mrooneywgrant: it is indeed. although I have been pretty impressed with .27 so far00:23
Hamraexcept for hibernate working, i never notice anything in the dozens of kernels i tried in kubuntu from the days of feisty till now00:28
Hamrathey're all the same for me00:28
mrooneyahh, hibernate and suspend, that's a good thing for me to try in Intrepid01:28
mrooneyoh that's right, I can't use my power button for that.01:29
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mrooneybryce: haha, what a patch02:41
brycegive it a try02:42
mrooneyand that's why, you always close your files02:42
mrooneyI hope that doesn't take my password and send it to your email :)02:42
brycehope you have a big limit on your credit card ;-)02:43
mrooneybryce: what is required for it to be in place after installing, should I restart X?02:43
e-jatbryce, when will the 8.10-beta release? cant wait for its :) waiting some of the bugs fixed in it02:44
brycee-jat: "are we there yet??"  ;-)02:44
brycee-jat: no idea myself, but slangasek is probably working hard on it.02:45
e-jatthanks bryce02:45
e-jatsince it already 2nd oct ... no worries .. i still can wait for it ..02:45
bryceit's still 1st oct for slangasek and I02:45
bryceyou future person you02:46
* wgrant destroys bryce from the future.02:47
e-jattimezone differ :">02:47
wgrante-jat: Where are you?02:48
* wgrant bashes g-p-m with a "I refuse to let you increment over 1000 times" stick.02:48
* wgrant is .au.02:48
wgrantYay, I can safely unplug AC now.02:48
bryceoops, those debs didn't have the patch attached; hang on if you're testing02:49
e-jatwgrant, :)02:50
mrooneybryce: no dice :[02:50
mrooneyI gave it a full restart for good measure, still get the same thing02:50
brycemrooney: yeah I found an error in my build.  one sec, I'll have new debs02:50
mrooneyafter restarting X, F7 was still by old one, and F8 became the new one, I had no idea it worked like that!02:50
mrooney*my old one02:50
mrooneyso I got confused and restarted since at that point it seemed ambiguous which X might get what02:51
bryceI usuallyt restart via '/etc/init.d/gdm restart', to avoid any such messiness.  But logging out and back in ought to be sufficient02:52
bryceok, new debs are posted.  Same links02:52
mrooneymm, that link doesn't exist anywhere on this system, as it turns out02:53
mrooneyno IM or Firefox logging02:53
mrooneyunless, did you post it on the bug?02:54
mrooneybryce: hm, I don't see it there, can you re-link?02:55
bryceok, got one confirmation on #xorg-devel that it's fixed with that deb02:57
mrooneylet me see if I can give you another!02:57
mrooneybryce: looks perfect!03:00
mrooneyno annoying mouse window moving behavior either03:00
Hobbseebug 27695503:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 276955 in launchpad ""Date expected" for milestones is improperly precise" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27695503:01
bdmurraybryce: works for me too03:04
bryceok, once beta-freeze is over I'll upload03:08
Hobbseebryce: you can upload it now - just nothing will happen to it :P03:09
brycehm, guess that's true03:10
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dholbachgood morning06:57
thekorngood morning dholbach07:03
dholbachhey thekorn07:03
elmargolAny Ideas on bug07:43
elmargolbug #27435707:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 274357 in jockey "jockey-kde crashed with DBusException in call_blocking()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27435707:43
RAOFIt's probably the same bug that keeps crashing my jockey-gtk, and is unlikely to have anything happen to it until after beta?07:44
elmargolI have this bug 2 weeks now :(07:45
ubottuError: Launchpad bug 2 could not be found07:45
elmargolDoes this mean it works for every user except us two?07:49
bs68someone reported a bug in gnumeric, but find that it is actually a problem/feature in yelp. how should i deal with status flag for the gnumeric package??08:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 268845 in yelp "Gnumeric help 100% loads processor" [Medium,Confirmed]08:05
bs68the yelp status should be changed from medium to low in my oppinion, but i dont have enough rights for that.08:06
yuriybs68: if it doesn't apply to the package, then invalid08:11
bs68yuriy: ty08:11
bs68is there any way to show a changelog/version history of a bug in launchpad (ie who changed what and when)?08:12
yuriybs68: activity log08:13
bs68yuriy: re ty08:13
