Linux_Galoremicro: check the last line few lines of you /etc/X11/xorg.conf file00:00
Linux_GaloreLordCrc: no00:00
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LordCrcLinux_Galore: ah well, except for the extra time, is there any downside to install->upgrade, or should i just grab a fresh cd?00:01
Linux_GaloreLordCrc: if you are asking such a question it tells me you are pretty new thus 8.10 will be beyond you right now as it is alpha00:01
Linux_GaloreLordCrc: grab a fresh disk00:01
Linux_GaloreLordCrc: 8.10 is far from complete right now00:02
LordCrcLinux_Galore: aaaight, cheers :) and http://www.kubuntu.org/news/8.10-beta :D00:02
microSection "Extensions"Option"Composite""Enable"EndSection00:02
Linux_Galoremicro: you need to change Enable to "Disable"00:02
LordCrcok, perhaps ill just go with 8.04 then for now00:03
* Linux_Galore is on 8.10 but knows enough to hack out the bugs00:03
microhow can I save it from kate? or do i have to do it from console?00:04
LordCrcaaight, cheers then :)00:04
Linux_Galoremicro: you need to open kate with sudo  ie sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf00:04
Linux_Galoremicro: only admin can change a system file00:05
ninjafuryHi. I'm on intrepid, and everytime I boot up, I have to manually adjust mixer settings in the volume panel to get sound. Anyway to save settings?00:05
Dr1Anyone know why cp /src/dir /dest/dir -apurv is not copying all the files and folders from an XP PC (I have R permissions to them)?00:06
microI know00:06
microkate command not found... hmm00:06
Linux_GaloreDr1: need a capital R00:07
ninjafuryI'm using ALSA and not pulse I think00:07
ninjafurymicro: just use nano00:07
Linux_Galorealsa -store00:08
Dr1micro: u do?00:08
Linux_Galorealsactl -store00:08
Linux_Galorealsactl store   without the switch sorry00:09
Linux_Galorebeen ages since I had to use that command00:09
ninjafuryLinux_Galore: and it saves everything? do you know where the config file is located?00:10
Linux_Galoreninjafury: not of the top of my head00:10
microwhy it hasn't opened the file but created a new instead? am I so stupid?00:11
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Linux_Galoremicro: means you did a typo00:11
Linux_Galorenano wont magically open a file if the path is wrong00:11
Linux_Galoreit creates a blank new one00:11
mefisto__use tab completion to avoid typos00:12
ninjafuryLinux_Galore: found it in the man page of alsactl. Thanks00:12
microsudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf is there anything wrong?00:13
Linux_GaloreI'm finding the lock and unlock stuff in kde4 to be very pedantic00:14
Linux_Galoremicro: X1100:14
Linux_Galorenot x1100:14
microI need to get used to it ...and I want00:15
Linux_Galoremicro: learn to use autocomplete (press tab key)  if you did you would have realises x[tab]  doesnt work thus there must be a typo00:16
microyeah it makes sence =P00:18
microso now restart?00:18
Linux_GaloreIm amazed Ubuntu doesnt enable the autocomplete with the "ignore case = yes" enabled by default00:18
Linux_Galoremicro: log out then hit ctrl alt backspace00:18
Linux_Galoremicro but first00:19
Linux_Galoremicro: turn the effetc off in look and feel section in kcontrol00:19
Linux_Galorein the window section from memory under look and feel00:20
JuJuBeeLinux_Galore: They are unlocked already and I cannot move them00:20
Linux_Galoredid you click on the half moon on the right00:21
JuJuBeeOf course00:21
Linux_Galorebeware it wont allow you to place a widget were something already resides00:22
Linux_Galoreyou should get the move arrow (looks like a compas cross)00:22
Linux_Galoreif you have done it right00:22
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JuJuBeeI am not talking about moving widgets on the deskop, but in the lower pannel (taskbar)00:23
Linux_GaloreI just moved a widget to confirm and it works00:23
Linux_Galoreand it does00:23
snarksteri just bought an acer aspire 6930 laptop anyone have any luck with kubuntu on those?00:24
microGUI effects?00:24
Linux_Galoremicro: turn them off00:24
mefisto__JuJuBee: click the widget, then move it00:24
microalready turned off00:24
Linux_Galoremicro: just log out now and press ctrl alt backspace00:25
micrologging out...see you soon... I hope :D00:25
Linux_Galorethen log in again00:25
ubuntoildoes anyone knows about kde4 and nvidia drivers issues ??00:28
Linux_Galoreubuntoil: broken00:29
Linux_Galoresame as ati00:29
Linux_Galoreso I dont use them right now00:29
ubuntoilLinux_Galore: what do I use then ??00:30
Linux_Galoreubuntoil: use the nv driver00:30
ubuntoilLinux_Galore: and then no issues ??00:31
Linux_Galoreie change Driver = "nvidia" to Driver = "nv"  in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file00:31
Linux_Galoreubuntoil: none other than no 3D support00:31
ubuntoilLinux_Galore: what do you mean, if I have the proprio drivers and just change my xorg.conf, it's gonna work ??00:31
Linux_Galoreubuntoil: yes00:31
Linux_Galoreubuntoil: or just use kde300:32
Linux_Galoreand it works fine00:32
ubuntoilLinux_Galore: which is gonna be a little bit more difficult with the coming (K)ubuntu00:32
Linux_Galoreubuntoil: yeah,Im on intrepid and the xorg server is totally different00:33
Linux_Galorethus the proprietry drivers dont work at all00:33
ubuntoilLinux_Galore: shall I wait till this issue is fixed before upgrading (maybe 9.04)00:34
ubuntoilLinux_Galore: not like I'm crazy about update but....00:34
Linux_Galoreubuntoil: should be fixed later this month ati are releasing new drivers (bit tight there) not sure about nvidia00:34
ubuntoilLinux_Galore: yeah nvidia, always a little late00:35
Linux_Galoreubuntoil: Xorg 1.5 is pretty good, new user wil love it, total no brainer, no stuffing around with xorg.conf00:36
ubuntoilLinux_Galore: let make that very clear, if I use the free drivers I should not have any trouble even though I have an nvidia card...is that it ??00:36
Linux_Galoreubuntoil: correct00:37
Linux_Galoreubuntoil: only issue is 3D support00:37
Linux_Galoreubuntoil: normal desktop use though has no issues only games00:37
ubuntoilLinux_Galore: I don't play games, so no pb00:38
JuJuBeelinux_galore and mefisto : missing one important thing ... click on cashew first then the widget wish to move.  Just got that from #kde.  THanks for the help anyway.00:39
Linux_Galoreubuntoil: this would be a none issue if Nvidia released the specs, we will even sign a none discolsure00:39
Linux_Galoreubuntoil: ati/amd have released theirs00:40
ubuntoilLinux_Galore: yeah I know...00:40
Linux_GaloreJuJuBee: eeer I told you do do that [sigh]00:40
mefisto__JuJuBee: that's what we both said isn't it?00:41
toti_Hey, how to change the owner of a file by chmod?00:41
favroyou use chown for that00:42
toti_ok, thx00:42
Linux_Galorechown username file00:42
microI had some difficulties with wifi but graphics works fine and no kwin errors :) thx a lot00:44
Linux_Galoremicro: kde4 will have the effects built into kwin thus no errors00:45
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microhow can I turn them on and set them up?00:54
Linux_Galorein kubuntu 8.10 there is a tool in your main menu to turn it all on00:56
Linux_Galoreunless you are running an Intel card though I would bother, no Ati or Nvidia driver for Xorg 1.500:57
Linux_Galoresorry, no "proprietary"  driver for Ati and Nvidia in Xorg 1.500:58
microin older kubuntu there is no such tool?01:02
Linux_Galorenot sure never installed kde4 in 8.0401:03
micronow I'm totaly not sure wich kubuntu did i download and install... but I have KDE4 so?01:05
mefisto__lsb_release -a    will tell you01:07
microI knew there must be a way : D01:10
ZerothisI'm trying to use a USB drive to install ubuntu on another computer with no CD drive. I used UNebootin, Ubuntu, 8.04_Live. I think I wrote to the previously blank drive correctly (it shows 21 files/folders including "syslinux.cfg") but the other computer does not find a bootable image on the USB drive (I disabled all boot options except USB, still doesn't find it).01:24
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LeeJunFanZerothis: have you tested on the other computer to rule out the USB stick contents?01:32
etfbI can't make "Open Containing Folder" in Firefox's Download Manager do anything at all.  It seems like an issue with mime times or default applications or something.  Can anyone offer any steps to fix the problem?01:38
LeeJunFanetfb: you're right about what's causing it.01:42
LeeJunFanetfb: it's probably trying to use a filemanager it can't find. just a sec.01:42
etfbLeeJunFan: I followed some instructions on setting up network.protocol-handler.app.file = /usr/bin/konqueror, but they had no effect.01:44
LeeJunFanetfb: okay, in your ~/.mozilla/firefox directory you'll find a default dir, go in there and rename or remove mimeTypes.rdf, then start firefox.01:44
LeeJunFanetfb: firefox3 is different.01:44
LeeJunFanyou can try finding what you need to edit in that file, but it's formatting is kind of a pain.01:45
LeeJunFanActually you'll be looking for the RDF:about="urn:scheme:externalApplication:file"RDF:about="urn:scheme:externalApplication:file"01:45
LeeJunFanetfb: you could just change the alwaysAsk= to "true", then next time you try it'll ask which application to use as a filemanager.01:46
etfbLeeJunFan: Trying that now...01:47
LeeJunFandon't forget to close all open firefox before, or when you close it it will write over your changes.01:49
etfbLeeJunFan: Seems to be working!  Where's the "alwaysAsk" setting, tho?01:50
etfbInterestingly, it pops up with one option as the default - konqueror - but using it has no effect, almost as if I've set up something somewhere to refer to konqueror instead of /usr/bin/konqueror and it's not finding it in the path.01:52
etfbBut manually entering the right path does work, so thanks!01:52
LeeJunFanetfb: no problem, once you've got that selected to the konqueror that works you can tell it to remember that.01:53
ZerothisLeeJunFan: never mind, i managed to get my device to recognise a CD-R/W drive on my USB-IDE cable.02:00
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kc8pxyheya people. i have 2 "identical" 40GB drives, and i'm trying to install kubuntu on a sw raid 1 of those drives.  i don't see that option in the installer partition options. how do i do that?02:11
ubotturaid is Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID wto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto02:12
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freeRagis there a kubuntu USB version ?02:23
kc8pxyfavro:  the first link seems to be the right option, but it doesn't fly for kubuntu(unless i am not reading the download menu right).  i don't see a link to a an alternate install,  unless you count the kde4 disk.02:23
favro!usb | freeRag02:24
ubottufreeRag: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent02:24
ubottuThe Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Kubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/8.04/kubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent02:24
freeRagim running windows02:24
geniifreeRag: Also visit the pendrivelinux  website02:25
favrofreeRag:  For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent02:25
freeRagcan i use fedoras live usb creator to install kubuntu ?02:25
LordCrcok, bit silly question... running 8.04, i installed several apps, but i can only find them in the "start menu" by searching for them (say kdevelop)... where are they hiding? :)02:26
mefisto__did you just install them LordCrc?02:29
freeRagwhy isn't there a windows live usb creator ?02:30
LordCrcmefisto__: i used the "Add/Remove Programs" program02:32
LordCrcah, if i go into konq -> apps, i see the development category, where kdevelop is hiding02:35
LordCrcbut why isnt it on the "start menu" hmm02:35
kenHi, I'm completely new to Kubuntu and was wondering if I could get steered in the right direction. Right now I'm wondering how to set up su...02:39
kenis there a default password, because atm I just don't know the password.02:40
