[03:09] Hello, are many users on? [03:11] Hi..does anyone have a tutorial on getting old iMacs to boot off of the LTSP? [03:18] hi all [03:18] not very active tonight? [10:29] My Ubuntu 8.04 LTSP installation is freezing (screen freezes but mouse moving) is it normal from time to time? [10:30] The kernel message is: [ 1454.088037] NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out [13:29] hiiiiii [13:29] is there any usb version for ubuntu with in 500 mb [15:51] Anyone have any experience in a large scale edubuntu desktop deployment.. I am currently looking to deploy a few hundered in the school district to start [15:52] Shindig: I don't deploy edubuntu itself, but I do deploy Ubuntu + ltsp for 185 desktops. [15:56] sbalneav: what is the best way to manage that many machines.. i need to lock them down and not give kids access to everything? [15:56] Are you planning on deploying full desktops, or thin clients? [15:56] Full desktops [15:57] i am a mix of apple, windows and hopefull soon linux...with AD and apples OD [15:58] try to use most of are window machines that will not run vista and putting Linux on them [15:58] New machine are Apple now a days [15:58] Well, simplest will be to use a mixture of Sabayon and some gconf trickery to bolt down the desktops [15:59] anyways the over all Goal is to get out of the Microsoft school agreemnet [15:59] heh, free incentives are over, now the bill's come due? :) [16:00] Where I work, we ran into that years ago, we've been a 100% linux shop since 2001 [16:00] lol the cost keeps going up and truly when you are in a school argreemnet you have to pay per desktop no matter what the OS is [16:01] see the las 3000 machine have all been apple that just donst fit anymore [16:01] heh [16:02] but i have been playing with Sabayon and gconf but is there a way to mange it in one place for a gobal config for all desktops or does it have to be managed from each machine? [16:03] I have an 11:00am meeting that i am running late for but i will be back in like 30 min [16:03] Shindig: Well, with sabayon... [16:03] ok, I'll be here when you get back. [16:04] appreciate any help in advance :) sorry lost track of time but i will brb [16:11] sbalneav: hey, do you have a second to tell me how's LDM autologin working ? (or point me to some docs) [16:12] I'd like to merge our own autologin with ldm's as I did for the ldm screen.d script (basically ldm-cluster calls ldm with some extra variables) [16:13] stgraber: I think it's documented fairly well in the ltsp-docs branch up on lp [16:13] It's pretty much just a case of setting LDM_USERNAME and LDM_PASSWORD [16:14] sbalneav: can I use login+ssh-key ? [16:14] vagratc added some fancy code to allow for a guest login button [16:14] I think so. [16:14] we call a daemon that generates a temporary account then use it to login [16:14] that was something Gadi added [17:02] help in LTSP [17:15] cosf: What do you need? [17:20] cosf: Hello? [17:21] hello [17:22] anyone on right now? [17:22] Yup [17:22] nice [17:22] I am an educator that has a thin client lab up, has anyone heard of how we can set up old iMACS to act as etrminal machines? [17:23] The infrastructure's there in LTSP to allow for imac clients. [17:24] sbalneav: do u know if the lxde window manager will work in a thin client environment? [17:24] so it is already set up to use iMacs? [17:24] it can use the powerpc chip without more programming? [17:25] edubuntufan: You'd have to install ubuntu/edubuntu on an imac to build the chroot environment, though. [17:26] I am using this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPCrossArchSetup, but my server has no /etc/exports file [17:27] even tho my edubuntu thin client lab is working, do I still need to do the first step and sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone openssh-server to get that file? [17:28] Hold on, lemme check and see if they've got ppc cd's for download... [17:29] I already have xubuntu installed on an imac [17:31] ok, then you should be able to just install the ltsp-server-standalone packages, and do an ltsp-build-client. [17:31] do I install it on the imac then? [17:31] you'll have to copy in the sshkeys from the server you actually want to host the images at. [17:31] yup [17:31] because you'll have to build an image there. [17:32] you can't build the ppc image on i386 hardware :) [17:33] brb [17:33] howdy sbalneav [17:37] hey highvoltage [17:37] Right now I have edubuntu/ltsp on an i386 machine and xubunut/ppc-version on an imac. ON the imac I run sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone openssh-serve and then I do an ltsp-build client? is that right? [17:37] yup [17:38] once the client is built does following this tutorial explain what to do? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPCrossArchSetup [17:38] there'll be some more work after that, but that's good to go on [17:38] is there an online tutorial? [17:38] yeah, that page should get you most of the way there [17:39] do I need to install anything on my server? [17:39] sbalneav: you were(or maybe still are) working on an ltsp manual. where is that? [17:39] no, but you might need to fiddle with your dhcpd.conf file [17:39] I was looking for it a while back but couldn't find it. [17:39] highvoltage: on the docs.edubuntu.org site [17:39] 1 sec [17:40] http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/ [17:40] sbalneav: thanks [17:41] yeah, the tutorial says, "Note that powerpc clients need some special options in the servers dhcp setup. " but there is no link for additional information. [17:42] http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/dhcpd.conf [17:42] use that [17:42] As I am doing this I am creaing a squidoo page/tutorial. I hope to have a location that shows schools how to set this up like me and use all types of hardware. [17:42] our school alone has 50 iMACs from days long past. [17:42] as well as old intel based machines. [17:43] oo thanks ogra...that is the dhcp3-server conf file on the server, right? [17:44] ogra: Added your dhcpd.conf to the bottom of the page [17:44] in /etc/ltsp on the server, yes [17:44] sbalneav, thanks [17:44] thank you sbalneav and ogra... [17:45] NP [17:45] my tutorial says that before I build the powerpc that I need to edit the exports file on the server to "/opt/ltsp *(rw,no_root_squash,async)" [17:46] however, there is no "/etc/exports" file on the server... [17:46] can I skip that step or even tho I my server is operational, do I need to "sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone openssh-server"? [17:47] sbalneav: did ever do that merge of changes u wanted to the ltsp manual in launchpad? [17:49] Not yet, been swamped with Hardy updates here at work. [17:49] I'll try to get to it tomorrow [17:50] cool, hardy bug fixes are indeed more important :-) [17:51] Last question before I go tincker while I work, when I have built the powerpc image and configured the DHCP file, how do I get the imac to boot off of PXE? Hold down C? [17:51] * ogra thinks it was n [17:51] but its two years ago that i touched my last ppc [17:51] apple+n