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stgraberok, starting testing Ubuntu server amd64 now01:03
stgraberserver 64bit done01:21
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henoHi TheMuso, can you take some ubuntu studio test installs?02:18
TheMusoheno: I am doing just that. I am testing 64-bit ubuntustudio installs.02:19
henoTheMuso: great :)02:20
* heno waits for a kubuntu upgrade test to complete before wandering off to bed02:21
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slangasekheno: speaking of kubuntu, do you know if bug #270423 still manifests?  it's still marked 'new', but I was pretty sure I saw activity on this bug already; maybe I've misremembered02:53
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aragood morning, everybody!07:25
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aramorning davmor2, thekorn08:27
davmor2Morning ara, everybody08:27
davmor2slangasek: have the images stabilised now?08:28
thekornhi ara, davmor208:29
slangasekdavmor2: yes08:43
liwhm, I left qemu (not kvm) running an install overnight, since the grub installation step took more than a minute; it's still at that stage... anyone have any guesses? that's with yesterday's intrepid amd64 alternate08:44
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davmor2Right I need to take my wife off to a meeting so I'll finish off wubi installs and then start on Xubuntu when I get back09:02
henomorning09:34
* slangasek waves09:39
Tomcat_Good morning. :)09:41
henoslangasek: yes I'm seeing that. Added a comment.09:43
slangasekheno: ok, thanks :/09:49
TheMusoslangasek: ubuntustudio i386 and amd64 tests have all been completed once. Hoping there will be more from the other studio devs, but at least everything has been covered.09:49
slangasekwhee09:50
* Tomcat_ starts an alternate install from the Ubuntu i386 DVD09:51
* davmor2 thinks slangasek needs to get out more :)09:51
henoschwuk: can you run some upgrade tests? I believe you had set up some VMs for that09:53
davmor2heno: I can run some on hw once real tests are out of the way too :)09:56
henodavmor2: cool!09:58
davmor2heno: how far back do you want to go with them?10:01
henodavmor2: hardy -> intrepid is fine10:01
davmor2heno: #how about dapper intrepid?10:02
henodavmor2: that's only supported via hardy, which we tested already - of course adding cruft for extra realism is always good :)10:03
davmor2well in that case I'll do one of each from hardy and one test one from gusty and one from dapper just for fun :)10:05
* heno does some 64bit kubuntu desktop tests10:14
Tomcat_Gah. My first test made a coaster (kinda).10:15
schwukheno: just making sure my vm's are up-to-date, then I'll run some10:44
henoschwuk: thanks10:45
davmor2heno: i'm getting a weird wubi shut down issue on latest Kubuntu cds10:56
henohm, sounds bad :(11:03
davmor2I'll come back it though I think when agustino is on-line and I can debug with him :)11:08
slangasekmm, how do y'all feel about a respin of xubuntu alternate?11:09
slangaseklooks like it's missing a package update that I didn't notice until just now because the weather report didn't pick it up earlier11:09
araslangasek: only alternate or desktop has the same problem?11:11
slangasekonly alternate; desktop /did/ have the problem, but I rerolled for that earlier11:11
slangasekbut forgot to check alternate, it seems11:11
araslangasek: cool, thanks :-)11:12
araslangasek: I am downloading now xubuntu desktop, I wanted to know if I should stop :-)11:12
slangasekthat would still be a "no", the delta ought to be very rsyncable. :)11:12
davmor2slangasek: go for it I haven't tested it yet :)11:16
slangasekok, done11:19
slangasek;-P11:19
davmor2slangasek: Found an issue with wubi install of Kubuntu https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/276693 so it doesn't reboot I'm just goning to try a shutdown and see it that is effected also11:22
ubot5`Launchpad bug 276693 in wubi "Intrepid: Kubuntu Fails to shutdown cleanly" [Undecided,New]11:22
slangasekdavmor2: fwiw, by all rights it should be affected too11:23
davmor2slangasek: I'm guessing it should but it's nice to confirm ones belief :)11:24
davmor2slangasek: I need to talk to evand or xivulon to work through it though I'm guessing.  It didn't happen on the 20080930 cd only 30.111:26
davmor2slangasek: Yes halt too :(11:26
davmor2I've marked the bug as serious11:27
* ara -> lunch12:47
henotwo problems with the Edubuntu add-on CD: bug 276728 and bug 27672412:53
henodavmor2: could you try the edubuntu add-on CD on real HW?12:53
henoit may be a vbox issue I guess12:53
davmor2heno: no probs12:54
davmor2stgraber: no edubuntu usplash on a real install either13:22
* liw wonders again why the iso tracker login needs a captcha13:26