LordCrcken: afaik use sudo everywhere, alternatively you can do sudo su or something along those lines02:41
geniiUse sudo -i      instead02:42
kenI tried sudo but did not have -i02:43
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geniiken: After done doing admin things back to regular prompt with      exit02:43
freeRagthis how too doesn't mention intrepid02:47
LordCrcsince vnc is broken on kde4, what's my alternatives for connecting to it from a windows box?02:49
freeRagcan i skip some files so has to get more storage space available on the drive ?02:49
mefisto__LordCrc: try update-menus, or open kmenuedit (right-click the kmenu) and save. then check to see if the new apps are there02:51
LordCrcmefisto__: cheers ill try that02:51
freeRagcan i use UNetbootin to install itrepid to USB drive ?02:52
LordCrcah cheers, kmenuedit did the trick02:53
LordCrcand ill try x11vnc instead of krfb02:55
Daisuke_IdofreeRag: #ubuntu+1 is the place for intrepid questions02:56
mefisto__LordCrc: I use tastymenu instead of kmenu, it never seems to have that problem02:56
carutsuDaisuke_Ido: how about the upgrading proces ?02:56
LordCrcmefisto__: ill check it out :)02:57
Daisuke_Idothat is the place for *all* intrepid-related questions02:57
Daisuke_Idofor the next month02:57
Deniseflowers and bees?02:59
sumo_sumy ubunto won't boot... it seems to see the file system as read only. any advice?03:05
william__sumo_su: is it a grub error03:08
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sumo_suwilliam__ how would i go fix it?03:09
jevon_has anyone had any problems updating the standard Kubuntu 8.04 release repositories through Adept?03:09
sumo_suit seems to boot me as read only... so i cant change the grub or can i?03:10
jevon_when I run apt-get update, it says some of the repos have been moved temporarily03:10
freeRagshould i install the daily live version ?03:11
mefisto__jevon: a few people have been having problems updating today03:18
mefisto__jevon: try a different download server. you can change it easily from adept, or « kdesudo software-properties-kde »03:20
kc8pxyfreeRag: .......  because they don't think of people installing from free "03:22
nb72Hopefully a quick question.  I'm trying to enable an external monitor (LCD TV with VGA input).  I used to be able to plug it in, restart, and it would work.  Now if I do that the computer hangs while logging in (KDE 4.1).  I have a laptop with an ATI (200X I think) if that helps.03:22
kc8pxyfreeRag: .......  because they don't think of people installing from free "cds"??   anyways, isn't that Q a bit off-topic?03:22
freeRagkc8pxy: what the hell are you talking about ?03:51
LordCrcx11vnc borked :/03:55
trigg3rcan someone help me setting up wifi on kubunutu?  it finds the card but when i try to connect to the router (security is turned off for now) knetworkmanager hangs at 28%03:57
dougbwhy is kubuntu a live dvd and ubuntu is a live CD?04:01
dougbfor 8.1004:01
tekteenthere is also a kubuntu live cd04:06
tekteenand an ubuntu live dvd04:06
tekteenthey have both I believe04:07
trigg3rcan someone help me setting up wifi on kubunutu?  it finds the card but when i try to connect to the router (security is turned off for now) knetworkmanager hangs at 28%04:09
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Guest32598I am trying to install Kubuntu for the first time and I can not get my TV Out to work on my Nvidia card04:11
Guest32598any ideas04:12
CoJaBo-Eeetrigg3r: Does it happen to work if you try it a large number of times? Mine does that, still wondering why...04:12
Guest32598i cannot even get it to reconize i have a tv connected04:12
trigg3rCoJaBo-Eee: have not tried because that would be a waste and to me would mean the app is half ass04:13
bdizzlehi, I was wondering if anyone knew how to get mms protocol to work in firefox?04:13
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anger_Install mplayer-mozilla04:14
adam__does anyone have an idea on how to get my Nvidia card to work good with kubuntu04:15
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anger_Install de proprietary driver04:16
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adam__i have tried and nvidia does not have the right driver for kubuntu04:17
bdizzleanger_: I've got mplayer installed for firefox04:17
CoJaBo-Eeetrigg3r: Double-check the settings, make sure you are using DHCP (theres no way to set the static IP to use), and see if it works with another network (it just doesn't like mine, but works flawlessly with any other I've tried).04:17
trigg3rCoJaBo-Eee: dhcp is set.  and i have no other network to test04:18
CoJaBo-Eeetrigg3r: Does connecting from any other computer work?04:18
trigg3rCoJaBo-Eee: yes another computer (windoze box) is working04:19
CoJaBo-EeeAre there any router settings that are not default?04:20
ZerothisI have an install problem, my IDE hard drive is ntfs. When I use manual or guided, I get the error "the ext3 file system creation is partition #1 of SCSI (0,0,0) (sda) failed". Using ubuntu 8.04_Live CD. The CD and HD are on the same cable, due to only 1 IDE connector on the MB.04:22
trigg3rCoJaBo-Eee: no they are set to default.  the only thing that might not be normal is that the lin box is a laptop and is currently connected through a wired connection... but i have ried rebooting with the ethernet cable unplugged and wifi still will not connect04:23
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CoJaBo-EeeWhat model is the router?04:24
geniiZerothis: Is the hd master or slave on the ribbon?04:24
bdizzlegrr, mplayer keeps saying its connected, then immediately goes to "stopped"04:25
Zerothismaster is the end of the ribbon and slave the middle ?04:25
Zerothisthen HD is master04:25
genii(if both are on cable select)04:25
Zerothisboth CS04:26
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geniiOK so sda is correct designation.04:26
rusellcomalguien sabe español04:27
geniizerothis: Are you trying to wipe it and make linux only or resize the ntfs?04:27
trigg3rCoJaBo-Eee: Netgear wnr834b04:27
tekteen!es| rusellcom04:27
ubotturusellcom: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.04:27
zerothisyes, I dont have a license, the last owner didnt format it. I hate windows and XP in paticular. I won be using it for wine04:28
geniizerothis: That doesn't exactly clarify04:28
geniizerothis: You're keeping part ntfs or making it all into a linux partition?04:29
zerothissorry, I trying to wipe the entire drive and make it linux only04:29
geniizerothis: OK. Does it let you de-allocate the partition from being ntfs before you make it into a linux partition? (before formatting is attempted)04:31
zerothisgenii: not sure. in manual mode I selected each partition (ntfs & unknown) and deleted them. then set 9771, primary, beginning of drive, /, format. Then the remaining free space to swap (it did not let me format this one). in guided, I was not given options.04:36
geniizerothis: You're currently here from livecd?04:38
zerothisyes, ubuntu 8.04_Live04:39
geniizerothis: Close or cancel for now the partitoner. Then open up a Konsole. From there we will try it with fdisk method04:41
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zerothisgenii: i have terminal open (not Konsole), this ok?04:42
mefisto__trying to use virtualbox for the first time. I can't get a cd or iso to boot to install the os. when I click start, virtualbox says aborted04:46
zerothisfdisk -l shows 2 unknown partitions, a novel netware 386 partition, and an "Empty" partition. ? all are "does not end on cylinder"04:50
genii-2Bah disconnects04:50
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zerothiswhat size, in cylinders, show a swap partition be?04:55
geniiIn Mb/Gb should be about twice size of your RAM04:55
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zerothisgenii:I'm lost in fdisk. it only lets me make primary and extended partitions automatic id , then I can change the id. I need p 82 linux and e 83 swap right?05:05
zerothishow do i do that??05:05
geniit           then type in the partition number (1-4). Then type in the description number (82 or 83   etc)05:06
geniizerothis: You can use    p       after to check the changes05:07
geniizerothis: You can have 4 primary partitions05:08
geniizerothis: I'm not sure where you're currently at.  But the idea in fdisk is: delete whatever partitions existed previously. Then to make two partitions, one for system and one for swap. You can specify size of a partition in Mb or Gb by putting for instance M or G after a number when it asks for size. (else it goes to cylinders or such)05:14
geniizerothis: Then to make the one type 82 and swap type 83. Then to  use    w    to write the changes and exit. After that shold be able to format it05:14
ubottuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore05:15
zerothiseh, to complicated I'm just gonna make one big primary partition to get rid of windows then try the guided partitioning again. when in doubt blame windows. I'd bet 10 thousand dollars that once windows is go it works.05:15
zerothisha, windows is gone and it worked!05:15
geniiGood :)05:16
zerothisthanks, i've been away from linux too long. I forgot about fdisk05:16
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DarkriftXhow do i set a program to auto run on startup?05:50
DarkriftXgkrellm for example05:50
ubottuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory. For a complete guide, see http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html05:50
ahmoshi, i've installed ffmpegthumbnailer ,but i still can't see video thumbnails05:53
FuriousGeorgehey all05:53
Linux_Galorehmm kde 4.2 video on youboob05:53
FuriousGeorgekubuntu has a weird problem with my usb->ps/2 adapter...  for some reason, it doesnt work until i hit a key like capslock on another keyboard, or unless i boot the computer with the adapter already plugged in05:54
FuriousGeorgehmm, maybe i just need to hit capslock on the adapter...  that would be good enough05:54
ahmosso any help plz05:55
FuriousGeorgeso i verified:  either i boot up with the adapter plugged in, or i have to hit the capslock key on another keyboard in order for the ps/2 keyboard in use with my usb adapter to work05:59
FuriousGeorgethis is only the case in kubuntu.  when i use gentoo it just works05:59
DarkriftXsee what happens in dmesg when you hit capslock06:00
FuriousGeorgeDarkriftX: good idea06:00
DarkriftXmaybe you can reproduce that effect06:00
DarkriftXalso see if its picked up in dmesg when you plug it in (without caps lock pressed)06:00
FuriousGeorgeDarkriftX: nothing there06:02
DarkriftXthat sucks06:02
FuriousGeorgeDarkriftX: tell me about it...  im thinking this has something to do with the larger problem:   adapter doesnt work at all with kubuntu-ltsp, but im not by that server to test, so this is what im stuck with06:03
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FuriousGeorgehttp://pastebin.ca/1217653  <---  thats the difference between dmesg on gentoo (works) and kubuntu (requires a reboot) when i plug in the adapter (p/2 -> usb)06:11
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tacosarecoolThat was close06:23
geniitacosarecool: Survived restarting the desktop I see06:24
tacosarecoolI had to do last boot06:24
tacosarecoolthen I had to do generic default06:24
tacosarecoolgo to last boot06:24
tacosarecoolBut it's kde 406:24
tacosarecoolI need to get rid of kde 406:36
tacosarecoolI made a mistake06:36
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tacosarecoolI need to get interprid off06:45
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XubuntuBonjour a tous06:54
tacosarecoolI need help06:54
tacosarecoolYou looking for help too06:56
tacosarecoolAre you or not?06:57
tacosarecoolAnyway my problem is I installed a developmental branch just to install a program06:57
tacosarecoolCan someone help me?07:06
tacosarecoolSomeones got to respond07:08
tacosarecoolI know your there people07:10
