| === KB1OHY_Rich is now known as KB1OHY | ||
| kgoetz | asac: can i pm you? | 02:12 |
|---|---|---|
| kgoetz | not sure if your there or not either *g* | 02:12 |
| gnomefreak | asac: nice job on n-m if i change connection i dont have to restart anymore ;) | 09:23 |
| gnomefreak | asac: why am i getting email about tbird 3.0b1 being pushed back to 3.0a3 :( if you want i can foard the email to you but for the moment im gonna look for some earlier posts | 09:42 |
| gnomefreak | ha i couldnt send to mozilla lists due to gmail not letting gmail users to send to those lists for some reason | 09:58 |
| asac | gnomefreak: ok | 10:46 |
| * gnomefreak losing my frigging mind | 10:46 | |
| asac | strange that gmail doesnt work for a few mailing lists | 10:46 |
| gnomefreak | asac: yeah i thought so to but it ws fixed now my emails are getting on lists | 10:47 |
| asac | cool | 10:47 |
| asac | finally that is over ;) | 10:47 |
| gnomefreak | nevermind i cant foward it. i lost the email :( | 10:47 |
| gnomefreak | i blame claws-mail since its giving me a headache | 10:48 |
| gnomefreak | god help me im gonna break something | 11:05 |
| gnomefreak | be back smoke | 11:05 |
| asac | gnomefreak: maybe you should use mutt ;) | 11:23 |
| gnomefreak | mutts a pain in the ass to set up lol do me a facor try to search for a package in synaptic | 11:24 |
| fta2 | mutt rulez | 11:25 |
| asac | yeah... the differnce is that once you have set it up ;) ... it just works | 11:25 |
| asac | so it might require some initial investment | 11:25 |
| asac | fta2: how can i tell mutt to display multi line links like irssi (e.g. without a trailing '+') | 11:25 |
| asac | :) | 11:26 |
| asac | actually i dont want any line break to be indicated with '+' | 11:26 |
| asac | err long-line-break | 11:26 |
| fta2 | you'd better add urlview | 11:26 |
| fta2 | line breaks are different | 11:27 |
| fta2 | set smart_wrap | 11:28 |
| asac | fta2: smart_wrap? | 11:31 |
| fta2 | or just unset markers | 11:31 |
| asac | fta2: atm all long lines have "+" at the end | 11:31 |
| asac | i dont want that anymore ;) | 11:31 |
| fta2 | 3.113. markers | 11:31 |
| fta2 | Type: boolean | 11:31 |
| fta2 | Default: yes | 11:31 |
| fta2 | Controls the display of wrapped lines in the internal pager. If set, a | 11:31 |
| fta2 | ``+'' marker is displayed at the beginning of wrapped lines. Also see the | 11:31 |
| fta2 | ``$smart_wrap'' variable. | 11:31 |
| fta2 | 3.261. smart_wrap | 11:32 |
| fta2 | Type: boolean | 11:32 |
| fta2 | Default: yes | 11:32 |
| fta2 | Controls the display of lines longer than the screen width in the internal | 11:32 |
| fta2 | pager. If set, long lines are wrapped at a word boundary. If unset, lines | 11:32 |
| fta2 | are simply wrapped at the screen edge. Also see the ``$markers'' variable. | 11:32 |
| asac | yeah | 11:32 |
| asac | so smart_wrap=no | 11:32 |
| asac | and markers=no | 11:33 |
| asac | great | 11:33 |
| asac | hmm | 11:33 |
| asac | actually lets try only markers | 11:33 |
| asac | i like if line break is done for words | 11:33 |
| fta2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/53157/ | 11:36 |
| asac | fta2: i think we should really add the sensible-/x-www-/gnome-www- browser alternatives | 11:51 |
| asac | hmm ... at least the gnome- one is missing | 11:52 |
| armin76 | bumb | 12:02 |
| fta2 | armin76, ? | 12:46 |
| asac | fta2: hmm ... x-www-browser has firefox-3.0 as alternative, but not /usr/bin/firefox | 12:47 |
| asac | gnome-www-browser doesnt have any ffox | 12:47 |
| asac | @time | 15:14 |
| ubottu | Current time in Etc/UTC: October 02 2008, 14:14:46 - Next meeting: MOTU Team in 21 hours 45 minutes | 15:14 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| bdmurray | asac: with network manager should both my wired and wireless interfaces have IP addresses? | 17:33 |
| asac | bdmurray: in some cases yes | 17:35 |
