[00:00] sudo lsmod | grep b43 [00:00] emm? wtf is that (also what is lsusb and lsmod??) [00:00] ok, the sudo part gives you root permissions, you can try it without it but lsmod lists the modules that are loaded in the kernel so that may need root [00:01] the | grep just searches through the output for the sting b43 which is a broadcom module :) [00:01] i am having trouble connecting to the internet [00:01] i am told that a network address should be acquired automatically, but I can get no connectivity at all [00:01] lsusd lists all usb devices plugged just like lspci :) [00:02] NameAlreadyInUse: wireless or wired? [00:02] gm04030276: b43? [00:02] gm: wired [00:02] NikLP: yea, b43 is a broadcom module for using broadcom wireless cards...it may not be the only one though...only one ive seen though [00:03] gm04030276: that command just kicks into pw then nothing :/ [00:03] gm: i am connecting through a router, not directly, by the way [00:03] If it's a B43... [00:03] Becareful.. [00:04] no results [00:04] Mine freezes when I use flash. [00:04] NameAlreadyInUse: ok, i'll assume connected to a router...have you configured it to be dhcp server? [00:04] Tried both NDISwrapper and FWcutter. [00:04] rfcomm is the nearest thing I see to *anything* related to comms vis lsmod [00:04] gm: yes, but kubuntu refuses to acquire [00:05] gm: i will set it to acquire an address automatically by dhcp, but nothing seems to happen, and the settings will not be applied the next time i open network settings [00:05] NameAlreadyInUse: cat /etc/network/interfaces and put it on pastebin [00:05] !pastebin [00:05] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) [00:06] gm: alright, one second [00:06] !wireless [00:06] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [00:06] NikLP: have a look at some of that stuff? [00:06] the wifi docs? [00:07] NikLP: Is your card just not showing up in KNetworkManager? It should be in the bar at the bottom on the right. [00:08] OH! :) [00:08] NikLP: get it? [00:09] gm04030276: looking good :) got message from kde wallet service tho? [00:09] gm: here is the paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/53005/ [00:09] just enter pw etc? [00:09] yea [00:10] gm04030276: I love you :p [00:10] wireless!! [00:10] ping ftw, btw :p [00:10] NikLP: woow steady now! lol [00:10] * NikLP dances a wee jig :p [00:10] thats good :) [00:10] lol [00:10] it is [00:10] NameAlreadyInUse: is that all the output? [00:10] 4 lines? [00:10] never before seen...! many live cds, no wireless :) [00:11] ok I'm much happier now - good video, good tinternetz. all good. [00:11] now learning the os :p [00:11] :D [00:11] eek [00:11] yip! first time with linux? [00:12] Linux can be strange at times [00:12] I'm a web dev, so actually I do a lot of stuff in shell, so I'm not uncomfortable as I *could* be, but... this is scary shit. [00:12] but its really fun when you get 3 years down the line and realise your finally good enough to help other people :) [00:12] "at times" - understatement of the century :p [00:12] I remember ye olde doswhen I was younger. [00:12] yeah that's cool :) I still can help people, just not with admin :p [00:12] gm: yes that is all of it [00:13] (sorry for delayed reply) [00:13] I was *trying* to learn unix in 96 when I started building websites - the reticence of the uni meant I got taught Dos 5 for my networking module however. rather a stumbling block, imho. [00:13] earliest i remember was win 95. Was on windows until 4 years ago...then got a mac cause i was doing music technology...and then i broke it one day, started learning command line and eventually came to linux :)...but aaaaaaaanyway [00:14] so technically I have been using shell for about 12-13 years :p [00:14] does anyone in here know much about x11vnc? [00:14] eep [00:14] Heh [00:14] I remember hacking my class's macintosh. [00:14] NameAlreadyInUse: ok, add the lines auto eth0 and iface eth0 inet dhcp [00:15] gm04030276: so how the hell do I go about a) updating the kernel/os b) installing skype c) installing lamp d) securing lamp e) using lamp? :) :) [00:15] Just memorized the password my teacher typed in. [00:15] f) using win equivs :p [00:15] When does kubuntu 8.10 come out? [00:15] ryans: mac's are sooo easy! root shell from holding apple+s at boot! :) [00:15] I hacked mac prefect once :p [00:15] gm: ah, how do i add to that? i am very new [00:16] !ot [00:16] #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [00:16] used to have to get on the mac, install this prog, hack the extension, reboot, install perl and machttp, code, then remove the apps, unhack the extension, reboot! :p [00:16] Mehehehe [00:16] Daisuke_Ido: noted, but :p anyway ;) [00:16] NikLP: filp!! right...well i know most of it...i do alot of web stuff myself...but i like making web based systems rather than websites :) anyway.. [00:16] I am evil homer! [00:16] * NikLP dances with maracas ;) [00:16] ryans: quality :) [00:17] NikLP: sudo aptitude install apache2 mysql-server mysql-client php5 php5-cli php5-cgi [00:17] jeeeeeeeez :p [00:17] gm04030276: how about thru the gui? [00:17] NikLP: and then some other things...i normally actually do it through adept manager cause its easier to see allll the ones you want :) [00:17] which is? [00:17] yea, K > System > Adept MAnager [00:18] you speak deh forayn to me :p [00:18] I'm having a problem with x11vnc, when I have multiple sessions open I can only connect to the one currently on the physical screen. I heard from somewhere you could connect to sessions that where not currently on screen, but all I get is a black screen... === karl is now known as karl_s [00:18] NikLP: lol! it's been sooo long sincce i've done it [00:18] Mmm, still gotta figure out this system bug. [00:18] gm04030276: bloody cli snob! ;) [00:18] NikLP: not really...i mean ages since i've installed lamp! [00:19] NikLP: though i would normally use the command line these days :)...let me have a wee look [00:19] gm04030276: where ARE you exactly? [00:20] gm04030276: what's a "general update" command? [00:20] sudo apt-get update? [00:20] NikLP: My bedroom, town, city, NI, UK [00:20] NikLP:...um idk! [00:20] idk? [00:21] NI? ireland? [00:21] I don't know [00:21] yea, northern ireland [00:21] someone mentioned it earlier [00:21] top of the morning chief :p [00:21] s/of/o\'/g :P [00:21] thats england...! [00:21] I'm in nottingham you clown :p [00:21] haha! [00:21] oh right [00:21] ;) [00:21] fair enough [00:22] that command I put, works - but I don't know what it did :p [00:22] just "reads" stuff [00:22] anyway...you will want to install libapache2-mod-php5 to get php to work with apache [00:22] o rly? :P [00:23] howzat then? [00:23] gm: how do i add those lines to /etc/network/interfaces, can i open it in an editor? [00:23] gm04030276: you using synergy? I would really like to get that working [00:23] K menu (bottom left) -> System -> Adept Manger [00:23] ah, ok [00:23] Nope, what is it? [00:23] thanks [00:24] sorry NameAlreadyInUse, that was for NikLP [00:24] oh sudo spt-get install synergy works :) no idea if that means I can use it now :) [00:24] how the hell do I "run" it tho? [00:24] NameAlreadyInUse: You can use sudo pico /etc/network/interfaces [00:25] NikLP: oooyes i have heard of synergy...i think...if it has a mac version then yes, i attempted to use it once upon a time [00:25] yeah it's total cross-os [00:25] how do I run stuff I install tho? it didn't appear in the k menu at all [00:26] NikLP: emm, you could try running synergy from the command line or from alt-F2 [00:26] i am in the Adept Manager, but i can not see it listed =\ [00:26] tried, nada [00:27] NikLP: try here? http://www.linux.com/feature/54628 [00:27] NameAlreadyInUse: pico is already installed by default [00:28] ah good call, reading [00:29] so i should search for pico? i am having trouble understanding how to find /etc/network/interfaces in the Adept Manager [00:29] NameAlreadyInUse: no i meant adept manager for niklp, you need to go to konsole and type sudo pico /etc/network/interfaces and then add those two lines. [00:29] how do you type these characters with a spanish keyboard layout in kde? \ | @ # [00:29] gm: oh right, heh, that makes it easier [00:30] NameAlreadyInUse: lol, sorry [00:38] NameAlreadyInUse: did you do that yet? [00:38] gm: yes, i have done that [00:39] it has automatically acquired an address, but i am not sure it is right [00:39] ok, next you have to restart your networking to reload the config so in the konsole type: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart [00:39] ah [00:40] duckx0r:AltGr+1,2,3 and upper left [00:40] what button is AltGr? [00:41] right alt? [00:41] gm: it has reset to what it was previously [00:41] right to the space [00:41] ahhh perfect. thanks nejode [00:41] NAIU: back to the 4 