0513875Hobbsee: i would really like to help with pking of new programs for the ubuntu line13:23
Hobbseeeagles0513875: are you going to be more productive than you usually are?13:23
eagles0513875yes13:23
eagles0513875not to mention my lecture time table doesnt allow for me to mess around that much have lots of reading as well as math to get in my head13:23
eagles0513875darn 1's and 0's after 2 days of lectures13:24
eagles0513875Hobbsee: i just built a beast of a machine that would really help in regards to packaging large programs13:24
Hobbseeeagles0513875: the machine is only as good as the person behind it.13:24
eagles0513875Hobbsee: true i dont remember what the ban was over but i have changed alot since that occured.13:25
Hobbseeeagles0513875: how have you changed?13:25
eagles0513875firstly even though right now u see me in the dev channel im not in there talking bout stuff not related to development of the distro 13:26
eagles0513875not to mention im not in there saying anything a majority of the time13:26
eagles0513875im more mature then when i first started13:26
eagles0513875i love kubuntu and i cannot use any other distro im doing my lpi certification and i cant even get myself to use a centos vm to try stuff out on13:27
eagles0513875i want to give back to the community what they have given me13:27
eagles0513875Hobbsee: its up to you if you want to give me another chance or not13:29
Hobbseeeagles0513875: for the moment, i've changed the bans to quiet, so you'll be able to be in the channels, but not talk.  Hopefully that will allow you to learn somewhat.  At this point in the release, I'm choosing not to take the chance of you disrupting development yet again.13:29
HobbseeAfter the release, this may be reevaluated.13:30
eagles0513875Hobbsee: can i work on pkging stuff for hardy since its lts13:30
Hobbsees/quiet/quits/13:30
Hobbsee!sru | eagles0513875 13:30
ubottueagles0513875: Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates13:30
* eagles0513875 slaps self13:30
eagles0513875Hobbsee: tyvm13:31
Hobbseeeagles0513875: also, please note that you will need to actually read documentation, if you wish to succeed in this.  13:31
eagles0513875Hobbsee: thats what im going ot do go into kubuntu channel and read the motu link13:31
Hobbseegood luck!13:31
eagles0513875thanks13:31
eagles0513875Hobbsee: might also get myself back into bug fixing13:31
* Hobbsee wonders if eagles0513875 ever contributed a useful fix...hence the query about back?13:32
stdineagles0513875: it doesn't matter how powerful your build system is, you need skill and teamwork to develop packages. and packages will untimely be built on the LP build farm13:32
Hobbseestdin: he can use his machines for test builds, though, which is a Good Thing, and Highly Encouraged.13:32
stdinyou need to be willing to listen, learn and admit when someone knows better than you13:32
eagles0513875right now Hobbsee im not sure if im going ot get my business going and buy a domain or setup a vm for testing not sure yet where im going with my business idea13:33
stdinlike the almighty Hobbsee, keeper of the pointy-stick-O-doom! ;13:33
* eagles0513875 thinks that sounds rather painful13:33
Hobbseeeagles0513875: good luck!13:33
Hobbseeindeed, it is.13:33
* Hobbsee waves the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!™ around13:33
* eagles0513875 thinks i know where it was after getting banned from motu13:34
Hobbsee@btlogin13:34
eagles0513875O_o13:36
Hobbseejust adding comments.13:36
eagles0513875ok thought i got in trouble for the last emote13:37
Hobbseeno13:37
eagles0513875Hobbsee: can i ask you a question13:43
Hobbseeeagles0513875: haven't you just asked one?13:43
eagles0513875Hobbsee: yes but im asking because you could be in the middle of something very important13:44
Hobbseeeagles0513875: ask away.13:44
eagles0513875Hobbsee: i would like to become an op for the kubuntu channel13:44
stdinthe answer is a default "no"13:45
Hobbseeeagles0513875: "no".13:45
elkyeagles0513875, that's a good joke. very funny.13:45
eagles0513875k13:45
eagles0513875elky: im being serious13:45
stdinwe choose new ops if and when we feel it necessary13:46
eagles0513875ok13:46
PiciWhen operators are needed, we will pick from active people in the relevant channel who are knowledgable, courteous, and fit a few other operator guidelines.13:46
