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[01:03] <stgraber> ok, starting testing Ubuntu server amd64 now
[01:21] <stgraber> server 64bit done
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[02:18] <heno> Hi TheMuso, can you take some ubuntu studio test installs?
[02:19] <TheMuso> heno: I am doing just that. I am testing 64-bit ubuntustudio installs.
[02:20] <heno> TheMuso: great :)
[02:21]  * heno waits for a kubuntu upgrade test to complete before wandering off to bed
[02:24]  * omolina is away: 11
[02:53] <slangasek> heno: speaking of kubuntu, do you know if bug #270423 still manifests?  it's still marked 'new', but I was pretty sure I saw activity on this bug already; maybe I've misremembered
[03:02]  * omolina is away: return 1
[07:25] <ara> good morning, everybody!
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[08:27] <ara> morning davmor2, thekorn
[08:27] <davmor2> Morning ara, everybody
[08:28] <davmor2> slangasek: have the images stabilised now?
[08:29] <thekorn> hi ara, davmor2
[08:43] <slangasek> davmor2: yes
[08:44] <liw> hm, I left qemu (not kvm) running an install overnight, since the grub installation step took more than a minute; it's still at that stage... anyone have any guesses? that's with yesterday's intrepid amd64 alternate
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[09:02] <davmor2> Right I need to take my wife off to a meeting so I'll finish off wubi installs and then start on Xubuntu when I get back
[09:34] <heno> morning
[09:39]  * slangasek waves
[09:41] <Tomcat_> Good morning. :)
[09:43] <heno> slangasek: yes I'm seeing that. Added a comment.
[09:49] <slangasek> heno: ok, thanks :/
[09:49] <TheMuso> slangasek: ubuntustudio i386 and amd64 tests have all been completed once. Hoping there will be more from the other studio devs, but at least everything has been covered.
[09:50] <slangasek> whee
[09:51]  * Tomcat_ starts an alternate install from the Ubuntu i386 DVD
[09:51]  * davmor2 thinks slangasek needs to get out more :)
[09:53] <heno> schwuk: can you run some upgrade tests? I believe you had set up some VMs for that
[09:56] <davmor2> heno: I can run some on hw once real tests are out of the way too :)
[09:58] <heno> davmor2: cool!
[10:01] <davmor2> heno: how far back do you want to go with them?
[10:01] <heno> davmor2: hardy -> intrepid is fine
[10:02] <davmor2> heno: #how about dapper intrepid?
[10:03] <heno> davmor2: that's only supported via hardy, which we tested already - of course adding cruft for extra realism is always good :)
[10:05] <davmor2> well in that case I'll do one of each from hardy and one test one from gusty and one from dapper just for fun :)
[10:14]  * heno does some 64bit kubuntu desktop tests
[10:15] <Tomcat_> Gah. My first test made a coaster (kinda).
[10:44] <schwuk> heno: just making sure my vm's are up-to-date, then I'll run some
[10:45] <heno> schwuk: thanks
[10:56] <davmor2> heno: i'm getting a weird wubi shut down issue on latest Kubuntu cds
[11:03] <heno> hm, sounds bad :(
[11:08] <davmor2> I'll come back it though I think when agustino is on-line and I can debug with him :)
[11:09] <slangasek> mm, how do y'all feel about a respin of xubuntu alternate?
[11:09] <slangasek> looks like it's missing a package update that I didn't notice until just now because the weather report didn't pick it up earlier
[11:11] <ara> slangasek: only alternate or desktop has the same problem?
[11:11] <slangasek> only alternate; desktop /did/ have the problem, but I rerolled for that earlier
[11:11] <slangasek> but forgot to check alternate, it seems
[11:12] <ara> slangasek: cool, thanks :-)
[11:12] <ara> slangasek: I am downloading now xubuntu desktop, I wanted to know if I should stop :-)
[11:12] <slangasek> that would still be a "no", the delta ought to be very rsyncable. :)
[11:16] <davmor2> slangasek: go for it I haven't tested it yet :)
[11:19] <slangasek> ok, done
[11:19] <slangasek> ;-P
[11:22] <davmor2> slangasek: Found an issue with wubi install of Kubuntu https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/276693 so it doesn't reboot I'm just goning to try a shutdown and see it that is effected also
[11:22] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 276693 in wubi "Intrepid: Kubuntu Fails to shutdown cleanly" [Undecided,New]
[11:23] <slangasek> davmor2: fwiw, by all rights it should be affected too
[11:24] <davmor2> slangasek: I'm guessing it should but it's nice to confirm ones belief :)
[11:26] <davmor2> slangasek: I need to talk to evand or xivulon to work through it though I'm guessing.  It didn't happen on the 20080930 cd only 30.1
[11:26] <davmor2> slangasek: Yes halt too :(
[11:27] <davmor2> I've marked the bug as serious
[12:47]  * ara -> lunch
[12:53] <heno> two problems with the Edubuntu add-on CD: bug 276728 and bug 276724
[12:53] <heno> davmor2: could you try the edubuntu add-on CD on real HW?
