[00:00] <Linux_Galore> micro: check the last line few lines of you /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[00:00] <Linux_Galore> LordCrc: no
[00:01] <LordCrc> Linux_Galore: ah well, except for the extra time, is there any downside to install->upgrade, or should i just grab a fresh cd?
[00:01] <Linux_Galore> LordCrc: if you are asking such a question it tells me you are pretty new thus 8.10 will be beyond you right now as it is alpha
[00:01] <Linux_Galore> LordCrc: grab a fresh disk
[00:02] <Linux_Galore> LordCrc: 8.10 is far from complete right now
[00:02] <LordCrc> Linux_Galore: aaaight, cheers :) and http://www.kubuntu.org/news/8.10-beta :D
[00:02] <micro> Section "Extensions"	Option		"Composite"	"Enable"EndSection
[00:02] <Linux_Galore> micro: you need to change Enable to "Disable"
[00:03] <LordCrc> ok, perhaps ill just go with 8.04 then for now
[00:03]  * Linux_Galore is on 8.10 but knows enough to hack out the bugs
[00:04] <micro> how can I save it from kate? or do i have to do it from console?
[00:04] <LordCrc> aaight, cheers then :)
[00:04] <Linux_Galore> micro: you need to open kate with sudo  ie sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:05] <Linux_Galore> micro: only admin can change a system file
[00:05] <ninjafury> Hi. I'm on intrepid, and everytime I boot up, I have to manually adjust mixer settings in the volume panel to get sound. Anyway to save settings?
[00:06] <Dr1> Anyone know why cp /src/dir /dest/dir -apurv is not copying all the files and folders from an XP PC (I have R permissions to them)?
[00:06] <micro> I know
[00:06] <micro> kate command not found... hmm
[00:07] <Linux_Galore> Dr1: need a capital R
[00:07] <ninjafury> I'm using ALSA and not pulse I think
[00:07] <ninjafury> micro: just use nano
[00:08] <Linux_Galore> alsa -store
[00:08] <Dr1> micro: u do?
[00:08] <Linux_Galore> oops
[00:08] <Linux_Galore> alsactl -store
[00:09] <Linux_Galore> alsactl store   without the switch sorry
[00:09] <Linux_Galore> been ages since I had to use that command
[00:10] <ninjafury> Linux_Galore: and it saves everything? do you know where the config file is located?
[00:10] <Linux_Galore> ninjafury: not of the top of my head
[00:11] <micro> why it hasn't opened the file but created a new instead? am I so stupid?
[00:11] <Linux_Galore> micro: means you did a typo
[00:11] <Linux_Galore> nano wont magically open a file if the path is wrong
[00:11] <Linux_Galore> it creates a blank new one
[00:12] <mefisto__> use tab completion to avoid typos
[00:12] <ninjafury> Linux_Galore: found it in the man page of alsactl. Thanks
[00:13] <micro> sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf is there anything wrong?
[00:14] <Linux_Galore> I'm finding the lock and unlock stuff in kde4 to be very pedantic
[00:14] <Linux_Galore> micro: X11
[00:14] <Linux_Galore> not x11
[00:14] <micro> X
[00:14] <micro> omg
[00:15] <micro> I need to get used to it ...and I want
[00:16] <Linux_Galore> micro: learn to use autocomplete (press tab key)  if you did you would have realises x[tab]  doesnt work thus there must be a typo
[00:18] <micro> yeah it makes sence =P
[00:18] <micro> so now restart?
[00:18] <Linux_Galore> Im amazed Ubuntu doesnt enable the autocomplete with the "ignore case = yes" enabled by default
[00:18] <Linux_Galore> micro: log out then hit ctrl alt backspace
[00:19] <Linux_Galore> micro but first
[00:19] <micro> yes?
[00:19] <Linux_Galore> micro: turn the effetc off in look and feel section in kcontrol
[00:20] <Linux_Galore> in the window section from memory under look and feel
[00:20] <JuJuBee> Linux_Galore: They are unlocked already and I cannot move them
[00:21] <Linux_Galore> did you click on the half moon on the right
[00:21] <JuJuBee> Of course
[00:22] <Linux_Galore> beware it wont allow you to place a widget were something already resides
[00:22] <Linux_Galore> you should get the move arrow (looks like a compas cross)
[00:22] <Linux_Galore> if you have done it right
[00:23] <JuJuBee> I am not talking about moving widgets on the deskop, but in the lower pannel (taskbar)
[00:23] <snarkster> hi
[00:23] <Linux_Galore> yes
[00:23] <Linux_Galore> I just moved a widget to confirm and it works
[00:23] <Linux_Galore> and it does
[00:24] <snarkster> i just bought an acer aspire 6930 laptop anyone have any luck with kubuntu on those?
[00:24] <micro> GUI effects?
[00:24] <Linux_Galore> micro: turn them off
[00:24] <mefisto__> JuJuBee: click the widget, then move it
[00:24] <micro> already turned off
[00:25] <Linux_Galore> micro: just log out now and press ctrl alt backspace
[00:25] <micro> logging out...see you soon... I hope :D
[00:25] <Linux_Galore> then log in again
[00:28] <ubuntoil> does anyone knows about kde4 and nvidia drivers issues ??
[00:29] <Linux_Galore> ubuntoil: broken
[00:29] <Linux_Galore> same as ati
[00:29] <Linux_Galore> so I dont use them right now
[00:30] <ubuntoil> Linux_Galore: what do I use then ??
[00:30] <Linux_Galore> ubuntoil: use the nv driver
[00:31] <ubuntoil> Linux_Galore: and then no issues ??
[00:31] <Linux_Galore> ie change Driver = "nvidia" to Driver = "nv"  in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[00:31] <Linux_Galore> ubuntoil: none other than no 3D support
[00:31] <ubuntoil> Linux_Galore: what do you mean, if I have the proprio drivers and just change my xorg.conf, it's gonna work ??
[00:31] <Linux_Galore> ubuntoil: yes
[00:32] <Linux_Galore> ubuntoil: or just use kde3
[00:32] <Linux_Galore> and it works fine
[00:32] <ubuntoil> Linux_Galore: which is gonna be a little bit more difficult with the coming (K)ubuntu
[00:33] <ubuntoil> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/intrepid-alpha-6
[00:33] <Linux_Galore> ubuntoil: yeah,Im on intrepid and the xorg server is totally different
[00:33] <Linux_Galore> thus the proprietry drivers dont work at all
[00:34] <ubuntoil> Linux_Galore: shall I wait till this issue is fixed before upgrading (maybe 9.04)
[00:34] <ubuntoil> Linux_Galore: not like I'm crazy about update but....
[00:34] <Linux_Galore> ubuntoil: should be fixed later this month ati are releasing new drivers (bit tight there) not sure about nvidia
[00:35] <ubuntoil> Linux_Galore: yeah nvidia, always a little late
[00:36] <Linux_Galore> ubuntoil: Xorg 1.5 is pretty good, new user wil love it, total no brainer, no stuffing around with xorg.conf
[00:36] <ubuntoil> Linux_Galore: let make that very clear, if I use the free drivers I should not have any trouble even though I have an nvidia card...is that it ??
[00:37] <Linux_Galore> ubuntoil: correct
[00:37] <Linux_Galore> ubuntoil: only issue is 3D support
[00:37] <Linux_Galore> ubuntoil: normal desktop use though has no issues only games
[00:38] <ubuntoil> Linux_Galore: I don't play games, so no pb
[00:39] <JuJuBee> linux_galore and mefisto : missing one important thing ... click on cashew first then the widget wish to move.  Just got that from #kde.  THanks for the help anyway.
[00:39] <Linux_Galore> ubuntoil: this would be a none issue if Nvidia released the specs, we will even sign a none discolsure
[00:40] <Linux_Galore> ubuntoil: ati/amd have released theirs
[00:40] <ubuntoil> Linux_Galore: yeah I know...
[00:40] <Linux_Galore> JuJuBee: eeer I told you do do that [sigh]
[00:41] <mefisto__> JuJuBee: that's what we both said isn't it?
[00:41] <Linux_Galore> twice
[00:41] <toti_> Hey, how to change the owner of a file by chmod?
[00:42] <favro> you use chown for that
[00:42] <toti_> ok, thx
[00:42] <Linux_Galore> chown username file
[00:44] <micro> I had some difficulties with wifi but graphics works fine and no kwin errors :) thx a lot
[00:45] <Linux_Galore> micro: kde4 will have the effects built into kwin thus no errors
[00:54] <micro> how can I turn them on and set them up?
[00:55] <Linux_Galore> ?
[00:56] <Linux_Galore> in kubuntu 8.10 there is a tool in your main menu to turn it all on
[00:57] <Linux_Galore> unless you are running an Intel card though I would bother, no Ati or Nvidia driver for Xorg 1.5
[00:57] <Linux_Galore> would'nt
[00:58] <Linux_Galore> sorry, no "proprietary"  driver for Ati and Nvidia in Xorg 1.5
[01:02] <micro> in older kubuntu there is no such tool?
[01:03] <Linux_Galore> not sure never installed kde4 in 8.04
[01:05] <micro> now I'm totaly not sure wich kubuntu did i download and install... but I have KDE4 so?
[01:07] <mefisto__> lsb_release -a    will tell you
[01:10] <micro> I knew there must be a way : D
[01:10] <micro> 8.04.1
[01:24] <Zerothis> I'm trying to use a USB drive to install ubuntu on another computer with no CD drive. I used UNebootin, Ubuntu, 8.04_Live. I think I wrote to the previously blank drive correctly (it shows 21 files/folders including "syslinux.cfg") but the other computer does not find a bootable image on the USB drive (I disabled all boot options except USB, still doesn't find it).
[01:32] <LeeJunFan> Zerothis: have you tested on the other computer to rule out the USB stick contents?
[01:38] <etfb> I can't make "Open Containing Folder" in Firefox's Download Manager do anything at all.  It seems like an issue with mime times or default applications or something.  Can anyone offer any steps to fix the problem?
[01:42] <LeeJunFan> etfb: you're right about what's causing it.
[01:42] <LeeJunFan> etfb: it's probably trying to use a filemanager it can't find. just a sec.
[01:44] <etfb> LeeJunFan: I followed some instructions on setting up network.protocol-handler.app.file = /usr/bin/konqueror, but they had no effect.
[01:44] <LeeJunFan> etfb: okay, in your ~/.mozilla/firefox directory you'll find a default dir, go in there and rename or remove mimeTypes.rdf, then start firefox.
[01:44] <LeeJunFan> etfb: firefox3 is different.
[01:45] <LeeJunFan> you can try finding what you need to edit in that file, but it's formatting is kind of a pain.
[01:45] <LeeJunFan> Actually you'll be looking for the RDF:about="urn:scheme:externalApplication:file"RDF:about="urn:scheme:externalApplication:file"
[01:46] <LeeJunFan> etfb: you could just change the alwaysAsk= to "true", then next time you try it'll ask which application to use as a filemanager.
[01:47] <etfb> LeeJunFan: Trying that now...
[01:49] <LeeJunFan> don't forget to close all open firefox before, or when you close it it will write over your changes.
[01:50] <etfb> LeeJunFan: Seems to be working!  Where's the "alwaysAsk" setting, tho?
[01:52] <etfb> Interestingly, it pops up with one option as the default - konqueror - but using it has no effect, almost as if I've set up something somewhere to refer to konqueror instead of /usr/bin/konqueror and it's not finding it in the path.
[01:52] <etfb> But manually entering the right path does work, so thanks!
[01:53] <LeeJunFan> etfb: no problem, once you've got that selected to the konqueror that works you can tell it to remember that.
[02:00] <Zerothis> LeeJunFan: never mind, i managed to get my device to recognise a CD-R/W drive on my USB-IDE cable.
[02:11] <kc8pxy> heya people. i have 2 "identical" 40GB drives, and i'm trying to install kubuntu on a sw raid 1 of those drives.  i don't see that option in the installer partition options. how do i do that?
[02:12] <favro> !raid
[02:19] <alimon> hi
[02:23] <freeRag> is there a kubuntu USB version ?
[02:23] <kc8pxy> favro:  the first link seems to be the right option, but it doesn't fly for kubuntu(unless i am not reading the download menu right).  i don't see a link to a an alternate install,  unless you count the kde4 disk.
[02:24] <favro> !usb | freeRag
[02:24] <favro> !alternate
[02:24] <freeRag> im running windows
[02:25] <genii> freeRag: Also visit the pendrivelinux  website
[02:25] <favro> freeRag:  For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[02:25] <freeRag> can i use fedoras live usb creator to install kubuntu ?
[02:26] <LordCrc> ok, bit silly question... running 8.04, i installed several apps, but i can only find them in the "start menu" by searching for them (say kdevelop)... where are they hiding? :)
[02:29] <mefisto__> did you just install them LordCrc?
[02:30] <freeRag> why isn't there a windows live usb creator ?
[02:32] <LordCrc> mefisto__: i used the "Add/Remove Programs" program
[02:35] <LordCrc> ah, if i go into konq -> apps, i see the development category, where kdevelop is hiding
[02:35] <LordCrc> but why isnt it on the "start menu" hmm
[02:39] <ken> Hi, I'm completely new to Kubuntu and was wondering if I could get steered in the right direction. Right now I'm wondering how to set up su...
[02:40] <ken> is there a default password, because atm I just don't know the password.