elkyand usually with an unblemished record.13:46
eagles0513875:( ok 13:46
elkyeagles0513875, if you have no further business here, i direct you to our /topic13:51
eagles0513875im outa here was ideling in here earlier to get this issue resolved 13:51
eagles0513875Hobbsee: appreciate your help and i shall now vacate the channel13:52
Hobbseecool, cya!13:52
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ikoniawhat a surpise he was also in club ubuntu14:13
wgrantAll the cool people are.14:16
jdongI learned a new trick over the weekend for getting apple store employees to leave me alone while browsing :)14:19
jdong"Can I help you find something?" "Yes, I'd like to quiz you on a few simple questions regarding the iTunes Store DRM..."14:19
jdongconsidering it's the Cambridge, MA store I think all the employees have been thoroughly traumatized :)14:19
wgrantHeh.14:20
Hobbseeikonia: who, eagles?14:20
Hobbseeikonia: he doesn't seem the type to get up to terribly much devious trouble, tbh.14:21
Hobbseeikonia: i doubt he realises what the room stands for, and such.14:21
* wgrant is both devious and troubling.14:21
* ikonia is really dissapointed with the ammount of crap on brainstorm14:29
* elky is not really surprised.14:33
ikonia"promote ubuntu at the 2012 world cup"14:34
* jussi01 either, you get a cross section of people, you are bound to get a good amount of crap14:34
ikoniaI just wonder if it's sometimes worth opening this stuff tot he public as the ammount of junk I had to wade through to find worthwhile ideas14:34
ikonia"canonical make pledge towards helping open source projects"14:35
ikoniait's just insulting14:35
elkywelcome to mainstream consciousness14:35
ikoniaI think the brain storm idea is a rally good one, just the volume of time wasting crap is untrue14:35
* ikonia returns to the matrix14:35
ikoniaI don't want to be in the real worl14:36
ikoniaworld14:36
elkyi echo that daily14:38
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LjLAloneInTheDark was on the same IP as SONICWANDERER, apparently a NAT16:41
LjLshall i redirect here instead of banning?16:42
jdongtoo bad we can't bug IRC like what the forums do :D16:42
LjLthey evidently knew each other16:42
LjLand while their IP is .pl, they spoke swedish to each other16:42
=== thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak
* jussi01 is really happy :)17:28
Tm_Twhy so, son?17:33
jussi01Got contact lenses today, now I can see!! :D17:41
Tm_Taah17:42
Tm_Tgood (:17:42
negge^could you please kick the user "negge" out, I forgot to close down irssi when I went home from work and now I can't auth with nickserv 'cause my nick's taken...18:20
LjLnegge^, that cannot be done by us18:21
LjL!ghost | negge^18:21
ubottunegge^: On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>18:21
negge^LjL: alright, thanks for the hint18:22
negge^LjL: alright so "negge" is now ghosted, how do I auth? I can't change nickname 'cause it's already in use18:23
LjLnegge^: that's because your irssi logged in again, you need to be faster than it18:24
LjLnegge^: ghost, and then change nick immediately18:24
negge^LjL: hehe okay I'll try18:24
=== negge^ is now known as negge
neggeLjL: thanks for the help, looks like I beat irssi this time18:25
AthlonFanboywhy am i banned from ubuntu+1?18:28
Seeker`@btlogin18:28
Seeker`@login18:29
ubottuThe operation succeeded.18:29
PiciAthlonFanboy: Let us check, one moment.18:29
Seeker`@btlogin18:29
Seeker`AthlonFanboy: Looks like general troll-like behaviour18:30
AthlonFanboywhen?18:31
Seeker`26th June 200818:31
Seeker`2038 UTC18:31
AthlonFanboyOk 18:32
AthlonFanboydoes the ban ever get lifted?18:33
PiciAthlonFanboy: Do you happen to remember getting banned?18:33
LjLAthlonFanboy, considering you also got a ban on #ubuntuforums for similar reasons later in August18:33
LjLi don't believe that sort of behavior is likely to stop18:33
AthlonFanboyOk w/e August was a rough month for me18:34
LjLso was June apparently18:34
AthlonFanboyWhat would happen if my ip address changes? It seems to change every year for me18:35
PiciWe take ban evasion seriously.18:35
AthlonFanboyWell i cant help dynamic IPs18:35
LjLthen don't join if you know you're banned18:36