[12:53] <heno> it may be a vbox issue I guess
[12:54] <davmor2> heno: no probs
[13:22] <davmor2> stgraber: no edubuntu usplash on a real install either
[13:26]  * liw wonders again why the iso tracker login needs a captcha
[13:29] <heno> liw: could be because it's shared with brainstorm which is high-traffic and susceptible to gaming
[13:29] <liw> I can understand a captcha for registering an account, but login?
[13:31] <heno> true. I guess it has a pw reminder feature, but the capta could be moved to a separate page
[13:32] <liw> it's not a big thing, just makes me wonder every time I need to log in
[13:33] <heno> davmor2: I mean on an ubuntu install, you should get prompted to install additional edubuntu components
[13:33] <heno> (re: bug 276728)
[13:34] <axelgitm> hi all. would you call this a bug: intrepid-dvd-amd64.iso live-dvd, the multimedia examples don't play, shows an errormessage.
[13:34] <heno> it installs additional educational packages via Add/Remove
[13:35] <heno> axelgitm: yes
[13:35] <davmor2> heno: yes the open autorun prompt tries to run autorun.inf which links straight to start.exe
[13:35] <heno> let me try to reproduce that
[13:35] <davmor2> But I agree there should be a window pop up that says this cd contains add-on packages
[13:36] <axelgitm> heno: it's because the sound card isn't working out of the box. I have to select oss
[13:39] <heno> davmor2: and that happens when you first boot the system and then insert the CD, but not when you boot with it already inserted? (just to get clarity on that)
[13:40] <davmor2> yes if I insert the cd in a running system I get the addon package dialogue and the autorun dialogue
[13:41] <davmor2> with the cd in the machine before I start up I get nothing but an icon for the cd
[13:41] <heno> davmor2: ok, same as me then, thanks
[13:42] <heno> axelgitm: The files play fine here. Can you look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems to file a bug for your card (or see if one already exists)?
[13:42] <davmor2> heno: The open autorun prompt though only tries to open the autorun.inf file like it would normally under a windows system.
[13:51] <davmor2> right dinner :)
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[14:23] <liw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/AlternateInstall says "Boot using the desktop CD " -- is that a typo, should it not say "alternate CD"?
[14:25] <heno> liw: typo (fixed)
[14:26] <davmor2_lunch> ara: What do you mean you don't look like the guy with the goatie ;)
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[14:26] <ara> davmor2: it wasn't quite me :-)
[14:27] <davmor2> ara: Oh you shaved off the goatie ;)
[14:28] <ara> davmor2: yes, just today, after being fired from the circus where I played the incredible bearded woman. I don't need it now :-)
[14:28] <davmor2> :D LMAO
[14:29] <liw> heno, that was fast, thanks
[14:35]  * ara starts downloading xubuntu hardy point release to test xubuntu upgrade
[14:42]  * heno does the Ubuntu 64bit d-i DVD install, followed by the edubuntu add-on test 
[15:01] <asac> what is the latest CD set?
[15:02] <asac> i have a new volunteer to test beta ;)
[15:02] <davmor2> asac: check the tracker
[15:27] <davmor2> heno: what will be on the edubuntu cds instead of winfoss then?
[15:28] <heno> davmor2: umenu, which I guess means wubi will be there
[15:29] <davmor2> I wouldn't of thought that would be possible as wubi would need to magically import Ubuntu.....
[15:32] <davmor2> heno: why have you passed one version of winfoss and failed the other?