frybyeMoin - just got a big update of kde4 stuff for 8.04 - anybody know a site with details of what has been updated etc?07:18
frybyeso who has done the 8.10beta update?07:53
mlabitadanybody here?07:55
Linux_GaloreI didnt update though08:04
Linux_Galorefresh install08:04
Linux_Galorekde 4 is far from finnished so I wouldnt bother08:05
dave__noob question08:09
dave__how do i shut off that when my cursor switches windows the focus switches08:10
mlabitadhi dave08:10
hosein-mecwhich Office suite will be in Kubuntu 8.10 ? and also K3B 1.0.5 & Amarok 1.4.10 ??08:14
Linux_GaloreOpenOffice 2.408:19
Jucato1. most likely OO.o 2. considering there has been no stable KDE 4 release for K3b or Amarok, most probably their KDE 3 versions08:19
Jucato(applies to KOffice as well)08:19
Linux_Galorecan always update to the kde 4 version when it becomes stable08:20
Linux_GaloreJucato: I dont think kde 4 is going to be ready for Intrepid to be honest08:21
hosein-mechope to include kde3 version of amarok & k3b , not same as kubuntu 8.0408:21
stdinLinux_Galore: KDE 3 is dead, it's not like we have much choice08:21
Daisuke_IdoLinux_Galore: what's the last version you used?08:21
Linux_GaloreJucato: Plasma isnt integrated with the apps yet08:21
JucatoLinux_Galore: too late for that. it's already the default08:21
JucatoLinux_Galore: "integrated with the apps"?08:21
Linux_GaloreJucato: doesnt even have drag and drop on the desktop yet08:22
Daisuke_Idohosein-mec: the versions of amarok and k3b in 8.04 ARE the kde3 versions.08:22
* jussi01 reminds people that kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4 :)08:22
Daisuke_IdoLinux_Galore: what version of kde4 did you use?08:22
Jucato<Daisuke_Ido> Linux_Galore: what's the last version you used?08:22
dave__kubuntu is too gui08:22
Linux_GaloreJucato: drag an app from the menu to the desktop, doesnt work you have to do that from within konqueror etc08:22
JucatoLinux_Galore: wrong08:22
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jussi01And offtopic discussion is in #kubuntu-offtopic08:22
hosein-mecDaisuke_Ido: no ! i mean in default ...08:23
Jucatobut like what jussi01 said, #kubuntu-kde4  for KDE 408:23
Linux_GaloreJucato: Im on intrepid08:23
dave__how do i shut off that my focus switches when i move my cursor out of the window08:23
stdinLinux_Galore: intrepid support in #ubuntu+1 ;)08:23
dave__does anyone happen to know?08:23
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Linux_Galoreheh, Ive done better I asked the kde fold "it is broken and not finnished yet"08:23
Daisuke_Idohosein-mec: what do you mean default08:24
JucatoLinux_Galore: because your example is not broken and finished :)08:24
Daisuke_Idohosein-mec: because in kubuntu 8.04, the default is amarok and k3b's kde3 versions08:24
hosein-mecDaisuke_Ido: amarok & k3b there isnt in default installation of Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 REMIX08:25
Linux_GaloreJucato: you cant do basic drag and drop because the integration of plasma/desktop/menu's etc hasnt isnt finnished08:25
JucatoLinux_Galore: yes you can. since 4.008:25
Daisuke_Idothat's because it's a strict kde4 release.08:25
t-develHow to run DB2 in KUbuntu ????08:25
Linux_GaloreJucato: Im on 4.1 and it doesnt work and in the forums it also doesnt work08:25
Jucatodave__: System Settings -> Window Behavior -> Focus tab?08:25
hosein-mecDaisuke_Ido: will be include in 8.10 ?08:26
Daisuke_Idoshould be08:26
t-develDB2 is the database from IBM ... Can anybody help me out that how to run the DB2 in Kubuntu ...???08:26
Daisuke_Idobecause the kde4 versions will not be ready08:26
Jucatodave__: check that you Focus Policy isn't  Focus Follows Mouse or something like that08:26
JucatoLinux_Galore: if that's how you believe it is, then I won't/can't spend my time convincing you otherwise08:27
Daisuke_Idohowever, i doubt that amarok 2 will ever actually be "ready" - i'm really and truly convinced that the amarok dev team is purposely sabotaging amarok 2 by taking out every single thing that made it the best music app available and replacing it with monkey feces08:27
Jucatospecially not in this channel08:27
Linux_GaloreJucato: drag and drop only works from within the file browser -> desktop08:28
hosein-meci tested Adept 3.0 but it's so sketchy08:28
hosein-meci dont see list of packages !! only Search function ?!?!08:29
s0101i jsut installed kubuntu with mce08:45
s0101but i dont get any signal from my setup box08:45
s0101anybody who knows about linux mce and setup boxes08:49
ubottuThe following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mintsupport), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate08:53
Linux_Galoregah! @ mce09:08
eagles0513875lol Linux_Galore09:10
Linux_Galoremce is like a nice looking box then you open it and you realise its designed by an insane engineer who worked for freedom09:26
Linux_Galoreso you nothing quite fits and you never seem to get the last screw to fit09:27
Linux_Galoresorry swap freedom with Ikea  its an international room09:28
KRABENhow to setting resolution pc?.09:29
eagles0513875KRABEN: whats ur native language09:31
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JackWinteri had some problems with kde and konqueror, so i did a apt-get install kde.  must have messed something up, because no longer are menues opened by a mouseover, and the same with the k menu.  anyway i can get the old behaviour back ?  been looking through most system settings but still didn't find it..09:31
Linux_GaloreKRABEN: installing you be doing with sudo apt-get install krandrtray then run you will with krandtray in termin you will09:33
* Linux_Galore ducks09:34
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about krandrtray09:34
Linux_Galorebah! humbug09:35
mefisto__!info krandrtray09:55
ubottuPackage krandrtray does not exist in hardy09:55
mefisto__I think krandrtray is part of kcontrol09:59
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sebastian__hi, may somebody help me i downloaded kubuntu with kde4 and wanna go down to kde3 :-/10:05
tollstahow do i load normal icr servers in Konversation or view other channels?10:06
sebastian__./join channel10:06
tollstaget list?10:06
sebastian__./server ircserver10:06
tollstain chat window?10:07
tollsta./server ircserver10:07
sebastian__without .10:08
tollstaname lookup fails10:09
sebastian__ircserver must be adress of a server10:10
tollsta./list channel was command10:10
sebastian__like /server irc.quakenet.org10:10
tollstacmon and im new to ubuntu10:11
tollstaf all channels on server, whats a good chat server?10:12
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adihi all10:31
adiwhat is the alternative app in kubuntu to manage mtp devices?10:32
adiamarok is not working for me in kubuntu while in ubuntu with gnome I have sucsessfully used gnomad210:32
adiso maybe there is something similiar for kde?10:33
adianyone any idea?10:33
andypls1is GTK# something like windows forms , but for linux?10:34
Jucatoandypls1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gtk_Sharp and ask in #gtk perhaps10:37
Jucato(or if it's #gtk+)10:37
adiany alternative of gnomad2 for mtp devices for kde?10:42
emilsedghadi: i think Amarok 1.4 works with those creative devices, take a look at amarok wiki on http://amarok.kde.org/wiki10:43
adiamarok does notork for me10:44
adithats why im here10:44
adiit does not recognize the samsung yp k3 device which is a mtp device10:45
emilsedghadi: hm, Amarok works good with mtp devices.btw my samsung yp p2 works nice (but as a ums, not mtp)10:46
adihow did you made that device a non proprietary one10:47
adiI hate mtp10:47
adiI have seen some how to's  around10:48
WmBuRnanyone have ati radeon hd 3650 graphic card?10:48
emilsedghadi: yp p2 in asia is sold as a ums device10:48
WmBuRnto help me with drivers10:48
adibut none of those korean firmware works when I start samsung10:48
emilsedghadi: you can get the ums firmwares, search on anythingbutipod forums10:48
adiI was there and the firmware that i downloaded could not install at all10:49
adioh  you from asia and you bought it as a umts player ...right?10:50
emilsedghadi: oh, then ask for more help on mtp on #amarok10:50
emilsedghadi: i know amarok works good with mtp10:50
JackWinteri had some problems with kde and konqueror, so i did a apt-get install kde.  must have messed something up, because no longer are menues opened by a mouseover, and the same with the k menu.  anyway i can get the old behaviour back ?  been looking through most system settings but still didn't find it..10:50
emilsedghadi: yes, my device was ums when i bought it (iran)10:50
frybyeusing kubuntu 8.10beta - wont let me install the proprietary drivers for the nvidia grafic card?? says prop. drivers not used on this system??10:50
emilsedghfrybye: i think this is not the rightchannel on kubuntu 8.10 help, please take a look at #kubuntu+110:51
frybyeok thanks...10:51
frybyeemilsedgh: there does not seem to be such a #+!!10:52
etfbIf I get a message about a linker not finding -lglib, what's the likely name of the package I should install?  Is there a naming standard?10:52
emilsedghfrybye: really? hm, so why i thought there is such channel?? i dont know.sorry for wrong help10:53
frybyenp - there is a #kubuntu-kde410:53
emilsedghetfb: glib is so common, i think it will be installed if you install build-essentials.im not sure though10:53
emilsedghetfb: libglib1.2-dev maybe?10:54
stdinemilsedgh: the channel is #ubuntu+1 not #kubuntu+110:54
etfbemilsedgh: Ah!  That could be it.10:54
sourcemakershould I upgrade to 8.10 or do a fresh clean install?10:55
etfbsourcemaker: Upgrading any operating system is an act of faith on par with bungee jumping or skydiving.  I never take the risk...10:56
JackWintersourcemaker: it's really nice to have /boot and /home on it's own partitions.  that in combination with a couple of 5-10gb partitions allow you very easily to install a new system, and still have your existing system around10:59
sourcemakerJackWinter: well... I am using cryptoLUKS.... so I think this way is not possible :-)10:59
JackWintersourcemaker: hehe, no ide what that is :)11:00
sourcemakerJackWinter: whole filesystem encryption...11:00
pvandewy1gaerdei downloaded the dekstop cd, but i cannot upgrade with it it seems, i want to create a alternate using a jigdo file,   how many files/ MBs do those cds have incommon11:07
JackWinteranyone know why i would be refused access so a subdir on a win/osx dvd rom ?11:12
JackWinteri can see it as root11:12
JackWinteri suppose it has something to do with access rights..11:13
pvandewy1gaerdeis there a umask active ?11:13
JackWinterwhat is that ?11:13
pvandewy1gaerdesort of default permissions11:13
pvandewy1gaerdewhat do you see when you ls -al the dvd11:14
JackWinterit says that it is group:user 501:50111:14
pvandewy1gaerdefor the content of the dvd ?11:17
JackWinteryes.  the / is root:root, all the rest is 501:501.  the funny thing is that i can run a program in the root of it (install prg), but it can't access any subdirs11:17
JackWinterhere is the pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/121785311:20
JackWinterlooks really funky, but it's really meant for w32/osx, but i'm trying to get it going in wine11:20
etfbI need to know which package contains a certain file.  Is there some sort of apt search command that will tell me?11:31
jussi01!info apt-file | etfb11:33
ubottuetfb: apt-file (source: apt-file): APT package searching utility -- command-line interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0 (hardy), package size 16 kB, installed size 120 kB11:33
etfbjussi01: Thanks - that's exactly what I needed.11:38
uncleanhey whats the package to get KDE?11:44
uncleanor hould i say command11:45
gm04030276sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop11:47
gaetanociao a tutti11:55
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Tanazzociao a tutti11:55
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Rioting_pacifistcarefull when using aptitude i think that by defualt it brings alot of other stuff in aswell11:58
