=== tuna-fish is now known as tuna [01:04] when I first watch a movie in fullscreen all's ok but if I go out of fullscreen then back to fullscreen xfce4-panel is visible - how can I make that not happen [01:24] does compiz work on xubuntu? [01:24] yep it does [01:24] !compiz [01:24] Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion [01:27] so i was on kubuntu, but i installed and am now using xfce, if i want to switch permanently can i just remove kde or do i need to install xubuntu-desktop and remove kubuntu-desktop and stuff like that? [01:28] !purexfce [01:28] If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » [01:31] thanks favro, you're very helpful [01:31] np :) [01:35] yeah i'm not entirely sure i want to do that juts yet, but just so i know [01:40] hmm i tried to run compiz and it appears to have reverted back to kde [01:40] kwin i mean [01:41] try alt+F2 compiz --replace [01:41] yeah i did [01:42] hi ppl! i just installed xubuntu on my aspire one, and everything is running fine. but this annoying window about my non-open atheros wlan driver keeps popping up, what should I do to enable the drivers and get rid of the window? [01:46] jals: see if this helps - http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/ [01:50] that's the link i was using :( [01:50] i've had issues with compiz in kubuntu [01:50] back when i used gnome it worked fine === ron_o is now known as Gawd === Gawd is now known as ron_o [02:50] if i do remove kubuntu is that likely to improve performance any apart from freeing disk space? [02:57] maybe [03:34] I'd just like to thank you guys for making this Amazing distro way better than the GNOME version im never going back can't wait till 8.10 great work :D [03:38] :) [03:38] day bugs xubuntu :D [03:38] yeah have to say i've only been using a few days but i dig it [04:04] 3C [04:46] how can i kill a process from terminal? [06:01] can I get some help with something someone plz? [07:02] hi! i am running ubuntu 8.04 with the xubuntu-desktop package. when i am in xfce, i have no sound in some apps (like rhythmbox and totem). i tried to "sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart", but no response or success at all. how do i get sound? [07:11] hello, my xubuntu just went crazy, I lost my program lauchers configurations and firefox is acting crazy, please help me [07:20] please help, I dont know what to do [07:25] please help, my xubuntu just went crazy I lost some desktop settings and firefox isnt working right (bookmarks are gone), this just happened for no reason please help [07:26] xfce is not working right too, if i press the quit button now it just says "exit xfce pannel? cancel quit) insteat of the usual [08:36] hey folks, testing alpha 6 here, upgraded a few packages with synaptic, now mouse takes 3 scrolls to go right to left. what controls mouse resolution? === pod_ is now known as pod[away] [08:47] Hi! I am looking forward to use xubuntu as my base distro for a thin client installation. My main purpose it to get everything running within 500 MB. (no open office or other flashy apps, no compiler etc. only firefox). How should i go about it. any suggestions ? [08:50] start with a cli install and just install the packages you want [08:51] zoredache: You mean with mini.iso ? [08:51] i checked with alternate iso there was not cli option ? [08:51] anyone tell me what im doing wrong here? "sudo cp /home/username/Sounds/Borealis /usr/share/sounds" [08:52] I thought there was, but maybe not. I know you can select things in expert mode [08:52] is 'sounds' directory ? if it is, add slash / at the end [08:52] nnull: ^ [08:52] oh ok [08:53] keeps ommiting mirex [08:53] the mini.iso would be fine to... Anyeone instead of installing xubuntu-desktop you'll probably have to install the bits and pieces you want [08:53] oh it would be great, if in Ubuntu installer you could select programs which you want to install ... [08:53] i tried with a / at the end of bor and sounds [08:54] whats ommiting directory mean [08:54] nnull: try only putting it at sounds [08:55] mirex¬ i did :x [08:55] same ommitting directory error [08:55] nnull: is Borealis a file or a directory? [08:55] Directory! [08:56] ? [08:56] cp doesn't copy directories by default... try adding a '-r' [08:56] ah ok [08:57] that worked thankyou :) [08:57] S_A: 500mb should be pretty easy thoug.... the