yuriytop right, next to reported by...08:13
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ahmadtarekHi All, I think bug #277027 should be changed to wishlist09:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 277027 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Savane - bug report system, with task manager and help" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27702709:55
wgrantahmadtarek: Done.09:59
ahmadtarekwgrant: thanks09:59
zirodayHi, I am new to triaging and sorry If I am asking a silly question. I am looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+bug/276981 which is a wishlist item. How do I notify the xchat maintainers of this?10:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 276981 in xchat "Update Hardy with XChat 2.8.6" [Undecided,New]10:44
bs66ziro: intrepid also includes 2.8.4, but i dunno why.10:55
zirodaybs66: sure, but what do I mark or comment about?10:57
zirodayas I can't set the importance to wishlist10:58
macoziroday: there isn't a specific xchat maintainer. i'll set the importance10:58
zirodaymaco: thanks10:58
zirodayso I would just say something along the lines of "Thank you for filing this bug, this is a wishlist item and has been set so"?11:00
macoziroday: sure11:00
zirodaymaco: alright, and what would I set the Status?11:01
macoziroday: also if you refresh, you can see that i set the title to start with [needs-packaging] and marked that in the tags. when you find one like this, that's what you do.11:01
macoyou do those with the "update description/tags" link11:01
zirodaymaco: I was wondering how you were correctly meant to do it11:02
macoim not sure about status for needs-packaging11:02
macoor if you see a request to add some new application11:02
macothat's also needs-packaging11:02
zirodaymaco: hmm alright11:02
macoi suppose confirmed works for the status11:03
macothough you should probably check that the version they're asking about isn't already packaged in ubuntu11:03
macobefore marking it confirmed11:03
wgrantmaco, ziroday: needs-packaging is for new packages...11:03
wgrantFor upgrades, there is no specific summary snippet and the tag is 'upgrade'11:03
macowgrant: oh. ok i fail.11:03
wgrantIf it's already in Debian or there is a bug filed in Debian, add a Debian task and either link to the bug or mark it as Fix Released as appropriate.11:04
macoziroday: well, the devscripts package includes one called "rmadison" and if you run "rmadison -uqa <package>" you can see what debian and ubuntu repositories have it packaged and what versions they have11:04
zirodayjust checked and in intrepid its been updated to 2.8.611:04
wgrant!info xchat intrepid11:05
zirodayaccording to packages.ubuntu.com11:05
ubottuxchat (source: xchat): IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.6-2ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 315 kB, installed size 840 kB11:05
macoziroday: that's considered fix released then, i believe11:05
wgrantziroday: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat is the canonical reference.11:05
wgrantmaco: Correct.11:05
zirodayokay thanks maco and wgrant, you're awesome11:05
macowgrant: i the update tag isn't listed on the Bugs/Tags page11:06
* ziroday continues to struggle along with his 5-a-day11:06
wgrantmaco: upgrade11:06
macooh it's upgrade11:06
macoan annoying distinction11:06
wgrantThose bugs shouldn't really exist.11:07
macoupdate requests?11:07
macodebian sometimes gets very behind so the sync doesn't help11:07
macogsynaptics was at, i think a year or 2 old version11:08
macofinally a new one is in intrepid11:08
wgrantRight, but gsynaptics needs to die.11:08
* wgrant will obsolete it.11:08
macobut...crap someone needs to test it without having used synclient before11:08
macoi patched in minspeed/maxspeed/accel a while back11:08
macoand i set some sane defaults11:08
macoonly i didnt tell it to check the current setting and switch to that if one is set11:09
macosomeone else patched it to use teh current settings for those11:09
wgrantNot much point in fixing things too much.11:09
macoonly they didn't check to see what happens if there's nothing set yet.  the result is the touchpad stops working completely because if nothing's set, the the min speed, max speed, and acceleration are all 011:09
wgrantmaco: Ubuntu-specific or Debian QA-maintained packages should show up on my http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/uehs/11:10
