apachelogger | ScottK: our mission is to provide the best KDE desktop based on ubuntu AFAIK | 00:13 |
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apachelogger | I'd feel rather uncomfortable shipping GTK software where in most user's use cases ark would do as well | 00:13 |
aleite | Hello guys@ | 00:28 |
aleite | Do you know how to build kde on release mode? | 00:28 |
aleite | Now, even if I put -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release, kde is built in debugfull mode | 00:29 |
Jucato | small 'r'? as in =release? | 00:31 |
aleite | Tried too... | 00:32 |
aleite | didn't work | 00:32 |
dread | heya | 04:11 |
dread | why the crap is the damn ugly 'gwenview-kde3' preinstalled in kubuntu 8.10 beta ? | 04:11 |
dread | i updated from 8.04 | 04:12 |
dread | can anyone give me the default sources.list for 8.10 please? | 04:14 |
dread | argh | 04:15 |
dread | the new adept is messy... not showing up the packages from sources | 04:16 |
Hobbsee | dread: well, for a start, gwenview-kde3 doesn't exist in ubuntu/kubuntu. | 04:16 |
Hobbsee | secondly, be respectful if you actually want an answer. | 04:16 |
Hobbsee | thirdly, default sources.list is probably a #kubuntu question. | 04:17 |
dread | ok, very sorry T_T | 04:19 |
dread | you guys rock ;-) | 04:19 |
ScottK | apachelogger: I was thinking in addition, not instead of, but not a big deal. | 04:38 |
hosein-mec | why there isnt default list of package in Adept 3 ?? there is only search function to see package ... ! | 08:34 |
Salze | Hi. kdesudo "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel" does not give me any new packages. Will I get the same result (I should have gotten with this) by replacing hardy with intrepid in the sources.list? | 10:05 |
Salze | Oh...forget it. | 10:06 |
* Salze feels ashamed | 10:06 | |
Salze | The upgrade button was hidden because the window was too small. | 10:06 |
seaLne | why is 4.1.2 in hardy but not intrepid is it just beta freeze? | 10:14 |
stdin | !info kdelibs5 intrepid | seaLne | 10:17 |
ubottu | sealne: kdelibs5 (source: kde4libs): core libraries for all KDE 4 applications. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 9292 kB, installed size 25912 kB | 10:17 |
seaLne | hmm so it should be? | 10:19 |
stdin | well, that's what apt reports | 10:19 |
seaLne | weird my system agrees didn't remember it installing | 10:20 |
seaLne | :) | 10:20 |
stdin | must have upgraded smoothly then :) | 10:20 |
* seaLne grins | 10:21 | |
DreadKnight | the beta has issue on my box | 10:51 |
DreadKnight | but only the 64bit version | 10:51 |
DreadKnight | i couldn't get x running at all | 10:52 |
DreadKnight | intel GMA 950 video card | 10:52 |
davmor2 | DreadKnight: works here | 10:52 |
DreadKnight | davmor2: installed from cd? | 10:53 |
DreadKnight | i have Toshiba portege m405 | 10:53 |
davmor2 | DreadKnight: yeap both alt and live | 10:53 |
DreadKnight | i upgraded a hardy install... heh | 10:53 |
DreadKnight | only 32 bit worked | 10:53 |
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apachelogger | ~topic seperator | | 12:12 |
kubotu | unknown command | 12:12 |
apachelogger | -.- | 12:12 |
apachelogger | ~help topic | 12:12 |
kubotu | topic add(at)|prepend|del(ete)|replace|sep(arator)|learn|restore|clear|set|undo: manipulate the topic of the current channel; use topic <#channel> <command> for private addressing | 12:12 |
apachelogger | ~topic sep | | 12:12 |
kubotu | Topic separator set to | | 12:12 |
apachelogger | ~topic add Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseSchedule | 12:13 |
=== kubotu changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Todo | Beta is out, you all rock! | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseSchedule | ||
apachelogger | ~topic learn | 12:13 |
kubotu | alright | 12:13 |
Salze | I have a problem during the update from Hardy to Intrepid with the adept_manager installation procedure. | 12:14 |
Salze | Unfortunately I cannot start konqueror, so I cannot use pastebin. | 12:14 |
Salze | Anyone willing to try to help me in a query? | 12:14 |
apachelogger | why can't you start konqueror? | 12:14 |
Salze | I think because some parts have already been replaced. | 12:14 |
Salze | But I'm not sure. | 12:15 |
Salze | It says it cannot initiate http protocol. | 12:15 |
apachelogger | Salze: can you paste to a file? | 12:15 |
Salze | Yes. | 12:16 |
apachelogger | Salze: do that | 12:16 |
Salze | I have. | 12:16 |
apachelogger | then wget http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/batpaste | 12:16 |
apachelogger | ruby batpaste FILENAME | 12:16 |
Salze | http://paste.ubuntu.com/53414/ | 12:17 |
Salze | Thank you. | 12:17 |
Salze | The installation process hangs (as far as I can tell). Any chance to get it running again? | 12:19 |
apachelogger | Salze: how did you start the upgrade? | 12:19 |
Salze | kdesudo ... | 12:19 |
Salze | Don't remember exactly - I c&p from the webpage. | 12:19 |
apachelogger | adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel maybe? | 12:20 |
Salze | Yes. | 12:20 |
apachelogger | hm | 12:20 |
Salze | kdesudo (or something) in front of that. | 12:20 |
apachelogger | Riddell: would that restart the upgrade if it has been aborted? | 12:21 |
Salze | The window is still open - I just have the impression it waits for some input. | 12:21 |
Salze | But I don't see any question. | 12:21 |
Salze | It's stuck at "Configuring landscape-common | 12:22 |
apachelogger | Salze: you will have to wait for Riddell, he knows about the upgrader | 12:23 |
Salze | Ok. Thank you for your help! | 12:23 |
apachelogger | You're welcome! | 12:23 |
Salze | Just in case someone might be interested: I killed "/usr/bin/python /usr/bin/landscape-sysinfo". Now the installer continues to run. | 12:29 |
apachelogger | Salze: it might happen again | 12:30 |
Salze | Same error messages with bash_completion - although this time the installer continues to run. | 12:30 |
* apachelogger is wondering why it can't initialize the kde frontend for debconf | 12:31 | |
Salze | I don't know. I would suspect some essential kde files got updated already and are now incompatible. | 12:31 |
Salze | [13:30] <apachelogger> Salze: it might happen again <- it did - several times already. But now it always continues to run. | 12:32 |
Salze | Let's wait and see whether the system will be usable at the end. :-) | 12:32 |
apachelogger | well, maybe debconf is locked | 12:32 |
Salze | Wouldn't it then complain about locks instead of frontend? | 12:33 |
Riddell | apachelogger: there is no kde frontend to debconf | 12:33 |
Riddell | we should probably write one | 12:33 |
apachelogger | Riddell: wasn't there some? | 12:33 |
Riddell | there was for kde 3, not for kde 4 | 12:33 |
* apachelogger seems to remember that adept poped up with a kde dialog for debconf stuff | 12:34 | |
apachelogger | ah, I see | 12:34 |