[15:34]  * davmor2 starts on xubuntu
[15:34] <heno> davmor2: I assume wubi on the edubuntu disk would just give you a choice of the installable distros (u/k/x)
[15:34] <davmor2> oh and then download it
[15:35] <heno> davmor2: when I reported the first one I filed a bug for removal of the winfoss, which Colin OKed before I marked the second result
[15:35] <heno> Still a bug there, but Fix Committed I guess
[15:41] <mvo_> heno: do you think bug #276728 should get a taks for nautilus as well to not show the autorun prompt?
[15:42] <mvo_> heno: the detection for inserted CDs should be fixed now
[15:43] <heno> mvo_: you mean the notification area at the top of nautilus?
[15:44] <davmor2> mvo_: I think the autorun prompt should be there because there is an autorun file
[15:44] <heno> does that work under any circumstance?
[15:45] <davmor2> heno: it does if I insert a disc with window autorun on
[15:45] <davmor2> games etc
[16:25]  * ara downloads edubuntu 8.04.1 while xubuntu is upgrading...
[16:26] <mvo_> how are the upgrade looking so far?
[16:26] <liw> http://blog.liw.fi/posts/kvm-for-ubuntu-iso-testing/ -- just in case that's useful to anyone
[16:45] <heno> mvo_: I did some kubuntu yesterday, ara is doing some now. btw, what should be the test procedure for Edubuntu upgrades? Ubuntu Hardy install -> add-on -> upgrade?
[16:46] <ara> heno: yes, i think so
[16:46] <heno> mvo_: you probably also know that we are making upgrades the focus for testing day next week
[16:47] <sbeattie> heno: when you did the kubuntu upgrade, did you do a kubuntu-kde4 upgrade?
[16:48] <mvo_> heno: edubuntu> yes
[16:48] <mvo_> heno: yeah, on mondy. I'm on vacation on that day unfortunately, but I think its a great idea. I'm looking forward to feedback escpcailly from people with nvidia and fglrx drivers
[16:52] <sbeattie> mmm, yeah. We should have release notes about the fglrx/ati issues.
[16:53] <heno> sbeattie: tbh I did a bastardised upgrade - I installed 8.04 kde3, then installed update-manager which in turn gave me 8.10 kde4 ;)
[16:54] <heno> we should probably test a range of ways of doing that
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[16:56] <heno> liw: cool. should https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/KVM be updated with new wisdom as well?
[16:57] <liw> heno, I think it's mostly the same, but I'll review and update
[16:58] <heno> thanks
[16:58] <pedro_> ara: got the same problem, bug 276657 with my Spanish install
[17:01] <LaserJock> davmor2: please don't assign Edubuntu to bugs
[17:01] <davmor2> LaserJock: Oh sorry why?
[17:02] <LaserJock> davmor2: because 1) you shouldn't be assigning bugs to teams and 2) it creates spam for all the Ubuntu members
[17:02] <LaserJock> s/Ubuntu/Edubuntu/
[17:03] <_MMA_> LaserJock: Is there a edubuntu-dev?
[17:03] <_MMA_> *team
[17:03] <LaserJock> no
[17:03] <_MMA_> Ahh...
[17:03] <ara> pedro_: ok, thanks
[17:03] <LaserJock> edubuntu-bugs is sub'd though
[17:04]  * ara takes a break until qa meeting
[17:04] <davmor2> LaserJock: So who do you assign edubuntu bugs to if it isn't the team?
[17:04] <LaserJock> davmor2: nobody
[17:05] <LaserJock> davmor2: when somebody is working on the bug they'll assign themselves, otherwise it shouldn't have an assignee
[17:05] <davmor2> LaserJock: Ah okay my bad mis-understood the assign protocol
[17:06] <LaserJock> davmor2: no problem, thanks for the testing
[17:08] <afflux> installing intrepid-alternate-amd64 on kvm got stuck, this time at "configuring di-utils-mapdevfs", last line in syslog reads "anna[6515]: DEBUG: retrieving xfsprogs-udeb". "anna cdrom-retriever default" is the last running procress. Any ideas how to debug this further? I suspect a user error on my side.
[17:08] <mvo_> could someone translate https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/275124/comments/2 for me ? it looks spanish
[17:08] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 275124 in update-manager "Package linux-headers 2.6.24.19 not instaled" [Undecided,New]
[17:11] <afflux> mvo_: just guessing, but the last line looks like "subprocess terminated by signal (Broken pipe)"
[17:11] <afflux> the line above sounds like "filesystem in tar archive damaged"
[17:19]  * heno reboots, brb
[17:28]  * davmor2 takes xubutnu alt32bit
[18:03] <mathiaz> stgraber: could you add two new test cases for the server isos on the tracker ?
