[00:04] <Genelyk> source is void
[00:05] <Genelyk> The requested URL /xubuntu/releases/intrepid/beta/xubuntu-8.10-beta-desktop-i386.iso was not found on this server.
[00:05] <Genelyk> T_T
[00:06] <cody-somerville> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/intrepid/beta/xubuntu-8.10-beta-desktop-i386.iso
[00:07] <charlie-tca> They are updating the server, maybe
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[01:23] <Zerothis> I'm trying to use a USB drive to install ubuntu on another computer with no CD drive. I used UNebootin, Ubuntu, 8.04_Live. I think I wrote to the previously blank drive correctly (it shows 21 files/folders including "syslinux.cfg") but the other computer does not find a bootable image on the USB drive (I disabled all boot options except USB, still doesn't find it).
[01:33] <tonibuntu> guys, i'm trying to print a document ... when i do the print command, i get the normal window that asks how many copies, etc... the printer is showing as the default, and it is connected, on, and has paper and ink.
[01:34] <gaurdro> Zerothis, you're computer prolly can't boot from a usb drive or you haven't written a boot sector to your drive.
[01:35] <gaurdro> Zerothis, try method 2 here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[01:37] <ron_o> is it a good idea to always burn DAO? I do and have much better success with my burns, from data to iso's
[01:44] <tonibuntu> i've deleted the printer as default, and tried to add it new again, and the printers model, Dell AIO Photo 924 appears like its being detected, but when it searches for drivers, doesn't show a driver specific to this
[01:46] <favro> !cups
[01:46] <ubottu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:47] <tonibuntu> oh, my, theres alot of them
[01:47] <tonibuntu> lemme look, thanks favro
[01:47] <favro> np
[02:00] <Zerothis> gaurdro: never mind, i managed to get my device to recognise a CD-R/W drive on my USB-IDE cable.
[02:15] <tonibuntu> favro, on the hardware support page you sent me : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersDell  can you possibly look at it?  it is saying that the printer (Dell Photo AIO 924) is not supported and doesn't work on feisty, but i'm running hardy ... would you say that means we are still SOL with that printer?
[02:20] <favro> some can use the lexmard drivers for that apparently
[02:20] <favro> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714
[02:21] <favro> tonibuntu: ^^
[02:23] <tonibuntu> sry, i'm here, lemme look
[02:23] <tonibuntu> you mean lexmark, right?
[02:26] <favro> yep - that post on the forum says dell's printers are rebranded lexmarks
[02:27] <tonibuntu> favro, i'm looking at the long string of command line, should i copy/paste the whole thing into a terminal and then go back thru erasing the stuff to the right of the hash marks?
[02:28] <favro> Obviously, exclude the comments to the right of the hash (#) marks, I include them only to explain the commands it says
[02:28] <tonibuntu> favro, are you the author?
[02:28] <favro> nope
[02:29] <favro> try copying only the commands one at a time
[02:29] <tonibuntu> favro, i'm thinking the author should have provided the command string in a separate box without the explanation
[02:30] <favro> that would've made it easier :)
[02:30] <favro> bbiab
[02:30] <tonibuntu> normally, you could input the whole string and the terminal would handle them one by one right?
[02:36] <tonibuntu> is there anyone who could help me with the process described on page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714 ?  i'm not sure how to do the first step, which is downloading a specific driver (z600)
[02:43] <tonibuntu> process definitely not working for me .... arrrrrrggggghhhhhh
[02:49] <loonysalmon> Hi, I installed  xubuntu from alternate install cd.  Then i installed ati  proprietary driver from their website.  Then I did 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop' and now my graphics doesn't display right.  Is there some sort of way I can reconfigure it so that it works again?  It's saying low graphics mode.
[02:51] <IronJan> hi guys. i today installed hardy heron with xfce on my desktop pc. on this install i could switch between my desktops by simply moving my mouse to the sides of the screen. is this possible with xfce4 on gutsy too? i tried some options but i cant get it working
[03:01] <kaffer> trying to install nvidia driver on new install but i keep getting w: failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu....... 404 not found
[03:01] <kaffer> ok to dl driver from nvidia site?
[03:02] <kaffer> or is there another way to fix this porb
[03:02] <kaffer> prob*
[03:03] <charlie-tca> kaffer: You can download and install drivers from nvidia site. However, make sure you aren't mixing Xubuntu supplied
[03:04] <kaffer> what do u mean by mixing?
[03:04] <charlie-tca> and nVidia supplied drivers. You should find directions on nVidia's website
[03:04] <kaffer> yea i see the directions there
[03:04] <kaffer> so as long as i follow them i should be ok then?