Salze | It did ask me once whether I want to keep or replace changes on some file. Was that debconf? | 12:34 |
apachelogger | no, that was dpkg itself | 12:35 |
apachelogger | Riddell: can you grant a FFe for powerdevil? | 12:35 |
Salze | Ok. | 12:35 |
Riddell | Salze: when your upgrade is done report a bug on update-manager noting where it got stuck and attach /usr/lob/dist-upgrade/* | 12:35 |
apachelogger | s/lob/log | 12:35 |
Riddell | apachelogger: if there's a good reason I could | 12:35 |
Salze | Will do - at least if the system is useable at the end. *gg* | 12:35 |
apachelogger | Riddell: it works better ;-) | 12:35 |
* apachelogger is wondering why drf doesn't keep a changelog -.- | 12:36 | |
Riddell | changelogs are hassle to keep | 12:36 |
Riddell | apachelogger: yeah, go for it, I'll review the package before uploading | 12:37 |
apachelogger | Riddell: do you want to upload or are you reviewing it before accepting the upload? | 12:38 |
apachelogger | it's in universe, so I can upload :) | 12:38 |
Salze | /usr/lob/dist-upgrade/* <- It's /var, right? | 12:39 |
apachelogger | haha, awesome svn log http://paste.ubuntu.com/53418/ | 12:40 |
stdin | /var/log/dist-upgrade | 12:40 |
Salze | Ok, I managed to save that to my SD card, so that I will have it even if the system does not work after rebooting. | 12:42 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: apparently your ksmserver patch broke update-notifier-kde, clicking on the reboot icon brings up the shutdown dialog | 12:54 |
JontheEchidna | bug 277380 | 12:55 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 277380 in kdebase-workspace "After installing updates in Adept and needing to restart, clicking on "restart" tray icon brings up dialog to shut down" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277380 | 12:55 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: is that too late to get kpackagekit in the archives ? | 13:00 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: 0.1 looks stable to get in universe imho | 13:00 |
Riddell | apachelogger: go ahead and upload | 13:00 |
Riddell | Tonio_: that's fine with me | 13:01 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: and since we'll probably consider it for jaunty.... why not getting it in... | 13:01 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: okay, I'll make the packages clean enough for the archives and upload to revu.... then ping to get revued | 13:02 |
Riddell | JontheEchidna: mm, it probably just needs to call the correct numbers, unfortunately they're not well documented | 13:02 |
apachelogger | Riddell: uploaded | 13:02 |
Riddell | apachelogger: what happened to you and core-dev? | 13:02 |
apachelogger | Riddell: rumor has it that apparently it got deferred | 13:04 |
apachelogger | but since motu council does super secret channels I wouldn't know for sure :P | 13:04 |
apachelogger | s/channels/meetings | 13:04 |
apachelogger | ...in super secret channels though... | 13:04 |
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ScottK | It was still listed as a pending application in the meeting notes from the last meeting. | 13:38 |
Riddell | ScottK: what's it blocked on? | 13:45 |
ScottK | Riddell: Dunno. They just list pending applications in their call minutes, but don't say why they are still pending. | 13:46 |
Riddell | poke nixternal | 13:49 |
Riddell | presumably he needs to show up at a tech board meeting sometime | 13:49 |
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jtechidna | ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/53441/ | 14:16 |
jtechidna | works for me (tm) | 14:16 |
ScottK | jtechidna: I'm downloading the source from your PPA now. | 14:18 |
jjesse | mroning | 14:19 |
jtechidna | http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/Woremar/tooltips.png | 14:19 |
ScottK | jtechidna: Cool. Thanks. I'll build it and let you know how it works here. | 14:21 |
jtechidna | ScottK: you're welcome. I learned a lot in the process | 14:22 |
ScottK | jtechidna: I do think Riddell should review it before upload so unless he asks me to after looking at it, I don't think I should sponsor it. | 14:24 |
jtechidna | yeah, def | 14:24 |
rgreening | OMG.. that pic is awesome | 14:28 |
* rgreening wishes kde 4.2 was ready for intrepid | 14:29 | |
rgreening | come on Jaunty... | 14:29 |
* ScottK finds 4.1 quite exciting enough thank you very much. | 14:30 | |
rgreening | lol | 14:30 |
rgreening | does anyone here know the Plasman API? I want to code a small app but was looking for someone to work with. | 14:31 |
rgreening | s/Plasman/Plasma | 14:32 |
rgreening | I miss my favorites applet... so I want to code one for Plasma... | 14:32 |
sebas | rgreening: what do you need to know exactly? | 14:35 |
rgreening | I haven't looked at Plasma before, so I was looking for someone who has to help out. | 14:36 |
sebas | #plasma is usually helpful | 14:36 |
rgreening | good idea | 14:36 |
sebas | And there are lots of examples in KDE's svn | 14:36 |
* rgreening adds to auto-connect | 14:36 | |
sebas | You can start by modifying an existing plasmoids | 14:36 |
sebas | -s | 14:36 |
rgreening | true. does kdevelop support KDE4 and Plasmoid projects yet? | 14:37 |
sebas | Dunno, I'm using kate+konsole usually | 14:37 |
sebas | I *think* it does, but I'm not a 100% sure | 14:37 |
Riddell | kdevelop is just a text editor too, it supports anything. it should come with KDE 4 templates. plasmoid templates probably not but you can start with any existing one | 14:39 |
* sebas nods at Riddell | 14:39 | |
Riddell | sebas: go nod in that other channel over there | 14:39 |
* rgreening installed kdevelop.. KDE4 projects folder... empty.. hrm | 14:40 | |
rgreening | Is there a python bindings support being done (or exist) for plasma yet? | 14:41 |
rgreening | cause that would be easier :P | 14:42 |
Riddell | python bindings are in playground/base/plasma but it didn't work last I tried | 14:42 |
Riddell | will need kde 4.2 anyway | 14:42 |
rgreening | ah | 14:42 |
jtechidna | yeah, can't wait for 4.2 | 14:45 |
jtechidna | I think I can wait for Jaunty though, Intrepid has been exciting | 14:45 |
ScottK | Riddell: One problem I ran into when I upgraded was between kdelibs4-dev and kdelibs5-dev. I had kdegames-dev installed and it switched from *4 to *5 and they aren't coinstallable. I could sort it manually and probably so could most people who have -dev packages. Is it worth worrying about? | 14:46 |
Riddell | ScottK: so apt got confused? | 14:48 |
ScottK | Riddell: Yes. It couldn't upgrade kdegames-dev because that would have needed kdelibs4-dev removed. I think it's either 'not a big deal' or update-manager needs a special case for it. | 14:49 |
ScottK | I replicated it do an upgrade of a chroot from hardy to intrepid, so it wasn't a one time oddity. | 14:50 |
nixternal | good morning | 14:56 |