[02:41] <LordCrc> ken: afaik use sudo everywhere, alternatively you can do sudo su or something along those lines
[02:42] <genii> Use sudo -i      instead
[02:43] <ken> thanks.
[02:43] <ken> I tried sudo but did not have -i
[02:43] <genii> ken: After done doing admin things back to regular prompt with      exit
[02:47] <freeRag> this how too doesn't mention intrepid
[02:49] <LordCrc> since vnc is broken on kde4, what's my alternatives for connecting to it from a windows box?
[02:49] <freeRag> can i skip some files so has to get more storage space available on the drive ?
[02:51] <mefisto__> LordCrc: try update-menus, or open kmenuedit (right-click the kmenu) and save. then check to see if the new apps are there
[02:51] <LordCrc> mefisto__: cheers ill try that
[02:52] <freeRag> can i use UNetbootin to install itrepid to USB drive ?
[02:53] <LordCrc> ah cheers, kmenuedit did the trick
[02:55] <LordCrc> and ill try x11vnc instead of krfb
[02:56] <Daisuke_Ido> freeRag: #ubuntu+1 is the place for intrepid questions
[02:56] <mefisto__> LordCrc: I use tastymenu instead of kmenu, it never seems to have that problem
[02:56] <carutsu> Daisuke_Ido: how about the upgrading proces ?
[02:57] <LordCrc> mefisto__: ill check it out :)
[02:57] <Daisuke_Ido> #ubuntu+1
[02:57] <Daisuke_Ido> that is the place for *all* intrepid-related questions
[02:57] <carutsu> thanks
[02:57] <Daisuke_Ido> for the next month
[02:59] <Denise> flowers and bees?
[03:05] <sumo_su> my ubunto won't boot... it seems to see the file system as read only. any advice?
[03:06] <rockindude> wassup
[03:08] <william__> sumo_su: is it a grub error
[03:09] <sumo_su> william__ how would i go fix it?
[03:09] <jevon_> has anyone had any problems updating the standard Kubuntu 8.04 release repositories through Adept?
[03:10] <sumo_su> it seems to boot me as read only... so i cant change the grub or can i?
[03:10] <jevon_> when I run apt-get update, it says some of the repos have been moved temporarily
[03:11] <freeRag> should i install the daily live version ?
[03:18] <mefisto__> jevon: a few people have been having problems updating today
[03:20] <mefisto__> jevon: try a different download server. you can change it easily from adept, or « kdesudo software-properties-kde »
[03:22] <kc8pxy> freeRag: .......  because they don't think of people installing from free "
[03:22] <nb72> Hopefully a quick question.  I'm trying to enable an external monitor (LCD TV with VGA input).  I used to be able to plug it in, restart, and it would work.  Now if I do that the computer hangs while logging in (KDE 4.1).  I have a laptop with an ATI (200X I think) if that helps.
[03:22] <kc8pxy> freeRag: .......  because they don't think of people installing from free "cds"??   anyways, isn't that Q a bit off-topic?
[03:51] <freeRag> kc8pxy: what the hell are you talking about ?
[03:55] <LordCrc> x11vnc borked :/
[03:57] <trigg3r> can someone help me setting up wifi on kubunutu?  it finds the card but when i try to connect to the router (security is turned off for now) knetworkmanager hangs at 28%
[04:01] <dougb> why is kubuntu a live dvd and ubuntu is a live CD?
[04:01] <dougb> for 8.10
[04:06] <tekteen> there is also a kubuntu live cd
[04:06] <tekteen> and an ubuntu live dvd
[04:07] <tekteen> they have both I believe
[04:09] <trigg3r> can someone help me setting up wifi on kubunutu?  it finds the card but when i try to connect to the router (security is turned off for now) knetworkmanager hangs at 28%
[04:11] <Guest32598> I am trying to install Kubuntu for the first time and I can not get my TV Out to work on my Nvidia card
[04:12] <Guest32598> any ideas
[04:12] <CoJaBo-Eee> trigg3r: Does it happen to work if you try it a large number of times? Mine does that, still wondering why...
[04:12] <Guest32598> i cannot even get it to reconize i have a tv connected
[04:13] <trigg3r> CoJaBo-Eee: have not tried because that would be a waste and to me would mean the app is half ass
[04:13] <bdizzle> hi, I was wondering if anyone knew how to get mms protocol to work in firefox?
[04:14] <anger_> Install mplayer-mozilla
[04:15] <adam__> does anyone have an idea on how to get my Nvidia card to work good with kubuntu
[04:16] <anger_> Install de proprietary driver
[04:17] <adam__> i have tried and nvidia does not have the right driver for kubuntu
[04:17] <bdizzle> anger_: I've got mplayer installed for firefox
[04:17] <CoJaBo-Eee> trigg3r: Double-check the settings, make sure you are using DHCP (theres no way to set the static IP to use), and see if it works with another network (it just doesn't like mine, but works flawlessly with any other I've tried).
[04:18] <trigg3r> CoJaBo-Eee: dhcp is set.  and i have no other network to test
[04:18] <CoJaBo-Eee> trigg3r: Does connecting from any other computer work?
[04:19] <trigg3r> CoJaBo-Eee: yes another computer (windoze box) is working
[04:20] <CoJaBo-Eee> Are there any router settings that are not default?
[04:22] <Zerothis> I have an install problem, my IDE hard drive is ntfs. When I use manual or guided, I get the error "the ext3 file system creation is partition #1 of SCSI (0,0,0) (sda) failed". Using ubuntu 8.04_Live CD. The CD and HD are on the same cable, due to only 1 IDE connector on the MB.
[04:23] <trigg3r> CoJaBo-Eee: no they are set to default.  the only thing that might not be normal is that the lin box is a laptop and is currently connected through a wired connection... but i have ried rebooting with the ethernet cable unplugged and wifi still will not connect
[04:24] <CoJaBo-Eee> What model is the router?
[04:24] <genii> Zerothis: Is the hd master or slave on the ribbon?
[04:25] <bdizzle> grr, mplayer keeps saying its connected, then immediately goes to "stopped"
[04:25] <Zerothis> master is the end of the ribbon and slave the middle ?
[04:25] <genii> Yes
[04:25] <Zerothis> then HD is master
[04:25] <genii> (if both are on cable select)
[04:26] <Zerothis> both CS
[04:26] <genii> OK so sda is correct designation.
[04:27] <rusellcom> alguien sabe español
[04:27] <genii> zerothis: Are you trying to wipe it and make linux only or resize the ntfs?
[04:27] <trigg3r> CoJaBo-Eee: Netgear wnr834b
[04:27] <tekteen> !es| rusellcom
[04:28] <zerothis> yes, I dont have a license, the last owner didnt format it. I hate windows and XP in paticular. I won be using it for wine
[04:28] <genii> zerothis: That doesn't exactly clarify
[04:29] <genii> zerothis: You're keeping part ntfs or making it all into a linux partition?
[04:29] <zerothis> sorry, I trying to wipe the entire drive and make it linux only
[04:31] <genii> zerothis: OK. Does it let you de-allocate the partition from being ntfs before you make it into a linux partition? (before formatting is attempted)
[04:36] <zerothis> genii: not sure. in manual mode I selected each partition (ntfs & unknown) and deleted them. then set 9771, primary, beginning of drive, /, format. Then the remaining free space to swap (it did not let me format this one). in guided, I was not given options.
[04:38] <genii> Hmm
[04:38] <genii> zerothis: You're currently here from livecd?
[04:39] <zerothis> yes, ubuntu 8.04_Live
[04:39] <genii> OK
[04:41] <genii> zerothis: Close or cancel for now the partitoner. Then open up a Konsole. From there we will try it with fdisk method
[04:42] <zerothis> genii: i have terminal open (not Konsole), this ok?
[04:46] <mefisto__> trying to use virtualbox for the first time. I can't get a cd or iso to boot to install the os. when I click start, virtualbox says aborted
[04:50] <zerothis> fdisk -l shows 2 unknown partitions, a novel netware 386 partition, and an "Empty" partition. ? all are "does not end on cylinder"
[04:50] <genii-2> Bah disconnects
[04:53] <genii-3> hmm
[04:55] <zerothis> what size, in cylinders, show a swap partition be?
[04:55] <genii> In Mb/Gb should be about twice size of your RAM
[05:05] <zerothis> genii:I'm lost in fdisk. it only lets me make primary and extended partitions automatic id , then I can change the id. I need p 82 linux and e 83 swap right?
[05:05] <genii> Yup
[05:05] <zerothis> how do i do that??
[05:06] <genii> t           then type in the partition number (1-4). Then type in the description number (82 or 83   etc)
[05:07] <genii> zerothis: You can use    p       after to check the changes
[05:08] <genii> zerothis: You can have 4 primary partitions
[05:14] <genii> zerothis: I'm not sure where you're currently at.  But the idea in fdisk is: delete whatever partitions existed previously. Then to make two partitions, one for system and one for swap. You can specify size of a partition in Mb or Gb by putting for instance M or G after a number when it asks for size. (else it goes to cylinders or such)
[05:14] <genii> zerothis: Then to make the one type 82 and swap type 83. Then to  use    w    to write the changes and exit. After that shold be able to format it
[05:15] <genii> !ping
[05:15] <zerothis> eh, to complicated I'm just gonna make one big primary partition to get rid of windows then try the guided partitioning again. when in doubt blame windows. I'd bet 10 thousand dollars that once windows is go it works.
[05:15] <zerothis> ha, windows is gone and it worked!
[05:16] <genii> Good :)
[05:16] <zerothis> thanks, i've been away from linux too long. I forgot about fdisk
[05:50] <DarkriftX> how do i set a program to auto run on startup?
[05:50] <DarkriftX> gkrellm for example
[05:50] <favro> !autostart
[05:51] <DarkriftX> ty
[05:53] <ahmos> hi, i've installed ffmpegthumbnailer ,but i still can't see video thumbnails
[05:53] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[05:53] <Linux_Galore> hmm kde 4.2 video on youboob
[05:54] <FuriousGeorge> kubuntu has a weird problem with my usb->ps/2 adapter...  for some reason, it doesnt work until i hit a key like capslock on another keyboard, or unless i boot the computer with the adapter already plugged in
[05:54] <FuriousGeorge> hmm, maybe i just need to hit capslock on the adapter...  that would be good enough
[05:55] <ahmos> so any help plz
[05:59] <FuriousGeorge> so i verified:  either i boot up with the adapter plugged in, or i have to hit the capslock key on another keyboard in order for the ps/2 keyboard in use with my usb adapter to work
[05:59] <FuriousGeorge> this is only the case in kubuntu.  when i use gentoo it just works
[06:00] <DarkriftX> see what happens in dmesg when you hit capslock
[06:00] <FuriousGeorge> DarkriftX: good idea
[06:00] <DarkriftX> maybe you can reproduce that effect
[06:00] <DarkriftX> also see if its picked up in dmesg when you plug it in (without caps lock pressed)
[06:02] <FuriousGeorge> DarkriftX: nothing there
[06:02] <DarkriftX> that sucks
[06:03] <FuriousGeorge> DarkriftX: tell me about it...  im thinking this has something to do with the larger problem:   adapter doesnt work at all with kubuntu-ltsp, but im not by that server to test, so this is what im stuck with
[06:11] <FuriousGeorge> http://pastebin.ca/1217653  <---  thats the difference between dmesg on gentoo (works) and kubuntu (requires a reboot) when i plug in the adapter (p/2 -> usb)
[06:23] <tacosarecool> That was close
[06:24] <genii> tacosarecool: Survived restarting the desktop I see
[06:24] <tacosarecool> Yeah
[06:24] <tacosarecool> I had to do last boot
[06:24] <tacosarecool> then I had to do generic default
[06:24] <tacosarecool> Restart
[06:24] <tacosarecool> go to last boot
[06:24] <tacosarecool> But it's kde 4
[06:24] <tacosarecool> Now
[06:36] <tacosarecool> hello
[06:36] <tacosarecool> I need to get rid of kde 4
[06:36] <tacosarecool> I made a mistake
[06:43] <tacosarecool> Anyone?
[06:45] <tacosarecool> Anyone?!
[06:45] <tacosarecool> I need to get interprid off
[06:52] <tacosarecool> Help!
[06:53] <tacosarecool> Anyone?
[06:54] <Xubuntu> Bonjour a tous
[06:54] <tacosarecool> I need help
[06:56] <Xubuntu> help???
[06:56] <tacosarecool> You looking for help too
[06:57] <tacosarecool> Xubuntu
[06:57] <tacosarecool> Are you or not?
[06:57] <tacosarecool> Anyway my problem is I installed a developmental branch just to install a program
[07:01] <tacosarecool> Ok
[07:01] <tacosarecool> Brb
[07:06] <tacosarecool> Can someone help me?
[07:07] <tacosarecool> Anyone?!
[07:08] <tacosarecool> grr
[07:08] <tacosarecool> Someones got to respond
[07:10] <tacosarecool> I know your there people
[07:18] <frybye> Moin - just got a big update of kde4 stuff for 8.04 - anybody know a site with details of what has been updated etc?
[07:53] <frybye> so who has done the 8.10beta update?
[07:55] <mlabitad> anybody here?