| asac | bdmurray: do you have problems with that in your setup? | 17:36 |
| bdmurray | asac: I only have one default route, which seems right, however I saw traffic to internet going through both interfaces. | 17:36 |
| asac | bdmurray: ok. | 17:40 |
| asac | bdmurray: thats expected behaviour according to the NM maintainer | 17:40 |
| asac | i will try to talk to him again and see why he thinks thats not problematic | 17:40 |
| bdmurray | I think its problematic, it was quite slow | 17:41 |
| asac | bdmurray: please file a bug with the ifconfig and route -n output attached | 17:41 |
| asac | (at the time its problematic) | 17:41 |
| bdmurray | asac: would tcpdumps help too? | 17:42 |
| asac | bdmurray: well. the routing table should be enough | 17:42 |
| asac | bdmurray: if the routing table is good, but you still get packet loss its really on low level | 17:42 |
| asac | maybe we need tcpcump then | 17:42 |
| asac | bdmurray: do both interfaces connect to same subnet? | 17:43 |
| bdmurray | asac: yes, both interfaces are on the same subnet | 17:43 |
| bdmurray | asac: bug 277063 looks similar | 17:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 277063 in network-manager "Wired and wireless connection to the same router cause confusion" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277063 | 17:54 |
| asac | bdmurray: so thats similar | 17:59 |
| asac | e.g. first it works | 17:59 |
| asac | but repluggin wired causes package loss? | 17:59 |
| asac | how does the routing table look like after replugging then? | 17:59 |
| bdmurray | I believe I had the ethernet cable connected when booting | 17:59 |
| bdmurray | Yeah, they were both connected on boot and I have the issue | 18:01 |
| === willguaraldi_ is now known as willguaraldi | ||
| asac | james_w: i need your help ;) | 20:09 |
| asac | are you still on? | 20:09 |
| asac | s/help/advise/ | 20:09 |
| james_w | hey asac, I need to cook shortly, but I have a few minutes | 20:09 |
| asac | james_w: i wonder how well rebase works in bzr? | 20:10 |
| asac | i looked at loom but i think that isnt made for me :( | 20:10 |
| james_w | have you tried bzr-rebase? | 20:11 |
| asac | james_w: no thats the next thing i will do ;) | 20:11 |
| asac | james_w: how is the performance? | 20:11 |
| james_w | no idea, I've never used it | 20:12 |
| asac | james_w: ok. now i have the real question :) | 20:12 |
| asac | james_w: the nm packaging branch is full source branch which i regularly merge a branch i used to develop a ubuntu feature | 20:12 |
| asac | james_w: now almost everything is upstream of that and i would like to stop using that branch ... and instead use the real trunk branch | 20:13 |
| asac | so: | 20:13 |
| asac | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/network-manager/main | 20:13 |
| asac | thats the upstream branch | 20:13 |
| asac | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~asac/network-manager/main.eni | 20:13 |
| asac | thats the branch i used to develop the feature | 20:13 |
| asac | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~network-manager/network-manager/ubuntu.0.7 | 20:14 |
| asac | thats the packaging branch | 20:14 |
| asac | usually i merged the vcs-import branch into main.eni | 20:14 |
| asac | and from there into ubuntu.0.7 | 20:14 |
| asac | looking back probably a bad thing | 20:14 |
| asac | is there any way i can directly merge from vcs-import into the packaging branch? | 20:14 |
| asac | maybe by first making the vcs-import branch and the main.eni branch identical? | 20:15 |
| james_w | does just "bzr merge lp:~vcs-imports/network-manager/main" not work for you? | 20:16 |
| asac | e.g. bzr diff vcs-import main.eni | patch -p0 -R | 20:16 |
| asac | i think i had problems with that in the paste ... e.g. getting conflicts | 20:16 |
| asac | past | 20:16 |
| asac | let me check ;) | 20:16 |
| asac | hmm ... all fine :) | 20:18 |