Riddell | ScottK: I guess mvo is the person to ask about what the right thing to do is. there should be a right thing to do | 14:57 |
nixternal | apachelogger: I already commented and gave you a +1 on your application correct? | 14:58 |
ScottK | Riddell: OK. I'll ask him. | 14:58 |
Riddell | ScottK: he might be on holiday today though, it's german group hug day | 14:58 |
ScottK | OK. | 14:59 |
* ScottK adds to TODO. | 14:59 | |
Riddell | nixternal: yes but motu-council hasn't got any further | 14:59 |
nixternal | hrmm, I don't know why...and I thought I was the one holding up processes due to me working, guess not | 14:59 |
nixternal | argh, I can see this MC stuff is going to piss me off concerning you apachelogger | 15:02 |
Riddell | nixternal: how so? | 15:02 |
apachelogger | :/ | 15:03 |
nixternal | because they waste no time pushing a Canonical employee through for core-dev, but hang up on apachelogger who has been in this community far longer than anyone else currently in the queue...they are doing the same with superm1 as well | 15:03 |
ScottK | nixternal: superm1 is scheduled for the next tech board meeting. | 15:04 |
nixternal | wtf | 15:04 |
* smarter is wondering what's happening with his motu application too :] | 15:04 | |
* apachelogger is a 2nd class citzien himself | 15:04 | |
nixternal | good, I am glad mario got through then | 15:04 |
nixternal | apachelogger: I agree :P | 15:04 |
nixternal | I would lean more for 3rd class citizen with you though :p | 15:04 |
ScottK | I think it's mostly MC people being busy. | 15:04 |
nixternal | ScottK: I voted right away and I am never around | 15:05 |
ScottK | Perhaps some people not sure what the right answer is and spend a long time navel gazing. | 15:05 |
apachelogger | nixternal: then I should switch to xubuntu | 15:05 |
nixternal | so it isn't the MC being busy | 15:05 |
ScottK | nixternal: Others haven't voted. Dunno why. | 15:05 |
nixternal | I come on for 15 minutes a day, I check my email once a week | 15:05 |
nixternal | i should have voted -1 for apachelogger since he didn't even add me to his application | 15:06 |
apachelogger | lol | 15:07 |
apachelogger | nixternal: I still love you though | 15:07 |
nixternal | sure you do | 15:07 |
* apachelogger had to browse through 5 neon files in order to find the constant for package revision | 15:08 | |
jtechidna | apachelogger: testbuildan a kate fix | 15:09 |
apachelogger | jtechidna: sounds dangerous | 15:10 |
jtechidna | well, it's a 6-line patch :P | 15:10 |
apachelogger | well | 15:11 |
apachelogger | there we have it | 15:11 |
apachelogger | _patch_ | 15:11 |
jtechidna | heh | 15:11 |
apachelogger | !<3 patches | 15:11 |
ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about 3 patches | 15:11 |
apachelogger | :) | 15:11 |
jtechidna | !patches | 15:11 |
ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about patches | 15:11 |
jtechidna | damn, I know I added something about patches | 15:12 |
jtechidna | or maybe workarounds... | 15:12 |
jtechidna | kubotu: facts about patches | 15:12 |
kubotu | I know nothing about patches | 15:12 |
apachelogger | kubotu: facts about apachelogger | 15:12 |
kubotu | [5/6] apachelogger has a batman pyjama. [6/6] "...and apachelogger hates workarounds" | 15:12 |
nixternal | kubotu: facts about nixternal | 15:13 |
kubotu | I know nothing about nixternal | 15:13 |
nixternal | good, lets keep it that way! | 15:13 |
apachelogger | lol | 15:13 |
rgreening | kubotu: fact #2 | 15:13 |
kubotu | fact #2 of 6: rgreening buries head in sand [from smarter!n=smarter@ubuntu/member/smarter on Wed Oct 01 23:27:17 +0300 2008 in #kubuntu-bunker] | 15:13 |
nixternal | vore: are you going to the pre-party next friday? if so, I need your cell number so I can call you...I am planning on getting to columbus at around 6/7 pm | 15:14 |
nixternal | and will need someone to drink with besides my buddy kevin :P | 15:14 |
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nixternal | shoot | 15:14 |
nixternal | vorian: ^^ | 15:14 |
nixternal | sorry vore | 15:14 |
nixternal | vore: shoot, you are in tennessee...you going to Ohio Linux Fest next week? :) | 15:15 |
vorian | holy | 15:15 |
nixternal | holy what? | 15:15 |
vorian | nothing | 15:15 |
vorian | i'm going | 15:16 |
vorian | I se | 15:16 |
vorian | e | 15:16 |
nixternal | what time and where is this pre-party | 15:16 |
vorian | it's across the street from the conf. center | 15:16 |
vorian | Barleys | 15:16 |
vorian | let me get a linky | 15:16 |
nixternal | groovy, barleys, I have been there before | 15:16 |
vorian | excellent | 15:17 |
vorian | i'll pm my cell | 15:17 |
nixternal | I am ready to drink people pretty | 15:17 |
nixternal | +1 630 445 3860 is my cell | 15:17 |
* Jucato writes that down | 15:17 | |
nixternal | write it down | 15:17 |
vorian | 740.253.9040 | 15:17 |
nixternal | if I see a phone number from 043792479365273475283437828043207672048306752784038042 I will let it go to voice mail :P | 15:18 |
vorian | haha | 15:18 |
Jucato | >:) | 15:18 |
Jucato | you'll only see a number from 1337 :) | 15:18 |
JontheEchidna | heh, Tooltips even work well with vertical panels: http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/Woremar/tooltips2.png | 15:24 |
Riddell | apachelogger: able to turn up at techboard meeting? (#ubuntu-devel) ? | 15:27 |
apachelogger | Riddell: yes | 15:28 |
Riddell | apachelogger: guess that's the thing to do then | 15:29 |
* apachelogger creates a calendar entry | 15:29 | |
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apachelogger | Riddell: bug 276588 | 15:43 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 276588 in kde4libs "package kdelibs5-dev None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdelibs5-dev.list] failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libkjsembed.so', which is also in package libkjsembed-dev" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/276588 | 15:43 |
Riddell | apachelogger: can you connect to upload.ubuntu.com frp? | 15:44 |
Riddell | ftp | 15:44 |
apachelogger | Riddell: no | 15:45 |
Riddell | mm, sysadmins are moving machines around | 15:46 |
* apachelogger is wondering why kdeartwork includes incompatible icon themes | 15:51 | |
Riddell | apachelogger: because kdeartwork has no maintainer | 15:52 |
Riddell | I've tried to hint to ruphy he should do it since he effectivly maintains oxygen from a technical view, but he doesn't seem interested | 15:52 |
apachelogger | Riddell: why does unmaintained stuff get released at all? | 15:52 |
Riddell | shrug, bits of it are useful, it just needs someone to tidy it up | 15:53 |
apachelogger | I see | 15:55 |
apachelogger | Riddell: btw, did you copy 4.1.2 to the members ppa? | 15:57 |
Riddell | apachelogger: yes | 15:58 |
apachelogger | Riddell: oh why, but why? :P | 15:58 |
