[11:01] <amanulla> hii every one
[11:01] <persia> Hello amanulla
[11:01] <amanulla> hello
[11:02] <amanulla> i want to install and run java on ubuntu
[11:02] <amanulla> but im new to ubuntu
[11:02] <amanulla> how can i?
[11:04] <amanulla> HELLO ARE YOU THERE BUSY
[11:08] <persia> Just busy and distracted.  Sorry.
[11:08] <persia> Which version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[11:08] <amanulla> 8.04
[11:08] <persia> What do you want to do with Ubuntu?
[11:08] <amanulla> run java
[11:08] <persia> What do you want to do with Java.
[11:08] <amanulla> html
[11:09] <persia> So, run tomcat or something?
[11:09] <amanulla> yes
[11:09] <amanulla> im running tomcat on xp
[11:09] <persia> OK. Does apt-get install tomcat5.5 work for you?
[11:10] <amanulla> but i dont know how to find any
[11:10] <amanulla> netbeans,eclipse.........
[11:10] <amanulla> any ides
[11:10] <amanulla> here
[11:10] <amanulla> i just tried with this
[11:10] <amanulla> sudo apt-get install ecclipse
[11:10] <amanulla> in terminal
[11:10] <amanulla> but no use
[11:10] <amanulla> ok i will try now
[11:11] <amanulla> some error
[11:11] <amanulla> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:11] <persia> apt-get install netbeans should work.  If it doesn't, I'll be personally annoyed.
[11:11] <persia> Oh, something is broken in your apt-cache.  Run the suggested command.
[11:11] <amanulla> oh same error
[11:12] <amanulla> what can i do
[11:12] <persia> What error do you get from dpkg --configure -a ?
[11:13] <amanulla> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[11:13] <amanulla> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[11:13] <persia> OK.  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:14] <amanulla> i got some screen
[11:14] <amanulla> http://paste.ubuntu.com/53405/
[11:14] <amanulla> like above
[11:14] <persia> OK.  Answer the question.
[11:15] <amanulla> which one to select
[11:15] <amanulla>  install the package maintainer's version                      │
[11:15] <amanulla>   │           keep the local version currently installed                    │
[11:15] <amanulla>   │           show the differences between the versions                     │
[11:15] <amanulla>   │           show a side-by-side difference between the versions           │
[11:15] <amanulla>   │           start a new shell to examine the situation
[11:15] <persia> Dunno.  I usually install the package maintainer's version, but if you made changes, you might want one of the other choices.
[11:29] <amanulla> thank u im now installing tomcat
[11:30] <amanulla> but i dont know how to open it afetr installation can u
[11:32] <persia> No idea.  I know *lots* of work went into tomcat recently, but I haven't used it since 2001, so anything I might be able to remember is surely out of date.
[11:32] <persia> There should be some documentation in /usr/share/doc/tomcat5.5/ which might help.
[11:32] <amanulla> ok thank you
[11:33] <amanulla> for spending your time to help me
[11:33] <amanulla> have a nice day
[11:33] <amanulla> take care bye
[11:33] <persia> You too.
[13:23] <cfm> Hi, installing Java on 8.04 LTS Server.  Picked openjdk-6-jre-headless, but it wants to install all kind of extras including X11 and GTK.
[13:23] <cfm> Any way to avoid all this?
[13:32] <cfm> Ah, found sun-java5-jre package, which looks a lot nicer!  Any reason this package wasn't suggested by the system when I ran "java"?
[14:12] <persia> cfm: The recommendation is for openjdk because we can fix bugs.  the sun binary blob has some bugs that cannot be fixed.  With luck, you won't hit them.
[14:13] <persia> For Intrepid we've spent a lot of time trying to make -headless more -headless, but may not have succeeded entirely.  For 8.04, it's unfortunately bloated.  Sorry about that.
[14:19] <persia> slytherin: I didn't give back jhope (or whatever).  Just build-depending on sun-java5-jdk isn't enough, because the build-dependency on ant pulls in headless openjdk.  You'll need to find some way to advise the build which JDK to use.
[14:20] <slytherin> persia: Got it. Will do over weekend.
[14:21] <persia> slytherin: Great.  Poke me when you get it, and I'll try it, as I definitely have some time to focus on Java this weekend.
[14:23]  * robilad apologizes for missing the last meeting, on the road since yesterday until tomorrow
[14:24] <persia> robilad: No worries.  This close to release, there's not much we can do other than maybe get some plans together for jaunty, and publish some specs for discussion/approval.
[14:24] <persia> Unless you have some RC issue you want to raise?
[14:25] <robilad> nope
[14:26] <robilad> I'm loving intrepid so far ;)
[14:26] <persia> It's a bit of an improvement on the Java front :)
[14:27] <persia> For the next meeting, I think we should try to get some specs together for the server stuff.
[14:27] <persia> I know Koon pretty much finished the maven spec, and is seeking an approver.
[14:27] <persia> Is there anything else we want to do other then get more stuff free, and maven?  Surely something glassfish related.
[14:36] <robilad> good question - i think the next important bit would be the osgi support (felix)
[14:36] <persia> Right.  We'll need a bit of a roadmap to give to developers at UDS (in December), including a list of targets, and some specs to get completed.
[14:37] <persia> We'll want to have those drafted in the next 6 weeks or so, so if there's nothing RC outstanding for you, that's probably the best target.
[14:59] <robilad> ok, thanks
[15:01] <cfm> persia: Ah, that makes sense, thanks!  I'm going with sun for now purely because of those dependencies.
[15:02] <persia> cfm: Makes sense.  Depending on your use, you may be happy with the intrepid upgrade in another month or so.