| edubuntufan | Hello, are many users on? | 03:09 |
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| edubuntufan | Hi..does anyone have a tutorial on getting old iMacs to boot off of the LTSP? | 03:11 |
| edubuntufan | hi all | 03:18 |
| edubuntufan | not very active tonight? | 03:18 |
| kaingeo | My Ubuntu 8.04 LTSP installation is freezing (screen freezes but mouse moving) is it normal from time to time? | 10:29 |
| kaingeo | The kernel message is: [ 1454.088037] NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out | 10:30 |
| amanulla | hiiiiii | 13:29 |
| amanulla | is there any usb version for ubuntu with in 500 mb | 13:29 |
| Shindig | Anyone have any experience in a large scale edubuntu desktop deployment.. I am currently looking to deploy a few hundered in the school district to start | 15:51 |
| sbalneav | Shindig: I don't deploy edubuntu itself, but I do deploy Ubuntu + ltsp for 185 desktops. | 15:52 |
| Shindig | sbalneav: what is the best way to manage that many machines.. i need to lock them down and not give kids access to everything? | 15:56 |
| sbalneav | Are you planning on deploying full desktops, or thin clients? | 15:56 |
| Shindig | Full desktops | 15:56 |
| Shindig | i am a mix of apple, windows and hopefull soon linux...with AD and apples OD | 15:57 |
| Shindig | try to use most of are window machines that will not run vista and putting Linux on them | 15:58 |
| Shindig | New machine are Apple now a days | 15:58 |
| sbalneav | Well, simplest will be to use a mixture of Sabayon and some gconf trickery to bolt down the desktops | 15:58 |
| Shindig | anyways the over all Goal is to get out of the Microsoft school agreemnet | 15:59 |
| sbalneav | heh, free incentives are over, now the bill's come due? :) | 15:59 |
| sbalneav | Where I work, we ran into that years ago, we've been a 100% linux shop since 2001 | 16:00 |
| Shindig | lol the cost keeps going up and truly when you are in a school argreemnet you have to pay per desktop no matter what the OS is | 16:00 |
| Shindig | see the las 3000 machine have all been apple that just donst fit anymore | 16:01 |
| sbalneav | heh | 16:01 |
| Shindig | but i have been playing with Sabayon and gconf but is there a way to mange it in one place for a gobal config for all desktops or does it have to be managed from each machine? | 16:02 |
| Shindig | I have an 11:00am meeting that i am running late for but i will be back in like 30 min | 16:03 |
| sbalneav | Shindig: Well, with sabayon... | 16:03 |
| sbalneav | ok, I'll be here when you get back. | 16:03 |
| Shindig | appreciate any help in advance :) sorry lost track of time but i will brb | 16:04 |
| stgraber | sbalneav: hey, do you have a second to tell me how's LDM autologin working ? (or point me to some docs) | 16:11 |
| stgraber | I'd like to merge our own autologin with ldm's as I did for the ldm screen.d script (basically ldm-cluster calls ldm with some extra variables) | 16:12 |
| sbalneav | stgraber: I think it's documented fairly well in the ltsp-docs branch up on lp | 16:13 |
| sbalneav | It's pretty much just a case of setting LDM_USERNAME and LDM_PASSWORD | 16:13 |
| stgraber | sbalneav: can I use login+ssh-key ? | 16:14 |
| sbalneav | vagratc added some fancy code to allow for a guest login button | 16:14 |
| sbalneav | I think so. | 16:14 |
| stgraber | we call a daemon that generates a temporary account then use it to login | 16:14 |
| sbalneav | that was something Gadi added | 16:14 |
| cosf | help in LTSP | 17:02 |
| sbalneav | cosf: What do you need? | 17:15 |
| sbalneav | cosf: Hello? | 17:20 |
| edubuntufan | hello | 17:21 |
| edubuntufan | anyone on right now? | 17:22 |
| sbalneav | Yup | 17:22 |
| edubuntufan | nice | 17:22 |
| edubuntufan | I am an educator that has a thin client lab up, has anyone heard of how we can set up old iMACS to act as etrminal machines? | 17:22 |
| sbalneav | The infrastructure's there in LTSP to allow for imac clients. | 17:23 |
| nubae | sbalneav: do u know if the lxde window manager will work in a thin client environment? | 17:24 |
| edubuntufan | so it is already set up to use iMacs? | 17:24 |
| edubuntufan | it can use the powerpc chip without more programming? | 17:24 |
| sbalneav | edubuntufan: You'd have to install ubuntu/edubuntu on an imac to build the chroot environment, though. | 17:25 |