Riddell | apachelogger: isn't that what needs done? | 15:58 |
apachelogger | Riddell: yeah, doing it about half an hour before KDE publishes the news is good enough though | 15:59 |
Riddell | apachelogger: well KDE was going to publish this morning | 16:00 |
apachelogger | well | 16:00 |
apachelogger | sebas: did another so* get messed up? ;-) | 16:00 |
Riddell | germany is on holiday (group hug day). kde falls apart when germany goes on holiday | 16:01 |
apachelogger | ^_^ | 16:01 |
apachelogger | rofl | 16:01 |
davmor2 | Riddell: ban him from holidays :P | 16:02 |
JontheEchidna | kde4libs always takes so long to compile :( | 16:02 |
* apachelogger finds libs pretty fast actually | 16:04 | |
apachelogger | pim and bindings take long | 16:04 |
Riddell | qt takes longer than anything | 16:04 |
Riddell | (other than openoffice obviously) | 16:05 |
apachelogger | talking about qt, do we have 4.4.3 in the archive yet? | 16:06 |
Riddell | no, rgreening sent it to me but it was waiting for beta freeze and now it's waiting for upload.ubuntu.com | 16:07 |
Riddell | along with a load of other bits | 16:07 |
apachelogger | poor qt | 16:09 |
rgreening | I've been running the 4.4.3 eversince I built it. Works fine here | 16:09 |
* apachelogger screwed up the complete changelogs for 4.1.2 | 16:09 | |
rgreening | Riddell: I assume the kwin branch removal to kdebase-workspace was also uploaded now? | 16:10 |
JontheEchidna | we could probably backport the fix from trunk even if suse hasn't updated their branch^ | 16:10 |
apachelogger | that sounds suicidal TBH | 16:11 |
JontheEchidna | yeah, that patch is HUGE LIEK XBOX | 16:11 |
Riddell | rgreening: I'm trying an updated version of the patch, but it's also waiting on upload.u.c to reappear | 16:12 |
jussi01 | wow, intrepid is blazing fast compared to hardy kde4... :D | 16:13 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: did you fwd the tootip diff to Riddell for inclusion? Real spiffy :) | 16:13 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: would you mind reviewing the tooltips patch sometime? http://paste.ubuntu.com/53441/ | 16:13 |
JontheEchidna | rgreening: ha | 16:13 |
rgreening | lol | 16:13 |
rgreening | read my minsd | 16:13 |
rgreening | s/minsd/mind | 16:13 |
JontheEchidna | just like when you joined right after I announced working tooltips | 16:13 |
rgreening | haha | 16:13 |
rgreening | too funny | 16:13 |
rgreening | kubotu: order JontheEchidna a Irn Bru | 16:14 |
* kubotu slides jontheechidna a irn bru down the bar to rgreening | 16:14 | |
sebas | apachelogger: no, sysadmin mia ;) | 16:14 |
rgreening | doh! | 16:14 |
JontheEchidna | kubotu: help order | 16:14 |
kubotu | You may also have a look at 'help order goods/machines/replies' ... Placing an order is actually easy as hell. 'order GOOD' => GOOD gets slid down the bar. 'order GOOD for NICK' => GOOD get slid down the bar to NICK. 'order GOOD for everyone' => everyone gets GOOD (in case the good is finite it will end as you place this order). 'order birthday package' => in case you want to make a special birthday present ;-) | 16:14 |
rgreening | ah | 16:15 |
rgreening | kubotu: order a Irn Bru for JontheEchidna | 16:15 |
* kubotu slides a irn bru down the bar to JontheEchidna | 16:15 | |
rgreening | better | 16:15 |
JontheEchidna | rgreening: so did you get the tooltips working on your box? | 16:15 |
apachelogger | sebas: if KDE had made me sysadmin... :P | 16:16 |
rgreening | haven't had a chance to dl them. I need to downgrade my version (save rev as yours) to upgrade | 16:16 |
rgreening | s/save/same | 16:16 |
JontheEchidna | ah, right | 16:16 |
apachelogger | seriously | 16:17 |
apachelogger | oh my picard! | 16:17 |
apachelogger | sebas: is it me or is the changelog really done manually without using the xml file? | 16:18 |
sebas | Dunno, it looks buggered | 16:18 |
apachelogger | that would support my theory | 16:18 |
sebas | I am with you then | 16:19 |
sebas | I'm actually glad if it's done at all | 16:19 |
apachelogger | looks a bit short | 16:20 |
apachelogger | sebas: maybe we should just tweak carsten's create_changelog script and parse the might commit logs | 16:22 |
* apachelogger drinks yet another cup of awfully cold coffee | 16:22 | |
JontheEchidna | ~order hot coffee for apachelogger | 16:22 |
* kubotu slides hot coffee down the bar to apachelogger | 16:22 | |
apachelogger | hm | 16:23 |
sebas | apachelogger: not all commits are interesting for the changelog (that's what the .txt links that are broken are there for) | 16:23 |
apachelogger | I fixed them :P | 16:23 |
* apachelogger fixes all the stuff none else cares about :P | 16:23 | |
apachelogger | sebas: we could introduce new keywords | 16:23 |
apachelogger | FEATURE: blah | 16:23 |
sebas | I love you! | 16:23 |
apachelogger | IMPROVEMENT: blah blah | 16:23 |
apachelogger | \o/ | 16:24 |
sebas | Yeah, it should anyway filter out all bugs | 16:24 |
sebas | That's be useful, those just belong into the changelog no matter what | 16:24 |
apachelogger | *nod* | 16:24 |
sebas | Not even if my cat started complaining in chinese right now | 16:24 |
* apachelogger thinks that would be quite hilarious | 16:25 | |
sebas | And quite unreasonable. It's far too lazy to have any say. | 16:26 |
sebas | And it usually doesn't move it's hairy ass unless it expects food. | 16:26 |
apachelogger | that reminds me of JontheEchidna :P | 16:27 |
* apachelogger scuttles off | 16:27 | |
JontheEchidna | :P | 16:27 |
rgreening | oh my | 16:27 |
JontheEchidna | I guess it's what I get for slacking off on backports | 16:28 |
JontheEchidna | Arby deserves a medal | 16:29 |
Arby | he does, for what? | 16:29 |
JontheEchidna | for doing most of the backports for 4.1.2 | 16:29 |
Arby | *shrug* if it leaves other people free to do the hard stuff it's all good :) | 16:30 |
Arby | then I don't have to :) | 16:30 |
apachelogger | uh | 16:32 |
apachelogger | I think I fixed neon | 16:32 |
JontheEchidna | :D | 16:34 |
* JontheEchidna misses his trunky amarok | 16:34 | |
apachelogger | well, it gets more broken every day :P | 16:34 |
apachelogger | "It's not broken, it's Amarok" | 16:35 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: next time you do the release screenshot again | 16:35 |
JontheEchidna | heh, ok | 16:36 |
apachelogger | if http://www.kubuntu.org/system/files/kde4_1_2.png was any more blurry it would count as modern art | 16:36 |
JontheEchidna | bah, where did my sound go | 16:39 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: with germany on group hug day? | 16:41 |
JontheEchidna | probably | 16:41 |
apachelogger | right | 16:47 |
apachelogger | Riddell: please approve kgrubeditor | 16:47 |
Riddell | apachelogger: that's on my todo list :) | 16:48 |
Riddell | apachelogger: remind me again the rationale | 16:48 |
Riddell | we currently have an unstable version and it's stable? | 16:48 |