[03:05] <charlie-tca> ;To the best of my knowledge
[03:05] <charlie-tca> You will still want to have the other issue working, but the servers are having problems today
[03:06] <kaffer> ok ty
[03:06] <charlie-tca> IronJan: Yes, it is possible in Gutsy, but I think you have to turn it on
[03:06] <kaffer> could that be y synaptic doesnt bring up "ntfs-config" ?
[03:07] <kaffer> see*
[03:07] <charlie-tca> I don't know ntfs-config
[03:08] <kaffer> gui for configuring ntfs drives
[03:08] <charlie-tca> IronJan: try Applications - Settings - Window Manager - Advanced - Wrap workspaces...
[03:08] <IronJan> charlie-tca: i tried (dont know exact english phrases, got german install) "change desktop .." "..when mouse pointer touches the side of the screen" and "..when a window is dragged out of view". but none of them is working.
[03:08] <kaffer> *ntfs
[03:08] <kaffer> !ntfs
[03:08] <ubottu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[03:09] <charlie-tca> kaffer: that should not affect nvidia settings
[03:09] <charlie-tca> tonibuntu: I'm sorry, I can't help you with that
[03:10] <kaffer> sry that was another topic
[03:10] <IronJan> charlie-tca: i tried your tipp, but it still isn't working :(
[03:10] <charlie-tca> IronJan: It should be the last tab under Window Manager.
[03:11] <kaffer> u said servers having probs, i was wondering iof that would have something to do w/ synaptic not seeing a package
[03:11] <charlie-tca> Give me a minute, I'll go look on gutsy
[03:12] <kaffer> hmm add/remove sees the package
[03:13] <IronJan> charlie-tca: could you wait a minute? i'll boot my desktop pc. then i can tell you which options did get that function working under hardy
[03:13] <charlie-tca> IronJan: I found it in the same place as in Hardy. Two lines and a slider.
[03:14] <charlie-tca> Go ahead
[03:14] <charlie-tca> kaffer: Yes, that's what I meant
[03:14] <IronJan> charlie-tca: these options are activated, but dont work
[03:15] <charlie-tca> sometimes you have to try a couple of times to get connected when they are busy.
[03:15] <charlie-tca> IronJan: Perhaps then a bug report is in order. Although it probably won't be fixed since Intrepid comes out the end of October
[03:16] <charlie-tca> kaffer: we released the intrepid beta cd's today, so things are pretty busy
[03:20] <kaffer> ok cool
[03:20] <kaffer> um tried to: sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-173.14.12-pkg2.run
[03:20] <kaffer> but i get sh: cant open ....... now
[03:21] <IronJa1> charlie-tca: now it's working partly. i can switch desktops by moving the mouse to the right/left side, but not up/down
[03:21] <IronJa1> (got 4virtual dekstops)
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[03:24] <charlie-tca> :)
[03:24]  * charlie-tca glad it works
[03:25] <IronJan> i would like to switch up and down too^^ switching in all 4 directions was the one thing, that fascinated me in hardy ;)
[03:26] <charlie-tca> I don't know if gutsy could ever do switching up and down. What about upgrading to Hardy?
[03:30] <kaffer> i get sh cant open file........
[03:30] <kaffer> how can i fix this?
[03:30] <IronJan> charlie-tca: i today got a new image of ubuntu hardy... then i sat some time on upgrading 150packages (my regular used programs wanted to be installed too). didnt like that very much. and this is my laptop for school and i dont have any cd-rs left to backup my stuff. i dont want to risk losing my data by upgrading ;)
[03:31] <charlie-tca> I know that one. I can't say I blame you for not upgrading then.
[03:32] <charlie-tca> kaffer: Is that to run a file?
[03:32] <kaffer> trying to get this laptop for school use :)
[03:32] <kaffer> yea
[03:33] <charlie-tca> Try sh filename; otherwise the shebang is missing.
[03:33] <kaffer> no .run at end?
[03:34] <kaffer> and i just dled it to desktop
[03:34] <kaffer> so shes there
[03:36] <charlie-tca> What kind of file is this? what is the filename?
[03:39] <charlie-tca> kaffer: what is the full file name?
[03:40] <kaffer> i think it was the wrong file
[03:40] <kaffer> dsry
[03:40] <kaffer> sry*
[03:40] <IronJan> oh. i know see that the versions of xfce are slightly different. gutsy got 4.4.1, hardy 4.4.2. could it be, that this function was added in 4.4.2?