| asac | thanks | 20:18 |
| asac | ;) | 20:18 |
| asac | james_w: ^^ | 20:18 |
| james_w | no problem :-) | 20:18 |
| james_w | I've got to eat something now | 20:18 |
| asac | but i guess i should first eliminate any diff on main.eni ... merge that and the continue to go directlry from vcs | 20:18 |
| james_w | I'll be around later if you run in to any hiccups | 20:18 |
| asac | yeah | 20:18 |
| asac | enjoy | 20:18 |
| === XioNoX- is now known as XioNoX | ||
| asac_ | @time | 21:28 |
| ubottu | Current time in Etc/UTC: October 02 2008, 20:28:49 - Next meeting: MOTU Team in 15 hours 31 minutes | 21:28 |
| asac_ | ok i guess today wont be any luck here | 21:29 |
| asac_ | no connection last longer than 1 minute :( | 21:29 |
| asac_ | @time | 21:29 |
| ubottu | Current time in Etc/UTC: October 02 2008, 20:29:41 - Next meeting: MOTU Team in 15 hours 30 minutes | 21:29 |
| asac_ | yay ... i was here for 2 times ;) | 21:29 |
| asac_ | @time | 21:30 |
| ubottu | Current time in Etc/UTC: October 02 2008, 20:30:16 - Next meeting: MOTU Team in 15 hours 29 minutes | 21:30 |
| asac_ | stable? | 21:30 |
| asac_ | :) | 21:30 |
| * asac_ stares at the yahoo.de pings ;) | 21:30 | |
| Nafallo | asac_: srsly? :-) | 21:32 |
| asac_ | at least my router has a new firmware now ;) | 21:32 |
| asac_ | Nafallo: yeah ;) ... that caused me a heart attach | 21:33 |
| asac_ | almost | 21:33 |
| * Nafallo bets this new firmware didn't include NetworkManager and that's why things got stable ;-) | 21:33 | |
| asac_ | i uploaded new firmware ... doc says: "dont touch anything until thats finished (2 minutes) | 21:33 |
| asac_ | i waited for 20 minutes ... the "not-ready" sign still blinking | 21:33 |
| asac_ | then i pulled the power plug ... expecting that my router would be dead | 21:33 |
| asac_ | but it wasnt ;) | 21:33 |
| asac_ | it came up and had the new firmware version :-D | 21:34 |
| asac_ | Nafallo: i have good news for your ... NM will allow you to change your hostname again ;) | 21:34 |
| Nafallo | ehrm. whatnow? | 21:34 |
| Nafallo | does that mean I need to stab the damn thing? | 21:35 |
| asac_ | Nafallo: if all goes well it will use the "right" way when /etc/hostname is empty | 21:35 |
| Nafallo | ah. | 21:35 |
| asac_ | :) | 21:35 |
| Nafallo | and /etc/hostname will NEVER EVER EVAR(!!) be empty!!! | 21:35 |
| asac_ | Nafallo: but the death-grip patch will get removed :) ... so be prepared that eventually your hostname flips around (i hope not) | 21:35 |
| asac_ | Nafallo: well ... in the end you can use NM gui to make it empty ;) | 21:35 |
| * Nafallo stabs NM gui | 21:36 | |
| asac_ | e.g. Hostname ([ ] check here to automagically guess hostname) | 21:36 |
| Nafallo | yea. cause NetworkManager doesn't want to get into Gnome, so they do things not to be user-friendly | 21:37 |
| asac_ | hehe | 21:37 |
| Nafallo | srsly. crack is not good for programmers. | 21:37 |
| asac_ | NM tried to be user-friendly for < 0.7 ... everybody bashed NM for that ;) | 21:38 |
| asac_ | now it people get what they deserve :-D | 21:38 |
| sebner | asac_: NM just *rocks* :) | 21:39 |
| asac_ | i agree | 21:39 |
| * asac_ asac-the-nm-rocker | 21:39 | |
| === asac_ is now known as asac-the-nm-rock | ||
| asac-the-nm-rock | ;) | 21:40 |
| asac-the-nm-rock | i cant use that long nick :) | 21:40 |
| === asac-the-nm-rock is now known as nm-rocker | ||
| * nm-rocker is here | 21:40 | |
| sebner | nm-rocker: what about: "asach-nm-hero" ;) | 21:41 |
| === nm-rocker is now known as asac | ||
| asac | oh no | 21:41 |
| asac | keepnick didnt like my new name ;) | 21:42 |
| Nafallo | good | 21:42 |
| Nafallo | 21:37 < Nafallo> srsly. crack is not good for programmers. | 21:42 |
| Nafallo | :-P | 21:42 |
| asac | james_w: do you know anything about loom? | 21:49 |
| asac | hmm ... maybe all this doesnt make sense and i should rather go back to bzr managed quilt :( | 21:52 |