wgrantEr, if they're out of date.11:10
macowgrant: hm the bug is asking for an SRU. i dont think it'll get it11:12
wgrantmaco: I would certainly deny it.11:13
wgrantWe don't issue SRUs just because upstream feels like it.,11:13
macowgrant: the one he linked, i mean. they say that since hardy's LTS it should be updated, but hardware support, sure...major bugs, yeah...."i like bleeding edge!" ??11:13
wgrantmaco: Right. I was speaking of that bug.11:13
macoim perfectly content to just backport anything i want from intrepid. crimsun taught me to use pbuilder (as dumb as that sounds)11:15
macoi dont expect him to ever stop teasing me about "pbuilder build"11:16
* wgrant just runs $DEVELOPMENT_RELEASE from a couple of weeks in.11:16
macowgrant: i usually would from like alpha 3, but hardy's so nice11:21
wgrantHardy is really nice, I'll give you that...11:22
wgrantIt's rather close to perfect.11:22
macoyes, it is11:22
macoits as close to perfect as intrepid would be on my hardware11:23
macoprobably closer given intrepid's suspend issues11:23
wgrantWorks fine for me.11:23
wgrantBut kernels have been pretty much flawless on my hardware since ~Feisty.11:23
macoi have two non-working pieces of hardware. intrepid doesn't have drivers or a new enough version of libusb for me to compile the drivers, so it has no advantage for me11:23
macoi hope well actually11:24
macoone driver requires a newer libusb. the other requires not-2.6.2711:24
macoi have no idea what the "i hope" line was11:24
macoi think it was "i hope jaunty will"11:25
wgrantThat makes a bit more sense :P11:25
macosometimes i hit the scroll part of the touchpad and it scrolls up to another line and combines them in irssi11:26
macok so its not just something about how i type11:26
macoah, i was saying "i hope jaunty does" and then "well actually, one requires.."11:38
macowgrant: i know usability bugs are usually Low, but if it's a string that isn't translatable on the installer, does that get higher priority (like medium) or stay Low?11:44
wgrantmaco: What kind of string?11:49
wgrantProbably at least Medium.11:50
macowgrant: "install server edition" when the cd first pops up11:50
wgrantMedium should do.11:52
macowhat package is that?11:53
wgrantI suspect gfxboot.11:53
macothey put gfx-boot-theme but that sounds wrong11:53
wgrantMight be the theme.11:53
macook....theme seemed wrong11:53
wgrantBug #212491 isn't dissimilar.11:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 212491 in gfxboot "Live CD, first screen, Hebrew not correctly displayed" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21249111:54
wgrantIt's against both.11:54
wgrantThough for different reasons.11:54
macooh i never saw those lock icons before11:55
wgrantLooks like the theme is the right place.11:55
wgrantLock icons?11:55
macoprivate bug reports11:55
wgrantAh. There are a lot of them around for crashes.11:55
macowgrant: does apport make crashers automatically medium?12:00
macowgrant: bug 276990 is a reason i can't use intrepid12:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 276990 in linux "iwlagn causes kernel panic on 802.11n wifi" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27699012:01
wgrantmaco: In some circumstances I think so.12:02
wgrantI'm not entirely sure.12:03
wgrantmaco: You might want to attach the information RAOF requested, even though you're not the reporter.12:03
macowgrant: i'm not using intrepid12:04
macodraft n is disabled in hardy's kernel12:04
macoand ive got a nice draft n router and everything12:04
wgrantmaco: Well, we'll have a beta release in a few hours.12:05
macoah ok, live cd12:07
macoi'm trying to figure out how to install intrepid in kvm with ubuntu-vm-builder12:08
macoi dont get the point of having u-v-b only be able to handle *old* versions. it's biggest area of usefulness is letting people like me test without changing their production system too much12:09
macowgrant: when checking for sensitive info in a coredump, is running strings on it and going through sufficient, or is there a better way?12:16
wgrantmaco: Doesn't apport normally remove the coredump?12:16
wgrantThe retracer bots, that is.12:17
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ahmadtarekI have a question, In bug #277021, should it be marked as invalid, Fix Released or changed to question?14:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 277021 in evolution "Evolution don't ring if the new mail go in another folder." [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27702114:11