Seeker`AthlonFanboy: I think the point is dont try to join channels you know you are banned from until you have been told you can18:36
AthlonFanboyok 18:36
AthlonFanboylast thing18:36
AthlonFanboyDo they remove bans after a while?18:36
PiciDepends.18:36
AthlonFanboyfor something i did.18:37
Seeker`Typically it is up to the person that set the ban18:37
AthlonFanboywho set those bans?18:37
Seeker`Ompaul set the one in #ubuntu+118:38
Seeker`although there is an interesting statement from nalioth in the log18:38
Seeker`2008-06-26T23:37:36 <nalioth> klined18:39
AthlonFanboywats klined?18:39
LjLnot a good thing18:40
AthlonFanboywhatever'18:45
Seeker`it means you were banned from the network18:45
naliothi did not name any names.  it could have been anyone18:48
LjLof course18:48
naliothmost likely a script kiddy in #ubuntu 18:48
Seeker`nalioth: I merely said it was an interesting statement18:49
naliothcoincidences are interesting :)18:50
LjLAthlonFanboy: can you vacate this channel if you have no further questions please?18:52
naliothAthlonFanboy: /topic18:52
AthlonFanboywhat18:52
AthlonFanboyok bye18:52
LjLany comments in PM please18:53
LjLcheck bt if curious.19:02
Myrtti@login19:33
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MyrttiI kids.19:35
MyrttiHi, even19:35
PiciI Myrtti 19:35
pleia2no, you Pici 19:36
Picipleia2: Oh, right. I forgot.19:36
ompaulPici, who is this I you are speaking of - first it is Myrtti then it is forgot!19:36
ompaulPici, unless the truth is that I is a range of values bounded by both Myrtti forgot19:38
Piciompaul: I'm also confused.19:38
ompaulPici, and given that I is, is bad grammar, perhaps I would be better to say, I am, Myrtti forgot19:38
ompaulPici, I'm also, so 19:39
ompaulwe now can say 19:39
ompaulMyrtti also forgot19:39
ompaulnow this is a bad thing, so could you remind her?19:39
* ompaul is wishing someone did not start this19:40
Tm_Tbah20:29
Myrttiexactly20:30
Seeker`hab20:38
PriceChildnot quite20:57
ompaul?21:06
PriceChildway off21:07
ompaulPriceChild, you have no context21:07
ompaulhttp://www.latinsud.com/answer/21:19
ompaulheh21:19
LjLompaul: you look good in that photo, the greenish tint is soft the right amount21:27
ompaulLjL, why thank you 21:45
ompaulthat looks bad :-(21:45
ompaulso ehh 21:45
ompaulLjL, why thank you sir, glad you liked it!21:45
LjLpeople can't take a compliment.21:45
ompaulLjL, I was trying very hard to :)21:58
LjLjesus christ, isn't help in the form of "let's look for a keyword, any keyword in your error message and give you a bot factoid for it assuming it even exist" extremely annoying23:08
Pici!help | LjL 23:09
ubottuLjL: Hi! I'm #ubuntu-ops's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots23:09
* Pici runs23:09
LjLseriously, is there any little trick to mark an NTFS volume not dirty23:10
LjLor for that matter, to even fsck it23:10
PiciLjL: I think ntfsfix in the ntfsprogs package can do that.23:10
LjLPici: ah yeah, i noticed that one, but the description in apt says " Fix common filesystem errors *and force Windows to check NTFS*"... so it sounded like the exact contrary (i.e. *mark* it as dirty)23:11
PiciLjL: It could be not what you want, but I'd at least start with it23:11
Pici"You may run ntfsfix on an NTFS volume if you think it was damaged by Windows or some other way and it cannot be mounted."23:12
LjLlet's tell him23:12
LjLPici: that seemed to make it mount, but also show up as empty :<23:20
LjLenvy made it into universe? when's automatix's turn?23:34
naliothwait, what?23:35
LjL!envy23:35
ubottuenvyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) we suggest you use envyng if every other (official/supported) method fails! it can have various results from works, to fails!!!  if you want the very latest drivers from the manufacturer you use them at your own risk23:35
* nalioth checks his calendar for the end of days23:35
LjLi hope whoever put it into universe knew what he or she was doing23:37
naliothone would hope the MOTU haven't all gone been hitting the same pipe23:38
Picienvyng has been there since Hardy was released... where were you two?23:43
LjLPici: is that a trick question?23:44
PiciLjL: I'm actually not sure.23:45
LjLPici: i do have the list of new packages on RSS, but i never do check RSS.23:45

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