[08:04] <Linux_Galore> me
[08:04] <Linux_Galore> I didnt update though
[08:04] <Linux_Galore> fresh install
[08:05] <Linux_Galore> kde 4 is far from finnished so I wouldnt bother
[08:09] <dave__> noob question
[08:10] <dave__> how do i shut off that when my cursor switches windows the focus switches
[08:10] <mlabitad> hi dave
[08:10] <dave__> hi
[08:14] <hosein-mec> which Office suite will be in Kubuntu 8.10 ? and also K3B 1.0.5 & Amarok 1.4.10 ??
[08:19] <Linux_Galore> OpenOffice 2.4
[08:19] <Jucato> 1. most likely OO.o 2. considering there has been no stable KDE 4 release for K3b or Amarok, most probably their KDE 3 versions
[08:19] <Jucato> (applies to KOffice as well)
[08:20] <Linux_Galore> can always update to the kde 4 version when it becomes stable
[08:21] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: I dont think kde 4 is going to be ready for Intrepid to be honest
[08:21] <hosein-mec> hope to include kde3 version of amarok & k3b , not same as kubuntu 8.04
[08:21] <stdin> Linux_Galore: KDE 3 is dead, it's not like we have much choice
[08:21] <Daisuke_Ido> Linux_Galore: what's the last version you used?
[08:21] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: Plasma isnt integrated with the apps yet
[08:21] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: too late for that. it's already the default
[08:21] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: "integrated with the apps"?
[08:22] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: doesnt even have drag and drop on the desktop yet
[08:22] <Daisuke_Ido> hosein-mec: the versions of amarok and k3b in 8.04 ARE the kde3 versions.
[08:22] <Jucato> O.o
[08:22]  * jussi01 reminds people that kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[08:22] <Daisuke_Ido> Linux_Galore: what version of kde4 did you use?
 Linux_Galore: what's the last version you used?
[08:22] <dave__> kubuntu is too gui
[08:22] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: drag an app from the menu to the desktop, doesnt work you have to do that from within konqueror etc
[08:22] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: wrong
[08:22] <jussi01> And offtopic discussion is in #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:23] <jussi01> :)
[08:23] <hosein-mec> Daisuke_Ido: no ! i mean in default ...
[08:23] <Jucato> but like what jussi01 said, #kubuntu-kde4  for KDE 4
[08:23] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: Im on intrepid
[08:23] <dave__> how do i shut off that my focus switches when i move my cursor out of the window
[08:23] <stdin> Linux_Galore: intrepid support in #ubuntu+1 ;)
[08:23] <dave__> ?
[08:23] <dave__> does anyone happen to know?
[08:23] <Linux_Galore> heh, Ive done better I asked the kde fold "it is broken and not finnished yet"
[08:24] <Linux_Galore> folk*
[08:24] <Daisuke_Ido> hosein-mec: what do you mean default
[08:24] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: because your example is not broken and finished :)
[08:24] <Daisuke_Ido> hosein-mec: because in kubuntu 8.04, the default is amarok and k3b's kde3 versions
[08:25] <hosein-mec> Daisuke_Ido: amarok & k3b there isnt in default installation of Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 REMIX
[08:25] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: you cant do basic drag and drop because the integration of plasma/desktop/menu's etc hasnt isnt finnished
[08:25] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: yes you can. since 4.0
[08:25] <Daisuke_Ido> that's because it's a strict kde4 release.
[08:25] <Jucato> er
[08:25] <t-devel> How to run DB2 in KUbuntu ????
[08:25] <dave__> fumball
[08:25] <Jucato> 4.1
[08:25] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: Im on 4.1 and it doesnt work and in the forums it also doesnt work
[08:25] <Jucato> dave__: System Settings -> Window Behavior -> Focus tab?
[08:26] <hosein-mec> Daisuke_Ido: will be include in 8.10 ?
[08:26] <Daisuke_Ido> should be
[08:26] <t-devel> DB2 is the database from IBM ... Can anybody help me out that how to run the DB2 in Kubuntu ...???
[08:26] <Daisuke_Ido> because the kde4 versions will not be ready
[08:26] <Jucato> dave__: check that you Focus Policy isn't  Focus Follows Mouse or something like that
[08:27] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: if that's how you believe it is, then I won't/can't spend my time convincing you otherwise
[08:27] <Daisuke_Ido> however, i doubt that amarok 2 will ever actually be "ready" - i'm really and truly convinced that the amarok dev team is purposely sabotaging amarok 2 by taking out every single thing that made it the best music app available and replacing it with monkey feces
[08:27] <Jucato> specially not in this channel
[08:28] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: drag and drop only works from within the file browser -> desktop
[08:28] <hosein-mec> i tested Adept 3.0 but it's so sketchy
[08:29] <hosein-mec> i dont see list of packages !! only Search function ?!?!
[08:45] <s0101> i jsut installed kubuntu with mce
[08:45] <s0101> but i dont get any signal from my setup box
[08:49] <s0101> anybody who knows about linux mce and setup boxes
[08:53] <eagles0513875> !mce
[09:08] <Linux_Galore> gah! @ mce
[09:10] <eagles0513875> lol Linux_Galore
[09:26] <Linux_Galore> mce is like a nice looking box then you open it and you realise its designed by an insane engineer who worked for freedom
[09:27] <Linux_Galore> so you nothing quite fits and you never seem to get the last screw to fit
[09:27] <Linux_Galore> s/you//
[09:28] <Linux_Galore> sorry swap freedom with Ikea  its an international room
[09:29] <KRABEN> hello
[09:29] <KRABEN> how to setting resolution pc?.
[09:31] <eagles0513875> KRABEN: whats ur native language
[09:31] <JackWinter> i had some problems with kde and konqueror, so i did a apt-get install kde.  must have messed something up, because no longer are menues opened by a mouseover, and the same with the k menu.  anyway i can get the old behaviour back ?  been looking through most system settings but still didn't find it..
[09:33] <Linux_Galore> KRABEN: installing you be doing with sudo apt-get install krandrtray then run you will with krandtray in termin you will
[09:34]  * Linux_Galore ducks
[09:34] <Linux_Galore> terminal*
[09:34] <Linux_Galore> !krandrtray
[09:35] <Linux_Galore> bah! humbug
[09:55] <mefisto__> !info krandrtray
[09:59] <mefisto__> I think krandrtray is part of kcontrol
[10:05] <sebastian__> hi, may somebody help me i downloaded kubuntu with kde4 and wanna go down to kde3 :-/
[10:06] <tollsta> how do i load normal icr servers in Konversation or view other channels?
[10:06] <sebastian__> ./join channel
[10:06] <tollsta> get list?
[10:06] <sebastian__> ./server ircserver
[10:07] <tollsta> in chat window?
[10:07] <sebastian__> yes
[10:07] <tollsta> ta
[10:07] <tollsta> ./server ircserver
[10:08] <sebastian__> without .
[10:09] <tollsta> name lookup fails
[10:10] <sebastian__> ircserver must be adress of a server
[10:10] <tollsta> ./list channel was command
[10:10] <sebastian__> like /server irc.quakenet.org
[10:11] <tollsta> cmon and im new to ubuntu
[10:12] <tollsta> f all channels on server, whats a good chat server?
[10:31] <adi> hi all
[10:32] <adi> what is the alternative app in kubuntu to manage mtp devices?
[10:32] <adi> amarok is not working for me in kubuntu while in ubuntu with gnome I have sucsessfully used gnomad2
[10:33] <adi> so maybe there is something similiar for kde?
[10:33] <adi> anyone any idea?
[10:34] <andypls1> is GTK# something like windows forms , but for linux?
[10:37] <Jucato> andypls1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gtk_Sharp and ask in #gtk perhaps
[10:37] <Jucato> (or if it's #gtk+)
[10:42] <adi> any alternative of gnomad2 for mtp devices for kde?
[10:43] <emilsedgh> adi: i think Amarok 1.4 works with those creative devices, take a look at amarok wiki on http://amarok.kde.org/wiki
[10:44] <adi> amarok does notork for me
[10:44] <adi> thats why im here
[10:45] <adi> it does not recognize the samsung yp k3 device which is a mtp device
[10:46] <emilsedgh> adi: hm, Amarok works good with mtp devices.btw my samsung yp p2 works nice (but as a ums, not mtp)
[10:47] <adi> how did you made that device a non proprietary one
[10:47] <adi> ?
[10:47] <adi> I hate mtp
[10:48] <adi> I have seen some how to's  around
[10:48] <WmBuRn> anyone have ati radeon hd 3650 graphic card?
[10:48] <emilsedgh> adi: yp p2 in asia is sold as a ums device
[10:48] <WmBuRn> to help me with drivers
[10:48] <adi> but none of those korean firmware works when I start samsung
[10:48] <emilsedgh> adi: you can get the ums firmwares, search on anythingbutipod forums
[10:49] <adi> exatcly
[10:49] <adi> I was there and the firmware that i downloaded could not install at all
[10:50] <adi> oh  you from asia and you bought it as a umts player ...right?
[10:50] <emilsedgh> adi: oh, then ask for more help on mtp on #amarok
[10:50] <emilsedgh> adi: i know amarok works good with mtp
[10:50] <JackWinter> i had some problems with kde and konqueror, so i did a apt-get install kde.  must have messed something up, because no longer are menues opened by a mouseover, and the same with the k menu.  anyway i can get the old behaviour back ?  been looking through most system settings but still didn't find it..
[10:50] <adi> ok
[10:50] <adi> thanks
[10:50] <emilsedgh> adi: yes, my device was ums when i bought it (iran)
[10:50] <adi> :)
[10:50] <frybye> using kubuntu 8.10beta - wont let me install the proprietary drivers for the nvidia grafic card?? says prop. drivers not used on this system??
[10:51] <emilsedgh> frybye: i think this is not the rightchannel on kubuntu 8.10 help, please take a look at #kubuntu+1
[10:51] <frybye> ok thanks...
[10:52] <frybye> emilsedgh: there does not seem to be such a #+!!
[10:52] <etfb> If I get a message about a linker not finding -lglib, what's the likely name of the package I should install?  Is there a naming standard?
[10:53] <emilsedgh> frybye: really? hm, so why i thought there is such channel?? i dont know.sorry for wrong help
[10:53] <frybye> np - there is a #kubuntu-kde4
[10:53] <emilsedgh> etfb: glib is so common, i think it will be installed if you install build-essentials.im not sure though
[10:54] <emilsedgh> etfb: libglib1.2-dev maybe?
[10:54] <stdin> emilsedgh: the channel is #ubuntu+1 not #kubuntu+1
[10:54] <etfb> emilsedgh: Ah!  That could be it.
[10:55] <sourcemaker> should I upgrade to 8.10 or do a fresh clean install?
[10:56] <liuzg> haha
[10:56] <liuzg> 有人么？
[10:56] <etfb> sourcemaker: Upgrading any operating system is an act of faith on par with bungee jumping or skydiving.  I never take the risk...
[10:57] <SkEmO> jau
[10:59] <JackWinter> sourcemaker: it's really nice to have /boot and /home on it's own partitions.  that in combination with a couple of 5-10gb partitions allow you very easily to install a new system, and still have your existing system around
[10:59] <sourcemaker> JackWinter: well... I am using cryptoLUKS.... so I think this way is not possible :-)
[11:00] <JackWinter> sourcemaker: hehe, no ide what that is :)
[11:00] <sourcemaker> JackWinter: whole filesystem encryption...
[11:07] <pvandewy1gaerde> i downloaded the dekstop cd, but i cannot upgrade with it it seems, i want to create a alternate using a jigdo file,   how many files/ MBs do those cds have incommon
[11:12] <JackWinter> anyone know why i would be refused access so a subdir on a win/osx dvd rom ?
[11:12] <JackWinter> i can see it as root
[11:13] <JackWinter> i suppose it has something to do with access rights..
[11:13] <pvandewy1gaerde> is there a umask active ?
[11:13] <JackWinter> what is that ?
[11:13] <pvandewy1gaerde> sort of default permissions
[11:14] <pvandewy1gaerde> what do you see when you ls -al the dvd
[11:14] <JackWinter> it says that it is group:user 501:501
[11:17] <pvandewy1gaerde> for the content of the dvd ?
[11:17] <JackWinter> yes.  the / is root:root, all the rest is 501:501.  the funny thing is that i can run a program in the root of it (install prg), but it can't access any subdirs
[11:20] <JackWinter> here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/1217853
[11:20] <JackWinter> looks really funky, but it's really meant for w32/osx, but i'm trying to get it going in wine
[11:31] <etfb> I need to know which package contains a certain file.  Is there some sort of apt search command that will tell me?
[11:33] <jussi01> !info apt-file | etfb
[11:38] <etfb> jussi01: Thanks - that's exactly what I needed.
[11:38] <jussi01> :)
[11:44] <unclean> hey whats the package to get KDE?
[11:45] <unclean> or hould i say command
[11:47] <gm04030276> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[11:55] <gaetano> ciao a tutti
[11:55] <Tanazzo> ciao a tutti
[11:58] <Rioting_pacifist> carefull when using aptitude i think that by defualt it brings alot of other stuff in aswell
[12:01] <Rioting_pacifist> how do i debug my suspend resume failing
[12:07] <JackWinter> hmm a quick question.  for some reason my system is slowly going down the drain.  i have a problem with kded using alot of cpu, now i regularly get errors in konqueror.  by trying to reinstall kde with apt-get install kde, i managed to lose some nice ui features which i can't get back to working.  my fstab is no longer correct after having installed xp and osx, i think fsck is giving an error on a filesystem.  so i'm coming to the conclusion that i might
[12:07] <JackWinter> be better off taking the windows route of wiping the kubuntu partition and reinstalling from scratch.  I have /home on a seperate partition.  any pitfalls i should be aware of ?  does Kontact keep anything in /var ?
