[00:03] <LjL> !test
[00:03] <LjL> !info festival
[07:55] <Flannel> ubot5`: greetings program!
[08:20] <Myrtti> Good morning my lovely fellow Ubuntu ops.
[08:20] <Myrtti> I love you all, you are wonderful bunch.
[08:23] <Tm_T> brunch
[08:23] <Tm_T> I hate myself but that's another story
[08:24] <Flannel> Brunch is good too.
[10:52] <bazhang> @login
[10:52] <eagles0513875> hey guys i know probably half of you are probably sleeping. i was banned a while back from motu channel and now would like to get into pkgs things for ubunt
[10:52] <eagles0513875> bazhang: i am in kubuntu channel
[10:52] <eagles0513875> *ubuntu
[10:53] <bazhang> @btlogin
[10:53] <eagles0513875> bazhang: oh
[10:53] <bazhang> eagles0513875, you need to talk to whoever banned you from there
[10:53] <eagles0513875> bazhang: i dont remember who
[10:53] <thsonle> hello everyone
[10:54] <eagles0513875> its been ages
[10:54] <bazhang> eagles0513875, trying to check now
[10:54] <eagles0513875> bazhang: ok
[10:54] <bazhang> brb
[10:55] <eagles0513875> wb
[10:55] <bazhang> @login
[10:55] <bazhang> @btlogin
[10:57] <bazhang> eagles0513875, are you using tor?
[10:57] <eagles0513875> ?
[10:57] <eagles0513875> what do you mean
[10:59] <bazhang> eagles0513875, the bantracker is not very helpful here; seems you are banned in -bugs, -motu, and -devel; any idea why?
[10:59] <eagles0513875> bazhang: im in dev right now
[10:59] <eagles0513875> im just band in motu
[10:59] <bazhang> that is odd
[10:59] <bazhang> eagles0513875, did this happen around the time of a netsplit?
[11:00] <eagles0513875> bazhang: possibly
[11:00] <eagles0513875> actually i think it was during the time when the net splits were occuring
[11:00] <bazhang> eagles0513875, I have no admin access in those channels; will let those who do know when they are around (most folks asleep now)
[11:01] <eagles0513875> bazhang: thanks. i just built a beastly machine and would love to put it to good use pkgs stuff even really big things that would take a while to pkg
[11:01] <eagles0513875> question how does one become an op
[11:01] <Myrtti> you prove you're worthy
[11:02] <bazhang> eagles0513875, if you can come back in a few hours, it should be sorted by then
[11:02] <eagles0513875> bazhang: thanks
[11:02] <bazhang> unless Myrtti has access there
[11:02] <Myrtti> I don't
[11:02] <bazhang> aha
[11:02] <eagles0513875> Myrtti: i am worthy lol always pointing people to right language rooms reminding people bout language
[11:02] <bazhang> the netsplit left me unvoiced here
[11:03] <Myrtti> eagles0513875: it's not only that
[11:03] <eagles0513875> what else does it entail
[11:03] <eagles0513875> bazhang: what on earth is a netsplit
[11:03] <Myrtti> you need to show you know the common netiquette, can communicate with people, are trustworthy, have abilities to negotiate with different people...
[11:04] <Myrtti> !netsplit
[11:04] <bazhang> eagles0513875, how about coming back in a while
[11:04] <eagles0513875> bazhang: ok
[11:04] <bazhang> ty
[11:05] <Myrtti> MOAR COFFEE?!
[11:06] <bazhang> haha
[11:06] <eagles0513875> lol ill be back in a lil while guys
[11:09] <Myrtti> http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/2903627155/ <-- WIN.
[11:09] <Myrtti> quite comfy too
[11:09] <bazhang> funny tags
[11:10] <bazhang> pink braids emacs
[11:10] <Myrtti> that is pink
[11:10] <Myrtti> I've got braids
[11:10] <Myrtti> that t-shirt has emacs cheatsheet on it
[11:10] <Myrtti> appropriate tags, you see
[11:10] <bazhang> just the combo is nice
[11:14] <bazhang> favro, how may we assist you
[11:15] <favro> I sent someone here with an issue - just checking I had the address right
[11:15] <favro> leaving now
[11:15] <bazhang> favro, would seem so.