| edubuntufan | I am using this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPCrossArchSetup, but my server has no /etc/exports file | 17:26 |
| edubuntufan | even tho my edubuntu thin client lab is working, do I still need to do the first step and sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone openssh-server to get that file? | 17:27 |
| sbalneav | Hold on, lemme check and see if they've got ppc cd's for download... | 17:28 |
| edubuntufan | I already have xubuntu installed on an imac | 17:29 |
| sbalneav | ok, then you should be able to just install the ltsp-server-standalone packages, and do an ltsp-build-client. | 17:31 |
| edubuntufan | do I install it on the imac then? | 17:31 |
| sbalneav | you'll have to copy in the sshkeys from the server you actually want to host the images at. | 17:31 |
| sbalneav | yup | 17:31 |
| sbalneav | because you'll have to build an image there. | 17:31 |
| sbalneav | you can't build the ppc image on i386 hardware :) | 17:32 |
| edubuntufan | brb | 17:33 |
| highvoltage | howdy sbalneav | 17:33 |
| sbalneav | hey highvoltage | 17:37 |
| edubuntufan | Right now I have edubuntu/ltsp on an i386 machine and xubunut/ppc-version on an imac. ON the imac I run sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone openssh-serve and then I do an ltsp-build client? is that right? | 17:37 |
| sbalneav | yup | 17:37 |
| edubuntufan | once the client is built does following this tutorial explain what to do? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPCrossArchSetup | 17:38 |
| sbalneav | there'll be some more work after that, but that's good to go on | 17:38 |
| edubuntufan | is there an online tutorial? | 17:38 |
| sbalneav | yeah, that page should get you most of the way there | 17:38 |
| edubuntufan | do I need to install anything on my server? | 17:39 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: you were(or maybe still are) working on an ltsp manual. where is that? | 17:39 |
| sbalneav | no, but you might need to fiddle with your dhcpd.conf file | 17:39 |
| highvoltage | I was looking for it a while back but couldn't find it. | 17:39 |
| sbalneav | highvoltage: on the docs.edubuntu.org site | 17:39 |
| sbalneav | 1 sec | 17:39 |
| sbalneav | http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/ | 17:40 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: thanks | 17:40 |
| edubuntufan | yeah, the tutorial says, "Note that powerpc clients need some special options in the servers dhcp setup. " but there is no link for additional information. | 17:41 |
| ogra | http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/dhcpd.conf | 17:42 |
| ogra | use that | 17:42 |
| edubuntufan | As I am doing this I am creaing a squidoo page/tutorial. I hope to have a location that shows schools how to set this up like me and use all types of hardware. | 17:42 |
| edubuntufan | our school alone has 50 iMACs from days long past. | 17:42 |
| edubuntufan | as well as old intel based machines. | 17:42 |
| edubuntufan | oo thanks ogra...that is the dhcp3-server conf file on the server, right? | 17:43 |
| sbalneav | ogra: Added your dhcpd.conf to the bottom of the page | 17:44 |
| ogra | in /etc/ltsp on the server, yes | 17:44 |
| ogra | sbalneav, thanks | 17:44 |
| edubuntufan | thank you sbalneav and ogra... | 17:44 |
| sbalneav | NP | 17:45 |
| edubuntufan | my tutorial says that before I build the powerpc that I need to edit the exports file on the server to "/opt/ltsp *(rw,no_root_squash,async)" | 17:45 |
| edubuntufan | however, there is no "/etc/exports" file on the server... | 17:46 |
| edubuntufan | can I skip that step or even tho I my server is operational, do I need to "sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone openssh-server"? | 17:46 |
| nubae | sbalneav: did ever do that merge of changes u wanted to the ltsp manual in launchpad? | 17:47 |
| sbalneav | Not yet, been swamped with Hardy updates here at work. | 17:49 |
| sbalneav | I'll try to get to it tomorrow | 17:49 |
| nubae | cool, hardy bug fixes are indeed more important :-) | 17:50 |
| edubuntufan | Last question before I go tincker while I work, when I have built the powerpc image and configured the DHCP file, how do I get the imac to boot off of PXE? Hold down C? | 17:51 |
| * ogra thinks it was n | 17:51 | |
| ogra | but its two years ago that i touched my last ppc | 17:51 |
| ogra | apple+n | 17:51 |
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