[02:58] <PRGUY85> hey anyone here?
[03:05] <dashua> http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot_4.1222999461.png
[03:05] <dashua> Breathe looking very nice :)
[03:05] <dashua> I just need to get this damn flash working on 64 Ibex.
[03:05] <dashua> Nice work.
[03:42] <PRGUY85> seeing as how thorwill created those countdown to launch day banners
[03:43] <PRGUY85> would it be safe to assume that the latest wallpaper is final?
[08:27] <kwwii> Cimi: right, new engine and theme packages coming in the next days (I've been sick)
[10:36] <xivulon> Hi all, I need to replace the artwork in http://www.wubi-installer.org/
[10:37] <xivulon> in particular the beautiful heron has to go and be replaced by an ibex.
[10:38] <xivulon> is there some official "ibex" to use for the purpose
[10:38] <xivulon> circle of friends and such will do too. Suggestions welcome
[10:39] <thorwil> hi xivulon
[10:39] <xivulon> hi :)
[10:42] <thorwil> hmm
[10:43] <thorwil> some people remain critical of using the codename animal
[10:44] <xivulon> I am open to suggestions
[10:44] <andreasn> didn't Rico Sta. Cruz do a cool Ibex?
[10:44] <thorwil> yes. i will hunt for the link
[10:44] <xivulon> If you have some more abstract idea for the website feel free
[10:45] <thorwil> xivulon: i could offer an SVG for the ibex shape found at the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/IntrepidCountdownBanners?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=tw_intrepid_countdown_06_spiral.png
[10:45] <xivulon> Someone also suggested me to change the website colorscheme, as the red might turn people off
[10:45] <xivulon> Being associated to "warnings"
[10:46] <xivulon> There too if you have proposals I'll be happy to switch
[10:46] <thorwil> xivulon: http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8062/bareos1.png
[10:47] <thorwil> meant to have a non-white background, though
[10:48] <xivulon> that's a beautiful one, but the white background might be an issue (in theory it just need css changes, but I am not good in generating dark color schemes)
[10:49] <xivulon> Someone also commented that the Heron was not appropriate since it was associated to the desktop of Gnome, while Wubi also provides Xubuntu and Kubuntu
[10:50] <thorwil> xivulon: as i already have lots of stuff on my list, i can offer to take this to our mailing list
[10:50] <xivulon> sure
[10:51] <thorwil> xivulon: so in short you are looking for a replacement for the heron and you're open for everything there.
[10:51] <xivulon> if someone wants to play with the overall design, the css is http://www.wubi-installer.org/wubi.css and the images are in http://www.wubi-installer.org/images/
[10:52] <xivulon> thorwil: correct, I do need to change the heron and if one once to take one or two steps further and revamp the website design with some cool ideas, why not?
[10:53] <thorwil> xivulon: the only really notable occurence of red i see is in the logo
[10:53] <xivulon> Horizontal lines and checkmarks also are in red
[10:54] <xivulon> I must say I really like the spiral
[10:54] <xivulon> the one made of circles
[10:54] <xivulon> 1) for mathematical reasons, 2) because it reminds of debian
[10:55] <thorwil> thanks! the association with debian is not intentional, though
[10:55] <xivulon> And on the other side horns have a peculiar meaning in Italy...
[10:55] <thorwil> xivulon: seems it's already up: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/countdown
[10:55] <xivulon> So I'am probably more inclined to use the abstract graphics :)
[10:56] <thorwil> xivulon: you mean having been cheated on?
[10:57] <thorwil> as in girl slept with another man?
[10:57] <xivulon> heh yeah that is the meaning
[10:57] <thorwil> xivulon: it exists in german to :)
[10:58] <thorwil> s/to/too/
[10:58] <xivulon> the (short) spiral of course might be interpreted as a horn
[10:58] <xivulon> but 1 horn is cool...
[10:59] <xivulon> 2 horns not cool...
[10:59] <thorwil> well, i would hope the ibex will be seen as ibex ^^
[11:00] <thorwil> xivulon: i'd like to have your real name for the mail and an address for CC (excpet if you want to subscribe to the list). PM me if you so prefer
[11:01] <xivulon> agostino russo
[11:01] <xivulon> I am on gmail
[11:02] <xivulon> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ago
[11:07] <thorwil> xivulon: "Email:  No public address provided.", but what you have for Jabber appears to be an email adress at gmail?!