livecd fits on a single cd [08:58] zoredache: I am talking about 500MB space on my flash drive. AFAIK live cd is a compressed one. [08:59] yes, so compress the filesystem on the flashdrive? You mentioned thinclient so I figured you didn't need the enviroment to be persistant [08:59] you cant boot from USB on old p3 600 machines huh? [09:00] if that is the case you basically just need to custimze a live enviroment [09:00] zoredache: I an talking about thin client only which has native firefox and a very lite window manager. [09:01] zoredache: Mt thin client boots from pxe only [09:01] zoredache: I mean this thin cleint boots from pxe only (no USB booting as of now) [09:02] but you should be able to put the files from the livecd onto your nfs/tftp server and boot [09:03] I am almost certain I saw a section in the caspar config about mounting root from a squashfs hosted on a nfs server [09:05] zoredache: hmm. Thanks for the inputs. I am trying now. shall trouble you more as soon as i am stuck [09:28] if I start a video in fullscreen all's ok but if I go out of fullscreen then back to fullscreen xfce-panel is visible - how can I make that not happen? [09:38] [10:05] what is xubuntu like with ati video cards? [10:06] can I use the driver from ati? [10:06] just like in ubuntu proper [10:06] !ati [10:06] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [10:07] dmh65: yep - xubuntu uses the same base as ubuntu [10:07] cool [10:07] it is :) [10:08] life has never been the same after SuSE 9 [10:08] just cannot settle with a distro [10:09] you just need to break your cd drive then :) [10:09] tried to install SuSE 9 and my new pc told me to get lost [10:09] :) [10:17] anyone know what the google logo is for the uk site today? [10:18] uhh? [10:18] thats what I thought [10:18] google.co.uk -> no special logo [10:18] uhh, I have [10:19] ah, its the doodle for google thing [10:20] its the winners effort [10:20] hmnmkay [11:00] if I start a video in fullscreen all's ok but if I go out of fullscreen then back to fullscreen xfce-panel is visible - how can I make that not happen? [11:02] it's hemaroidal [11:07] does anybody know of exploring samba share over the network on xubuntu [11:08] i installed fusesmb but it still doesnt work [11:09] I think it is smb:///path/to/share [11:09] !fusesmb [11:09] fusesmb is a tool that allows easy access to shared folders (smb) on a network. Links with more info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb [11:10] i tired like smb://192.169.4.1:/backup [11:10] i tired like smb://192.169.4.1:/samba/backup [11:10] but it didnt work [11:10] sounds like the path is wrong [11:11] smbclient -L localhost or smbclient -L 192.169.4.1 give session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE [11:11] whats the : after the 1 for ? [11:11] kahnoie: I was doing that two weeks ago. I found some easy how-to, which auto-mounts my network to my /mount/network/ . so whenever I wander through that folder I see whole network. Problem is, that I can browse only non-secured shared directories. [11:12] i find there are some shares i cant get working in Xorg but can with smbclient :s makes me want to make a front end for smbclient [11:12] or sorry that was by mistake [11:12] its not there its 4.1/ [11:12] kahnoie: try some of these: http://www.google.com/search?q=xubuntu+how+to+browse+network [11:15] sudo mount 192.169.4.1:/samba/IT_backup /mnt/IT_backup/ gives an error [11:15] mount.nfs: mount to NFS server 'rpcbind' failed: RPC Error: Program not registered [11:15] mount.nfs: internal error [11:16] i restart the machine and i also tried restarting rpcbind service [11:17] pls reply here mirec [11:19] have you looked through those articles I posted a link to ? [11:19] yes..im going through some of them now... [11:20] the best post is here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131&page=2 but still it didnt help as yet [11:20] so do that now. I think I followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131&highlight=xubuntu [11:21] then, first double check if you did every step correctly [11:21] if it won't work anyhow, then try another of those articles [11:22] ok..thanks..let me try it now [11:26] for step 7 can i add an application like fusesmb 192.169.4.1:/samba/backup (this is the machine im going to mount the folder from) [11:30] what about the ':' ? it should