henoliw: could be because it's shared with brainstorm which is high-traffic and susceptible to gaming13:29
liwI can understand a captcha for registering an account, but login?13:29
henotrue. I guess it has a pw reminder feature, but the capta could be moved to a separate page13:31
liwit's not a big thing, just makes me wonder every time I need to log in13:32
henodavmor2: I mean on an ubuntu install, you should get prompted to install additional edubuntu components13:33
heno(re: bug 276728)13:33
axelgitmhi all. would you call this a bug: intrepid-dvd-amd64.iso live-dvd, the multimedia examples don't play, shows an errormessage.13:34
henoit installs additional educational packages via Add/Remove13:34
henoaxelgitm: yes13:35
davmor2heno: yes the open autorun prompt tries to run autorun.inf which links straight to start.exe13:35
henolet me try to reproduce that13:35
davmor2But I agree there should be a window pop up that says this cd contains add-on packages13:35
axelgitmheno: it's because the sound card isn't working out of the box. I have to select oss13:36
henodavmor2: and that happens when you first boot the system and then insert the CD, but not when you boot with it already inserted? (just to get clarity on that)13:39
davmor2yes if I insert the cd in a running system I get the addon package dialogue and the autorun dialogue13:40
davmor2with the cd in the machine before I start up I get nothing but an icon for the cd13:41
henodavmor2: ok, same as me then, thanks13:41
henoaxelgitm: The files play fine here. Can you look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems to file a bug for your card (or see if one already exists)?13:42
davmor2heno: The open autorun prompt though only tries to open the autorun.inf file like it would normally under a windows system.13:42
davmor2right dinner :)13:51
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liwhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/AlternateInstall says "Boot using the desktop CD " -- is that a typo, should it not say "alternate CD"?14:23
henoliw: typo (fixed)14:25
davmor2_lunchara: What do you mean you don't look like the guy with the goatie ;)14:26
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aradavmor2: it wasn't quite me :-)14:26
davmor2ara: Oh you shaved off the goatie ;)14:27
aradavmor2: yes, just today, after being fired from the circus where I played the incredible bearded woman. I don't need it now :-)14:28
davmor2:D LMAO14:28
liwheno, that was fast, thanks14:29
* ara starts downloading xubuntu hardy point release to test xubuntu upgrade14:35
* heno does the Ubuntu 64bit d-i DVD install, followed by the edubuntu add-on test 14:42
asacwhat is the latest CD set?15:01
asaci have a new volunteer to test beta ;)15:02
davmor2asac: check the tracker15:02
davmor2heno: what will be on the edubuntu cds instead of winfoss then?15:27
henodavmor2: umenu, which I guess means wubi will be there15:28
davmor2I wouldn't of thought that would be possible as wubi would need to magically import Ubuntu.....15:29
davmor2heno: why have you passed one version of winfoss and failed the other?15:32
* davmor2 starts on xubuntu15:34
henodavmor2: I assume wubi on the edubuntu disk would just give you a choice of the installable distros (u/k/x)15:34
davmor2oh and then download it15:34
henodavmor2: when I reported the first one I filed a bug for removal of the winfoss, which Colin OKed before I marked the second result15:35
henoStill a bug there, but Fix Committed I guess15:35
mvo_heno: do you think bug #276728 should get a taks for nautilus as well to not show the autorun prompt?15:41
mvo_heno: the detection for inserted CDs should be fixed now15:42
henomvo_: you mean the notification area at the top of nautilus?15:43
davmor2mvo_: I think the autorun prompt should be there because there is an autorun file15:44
henodoes that work under any circumstance?15:44
davmor2heno: it does if I insert a disc with window autorun on15:45
davmor2games etc15:45
* ara downloads edubuntu 8.04.1 while xubuntu is upgrading...16:25
mvo_how are the upgrade looking so far?16:26
liwhttp://blog.liw.fi/posts/kvm-for-ubuntu-iso-testing/ -- just in case that's useful to anyone16:26
henomvo_: I did some kubuntu yesterday, ara is doing some now. btw, what should be the test procedure for Edubuntu upgrades? Ubuntu Hardy install -> add-on -> upgrade?16:45
araheno: yes, i think so16:46
henomvo_: you probably also know that we are making upgrades the focus for testing day next week16:46
sbeattieheno: when you did the kubuntu upgrade, did you do a kubuntu-kde4 upgrade?16:47
mvo_heno: edubuntu> yes16:48
mvo_heno: yeah, on mondy. I'm on vacation on that day unfortunately, but I think its a great idea. I'm looking forward to feedback escpcailly from people with nvidia and fglrx drivers16:48