pedro_ahmadtarek: close it as Invalid, it wasn't a bug after all14:12
askandI reported a bug but now it has been removed..14:12
askandfrom launchpad.. >:o14:13
pedro_what was the number?14:14
askandHm I dont know.. it was about firefox having a bad size on the livecd14:14
askandwhen starting it14:14
pedro_I think i saw that, just a sec14:15
ahmadtarekpedro_: thank you14:16
pedro_askand: what's your lp id?14:16
askandpedro_:  olskar14:16
pedro_found it14:16
pedro_bug 27643914:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 276439 in firefox "Wrong placement of firefox on livecd (dup-of: 257947)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27643914:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 257947 in firefox-3.0 "After install of 8.10 alpha 4 Firefox opens with tool bar under top panel." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25794714:16
pedro_askand: it was marked as a duplicate of 257947, it wasn't "removed" from lp14:17
charlie-tcaIs bug 253599 valid? If it is, I'll go ahead and confirm all the themes.14:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 253599 in tango-icon-theme "usb disc icons shoud be different from ordinary hdd icons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25359914:42
charlie-tcaA little help, please14:48
charlie-tcabug 275328 is marked Importance - Wishlist, Declined for Intrepid, Status - New14:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 275328 in thunar-volman "Add support for encrypted drives in thunar-volman by upgrading to 0.3.80" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27532814:49
charlie-tcaWhat is the correct status for bugs declined for the next release? Should it be confirmed or invalid?14:50
cody-somervillecharlie-tca, hmm?14:52
charlie-tcaI need some advice here, I just don't know15:14
Hobbseecharlie-tca: probably don't mark as invalid - it may get implemented in jaunty.15:14
charlie-tcaConfirmed should be good then, right? Shouldn't have to stay at new, should it?15:15
Hobbseefor a wishlist?  no idea.15:15
Hobbseeprobably safer to leave it.15:15
Hobbseeconfirmed / new is pretty much the same thing for wishlists15:15
charlie-tcaYea, but I hate new... It makes me keep looking at them to see if they can be confirmed15:16
charlie-tcaThanks though. I appreciate your advice.15:17
cody-somervillewe mark wishlists as confirmed, yea15:19
charlie-tcaThanks cody-somerville :)15:19
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jjessedont cry i didn't mean to scare you16:01
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weboideHi everyone, im starting in the bugsquad team and I wanted to know what should .debdiffs for new version packages be built into? intrepid? is there now any point in building for hardy?16:18
bdmurrayweboide: a debdiff for a newer package than the only currently in Hardy?16:20
bdmurrayer, Intrepid16:20
jdongweboide: they should go for intrepid, unless you intend on fixing the bug for hardy that qualifies with SRU guidelines16:20
jdong(i.e. critical bugfixes)16:20
weboidethat's because i'm starting with doing "update requests" bugs16:21
jdongweboide: update requests likely won't be honored at this point in the release cycle16:21
jdongI'd encourage you to look at bugs that need fixing in existing versions instead16:21
weboideso new updates won't make it into backports even?16:22
jdongweboide: yes they will make it into  backports once jaunty opens.16:22
weboideoh okay16:22
jdongbackports doesn't accept packages newer than the latest Ubuntu development release due to obvious upgrade headaches :)16:22
weboideso there's no real point in doing updates, even for intrepid right now?16:23
weboidejdong: I should try fix bugs for hardy and intrepid  instead?16:25
jjessedoes the bug in an odler version still exist in hardy/intrepid?16:25
jdongweboide: at this point I'd really recommend trying to fix bugs for intrepid16:26
jdongthat's where we need the most help16:26
weboidejdong: alright, that's what ill do ;)16:26
jdongweboide: fixing bugs for hardy and other already-released versions requires a longer process (the Stable Release Update) that's a bit more difficult to follow16:26
weboidejdong: I see.16:26
weboideThanks for your help jdong16:27
jdongsure thing16:28