Rioting_pacifisthow do i debug my suspend resume failing12:01
JackWinterhmm a quick question.  for some reason my system is slowly going down the drain.  i have a problem with kded using alot of cpu, now i regularly get errors in konqueror.  by trying to reinstall kde with apt-get install kde, i managed to lose some nice ui features which i can't get back to working.  my fstab is no longer correct after having installed xp and osx, i think fsck is giving an error on a filesystem.  so i'm coming to the conclusion that i might12:07
JackWinterbe better off taking the windows route of wiping the kubuntu partition and reinstalling from scratch.  I have /home on a seperate partition.  any pitfalls i should be aware of ?  does Kontact keep anything in /var ?12:07
favroI would boot the live cd and run e2fsck -a12:09
JackWinterfavro: does that check all the filesystems ?12:10
Rioting_pacifistJackWinter: im not sure, your kde problems might be caused by your /.kde which means reinstalling could not help12:10
favrothat's what the -a is for12:10
JackWinterRioting_pacifist: i could delete ~/.kde before reinstalling.  alternatively can i delete .kde and relogin ?12:11
favrothat would be a good first option12:12
Rioting_pacifistmv .kde .kde212:12
Tanazzo! list12:12
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Rioting_pacifistdeleting kde will loose all your kde settings and emails storred there12:12
JackWinteraha, so ~/.kde contains all my emails from kmail/kontact ?12:14
JackWinterok, gonna start with e2fsck -a, and then do a dd to copy the entire system partition to another partition,  just in case :)12:18
JackWinterbye, wish me luck :)12:18
tacosarecoolbye good luck12:18
tacosarecoolDarnit I installed a devolopment branch just to get a piece of software so then it installed kde4 and now I'm doomed cause I can't get 3 back12:19
JackWinteri hear that kde 4.1 is pretty usable ?12:21
tacosarecoolI hate 4 I like 3 in 4 the menus are fat12:21
ahoxtacosarecool: what do you mean with fat menues? The Program menue - this is oxygen, you can always change it to say plastic12:24
JackWinteri like 3 too. intrepid is not far away :)12:24
tacosarecoolAh I added inteprid then it installed kde 412:25
tacosarecooldarn it12:25
ahoxI switched with 4.1.1, this is IMHO usable12:25
ahoxthought, 3.5 still is a tack more stable12:25
* geek kinda wonders how an update will go.. will it replace everything KDE3 with 4 or what?12:26
JackWinterafaik, it will be kde412:26
ahoxgeek: currently it installs parallel to kde3.5 and it will also get its own home directory in .kde412:26
tacosarecoolIn kde4 I don't like the way the top looks12:27
geekahox: ooh. does that mean it won't show both kde3 and 4 apps in kmenu?12:27
tacosarecoolIt will12:27
ahoxgeek: It will12:27
JackWinterargh, i really don't wanna reinstall my system...  maybe i'll just try to fix my probs one by one.  but no idea what to do with the kded racing problem, and new konqueror error msgs12:29
afd___hi guys! I've installed Intreprid and I'd like to have kde 3.5 running as well (as I'm not comfortable yet with kde 4.1). Is there a way to get it installed? I've searched through synaptic, enabled unsuported repository, but I couldn't get it to show up (except kdelibs 3.5.9)12:30
geekahox / tacosarecool erf. honestly i find that a wee bit annoying having two of everything ;p12:31
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tacosarecoolI don't even kubuntu4-desktop installed and yet I have kde412:32
ahoxgeek: Repetition helps retention :P12:32
geekahox: lol12:33
MrKennieafd___: for intrepid you should head to #ubuntu+1 and I afaik, there will be no official kde3 desktop in intrepid. It's moving on like everything else.12:37
afd___you'll pry kde 3.5 from my cold dead hands...12:38
MrKennieafd___: then stick with hardy12:38
afd___ok, thanks for letting me know about the plans...12:38
tacosarecoolHow do I remove intrepid12:38
stdintacosarecool: you format and reinstall hardy12:39
tacosarecoolAwe how do I remove ubuntu safely12:40
tacosarecoolfrom the boot12:40
tacosarecoolI mean kubuntu12:40
stdinto what, another Linux distro, Windows?12:41
tacosarecoolI'm dual booting12:41
stdindual booting with what?12:41
PiciAnd you want to single boot to your other OS and get rid of *ubuntu?12:41
tacosarecoolI'll reinstall ubuntu12:42
tacosarecoolOf course12:42
MrKennietacosarecool: if you reinstall it will reinstall grub anyway12:42
tacosarecoolI know12:42
stdinwhy are you dual booting ubuntu and kubuntu?12:42
tacosarecoolBut I wanna partition with acronis disk director12:42
tacosarecoolI'm not12:43
tacosarecoolI'm dual booting windows and kubuntu12:43
JackWinteranyone care to have a look at my fsck.log: http://pastebin.ca/1217888  I take that the first error msgs is because i reinstalled xp, and that the uuid in fstab is from the old xp partition.  what worries me more is the fsck died with exit status 1. /sda8 is my home partition...12:43
Picitacosarecool: Can you rephrase your question in a sentence or two? I think we're all confused here.12:43
tacosarecoolHow do I remove kubuntu safetly from the boot menu12:43
JackWintertacosarecool: which boot menu ?  grub ?12:44
JackWinteryou'll find the boot entries in /boot/grub/menu.lst12:45
stdinJackWinter: change the UUID in /etc/fstab to the current one reported by "blkid -c /dev/null" (may or may not need sudo)12:45
mozabonjour à tous12:46
Rioting_pacifisthow do i debug my suspend/resume failing12:46
mozasorry in english here : "hello all"12:46
stdintacosarecool: if you want to reinstall kubuntu then just install again as normal12:46
tacosarecoolI said I wanted to partition with acronis so I wanna get rid of the old partition12:48
tacosarecoolin windows12:48
Rioting_pacifisttacosarecool: if your looking to remove kubuntu then you need to use windows tools, i think you fix the mbr using fixmbr when using the xp install cd12:50
tacosarecoolCan't I use easybcd12:50
Rioting_pacifistpossibly the important thing is to make the mbr point to the windows bootmanager so that you dont see grub when you boot but the windows boot manager12:52
JackWinterstdin: does this fstab look ok ?  isn't there supposed to be a swap to ?  http://pastebin.ca/121789512:55
stdinJackWinter: looks ok, there is usually a swap partition in there, but if "cat /proc/swaps" shows it then it's probably auto-detected12:57
JackWinterstdin: no, it's not there.  my swap partition was moved to sda9 when i repartitioned.12:59
stdinJackWinter: then add it's UUID or partition to fstab13:00
stdin"UUID=...  none  swap  sw  0  0"13:00
JackWinterstdin: there is also a hfs+ on sda3.  what is the syntax of the swap mount ?  please :)13:01
stdinthe last line I posted is the swap line13:02
mozahello, is somebody able to help me to make the icons bigger in Konqueror "icon view"?13:03
tacosarecoolGo to settings in konqueror views13:04
mozatacosarecool, ok, and then?13:05
tacosarecoolthen there's a icon tab13:05
stdinJackWinter: I think "UUID=... /media/sda3 hfsplus  uid=...,gid=... 0 0" is right for hsf+, but I've never used it so can't say. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions should help though13:05
tacosarecoolYou can change icon and preview size13:05
tacosarecoolOr under details13:06
mozado i follow : settings>configure Konqueror ?13:06
tacosarecoolThe views will be under file management13:07
mozaand then is it : "previews and meta-data"?13:07
tacosarecoolJust views13:07
mozai don't see "views"13:07
mozacan you write for me the whole "path" from "setting" to what you want me to go ?13:08
tacosarecoolit's above previews13:09
mozasettings>configure Konqueror>file management>views ?13:10
tacosarecoolThen look in details tab13:10
mozai don't have file management13:10
mozajust file associations13:10
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mozabehavior, appearance, previews&meta data, file associations, web behavior, and other non-related things (like java&javascript...) are what i have13:12
mozain settings>configure Konqueror13:12
JackWinterstdin: hmm, where do i find the uuid of the swap partition ?  blkid -c /dev/null has the following output: http://pastebin.ca/121790413:12
tacosarecoolIDK then13:12
tacosarecoolI don't know how can you be a linux user and not know that lol13:12
mozai'm just a beginner, sorry...13:13
tacosarecoolThat's ok13:13
tacosarecoolRead the urban dictionary some13:13
tacosarecoolThat's the one thing school doesn't teach you slang13:13
tacosarecoolPeer pressure teaches you slang and urban dictionary13:14
MrKennieI was beginning to worry that they did13:14
mozais IDK slang?13:14
tacosarecoolSorta internet slang13:14
MrKennieanyway. this is a bit ot here.13:15
mozaah ok, maybe acronym for "i don't know"?13:15
tacosarecoollook what I learned from urban dictionary Fud Acronym for "Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt.13:15
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mozaok, so it's weird that we don't have the same konqueror interface13:16
tacosarecoollol http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Blackberry+Jam13:17
jussi01tacosarecool: as the bot said previously, this channel is for Kubuntu support, please chat in #kubuntu-offtopic for general stuff13:18
stdinJackWinter: odd, has the partition been formatted yet?13:19
JackWinterstdin: hmm, don't know :)  if it's swap it has been formatted, no ?13:19
stdinI would guess that one that hasn't been formatted would not have a UUID13:20
stdin"blkid -c /dev/null" shows the UUID of my swap partition13:20
stdinJackWinter: you can try formatting it with the "mkswap" command13:21
tacosarecoolsorry lol13:21
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milhi guys.  How do I find out what kernel and kde version is on my Kubuntu 3.5.x is?13:25
JackWinterstdin: :) not sure how i do that.  but i could run swapon from parted and it was mounted.  but still no uuid.  think i repartitioned the disk from the knoppix live cd if that has any bearing...13:25
eeeanyone konw howto get wirless card activate it on my acer complication PC?13:25
milok I found out I'm on 3.5.9 desktop environment.  How do I upgrade to 3.5.10?13:26
eeethe problem is that Linux dosnt support exe file's13:26
eeesoo i can't use it13:26
JackWintermil: for the kernel uname -r13:26
eeemsg me if you got some one like this or now how to fix13:27
stdinJackWinter: just because you created the partition doesn't necessarily mean it was formatted. but if swapon works maybe it is. you can just put "/dev/sda9 none swap sw 0 0" in as the swap line13:27
JackWintereee: i think there is something called ndiswrapper that allows you to use a windows wifi driver13:27
stdinmil: enable hardy-backports13:27
anger_eee you must to install the drivers of your wireless card if the system do not recognize it.13:27
miljack: thanks. I type that on Konsole?  what's the exact line?  sudo -r??13:27
afeijothere is a better app to RDP rather than KRDC?13:28
milstdin: thanks do I enable that in the repositories?13:28
JackWintermil: at the command prompt "uname -r"13:29
eeeoh i use Acer Aspire 5720Z13:29
eeeif that is a problem13:29
eeecan you get a driver pack to me? jack?13:29
stdinfrom Adept Manager, Adept -> Manage Repositories -> Updates (tab) -> Unsupported updates13:29
miljack:  Thanks so much!  that did it!!!!13:29
JackWintereee: nope you will have to google for that, i have no idea how, only that i've read it is possible..13:30
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs13:30
eeetnx ubottu13:30
eeebut where you read it? jack?13:30
JackWinterstdin: i formatted it again as swap from gparted, now it has a uuid :)  thanks for the help13:32
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devo  i have a problem.  when i put a movie to a disk the sound is alway's out of sync and i was woundering, what am i do'n wrong?13:33
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microneed a little help with firefox.... when I import bookmarks to firefox, they are gone after restart13:33
anger_The bookmarks are in other partition?13:34