sbeattiemmm, yeah. We should have release notes about the fglrx/ati issues.16:52
henosbeattie: tbh I did a bastardised upgrade - I installed 8.04 kde3, then installed update-manager which in turn gave me 8.10 kde4 ;)16:53
henowe should probably test a range of ways of doing that16:54
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henoliw: cool. should https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/KVM be updated with new wisdom as well?16:56
liwheno, I think it's mostly the same, but I'll review and update16:57
henothanks16:58
pedro_ara: got the same problem, bug 276657 with my Spanish install16:58
LaserJockdavmor2: please don't assign Edubuntu to bugs17:01
davmor2LaserJock: Oh sorry why?17:01
LaserJockdavmor2: because 1) you shouldn't be assigning bugs to teams and 2) it creates spam for all the Ubuntu members17:02
LaserJocks/Ubuntu/Edubuntu/17:02
_MMA_LaserJock: Is there a edubuntu-dev?17:03
_MMA_*team17:03
LaserJockno17:03
_MMA_Ahh...17:03
arapedro_: ok, thanks17:03
LaserJockedubuntu-bugs is sub'd though17:03
* ara takes a break until qa meeting17:04
davmor2LaserJock: So who do you assign edubuntu bugs to if it isn't the team?17:04
LaserJockdavmor2: nobody17:04
LaserJockdavmor2: when somebody is working on the bug they'll assign themselves, otherwise it shouldn't have an assignee17:05
davmor2LaserJock: Ah okay my bad mis-understood the assign protocol17:05
LaserJockdavmor2: no problem, thanks for the testing17:06
affluxinstalling intrepid-alternate-amd64 on kvm got stuck, this time at "configuring di-utils-mapdevfs", last line in syslog reads "anna[6515]: DEBUG: retrieving xfsprogs-udeb". "anna cdrom-retriever default" is the last running procress. Any ideas how to debug this further? I suspect a user error on my side.17:08
mvo_could someone translate https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/275124/comments/2 for me ? it looks spanish17:08
ubot5`Launchpad bug 275124 in update-manager "Package linux-headers 2.6.24.19 not instaled" [Undecided,New]17:08
affluxmvo_: just guessing, but the last line looks like "subprocess terminated by signal (Broken pipe)"17:11
affluxthe line above sounds like "filesystem in tar archive damaged"17:11
* heno reboots, brb17:19
* davmor2 takes xubutnu alt32bit17:28
mathiazstgraber: could you add two new test cases for the server isos on the tracker ?18:03
mathiazstgraber: tomcat and virtualization (last two sections from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/ServerInstall) ?18:04
sbeattiemathiaz: can you add the virtualization one to the "need to be added" section of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/ so it doesn't get forgotten?18:12
davmor2mathiaz: I think tomcat may already be on the list :)18:13
mathiazsbeattie: davmor2: thanks18:20
davmor2bdmurray: just tested suspend seems fine here?18:57
bdmurraydavmor2: how long did you hold the buttons for?18:57
davmor2tapped it.18:58
bdmurraytry a couple of seconds18:58
davmor2brb tea I'll do it then18:59
heno*** New desktop images are being scheduled ***19:10
henono point testing current images - we could try mopping up alternates and upgrades though19:11
schwukheno: What's the schedule?19:13
henoschwuk: we hope to release noon tomorrow (UK time)19:14
schwukheno: thanks19:14
henoschwuk: let's talk at the phone meeting about how we can drum up help with testing19:15
henonew images will start appearing in an hour or so I guess19:16
davmor2I don't know if I'll have any bandwidth so we'll see :)19:24
henodavmor2: hopefully the delta will be small - also we can leave DVDs for tomorrow19:26
bdmurraydavmor2: any news w/ suspend?19:31
davmor2bdmurray: different responses my laptop just dies I'm guessing same issue my wife's suspend button doesn't seem to work and selecting it from menu and starting up happens over and over without a flaw19:52
bdmurraydavmor2: hmm, right it needs to be with the button not view the menu itme19:54
slangasekheno: so you would prefer that I roll the DVDs last?20:07
davmor2yes need to get through the cd's and save bandwidth :)20:07
slangasekI was going to do the DVDs first so that folks can get a jump start on downloading them; but if that's going to mean losing testers for the night before anything is published, I'll do CDs first20:07
henoslangasek: yes please, CDs first20:10
slangasekok20:10
davmor2need to reboot about to run out of memory :(20:12
slangasek... how does that follow?20:12
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davmor2Anything?21:17
henodavmor2: nothing yet21:25
davmor2:(21:25
slangasekubuntu desktop is up21:40
slangasekhmm, no21:41
slangasekthe livefs is done, still waiting for the ISO build21:41
slangasekok, ubuntu desktop are up now21:47