apachelogger | Riddell: the version we have is undstable compared with the new one | 16:48 |
apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: fixed a couple of bugs | 16:48 |
apachelogger | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/53472/ | 16:49 |
Artemis_Fowl | yep, and one of the bugs was kind of important since it caused a crash upon launching kgrubeditor | 16:50 |
Riddell | ta da http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2 | 16:54 |
smarter | :) | 16:56 |
smarter | "Submitted on Wed, 2008-10-01" | 16:56 |
smarter | publication date would be more appropriate :P | 16:56 |
Riddell | thanks to whoever submitted it | 16:57 |
* apachelogger fixed the date and removed the reference to kde.org since it still says embargo :P | 16:58 | |
Riddell | thanks | 16:59 |
apachelogger | sebas: fixed the changelog | 16:59 |
rgreening | nice :P | 17:00 |
* Arby applauds the release and heads for the pub to celebrate | 17:00 | |
Arby | and because it's 5pm on a friday :) | 17:00 |
rgreening | only 1:30here... | 17:05 |
* rgreening sneaks a drink under the desk | 17:05 | |
JontheEchidna | 12:05pm | 17:05 |
apachelogger | 18:09 | 17:09 |
apachelogger | ~time | 17:09 |
apachelogger | hm | 17:09 |
JontheEchidna | Holy crap: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18156365/iconsallwrong.png | 17:10 |
JontheEchidna | bug 277458 | 17:10 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 277458 in ubuntu "intrepid kde4 icons are all screwed up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277458 | 17:10 |
jussi01 | err, that looks like when I used crystal icons on hardy... | 17:12 |
rgreening | yep. wonder if they simply change the icon theme instead of deleting will it fix it. | 17:13 |
apachelogger | ~time | 17:13 |
kubotu | apachelogger: Europe - Vienna - Fri Oct 03 18:13 CEST | 17:13 |
rgreening | ~time | 17:13 |
kubotu | rgreening: use time set <Continent/City> to set your timezone. | 17:13 |
rgreening | time set America/St_Johns | 17:14 |
rgreening | doh | 17:14 |
apachelogger | ~ | 17:14 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: we can't do anything about it really | 17:14 |
rgreening | ~time set America/St_Johns | 17:14 |
kubotu | Ok, I'll remember that rgreening is on the America/St_Johns timezone | 17:14 |
rgreening | ~time | 17:14 |
kubotu | rgreening: America - St Johns - Fri Oct 03 13:44 NDT | 17:14 |
rgreening | whee | 17:14 |
JontheEchidna | ~time set America/New_York | 17:15 |
kubotu | Ok, I'll remember that JontheEchidna is on the America/New_York timezone | 17:15 |
apachelogger | Riddell: if we set the icon theme in etc/kde4/kdeglobals would the user still be able to change it? | 17:15 |
JontheEchidna | ~time | 17:15 |
kubotu | JontheEchidna: America - New York - Fri Oct 03 12:15 EDT | 17:15 |
apachelogger | btw | 17:16 |
apachelogger | ~time rgreening | 17:16 |
kubotu | America - St Johns - Fri Oct 03 13:46 NDT | 17:16 |
apachelogger | very useful :) | 17:16 |
rgreening | yeah. I agre. It's easy to foget we are all in diff tz's | 17:17 |
Riddell | apachelogger: yes | 17:17 |
smarter | ~time set Europe/France | 17:17 |
kubotu | Europe/France is an invalid timezone. Format is Continent/City or a two character country code. | 17:17 |
smarter | ~time set Europe/Paris | 17:17 |
kubotu | Ok, I'll remember that smarter is on the Europe/Paris timezone | 17:17 |
apachelogger | Riddell: oh, that wouldn't help anyway :S the user already set a configured scheme so it would override etc in any case | 17:18 |
rgreening | smarter: what part of Paris? I stayed at the Tour d'Eiffel Hotel on my vacation (July 3rd) this year. | 17:19 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: the problem is that we can't use kconf_update to drain the setting from kdeglobals due to /etc/kde4/kdeglobals which for some reason gets higher priority | 17:19 |
apachelogger | the only solution would be to do it in postinst of kdelibs5 | 17:19 |
smarter | rgreening: I don't live in Paris, just in France and there's only one timezone :) | 17:19 |
apachelogger | i.e. sed $HOMEs | 17:20 |
rgreening | oh... hrm | 17:20 |
smarter | rgreening: https://launchpad.net/~smarter to see where I live :) | 17:20 |
smarter | rgreening: also, it's Tour Eiffel, no "d'" here :P | 17:20 |
apachelogger | almost ch isn't it? | 17:20 |
* apachelogger clicks | 17:20 | |
smarter | apachelogger: yup | 17:20 |
smarter | at the border | 17:20 |
apachelogger | ch ain't got good beer :P | 17:20 |
rgreening | smarter: my French is tres Horrible, non? | 17:20 |
smarter | ;) | 17:21 |
apachelogger | si | 17:21 |
apachelogger | oh, that was italian | 17:21 |
smarter | you spellt these two words right, that's not bad (: | 17:21 |
smarter | apachelogger: actually, si exists in french | 17:21 |
apachelogger | well | 17:21 |
apachelogger | it wouldn't make any sense here, would it? | 17:21 |
smarter | yes it does :P | 17:22 |
smarter | when someone asks a negative questions, you answer "si" instead of "oui" | 17:22 |
smarter | hmm, no it doesn't make any sense here, I'm just being stupid ^^' | 17:22 |
apachelogger | exactly | 17:22 |
smarter | anyway, even if they don't have good beer, swiss have good chocolate :) | 17:23 |
apachelogger | jussi01: btw, I could have installed my own ruby as well :P | 17:23 |
rgreening | and milk maids | 17:23 |
* apachelogger currently overrides system ruby with 2 plugins | 17:23 | |
jussi01 | apachelogger: cool, I dont mind, there is plenty of space :) | 17:24 |
apachelogger | smarter: belgium got better chocolate :P | 17:24 |
apachelogger | jussi01: I think I am too lazy though ;-) | 17:24 |
apachelogger | besides, that is going to end up like on kollide | 17:24 |
apachelogger | I have half a system in my home there | 17:25 |
apachelogger | bloody gentoo isn't usable gentoo ;-) | 17:25 |
* tanderson notices the gentoo highlight | 17:26 | |
apachelogger | haha | 17:26 |
apachelogger | tanderson: is there any way to make gentoo usable for servers? | 17:26 |
tanderson | apachelogger: sure, I use it on one myself | 17:26 |
apachelogger | probably our admin's fault then | 17:27 |
apachelogger | stuff breaks all the time | 17:27 |
tanderson | oh yeah, it's easy break if you're not careful | 17:27 |
apachelogger | *nod* | 17:27 |
* apachelogger scuttles over to xubuntu-devel for coffee | 17:30 | |
NCommander | hey apachelogger | 17:52 |
apachelogger | ahoy NCommander | 17:52 |
NCommander | apachelogger, I like your core dev application ;-) | 17:53 |
apachelogger | :) | 17:53 |
Riddell | hmm? | 17:54 |
NCommander | Riddell, apachelogger wrote his application as a ... er ... well, application :-) | 17:55 |
Riddell | oh yes, genius that was | 17:56 |
NCommander | I'll have to think of something to out do him for my application :-) | 17:56 |
seele | have there been any reports of people having trouble upgrading to beta from the kde4 remix? | 17:57 |