not be ther IMHO [11:31] and step 7 says that you should put there name of your local directory used as mount point [11:31] try to follow exactly each step, and use '/media/network' just as they say. [11:31] ok [12:03] shiney new xubuntu [12:04] it looks good in blue :) [12:04] feels cold :) [12:05] I don't try to feel it up :) [12:05] just getting some updates, 87 of em [12:06] my ubuntu64 does 267 when fresh installed these days [12:06] alot of people work hard to keep it good [12:06] might be time for a new iso maybe.. [12:07] I have dsl so its not too bad [12:07] I found dsl was limited in it's packages - but it works fine [12:08] dsl as in adsl [12:08] ohh [12:08] :) [12:13] not used thunderbird in a while [12:13] it's my only mail client [12:14] mine too now I expect [12:23] surprised xubuntu doesnot use iceweasel actually [12:23] reboot [12:34] I have compiz installed and the ati driver but I dont seem to have effects [12:34] maybe on next boot [12:34] !compiz [12:34] Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion [12:35] never a problem in Ubuntu [12:35] must be something simple [12:49] Hi, I just installed xubuntu on my laptop but I can't change the screen resolution to 1024x768 (stuck in 800x600). I've already checked ubuntu forums but none of the suggestions have worked for me [12:50] does displatconfig-gtk list your monitor? [12:50] you may need sudo [12:52] yes, I want to set it to lcd panel 1024x768 but it always remains as plug & play [12:53] my graphics card is S3 supersavage, it won't show the driver so I went for savage (generic) but it remained the same [12:54] displatconfig-gtk lists monitors - is yours in the list? [12:55] no [12:56] what client do people use in xbuntu for ssh [12:56] gui [12:57] dmh65: ssh doesn't have gui [12:57] dmh65: you can use putty if you really want [12:57] ok [12:58] Sakura: you may need to manually set the resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf [12:58] dmh65: but usually you just open a terminal and type ssh hostname [13:01] under section "screen"? [13:01] yep [13:02] what do I change? [13:02] Sakura: SubSection "Display" [13:02] Depth 24 [13:02] Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" [13:02] EndSubSection [13:02] is what I have [13:02] Sakura: just leave 1024x768 and get rid of the rest [13:03] I don't have any of this [13:03] section "screen" [13:03] identifier "default screen" [13:03] monitor "configured monitor" [13:03] you have to add it with the way X is now [13:04] imo it is less than freindly the way it has evolved [13:05] ok so, where do I write those values? at the beginning of the section or before endsection? [13:05] put your xorg.conf file on pastebin [13:06] yeah thought about it [13:06] lets see what we are dealing with [13:06] you should back it up as well I suppose [13:07] cuz if you mess it up you will have a lovely black or white screen :) [13:07] that would be nice :p [13:08] ok done [13:08] url? [13:09] happened to me lots, I got good at blindly opening a term and going to a folder, deleting the file I messed up and renaming the bkpup [13:09] url? saved a copy on my documents [13:10] thought there was a pastebin coming [13:10] just save as xorg.conf2 [13:11] oh, sorry this is not the laptop i'm working in [13:11] all you have to do is delete and rename if it goes tits up [13:11] save as :) [13:11] ok [13:12] so you still have xorg.conf [13:12] favro, you meant showing here the contents of my xorg.conf? [13:13] yep [13:14] put your xorg.conf file on pastebin [13:14] ok [13:14] just trying to open it [13:14] that was a quote :) [13:14] what editor is installed [13:14] lol [13:15] I'm having a chuckle [13:15] yeah but i have to copy from another computer [13:15] i'm using abiword, is that ok? it was the default [13:15] we know how basic the xorg.conf is so it's not really necessary [13:16] it's no big deal, just give me a min [13:20] favro,dmh65 it's me, i'm connected from the laptop now [13:20] I right click a text file and select open with other other app and select mousepad just to speed things up [13:21] just looked at mine, he is right there are no resolutions [13:21] # xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file) # # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using # values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page. # (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.) # # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* # if it has not been... [13:21] ...modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg # package. # # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated # again, run the following command: # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "es" EndSection ... [13:21] ...Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad" Driver "synaptics" Option "SendCoreEvents" "true" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "Protocol" "auto-dev" Option "HorizEdgeScroll" "0" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Configured Video Device" Driver "vesa"... [13:21] the new way X works there won't be any options listed [13:21] ...EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Configured Monitor" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Monitor "Configured Monitor" Device "Configured Video Device" EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen "Default Screen" InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad" EndSection [13:21] oooh [13:21] !paste [13:21] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [13:21] lol [13:22] Sakura: ^^ [13:22] I have been kicked for less :) [13:22] oops ^^' [13:23] sorry about that [13:23] xubuntu is quieter so more tolerant - I wouldn't do it twice tho [13:23] I just have a lot of the word 'configured' in my xorg.conf , configured where? [13:24] what do you mean? [13:24] the new X is set to configure at every boot - I manually set my xorg.conf so I get the options I want [13:24] same as mine, what video card do you have [13:25] I use a backed up gutsy xorg [13:25] S3 [13:25] is there a driver for it? [13:25] that's via? [13:26] lspci | grep VGA will tell [13:27] yeah it's s3 supersavage IX/C SDR [13:27] via has poor linux support unfortunately [13:27] but it doesn't show on driver options, I was only able to choose a generic s3 savage driver [13:28] http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=s3+supersavage+IX%2FC+SDR+%2Bubuntu&btnG=Google+Search&meta= [13:29] xserver-xorg-video-savage [13:30] sudo apt-get install [13:30] go for it [13:30] or it might be there already [13:31] sakura what you doing [13:32] I tried before with sudo apt-get install s3-settings [13:32] it was a suggestion on the forum with a similar problem [13:32] sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-savage [13:33] see what happens [13:33] it says it is already the newest version [13:33] ok [13:33] just needs to be configured then [13:33] on xorg.conf? [13:34] doesnt look like [13:34] Default Screen" Monitor"Configured Monitor" Device"Configured Video Device" [13:35] but where? [13:35] what do you mean 'where' [13:35] do a ls in the X11 folder [13:35] exactly, where? [13:37] ls? [13:37] maybe running sudo displayconfig-gtk will help? :) [13:37] and then setting the right settings there [13:38] thanks thesheep, that was the first thing I tried but it didn't work [13:38] the monitor isn't listed [13:39] how can I do ls? [13:39] sakura ls shows what files are in the folder [13:39] like dir in windows [13:40] iknow, I remember it was like DOS but i can't get to it [13:40] in a term that is [13:40] cd /etc/X11 [13:40] ls [13:40] ls -a will show hidden files [13:41] that's what I'm doing but it says no such file or directory [13:41] not x11 [13:41] X11 [13:42] d'oh ¬¬' [13:42] :) [13:42] probably a red herring [13:42] I expect you need to find where the driver is [13:44] joy heh! [13:44] heh [13:45] http://paste.ubuntu.com/52830/ [13:45] you could try to uninstall the driver, boot and then install again etc [13:46] just in case, i didn't install any driver to begin with [13:46] those were my defaults [13:47] did you backup those xorg.confs? [13:48] yes, but I haven't done any changes to it yet [13:50] I didn't understand at all where was I supposed to set the values that favro said [13:50] he had something else in mind [13:50] in the screen section - just make a new line [13:52] right under section? or it does't matter if it's the first or third line of the section? [13:52] Mode "1024x768" [13:52] hangon [13:53] if it's not too much asking, could I get a pastebin of the way the section is supposed to look like? [13:54] sure [13:54] http://vinux.