[11:15] <bazhang> oops
[12:49] <Hobbsee> @btlogin
[12:54] <Hobbsee> argh.
[12:55] <Hobbsee> DatabaseError: attempt to write a readonly database
[12:55] <Hobbsee>       args = ('attempt to write a readonly database',) 
[12:55] <Hobbsee> jussi01: ?
[12:55] <stdin> try again
[12:55] <Hobbsee>   /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/sqlite/main.py in execute(self=<sqlite.main.Cursor instance>, SQL='INSERT INTO comments (ban_id, who, comment, time) VALUES (%s, %s, %s, %s)', *parms=("'5006'", "'Hobbsee'", "'<reason here>'", "'cdatetime\ndatetime\np1\n(S''\\x07\\xd8\\n\\x01\\x0b62\\x08{\\x0e''\ncpytz\n_UTC\np2\n(tRp3\ntRp4\n.'"))
[12:56] <Hobbsee> @btlogin
[12:56] <Hobbsee> stdin: same problem.
[12:57] <stdin> well, it's really fixed now :p
[12:58] <Hobbsee> stdin: ah, that's fixed it.  thanks.
[12:59] <stdin> silly unix permissions...
[12:59] <Hobbsee> hehe
[12:59]  * Hobbsee notes that #edubuntu still holds a ban for She Who Cannot Be Named, too.
[13:01] <Hobbsee> BT is edited, for eagles0513875.
[13:03] <elky> Hobbsee, well, if the edubuntu people deem her worth keeping out, then i'm not going to argue ;)
[13:04] <Hobbsee> elky: heh.  I've no idea if they even know, and such.
[13:04] <Hobbsee> :)
[13:04] <elky> Hobbsee, nor am i going to clamour to inform them.
[13:04] <Hobbsee> elky: neither, come to think of it :)
[13:05] <Hobbsee> bazhang: the #kubuntu-devel ban got removed, FYI.
[13:05] <Hobbsee> bazhang: how long that will stay, i've no idea.
[13:21] <eagles0513875> hey Hobbsee
[13:22] <eagles0513875> Hobbsee: i still cant get into motu channel
[13:22] <Hobbsee> eagles0513875: hi.  Yes, that's deliberate.
[13:23] <eagles0513875> Hobbsee: i would really like to help with pking of new programs for the ubuntu line
[13:23] <Hobbsee> eagles0513875: are you going to be more productive than you usually are?
[13:23] <eagles0513875> yes
[13:23] <eagles0513875> not to mention my lecture time table doesnt allow for me to mess around that much have lots of reading as well as math to get in my head
[13:24] <eagles0513875> darn 1's and 0's after 2 days of lectures
[13:24] <eagles0513875> Hobbsee: i just built a beast of a machine that would really help in regards to packaging large programs
[13:24] <Hobbsee> eagles0513875: the machine is only as good as the person behind it.
[13:25] <eagles0513875> Hobbsee: true i dont remember what the ban was over but i have changed alot since that occured.
[13:25] <Hobbsee> eagles0513875: how have you changed?
[13:26] <eagles0513875> firstly even though right now u see me in the dev channel im not in there talking bout stuff not related to development of the distro 
[13:26] <eagles0513875> not to mention im not in there saying anything a majority of the time
[13:26] <eagles0513875> im more mature then when i first started
[13:27] <eagles0513875> i love kubuntu and i cannot use any other distro im doing my lpi certification and i cant even get myself to use a centos vm to try stuff out on
[13:27] <eagles0513875> i want to give back to the community what they have given me
[13:29] <eagles0513875> Hobbsee: its up to you if you want to give me another chance or not
[13:29] <Hobbsee> eagles0513875: for the moment, i've changed the bans to quiet, so you'll be able to be in the channels, but not talk.  Hopefully that will allow you to learn somewhat.  At this point in the release, I'm choosing not to take the chance of you disrupting development yet again.
[13:30] <Hobbsee> After the release, this may be reevaluated.
[13:30] <eagles0513875> Hobbsee: can i work on pkging stuff for hardy since its lts
[13:30] <Hobbsee> s/quiet/quits/
[13:30] <Hobbsee> !sru | eagles0513875 
[13:30]  * eagles0513875 slaps self
[13:31] <eagles0513875> Hobbsee: tyvm
[13:31] <Hobbsee> eagles0513875: also, please note that you will need to actually read documentation, if you wish to succeed in this.  