seele | i dont see any comments on the feedback page, but had two people ask me about it | 17:57 |
JontheEchidna | I think there were some | 17:57 |
Riddell | seele: I had trouble if that counts :) | 17:57 |
Riddell | but that was only from the alternate CD | 17:58 |
seele | Riddell: if *you* had trouble then we'er doomed | 17:58 |
Riddell | through internet was fine | 17:58 |
apachelogger | NCommander: good luck with that :P | 17:58 |
Riddell | NCommander: write it in python. that's much more sensible :) | 17:58 |
NCommander | OOOH | 17:58 |
* NCommander will write it in x86 asm | 17:58 | |
seele | hmm.. i guess i can try a hardy remix upgrade after work tonight | 18:00 |
apachelogger | Riddell: ruby! :P | 18:00 |
* apachelogger finds that changelog parser carsten wrote quite confusing | 18:01 | |
NCommander | apachelogger, what did you write your application in anyway? | 18:03 |
apachelogger | NCommander: C++/Qt | 18:04 |
ScottK | JontheEchidna: Tooltips works great here. I think for some users this will be a real boost for Kubuntu Intrepid. | 18:09 |
ScottK | rgreening: Thanks for your help on it too. | 18:10 |
ScottK | Riddell: Thumbs up from me for JontheEchidna's task bar tooltip change. | 18:10 |
rgreening | np. I had a small part. this patch will seperate us from some of the others... | 18:10 |
rgreening | too bad we can't backport the updated systray. | 18:11 |
rgreening | or can we... | 18:11 |
Riddell | ScottK: groovy, working for me too, I'll upload shortly | 18:11 |
ScottK | Don't go too far ... | 18:11 |
ScottK | Great. | 18:11 |
rgreening | :P | 18:11 |
Riddell | rgreening: probably not, but what's updated in it? | 18:11 |
rgreening | Riddell: the transparancy issue is fixed AFAIK | 18:12 |
rgreening | quite annoying atm | 18:12 |
Riddell | rgreening: uploading kdegraphics | 18:12 |
rgreening | cool | 18:12 |
rgreening | Riddell: and how goes the kdebase-workspace testing on the updated kwin branch patch | 18:13 |
Riddell | rgreening: working well here | 18:13 |
rgreening | awesome. another boost for Kubuntu | 18:13 |
Riddell | just need to edit .install files so we get than all important cube effect installed | 18:14 |
rgreening | kool | 18:14 |
JontheEchidna | oh, so that's why I couldn't find it :P | 18:14 |
rgreening | lol | 18:15 |
JontheEchidna | probably why the desktop switching effect combobox was empty | 18:15 |
rgreening | ah.. could be | 18:15 |
rgreening | though.... | 18:15 |
rgreening | that's a moc thing and should still be generated | 18:15 |
rgreening | i believe | 18:15 |
* rgreening is learning to write plasmoids... | 18:16 | |
JontheEchidna | anybody working on anything kde4libs related? I'm probably going to have a kde4libs update that will need sponsored | 18:16 |
JontheEchidna | (Bug 277258) | 18:16 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 277258 in kde4libs "Kate KDE4.1 scrolling with the mouse on the scroll bar moves the bar but not the text" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277258 | 18:16 |
JontheEchidna | Still might be a while before it's all built | 18:19 |
rgreening | Riddell: you uploading my changes for qt 4.4.3 as well... | 18:21 |
Riddell | rgreening: yep | 18:21 |
rgreening | cool... | 18:22 |
Riddell | 100MB upload, wonder how long that'll take | 18:22 |
rgreening | Is there an easy way to downgrade from local installed packages and prefer those in a repo (older version #'s). | 18:22 |
Riddell | apt pinning maybe, it's fiddly as I mind | 18:23 |
JontheEchidna | rgreening: if you still have old debs in /etc/apt/archive you could dpkg those | 18:23 |
JontheEchidna | then apt-get update to the ones in the ppa | 18:24 |
JontheEchidna | er | 18:24 |
JontheEchidna | /var/cache/apt/archive | 18:24 |
rgreening | that's what I have been doing. Just though there may have been a easier way. I think the pin is similar to Gentoo's masking. I may give that a shot. | 18:25 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: btw, didja get my adept sidebar patch? ;D | 18:27 |
JontheEchidna | By the time Intrepid is released Riddell will have patches coming out his ears | 18:28 |
apachelogger | *nod* | 18:31 |
apachelogger | oh | 18:31 |
apachelogger | awesome | 18:31 |
apachelogger | sebas: basic commit log parsing works | 18:31 |
Riddell | JontheEchidna: yes, also on today's todo list | 18:31 |
JontheEchidna | nice, thanks. :) | 18:31 |
jjesse | is there a reason i keep getting notification of incomplete lanague support of english? and when i can't select english because it is greyed out | 18:33 |
Riddell | jjesse: it's a beastie | 18:35 |
jjesse | oh? | 18:35 |
Riddell | we'll fix i | 18:36 |
Riddell | we'll fix it | 18:36 |
jjesse | i'm sure you were,just wondered if it was something ive done to my system | 18:37 |
Riddell | no | 18:37 |
* ScottK had to manually change the selected mixer in kmix to get mute/volume control to work (it worked in Hardy without intervention) from 'pcm' to 'front'. Bug or just something people have to change sometimes? | 18:38 | |
JontheEchidna | hmm, it's set to pcm here but volume control works for me. (I has no mute keyboard button) | 18:40 |
ScottK | Mute keyboard button works as well as clicking on kmix. Volume keys show the volume, but won't change it. Kmix slider works fine. | 18:41 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: sidebar patch? | 18:45 |
JontheEchidna | rgreening: look at Okular's sidebar and then look at Adept's | 18:45 |
JontheEchidna | Adept uses Okular's sidebar code, but Adept's copy is from KDE 4.0 and looks somewhat crappy | 18:46 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: adept 3 looks crappy in general (IMO) | 18:47 |
* rgreening liked the old adept... | 18:47 | |
JontheEchidna | old adept was slow and crashy | 18:48 |
JontheEchidna | Quick and un-crashy is my favorite adept3 feature | 18:48 |
rgreening | I never had a hitch with old one... lucky I guess. | 18:49 |
JontheEchidna | Plus we got to close 75% of our Adept bugs because of Adept3 | 18:49 |
rgreening | lol | 18:49 |
JontheEchidna | The biggest peeve with Adept3 I have is it's searching | 18:50 |
JontheEchidna | *its | 18:50 |
rgreening | I hate the missing icons in adept. all the '?' icons drives me nutz | 18:50 |
* JontheEchidna never uses adept installer | 18:51 | |
rgreening | I'd rather see no icon thant the '?'... | 18:51 |
rgreening | I should add a patch to show no icon rather than the '?' | 18:51 |
rgreening | the '?' makes me think it's broken... at least that's what general users will likely think. | 18:52 |
rgreening | anyone else think so? | 18:53 |
JontheEchidna | there's a bug about that actually | 18:53 |
JontheEchidna | from adept2 | 18:53 |
JontheEchidna | which we couldn't close, hehe | 18:53 |
rgreening | hmm... got the bug #. | 18:53 |
NCommander | Riddell, mind doing me a favor in a little big | 18:53 |