[12:09] <favro> I would boot the live cd and run e2fsck -a
[12:10] <JackWinter> favro: does that check all the filesystems ?
[12:10] <Rioting_pacifist> JackWinter: im not sure, your kde problems might be caused by your /.kde which means reinstalling could not help
[12:10] <favro> that's what the -a is for
[12:11] <JackWinter> Rioting_pacifist: i could delete ~/.kde before reinstalling.  alternatively can i delete .kde and relogin ?
[12:12] <favro> that would be a good first option
[12:12] <Tanazzo> lst
[12:12] <Tanazzo> list
[12:12] <Rioting_pacifist> mv .kde .kde2
[12:12] <Tanazzo> ! list
[12:12] <Rioting_pacifist> deleting kde will loose all your kde settings and emails storred there
[12:12] <Rioting_pacifist> s/loose/lose
[12:14] <JackWinter> aha, so ~/.kde contains all my emails from kmail/kontact ?
[12:17] <tacosarecool> hello
[12:18] <JackWinter> ok, gonna start with e2fsck -a, and then do a dd to copy the entire system partition to another partition,  just in case :)
[12:18] <tacosarecool> JackWineter
[12:18] <JackWinter> bye, wish me luck :)
[12:18] <tacosarecool> bye good luck
[12:19] <tacosarecool> Darnit I installed a devolopment branch just to get a piece of software so then it installed kde4 and now I'm doomed cause I can't get 3 back
[12:21] <JackWinter> i hear that kde 4.1 is pretty usable ?
[12:21] <tacosarecool> I hate 4 I like 3 in 4 the menus are fat
[12:24] <ahox> tacosarecool: what do you mean with fat menues? The Program menue - this is oxygen, you can always change it to say plastic
[12:24] <JackWinter> i like 3 too. intrepid is not far away :)
[12:25] <tacosarecool> Ah I added inteprid then it installed kde 4
[12:25] <tacosarecool> darn it
[12:25] <ahox> I switched with 4.1.1, this is IMHO usable
[12:25] <ahox> thought, 3.5 still is a tack more stable
[12:26]  * geek kinda wonders how an update will go.. will it replace everything KDE3 with 4 or what?
[12:26] <JackWinter> afaik, it will be kde4
[12:26] <ahox> geek: currently it installs parallel to kde3.5 and it will also get its own home directory in .kde4
[12:27] <tacosarecool> In kde4 I don't like the way the top looks
[12:27] <geek> ahox: ooh. does that mean it won't show both kde3 and 4 apps in kmenu?
[12:27] <tacosarecool> It will
[12:27] <ahox> geek: It will
[12:27] <tacosarecool> Probably
[12:29] <JackWinter> argh, i really don't wanna reinstall my system...  maybe i'll just try to fix my probs one by one.  but no idea what to do with the kded racing problem, and new konqueror error msgs
[12:30] <afd___> hi guys! I've installed Intreprid and I'd like to have kde 3.5 running as well (as I'm not comfortable yet with kde 4.1). Is there a way to get it installed? I've searched through synaptic, enabled unsuported repository, but I couldn't get it to show up (except kdelibs 3.5.9)
[12:31] <geek> ahox / tacosarecool erf. honestly i find that a wee bit annoying having two of everything ;p
[12:31] <Tanazzo> list
[12:31] <Tanazzo> ! list
[12:32] <tacosarecool> I don't even kubuntu4-desktop installed and yet I have kde4
[12:32] <ahox> geek: Repetition helps retention :P
[12:33] <geek> ahox: lol
[12:37] <MrKennie> afd___: for intrepid you should head to #ubuntu+1 and I afaik, there will be no official kde3 desktop in intrepid. It's moving on like everything else.
[12:38] <afd___> you'll pry kde 3.5 from my cold dead hands...
[12:38] <MrKennie> afd___: then stick with hardy
[12:38] <afd___> ok, thanks for letting me know about the plans...
[12:38] <tacosarecool> How do I remove intrepid
[12:39] <stdin> tacosarecool: you format and reinstall hardy
[12:40] <tacosarecool> Awe how do I remove ubuntu safely
[12:40] <tacosarecool> from the boot
[12:40] <tacosarecool> I mean kubuntu
[12:41] <stdin> to what, another Linux distro, Windows?
[12:41] <tacosarecool> no
[12:41] <tacosarecool> I'm dual booting
[12:41] <tacosarecool> currently
[12:41] <stdin> dual booting with what?
[12:41] <Pici> And you want to single boot to your other OS and get rid of *ubuntu?
[12:42] <tacosarecool> I'll reinstall ubuntu
[12:42] <tacosarecool> Of course
[12:42] <tacosarecool> kubuntu
[12:42] <MrKennie> tacosarecool: if you reinstall it will reinstall grub anyway
[12:42] <tacosarecool> I know
[12:42] <stdin> why are you dual booting ubuntu and kubuntu?
[12:42] <tacosarecool> But I wanna partition with acronis disk director
[12:43] <tacosarecool> I'm not
[12:43] <tacosarecool> I'm dual booting windows and kubuntu
[12:43] <JackWinter> anyone care to have a look at my fsck.log: http://pastebin.ca/1217888  I take that the first error msgs is because i reinstalled xp, and that the uuid in fstab is from the old xp partition.  what worries me more is the fsck died with exit status 1. /sda8 is my home partition...
[12:43] <Pici> tacosarecool: Can you rephrase your question in a sentence or two? I think we're all confused here.
[12:43] <tacosarecool> How do I remove kubuntu safetly from the boot menu
[12:44] <JackWinter> tacosarecool: which boot menu ?  grub ?
[12:44] <tacosarecool> yeah
[12:45] <JackWinter> you'll find the boot entries in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:45] <stdin> JackWinter: change the UUID in /etc/fstab to the current one reported by "blkid -c /dev/null" (may or may not need sudo)
[12:46] <moza> bonjour à tous
[12:46] <Rioting_pacifist> how do i debug my suspend/resume failing
[12:46] <moza> sorry in english here : "hello all"
[12:46] <stdin> tacosarecool: if you want to reinstall kubuntu then just install again as normal
[12:48] <tacosarecool> I said I wanted to partition with acronis so I wanna get rid of the old partition
[12:48] <tacosarecool> in windows
[12:50] <Rioting_pacifist> tacosarecool: if your looking to remove kubuntu then you need to use windows tools, i think you fix the mbr using fixmbr when using the xp install cd
[12:50] <tacosarecool> Can't I use easybcd
[12:52] <Rioting_pacifist> possibly the important thing is to make the mbr point to the windows bootmanager so that you dont see grub when you boot but the windows boot manager
[12:55] <JackWinter> stdin: does this fstab look ok ?  isn't there supposed to be a swap to ?  http://pastebin.ca/1217895
[12:57] <stdin> JackWinter: looks ok, there is usually a swap partition in there, but if "cat /proc/swaps" shows it then it's probably auto-detected
[12:59] <JackWinter> stdin: no, it's not there.  my swap partition was moved to sda9 when i repartitioned.
[13:00] <stdin> JackWinter: then add it's UUID or partition to fstab
[13:00] <stdin> "UUID=...  none  swap  sw  0  0"
[13:01] <JackWinter> stdin: there is also a hfs+ on sda3.  what is the syntax of the swap mount ?  please :)
[13:02] <stdin> the last line I posted is the swap line
[13:03] <moza> hello, is somebody able to help me to make the icons bigger in Konqueror "icon view"?
[13:04] <tacosarecool> Go to settings in konqueror views
[13:05] <moza> tacosarecool, ok, and then?
[13:05] <tacosarecool> then there's a icon tab
[13:05] <stdin> JackWinter: I think "UUID=... /media/sda3 hfsplus  uid=...,gid=... 0 0" is right for hsf+, but I've never used it so can't say. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions should help though
[13:05] <tacosarecool> You can change icon and preview size
[13:06] <tacosarecool> Or under details
[13:06] <moza> do i follow : settings>configure Konqueror ?
[13:07] <tacosarecool> Yeah
[13:07] <tacosarecool> The views will be under file management
[13:07] <moza> and then is it : "previews and meta-data"?
[13:07] <tacosarecool> Just views
[13:07] <moza> i don't see "views"
[13:08] <moza> can you write for me the whole "path" from "setting" to what you want me to go ?
[13:09] <tacosarecool> it's above previews
[13:09] <tacosarecool> Views
[13:10] <moza> settings>configure Konqueror>file management>views ?
[13:10] <tacosarecool> yes
[13:10] <tacosarecool> Then look in details tab
[13:10] <moza> i don't have file management
[13:10] <moza> just file associations
[13:10] <tacosarecool> oh
[13:12] <moza> behavior, appearance, previews&meta data, file associations, web behavior, and other non-related things (like java&javascript...) are what i have
[13:12] <moza> in settings>configure Konqueror
[13:12] <JackWinter> stdin: hmm, where do i find the uuid of the swap partition ?  blkid -c /dev/null has the following output: http://pastebin.ca/1217904
[13:12] <tacosarecool> IDK then
[13:12] <moza> idk?
[13:12] <tacosarecool> I don't know how can you be a linux user and not know that lol
[13:13] <moza> i'm just a beginner, sorry...
[13:13] <tacosarecool> That's ok
[13:13] <tacosarecool> Read the urban dictionary some
[13:13] <tacosarecool> That's the one thing school doesn't teach you slang
[13:14] <tacosarecool> Peer pressure teaches you slang and urban dictionary
[13:14] <MrKennie> I was beginning to worry that they did
[13:14] <moza> is IDK slang?
[13:14] <tacosarecool> Sorta internet slang
[13:14] <MrKennie> acronym?
[13:14] <tacosarecool> Maybe
[13:15] <MrKennie> anyway. this is a bit ot here.
[13:15] <moza> ah ok, maybe acronym for "i don't know"?
[13:15] <tacosarecool> look what I learned from urban dictionary Fud Acronym for "Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt.
[13:15] <jussi01> !ot
[13:16] <moza> ok, so it's weird that we don't have the same konqueror interface
[13:17] <tacosarecool> lol http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Blackberry+Jam
[13:18] <jussi01> tacosarecool: as the bot said previously, this channel is for Kubuntu support, please chat in #kubuntu-offtopic for general stuff
[13:19] <stdin> JackWinter: odd, has the partition been formatted yet?
[13:19] <JackWinter> stdin: hmm, don't know :)  if it's swap it has been formatted, no ?
[13:20] <stdin> I would guess that one that hasn't been formatted would not have a UUID
[13:20] <stdin> "blkid -c /dev/null" shows the UUID of my swap partition
[13:21] <stdin> JackWinter: you can try formatting it with the "mkswap" command
[13:21] <tacosarecool> sorry lol
[13:24] <tacosarecool> bye
[13:24] <eee> Hello!
[13:25] <mil> hi guys.  How do I find out what kernel and kde version is on my Kubuntu 3.5.x is?
[13:25] <JackWinter> stdin: :) not sure how i do that.  but i could run swapon from parted and it was mounted.  but still no uuid.  think i repartitioned the disk from the knoppix live cd if that has any bearing...
[13:25] <eee> anyone konw howto get wirless card activate it on my acer complication PC?
[13:26] <mil> ok I found out I'm on 3.5.9 desktop environment.  How do I upgrade to 3.5.10?
[13:26] <eee> the problem is that Linux dosnt support exe file's
[13:26] <eee> soo i can't use it
[13:26] <JackWinter> mil: for the kernel uname -r
[13:27] <eee> msg me if you got some one like this or now how to fix
[13:27] <stdin> JackWinter: just because you created the partition doesn't necessarily mean it was formatted. but if swapon works maybe it is. you can just put "/dev/sda9 none swap sw 0 0" in as the swap line
[13:27] <JackWinter> eee: i think there is something called ndiswrapper that allows you to use a windows wifi driver
[13:27] <stdin> mil: enable hardy-backports
[13:27] <anger_> eee you must to install the drivers of your wireless card if the system do not recognize it.
[13:27] <mil> jack: thanks. I type that on Konsole?  what's the exact line?  sudo -r??
[13:28] <afeijo> there is a better app to RDP rather than KRDC?
[13:28] <mil> stdin: thanks do I enable that in the repositories?
[13:29] <JackWinter> mil: at the command prompt "uname -r"
[13:29] <eee> oh i use Acer Aspire 5720Z
[13:29] <eee> if that is a problem
[13:29] <eee> can you get a driver pack to me? jack?
[13:29] <stdin> from Adept Manager, Adept -> Manage Repositories -> Updates (tab) -> Unsupported updates
[13:29] <eee> ok
[13:29] <mil> jack:  Thanks so much!  that did it!!!!
[13:30] <JackWinter> eee: nope you will have to google for that, i have no idea how, only that i've read it is possible..
[13:30] <stdin> !wifi
[13:30] <eee> tnx ubottu
[13:30] <eee> ok
[13:30] <eee> but where you read it? jack?