| Nafallo | haha | 21:53 |
| Nafallo | asac: dude... I'm not going to quote myself quoting myself ;-) | 21:53 |
| asac | Nafallo: do you guys use bzr for anything? | 21:58 |
| * asac loomifies NM | 22:04 | |
| sebner | quoting myself quoting myself is a little bit schizophrenic :D | 22:05 |
| asac | james_w: ok. all fine. now i wonder about something like debcommit ... just parsing upstream ChangeLog changes ;) | 22:09 |
| asac | bzr commit -F ChangeLog wasnt that a create idea ;) | 22:10 |
| bdmurray | asac: I've updated bug 277063 a bit and assigned it to you. Did you want to be assigned or subscribed? | 22:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 277063 in network-manager "Wired and wireless connection to the same router cause confusion" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277063 | 22:25 |
| Nafallo | haha | 22:26 |
| Nafallo | oh | 22:28 |
| asac | bdmurray: subscribed is better | 22:29 |
| bdmurray | asac: okay, I'll switch it | 22:29 |
| asac | bdmurray: what is about "before"? | 22:30 |
| asac | does it work before repluggin? | 22:31 |
| [reed] | asac: so, should I upgrade one of my laptops to 8.10 beta? | 22:32 |
| [reed] | or wait a week? | 22:32 |
| asac | [reed]: look at your hardware. | 22:32 |
| asac | [reed]: if you have hw of bug 263555 you would end up without networking | 22:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 263555 in linux "[intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/263555 | 22:33 |
| asac | (we blacklist that module for obvious reasons) | 22:33 |
| asac | [reed]: wifi would work though .... but at best wait for the beta announcement and read through the errata | 22:33 |
| asac | if those things are something that hit you | 22:33 |
| [reed] | beta has been announced | 22:33 |
| asac | i use intrepid happily ;) | 22:33 |
| asac | oh :-D | 22:33 |
| bdmurray | asac: it works with both connected at initial boot, works after disconnecting wired, fails after reconnecting wired | 22:33 |
| asac | bdmurray: ok could youplease attach the same info (except daemon.log) to the bug for "before"? | 22:34 |
| * asac opens planet | 22:34 | |
| bdmurray | asac: ping, route and the packet traces with both wired and wireless connected? | 22:35 |
| asac | yeah | 22:35 |
| bdmurray | alright, will do | 22:35 |
| asac | thx | 22:35 |
| asac | [reed]: do you know if the image zoom pixelated bug (EXTEND_PAD in pixmaN) is fixed trunk? | 22:49 |
| fta_ | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18142550/error.jpg | 23:07 |
| fta_ | from bug 154749 | 23:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 154749 in seamonkey "seamonkey installer bin will not oper in ubuntu desktop ver 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154749 | 23:08 |
| === fta_ is now known as fta | ||
| asac | fta: nothing works for me here :( | 23:11 |
| asac | @time | 23:11 |
| ubottu | Current time in Etc/UTC: October 02 2008, 22:11:06 - Next meeting: MOTU Team in 13 hours 48 minutes | 23:11 |
| asac | hmm ... online | 23:11 |
| fta | eh? | 23:16 |
| fta | jdstrand, any progress with sm 1.1.12 on hardy? | 23:17 |
| jdstrand | fta: I asked in the bug for someone to comment on the testing done | 23:18 |
| fta | oh | 23:18 |
| jdstrand | once I have that, I'll process it | 23:18 |
| fta | i think asac tested it, of course, i did too | 23:20 |
| fta | asac, could you please comment on the bug? | 23:20 |
| asac | fta: dont have a bug id | 23:23 |
| asac | ;) | 23:23 |
| fta | bug 276437 | 23:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 276437 in seamonkey "security upgrade of seamonkey 1.1.12" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/276437 | 23:23 |
| asac | done | 23:26 |
| jdstrand | tahnks! I'll get it uploaded | 23:26 |
| jdstrand | thanks even... | 23:27 |
| fta | thanks too | 23:27 |