[13:31] <eagles0513875> Hobbsee: thats what im going ot do go into kubuntu channel and read the motu link
[13:31] <Hobbsee> good luck!
[13:31] <eagles0513875> thanks
[13:31] <eagles0513875> Hobbsee: might also get myself back into bug fixing
[13:32]  * Hobbsee wonders if eagles0513875 ever contributed a useful fix...hence the query about back?
[13:32] <stdin> eagles0513875: it doesn't matter how powerful your build system is, you need skill and teamwork to develop packages. and packages will untimely be built on the LP build farm
[13:32] <Hobbsee> stdin: he can use his machines for test builds, though, which is a Good Thing, and Highly Encouraged.
[13:32] <stdin> you need to be willing to listen, learn and admit when someone knows better than you
[13:33] <eagles0513875> right now Hobbsee im not sure if im going ot get my business going and buy a domain or setup a vm for testing not sure yet where im going with my business idea
[13:33] <stdin> like the almighty Hobbsee, keeper of the pointy-stick-O-doom! ;
[13:33]  * eagles0513875 thinks that sounds rather painful
[13:33] <Hobbsee> eagles0513875: good luck!
[13:33] <Hobbsee> indeed, it is.
[13:33]  * Hobbsee waves the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!™ around
[13:34]  * eagles0513875 thinks i know where it was after getting banned from motu
[13:34] <Hobbsee> @btlogin
[13:36] <eagles0513875> O_o
[13:36] <Hobbsee> just adding comments.
[13:37] <eagles0513875> ok thought i got in trouble for the last emote
[13:37] <Hobbsee> no
[13:43] <eagles0513875> Hobbsee: can i ask you a question
[13:43] <Hobbsee> eagles0513875: haven't you just asked one?
[13:44] <eagles0513875> Hobbsee: yes but im asking because you could be in the middle of something very important
[13:44] <Hobbsee> eagles0513875: ask away.
[13:44] <eagles0513875> Hobbsee: i would like to become an op for the kubuntu channel
[13:45] <stdin> the answer is a default "no"
[13:45] <Hobbsee> eagles0513875: "no".
[13:45] <elky> eagles0513875, that's a good joke. very funny.
[13:45] <eagles0513875> k
[13:45] <eagles0513875> elky: im being serious
[13:46] <stdin> we choose new ops if and when we feel it necessary
[13:46] <eagles0513875> ok
[13:46] <Pici> When operators are needed, we will pick from active people in the relevant channel who are knowledgable, courteous, and fit a few other operator guidelines.
[13:46] <elky> and usually with an unblemished record.
[13:46] <eagles0513875> :( ok 
[13:51] <elky> eagles0513875, if you have no further business here, i direct you to our /topic
[13:51] <eagles0513875> im outa here was ideling in here earlier to get this issue resolved 
[13:52] <eagles0513875> Hobbsee: appreciate your help and i shall now vacate the channel
[13:52] <Hobbsee> cool, cya!
[14:13] <ikonia> what a surpise he was also in club ubuntu
[14:16] <wgrant> All the cool people are.
[14:19] <jdong> I learned a new trick over the weekend for getting apple store employees to leave me alone while browsing :)
[14:19] <jdong> "Can I help you find something?" "Yes, I'd like to quiz you on a few simple questions regarding the iTunes Store DRM..."
[14:19] <jdong> considering it's the Cambridge, MA store I think all the employees have been thoroughly traumatized :)
[14:20] <wgrant> Heh.
[14:20] <Hobbsee> ikonia: who, eagles?
[14:21] <Hobbsee> ikonia: he doesn't seem the type to get up to terribly much devious trouble, tbh.
[14:21] <Hobbsee> ikonia: i doubt he realises what the room stands for, and such.
[14:21]  * wgrant is both devious and troubling.
[14:29]  * ikonia is really dissapointed with the ammount of crap on brainstorm
[14:33]  * elky is not really surprised.