[03:41] <charlie-tca> no problem; I can't keep up either
[03:41] <charlie-tca> IronJan: It's possible
[03:43] <Genelyk> ibex 4.6:D
[03:50] <IronJan> mmh gonna get some cd-rs from my brother.. then i'll go for hardy
[03:50] <IronJan> thanks for help
[03:53] <charlie-tca> You're welcome
[03:56] <kaffer> bbs ty charlie
[03:57] <charlie-tca> np :)
[04:13] <Kaffer> !ntfs
[04:13] <ubottu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[04:22] <Zerothis> I have an install problem, my IDE hard drive is ntfs. When I use manual or guided, I get the error "the ext3 file system creation is partition #1 of SCSI (0,0,0) (sda) failed". Using ubuntu 8.04_Live CD. The CD and HD are on the same cable, due to only 1 IDE connector on the MB.
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[04:27] <Kaffer> how do i remove recent docs from places menu on panel?
[04:28] <Kaffer> lol nvm
[04:28] <Kaffer> got it sone
[04:28] <Kaffer> gone*
[04:38] <coil> i wish i knew how to troubleshoot this freezing problem
[04:38] <coil> i leave for 10 mins and come back and my computer is frozen
[04:39] <coil> it did this yesterday too
[04:58] <PorkSoda> is there a way to configure synaptic to do a direct download of 8.04 upgrade
[04:59] <charlie-tca> !upgrade
[04:59] <ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:01] <PorkSoda> what does lts stand for
[05:02] <charlie-tca> long term support
[05:02] <charlie-tca> Normal releases are supported for 18 months, LTS is supported for 3 years
[05:04] <PorkSoda> charlie-tca: let me tell would I am trying to do: I have Xubuntu 6.06 LTS what I want is 8.04 is that possible and if so how do I avoid 322 updates for the 6.06 version?
[05:05] <charlie-tca> It is possible, but I don't know any way to avoid the updates. I did a fresh install and then moved the files in /home/charlie that I wanted
[05:06] <charlie-tca> take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades about half way down;
[05:07] <PorkSoda> well is there a way to get just critical security updates or just basically the necessities and cut the updates in half. Like for example I really don't need a new version of cupsys
[05:07] <charlie-tca> Upgrade from 6.06 LTS to 8.04 LTS
[05:08] <PorkSoda> Be sure that you have all updates applied to your current version of Ubuntu before you upgrade.  What does that statement mean
[05:09] <charlie-tca> It means make sure all the updates are current. In a terminal you can do "apt-get update" and then "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[05:09] <charlie-tca> That checks for updates and applies them.
[05:09] <PorkSoda> So I will still have to upgrade either way huh?
[05:09] <PorkSoda> download the updates
[05:10] <charlie-tca> I'm afraid so
[05:10] <PorkSoda> ouch!
[05:10] <Kaffer> so does that mean once new xubuntu comes out all i have to do is those 2 commands and im set?
[05:10] <charlie-tca> No, check the upgrade page and see what the procedure is
[05:11] <charlie-tca> Most of the time, we reference a page to read for upgrading
[05:11] <Kaffer> ok will do ty
[05:11] <PorkSoda> charlie are you from California?
[05:12] <charlie-tca> Kaffer: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:12] <charlie-tca> PorkSoda: no
[05:12] <PorkSoda> oh ok just wondering what the ca was for well thanks for the info
[05:13] <charlie-tca> It's tca for TeamCharliesAngels, my multiple sclerosis support team
[05:13] <PorkSoda> oh ok gotcha now
[05:13] <charlie-tca> Also teamcharliesangels.com, my website
[05:13] <PorkSoda> ok cool I'll check it out
[05:14] <charlie-tca> It's out of date, again.
[05:14] <PorkSoda> out of date?
[05:14] <PorkSoda> thanks again charlie
[05:14] <charlie-tca> Yea, I don't do so good keeping it up
[05:14] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[05:15] <PorkSoda> see u all later
[05:15] <charlie-tca> :)
[05:39] <Chainsinthewall> my built in sound card on my Shuttle AK32V mother does not get along with linux at all. what, if anything, can i do about this
[05:42] <travisbickkle86> anybody try the beta?
[06:01] <ron_o> upgrading.. wish me luck....
[06:01] <ron_o> didn't know I'd need 2GB of HDD space.
[06:03] <telephone> hey, can anyone recommend an app that can convert mov->mp4?