JackWinterok, can i check fs  intergrity while they are mounted, or do i have to do that in single user mode or from the live cd ?13:34
devo i'm using devede to encode avi to iso then i'm using both brasero and/or k3b to put it to a dvd, is there something that i'm do'n wrong to make it so that the sound is all crackily???13:35
favroJackWinter: they have to be unmounted - that's why I use the live cd13:36
devo can anyone help me out???13:36
microanger_: no they are on a partition where kubuntu is13:37
anger_devo, look to your codecs and see if they are fully updated13:37
devo how can i tell if they r fully updated?  srry i'm still kinda of a noob when it come's to linux13:38
Rioting_pacifisthow do i debug my suspend resume failing13:38
milstdin: thank you!!!!13:38
JackWinterfavro: and e2fsck -a will find any problems i might have ?13:38
anger_try to rename the file or open it with an editor and "Save As" with a different name.13:39
favroJackWinter: it should - man e2fsck will give all the options available13:39
JackWinterdevo: for codecs you might want to add mediabuntu to your repositories.13:39
devo how do i do that?13:39
anger_devo, asroot, run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade13:40
JackWinterdevo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu13:40
anger_Yes JackWinter, you're right. I forgot about that, sorry devo.13:40
devo it's ok, just tell me how to add mediabuntu to my repositories?13:41
JackWinterdevo: look for the good/bad/ugly packs for gstreamer13:41
devo and then we can go from there on my problem that i do have and then hopefully u guy's and help me fix the problem  ;-)13:41
JackWinterdevo: hehe, it's a few steps, read the link :)13:42
anger_Just edit your /etc/apt/sources.list13:42
etfbJackWinter: I used to add medibuntu as the first step each time I installed a new Kubuntu, but I haven't needed it in Hardy.  Has something changed recently that made it less relevant?13:42
JackWinteretfb: don't know...  i came onboard in gutsy.  most things  work here with medibunty codecs installed.  no qt in sl though :)13:43
Tanazzo! list13:44
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots13:44
NerianHi. I want to install Kubuntu with KDE 4. I undertand that currently KDE 4 is available only with Kubuntu KDE 4 remix community edition. The new release of Kubuntu, 8.10, is going to feature KDE 4. Mi doubt is, if I install Kubuntu KDE 4 community edition, is there anything I need to do once the new Kubuntu 8.10 is released?13:47
devo how can i update through the terminal???13:51
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jussi01devo: update or upgrade?13:51
devo srry lol upgrade13:52
jussi01devo: ask in #ubuntu+113:52
devo i'm ask'n in here i don't wanna go anywhere else, srry to say13:52
jussi01devo: well its offtopic in here, so please head on over to #ubuntu+113:53
anger_As root type this command in terminal: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade13:53
devo why is it offtopic in here?13:53
devo how do i longin as root to be able to do that?13:54
bazhangdevo, is this for hardy or intrepid13:54
devo like i said, i'm kinda a noob with it come's to linux still lol13:54
Nerianuse "sudo"13:54
bazhangdevo, what version number13:54
stdin!upgrade | devo13:55
Neriansudo  "comands..."  will execute those commdans as root13:55
ubottudevo: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes13:55
devo thnx13:55
devo oh ok13:55
anger_devo, type this command in terminal: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade13:56
stdinAndrewB: that's to update, not upgrade to another version13:56
stdinanger_: ^13:57
stdinAndrewB: not you :)13:57
frybyeafter kubutu8.1 install - no sound.. (there is no #kubuntu+1 - so thats why I ask here...)13:57
devo i did then it tell's me this13:57
devoE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)13:57
devoE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?13:57
stdinfrybye: I told you #ubuntu+113:57
frybyeand in #ubuntu+1 no responses...13:57
stdinwell that's the intrepid support channel until it's released13:58
frybyestdin - perhaps a net split or...?13:58
stdinjust wait around in there for a while13:58
anger_devo, is the Synaptic open?13:58
frybyekubuntu ppl say go to ubuntu and ubuntu say go to kubuntu when one has kubuntu- intrepid...13:58
stdinfrybye: #ubuntu+1 is for *all*13:58
bazhangfrybye, #ubuntu+1 is it13:59
devo no but it will13:59
frybyeok baz-std13:59
devo now it's open13:59
stdindevo: are you trying to upgrade to Hardy or Intrepid? or another?13:59
microanger_ it didn't help to rename the file13:59
devo i don't know which one i have, srry to say14:00
bazhang!version | devo14:00
ubottudevo: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell14:00
anger_devo, If Synaptic is open, it lock the system to upgrade throught the terminal, so close it and try again.14:00
NerianI want to install Kubuntu with KDE 4. I understand that currently KDE 4 is only available with Kubuntu KDE 4 remix community edition. The new release of Kubuntu, 8.10, is going to feature KDE 4. Mi doubt is, if I install Kubuntu KDE 4 community edition, is there anything I need to do once the new Kubuntu 8.10 is released?14:02
devo  why am i being marked as being away???14:02
stdinNerian: the remix will upgrade cleanly to 8.1014:03
Nerianstdin: Thank you very much14:03
devo how do i login as root???14:03
Pici!sudo | devo14:03
ubottudevo: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome), or !kdesu (KDE)14:03
bazhangdevo, you dont; use sudo14:04
devo it wont let me upgrade if i'm not login as root14:04
devo i did and still the same damn thing wtf14:04
bazhangdevo use sudo14:04
devo i did14:04
devoE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)14:04
devoE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?14:04
devo that is what i keep on gett'n14:04
devo wtf14:04
bazhangdevo close all add/remove synaptic etc14:04
stdinwhat's the exact command you're running?14:04
NerianPerhaps the update plugin is active?14:04
devo sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade14:05
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »14:05
stdinfavro: it's not locked, it's just not being ran as root14:05
devo is what i'm try'n to do and the damn computer wont let me wtf14:05
bazhangdevo, please keep it family friendly14:06
devo i am14:06
favromissed the second sudo...14:06
devo where?14:06
Maxasudo apt-get upgrade14:06
bazhangdevo,  run that command14:07
devo ok but how do i fix the other problem that i do have which is that everytime i put a avi to a dvd the video is fine the sound is crap, how do i fix that problem???14:08
devo i did14:08
bazhangdevo, which command14:08
devo sudo apt-get upgrade14:08
bazhangsudo apt-get update14:09
devo ok fine14:09
bazhangthen sudo apt-get upgrade14:09
devo i did both of them14:09
bazhangno errors?14:10
bazhangnow type lsb_release -a14:10
devo that's rite it's do'n the upgrade now it will be done in about 5mins14:10
Maxaim doing the update too.. its going to take a while :/14:11
devo but how do i fix the other problem that i'm have'n???14:11
bazhangwhen it is finished then do lsb_release -a devo14:11
devo let me guess i type in lsb_release -a in the terminal, rite?14:11
bazhangdevo, yes.14:12
devo ok14:12
bazhangwhat app are you using to make a dvd devo14:13
devo devede14:13
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devo then i put it to a disk useing k3b and/or brasero14:14
devo i don't know what i'm do'n wrong for the sound to sound like crap when the movie is put to a dvd14:15
bazhangdevo, what about playing it before you burn it; are there problems then14:15
devo it's hardy14:16
devo no there r no problems when i have the movie on my computer but it does start when i put it to a disk though14:16
devo the version that i have is hardy for thoughs that wanted to know14:16
devo what?14:17
bazhang!br | marciomra14:17
ubottumarciomra: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.14:17
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devo bazhang: can u help me out or what?14:20
bazhangdevo, after burning the avi to file but before burning to disk does it play okay14:20
devo like i said the video is fine the sound is all crackily14:21
bazhangdevo, after encoding the avi to dvd format?14:22
devo that's rite14:23
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AuthorityI have a number of keys that are recognized by xev, but I can't bind a keyboard shortcut to in KDE4 (8.10a6).  Any idea what's going on here?14:38
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PiciAuthority: 8.10 help/support is in #ubuntu+114:40
AuthorityPici: yeah, just saw that, thanks.  They're usually not much help though14:41
PiciAuthority: The channel has become busier now that the beta has been released.14:42
AuthorityPici: yes, but they tend to be more GNOME focused14:42
Authorityat least in my experience14:43
PiciAuthority: Even then #kubuntu-kde4 is the proper channel for KDE4 support.14:43
AuthorityPici: roger that, thank you14:43
qcontinueumhow do i join another channel?14:45
qcontinueumnvm, figured it out14:46
geekqcontinueum: /join14:46
RurouniJonesat which point he closes the server connection...I am not convined he does have it ;)14:46
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peacei instaled kubuntu 4kde.. should i add another user for browsing internet, watching videos and music? or the default is safe?15:00
Picipeace: The default user is fine.15:01
Pici!sudo | This may explain some things peace15:02
ubottuThis may explain some things peace: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome), or !kdesu (KDE)15:02
peacei was using ubuntu for a year, but im still not familiar with what is what :) ye thnx15:02
Picipeace: check out the site ubottu linked to.15:03
peaceok..now the serious question... i have ati and if i apply hardware drivers that are suggested to 3d..after restart i get black screen..so im just using 2d drivers..15:05
norHi, how can i check if my software- or hardware-mixing is currently activated? (alsa+pulse)15:05
peacewhich java you guys suggest to install for kubuntu kde4.. i remember i had some hard time a year before..with ubuntu gutsy choosing java..installing..uninstalling :)15:08
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eeeHow to show wmn files15:39
eeewmv file?15:39
pigrecoinstall xine15:40
pigrecofrom adept... :D15:40
pigrecoit's very simple...15:40
pigrecoinstall also codec15:41
pigrecowith the same name of xine15:41
alx54hi evrybody! i have a small problem which probably can be solved in a sec: everytime i copy sth from my usb-hdd, konqueror(or dolphin) informs me that he's unable to change the mode (or "rights", im not sure about the term cause i use german version)of the copied files... this is really annoying and i cant find out how to turn it off! pllzzz help ;D15:43
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jonathan__i've a question :)15:46
mc_hi. I have kubuntu 7.04 and want to upgrade to 7,10  I downloaded: kubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso.  How to upgrade now?15:46
eeelove this chatt room15:46
jonathan__i want to convert a whole directory with wma files into mp3 files without losing quality and id tags... is that possibly (with ffmpeg)??15:46
alx54mc_ if you want to use the iso version you have to burn it to a cd15:47
jonathan__why 7.10? you know that 8.04 is already available in stable version?15:47
geekyou WILL lose quality when you trancode between two lossy tracks15:47
jonathan__ok, can i do it allthough?15:47
Picijonathan__: You cannot upgrade with the desktop CD, only the alternate.  Although if you have an internet connection on that computer it will probably be easier.15:48
mc_i need this version for mce15:48
Pici!upgrade | jonathan__ to follow these steps15:48
ubottujonathan__ to follow these steps: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes15:48
jonathan__without losing id tags because it would be very hard to reenter all track datas to over 30 files15:48
