[19:21]  * mpt compares the layout of <http://www.ubuntu.com/products/softwarecatalogue> and <https://shop.canonical.com/>
[19:22] <mpt> I suppose <http://www.canonical.com/> vs. <https://shop.canonical.com/> is a fairer comparison
[19:22] <mpt> and they're only slightly different
[19:37] <mpt> newz2000, why do you use <em class="tiny">TM</em> instead of &#8482;?
[19:37] <newz2000> I don't think I did that
[19:37] <newz2000> mpt: where is it?
[19:39] <mpt> newz2000, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[19:39] <mpt> Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM, AthlonTM, SempronTM)
[19:39] <newz2000> oh, I copy and pasted that from somewhere
[19:39] <newz2000> but I probably didn't know about 8482
[19:39] <newz2000> too many entities these days
[19:40] <mpt> &trade; is easier to remember :-)
[19:40] <newz2000> are you looking over that email I sent re the download page?
[19:40] <mpt> yes, that's why I noticed it just now
[19:42] <newz2000> good advice matt, that looks much nicer
[19:57] <mpt> sweet
[19:57] <mpt> Hm, that download location menu shoots off the edge of the white area quite funkily in Gecko
[19:57] <newz2000> yes it does
[19:58] <mpt> And it's all Lund University's fault!
[19:58] <mpt> Well, not entirely
[19:58] <newz2000> I do truncate it
[19:58] <mpt> United States Northeastern University have a lot to answer for, too
[19:59] <newz2000> I'm thinking about switching to just choosing a country
[20:00] <newz2000> yes, random + weighted in favor of reported bandwidth
[20:00] <newz2000> so someone with twice the bandwidth will get aprox twice the traffic
[20:01] <newz2000> mpt: you missed it, I said: so someone with twice the bandwidth will get aprox twice the traffic
[20:05] <mpt> ah cool
[20:06] <mpt> I guess the only downside would be for countries with large dimensions, i.e. Russia, USA, and to some extent Australia
[20:06] <newz2000> USA has good bandwidth throughout the country
[20:06] <mpt> true
[20:06] <newz2000> I don't know about Russia and Australia though
[20:07] <newz2000> Africa is another tricky one as I understand it... there are few mirrors and rules for picking the best are complex
[20:07] <mpt> That sounds like a job for a learning algorithm :-)
[20:07] <newz2000> ah, indeed
[20:08] <mpt> but doing the measurements would require doing dummy downloads every so often
[20:08] <newz2000> well, you could learn from user's choices
[20:09] <newz2000> and gauge success if they don't return for a second attempt
[20:10] <mpt> Oh, I wasn't thinking you would still let them choose
[20:10] <newz2000> oh, I see
[20:11] <mpt> rather choose automatically based on how fast each mirror had been recently for people from that IP block or whatever
[20:12] <mpt> hmm, now I think about it, that would be really quite hard
[20:12] <newz2000> yeah
[20:12] <mpt> unless you have geographically distributed download-testing machines, which is probably overkill  :-)
[20:12] <newz2000> I dn't have that
[20:13] <mpt> ssh timbuktu.canonical.com