[14:34] <ikonia> "promote ubuntu at the 2012 world cup"
[14:34]  * jussi01 either, you get a cross section of people, you are bound to get a good amount of crap
[14:34] <ikonia> I just wonder if it's sometimes worth opening this stuff tot he public as the ammount of junk I had to wade through to find worthwhile ideas
[14:35] <ikonia> "canonical make pledge towards helping open source projects"
[14:35] <ikonia> it's just insulting
[14:35] <elky> welcome to mainstream consciousness
[14:35] <ikonia> I think the brain storm idea is a rally good one, just the volume of time wasting crap is untrue
[14:35]  * ikonia returns to the matrix
[14:36] <ikonia> I don't want to be in the real worl
[14:36] <ikonia> world
[14:38] <elky> i echo that daily
[16:41] <LjL> AloneInTheDark was on the same IP as SONICWANDERER, apparently a NAT
[16:42] <LjL> shall i redirect here instead of banning?
[16:42] <jdong> too bad we can't bug IRC like what the forums do :D
[16:42] <LjL> they evidently knew each other
[16:42] <LjL> and while their IP is .pl, they spoke swedish to each other
[17:28]  * jussi01 is really happy :)
[17:33] <Tm_T> why so, son?
[17:41] <jussi01> Got contact lenses today, now I can see!! :D
[17:42] <Tm_T> aah
[17:42] <Tm_T> good (:
[18:20] <negge^> could you please kick the user "negge" out, I forgot to close down irssi when I went home from work and now I can't auth with nickserv 'cause my nick's taken...
[18:21] <LjL> negge^, that cannot be done by us
[18:21] <LjL> !ghost | negge^
[18:22] <negge^> LjL: alright, thanks for the hint
[18:23] <negge^> LjL: alright so "negge" is now ghosted, how do I auth? I can't change nickname 'cause it's already in use
[18:24] <LjL> negge^: that's because your irssi logged in again, you need to be faster than it
[18:24] <LjL> negge^: ghost, and then change nick immediately
[18:24] <negge^> LjL: hehe okay I'll try
[18:25] <negge> LjL: thanks for the help, looks like I beat irssi this time
[18:28] <AthlonFanboy> why am i banned from ubuntu+1?
[18:28] <Seeker`> @btlogin
[18:29] <Seeker`> @login
[18:29] <Pici> AthlonFanboy: Let us check, one moment.
[18:29] <Seeker`> @btlogin
[18:30] <Seeker`> AthlonFanboy: Looks like general troll-like behaviour
[18:31] <AthlonFanboy> when?
[18:31] <Seeker`> 26th June 2008
[18:31] <Seeker`> 2038 UTC
[18:32] <AthlonFanboy> Ok 
[18:33] <AthlonFanboy> does the ban ever get lifted?
[18:33] <Pici> AthlonFanboy: Do you happen to remember getting banned?
[18:33] <LjL> AthlonFanboy, considering you also got a ban on #ubuntuforums for similar reasons later in August
[18:33] <LjL> i don't believe that sort of behavior is likely to stop
[18:34] <AthlonFanboy> Ok w/e August was a rough month for me
[18:34] <LjL> so was June apparently
[18:35] <AthlonFanboy> What would happen if my ip address changes? It seems to change every year for me
[18:35] <Pici> We take ban evasion seriously.
[18:35] <AthlonFanboy> Well i cant help dynamic IPs
[18:36] <LjL> then don't join if you know you're banned
[18:36] <Seeker`> AthlonFanboy: I think the point is dont try to join channels you know you are banned from until you have been told you can
[18:36] <AthlonFanboy> ok 
[18:36] <AthlonFanboy> last thing
[18:36] <AthlonFanboy> Do they remove bans after a while?
[18:36] <Pici> Depends.
[18:37] <AthlonFanboy> for something i did.
[18:37] <Seeker`> Typically it is up to the person that set the ban
[18:37] <AthlonFanboy> who set those bans?
[18:38] <Seeker`> Ompaul set the one in #ubuntu+1
[18:38] <Seeker`> although there is an interesting statement from nalioth in the log
[18:39] <Seeker`> 2008-06-26T23:37:36 <nalioth> klined
[18:39] <AthlonFanboy> wats klined?