lines? [00:41] yup [00:42] did you try configuring it through system settings from the K menu [00:42] yeah [00:42] well i restarted after i made the changes at first [00:42] and it changed, but still did not work [00:42] what is the output of ifconfig? [00:43] quite a few lines [00:43] there was a hardware entry before [00:43] lol [00:43] what interfaces does it mention? [00:43] but that went after i entered the restart command [00:43] eth0? [00:44] it doesn't now [00:44] but it did before [00:44] (after i made the changes to /etc/network/interfaces and restarted) [00:44] restarted the computer, i mean [00:45] you don't need to restart the computer to reconfigure networking [00:45] but anyway [00:45] NameAlreadyInUse: why don't you paste the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces to take a look at it [00:46] http://paste.ubuntu.com/53005/ [00:46] that is what it is currently [00:46] it changed back to that after restarting? [00:46] after " sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" [00:47] NameAlreadyInUse: you sure you saved the file after editing it? [00:47] yea, thats the only think i can think of! [00:47] between restarting the computer and typing " sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" [00:47] the changes were still there [00:47] and the file had been saved, i did check [00:48] ok, good. [00:48] but i might have missed something (try to imagine your first day with linux, and that is me) [00:49] flip...don't even remember that day! i remember having to sit up for a whole night and click ok for each and every fedora update! :) and sitting in college using a live disc on my little ppc mac :) [00:49] anyway [00:49] should i add those two lines to interfaces again, and then do "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"? [00:50] yea. [00:50] Hello, when I use the screen command, my scrollbars dissapear from the console, how would I scroll up and down? [00:50] try it again [00:50] !backtrack [00:50] Sorry, I don't know anything about backtrack [00:50] NameAlreadyInUse: it should look something like this> http://paste.ubuntu.com/53015/ [00:50] serge: try shift+pageup [00:50] can someone tell me where to get help for backtrack? [00:50] nejode: ah, i remove the netmask and address lines? [00:50] shift+pageup doesn't seem to work [00:51] serge: maybe control-c ? [00:51] NameAlreadyInUse: are you in KDE? [00:51] control c just makes the next line in bash, another blank $ [00:51] nejode: yes [00:52] ctrl+c stops the running command [00:52] OK, let's go step-by-step [00:52] yes but not the 'screen' command [00:52] 1) press Alt+F2 [00:52] favro: im working on the "screen command" part that he said. === Cannoli is now known as tahir [00:53] `screen` allows you to have several virtual consoles in one, they behave in a very similar way to regular consoles.. except for the scrolling part [00:53] nejode: ok, one sec [00:54] ok, yes [00:54] that is run? [00:54] 2) type kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces [00:54] 3) enter your password [00:54] NameAlreadyInUse: i hope nejode gets it sorted for you! I'm away to bed! tty all tomorrow! :) [00:55] ok, thanks for all the help gm [00:55] np [00:55] nejode: i have edited the /etc/network/interfaces to show what you linked [00:55] beforehand [00:56] ...no, type it in the run box [00:56] http://paste.ubuntu.com/53015/ [00:56] i mean that [00:57] so that is what cat /etc/network/interfaces shows at the moment [00:57] do you have kate opened with the interfaces file? [00:57] ok, i will do that [00:58] yes, done [00:58] you have the file opened in the kate editor [00:58] ?? [00:59] yup [00:59] erase the content and paste what I pasted in http://paste.ubuntu.com/53015/ [00:59] ok, that is what i have [01:00] exactly? [01:00] does it matter if there is an extra newline in the center? [01:01] why don't you paste your file back to me to see [01:01] http://paste.ubuntu.com/53018/ === stevie is now known as vorian [01:03] gm04030276: let me know before you crash out - synergy is installed but... not playing : [01:03] :p [01:03] OK, now in console> sudo ifdown eth0 [01:04] ok, one moment [01:04] ok, that is done [01:05] what was the output? [01:08] it mentioned an old PID file with pid 6363, that has been killed and discarded [01:08] then says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/53022/ [01:11] now: sudo ifup eth0 [01:11] how do