davmor2Yay21:47
slangasekkubuntu build in progress21:47
slangasek(will take a while yet, it only started 7 minutes ago)21:48
davmor2slangasek: if I'm lucky I might get an image downloaded21:49
davmor2well with slow band the way it is if I get an images rsynced before it's time for bed I'll be happy21:57
davmor2it's currently saying 3 hours +21:58
slangasekare you rsyncing from scratch?21:58
davmor2nope21:58
slangasekor is it really that slow for an incremental rsync?21:58
davmor2it's really that slow21:58
slangasekhmm21:58
davmor2slangasek: in the morning it will take about 20minutes to rsync all the isos21:59
slangasekso there's better bandwidth in the morning?21:59
davmor2oh oh oh it's got to a fast bit 38 minutes now21:59
davmor2it's only the bits where it has to download that slow it down22:00
davmor2slangasek: Yes since ntl took over and then virgin it's gone from the sublime to the ridiculous.  First ntl screwed things up and now virgin have added caps.  But when ever I ring up about it I'm never capped go figure.  They put it down to high demand in my local vicinity22:02
cr3heno: hi there, just got your email so I'll try to be as useful as possible today22:03
davmor2heno: hows your speed?22:04
cr3heno: which Steve is trying to debug the reboot=b problem, Langasek or Beattie?22:04
henocr3: sbeattie is22:05
henolast I heard he had gotten access to the PDUs22:06
henodavmor2: looking22:06
cr3heno: on a side note, schwuk has committed fixes for the report crons and me for another bug. would you mind if we update the production server?22:06
schwukheno, cr3: both sbeattie and I have access to the KVM, but the machines we want are offline22:07
cr3schwuk: bzr branch bzr+ssh://cr3@bazaar.launchpad.net/~hardware-certification/certify-server/trunk22:08
cr3schwuk: cd trunk; PYTHONPATH=. ./scripts/certify_config update; PYTHONPATH=. ./scripts/certify_pdu -c examples/lime reboot [hardware id]22:08
henodavmor2: I'm getting from 50k to 300k, fluctuating22:09
davmor2heno: diito22:09
davmor2slangasek: ^22:09
cr3schwuk and sbeattie: give me a sec, I'll preseed the reboot=b kernel parameter and try reinstalling the Dell dimension22:10
slangasekdavmor2: well, you seem to be saying that it's an ISP issue, which I can't really do anything about? :/22:10
davmor2slangasek: I know :(  Just letting you know22:11
davmor2Ssssshhhhhhh but I'm at 80% on the first cd22:13
davmor2I'll burn 2 copies and blitz through the tests :)22:14
davmor293%22:15
davmor2come on22:15
davmor2heno: I'll take wubi and m-a first and then blitz through the rest22:17
sbeattieslangasek: kubuntu are still building, right?22:18
slangaseklivefs is built; let me check on the ISO22:18
slangasekyeah, still building22:18
henodavmor2: cool. I'll start on the standard installs22:18
sbeattiecr3: cool beans22:21
cr3sbeattie: were you the one on the kvm console of 200710-173?22:24
slangasekkubuntu done, posting to the tracker22:24
sbeattiecr3: I was, I dropped off22:25
davmor2sbeattie: you see that's no good you need more caffeine ;)22:26
sbeattiedavmor2: you have *no* idea how true that is. :-)22:26
* davmor2 passes sbeattie a cuppa22:27
cr3sbeattie: isn't it fun trying to type on the kvm? :)22:27
cr3sbeattie: by the way, busybox doesn't have ifconfig. instead, you want to use ip link show22:27
davmor2heno: to be honest this late in the day I'll be happy if we can clear one set of cds22:27
sbeattiecr3: what, you liked my attempt to invoke iiiiiiifconiiig?22:28
davmor2definite lack of caffeine ;)22:29
davmor2you've got the shakes man22:30
cr3sbeattie: haha, it's good to see someone else who could sympathise with what I have to do sometimes :)22:30
davmor2Yay first test underway22:33
davmor2heno: I'm going for oem too so if you start with the standard installs :)22:38
* heno does a standard install in German22:41
davmor2It's coming home ....... damned tune catchy though22:58
davmor2heno: pay close attention to the log in automatically check box :)23:08
davmor2on your german install23:09
davmor2wow the french for home folder is home folder :-/23:09
stgraberdavmor2: :)23:11
davmor2I think I upset it by doing english for the starting oem and french for the continuation23:12
henoyay, the German install worked!23:24
slangasekxubuntu desktop posted, DVDs now rolling23:25
henocody-somerville: ^23:27
* heno starts on kubuntu standard installs23:28
cody-somerville\o/23:29
davmor264bit m-a left then I'm going to bed I'll pick up again at 08:0023:47
davmor2heno: don't worry about manual on 64bit I need to do it for m-a23:50
henodavmor2: ok, cool23:51
henoSpanish 64bit kubuntu checks out23:52
heno(entire disk install)23:52
* davmor2 wills his machine to go just that bit faster23:57

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