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macodid i handle this right? bug 215604 There's an out-of-tree driver for the webcam listed, rejected for Intrepid. There's also a regression in 2.6.27 that makes the out-of-tree driver not work on Intrepid. i marked it triaged for the existence of an out of tree driver18:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 215604 in linux "Genesys Logic Webcam 05e3:0503 Not Working" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21560418:15
persiamaco: I'd call it Triaged as well, but I think it's only one bug: it's not included.18:21
persiaThe fact that the out-of-tree driver isn't keeping up with the Ubuntu trunk is somewhat external, and not something we can likely address or fix.18:21
persiaFurther, while a regression may be seen, wihout some clear understanding of exactly which bit regressed (more than just "Doesn't compile againt the new kernel", it may not be worth considering it.18:22
macopersia: that's what i meant by "very very unlikely the kernel team's going to help him"18:22
macopersia: actually if you check out Nol's comment he says teh regression...or at least links to it18:23
macopersia: not in lp, i mean. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/95145218:23
macopersia: there's a patch in there too18:24
persiaYeah, I'm reading that, but it appears to be for avr32 and mips.  I'm not sure how that affects Ubuntu, but I could be mistaken (and don't really understand kernel)18:24
macopersia: well it says those are examples...i dont have intrepid to try compiling it on *grumble at ubuntu-vm-builder*18:26
persiaHrm.  Yeah.  It also looks like code-cleanup stuff, rather than deep changes.  Dunno.  Bug could be kernel-side (regression) or driver-side (needs porting).18:27
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macopersia: yeah it seems they did code-cleanup upstream and broke backwards compatibility18:29
persiaI'm just not sure whether that should be fixed by undoing the code cleanup (kernel bug), or adjusting the driver to use the cleaned code (driver bug).18:30
chrisccoulsondoes anyone know who SWITALSKI ALexandre is?18:30
persiaSince it's an out-of-Ubuntu driver (even more than just out-of-tree), the latter case may not be a bug.18:30
Hamrachrisccoulson: no idea, why?18:33
chrisccoulsonthey just removed a link to an upstream bug report that i'm assigned too, with no comment18:33
chrisccoulsonbug 18234518:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 182345 in nautilus-actions "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in gconf_client_remove_dir()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18234518:33
chrisccoulsonits fixed upstream, but they just deleted the link a couple of minutes ago18:33
chrisccoulsoni've just re-added it ahain18:34
asomethinghi all! any one know where to file a bug against: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/18:36
macopersia: good point18:36
persiaasomething: What's the bug?18:37
asomethingjust a wish list item, i think it would be much easier to read if the background varied every other line18:38
persiaOh.  Hmm.  There ought be a way to report that.18:38
asomethingnot a real problem, but I keep almost posting comments on the wrong line...18:39
persiaasomething: Why don't you report it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuwire-website/ for now.  I'm sure there's a better place, but at least that way it doesn't get lost.18:39
asomethingsounds good. thanks!18:39
chrisccoulsonpersia - that sounds like the correct place actually18:40
* persia suspects that the code lives somewhere under some Ubuntu Quality branch, but the people who know are likely to be away now.18:40
persiachrisccoulson: No, actually I *know* that's not the correct place, because I have commit access to that project, and it doesn't include the QA tools.18:41
persiaI just forget the name of the QA tools projects, and can't be bothered to look them up with more than a cursory search right now: filing it there is basically a reminder to me to go put it in the right place when I'm more awake and less busy.18:41
chrisccoulsonah, ok!18:42
asomethingI'll look around a bit more first, just thought someone here might know off hand18:42
persiaasomething: No, really, file it there.  I'm only 60% sure there is a better place: fixing it might be a matter of poking the maintainer on IRC.18:47
persia(something I'm happy to assign myself)18:47
asomethingpersia: ok, thanks again18:47