I find out which package a file belongs too? [01:12] nejode: it says the same thing, but has some DHCPDISCOVER messages [01:12] now: No DHCPOFFERS received [01:13] "no working leases in persistent database - sleeping." [01:13] you sure that router is OK? that message says that there's no dhcp server working [01:14] well, it depends on what you mean by OK [01:14] i am using it to connect with this computer, and i have made sure it has DHCP enabled [01:15] and the DHCP seems to work with other computers [01:15] let's try to figure out this... do you know the address of your router? [01:15] 10.1.1.1 [01:15] can you ping that address? [01:16] no [01:16] i get "destination host unreachable" messages [01:17] ok, maybe your network card isn't eth0 [01:17] try this in konsole: dmesg | grep eth [01:18] yes, i get maybe 10 lines with that [01:18] eth0 or eth1? [01:19] eth0 [01:19] strange... did tou try with another cable? [01:20] there are two compatible inputs, but the other does not work [01:20] there is nothing wrong with the cable, i have used it before and it is fine [01:20] so i am not sure what else it could be [01:22] any idea when kde 4.1 will make it to kubuntu ? [01:22] if it matters there was another computer recently hooked up to that cable [01:23] and what happens if you do a "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" [01:23] i will try now, one moment [01:24] NameAlreadyInUse, paste the dmesg output in pastebin so we can have a look [01:24] !pastebin [01:24] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) [01:25] nejode: i get essentially the same thing as with the ifup, some DHCPDISCOVER messages and then no DHCPOFFER [01:25] BluesKaj: the output of dmesg | grep eth? [01:25] yes [01:26] one moment [01:27] I can't mount a usb hard drive on my desktop , that I can on my eeepc. What's going on? [01:28] tim, look in system menu /storage media [01:30] uh, I don't see a storage media in system menu, but it doesn't even appear under sudo fdisk -l so... [01:32] good evening all i am having a problem with a hard drive i installed as a storage unit [01:33] tim, not the kmenu , the system menu , it's a pc icon usually in the panel [01:33] i want to use it to store my music files on but when i try to move files to it i get a You do not have permission to do this type error [01:33] BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/53026/ [01:33] o yea that, it doesn't show up in it [01:34] there are numbers to the left but it is difficult enough to remember as it is [01:34] i think i may have messed up installing it and mounting it and would like to uninstall harddrive and do it again [01:35] NameAlreadyInUse: your network card is down [01:35] nejode: well that would explain it [01:35] nejode: any idea on what i would have to do to fix it? [01:36] probably because when the kernel was booting the cable was loose [01:36] yes, it was now that i think about it [01:37] I had a similar problem today installing SmoothWall router [01:37] so what are my options? [01:37] and I had to reboot with the cable well pluged in [01:38] so i should restart and make sure that the cable is well plugged in? [01:38] and dmesg said "eth0 link up"... everything worked fine afterwards [01:38] i will give this a try === jk_ is now known as jk4930 [01:39] NameAlreadyInUse, yes, nejode is prolly correct [01:39] I'll stand by to see [01:39] so... adept. there are 192 possible updates - how do i initiate this? [01:40] ahy alguien k me pueda ayudar?? [01:40] !es | javier [01:40] javier: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [01:41] plz say English [01:41] ¿? [01:41] estoy recien estrando al mundo inux [01:42] asike no entiendo muxo de esto [01:42] nejode: nope, more link down in dmesg [01:42] NikLP, adept notifier is telling you to update if you wish , click on it [01:42] !pt | javier [01:42] javier: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado. [01:42] nejode: i made sure it was well plugged in at both ends, so i do not think that is the issue [01:42] BluesKaj: can't see anywhere appropriate to click, actually :/ [01:43] oh apply changes in the menu seems to be the cure :) [01:43] the notifier in the panel [01:43] ...with the lik down you0ll never get a connection :-( [01:43] BluesKaj: I saught the updates manually in the interface - not to worry have found it now :) thanks :) [01:43] right NikLP [01:43] nejode: but that