[18:04] <mathiaz> stgraber: tomcat and virtualization (last two sections from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/ServerInstall) ?
[18:12] <sbeattie> mathiaz: can you add the virtualization one to the "need to be added" section of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/ so it doesn't get forgotten?
[18:13] <davmor2> mathiaz: I think tomcat may already be on the list :)
[18:20] <mathiaz> sbeattie: davmor2: thanks
[18:57] <davmor2> bdmurray: just tested suspend seems fine here?
[18:57] <bdmurray> davmor2: how long did you hold the buttons for?
[18:58] <davmor2> tapped it.
[18:58] <bdmurray> try a couple of seconds
[18:59] <davmor2> brb tea I'll do it then
[19:10] <heno> *** New desktop images are being scheduled ***
[19:11] <heno> no point testing current images - we could try mopping up alternates and upgrades though
[19:13] <schwuk> heno: What's the schedule?
[19:14] <heno> schwuk: we hope to release noon tomorrow (UK time)
[19:14] <schwuk> heno: thanks
[19:15] <heno> schwuk: let's talk at the phone meeting about how we can drum up help with testing
[19:16] <heno> new images will start appearing in an hour or so I guess
[19:24] <davmor2> I don't know if I'll have any bandwidth so we'll see :)
[19:26] <heno> davmor2: hopefully the delta will be small - also we can leave DVDs for tomorrow
[19:31] <bdmurray> davmor2: any news w/ suspend?
[19:52] <davmor2> bdmurray: different responses my laptop just dies I'm guessing same issue my wife's suspend button doesn't seem to work and selecting it from menu and starting up happens over and over without a flaw
[19:54] <bdmurray> davmor2: hmm, right it needs to be with the button not view the menu itme
[20:07] <slangasek> heno: so you would prefer that I roll the DVDs last?
[20:07] <davmor2> yes need to get through the cd's and save bandwidth :)
[20:07] <slangasek> I was going to do the DVDs first so that folks can get a jump start on downloading them; but if that's going to mean losing testers for the night before anything is published, I'll do CDs first
[20:10] <heno> slangasek: yes please, CDs first
[20:10] <slangasek> ok
[20:12] <davmor2> need to reboot about to run out of memory :(
[20:12] <slangasek> ... how does that follow?
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[21:17] <davmor2> Anything?
[21:25] <heno> davmor2: nothing yet
[21:25] <davmor2> :(
[21:40] <slangasek> ubuntu desktop is up
[21:41] <slangasek> hmm, no
[21:41] <slangasek> the livefs is done, still waiting for the ISO build
[21:47] <slangasek> ok, ubuntu desktop are up now
[21:47] <davmor2> Yay
[21:47] <slangasek> kubuntu build in progress
[21:48] <slangasek> (will take a while yet, it only started 7 minutes ago)
[21:49] <davmor2> slangasek: if I'm lucky I might get an image downloaded
[21:57] <davmor2> well with slow band the way it is if I get an images rsynced before it's time for bed I'll be happy
[21:58] <davmor2> it's currently saying 3 hours +
[21:58] <slangasek> are you rsyncing from scratch?
[21:58] <davmor2> nope
[21:58] <slangasek> or is it really that slow for an incremental rsync?
[21:58] <davmor2> it's really that slow
[21:58] <slangasek> hmm
[21:59] <davmor2> slangasek: in the morning it will take about 20minutes to rsync all the isos
[21:59] <slangasek> so there's better bandwidth in the morning?
[21:59] <davmor2> oh oh oh it's got to a fast bit 38 minutes now
[22:00] <davmor2> it's only the bits where it has to download that slow it down
[22:02] <davmor2> slangasek: Yes since ntl took over and then virgin it's gone from the sublime to the ridiculous.  First ntl screwed things up and now virgin have added caps.  But when ever I ring up about it I'm never capped go figure.  They put it down to high demand in my local vicinity
[22:03] <cr3> heno: hi there, just got your email so I'll try to be as useful as possible today
[22:04] <davmor2> heno: hows your speed?