[06:35] <malek> Bonjour à tous
[06:45] <malek> J'ai installer xubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386 (cd d'installation) sous un vieux pc portable pentium 3 (700 GHz), 128mo ram, disc dur 20go. Je confirme que xubuntu est une des plus fiable et légers des distribution linux 2008 pour vieux pc ou neuf, Il tourne 4 fois plus vite que windows xp pro surtout avec un antivirus. Redonné un coups de jeune à vos vieux pc XUBUNTU 8.04.1 "choisir cd d'installation"
[06:45] <malek> MERCI XUBUNTU
[06:53] <loonysalmon> Hi, I installed  xubuntu from alternate install cd.  Then i installed ati  proprietary driver from their website.  Then I did 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop' and now my graphics doesn't display right.  Is there some sort of way I can reconfigure it so that it works again?  It's saying low graphics mode.
[07:18] <favro> !ati
[07:18] <ubottu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:22] <favro> loonysalmon: what does   lsmod | grep fglrx   return?
[08:34] <jade> can someone help ?
[08:35] <jade> am still confused about partitions
[09:19] <mnemoc> hi, I'm using "Intrepid" Xubuntu but when I log in it "chooses" to use 1024x768 instead of the marked-as-preferred-in-xrandr 1280x800, any hint? in #ubuntu+1 they said it's a DE issue
[09:19] <Myrtti> DE?
[09:20] <Myrtti> oh.
[09:20] <Myrtti> right
[09:20] <Myrtti> sorry, just woke up
[09:36] <mnemoc> desktop environment, not germany :p
[09:42] <mnemoc> configuration manager -> display, shows 1024x768, 800x600 and 640x480 ... ignoring the "preffered" 1280x800
[09:51] <mnemoc> doh, switching to 1024x768, accepting, and the back to "default" and logout solved the problem :)
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[11:21] <bassboi> BZZZ
[11:21] <bassboi> IM ON CRACK
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[13:32] <jarnos> How do you call to landline or GSM by Linphone?
[13:34] <Grey_Loki> Damn, i'm a day late for Xubuntu hug day :(
[13:36] <jarnos> jarnos: I figured the way to call already.
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[14:05] <cody-somerville> http://xubuntu.org/xubuntu-static/intrepid-countdown/index.html
[14:12] <loonysalmon> Hi, I installed  xubuntu from alternate install cd.  Then i installed ati  proprietary driver from their website.  Then I did 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop' and now my graphics doesn't display right.  Is there some sort of way I can reconfigure it so that it works again?  It's saying low graphics mode.
[14:12] <loonysalmon> favro: loonysalmon: what does   lsmod | grep fglrx   return?
[14:12] <loonysalmon> nothing
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[14:16] <DarkTan> i seem to have lost my menu bar and desktop bar, any idea how to get it back?
[14:16] <cody-somerville> loonysalmon, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[14:16] <loonysalmon> cody-somerville: thanks, am doing it righ now
[14:16] <cody-somerville> DarkTan, press alt+f2 and type xfce4-panel then hit enter
[14:16] <cody-somerville> loonysalmon, you should use the restricted driver manager to install those drivers
[14:17] <loonysalmon> use fb?
[14:17] <DarkTan> aha! there it is, thanks cody-somerville
[14:20] <loonysalmon> ahh, poop, i was closing out windows and accidentally closed out my dpkg-reconfigure terminal window
[14:20] <loonysalmon> now it's complaining about some locked file in /var/cache
[14:23] <loonysalmon> cody-somerville: got any suggestions for the locked file?
[14:25] <favro> !aptfix
[14:25] <ubottu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:25] <loonysalmon> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:25] <loonysalmon> middle click, fraggem daggem.  Love it and hate it :)
[14:26] <loonysalmon> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable   no fix yet
[14:28] <favro> if synaptic isn't open try a logout/in
[14:29] <verme> hi
[17:00] <Markopotamus> Hi peeps. Having a bit of a problem with xfce4 (think it is) right now... refuses to stay running
[17:01] <Markopotamus> it starts if I use 'sudo startxfce4' but closing the terminal closes the app. So no menu bars
[17:02] <knome> Markopotamus, are you talking about the panels or xfce4 now
[17:02] <vinnl> Markopotamus, is it just the panels that are not there?
[17:02] <vinnl> If so, press Alt+F2 and type "xfce4-panel"
[17:02] <Markopotamus> erm... knome, vinnl :: I'm not entirely sure. The pannels certainly arent there though.
[17:02] <vinnl> Markopotamus, and your wallpaper?
[17:03] <Markopotamus> dfce4-panel
[17:03] <Markopotamus> right
[17:03] <Markopotamus> *x
[17:03] <Markopotamus> oh yeah, that worked, thanks, vinnl
[17:03] <vinnl> No problem :)
[17:03]  * Markopotamus makes a note in case it happens again
[17:04] <vinnl> It's too bad it happens this often :(
[17:04] <Markopotamus> was confusing the fek out of me. Seemed very bizzare indeed.