definitely confirms that the issue has something to do with the network device? [01:43] and not, say, the router? [01:44] It should be hardware related [01:44] hmm [01:44] does it matter that the cable was unplugged when installing? [01:44] you need phisical connection with the dhcp server to be able to get a lease [01:45] negative [01:45] definitely HW related, NameAlreadyInUse ...check system settings /network connections and take alook [01:45] what would i be looking for? [01:46] every boot, the kernel examines the hardware and loads the necesary modules [01:46] nothing seems to be out of place in network connections [01:46] interface IP address , network device [01:46] although i have not got any control to compare against [01:46] try booting a live cd [01:47] BluesKaj: eth0 is listed [01:47] if the harware is OK it should connect without problems [01:47] IP addy ? [01:47] ah, something strange [01:47] hang on [01:47] enabled ? [01:48] yes, enabled and address is 169.254.6.235 [01:49] that's the avahi address [01:49] avahi? [01:49] should be something like 192.168.2.0 [01:49] the default address when it can't get a dhcp address [01:49] avahi got news for you.... [01:50] yes, that would be right [01:50] so all i can really do is replace the network card? [01:50] NameAlreadyInUse, which router are you using ? [01:50] an old Dlink [01:51] ew [01:51] trusty device ...hmm [01:51] well it hasn't troubled me in the past :P [01:51] NameAlreadyInUse: man, try the LiveCD [01:51] yeah, i'm saying it should work [01:52] are you plugged directly to the router or through a switch? [01:52] it is plugged directly into the router [01:52] i will try the live cd [01:52] 4 lan ports? [01:53] yeah [01:53] change ports :) [01:53] have you tried swapping ports?... rebooting the router? [01:54] i will try rebooting the router [01:56] ok, the router has been rebooted [01:56] i will try the live cd [01:56] swap ports and check the leds [01:59] I have a usb drive that works on one linux machine (eeepc) but not on my desktop. help? [02:03] tim: does your desktop "see" the device? [02:03] <|0sts0ul> tim: Did you happen to format the usb drive with another filesystem? [02:03] tim, it will require a password to mount it anyway [02:03] desktop doesn't see it. its formated fat [02:04] type in console: lsusb (with the drive plugged) [02:05] nejode: nope, no luck with the router reboot, live cd or swapping ports [02:05] ...then your network card is busted [02:06] yeah, that must be it [02:06] http://paste.ubuntu.com/53035/ [02:07] normally there are 4 lines [02:07] and realtek's 8139 chips are as universal as you can get [02:08] tim, no luck man, your system isn't "seeing" the drive [02:09] I've heard of cases where rebooting with the device plugged in did the trick [02:09] Can someone help me something has gone wrong with my system that I can't figure out? [02:09] I installed hylafax and then I tried installing avantfax [02:09] I didn't work for this machine [02:10] avantfax came with a debian-install.sh script [02:10] I ran it and know I can't login into my computer [02:10] I get to kdm and then when I enter my pass I get dumped back to the kdm screen [02:11] I tried renaming .kde4 to kde4back and that didn't fix it [02:11] gizmobay: that happens sometimes when the disk is full [02:12] my disk isn't full [02:12] I ran in recovry mode and I can get into kde 3.5.9 as root [02:14] ...how about apt-get --purge remove kdm ... and reinstall? [02:15] whassa diff between "sudo apt-get install x" and "sudo aptitude install x" ?? [02:16] can't get an internet connection [02:17] ifup eth0 not working [02:18] <|0sts0ul> gizmobay: one thing that will help you see the error is to open another virtual console (ctrl-alt-f1), login to the console, then type 'tail -f /var/log/kdm.log' then ctrl-f7 back to your kdm login and try logging in. This will show you in the console what the login error might be. [02:18] ack === |0sts0ul is now known as |0sts0u| [02:20] <|0sts0u|> glad that ghost finally died! [02:21] okay let me try [02:23] Hi! [02:23] Somebody here gave me a link to fix my problem with the sound [02:24] I have a Lenovo N200 laptop. [02:24] But I don't remember who gave me the link and I don't remember the link, [02:24] Cannot resolve system encoding defaulting ISO ??/ [02:25] module ramdac already built in [02:26] x_link, next time someone gives you a link , bookmark it. [02:27]