[22:04] <cr3> heno: which Steve is trying to debug the reboot=b problem, Langasek or Beattie?
[22:05] <heno> cr3: sbeattie is
[22:06] <heno> last I heard he had gotten access to the PDUs
[22:06] <heno> davmor2: looking
[22:06] <cr3> heno: on a side note, schwuk has committed fixes for the report crons and me for another bug. would you mind if we update the production server?
[22:07] <schwuk> heno, cr3: both sbeattie and I have access to the KVM, but the machines we want are offline
[22:08] <cr3> schwuk: bzr branch bzr+ssh://cr3@bazaar.launchpad.net/~hardware-certification/certify-server/trunk
[22:08] <cr3> schwuk: cd trunk; PYTHONPATH=. ./scripts/certify_config update; PYTHONPATH=. ./scripts/certify_pdu -c examples/lime reboot [hardware id]
[22:09] <heno> davmor2: I'm getting from 50k to 300k, fluctuating
[22:09] <davmor2> heno: diito
[22:09] <davmor2> slangasek: ^
[22:10] <cr3> schwuk and sbeattie: give me a sec, I'll preseed the reboot=b kernel parameter and try reinstalling the Dell dimension
[22:10] <slangasek> davmor2: well, you seem to be saying that it's an ISP issue, which I can't really do anything about? :/
[22:11] <davmor2> slangasek: I know :(  Just letting you know
[22:13] <davmor2> Ssssshhhhhhh but I'm at 80% on the first cd
[22:14] <davmor2> I'll burn 2 copies and blitz through the tests :)
[22:15] <davmor2> 93%
[22:15] <davmor2> come on
[22:17] <davmor2> heno: I'll take wubi and m-a first and then blitz through the rest
[22:18] <sbeattie> slangasek: kubuntu are still building, right?
[22:18] <slangasek> livefs is built; let me check on the ISO
[22:18] <slangasek> yeah, still building
[22:18] <heno> davmor2: cool. I'll start on the standard installs
[22:21] <sbeattie> cr3: cool beans
[22:24] <cr3> sbeattie: were you the one on the kvm console of 200710-173?
[22:24] <slangasek> kubuntu done, posting to the tracker
[22:25] <sbeattie> cr3: I was, I dropped off
[22:26] <davmor2> sbeattie: you see that's no good you need more caffeine ;)
[22:26] <sbeattie> davmor2: you have *no* idea how true that is. :-)
[22:27]  * davmor2 passes sbeattie a cuppa
[22:27] <cr3> sbeattie: isn't it fun trying to type on the kvm? :)
[22:27] <cr3> sbeattie: by the way, busybox doesn't have ifconfig. instead, you want to use ip link show
[22:27] <davmor2> heno: to be honest this late in the day I'll be happy if we can clear one set of cds
[22:28] <sbeattie> cr3: what, you liked my attempt to invoke iiiiiiifconiiig?
[22:29] <davmor2> definite lack of caffeine ;)
[22:30] <davmor2> you've got the shakes man
[22:30] <cr3> sbeattie: haha, it's good to see someone else who could sympathise with what I have to do sometimes :)
[22:33] <davmor2> Yay first test underway
[22:38] <davmor2> heno: I'm going for oem too so if you start with the standard installs :)
[22:41]  * heno does a standard install in German
[22:58] <davmor2> It's coming home ....... damned tune catchy though
[23:08] <davmor2> heno: pay close attention to the log in automatically check box :)
[23:09] <davmor2> on your german install
[23:09] <davmor2> wow the french for home folder is home folder :-/
[23:11] <stgraber> davmor2: :)
[23:12] <davmor2> I think I upset it by doing english for the starting oem and french for the continuation
[23:24] <heno> yay, the German install worked!
[23:25] <slangasek> xubuntu desktop posted, DVDs now rolling
[23:27] <heno> cody-somerville: ^
[23:28]  * heno starts on kubuntu standard installs
[23:29] <cody-somerville> \o/
[23:47] <davmor2> 64bit m-a left then I'm going to bed I'll pick up again at 08:00
[23:50] <davmor2> heno: don't worry about manual on 64bit I need to do it for m-a
[23:51] <heno> davmor2: ok, cool
[23:52] <heno> Spanish 64bit kubuntu checks out
[23:52] <heno> (entire disk install)
[23:57]  * davmor2 wills his machine to go just that bit faster