[18:40] <LjL> not a good thing
[18:45] <AthlonFanboy> whatever'
[18:45] <Seeker`> it means you were banned from the network
[18:48] <nalioth> i did not name any names.  it could have been anyone
[18:48] <LjL> of course
[18:48] <nalioth> most likely a script kiddy in #ubuntu 
[18:49] <Seeker`> nalioth: I merely said it was an interesting statement
[18:50] <nalioth> coincidences are interesting :)
[18:52] <LjL> AthlonFanboy: can you vacate this channel if you have no further questions please?
[18:52] <nalioth> AthlonFanboy: /topic
[18:52] <AthlonFanboy> what
[18:52] <AthlonFanboy> ok bye
[18:53] <LjL> any comments in PM please
[19:02] <LjL> check bt if curious.
[19:33] <Myrtti> @login
[19:33] <Myrtti> @btlogin
[19:35] <Myrtti> I kids.
[19:35] <Myrtti> Hi, even
[19:35] <Pici> I Myrtti 
[19:36] <pleia2> no, you Pici 
[19:36] <Pici> pleia2: Oh, right. I forgot.
[19:36] <ompaul> Pici, who is this I you are speaking of - first it is Myrtti then it is forgot!
[19:38] <ompaul> Pici, unless the truth is that I is a range of values bounded by both Myrtti forgot
[19:38] <Pici> ompaul: I'm also confused.
[19:38] <ompaul> Pici, and given that I is, is bad grammar, perhaps I would be better to say, I am, Myrtti forgot
[19:39] <ompaul> Pici, I'm also, so 
[19:39] <ompaul> we now can say 
[19:39] <ompaul> Myrtti also forgot
[19:39] <ompaul> now this is a bad thing, so could you remind her?
[19:40]  * ompaul is wishing someone did not start this
[20:29] <Tm_T> bah
[20:30] <Myrtti> exactly
[20:38] <Seeker`> hab
[20:57] <PriceChild> not quite
[21:06] <ompaul> ?
[21:07] <PriceChild> way off
[21:07] <ompaul> PriceChild, you have no context
[21:19] <ompaul> http://www.latinsud.com/answer/
[21:19] <ompaul> heh
[21:27] <LjL> ompaul: you look good in that photo, the greenish tint is soft the right amount
[21:45] <ompaul> LjL, why thank you 
[21:45] <ompaul> that looks bad :-(
[21:45] <ompaul> so ehh 
[21:45] <ompaul> LjL, why thank you sir, glad you liked it!
[21:45] <LjL> people can't take a compliment.
[21:58] <ompaul> LjL, I was trying very hard to :)
[23:08] <LjL> jesus christ, isn't help in the form of "let's look for a keyword, any keyword in your error message and give you a bot factoid for it assuming it even exist" extremely annoying
[23:09] <Pici> !help | LjL 
[23:09]  * Pici runs
[23:10] <LjL> seriously, is there any little trick to mark an NTFS volume not dirty
[23:10] <LjL> or for that matter, to even fsck it
[23:10] <Pici> LjL: I think ntfsfix in the ntfsprogs package can do that.
[23:11] <LjL> Pici: ah yeah, i noticed that one, but the description in apt says " Fix common filesystem errors *and force Windows to check NTFS*"... so it sounded like the exact contrary (i.e. *mark* it as dirty)
[23:11] <Pici> LjL: It could be not what you want, but I'd at least start with it
[23:12] <Pici> "You may run ntfsfix on an NTFS volume if you think it was damaged by Windows or some other way and it cannot be mounted."
[23:12] <LjL> let's tell him
[23:20] <LjL> Pici: that seemed to make it mount, but also show up as empty :<
[23:34] <LjL> envy made it into universe? when's automatix's turn?
[23:35] <nalioth> wait, what?
[23:35] <LjL> !envy
[23:35]  * nalioth checks his calendar for the end of days
[23:37] <LjL> i hope whoever put it into universe knew what he or she was doing
[23:38] <nalioth> one would hope the MOTU haven't all gone been hitting the same pipe
[23:43] <Pici> envyng has been there since Hardy was released... where were you two?
[23:44] <LjL> Pici: is that a trick question?
[23:45] <Pici> LjL: I'm actually not sure.
[23:45] <LjL> Pici: i do have the list of new packages on RSS, but i never do check RSS.