[17:04] <Markopotamus> Incdentally, is there a command to clear the temp folder?
[17:05] <vinnl> "rm /tmp/*" I suppose
[17:05] <vinnl> Markopotamus, but it should empty it every shutdown
[17:06] <Markopotamus> oh right. Hmm. When I looked in the tmp folder there were a bunch of crossed folders that I couldn't do anything with - even open. Is that normal?
[17:06] <vinnl> Yeah
[17:06] <Markopotamus> vinnl: ah right. Ok, cheers.
[17:25] <IronJan> ChanServ:
[17:25] <IronJan> sry
[17:26] <knome> IronJan, ?
[17:26] <IronJan> i wanted to see if charlie_tec is online and used autocompletion.. but instead of backspace i hit return, sry
[17:26] <knome> k
[17:29] <zoredache> we will forgive you, this time.... :p
[17:29] <knome> aight
[17:41] <ron_> I tested my tar.gz archive. I need to know if it's safe to delete the old folder. The test came out pass.
[17:46] <zoredache> sorry?
[17:52] <venome> hi, i've got a decent problem: all the manuals to pulseaudio say I should add 'default-sample-channels = 6' to my /etc/pulse/daemon.conf ... but when I added it, then pulseaudio says that the newly added string is an unknown lvalue ... is there any other way?
[17:57] <cody-somerville> are you even using pulseaudio?
[17:57] <cody-somerville> Xubuntu doesn't by default
[18:04] <venome> yep, I run it manually
[18:05] <venome> it's strange but the configuration parser just does not accept the parameter, but I got it working by changing the alsa default device and the device pulseaudio uses ...
[20:31] <slow-motion> hi
[20:39] <knome> hello
[21:08] <venome> hi, does anyone know how to create a custom boot screen splash?
[21:13] <TheSheep> !usplash | venome
[21:13] <ubottu> venome: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[22:34] <thinkmassive> I'm experiencing a huge video performance hit after coming back from the screensaver sometimes, has anyone else witnessed this?
[22:35] <thinkmassive> I first noticed it with Flash animations running at about 1 fps, and I couldn't determine the cause
[22:36] <thinkmassive> a few minutes ago, I accidentally hit ctrl-alt-del, which sent me into screensaver, so I typed my password and when I got my session back it was extremely slow
[22:36] <thinkmassive> when I restart X, everything is back to normal, but that's a pretty major inconvenience sometimes
[22:36] <favro> does xscreensaver show in top?
[22:36] <E17> Hi, are any screensaver components run in the background?
[22:37] <thinkmassive> the screensaver process is not running after I get my desktop back
[22:37] <thinkmassive> X is usually taking up a fair amount of CPU
[22:37] <thinkmassive> E17, what do you mean?
[22:38] <thinkmassive> I had electric sheep a while ago, but removed it because I couldn't get it to work and it would run in the background
[22:38] <E17> I have noticed that there was sometimes Xlyap in the background... But probably  (don't remember) don't it hung, wasn't taking CPU.
[22:38] <thinkmassive> I don't see Xlyap in ps
[22:39] <thinkmassive> I'm using the binary nvidia driver, wonder if that's the culprit
[22:40] <E17> xlyap is one of the screensavers, maybe you have something other running; have you checked in top for process most utilising the cpu?
[22:40] <thinkmassive> it's weird because now the cpu and memory are at normal levels, but Flash still draws extremely slow
[22:40] <thinkmassive> the entire screen refreshes at only a couple fps
[22:41] <thinkmassive> restarting firefox doesn't help either
[22:42] <E17> "the entire screen"? Mean the Firefox browser, or ALL the screen?
[22:42] <favro> it's not a poor connection or busy site?
[22:43] <thinkmassive> E17, that's a good question, it's definitely the entire firefox window but I'm going to try watching a video to check
[22:43] <thinkmassive> favro, definitely not the site, it's all flash content and firefox window redraws in general
[22:43] <favro> k
[22:47] <thinkmassive> definitely just firefox
[22:47] <thinkmassive> so it's either firefox or flash, hard to say
[22:47] <favro> start it from terminal and look for errors maybe
[22:47] <thinkmassive> thanks for the help debugging, I'm heading to happy hour
[22:47] <favro> hehe
[22:48] <E17> I had to restart X... :-(
[22:48] <thinkmassive> ah, well I determined it's definitely either firefox or flash
[22:48] <thinkmassive> I'm going to happy hour now, thanks for the help E17
[22:48] <E17> Happy hour? WTF?
[22:49] <favro> happy hour = cheep beer at the pub :)
[22:50] <E17> :)