[13:32] <JackWinter> stdin: i formatted it again as swap from gparted, now it has a uuid :)  thanks for the help
[13:32] <stdin> :)
[13:33] <devo>   i have a problem.  when i put a movie to a disk the sound is alway's out of sync and i was woundering, what am i do'n wrong?
[13:33] <micro> need a little help with firefox.... when I import bookmarks to firefox, they are gone after restart
[13:34] <anger_> The bookmarks are in other partition?
[13:34] <JackWinter> ok, can i check fs  intergrity while they are mounted, or do i have to do that in single user mode or from the live cd ?
[13:35] <devo>  i'm using devede to encode avi to iso then i'm using both brasero and/or k3b to put it to a dvd, is there something that i'm do'n wrong to make it so that the sound is all crackily???
[13:36] <favro> JackWinter: they have to be unmounted - that's why I use the live cd
[13:36] <devo>  can anyone help me out???
[13:37] <micro> anger_: no they are on a partition where kubuntu is
[13:37] <anger_> devo, look to your codecs and see if they are fully updated
[13:38] <devo>  how can i tell if they r fully updated?  srry i'm still kinda of a noob when it come's to linux
[13:38] <devo> lol
[13:38] <devo> :-)
[13:38] <devo> lol
[13:38] <Rioting_pacifist> how do i debug my suspend resume failing
[13:38] <mil> stdin: thank you!!!!
[13:38] <JackWinter> favro: and e2fsck -a will find any problems i might have ?
[13:39] <anger_> try to rename the file or open it with an editor and "Save As" with a different name.
[13:39] <favro> JackWinter: it should - man e2fsck will give all the options available
[13:39] <JackWinter> devo: for codecs you might want to add mediabuntu to your repositories.
[13:39] <devo>  how do i do that?
[13:40] <anger_> devo, asroot, run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[13:40] <JackWinter> devo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[13:40] <anger_> Yes JackWinter, you're right. I forgot about that, sorry devo.
[13:41] <devo>  it's ok, just tell me how to add mediabuntu to my repositories?
[13:41] <JackWinter> devo: look for the good/bad/ugly packs for gstreamer
[13:41] <devo>  and then we can go from there on my problem that i do have and then hopefully u guy's and help me fix the problem  ;-)
[13:42] <JackWinter> devo: hehe, it's a few steps, read the link :)
[13:42] <anger_> Just edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:42] <etfb> JackWinter: I used to add medibuntu as the first step each time I installed a new Kubuntu, but I haven't needed it in Hardy.  Has something changed recently that made it less relevant?
[13:43] <JackWinter> etfb: don't know...  i came onboard in gutsy.  most things  work here with medibunty codecs installed.  no qt in sl though :)
[13:44] <Tanazzo> ! list
[13:47] <Nerian> Hi. I want to install Kubuntu with KDE 4. I undertand that currently KDE 4 is available only with Kubuntu KDE 4 remix community edition. The new release of Kubuntu, 8.10, is going to feature KDE 4. Mi doubt is, if I install Kubuntu KDE 4 community edition, is there anything I need to do once the new Kubuntu 8.10 is released?
[13:51] <devo>  how can i update through the terminal???
[13:51] <jussi01> devo: update or upgrade?
[13:52] <devo>  srry lol upgrade
[13:52] <devo> lol
[13:52] <jussi01> devo: ask in #ubuntu+1
[13:52] <devo>  i'm ask'n in here i don't wanna go anywhere else, srry to say
[13:53] <jussi01> devo: well its offtopic in here, so please head on over to #ubuntu+1
[13:53] <anger_> As root type this command in terminal: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[13:53] <devo>  why is it offtopic in here?
[13:54] <devo>  how do i longin as root to be able to do that?
[13:54] <bazhang> devo, is this for hardy or intrepid
[13:54] <devo>  like i said, i'm kinda a noob with it come's to linux still lol
[13:54] <Nerian> use "sudo"
[13:54] <bazhang> devo, what version number
[13:55] <stdin> !upgrade | devo
[13:55] <Nerian> sudo  "comands..."  will execute those commdans as root
[13:55] <devo>  thnx
[13:55] <devo>  oh ok
[13:56] <anger_> devo, type this command in terminal: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[13:56] <stdin> AndrewB: that's to update, not upgrade to another version
[13:57] <stdin> anger_: ^
[13:57] <stdin> AndrewB: not you :)
[13:57] <frybye> after kubutu8.1 install - no sound.. (there is no #kubuntu+1 - so thats why I ask here...)
[13:57] <devo>  i did then it tell's me this
[13:57] <devo> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[13:57] <devo> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[13:57] <stdin> frybye: I told you #ubuntu+1
[13:57] <frybye> and in #ubuntu+1 no responses...
[13:58] <stdin> well that's the intrepid support channel until it's released
[13:58] <frybye> stdin - perhaps a net split or...?
[13:58] <stdin> just wait around in there for a while
[13:58] <anger_> devo, is the Synaptic open?
[13:58] <frybye> kubuntu ppl say go to ubuntu and ubuntu say go to kubuntu when one has kubuntu- intrepid...
[13:58] <stdin> frybye: #ubuntu+1 is for *all*
[13:59] <bazhang> frybye, #ubuntu+1 is it
[13:59] <devo>  no but it will
[13:59] <frybye> ok baz-std
[13:59] <devo>  now it's open
[13:59] <stdin> devo: are you trying to upgrade to Hardy or Intrepid? or another?
[13:59] <micro> anger_ it didn't help to rename the file
[14:00] <devo>  i don't know which one i have, srry to say
[14:00] <bazhang> !version | devo
[14:00] <anger_> devo, If Synaptic is open, it lock the system to upgrade throught the terminal, so close it and try again.
[14:02] <Nerian> I want to install Kubuntu with KDE 4. I understand that currently KDE 4 is only available with Kubuntu KDE 4 remix community edition. The new release of Kubuntu, 8.10, is going to feature KDE 4. Mi doubt is, if I install Kubuntu KDE 4 community edition, is there anything I need to do once the new Kubuntu 8.10 is released?
[14:02] <devo>   why am i being marked as being away???
[14:03] <stdin> Nerian: the remix will upgrade cleanly to 8.10
[14:03] <Nerian> stdin: Thank you very much
[14:03] <devo>  how do i login as root???
[14:03] <Pici> !sudo | devo
[14:04] <bazhang> devo, you dont; use sudo
[14:04] <devo>  it wont let me upgrade if i'm not login as root
[14:04] <devo>  i did and still the same damn thing wtf
[14:04] <bazhang> devo use sudo
[14:04] <devo>  i did
[14:04] <devo> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[14:04] <devo> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[14:04] <devo>  that is what i keep on gett'n
[14:04] <devo>  wtf
[14:04] <bazhang> devo close all add/remove synaptic etc
[14:04] <stdin> what's the exact command you're running?
[14:04] <Nerian> Perhaps the update plugin is active?
[14:05] <devo>  sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[14:05] <favro> !aptfix
[14:05] <stdin> favro: it's not locked, it's just not being ran as root
[14:05] <devo>  is what i'm try'n to do and the damn computer wont let me wtf
[14:06] <bazhang> devo, please keep it family friendly
[14:06] <devo>  i am
[14:06] <favro> missed the second sudo...
[14:06] <devo>  where?
[14:06] <Maxa> sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:07] <bazhang> devo,  run that command
[14:08] <devo>  ok but how do i fix the other problem that i do have which is that everytime i put a avi to a dvd the video is fine the sound is crap, how do i fix that problem???
[14:08] <devo>  i did
[14:08] <bazhang> devo, which command
[14:08] <devo>  sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:09] <bazhang> no
[14:09] <bazhang> sudo apt-get update
[14:09] <devo>  ok fine
[14:09] <bazhang> then sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:09] <devo>  i did both of them
[14:10] <Maxa> and?
[14:10] <bazhang> no errors?
[14:10] <bazhang> now type lsb_release -a
[14:10] <devo>  that's rite it's do'n the upgrade now it will be done in about 5mins
[14:10] <bazhang> okay
[14:11] <Maxa> im doing the update too.. its going to take a while :/
[14:11] <devo>  but how do i fix the other problem that i'm have'n???
[14:11] <bazhang> when it is finished then do lsb_release -a devo
[14:11] <devo>  let me guess i type in lsb_release -a in the terminal, rite?
[14:12] <bazhang> devo, yes.
[14:12] <devo>  ok
[14:13] <bazhang> what app are you using to make a dvd devo
[14:13] <devo>  devede
[14:14] <devo>  then i put it to a disk useing k3b and/or brasero
[14:15] <devo>  i don't know what i'm do'n wrong for the sound to sound like crap when the movie is put to a dvd
[14:15] <bazhang> devo, what about playing it before you burn it; are there problems then
[14:16] <devo>  it's hardy
[14:16] <devo>  no there r no problems when i have the movie on my computer but it does start when i put it to a disk though
[14:16] <devo>  the version that i have is hardy for thoughs that wanted to know
[14:17] <marciomra> ola
[14:17] <devo>  what?
[14:17] <bazhang> !br | marciomra
[14:20] <devo>  bazhang: can u help me out or what?
[14:20] <bazhang> devo, after burning the avi to file but before burning to disk does it play okay
[14:21] <devo>  like i said the video is fine the sound is all crackily
[14:22] <bazhang> devo, after encoding the avi to dvd format?
[14:23] <devo>  that's rite
[14:38] <Authority> I have a number of keys that are recognized by xev, but I can't bind a keyboard shortcut to in KDE4 (8.10a6).  Any idea what's going on here?
[14:40] <Pici> Authority: 8.10 help/support is in #ubuntu+1
[14:41] <Authority> Pici: yeah, just saw that, thanks.  They're usually not much help though
[14:42] <Pici> Authority: The channel has become busier now that the beta has been released.
[14:42] <Authority> Pici: yes, but they tend to be more GNOME focused
[14:43] <Authority> at least in my experience
[14:43] <Pici> Authority: Even then #kubuntu-kde4 is the proper channel for KDE4 support.
[14:43] <Authority> Pici: roger that, thank you
[14:45] <qcontinueum> how do i join another channel?
[14:46] <qcontinueum> nvm, figured it out
[14:46] <geek> qcontinueum: /join
[14:46] <geek> lol
[14:46] <RurouniJones> at which point he closes the server connection...I am not convined he does have it ;)
[14:59] <peace> hello
[15:00] <peace> i instaled kubuntu 4kde.. should i add another user for browsing internet, watching videos and music? or the default is safe?
[15:01] <Pici> peace: The default user is fine.
[15:02] <Pici> !sudo | This may explain some things peace
[15:02] <peace> i was using ubuntu for a year, but im still not familiar with what is what :) ye thnx
[15:03] <Pici> peace: check out the site ubottu linked to.
[15:05] <peace> ok..now the serious question... i have ati and if i apply hardware drivers that are suggested to 3d..after restart i get black screen..so im just using 2d drivers..
[15:05] <nor> Hi, how can i check if my software- or hardware-mixing is currently activated? (alsa+pulse)
[15:08] <peace> which java you guys suggest to install for kubuntu kde4.. i remember i had some hard time a year before..with ubuntu gutsy choosing java..installing..uninstalling :)
[15:34] <pigreco> ci
[15:34] <pigreco> ao
[15:39] <eee> How to show wmn files
[15:39] <eee> wmv file?
[15:40] <pigreco> install xine
[15:40] <pigreco> from adept... :D
[15:40] <pigreco> it's very simple...
[15:41] <pigreco> install also codec
[15:41] <pigreco> with the same name of xine
[15:43] <alx54> hi evrybody! i have a small problem which probably can be solved in a sec: everytime i copy sth from my usb-hdd, konqueror(or dolphin) informs me that he's unable to change the mode (or "rights", im not sure about the term cause i use german version)of the copied files... this is really annoying and i cant find out how to turn it off! pllzzz help ;D
[15:45] <mc_> hi,
[15:45] <jonathan__> hello!
[15:46] <jonathan__> i've a question :)
[15:46] <mc_> hi. I have kubuntu 7.04 and want to upgrade to 7,10  I downloaded: kubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso.  How to upgrade now?
[15:46] <eee> love this chatt room
[15:46] <jonathan__> i want to convert a whole directory with wma files into mp3 files without losing quality and id tags... is that possibly (with ffmpeg)??
[15:47] <alx54> mc_ if you want to use the iso version you have to burn it to a cd
[15:47] <jonathan__> why 7.10? you know that 8.04 is already available in stable version?
[15:47] <geek> you WILL lose quality when you trancode between two lossy tracks
[15:47] <jonathan__> hm
[15:47] <jonathan__> ok, can i do it allthough?
[15:48] <Pici> jonathan__: You cannot upgrade with the desktop CD, only the alternate.  Although if you have an internet connection on that computer it will probably be easier.
[15:48] <mc_> i need this version for mce
[15:48] <Pici> !upgrade | jonathan__ to follow these steps
[15:48] <jonathan__> without losing id tags because it would be very hard to reenter all track datas to over 30 files
[15:48] <jonathan__> i dont want to upgrade!
[15:48] <jonathan__> say it to mc!
[15:49] <alx54> geek, Pici, eee ... does somebody know how to solve my prob?
[15:49] <alx54> everytime i copy sth from my usb-hdd, konqueror(or dolphin) informs me that he's unable to change the mode (or "rights", im not sure about the term cause i use german version)of the copied files... this is really annoying and i cant find out how to turn it off! pllzzz help ;D
[15:50] <jonathan__> what about the conversion from wma to mp3?