bdmurraypedro_: have you seen anything like bug 276582?19:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 276582 in ubuntu "Sound Preferences error with M-Audio Delta44 in Intrepid Alpha 6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27658219:01
persiabdmurray: That's a known issue with that chipset : it doesn't export things the way pulse expects.19:27
persiaI forget the details, but something about not having a default stereo PCM registered.19:28
persia(and no, unfortunately I don't know if there is a master bug or anything)19:28
pedro_bdmurray: nope sorry19:34
persiaFound it.  I think the problem is bug #178442, although that's a different expression of the issue than I've previously seen19:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 178442 in pulseaudio "Pulseaudio fails to initialize Audiophile 2496" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17844219:43
bucket529Request Bug#271900 change from New to Wishlist - it's a packaging request21:29
chrisccoulsonbug 27190021:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 271900 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] No package for libconfig project" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27190021:29
bucket529Request bug 208406 change from New to Wishlist - another packaging request21:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 208406 in ubuntu "[needs packaging] iscan-plugin-gt-s600" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20840621:32
bucket529Request bug 261768 change from New to Wishlist - another packaging request21:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 261768 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Kete - Library & Collections Management program for books, media, toys, for communities (ILS)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26176821:39
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chrisccoulsonbucket529 - i've altered the first bug reports description to fit the general format for new package requests21:41
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chrisccoulsoni've added the license information, as it was missing that21:41
bucket529Want to learn - what is the general format for new package requests? There's a bunch of them sitting in Ubuntu/New/Undecided21:46
chrisccoulsonthats an example21:46
chrisccoulsonthis gives some more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages/21:46
bucket529chriscoulson: Thanks - I'll try to digest them21:47
jStefanif any webmaster is around, bug 27723521:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 277235 in ubuntu-website "TOC has wrong links on 8.10 Technical Overview" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27723521:49
HamrajStefan: why not confirm it? that's not how anchor links are supposed to work21:57
jStefanHamra, didn't think i could confirm my own bug21:58
chrisccoulsonthats right, you shouldn't confirm;)21:58
chrisccoulsondone it for you21:58
Hamraah, didn't know it's you who posted it21:59
bdmurrayit's being fixed as we speak22:00
jStefanlooks like fully fixed now22:03
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bucket529Request bug 262044 change from New/Undecided to Wishlist - another packaging request22:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 262044 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Sabbu - subtitler for video" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26204422:12
murdokwhat to do when a new bug has a patch, triage?22:14
seb128_hey hggdh22:14
seb128_hggdh: onetime bugs should probably be closed if they don't have useful informations22:15
hggdhhi seb12822:15
hggdhI understand. I decided to tag it onetime to be able to keep an eye on it22:15
hggdhandre___, still, it would match: one single occurrence, nobody able to replicate, and mchra states he cannot understand how it happened22:16
hggdhs/andre __/and/22:16
hggdhbloody autocompletion22:16
andre___hmm? ah :)22:17
hggdhsorry andre___22:17
hggdhseb128_, see above; if you think this is a worng usage of onetime, I will take it out22:18
murdokanyone? :/22:20
seb128_hggdh: not the wrong usage but we have so many bugs that I would not care about tagging those, I would just close if nobody else got the issue and that was a one time bug for the submitter22:20
hggdhseb128_, OK. I have been thinking about how difficult is to find out all the possible reasons of an INVALID closure. This was an experiment (which fired off back very fast ;-)22:21