[11:08] <xivulon> agostino dot russo at gmail dot com
[11:08] <thorwil> ok, but it should be fixed on the LP site ;)
[11:09] <xivulon> done
[11:10] <thorwil> mail send with CC
[11:12] <thorwil> oh boy. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-wallpapers/+bug/276594
[11:13] <xivulon> thorwil: thanks a lot
[11:13] <thorwil> xivulon: np
[11:15] <xivulon> I for one like that wallpaper...
[11:19] <thorwil> xivulon: kwwii made it
[11:21] <thorwil> to me, it's sad that it is being criticized for daring to introduce even the most subtle hint of colors other than brown-red-orange
[12:46] <tuxice> hello
[12:46] <thorwil> hello tuxice
[12:46] <tuxice> hello
[12:46] <tuxice> whats with the theme for intrepid alpha & beta
[12:47] <tuxice> many users are complaining with usability
[12:47] <tuxice> there is a planned change for the final release correct?
[12:47] <thorwil> not that i know
[12:48] <tuxice> that could be a problem
[12:48] <tuxice> have any wallpapers been selected?
[12:48] <tuxice> hello njpatel_
[12:49] <njpatel> tuxice: hey
[12:49] <njpatel> njpatel_: is my alterego using my laptop :-)
[12:49] <tuxice> oh
[12:49] <tuxice> weird.....
[12:50] <thorwil> tuxice: what has been selected is what you see in the beta. while the wallpaper could be replaced for the final release, i doubt it will
[12:50] <tuxice> ok, i shall take a look (havent seen the beta yet), is the theme the same as the alpha
[12:50] <tuxice> ?
[12:51] <thorwil> tuxice: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Njc1NA
[12:53] <tuxice> ok, so basically its 8.04's theme with a new wallpaper?!?!?!? what happened to the readical new design?!?!?!?!?!?
[12:54] <thorwil> oh please, be careful with those ! and ?, because if you continue like that, we will soon have none of them left!
[12:55] <tuxice> i believe we should aim for this more
[12:55] <tuxice> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Clear_Intrepid
[12:55] <thorwil> tuxice: nothing. who said "radical", btw?
[12:56] <tuxice> forum members, and i believe i read it somewhere on a wiki page
[12:56] <thorwil> people on the forums often get stuff wrong or even make it up
[12:57] <tuxice> ok
[12:57] <tuxice> so basically it is what it is
[12:57] <thorwil> it is true that there were plans to have a new theme for hardy already, then it was decided that the LTS release as last of a serious should not introduce such changes
[12:58] <tuxice> and then i thought that was supposed to be postponed till intrepid
[12:58] <thorwil> i'm not even sure there was an outright promise to have the new theme in intrepid, but mybe there was
[12:58] <thorwil> but then only what either Mark Shutlleworth or the art director Kenneth Wimer said counts
[13:00] <tuxice> will these be the folders? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Intrepid_Ibex_Icons_-_Art_Team?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=pn_folder_overview.png
[13:00] <thorwil> no
[13:01] <thorwil> tuxice: you can forget about everything on the wiki there, excpet for the themes that are in kwwii's PPA
[13:01] <thorwil> tuxice: https://launchpad.net/~kwwii/+archive
[13:01] <tuxice> ok
[13:01] <tuxice> ill look
[13:04] <thorwil> tuxice: there are 2 projects within the ubuntu artwork community that should make us more productive. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/KyudoGuidelines
[13:04] <thorwil> tuxice: perhaps you could spread the word, if you want to help
[13:05] <tuxice> ok will do..
[13:05] <tuxice> everything on the wiki under GPL?
[13:05] <thorwil> nope
[13:06] <tuxice> how about this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Intrepid_Ibex_Icons_-_Art_Team?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=pn_folder_overview.png
[13:06] <tuxice> any licence anywhere
[13:06] <tuxice> i dont see one
[13:06] <thorwil> tuxice: for all i know, the wiki doesn't imply a license. some pages do have license notes
[13:07] <tuxice> ok
[13:07] <thorwil> if you see none, you may assume broad fair use rights
[13:07] <tuxice> ok
[13:07] <tuxice> thanks
[13:07] <tuxice> gonna make a theme
[13:07] <thorwil> np
[13:08] <thorwil> tuxice: what do you expect how long it takes to create a good theme?