rgreening | I may try and tackle it | 18:53 |
NCommander | What does APT stand for specifically | 18:55 |
NCommander | Advanced Packaging Tool, right? | 18:55 |
NCommander | (or Package) | 18:55 |
asfak | since last 3-4 days i am unable to drag gnome apps (synaptic, firefox) from kicker to desktop. | 18:57 |
ScottK | NCommander: You could always work on Bug 56125 | 18:57 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 56125 in apt "apt-get moo doesnt look like a cow" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56125 | 18:57 |
NCommander | ScottK, rofl, I'm writing a manpage for adept | 18:58 |
* NCommander has had that on his todo list for awhile | 18:58 | |
ScottK | Great. | 18:58 |
NCommander | persia gave me some pointers and tools to help me get started on writing a manpage | 18:59 |
ScottK | rgreening: If you're going to work on Adept, would you consider seeing if it's feasible to get back the 'show details' option in the udpdater? | 18:59 |
NCommander | But I've never written one from scratch, so I'm looking for a second pair of eyes to look it over | 19:00 |
rgreening | Scottk,NCommander: http://polishlinux.org/apps/cli/ascii-art-fun-cowsay-and-figlet/ | 19:00 |
rgreening | a good cow | 19:00 |
rgreening | :) | 19:00 |
* NCommander perfers aptitude -vvvvvvv moo | 19:00 | |
ScottK | rgreening: The only good cow is cooking on my grill. | 19:00 |
* NCommander wants to try using a flamethrower on his side of beef | 19:00 | |
rgreening | lol | 19:00 |
JontheEchidna | ScottK, rgreening: I believe Scott's talking about bug 275219 | 19:00 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 275219 in adeptmgr "(Kubuntu Intrepid) In Adept installer, the "more" link shown when you click on an application is non-functional" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/275219 | 19:00 |
rgreening | I prefer my steaks on High 5 min per side. :) | 19:01 |
rgreening | and 1 inch thick | 19:01 |
NCommander | I perfer mine red and rare | 19:01 |
NCommander | (ground beef however I perfer quite dead) | 19:01 |
JontheEchidna | I like mine medium | 19:01 |
ScottK | NCommander: The downside of the flamethrower approach is that if there's any incomplete combustion it ends up tasking like gasoline. | 19:01 |
NCommander | Hrm | 19:02 |
* ScottK often orders steak "As long as it doesn't walk off the plate, I'll be happy". | 19:02 | |
NCommander | Maybe I should simply use an explosion to tenderize my steak | 19:02 |
* ScottK is not kidding. | 19:02 | |
JontheEchidna | heh | 19:02 |
NCommander | ScottK, I usually say "Dead, but not so dead I could use it as a tire" | 19:02 |
* JontheEchidna just says "medium please" <.< | 19:03 | |
NCommander | I dunno about you, but if my meat has the consistency of rubber, I'm not happy | 19:03 |
sebas | apachelogger: yay! | 19:04 |
* NCommander looks at adept's source ot see what command line options it takes | 19:05 | |
rgreening | adept needs a moo option and it should being up a pic with the cation 'Got Kubuntu' (as parody of got milk commercials) | 19:06 |
NCommander | It seems that adept's --help lies about accepting command line options | 19:07 |
JontheEchidna | adept takes "installer" and "upgrader" as command lines | 19:08 |
JontheEchidna | or updater | 19:08 |
NCommander | Oh, what do those do specifically? | 19:08 |
JontheEchidna | launch adept in install or updater mode | 19:08 |
JontheEchidna | install is a more user-friendly frontend for installing and removing applications only | 19:09 |
JontheEchidna | (no packages) | 19:09 |
JontheEchidna | updater, well, updates :) | 19:09 |
NCommander | I'm trying to figure out how best to document that | 19:09 |
NCommander | installer seems broken for me | 19:10 |
NCommander | oh wait, just very slow | 19:10 |
* JontheEchidna never uses it aside from testing | 19:10 | |
rgreening | adept; | 19:12 |
rgreening | Arguments: | 19:12 |
rgreening | command Command | 19:12 |
rgreening | lol.. great help | 19:12 |
rgreening | adept doesn't document those commands ... missing feature | 19:17 |
JontheEchidna | I'm sure mornfall would appreciate patches for stuff like that | 19:18 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: that's what I was thinking on doing... | 19:18 |
NCommander | JontheEchidna, are you willing to look over my manpage? | 19:22 |
JontheEchidna | sure | 19:22 |
NCommander | JontheEchidna, http://paste.ubuntu.com/53510/ | 19:23 |
JontheEchidna | I'd change "Launchs adept in updater more which is a streamlined interface for handling updating the system." to "Launches adept in updater mode which offers a streamlined interface for handling package updates" | 19:25 |
JontheEchidna | more -> mode in any case | 19:25 |
JontheEchidna | other than that, lookin' good | 19:25 |
NCommander | \o/! | 19:28 |
NCommander | JontheEchidna, do you work on adept in Debian? | 19:28 |
JontheEchidna | nope | 19:28 |
JontheEchidna | I don't really do anything in Debian tbh | 19:28 |
NCommander | v.v | 19:29 |
JontheEchidna | <.< | 19:29 |
NCommander | ^.6 | 19:29 |
NCommander | argh | 19:29 |
NCommander | so much for IRC DDR | 19:29 |
NCommander | Riddell, care to sponsor an upload giving adept a manpage? | 19:34 |
Riddell | NCommander: can do yes | 19:35 |
NCommander | \o/ | 19:35 |
rgreening | NCommander/Riddell: I am also workng on adding the missing help lines to adept. will have debdiff shortly. | 19:35 |
NCommander | rgreening, if you just want to roll my mainpage into your patch, we could do tat, make it a single upload | 19:36 |
rgreening | sure. | 19:36 |
rgreening | sweet. adept help now more helpful | 19:40 |
NCommander | \o/ | 19:41 |
rgreening | Riddell: how do we handle the strings for translations? | 19:41 |
jjesse | rgreening: did you write a help manual for adept? | 19:41 |
NCommander | rgreening, I forwarded it to Debian so they should benefit from it too | 19:41 |
NCommander | jjesse, no, I did | 19:41 |
jjesse | NCommander: really? | 19:41 |
jjesse | that's awesome, i've had one i'm been working on in a branch but haven't had time to complete it | 19:42 |
rgreening | jjesse: I added the command line help to adept. | 19:42 |
jjesse | not a full manual? | 19:42 |
rgreening | NCommander did the man | 19:42 |
NCommander | jjesse, no, I wrote a manpage | 19:42 |
jjesse | oh cool, mind if i borrow from your man page to compete the manual then? | 19:42 |
jjesse | i would totally credit you | 19:43 |
NCommander | jjesse, go for it | 19:43 |
* NCommander didn't even take credit in the manpage for writing it :-) | 19:43 | |
Riddell | rgreening: depends on the context | 19:45 |
rgreening | NCommander... got your e-mail. so, looks like I'll need to integrate it with adept. Did you already do that (i.e. have a diff/debdiff?) | 19:45 |
NCommander | no | 19:45 |
NCommander | I just finished writing it | 19:45 |
Riddell | rgreening: what are the missing help lines? | 19:46 |