jonathan__i dont want to upgrade!15:48
jonathan__say it to mc!15:48
alx54geek, Pici, eee ... does somebody know how to solve my prob?15:49
alx54everytime i copy sth from my usb-hdd, konqueror(or dolphin) informs me that he's unable to change the mode (or "rights", im not sure about the term cause i use german version)of the copied files... this is really annoying and i cant find out how to turn it off! pllzzz help ;D15:49
jonathan__what about the conversion from wma to mp3?15:50
Picijonathan__: whoops.15:50
alx54jonathan__ i used transKode script for amarok15:50
Picimc_: You cannot upgrade with the desktop CD, only the alternate.  Although if you have an internet connection on that computer it will probably be easier.15:50
alx54works pretty good, and tags stay15:50
Pici!upgrade | mc_ to follow these steps15:50
ubottumc_ to follow these steps: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes15:50
Picijonathan__: all those underscores confused me.15:51
sorush20just wanted to say I love kubuntu but how to I setup proxy. I have pac file I need to detect15:51
jonathan__no problem :)15:51
mc_I already found thos notes, but the program "Update manager" is not in the menu15:51
jonathan__thanks a lot :)15:51
sorush20my clock is not updateing automatically..15:52
mc_can I start the update manager from the command prompt?15:52
moza_idlemc_ i found "add/remove" package manager under the category "system" in all applications15:53
geekalx54: what filesystems/15:53
alx54geek i thought the fs on the usbdrive doesnt matter since it is connected via usb, am i wrong?15:54
colomarHi. Just upgraded kubuntu from hardy to intrepid beta und now I have the 'Could not start kstartupconfig4. Check your installation'-Problem. Does anyone know what to do?15:54
geekalx54: it might. what FS?15:54
geekif its a linux one, you might wanna try chmodding the files with the appropriate permissions...15:55
alx54eerm, not too shure, probably ntfs (it was used by windows-user before)15:55
geekdosen't NTFS3G ignore windows permissions? >_>15:56
alx54mount gives me15:56
alx54this /dev/sdd1 on /media/STUFF type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blks                                                           ize=4096)15:56
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alx54geek the point is that i just dont want to see the info-popup...15:58
alx54@geek since i dont care about permissions (if knew how to, i'd set all files to be owned by me... except system files of course)16:00
geekalx54: sudo chown -R username /path/to/toplevel - this will change ownershop of ALL files and folders below the toplevel one to you16:04
alx54@geek but this isnt dangerous is it? as i understood it, the whole permission-stuff is for security reasons so that programs cant do what they want with whatever files they find right?16:06
wiehanwhat is the best way to create flash animations on linux?16:08
alx54@geek weird, konsole tells me that there is something missing after the path!?16:10
miltonesalut à tous16:10
Denisemissing after the path??16:11
jussi01!fr | miltone16:11
ubottumiltone: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr16:11
geekalx54: wierd. i've done it a LOT. the command should be right ;p16:16
daajackgood bye16:17
alx54sudo chown -R $alx /media/dasX/16:17
alx54chown: fehlender Operand nach „/media/dasX/“16:17
alx54this is what it says, cant help it16:17
sorush20hi apt-get update willnot work16:17
sorush20any help16:17
sorush20I'm behind a proxy16:17
eagles0513875!info ldap16:19
ubottuPackage ldap does not exist in hardy16:19
sorush20anyone here behind a university firewall and proxy?16:23
sorush20I don't even know what to search for on google16:23
vasyhi pls help me to get my wifi working in kubuntu intrepid alpha 616:33
jussi01vasy: please ask in #ubuntu+1 :)16:33
vasyok thankss jussi0116:33
vasyjust one small clarrification.. is that everyone facing same problem16:34
peacehi.. i instaled few progams with adept installer about 1hour ago. first time it asked for password..now it dont..why?16:34
jussi01vasy: usually people in here will be running hardy, #ubuntu+1 is the place for intrepid atm16:35
Teiseipeace: Did you run it as root or normal user ? (sudo vs. without)16:35
vasycool.. sorry guyss16:35
vasycatch u later16:35
Teiseipeace: It may even remember your password for some time16:35
peaceteisei - i turn on pc..i login with default user( the one i choosed during install ) and then i loaded adept installer..it asked password so i entered it..thats it16:37
frybyehi - i am installing java with apt-get and it has displayed a page of liscene text and i now have to enter the ok - how to do this?? I am jus sorta stuck at the page of text in the terminal...?16:43
bazhangfrybye, tab then enter16:44
ejavieranybody from puerto rico?16:45
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots16:47
eeehello robot!16:48
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eeeit's you hehe16:48
shhehi every body16:48
eeewhat are you doing16:48
shheit is the first time for me here16:48
shheI am switching from windows16:49
eeethis is a chat is you have problems whit you computer16:49
eeei did the same16:49
eeein windows is there to much Virues16:49
shheI know16:49
eeei do to16:50
shheby the way, can I use my yahoo messenger through linux?16:50
PiciThis is actually just the support channel. Offtopic chatter in #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic.16:50
Tanazzociao a tutti16:50
Pici!it | Tanazzo16:50
ubottuTanazzo: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)16:50
eeeHello i'm the ultimate robot chater in #Kubuntu16:50
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bazhangeee no cursing16:51
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peacei still cant fix my problems with ati graphics17:07
sc0tt_Íàðîä, ïîäñêàæèòå, ïîäêë ñìàðòôîí ÷åðåç usb, virtualbox âèäåë åãî, ïîñëå ïåðåçàãðóçêè íå âèäèò. Êàê áîðîòüñÿ?17:14
Denisewhat is that scriptures17:15
peaceits english channel you mormon :)17:15
kc8pxybe nice.17:16
Denisewhat language is that17:16
* kc8pxy represents that remark.17:16
peacei am :) i guess its russian or smth17:16
sc0tt_sorry :)17:16
mefisto__can vmware do directx in kubuntu?17:16
mozahello all... do somebody know if konqueror handles mounting/unmounting devices such as SD-cards?17:18
kc8pxyi'm trying to view a mms stream (.asf stream file)  how do i make that play in kubuntu?17:18
peacehow to make ati drivers work fine? if i enable restriced drivers and restart, i get black screen :(17:20
n3ksushey, does any1 know how to install the eyetoy cam module, or where to find it?17:21
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peacedoes envy drivers fits for kubuntu also??17:27
DeniseI see17:28
Denisesort of17:28
ubottuRetrieve information on a package: !info <package>17:36
anger_!info nick17:37
ubottuPackage nick does not exist in hardy17:37
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.17:37
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Novellhi, does the 2.6.27-4-generic kernel include the patch to make the NVM read-only on e1000 cards ? and why doesn't my ethernet card on my X61s work with that kernel ?17:40
Novell(Kubuntu 8.10)17:40
JackWinteri'm getting this error from konqueror lately: Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:  klauncher said: Unknown protocoll ".17:50
JackWinterrunning apt-get install kde did not help :)17:51
Deniseapt-get install geisha17:51
VermuxI just installed 7.1017:51
ninjafuryHi. Interesting question: I've got 2 pc's setup, one's a server, one's a client. The client gets a shell from the server over ssh. How do I open programs in X on the server from the client? When I try 'open xxx', from the shell, it tries to open it on the clients X server.17:52
afeijohi folks17:55
afeijowho use Kontact with eGroupware?17:55
zer0odoes anyone use openoffice? i need to rotate text and dunno how to do it just to a part of the page, not all of it18:00
peacehii :) i installed compiz and i cant find anywhere to load it on kde 418:03
ghostcubepeace: isnt there enable desktop effects18:04
ghostcubeif not try it with fusion-icon18:04
peacei did this - compiz -- replace18:04
peacethen i got some kind error.. where allwindows are frozen :D18:04
peaceso i did this..18:04
peacepeace@peace:~$ kwin --replace18:04
peaceX Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 318:04
peace  Major opcode: 20 (X_GetProperty)18:04
peace  Resource id:  0x480001e18:04
peacekwin(6879) KDecorationPlugins::loadPlugin: kwin : path  "/usr/lib/kde4/lib/kde4/kwin3_oxygen.so"  for  "kwin3_oxygen"18:04
peacethanx and sorry for spam18:05
kc8pxyi think i manged the install of a codec.  how do i remove it and re0install?(it was for kaffine18:05
Denisewhy the 3 in kwin3_oxygen?18:07
ghostcubepeace: what grafic card is this18:09
peaceati agp 385018:10
ghostcubeso you running fglrx ?18:10
peacei instaled envy.. i guess it works im not sure.. dunno how to check18:10
peacewith restricted drivers i always get black screen.. :)18:11
ghostcubeglxinfo | grep direct18:11
afeijono egroupware here?18:11
advi'm trying to connect to a wpa network after a fresh install and it can't connect. i'm entering the right pass18:11
peace<ghostcube> glxinfo | grep direct -- this is for me ?18:12
peacedirect:rendering:yes..but still hm..18:13
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats18:13
ghostcubepeace: ok sudo apt-get install fusion-icon18:13
peacedone.. and the main problem is that i cant move any windows anywhere.. :)18:14
ghostcubeyeah hzave u installed emerald ?18:15
ghostcubesudo apt-get install emerald compizconfig-settings-manager18:15
afeijowhy emerald? I dont use it18:17
ghostcubecause it works :)18:18
advthe scroller in my bluetooth mouse doesn't work18:19
advwhat can i do?18:19
sfears_i'm having major problems with the .config files in my home/username folder.. anyone know how to help me reinstall a couple of necessary config files18:19
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rickestadv: probably add Option "ZAxisMapping" to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf18:20
Dephistohi, is here any Czech?18:20
ubottuČeské uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.18:20
sfears_i'd look up how to on google but when i type in an addressin konqueror it gives me a malformed url error18:20
Dephistomy question is, I have kubuntu, and I want turn on my pcmcia wifi card, because it does not do anything, after i put it in18:21
Dephistothe card's name is compex iWavePort WL11b+18:21
Dephistodoes anybody here have any experiences with pcmcia cards?18:22
rickestDephisto: I don't, sorry18:22
Dephistonever mind..18:22
Dephistoso many people and no one who could help?18:24
rickestDephisto: might try #wireless, I don't know18:26
Denisewhat is the problem18:27
Dephistopcmcia card, how to make it work18:28
Dephistowifi card18:28
Deniseiu tested it correctly?18:29
nixboxare there some utilities in ubuntu which make it easier to get the latest kernel sources and compile them?18:32
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v6lurnixbox: kernelcheck ?18:43
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HestonHello, im trying to uninstall Konqueror but in adept, Konqueror is reported as not being installed18:50
Agent_bobsudo apt-get remove --purge konqueror*18:51
HestonAgent_bob, is this normal behaviour for adept though?18:52
Agent_bobi don't know, i think i have used adept one time.18:52
Hestonany particular reason to not use it?18:53
Agent_bobyeah. cause i don't use a gui and adept is a gui app18:54
Hestonwell ok then...I meant in terms of functionality, like dependency support18:54
Hestoncurious, if you dont use a DE, why idle in Kubuntu? :p18:55
Agent_bobthe atmospheer ?18:56
Hestondidnt realise there was one18:56
smokeythemanwhat does k in kde stand for?18:57
Agent_bobthere surely is.   /j #debian and see...18:57
Agent_bobsmokeytheman  it stands for    k18:57
smokeythemanis k a language?18:57