[13:08] <tuxice> months, years
[13:08] <tuxice> but im also in the process of creating an os
[13:09] <thorwil> ok, i was worried you might underestimate the effort :)
[13:09] <tuxice> nope
[13:09] <tuxice> hey, can i help with the breathe icons?
[13:09] <thorwil> tuxice: you should consider to join one of the already running theme projects
[13:10] <tuxice> such as? NewHuman, Oxygen
[13:10] <thorwil> tuxice: sure, we need more people. but of course this depends on your skills.
[13:10] <thorwil> tuxice: Dust and the others you find in the PPA i linked
[13:12] <thorwil> tuxice: did you work on themes or icons before? do you have a portfolio / any work online you could show?
[13:13] <tuxice> thorwil: i do not have a portfollio, but i do do lots of graphic design
[13:13] <thorwil> tuxice: say hello to _MMA_, the man behind Breathe
[13:14] <tuxice> _MMA_ Hello, I like the concept of breathe
[13:17] <tuxice> So, i have to go now, i will be back though
[13:28] <_MMA_> Ouch. Bug 276594
[13:28] <thorwil> yeah, already had my fun with that report and a forum thread of eleven pages
[13:30] <_MMA_> 'Tis why I don't go to the forums anymore.
[13:33] <Nece228> no new theme :(
[13:35] <Nece228> i think at least they should make gradient, panel background and to change color pallete
[13:35] <thorwil> grrr. wordpress doesn't allow me to insert a <script> into a post. no live countdown banner for me. http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/countdown
[13:43] <Nece228> thorwil: what do you mean by "The theme teams are doing a good job now on a few community themes"
[13:47] <_MMA_> thorwil: I'm not gonna be around much today. Well, I might be on but not sitting here. I'll get back to anything I can when I see it.
[13:52] <thorwil> Nece228: https://launchpad.net/~kwwii/+archive
[14:07] <Nece228> thorwil: what engine i need for kin theme?
[14:09] <thorwil> Nece228: no idea, but if you use the PPA, the dependency should be taken care of already
[14:10] <Nece228> thorwil: ive installed community-themes_1.0_all.deb
[14:10] <thorwil> Nece228: if something with it doesn't work, you should report to kwwii
[14:11] <Nece228> thorwil: because i see only new borders, but gtk looks like raleigh
[14:14] <Nece228> thorwil: all these themes will be included in intrepid?
[14:15] <thorwil> Nece228: i'm not sure if the package will be installed by default, or just be offered in addition
[14:16] <Nece228> thorwil: ok, thanks for link :P
[14:20] <Nece228> omg ubuntuforums.org has new ubuntu logo on top
[14:31] <_MMA_> PM if needed.
[18:00] <rsc-> hai guise!
[20:40] <Mirv> thorwil: hi. our people are a bit too fast, and created already a version from the bitmap directly... it was now (a minute ago) put at http://www.ubuntu-fi.org/ - does that seem ok to you?
[20:40] <Mirv> thorwil: anyway, a big thanks for the work with counter
[20:55]  * thorwil looks
[20:57] <Mirv> there's now a link similar to ubuntu.com below the image
[20:58] <thorwil> Mirv: it's ok, although it lacks the care i invested in scaling the number and text for the best layout
[21:01] <thorwil> gotta run. good night!
[21:01] <Mirv> thorwil: right, ok. I'll ask if the person who did the hacking would like to take a look at the exact scaling/font used in the original
[22:04] <tuxice> Hello, again!
[22:07] <tuxice> Wallpaper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/BrownOrange_Wallpaper
[22:12] <PRGUY85> rsc- how are you?
[22:13] <tuxice> hello
[22:13] <tuxice> anybody like this wallpaper  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/BrownOrange_Wallpaper
[22:14] <PRGUY85> hmmm tuxice, I think it shouldn't have the logo
[22:14] <tuxice> ok
[22:14] <tuxice> anything else
[22:15] <PRGUY85> or the release name for that matter
[22:15] <tuxice> ok
[22:15] <PRGUY85> I would try to do bigger circles
[22:15] <PRGUY85> and a softer orange
[22:15] <tuxice> ok
[22:32] <tuxice> ok take another look
[22:38] <tuxice> anybody like these wallpapers  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/BrownOrange_Wallpaper
[23:33] <tuxice> anybody?
[23:34] <tuxice> qwertyuiop
[23:39] <rhkfin> Hi! Anyone know where to find ubuntu logo images with real people as a circle of friends?