NCommander | If you want me to do that, finish your work, upload, then ping me | 19:46 |
rgreening | Riddell: see paste here... http://paste.ubuntu.com/53514/ | 19:46 |
rgreening | NCommander: no problem. Was just curious. | 19:47 |
rgreening | Riddell: are the strings ok, or do you want to fiddle with them? | 19:47 |
rgreening | Riddell: there was no command line help in Adept for the installer or updater command lines | 19:47 |
rgreening | this fixes. tested and verified | 19:48 |
Riddell | rgreening: that's fine, would be nice if there was a way to say that no command will launch the manager | 19:49 |
* NCommander looks at his RS/6000 | 19:49 | |
rgreening | true. thought about that one. Let me read over main.cpp some more.... | 19:49 |
Riddell | rgreening: the translations get extracted into a .pot file at build time which gets put into rosetta where people can translate it | 19:50 |
rgreening | kool. | 19:50 |
Riddell | normally we wouldn't update strings this late but rosetta doesn't even have many strings imported so it's moot | 19:50 |
rgreening | and this isn't a showstopper anyway. | 19:50 |
Riddell | NCommander: where's your patch? | 19:55 |
NCommander | Riddell, emailed | 19:58 |
* apachelogger notes that he once again managed to create the most bizzare code block | 19:59 | |
rgreening | kubotu: fact #3 | 19:59 |
kubotu | fact #3 of 6: JontheEchidna needs moar coffeeee [from JontheEchidna!n=jonathan@ubuntu/member/jontheechidna on Wed Oct 01 23:27:52 +0300 2008 in #kubuntu-bunker] | 19:59 |
rgreening | nope.. wrong fact | 19:59 |
rgreening | kubotu: fact #4 | 19:59 |
kubotu | fact #4 of 6: smarter is not smarter [from rgreening!n=rgreenin@pool1.corpnat-toroon.gt.ca on Wed Oct 01 23:28:23 +0300 2008 in #kubuntu-bunker] | 19:59 |
rgreening | nope.. | 20:00 |
JontheEchidna | kubotu: facts about rgreening | 20:00 |
kubotu | [2/6] rgreening buries head in sand | 20:00 |
rgreening | :) | 20:00 |
apachelogger | http://paste.ubuntu.com/53517/ \o/ | 20:02 |
rgreening | Riddell: let me know if this looks good and about the wording: http://paste.ubuntu.com/53518/ | 20:03 |
Riddell | rgreening: great | 20:03 |
rgreening | Ok, NCommander sent me the man page. Not sure how to integrate man pages yet... do you want me to send the diff for this now or wait until I get the manpage figured out.. | 20:04 |
* NCommander can wait ;-) | 20:04 | |
JontheEchidna | Riddell, ScottK: bug 277258 needs sponsoring | 20:05 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 277258 in kde4libs "Kate KDE4.1 scrolling with the mouse on the scroll bar moves the bar but not the text" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277258 | 20:05 |
rgreening | Riddell ^ see my last about the manpage | 20:05 |
* ScottK looks | 20:05 | |
Riddell | rgreening: it depends in what format the manpage is | 20:05 |
rgreening | hmm... NCommander e-mailed you I believe the same as I got | 20:06 |
rgreening | Riddell: ^ | 20:06 |
rgreening | I'll send the debdiff for what I just changed... | 20:06 |
NCommander | Riddell, raw man :-) | 20:07 |
NCommander | (aka nroff) | 20:07 |
Riddell | just needs a debian/manpages file then with the name of the manpage | 20:08 |
rgreening | oh. ok, I'll test that | 20:09 |
rgreening | and send with my change. | 20:09 |
ScottK | JontheEchidna: I'll sponsor it. I had to redo debian/changelog because apachelogger already uploaded ubuntu2. | 20:12 |
JontheEchidna | oh, and then it merged changelogs | 20:13 |
JontheEchidna | meh | 20:13 |
apachelogger | ...if we were using bzr ... and bzr would read debian/changelog before trying to merge ... this stuff wouldn't happen | 20:14 |
ScottK | apachelogger: No, you'd be sitting there waiting for it to finish updating instead of doing actual work. | 20:15 |
apachelogger | ... if bzr was written with sensible design and language ... we wouldn't have to be sitting | 20:16 |
apachelogger | ScottK: It's not like bzr is eating your CPU, is it? | 20:17 |
ScottK | No, it's the upload/download with LP that takes an eternity. | 20:17 |
apachelogger | well, I usually do other stuff while bzr is at work, so I barely notice | 20:17 |
Riddell | ScottK: let me know if your upload gets accepted | 20:25 |
ScottK | Riddell: Will do. | 20:30 |
ScottK | Test build is still building ... | 20:30 |
rgreening | Riddell: I created the manpages dir and put the manpage in a filed named adept. Never built/installed it. missing something? | 20:30 |
Riddell | should be called adept.1 | 20:32 |
Riddell | the file should be called manpages and contain one line with the name of the manpage file | 20:32 |
Riddell | debian/adept.1 | 20:33 |
Riddell | for example | 20:33 |
rgreening | ah | 20:33 |
* rgreening slaps his forehead | 20:33 | |
Riddell | man dh_installman | 20:33 |
rgreening | good to know | 20:33 |
rgreening | ty | 20:34 |
rgreening | Riddell: adept diff sent | 20:46 |
rgreening | ok, offline ofr a few hours. l8r | 20:47 |
Riddell | apachelogger: hmm, amarok 2 beta doesn't start here | 20:55 |
Riddell | <unknown program name>(4831)/: Communication problem with "amarok" , it probably crashed. | 20:55 |
Riddell | JontheEchidna, NCommander: that's the adept upload done | 20:59 |
JontheEchidna | :D | 21:00 |
JontheEchidna | Thanks Riddell | 21:00 |
NCommander | \o\ /o/ |o\ | 21:00 |
JontheEchidna | |o| <- Tie Fighter | 21:01 |
Riddell | tooltips are up too incase you missed that | 21:02 |
smarter | ooh, http://doc.trolltech.com/4.4/ is greener | 21:08 |
JontheEchidna | Does that mean KDe's new color is green? | 21:09 |
ScottK | kde4libs is still building and I'm heading out for a while. | 21:12 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: are you going to blog about 4.1.2? | 22:16 |
JontheEchidna | Sure | 22:16 |
apachelogger | perfect | 22:20 |
* apachelogger stops ruby haxx0ring and goes cuddling | 22:21 | |
ScottK | TMI thank you very much. | 22:22 |
Riddell | apachelogger: who's getting cuddles? | 22:23 |
ScottK | JontheEchidna: kde4libs uploaded. Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu. | 22:29 |
JontheEchidna | ScottK: you're welcome | 22:29 |
JontheEchidna | way easier to do than tooltips :P | 22:29 |
ScottK | ;=). | 22:30 |
ScottK | Yes, well that tooltips one is a huge deal for me, I really appreciate it. | 22:30 |
ScottK | Riddell: I got accepted mail for my upload. | 22:34 |
ScottK | Looks like kdegraphics is stuck in New. | 22:36 |
ScottK | Riddell: Did you upload the kdebase-workspace update with the tooltips change? | 22:37 |
ScottK | If you did, it looks to me like Soyuz ate it. | 22:38 |
JontheEchidna | ScottK: workspace finally went through | 23:49 |
JontheEchidna | Get:27 http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main qt4-doc 4.4.3-0ubuntu1 [52.8MB] | 23:52 |
JontheEchidna | dang, that's big | 23:52 |
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