| bdmurray | asac: I've added the files you wanted to bug 277063 | 23:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 277063 in network-manager "Wired and wireless connection to the same router cause confusion" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277063 | 23:40 |
| [reed] | asac: uh, network manager isn't loading? | 23:41 |
| * [reed] is confuse | 23:41 | |
| [reed] | d | 23:41 |
| [reed] | I'm on intrepid, yet I have no network at all | 23:41 |
| [reed] | :( | 23:41 |
| [reed] | hmm | 23:42 |
| [reed] | it seems to be running | 23:42 |
| [reed] | no applet, though | 23:42 |
| asac | [reed]: upgraded? | 23:43 |
| asac | rebooted? | 23:44 |
| [reed] | yes | 23:44 |
| [reed] | yes | 23:44 |
| asac | [reed]: applet process running? | 23:44 |
| [reed] | what's it called? | 23:44 |
| asac | nm-applet | 23:44 |
| [reed] | no | 23:44 |
| asac | [reed]: try to start it from command line | 23:44 |
| asac | and see if it crashes or something | 23:44 |
| [reed] | it started, but it isn't seeing my wired connection, nor is it seeing the VPNs I had | 23:45 |
| asac | [reed]: what does it see? | 23:46 |
| asac | automatic wired? | 23:46 |
| [reed] | no, it only shows "Wireless Networks" | 23:46 |
| asac | [reed]: so do you have a wired interface? | 23:46 |
| [reed] | ifconfig only shows lo, wlan0 and wmaster0-00 | 23:47 |
| [reed] | I have an ethernet cable plugged into the ethernet port, and the lights are a blinkin', but NM isn't noticing :( | 23:47 |
| [reed] | and nm-applet just dumped core | 23:48 |
| fta | (i removed nm today on hardy, it prevented gnome to start (so i had X with just a wallpaper) and it made all my console blink. going back to static ip solved it all) | 23:48 |
| asac | [reed]: for i in `hal-find-by-capability --capability net`; do lshal -u $i; done | 23:49 |
| asac | [reed]: is your wired interface in there? | 23:49 |
| [reed] | no | 23:50 |
| [reed] | two udi things | 23:50 |
| [reed] | both wlan | 23:50 |
| asac | thats the cause then | 23:50 |
| asac | yeah | 23:50 |
| [reed] | uh, so | 23:50 |
| asac | is it in lspci | 23:50 |
| [reed] | how do I fix? | 23:50 |
| asac | [reed]: you know which chipset you are using? | 23:51 |
| [reed] | I see: "Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection (rev 61)" | 23:51 |
| asac | [reed]: 23:32 < asac> [reed]: if you have hw of bug 263555 you would end up without networking | 23:51 |
| [reed] | asac: not off the top of my head, no... it's a ThinkPad X61 | 23:51 |
| asac | 23:33 < ubottu> Launchpad bug 263555 in linux "[intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/263555 | 23:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 263555 in linux "[intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/263555 | 23:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 263555 in linux "[intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/263555 | 23:51 |
| asac | [reed]: is that your card? | 23:52 |
| asac | [reed]: in that case the driver is blacklisted :( | 23:52 |
| asac | until the next kernel upload afaict | 23:52 |
| [reed] | "I was really shocked to see that it took more than one day between the Issue becoming apparent and the warning being placed on the website. This is a very serious issue and can cause severe damage on really expensive hardware (i.e. most recent Lenovo Thinkpads like the X200, X301, T400, T500 and so on)." | 23:52 |
| [reed] | don't see mine listed | 23:52 |
| [reed] | don't you have a ThinkPad? | 23:52 |
| [reed] | knew I shouldn't have upgraded this laptop | 23:55 |
| [reed] | now I can't get on wired or wifi | 23:55 |
| asac | no wifi? | 23:55 |
| asac | why that? | 23:55 |
| [reed] | nm-applet core dumped! | 23:55 |
| asac | [reed]: have you tried more than once? | 23:55 |
| [reed] | attempting now | 23:56 |
| [reed] | nope | 23:59 |
| [reed] | network is 802.1x | 23:59 |
| [reed] | won't connect | 23:59 |
| [reed] | :/ | 23:59 |
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