NakkelIf I do a upgrade to Intrepid thru update-manager, does this install KDE4 side by side with KDE3 or removes KDE3? Also how well do KDE4 progs munch my old KDE3 configs?18:58
HestonAgent_bob, your command wants to remove kubuntu-desktop*...probably not what i want18:58
Agent_bobHeston why not ?18:58
Hestonwell its obviously a meta package for a lot of over things18:58
Agent_boband ?18:59
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Hestonim not saying I cant work around this, but I wouldnt be handing out that command to new comers18:59
Agent_bobHeston why not ?19:00
HestonAgent_bob, because its going to uninstall a lot more than just Konq19:00
Agent_bobi would not hesitate to tell anyone to   sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop19:00
Agent_bobor  *buntu-desktop   for that matter19:00
Hestoni think you've missed the boat19:00
Agent_bobthey are only meta packages,  the things they depend on are already installed.19:01
smokeythemanmy bad, i thought de was development enviorment19:02
Agent_bobclose,   s=development=desktop=19:03
HestonNakkel, you might want to ask in #ubuntu+119:04
NakkelHeston: Roger that, ty.19:05
uncleanhey this is the first time getting this message " Starting without Admin privledges"19:05
PC18-Sala3-381son nuevo en esto por favor comprendanme19:05
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.19:06
n3ksushello, i need help with setting up eyetoy webcam19:07
n3ksusv4l2: open /dev/video0: No such file or directory19:07
n3ksusv4l2: open /dev/video0: No such file or directory19:07
n3ksusv4l: open /dev/video0: No such file or directory19:07
n3ksusno grabber device available19:07
n3ksuswhat grabber do i use?19:08
PC18-Sala3-381muchas gracias19:08
_2si d nada19:08
n3ksusthis is the english room right?19:09
ghostcubehe showed him es room :)19:09
n3ksuslol i was worried :p19:09
ghostcubeits mostly mainroom-country19:10
n3ksuswell with the webcam if u can help, i need a grabber for it, i have the eye toy webcam module installed....19:10
ghostcubeso only -addons is not english most times19:10
n3ksuslol fair enough19:10
ghostcubeno idea on eyetoy jave u checked uvc and gspca homepoage ?19:11
* Agent_bob wonders what language that was19:11
ghostcubetypo english19:12
ghostcubenew version19:12
Hestoni think ill fork the old version19:12
ghostcubeold one is kave instead of jave :D19:14
kletociao a tt19:15
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots19:16
sfears_can i use the live cd to format & reinstall ONLY the /home folder & boot up with an existing / and have everything work??19:16
Agent_bobof course19:16
sfears_was that of course to me Agent_bob ??19:17
Agent_bobsfears_ you can do anything you want, on /home from the live cd without affecting the system.   you will of course lose personal data of course.19:17
Agent_bobsfears_ you can also use the installed system and do the same things19:18
chrisrwill kde 4 be standard in intrepid?19:21
Agent_bobchrisr yes19:21
chrisrcan't wait :-)19:21
uncleanHow did my Ardy start "Without Admin Privledges" ???19:23
Agent_bobunclean open a terminal and enter.   sudo echo boo19:23
Agent_bobif it boo's at you you have admin priv's if not then no.19:24
gamesworldQuoi,  Wgat?19:25
gamesworldWho cans speak french?19:25
gamesworldQui parle francais??19:26
gamesworld Who is there????19:27
gamesworldBye ;-(19:28
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ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr19:37
Agent_bobunclean so you can sudo   what's the issue ?19:37
_2genii comming or going ?19:39
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frybyehow to start compiz-fusion after install and config with ccsm....?19:41
Mr_Panhi, do u know how to configure a Dazzle VCD 80   ?19:43
uncleanagent_bob: It said I wasnt Admin. I think cause I had synaptic open and I restarted19:44
uncleanbut i  'sudo echo boo' put in my PW and it just said boo19:44
Agent_bobunclean i can't help what it said.   if that sudo test "boo'd" at you, you are "root jr."  i.e. full admin rights.   i have never seen a message about admin privs   so can't say why it did that.19:45
mdrWhat package is the kde 4 desktop.  Is it realistically usable?   How much disk space?   I'm guesing there's still kinks.19:49
ubottuKDE 4.1.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.1 - Support in #kubuntu-kde419:50
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ekPici: You using KDE-4.1.2 by chance?20:02
Piciek: I'm not even using KDE 3.520:02
ekOh. Wait. I wasn't aware there was a #Kubuntu-KDE4 channel.20:02
ekPici: Using KDE at all?20:02
Piciek: Nope.20:02
ekWhat's your DE of choice?20:03
PiciGnome :)20:03
ekWhy in #Kubuntu then? Shizzles'n'grins?20:03
PiciBut I help here with the rest of the non DE specific issues.20:03
ekFair enough.20:03
ekI only use Linux at work. But, I help when I can.20:03
afeijomy smtp server isnt working! :(20:03
ekafeijo: What MTA are you using?20:04
ekWhat errors is it giving?20:04
ekafeijo: And you be a little more specific? Does your mail log say anything about why?20:06
Agent_bobhmm i guess i need some warez !     i don't seem to have a vbrun?00.dll for my wintindow system....20:10
* Agent_bob searches special warez site for the needed files...20:11
afeijocan I remove mail.log? it is too big, over 3mb20:12
Agent_bobafeijo you can   but rather than removing it you might want to just blank it.20:13
Agent_bobafeijo   : > file.to.blank20:13
peaceanyone can guide how to install restricted drivers ati..if it causes black screen?20:14
Agent_bobafeijo that will allow daemons to continue logging there while removing the file will "bumb fuzzel" them20:14
afeijoAgent_bob: I like touch cmd ;)20:15
afeijoAgent_bob: I finally got dovecot to work, imap ruling!!20:15
Agent_bobafeijo doesn't blank a file tho20:15
Agent_boband pardon my lag.20:16
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afeijoops, I did something wrong20:24
Agent_bobtouch is in many ways the same as   : >> blah     while : > blah    is more like    rm blah ;touch blah    execpt that if anything is accessing blah, then deleting it will break the connection.  while blanking it wont.20:24
afeijoaccessing my IMAP, show msg msgs until sep/25, from that date, I cant access it.  Shell keep telling me that I have msgs on /var/mail/feijo, but with mutt I dont see it20:25
|-phreak-|im here noob20:28
MarcCshould alsa be located in /sbin/alsa?20:30
MarcCcan you only uninstall compiled software if you still have the source code around?20:32
basculeMarcC: you need the build tree, the actual executables get created within that directory tree, so yes20:33
afeijowhat do I need to install to use smtp with postfix?20:34
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Agent_bob!info sendmail20:36
ubottusendmail (source: sendmail): powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.14.2-2build1 (hardy), package size 3 kB, installed size 248 kB20:36
Agent_bobmaybe ?20:37
tzdhow do i change true type settings in kubuntu hardy please? Googling only takes me to "old obscure places ;P"20:38
P5YCH00neeed assistanmce20:39
P5YCH00anybody here20:39
tzdyes, chill and ask your question and someone will help you20:40
P5YCH00can't chill have error20:40
Pici!ask | P5YCH0020:40
ubottuP5YCH00: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)20:40
P5YCH00i installed ubuntu20:40
P5YCH00i ran teriminal20:40
P5YCH00and ran CPAN20:40
kc8pxyok,  for some reason, I have no sound in kaffine wheather i play a stream or a avi. i have yet to get any sound, but the mixer seems to be up.20:40
P5YCH00it asked me to confirm dirs20:41
P5YCH00i come across my warning message sying20:41
P5YCH00where is my lynx program20:41
P5YCH00how can i get neecesary files20:42
P5YCH00for CPAN20:42
P5YCH00like lynx or what not20:42
benbloommaking one last effort to avoid installing Wine20:58
* benbloom whines20:58
metehanhi anyone can help me about compaq nx 7300 wireless firmware update for kubuntu !!20:58
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frybyeany tips on installing skype on 64bit 8.1 beta - on that channel no response so far...21:05
peaceits easyy21:06
peaceeven i big noob managed21:06
frybyeok - g a21:06
Hestonyou download the package from skypes website21:06
frybyeand then unpack and then crashes on start... or?21:06
peacein this link paste this in terminal21:07
peaceat least i did that and i have full normal skype21:07
peaceafter that.. write in terminal skype to load it and install normally21:07
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Caliendosalut tt le monde21:08
Caliendohi all21:08
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lulugood evening i need help21:13
lului have problem whit my system21:13
anger_Hi lulu21:14
lului cant open programm and my terminal ist white after installing drive for graikcard21:15
luluplease help me21:16
luluhi anger can you help me21:16
lulusorrz my keyboard ist olso crasy21:17
advhow can i test my webcam?21:18
ubottuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras21:19
ninjafuryHas anyone gotten Rhythmbox to work in kubuntu?21:23
Hestonninjafury, if you arent too attached to  Rhythmbox, i strongly recommend vlc21:24
ninjafuryHeston: Can vlc read DAAP shares?21:25
Hestonninjafury, i believe so21:25
ninjafuryHeston: I can't seem to read DAAP shares with vlc. Is there a plugin that I need to install?21:28
Nyadhello, I want to list the last files that were added to a directory, time stamps only show modification date so I dunno how to view the junk I accidentally moved to my home dir21:29
Hestonninjafury, im not sure, by default daap supported is supposed to be compiled in21:30
ninjafuryhmm, can't seem to get it working, and googling for help isn't getting me anywhere21:30
Hestonperhaps ask in the vlc channel21:31
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Hestonninjafury, did you make sure to enable DAAP discovery in the Playlist window?21:33
Hestonninjafury, though to be fair, i dont see it myself21:34
ninjafuryHeston: I enabled 'Bonjour services' from the playlist's 'Additional Sources' menu. But that doesnt help21:35
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Hestonninjafury, I dont know what else to tell you then, sorry21:36
ninjafuryHeston: Thanks anyway, will ask in vlc21:37
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sylenzehello i have a question about wlan21:40
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benbloomquit (rebooting)21:52
sourcemakercan I upgrade to kubuntu 8.10 using cryptoLUKS (whole encrypted file system) in hardy???21:52
cgahi all, is amarok 2 going to be in kubuntu 8.10 ?21:57
cgaor at least a repo for it?21:57
favrocga: the folks in #ubuntu+1 will know21:58
ZombineAnyone have trouble with their touchpad's vertical scroll taking up half the pad rather than just the edge21:58
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ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots22:02
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peaceis here anyone who can help with ati drivers?:))22:20
HollowPointthat depends on the problem peace22:20
FuriousGeorgehey all22:20
peacewhole day im trying something.. :)22:21
FuriousGeorgei have a tale of two distros (gentoo and kubuntu), and how they are handling ps/2 and usb hardware22:21
FuriousGeorgemy understanding is that ps/2 barcode scanners are just like keyboards22:21
FuriousGeorgewhen i plug it into my gentoo servers, they are22:21
FuriousGeorgefor some reason, in kubuntu they only work if there is a ps/2 keyboard on the adapter that is built into the barcode scanners wire22:22
peacehollowpoint my xorg.conf is very empty and i cant enable restricted drivers, i get black screen.. :)22:22
FuriousGeorgeiow, the barcode scanner (which is ps/2) has a built in adapter, for people using usb keyboards...  in kubuntu the scanner only 'works' when that adapter is in use22:23
FuriousGeorgealso, i have a ps/2 -> usb adapter22:23
FuriousGeorgein gentoo, again, just works22:23
HollowPointpeace: what graphics card and version of kubuntu are you using?22:23