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/xorgconf.png [13:54] thanks [13:54] Modes "1024x768" [13:55] ok [13:56] should prove to be a disaster :) [13:56] I see I have no data for depth and display [13:56] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/52836/ [13:56] put depth as well then [13:57] depth 24? [13:58] safer at 16 [13:58] :) [13:58] ok [13:59] this is what I've done http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/52838/ [13:59] looks alright [14:00] dont forget to save [14:00] Writing error when attempting to save /etc/X11/xorg.conf [14:00] your not root [14:00] :) [14:00] you need to use an editor not abiword [14:00] oh right [14:01] how do I open it as root? [14:01] su gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf or whatever [14:01] what editor is installed in xubuntu? [14:02] I only installed a few hours ago [14:02] Mousepad [14:02] mousepad? [14:02] yeah [14:02] So "sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf" [14:06] ok done. reboot? [14:07] go for it :) [14:07] ctrl+alt+bkspace is all that is neede [14:07] *d === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [14:08] Too late xD [14:08] looks like he has gone for the boot, wont do any harm :) [14:08] I tried :) [14:08] I already knew that:p [14:08] me too [14:08] hehe [14:09] now there's a window saying "ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode" [14:09] your screen and graphics card could not be detected correctly :( [14:09] looks like what you added is conflicting somewhere [14:10] "to use higher resolutions, visual effects of multiple screens, you have to configure the display yourself" [14:10] what did you end up with in xorg.conf? - I missed that [14:10] isn't it what i've been trying to do all this time? ¬¬' [14:10] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/52838/ [14:10] yep [14:10] try the screen rez in settings now [14:11] Device "Configured Video Device" [14:11] but where? [14:11] something's been bothering me, no matter what I do changing screen and graphics card settings, they won't change at all [14:12] thats what you need to find [14:12] let me see if I can find mine [14:13] I think you need to name the driver to be used [14:13] in device [14:14] like, Device "S3 whatever blah blah"? [14:14] run this sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg [14:17] look at this https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-October/127842.html [14:17] Device "S3 Inc. SuperSavage IX/C SDR" [14:18] ok [14:18] copy the section screen but just put 1024x768 [14:19] if that fails then retore a backup [14:19] I think your almost there [14:20] hey my xorg.conf now looks like If such changes never took place [14:21] is it possible it reverted at startup? [14:21] is that because you ran that command [14:22] which command? [14:23] sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg [14:23] lol maybe, no idea [14:23] if you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg it will revert to having nothing listed for any options [14:24] try it now, see if you get a chance to add some details [14:24] I will try it in mine [14:24] yes I did [14:24] well I added the screen res, depth and now the device [14:24] well it restored it [14:24] i see [14:24] ok, make sure you save [14:25] ok here I go again [14:25] and back it up [14:26] trying mine [14:26] hi, i have a kubuntu setup but have been testing out xfce lately, but for some reason this morning whenever i attempt to login to xfce it crashes back to KDM [14:26] only thing i can think i've changed is plugging in a new usb keyboard [14:28] alors c'est bon? [14:29] snif, non [14:29] lol [14:29] what happened [14:29] nothing [14:29] same old, same old [14:29] low graphics still? [14:30] yes [14:30] just restore one of the backup files [14:30] its annoying heh [14:31] has the laptop had its good rez with any other distros? [14:31] it's the first distro I'm trying [14:32] Sakura: can you paste the xorg.conf that was closest to working? [14:32] !paste [14:32] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [14:32] some time ago I installed kubuntu with wubi but I was unable to configure my belkin wireless card so I uninstalled it [14:34] http://paste.ubuntu.com/52847/ [14:34] I would take a look here also for a_driver.so /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ [14:36] there's an s3_drv.so and savage_drv.so [14:36] not sure if you can look at them [14:37]