[15:50] <Pici> jonathan__: whoops.
[15:50] <alx54> jonathan__ i used transKode script for amarok
[15:50] <Pici> mc_: You cannot upgrade with the desktop CD, only the alternate.  Although if you have an internet connection on that computer it will probably be easier.
[15:50] <alx54> works pretty good, and tags stay
[15:50] <sorush20> hi
[15:50] <Pici> !upgrade | mc_ to follow these steps
[15:51] <Pici> jonathan__: all those underscores confused me.
[15:51] <sorush20> just wanted to say I love kubuntu but how to I setup proxy. I have pac file I need to detect
[15:51] <jonathan__> no problem :)
[15:51] <mc_> I already found thos notes, but the program "Update manager" is not in the menu
[15:51] <jonathan__> thanks a lot :)
[15:52] <sorush20> my clock is not updateing automatically..
[15:52] <sorush20> help
[15:52] <mc_> can I start the update manager from the command prompt?
[15:53] <moza_idle> mc_ i found "add/remove" package manager under the category "system" in all applications
[15:53] <geek> alx54: what filesystems/
[15:53] <geek> ?
[15:54] <alx54> geek i thought the fs on the usbdrive doesnt matter since it is connected via usb, am i wrong?
[15:54] <colomar> Hi. Just upgraded kubuntu from hardy to intrepid beta und now I have the 'Could not start kstartupconfig4. Check your installation'-Problem. Does anyone know what to do?
[15:54] <geek> alx54: it might. what FS?
[15:55] <geek> if its a linux one, you might wanna try chmodding the files with the appropriate permissions...
[15:55] <alx54> eerm, not too shure, probably ntfs (it was used by windows-user before)
[15:56] <geek> dosen't NTFS3G ignore windows permissions? >_>
[15:56] <alx54> mount gives me
[15:56] <alx54> this /dev/sdd1 on /media/STUFF type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blks                                                           ize=4096)
[15:58] <alx54> geek the point is that i just dont want to see the info-popup...
[16:00] <alx54> @geek since i dont care about permissions (if knew how to, i'd set all files to be owned by me... except system files of course)
[16:03] <sorush20> dsfgh
[16:04] <geek> alx54: sudo chown -R username /path/to/toplevel - this will change ownershop of ALL files and folders below the toplevel one to you
[16:06] <alx54> @geek but this isnt dangerous is it? as i understood it, the whole permission-stuff is for security reasons so that programs cant do what they want with whatever files they find right?
[16:08] <wiehan> what is the best way to create flash animations on linux?
[16:10] <alx54> @geek weird, konsole tells me that there is something missing after the path!?
[16:10] <miltone> salut à tous
[16:11] <Denise> missing after the path??
[16:11] <jussi01> !fr | miltone
[16:16] <geek> alx54: wierd. i've done it a LOT. the command should be right ;p
[16:17] <daajack> hello
[16:17] <daajack> good bye
[16:17] <alx54> sudo chown -R $alx /media/dasX/
[16:17] <alx54> chown: fehlender Operand nach „/media/dasX/“
[16:17] <alx54> this is what it says, cant help it
[16:17] <sorush20> hi apt-get update willnot work
[16:17] <sorush20> any help
[16:17] <sorush20> I'm behind a proxy
[16:18] <sorush20> authenticated.
[16:19] <eagles0513875> !info ldap
[16:23] <sorush20> anyone here behind a university firewall and proxy?
[16:23] <sorush20> I don't even know what to search for on google
[16:33] <vasy> hi pls help me to get my wifi working in kubuntu intrepid alpha 6
[16:33] <jussi01> vasy: please ask in #ubuntu+1 :)
[16:33] <vasy> ok thankss jussi01
[16:34] <vasy> just one small clarrification.. is that everyone facing same problem
[16:34] <peace> hi.. i instaled few progams with adept installer about 1hour ago. first time it asked for password..now it dont..why?
[16:35] <jussi01> vasy: usually people in here will be running hardy, #ubuntu+1 is the place for intrepid atm
[16:35] <Teisei> peace: Did you run it as root or normal user ? (sudo vs. without)
[16:35] <vasy> cool.. sorry guyss
[16:35] <vasy> catch u later
[16:35] <Teisei> peace: It may even remember your password for some time
[16:37] <peace> teisei - i turn on pc..i login with default user( the one i choosed during install ) and then i loaded adept installer..it asked password so i entered it..thats it
[16:37] <peace> k..thnx
[16:43] <frybye> hi - i am installing java with apt-get and it has displayed a page of liscene text and i now have to enter the ok - how to do this?? I am jus sorta stuck at the page of text in the terminal...?
[16:44] <bazhang> frybye, tab then enter
[16:45] <ejavier> hi
[16:45] <ejavier> anybody from puerto rico?
[16:46] <ejavier> hellowww
[16:47] <Tanazzo> !list
[16:48] <eee> hello robot!
[16:48] <eee> !ubuttu
[16:48] <eee> ok
[16:48] <eee> it's you hehe
[16:48] <shhe> hi every body
[16:48] <eee> Hi
[16:48] <eee> what are you doing
[16:48] <eee> pøa
[16:48] <shhe> it is the first time for me here
[16:48] <eee> hehe
[16:49] <shhe> I am switching from windows
[16:49] <eee> this is a chat is you have problems whit you computer
[16:49] <eee> hm...
[16:49] <eee> i did the same
[16:49] <eee> in windows is there to much Virues
[16:49] <shhe> I know
[16:50] <eee> hm...
[16:50] <eee> i do to
[16:50] <shhe> by the way, can I use my yahoo messenger through linux?
[16:50] <Pici> This is actually just the support channel. Offtopic chatter in #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic.
[16:50] <Tanazzo> ciao a tutti
[16:50] <Pici> !it | Tanazzo
[16:50] <eee> Hello i'm the ultimate robot chater in #Kubuntu
[16:50] <eee> who wanna fuck me?
[16:51] <eee> lol
[16:51] <eee> youst kissing you dick
[16:51] <bazhang> eee no cursing
[16:51] <eee> exit
[16:51] <eee> ok
[16:51] <Tanazzo> ! list
[16:53] <nemo_> !list
[17:07] <peace> i still cant fix my problems with ati graphics
[17:14] <sc0tt_> ïðèâåò
[17:14] <sc0tt_> Íàðîä, ïîäñêàæèòå, ïîäêë ñìàðòôîí ÷åðåç usb, virtualbox âèäåë åãî, ïîñëå ïåðåçàãðóçêè íå âèäèò. Êàê áîðîòüñÿ?
[17:15] <Denise> what is that scriptures
[17:15] <peace> its english channel you mormon :)
[17:16] <kc8pxy> be nice.
[17:16] <Denise> what language is that
[17:16]  * kc8pxy represents that remark.
[17:16] <peace> i am :) i guess its russian or smth
[17:16] <sc0tt_> sorry :)
[17:16] <mefisto__> can vmware do directx in kubuntu?
[17:18] <moza> hello all... do somebody know if konqueror handles mounting/unmounting devices such as SD-cards?
[17:18] <kc8pxy> i'm trying to view a mms stream (.asf stream file)  how do i make that play in kubuntu?
[17:20] <peace> how to make ati drivers work fine? if i enable restriced drivers and restart, i get black screen :(
[17:21] <n3ksus> hey, does any1 know how to install the eyetoy cam module, or where to find it?
[17:27] <peace> does envy drivers fits for kubuntu also??
[17:27] <Pici> Yes.
[17:27] <Denise> ok
[17:28] <Denise> I see
[17:28] <Denise> sort of
[17:36] <anger_> !info
[17:37] <anger_> !info nick
[17:37] <anger_> !nick
[17:37] <anger_> !nickinfo
[17:40] <Novell> hi, does the 2.6.27-4-generic kernel include the patch to make the NVM read-only on e1000 cards ? and why doesn't my ethernet card on my X61s work with that kernel ?
[17:40] <Novell> (Kubuntu 8.10)
[17:41] <Denise> answer
[17:50] <JackWinter> i'm getting this error from konqueror lately: Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:  klauncher said: Unknown protocoll ".
[17:51] <JackWinter> running apt-get install kde did not help :)
[17:51] <Denise> apt-get install geisha
[17:51] <Vermux> I just installed 7.10
[17:52] <ninjafury> Hi. Interesting question: I've got 2 pc's setup, one's a server, one's a client. The client gets a shell from the server over ssh. How do I open programs in X on the server from the client? When I try 'open xxx', from the shell, it tries to open it on the clients X server.
[17:55] <afeijo> hi folks
[17:55] <afeijo> who use Kontact with eGroupware?
[18:00] <zer0o> does anyone use openoffice? i need to rotate text and dunno how to do it just to a part of the page, not all of it
[18:03] <peace> hii :) i installed compiz and i cant find anywhere to load it on kde 4
[18:04] <ghostcube> peace: isnt there enable desktop effects
[18:04] <ghostcube> if not try it with fusion-icon
[18:04] <peace> i did this - compiz -- replace
[18:04] <peace> then i got some kind error.. where allwindows are frozen :D
[18:04] <peace> so i did this..
[18:04] <peace> peace@peace:~$ kwin --replace
[18:04] <peace> X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
[18:04] <peace>   Major opcode: 20 (X_GetProperty)
[18:04] <peace>   Resource id:  0x480001e
[18:04] <peace> kwin(6879) KDecorationPlugins::loadPlugin: kwin : path  "/usr/lib/kde4/lib/kde4/kwin3_oxygen.so"  for  "kwin3_oxygen"
[18:05] <peace> thanx and sorry for spam
[18:05] <kc8pxy> i think i manged the install of a codec.  how do i remove it and re0install?(it was for kaffine
[18:07] <Denise> why the 3 in kwin3_oxygen?
[18:09] <ghostcube> peace: what grafic card is this
[18:10] <peace> ati agp 3850
[18:10] <ghostcube> so you running fglrx ?
[18:10] <peace> i instaled envy.. i guess it works im not sure.. dunno how to check
[18:10] <ghostcube> :|
[18:11] <peace> with restricted drivers i always get black screen.. :)
[18:11] <ghostcube> glxinfo | grep direct
[18:11] <afeijo> no egroupware here?
[18:11] <adv> i'm trying to connect to a wpa network after a fresh install and it can't connect. i'm entering the right pass
 glxinfo | grep direct -- this is for me ?
[18:12] <ghostcube> yes
[18:13] <peace> direct:rendering:yes..but still hm..
[18:13] <kc8pxy> !codec
[18:13] <ghostcube> peace: ok sudo apt-get install fusion-icon
[18:14] <peace> done.. and the main problem is that i cant move any windows anywhere.. :)
[18:15] <ghostcube> yeah hzave u installed emerald ?
[18:15] <peace> no
[18:15] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get install emerald compizconfig-settings-manager
[18:17] <afeijo> why emerald? I dont use it
[18:18] <ghostcube> cause it works :)
[18:19] <adv> the scroller in my bluetooth mouse doesn't work
[18:19] <adv> what can i do?
[18:19] <sfears_> i'm having major problems with the .config files in my home/username folder.. anyone know how to help me reinstall a couple of necessary config files
[18:20] <rickest> adv: probably add Option "ZAxisMapping" to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:20] <Dephisto> hi, is here any Czech?
[18:20] <rickest> !cz
[18:20] <Dephisto> ok
[18:20] <sfears_> i'd look up how to on google but when i type in an addressin konqueror it gives me a malformed url error
[18:21] <Dephisto> my question is, I have kubuntu, and I want turn on my pcmcia wifi card, because it does not do anything, after i put it in
[18:21] <Dephisto> the card's name is compex iWavePort WL11b+
[18:22] <Dephisto> does anybody here have any experiences with pcmcia cards?
[18:22] <rickest> Dephisto: I don't, sorry
[18:22] <Dephisto> never mind..
[18:24] <Dephisto> so many people and no one who could help?
[18:26] <rickest> Dephisto: might try #wireless, I don't know
[18:27] <Denise> what is the problem
[18:28] <Dephisto> pcmcia card, how to make it work
[18:28] <Dephisto> wifi card
[18:29] <Denise> iu tested it correctly?
[18:30] <Dephisto> ?
[18:30] <Dephisto> iu??
[18:32] <nixbox> are there some utilities in ubuntu which make it easier to get the latest kernel sources and compile them?
[18:43] <v6lur> nixbox: kernelcheck ?
[18:43] <v6lur> http://kcheck.sourceforge.net/
[18:50] <Heston> Hello, im trying to uninstall Konqueror but in adept, Konqueror is reported as not being installed
[18:51] <Agent_bob> sudo apt-get remove --purge konqueror*
[18:52] <Heston> Agent_bob, is this normal behaviour for adept though?
[18:52] <Agent_bob> i don't know, i think i have used adept one time.
[18:53] <Heston> any particular reason to not use it?
[18:54] <Agent_bob> yeah. cause i don't use a gui and adept is a gui app
[18:54] <Heston> well ok then...I meant in terms of functionality, like dependency support
[18:54] <Agent_bob> no
[18:55] <Heston> curious, if you dont use a DE, why idle in Kubuntu? :p
[18:56] <Agent_bob> the atmospheer ?
[18:56] <Heston> didnt realise there was one
[18:57] <smokeytheman> what does k in kde stand for?