seb128_oh I don't want to stop you, I was just curious22:22
seb128_I would not spend efforts on that but tags are free to use ;-)22:22
hggdhI wanted to be able to distinguish between real invalid, notabug, notUbuntu, onetimers, etc22:22
seb128_I prefer to spend my effort on open bugs rather than looking at why bugs have been closed though ;-)22:26
hggdhI hear you, I hear you...22:29
bucket529Trying to learn: bug 267380 is a Ubuntu/New/Undecided package request, a PPA at https://launchpad.net/~adrian5632/+archive has the very package. If I were truly wise and zen, what should I do with the bug?22:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 267380 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] UbuDSL - configure ADSL connection with USB modem" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26738022:34
hggdhbucket529, you can add a comment stating the package is on this PPA; it still needs to be formally accepted/rejected22:36
chrisccoulsondoes anyone in here use kubuntu?22:36
hggdhchrisccoulson, every so often. I can re-login in KDE if needed22:37
chrisccoulsoni was just wondering what the KDE equivalent of gnome-power-manager was?22:37
chrisccoulsonthanks. i'm slightly confused now though22:38
hggdhon what?22:38
* hggdh normal status is confused22:39
chrisccoulsonif someone presses the standby button on their laptop, ACPID runs the /etc/acpi/sleep.sh script, which is meant to bomb out if gnome-power-manager or kpowersave exists22:39
chrisccoulsonthis lets them take over the handling of the power-management policy22:39
chrisccoulsondo i understand that correct? and kpowersave doesn't exist on a standard kubuntu install>?22:40
bucket529Recommend bug 267380 change from New/Undecided to Wishlist22:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 267380 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] UbuDSL - configure ADSL connection with USB modem" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26738022:41
Hamrakpowersave? no it soesn't come installed by default22:41
Hamradoesn't *22:41
hggdhchrisccoulson, kpowersave was KDE 322:42
chrisccoulsonso if this is the case, then does /etc/acpi/sleep.sh try to put the machine to sleep, in addition to guidance-power-manager in KDE4? the reason i ask is because i'm looking at a bug from a kubuntu user, where they get a crash on resume from suspend. he can run "pm-suspend" and everything works fine, but if he presses the standby button (which also appears to run pm-suspend), then if fails on resume22:42
chrisccoulsonjust got me thinking22:42
hggdhit might be related, yes. Check if the reporter have both packages installed22:43
chrisccoulsoni will do - thanks22:43
hggdhbucket529, you may also want to check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Needs%20Packaging%20Bugs22:45
hggdhthen we can mark it wishlist22:45
hggdhbucket529, BTW -- thank you for helping out22:49
bucket529hggdh, I was just in the process of bookmarking that page, thanks.22:52
bucket529hggdh, I meant that *section*. I've been becoming a good friend of rmadison -u22:53
bdmurraybucket529: you might be interested in http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/reports/needs-packaging/latest-needs-packaging.html22:59
bucket529bdmurray: Thanks.23:02
bdmurraythat report will have the results of rmadsion and some debian bug searches23:02
chrisccoulsonasac - would you mind taking a look at bug 273633 please? the reporter has provided some information i requested, but my limited knowledge of network-manager makes it difficult for me to take it any further ;)23:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 273633 in network-manager "Network-Manager 0.7 is unable to use IWL3945 to connect to WPA-encrypted networks" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27363323:09
asacchrisccoulson: not sure. launchpad appears t be down somehow23:10
chrisccoulsonasac - thanks. that's odd, i can still access LP at the moment23:13
hggdhditto from here23:13
HamraLP is working here :S but i have no idea about wireless23:18
bucket529Recommend bug 268714 change from New/Undecided to Wishlist23:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 268714 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] libcgroup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26871423:18
macobucket529: got it23:57
macoif a bug has apport failed retrace, what should one do?23:57

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