FuriousGeorgein kubuntu it will only work if I hook another keyboard up to the server, and hit a key like caps lock22:24
peacekubuntu 8.04 kde 4 64bit.. video card - ati 3850 agp22:24
FuriousGeorgeand back to the scanner, it never actually works in kubuntu...  even when it scans, it doest return the value on the barcode22:24
favroFuriousGeorge: do they have diff kernel versions - kubuntu and gentoo?22:25
HollowPointpeace: you will find a lot of problems with the ati restricted drivers on an AGP card and 64bit Linux22:25
HollowPointati drivers for linux have never been all that good, nor that easy to install, and on a 64bit OS that just gets even harder, you're probably going to have to install the 32 bit drivers and just force them to accept the 32bit architecture, which although not too big of a problem for some other programs it's not what I'd recommend for graphics drivers22:26
FuriousGeorgefavro: 2 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP on kubuntu and 2.6.24-gentoo-r8 #2 SMP on gentoo22:26
peaceis it possible to make it work normally? or i should go for kubuntu 32bit 8.04 kde4 ?:)22:26
HollowPointpeace: you'll probably have more luck with ease of install in 32 bit linux for that card22:27
peaceare there other linux user friendly as ubuntu with ati support?22:27
HollowPointyou won't find anything easier no22:28
favroFuriousGeorge: it's prob a config setting in the kernel - I say "prob"22:28
HollowPointUbuntu is by far the most user friendly distro and easiest to install proprietary drivers etc22:28
peacei see that.. :)22:28
NickPrestapeace, check out OpenSuse if you like. It is very user friendly, albeit different in some aspects22:29
peacewell i tried ubuntu gutsy a year ago..wasnt been able to install ati there too..22:29
HollowPointgive Mandriva a try though, that seems to be excellent at installing graphics/Xorg drivers without too much intervention22:29
HollowPointOpenSuse is one of the most ridiculous distros ever IMHO, I'm a 3rd line I.T. engineer and specialise in Linux and I've never used something so set in it's ways and tied up, if you don't do it the SUSE way then you just can't do it. - This of course is only my opinion and should not be taken as fact.22:30
peaceyou mean opensuse is easy and flexible or i should go strickly by her to get what i want? - im not good at english :)22:31
HollowPointOpenSUSE is NOT flexible nor easy lol22:31
HNSZCAn I get an md5 hash for kubunut?22:32
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows22:32
HollowPointa lot of people use it but I personally think those who do use it fondly are not particularly good with any other Linux distro than SUSE22:32
HNSZfavro: Great thanks.22:33
peaceso mandriva is a better choice to try? :)22:33
NickPrestaHollowPoint, OpenSuse 11.0 is very easy. I don't know what problems you had...22:33
HollowPointmy personal opinion says yes22:33
HollowPointNickPresta: it uses a version of KDE4 that just wasn't ready for release for a start, Yast is the most dire piece of programming I've ever seen, dropping to the command line for hacking has never been more difficult than in that distro and like I said before if you don't do it the SUSE way, then you just can't do it22:34
NickPrestaHollowPoint, and for a newbie that knows no way of doing something, why is that a problem?22:34
HollowPointafter a couple of hours using SUSE and trying to like it I gave up and decided I just couldn't be bothered wasting my time, I could get further with a Gentoo command line installation in the same time period22:34
VermuxIve just installed kubuntu 8.04. how do I install java and flash so I can surf the www with no problem?22:35
NickPrestaHollowPoint, for a power user, sure, Yast is annoying. For someone that just started with Linux, Yast is familiar and helpful...22:35
NickPresta!flash | Vermux22:35
ubottuVermux: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash22:35
HollowPointNickPresta: I personally don't recommend SUSE for beginners because it's just as bad as Microsoft at getting people to learn IT and nothing else about it, then they struggle to move on22:35
NickPresta!java > Vermux22:35
ubottuVermux, please see my private message22:35
peacevermux go for firefox :) + kubuntu restricted extras22:35
NickPrestaHollowPoint, I'm not here to argue whether or not it is best for a newbie to learn something from the ground up or not. I'm simply telling peace that he could give Suse a try and don't exclude it because other people tell him to22:36
peacepersonally im a bit tired of choosing linux..so i wont give many different tries..22:37
HollowPointthink about this.....You're a brand new user who's never used Linux before, you think after a few days of using Yast you could move on to other Linux distros easily without starting to learn all over again? I say this because I know for sure that people can do exactly that from Ubuntu22:37
peacewell..i guess i will go someday to my uncle pc - it has mandriva and ill try to look at it closely22:37
NickPrestapeace, suit yourself. That is one of the perks of GNU+Linux; choice!22:37
* HollowPoint seconds NickPresta's words22:38
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master_I cannot get today's updates or use adept, because it says something else has the package database open already.. but nothing does..22:38
NickPrestaI'm not personally suggesting *buntu or Suse, I'm just suggesting that you try everything you can since you _will_ find something you like22:38
NickPresta!aptfix | master_22:38
ubottumaster_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »22:38
peacehollowpoint i totally agree with you... personally i used ubuntu for half year..and then after a while..again.. and i still dont know is it safe tostay in default user or i should create another one.. :D althoug i can install flash 32bit on 64bit distro..and so on..but..22:39
peacei like kubuntu kde but im stuck with ati drivers.. :)) just this22:39
HollowPointLinux is a learning curve and it depends on how much you want to learn and how much time you have22:40
peacein ubuntu gutsy i had problems with sound and some other stuff..here i didnt got any22:40
master_NickPresta: I tried that, and it gave an error it says while processing: sun-java6-fonts22:40
Vermuxpeace: what is kubuntu restricted extras?22:40
NickPrestamaster_, in the terminal, sudo apt-get -f install22:40
master_NickPresta: That's the last thing I tried to install with adept, and adept crashed.22:40
HollowPointI'm an I.T. engineer and I run an I.T. company so I don't have the luxury of just being a user :(22:40
peacemaster_ go kill process :) adept something..22:40
peaceit helps.. :D22:40
peacei got this error with java also22:40
peacevermux in add/remove programs you write restricted... and you will be able to get those..22:41
master_NickPresta: last thing you told me is doing stuff.. on message it gave was:  dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `sun-java6-jre' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.22:41
peacehollow you have nvidia card?22:42
HollowPoint"sudo apt-get install firefox flashplugin-nonfree java" should install everything you need to run Firefox and get around the web without seing horrid non compatible errors22:42
NickPrestamaster_, tell me when it stops running and what the output is22:42
HollowPointpeace:  yes I have an older 7600GT PCi-X card, I'm re-builing my PC over the next few weeks so will be upgrading22:43
master_NickPresta: it stopped running and looks like it fixed the problem.. the last few lines look like this: No CIDSupplement specified for Dotum-Bold, defaulting to 0.22:44
peacein other channel im waiting for few guys who are good with ati.. although im not sure i will will catch them22:44
master_I can now go into adept22:44
HollowPointI'm sure you can pick up an Nvidia AGP card somewhere peace, don't get me wrong I've just installed our company laptop with Kubuntu and ATi restricted drivers but it's 32bit Linux and not AGP22:44
master_but, my icon on the lower right for updates is now gone... so, how can i get those patches?22:44
peacejust give me the guide you did and ill fix..i know its possible22:44
NickPrestamaster_, in a terminal: apt-get upgrade and then when its done, apt-get dist-upgrade22:44
master_NickPresta: thanks22:46
HNSZ!java | HNSZ22:49
ubottuHNSZ, please see my private message22:49
HNSZpipes, nice22:49
NickPrestaHNSZ, redirection too22:50
RakkoHi. I want to check out something that uses compiz or a similar eye-candy sort of window/compositing manager. Does Kubuntu have something comparable to compiz out of the box? (I know, lame, but I'm curious as to how it looks)23:02
Rakko(Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the impression that compiz is a GNOME thing)23:03
HollowPointif you go to add/remove packages and type compiz you'll be able to select the compiz packages, check out #compiz for more or google "How to install compiz kubuntu" for a how to guide23:03
RakkoSo KDE works with compiz?23:04
HollowPointnot at all Rakko you can use Compiz in KDE just as easily23:04
Rakkocool :)23:04
RakkoDoes KDE still use kwin by default? Does it do compositing?23:04
HollowPointKDE4 does have SOME compositing by default and yes KDE3.5.9 still uses Kwin23:05
RakkoWhat WM does KDE4 use?23:05
NickPrestaRakko, kwin423:06
HollowPointI believe it's an updated version of kwin but I haven't used it much so not sure, #KDE4 has more info23:06
peacerakko you like gnome? :)23:06
NickPrestakwin does some transparency stuff23:07
NickPrestaKDE4 has a lot of sexy stuff ;)23:07
tacosarecoolHey nick is there a way to downgrade from kde423:07
RakkoI mean GNOME is ok but I've always prefered KDE23:07
RakkoIs KDE4 stable yet?23:07
tacosarecoolI sorta installed intrepid didn't know it was a development branch23:07
RakkoI tried a beta back in May but it was buggy23:07
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!23:07
HollowPointKDE4.1 is stable Rakko but it just isn't as configurable as 3.5.9 yet23:08
NickPrestaRakko, KDE 4.1.1 is fairly stable. I'm using it everyday and I've yet to have a problem. #kubuntu-kde4 can give you more specific support23:08
jussi01also, kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde423:08
NickPrestajussi01, :)23:08
peaceim trying to make it stable :D but its hard..23:08
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tacosarecoolBut I'm sorta in the middle I want to downgrade to kde323:08
jussi01tacosarecool: its less than a month till intrepid fully comes out23:09
HollowPointI installed the beta in a VM yesterday and have to say I was impressed23:09
jussi01tacosarecool: officially, yes23:10
tacosarecoolWill it use kde4 only?23:11
HollowPointby default it uses kde4 yes23:11
HollowPointI would imagine that will be a way to install kde 3.x.x though? anyone know different?23:11
jussi01HollowPoint: Id suggest asking in #ubuntu+123:11
HollowPointlol not interested enough to go ask jussi0123:12
HollowPointI'll probably do a direct upgrade from this 64bit 8.04 system anyway so no doubt I'll be able to keep my kde3.5.9 in place as an option23:12
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tacosarecoolOh okj23:13
tacosarecoolIt's ok to have it23:13
tacosarecoolI have multiple entry's though23:13
peacehow to get xorg configured correctly? :)23:13
peacenevermind :)23:14
HollowPointyou sorted it peace?23:15
peacehaha i log out and i wasnt been able to get back..so i had to restart pc.. i cant complete installing ati because my xorg is too empty..it doesnt have lines and maybe something more..23:15
peacestill there is another method so i can try that one now :D23:16
peaceit will be 5th guide :)23:16
HollowPointI still think 32 bit Kubuntu or Mandriva would be a better idea than 64 bit but sounds like you're having fun working this out :D23:16
peaceim quite interesting person.. :D23:17
peacei depend on how i feel :D23:17
peacei had pretty sux days before.. :)23:17
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