[18:57] <Agent_bob> there surely is.   /j #debian and see...
[18:57] <Agent_bob> smokeytheman  it stands for    k
[18:57] <smokeytheman> is k a language?
[18:58] <Nakkel> If I do a upgrade to Intrepid thru update-manager, does this install KDE4 side by side with KDE3 or removes KDE3? Also how well do KDE4 progs munch my old KDE3 configs?
[18:58] <Heston> Agent_bob, your command wants to remove kubuntu-desktop*...probably not what i want
[18:58] <Agent_bob> Heston why not ?
[18:58] <Heston> well its obviously a meta package for a lot of over things
[18:59] <Heston> s/over/other
[18:59] <Agent_bob> and ?
[18:59] <Heston> im not saying I cant work around this, but I wouldnt be handing out that command to new comers
[19:00] <Agent_bob> Heston why not ?
[19:00] <Heston> Agent_bob, because its going to uninstall a lot more than just Konq
[19:00] <Agent_bob> i would not hesitate to tell anyone to   sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[19:00] <Agent_bob> or  *buntu-desktop   for that matter
[19:00] <Heston> i think you've missed the boat
[19:01] <Agent_bob> they are only meta packages,  the things they depend on are already installed.
[19:02] <smokeytheman> my bad, i thought de was development enviorment
[19:03] <Agent_bob> close,   s=development=desktop=
[19:04] <Heston> Nakkel, you might want to ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:05] <Nakkel> Heston: Roger that, ty.
[19:05] <unclean> hey this is the first time getting this message " Starting without Admin privledges"
[19:05] <PC18-Sala3-381> Hola
[19:05] <PC18-Sala3-381> son nuevo en esto por favor comprendanme
[19:06] <_2> !es
[19:07] <n3ksus> hello, i need help with setting up eyetoy webcam
[19:07] <n3ksus> v4l2: open /dev/video0: No such file or directory
[19:07] <n3ksus> v4l2: open /dev/video0: No such file or directory
[19:07] <n3ksus> v4l: open /dev/video0: No such file or directory
[19:07] <n3ksus> no grabber device available
[19:08] <n3ksus> what grabber do i use?
[19:08] <PC18-Sala3-381> muchas gracias
[19:08] <_2> si d nada
[19:08] <n3ksus> huh?
[19:09] <n3ksus> this is the english room right?
[19:09] <Heston> usually
[19:09] <ghostcube> he showed him es room :)
[19:09] <n3ksus> lol i was worried :p
[19:10] <ghostcube> its mostly mainroom-country
[19:10] <n3ksus> well with the webcam if u can help, i need a grabber for it, i have the eye toy webcam module installed....
[19:10] <ghostcube> so only -addons is not english most times
[19:10] <n3ksus> lol fair enough
[19:11] <ghostcube> no idea on eyetoy jave u checked uvc and gspca homepoage ?
[19:11]  * Agent_bob wonders what language that was
[19:12] <ghostcube> typo english
[19:12] <ghostcube> ^^
[19:12] <ghostcube> new version
[19:12] <Heston> i think ill fork the old version
[19:14] <ghostcube> old one is kave instead of jave :D
[19:15] <kleto> ciao a tt
[19:16] <kleto> !list
[19:16] <sfears_> can i use the live cd to format & reinstall ONLY the /home folder & boot up with an existing / and have everything work??
[19:16] <Agent_bob> of course
[19:17] <sfears_> was that of course to me Agent_bob ??
[19:17] <Agent_bob> sfears_ you can do anything you want, on /home from the live cd without affecting the system.   you will of course lose personal data of course.
[19:18] <Agent_bob> sfears_ you can also use the installed system and do the same things
[19:20] <chrisr> hi
[19:21] <chrisr> will kde 4 be standard in intrepid?
[19:21] <Agent_bob> chrisr yes
[19:21] <chrisr> thx
[19:21] <chrisr> can't wait :-)
[19:23] <unclean> How did my Ardy start "Without Admin Privledges" ???
[19:23] <unclean> hardy*
[19:23] <Agent_bob> unclean open a terminal and enter.   sudo echo boo
[19:24] <Agent_bob> if it boo's at you you have admin priv's if not then no.
[19:25] <gamesworld> Hello!!
[19:25] <unclean> LOL
[19:25] <unclean> boo
[19:25] <gamesworld> Quoi,  Wgat?
[19:25] <gamesworld> Who cans speak french?
[19:26] <gamesworld> Qui parle francais??
[19:26] <gamesworld> Nobody?
[19:27] <gamesworld>  Who is there????
[19:28] <gamesworld> Bye ;-(
[19:37] <rickest> !fr
[19:37] <Agent_bob> unclean so you can sudo   what's the issue ?
[19:39] <_2> genii comming or going ?
[19:41] <frybye> how to start compiz-fusion after install and config with ccsm....?
[19:43] <Mr_Pan> hi, do u know how to configure a Dazzle VCD 80   ?
[19:44] <unclean> agent_bob: It said I wasnt Admin. I think cause I had synaptic open and I restarted
[19:44] <unclean> but i  'sudo echo boo' put in my PW and it just said boo
[19:45] <Agent_bob> unclean i can't help what it said.   if that sudo test "boo'd" at you, you are "root jr."  i.e. full admin rights.   i have never seen a message about admin privs   so can't say why it did that.
[19:49] <mdr> What package is the kde 4 desktop.  Is it realistically usable?   How much disk space?   I'm guesing there's still kinks.
[19:49] <Pici> !kde4
[20:02] <ek> Pici: You using KDE-4.1.2 by chance?
[20:02] <Pici> ek: I'm not even using KDE 3.5
[20:02] <ek> Oh. Wait. I wasn't aware there was a #Kubuntu-KDE4 channel.
[20:02] <ek> Pici: Using KDE at all?
[20:02] <Pici> ek: Nope.
[20:03] <ek> Ah.
[20:03] <ek> What's your DE of choice?
[20:03] <Pici> Gnome :)
[20:03] <ek> Why in #Kubuntu then? Shizzles'n'grins?
[20:03] <Pici> But I help here with the rest of the non DE specific issues.
[20:03] <ek> Fair enough.
[20:03] <ek> I only use Linux at work. But, I help when I can.
[20:03] <afeijo> my smtp server isnt working! :(
[20:04] <ek> afeijo: What MTA are you using?
[20:04] <afeijo> postfix
[20:04] <ek> What errors is it giving?
[20:04] <afeijo> timeout
[20:06] <ek> afeijo: And you be a little more specific? Does your mail log say anything about why?
[20:10] <Agent_bob> hmm i guess i need some warez !     i don't seem to have a vbrun?00.dll for my wintindow system....
[20:11]  * Agent_bob searches special warez site 127.0.0.1 for the needed files...
[20:12] <afeijo> can I remove mail.log? it is too big, over 3mb
[20:13] <Agent_bob> afeijo you can   but rather than removing it you might want to just blank it.
[20:13] <Agent_bob> afeijo   : > file.to.blank
[20:14] <peace> anyone can guide how to install restricted drivers ati..if it causes black screen?
[20:14] <Agent_bob> afeijo that will allow daemons to continue logging there while removing the file will "bumb fuzzel" them
[20:15] <afeijo> Agent_bob: I like touch cmd ;)
[20:15] <afeijo> Agent_bob: I finally got dovecot to work, imap ruling!!
[20:15] <Agent_bob> afeijo doesn't blank a file tho
[20:16] <Agent_bob> and pardon my lag.
[20:24] <afeijo> ops, I did something wrong
[20:24] <Agent_bob> touch is in many ways the same as   : >> blah     while : > blah    is more like    rm blah ;touch blah    execpt that if anything is accessing blah, then deleting it will break the connection.  while blanking it wont.
[20:25] <afeijo> accessing my IMAP, show msg msgs until sep/25, from that date, I cant access it.  Shell keep telling me that I have msgs on /var/mail/feijo, but with mutt I dont see it
[20:28] <|-phreak-|> im here noob
[20:29] <|-phreak-|> ALICAN!
[20:30] <MarcC> should alsa be located in /sbin/alsa?
[20:32] <slow-motion> hi
[20:32] <MarcC> can you only uninstall compiled software if you still have the source code around?
[20:33] <|-phreak-|> laaaaan
[20:33] <bascule> MarcC: you need the build tree, the actual executables get created within that directory tree, so yes
[20:33] <MarcC> dang
[20:34] <afeijo> what do I need to install to use smtp with postfix?
[20:36] <Agent_bob> !info sendmail
[20:37] <Agent_bob> maybe ?
[20:38] <tzd> how do i change true type settings in kubuntu hardy please? Googling only takes me to "old obscure places ;P"
[20:39] <P5YCH00> hello
[20:39] <P5YCH00> neeed assistanmce
[20:39] <P5YCH00> hello
[20:39] <P5YCH00> anybody here
[20:40] <tzd> yes, chill and ask your question and someone will help you
[20:40] <P5YCH00> can't chill have error
[20:40] <Pici> !ask | P5YCH00
[20:40] <P5YCH00> i installed ubuntu
[20:40] <P5YCH00> i ran teriminal
[20:40] <P5YCH00> and ran CPAN
[20:40] <kc8pxy> ok,  for some reason, I have no sound in kaffine wheather i play a stream or a avi. i have yet to get any sound, but the mixer seems to be up.
[20:41] <P5YCH00> it asked me to confirm dirs
[20:41] <P5YCH00> i come across my warning message sying
[20:41] <P5YCH00> where is my lynx program
[20:41] <P5YCH00> >=|
[20:42] <P5YCH00> so
[20:42] <P5YCH00> how can i get neecesary files
[20:42] <P5YCH00> for CPAN
[20:42] <P5YCH00> like lynx or what not
[20:45] <P5YCH00> hello
[20:50] <Denise> yes
[20:57] <benbloom> 'lo
[20:58] <benbloom> making one last effort to avoid installing Wine
[20:58]  * benbloom whines
[20:58] <metehan> hi anyone can help me about compaq nx 7300 wireless firmware update for kubuntu !!
[21:05] <frybye> any tips on installing skype on 64bit 8.1 beta - on that channel no response so far...
[21:06] <peace> its easyy
[21:06] <peace> even i big noob managed
[21:06] <frybye> ok - g a
[21:06] <Heston> you download the package from skypes website
[21:06] <frybye> and then unpack and then crashes on start... or?
[21:06] <peace> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432295
[21:07] <peace> in this link paste this in terminal
[21:07] <peace> 8.10
[21:07] <peace> at least i did that and i have full normal skype
[21:07] <peace> after that.. write in terminal skype to load it and install normally
[21:08] <Caliendo> salut tt le monde
[21:08] <Caliendo> hi all
[21:08] <peace> hi
[21:12] <error> l
[21:13] <lulu> good evening i need help
[21:13] <lulu> i have problem whit my system
[21:14] <anger_> Hi lulu
[21:15] <lulu> i cant open programm and my terminal ist white after installing drive for graikcard
[21:15] <turnos> dffdfd
[21:16] <lulu> please help me
[21:16] <lulu> hi anger can you help me
[21:17] <lulu> sorrz my keyboard ist olso crasy
[21:18] <adv> how can i test my webcam?
[21:19] <favro> !webcam
[21:23] <ninjafury> Has anyone gotten Rhythmbox to work in kubuntu?
[21:24] <Heston> ninjafury, if you arent too attached to  Rhythmbox, i strongly recommend vlc
[21:25] <ninjafury> Heston: Can vlc read DAAP shares?
[21:25] <Heston> ninjafury, i believe so
[21:28] <ninjafury> Heston: I can't seem to read DAAP shares with vlc. Is there a plugin that I need to install?
[21:29] <Nyad> hello, I want to list the last files that were added to a directory, time stamps only show modification date so I dunno how to view the junk I accidentally moved to my home dir
[21:30] <Heston> ninjafury, im not sure, by default daap supported is supposed to be compiled in
[21:30] <ninjafury> hmm, can't seem to get it working, and googling for help isn't getting me anywhere
[21:31] <Heston> perhaps ask in the vlc channel
[21:33] <Heston> ninjafury, did you make sure to enable DAAP discovery in the Playlist window?
[21:34] <Heston> ninjafury, though to be fair, i dont see it myself
[21:35] <ninjafury> Heston: I enabled 'Bonjour services' from the playlist's 'Additional Sources' menu. But that doesnt help
[21:36] <Heston> ninjafury, I dont know what else to tell you then, sorry
[21:37] <ninjafury> Heston: Thanks anyway, will ask in vlc
[21:40] <sylenze> hello i have a question about wlan
[21:52] <benbloom> quit (rebooting)
[21:52] <sourcemaker> can I upgrade to kubuntu 8.10 using cryptoLUKS (whole encrypted file system) in hardy???
[21:54] <ubuntu> #ubuntu
[21:57] <cga> hi all, is amarok 2 going to be in kubuntu 8.10 ?
[21:57] <cga> or at least a repo for it?
[21:58] <favro> cga: the folks in #ubuntu+1 will know
[21:58] <Zombine> Anyone have trouble with their touchpad's vertical scroll taking up half the pad rather than just the edge
[22:02] <ubuntoil> !bot
[22:20] <peace> is here anyone who can help with ati drivers?:))
[22:20] <HollowPoint> that depends on the problem peace
[22:20] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[22:21] <peace> whole day im trying something.. :)
[22:21] <FuriousGeorge> i have a tale of two distros (gentoo and kubuntu), and how they are handling ps/2 and usb hardware
[22:21] <FuriousGeorge> my understanding is that ps/2 barcode scanners are just like keyboards
[22:21] <FuriousGeorge> when i plug it into my gentoo servers, they are
[22:22] <FuriousGeorge> for some reason, in kubuntu they only work if there is a ps/2 keyboard on the adapter that is built into the barcode scanners wire
[22:22] <peace> hollowpoint my xorg.conf is very empty and i cant enable restricted drivers, i get black screen.. :)
[22:23] <FuriousGeorge> iow, the barcode scanner (which is ps/2) has a built in adapter, for people using usb keyboards...  in kubuntu the scanner only 'works' when that adapter is in use
[22:23] <FuriousGeorge> also, i have a ps/2 -> usb adapter
[22:23] <FuriousGeorge> in gentoo, again, just works
[22:23] <HollowPoint> peace: what graphics card and version of kubuntu are you using?
[22:24] <FuriousGeorge> in kubuntu it will only work if I hook another keyboard up to the server, and hit a key like caps lock
[22:24] <peace> kubuntu 8.04 kde 4 64bit.. video card - ati 3850 agp
[22:24] <FuriousGeorge> and back to the scanner, it never actually works in kubuntu...  even when it scans, it doest return the value on the barcode
[22:25] <favro> FuriousGeorge: do they have diff kernel versions - kubuntu and gentoo?
[22:25] <HollowPoint> peace: you will find a lot of problems with the ati restricted drivers on an AGP card and 64bit Linux
[22:26] <HollowPoint> ati drivers for linux have never been all that good, nor that easy to install, and on a 64bit OS that just gets even harder, you're probably going to have to install the 32 bit drivers and just force them to accept the 32bit architecture, which although not too big of a problem for some other programs it's not what I'd recommend for graphics drivers
[22:26] <FuriousGeorge> favro: 2 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP on kubuntu and 2.6.24-gentoo-r8 #2 SMP on gentoo
[22:26] <peace> is it possible to make it work normally? or i should go for kubuntu 32bit 8.04 kde4 ?:)
[22:27] <HollowPoint> peace: you'll probably have more luck with ease of install in 32 bit linux for that card
[22:27] <peace> are there other linux user friendly as ubuntu with ati support?
[22:28] <HollowPoint> you won't find anything easier no
[22:28] <favro> FuriousGeorge: it's prob a config setting in the kernel - I say "prob"
[22:28] <HollowPoint> Ubuntu is by far the most user friendly distro and easiest to install proprietary drivers etc
[22:28] <peace> i see that.. :)
[22:29] <NickPresta> peace, check out OpenSuse if you like. It is very user friendly, albeit different in some aspects
[22:29] <peace> well i tried ubuntu gutsy a year ago..wasnt been able to install ati there too..
[22:29] <HollowPoint> give Mandriva a try though, that seems to be excellent at installing graphics/Xorg drivers without too much intervention
[22:30] <HollowPoint> OpenSuse is one of the most ridiculous distros ever IMHO, I'm a 3rd line I.T. engineer and specialise in Linux and I've never used something so set in it's ways and tied up, if you don't do it the SUSE way then you just can't do it. - This of course is only my opinion and should not be taken as fact.
[22:31] <peace> you mean opensuse is easy and flexible or i should go strickly by her to get what i want? - im not good at english :)
[22:31] <HollowPoint> OpenSUSE is NOT flexible nor easy lol
[22:32] <HNSZ> CAn I get an md5 hash for kubunut?
[22:32] <favro> !md5
[22:32] <HollowPoint> a lot of people use it but I personally think those who do use it fondly are not particularly good with any other Linux distro than SUSE
[22:33] <HNSZ> favro: Great thanks.
[22:33] <peace> so mandriva is a better choice to try? :)
[22:33] <NickPresta> HollowPoint, OpenSuse 11.0 is very easy. I don't know what problems you had...
[22:33] <HollowPoint> my personal opinion says yes
[22:34] <HollowPoint> NickPresta: it uses a version of KDE4 that just wasn't ready for release for a start, Yast is the most dire piece of programming I've ever seen, dropping to the command line for hacking has never been more difficult than in that distro and like I said before if you don't do it the SUSE way, then you just can't do it
[22:34] <NickPresta> HollowPoint, and for a newbie that knows no way of doing something, why is that a problem?
[22:34] <HollowPoint> after a couple of hours using SUSE and trying to like it I gave up and decided I just couldn't be bothered wasting my time, I could get further with a Gentoo command line installation in the same time period
[22:35] <Vermux> Ive just installed kubuntu 8.04. how do I install java and flash so I can surf the www with no problem?
[22:35] <NickPresta> HollowPoint, for a power user, sure, Yast is annoying. For someone that just started with Linux, Yast is familiar and helpful...
[22:35] <NickPresta> !flash | Vermux
[22:35] <HollowPoint> NickPresta: I personally don't recommend SUSE for beginners because it's just as bad as Microsoft at getting people to learn IT and nothing else about it, then they struggle to move on
[22:35] <NickPresta> !java > Vermux
[22:35] <peace> vermux go for firefox :) + kubuntu restricted extras
[22:36] <NickPresta> HollowPoint, I'm not here to argue whether or not it is best for a newbie to learn something from the ground up or not. I'm simply telling peace that he could give Suse a try and don't exclude it because other people tell him to
[22:36] <NickPresta> :)
[22:37] <peace> personally im a bit tired of choosing linux..so i wont give many different tries..
[22:37] <HollowPoint> think about this.....You're a brand new user who's never used Linux before, you think after a few days of using Yast you could move on to other Linux distros easily without starting to learn all over again? I say this because I know for sure that people can do exactly that from Ubuntu
[22:37] <peace> well..i guess i will go someday to my uncle pc - it has mandriva and ill try to look at it closely
[22:37] <NickPresta> peace, suit yourself. That is one of the perks of GNU+Linux; choice!
[22:37] <HollowPoint> yup
[22:38]  * HollowPoint seconds NickPresta's words
[22:38] <master_> I cannot get today's updates or use adept, because it says something else has the package database open already.. but nothing does..
[22:38] <NickPresta> I'm not personally suggesting *buntu or Suse, I'm just suggesting that you try everything you can since you _will_ find something you like
[22:38] <NickPresta> !aptfix | master_
[22:39] <peace> hollowpoint i totally agree with you... personally i used ubuntu for half year..and then after a while..again.. and i still dont know is it safe tostay in default user or i should create another one.. :D althoug i can install flash 32bit on 64bit distro..and so on..but..
[22:39] <peace> i like kubuntu kde but im stuck with ati drivers.. :)) just this
[22:40] <HollowPoint> Linux is a learning curve and it depends on how much you want to learn and how much time you have
[22:40] <peace> in ubuntu gutsy i had problems with sound and some other stuff..here i didnt got any
[22:40] <master_> NickPresta: I tried that, and it gave an error it says while processing: sun-java6-fonts
[22:40] <Vermux> peace: what is kubuntu restricted extras?
[22:40] <NickPresta> master_, in the terminal, sudo apt-get -f install
[22:40] <master_> NickPresta: That's the last thing I tried to install with adept, and adept crashed.
[22:40] <HollowPoint> I'm an I.T. engineer and I run an I.T. company so I don't have the luxury of just being a user :(
[22:40] <peace> master_ go kill process :) adept something..
[22:40] <peace> it helps.. :D
[22:40] <peace> i got this error with java also
[22:41] <peace> vermux in add/remove programs you write restricted... and you will be able to get those..
[22:41] <master_> NickPresta: last thing you told me is doing stuff.. on message it gave was:  dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `sun-java6-jre' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[22:42] <peace> hollow you have nvidia card?
[22:42] <HollowPoint> "sudo apt-get install firefox flashplugin-nonfree java" should install everything you need to run Firefox and get around the web without seing horrid non compatible errors
[22:42] <NickPresta> master_, tell me when it stops running and what the output is
[22:43] <HollowPoint> peace:  yes I have an older 7600GT PCi-X card, I'm re-builing my PC over the next few weeks so will be upgrading
[22:44] <master_> NickPresta: it stopped running and looks like it fixed the problem.. the last few lines look like this: No CIDSupplement specified for Dotum-Bold, defaulting to 0.
[22:44] <peace> in other channel im waiting for few guys who are good with ati.. although im not sure i will will catch them
[22:44] <master_> I can now go into adept
[22:44] <HollowPoint> I'm sure you can pick up an Nvidia AGP card somewhere peace, don't get me wrong I've just installed our company laptop with Kubuntu and ATi restricted drivers but it's 32bit Linux and not AGP
[22:44] <master_> but, my icon on the lower right for updates is now gone... so, how can i get those patches?
[22:44] <peace> just give me the guide you did and ill fix..i know its possible
[22:44] <NickPresta> master_, in a terminal: apt-get upgrade and then when its done, apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:46] <master_> NickPresta: thanks
[22:49] <HNSZ> !java | HNSZ
[22:49] <HNSZ> pipes, nice
[22:50] <NickPresta> HNSZ, redirection too
[23:02] <Rakko> Hi. I want to check out something that uses compiz or a similar eye-candy sort of window/compositing manager. Does Kubuntu have something comparable to compiz out of the box? (I know, lame, but I'm curious as to how it looks)
[23:03] <Rakko> (Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the impression that compiz is a GNOME thing)
[23:03] <HollowPoint> if you go to add/remove packages and type compiz you'll be able to select the compiz packages, check out #compiz for more or google "How to install compiz kubuntu" for a how to guide
[23:04] <Rakko> So KDE works with compiz?
[23:04] <HollowPoint> not at all Rakko you can use Compiz in KDE just as easily
[23:04] <Rakko> cool :)
[23:04] <Rakko> Does KDE still use kwin by default? Does it do compositing?
[23:05] <HollowPoint> KDE4 does have SOME compositing by default and yes KDE3.5.9 still uses Kwin
[23:05] <Rakko> What WM does KDE4 use?
[23:06] <NickPresta> Rakko, kwin4
[23:06] <HollowPoint> I believe it's an updated version of kwin but I haven't used it much so not sure, #KDE4 has more info
[23:06] <peace> rakko you like gnome? :)
[23:06] <Rakko> no
[23:06] <Rakko> ok
[23:07] <NickPresta> kwin does some transparency stuff
[23:07] <NickPresta> KDE4 has a lot of sexy stuff ;)
[23:07] <tacosarecool> Hey nick is there a way to downgrade from kde4
[23:07] <Rakko> I mean GNOME is ok but I've always prefered KDE
[23:07] <Rakko> Is KDE4 stable yet?
[23:07] <tacosarecool> I sorta installed intrepid didn't know it was a development branch
[23:07] <Rakko> I tried a beta back in May but it was buggy
[23:07] <jussi01> !ot
[23:08] <HollowPoint> KDE4.1 is stable Rakko but it just isn't as configurable as 3.5.9 yet
[23:08] <NickPresta> Rakko, KDE 4.1.1 is fairly stable. I'm using it everyday and I've yet to have a problem. #kubuntu-kde4 can give you more specific support
[23:08] <jussi01> also, kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4
[23:08] <Rakko> yay
[23:08] <NickPresta> jussi01, :)
[23:08] <Rakko> thanks
[23:08] <peace> im trying to make it stable :D but its hard..
[23:08] <tacosarecool> But I'm sorta in the middle I want to downgrade to kde3
[23:09] <jussi01> tacosarecool: its less than a month till intrepid fully comes out
[23:09] <tacosarecool> Officially?
[23:09] <HollowPoint> I installed the beta in a VM yesterday and have to say I was impressed
[23:10] <jussi01> tacosarecool: officially, yes
[23:11] <tacosarecool> Will it use kde4 only?
[23:11] <jussi01> yes
[23:11] <HollowPoint> by default it uses kde4 yes
[23:11] <HollowPoint> I would imagine that will be a way to install kde 3.x.x though? anyone know different?
[23:11] <jussi01> HollowPoint: Id suggest asking in #ubuntu+1
[23:12] <HollowPoint> lol not interested enough to go ask jussi01
[23:12] <HollowPoint> I'll probably do a direct upgrade from this 64bit 8.04 system anyway so no doubt I'll be able to keep my kde3.5.9 in place as an option
[23:13] <tacosarecool> Oh okj
[23:13] <tacosarecool> So
[23:13] <tacosarecool> It's ok to have it
[23:13] <tacosarecool> I have multiple entry's though
[23:13] <peace> how to get xorg configured correctly? :)
[23:14] <peace> nevermind :)
[23:15] <HollowPoint> you sorted it peace?
[23:15] <peace> haha i log out and i wasnt been able to get back..so i had to restart pc.. i cant complete installing ati because my xorg is too empty..it doesnt have lines and maybe something more..
[23:16] <peace> still there is another method so i can try that one now :D
[23:16] <peace> it will be 5th guide :)
[23:16] <HollowPoint> I still think 32 bit Kubuntu or Mandriva would be a better idea than 64 bit but sounds like you're having fun working this out :D
[23:17] <peace> im quite interesting person.. :D
[23:17] <HollowPoint> lol
[23:17] <peace> i depend on how i feel :D
[23:17] <peace> i had pretty sux days before.. :)
[23:26] <makaveli> mn