| * wgrant watches loggerhead's machine burst into flames. | 00:00 | |
| Tomcat_ | Anything wrong with LP at the moment? I'm not getting any pages any more. | 00:20 |
|---|---|---|
| Tomcat_ | Plus a lot of "try again" pages. | 00:20 |
| Tomcat_ | And the second I tell it to someone, it works again. ;) | 00:21 |
| Tomcat_ | And again... | 00:24 |
| kiko | Tomcat_, hmmm | 00:24 |
| kiko | Tomcat_, edge or no edge? | 00:24 |
| Tomcat_ | No edge. | 00:24 |
| kiko | Tomcat_, OOPS or no OOPS? | 00:24 |
| Tomcat_ | Needs minutes to send or receive any page. Although it was back to normal for a couple of minutes. | 00:24 |
| Tomcat_ | What's oops? | 00:24 |
| kiko | an OOPS code is triggered when launchpad times out or fails | 00:25 |
| kiko | it's rendered in the page | 00:25 |
| bdmurray | ubuntu bugs is timing out for me too | 00:25 |
| * wgrant is happy - edge is working fine. | 00:26 | |
| Tomcat_ | Oh, okay. Didn't see that currently. | 00:26 |
| Tomcat_ | Only need to close one more bug, then I'll go to bed anyway. :D | 00:26 |
| kiko | bdmurray, timing out where? | 00:26 |
| bdmurray | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu | 00:26 |
| Tomcat_ | "Try again" page again. | 00:28 |
| Tomcat_ | No oops. | 00:28 |
| kiko | bdmurray, with OOPS or no OOPS? | 00:28 |
| bdmurray | no OOPS | 00:28 |
| kiko | bdmurray, on edge? | 00:28 |
| bdmurray | kiko: no | 00:28 |
| kiko | grumble | 00:28 |
| kiko | bdmurray, Tomcat_: can I ask you guys try edge for now? | 00:29 |
| Tomcat_ | Sure. | 00:30 |
| kiko | nobody in #is is around | 00:30 |
| kiko | and I need to skip out | 00:30 |
| kiko | if something really bad happens | 00:30 |
| kiko | bdmurray, just ring me at 55 16 9112 6430 | 00:30 |
| kiko | thanks | 00:30 |
| bdmurray | what's really bad? | 00:31 |
| kiko | i.e. everything stops working completely | 00:32 |
| wgrant | Hmm, I was thinking we should have a LOSA around now, but of course it's Saturday. | 00:32 |
| bdmurray | kiko: got it ;) | 00:32 |
| kiko | yeah | 00:32 |
| * wgrant bans the usual working week division. | 00:32 | |
| kiko | saturday in australia :-/ | 00:32 |
| Tomcat_ | Thanks guys. | 00:33 |
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| wgrant | Grmph, now edge is timing out too. | 01:10 |
| Rinchen | is it now? | 01:15 |
| * Rinchen looks | 01:15 | |
| wgrant | Rinchen: As both prod and edge are being stupid, I presume the Postgres server is angry... | 01:16 |
| Rinchen | seems to be working for me at the moment :-) | 01:16 |
| Rinchen | or rather :-( | 01:16 |
| wgrant | Try https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu | 01:17 |
| wgrant | OOPS-1008EA5 | 01:17 |
| Rinchen | perfect | 01:17 |
| wgrant | (you can probably find loads of other oopses that are actually there, however) | 01:17 |
| wgrant | But I guess you can see the traceback anyway. | 01:17 |
| Rinchen | that oops isn't done baking yet so I can't see it. I'm trying to get one myself | 01:18 |
| Rinchen | lp devs get the traceback if we get an oops | 01:19 |
| Rinchen | so it's handy to diagnose things on the fly | 01:19 |
| wgrant | Rinchen: Right, that's what I meant by there would be some that were already visible. | 01:19 |
| Rinchen | let me get off edge and onto production | 01:20 |
| wgrant | Can you not reproduce on edge? | 01:20 |
| wgrant | Grr, it works for me now on edge. | 01:20 |
| Rinchen | no | 01:20 |
| Rinchen | ok your oops is done baking | 01:20 |
| wgrant | Only a couple of minutes until the OOPS is available, anyway... | 01:20 |
| * Rinchen reads. | 01:20 | |
| wgrant | Ah. | 01:21 |
| Rinchen | wow | 01:22 |
| Rinchen | yeah, that was a spectacular timeout | 01:22 |
| wgrant | Which query is borked? | 01:22 |
| Rinchen | it's not just one | 01:22 |
| wgrant | Ah, right. | 01:22 |
| Rinchen | 9 if I'm reading this correctly | 01:23 |
| Rinchen | which points to maybe something else awry | 01:23 |
| Rinchen | I'm going to poke our DBA | 01:24 |
| Rinchen | he's not awake yet but I'll leave him a message | 01:24 |
| wgrant | stub's in Thailand, isn't it? | 01:25 |
| wgrant | Er, isn't *he* | 01:25 |
| Rinchen | yes | 01:26 |
| Rinchen | 7:30am | 01:26 |
| Rinchen | ok, got him | 01:27 |
| wgrant | Excellent. | 01:27 |
| Rinchen | he'll be here in an hour or two to take a look | 01:27 |
| wgrant | Thanks. | 01:27 |
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| BUGabundo | is some one looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/183685 ? | 08:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 183685 in compiz-fusion-plugins-main "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Fix released] | 08:40 |
| BUGabundo | users are going crazy in there! | 08:40 |
| BUGabundo | lots of unsubcribe requests! | 08:40 |
| wgrant | Some of the users who complain that they have unsubscribed are clearly still directly subscribed. | 08:46 |
| Hobbsee | BUGabundo: it's a weekend... | 08:47 |
| wgrant | Hmm. | 08:47 |
| wgrant | I guess it's particularly unobvious how to unsubscribe from that bug, because there are lots of dupes. | 08:47 |
| Hobbsee | oh, classy. an autoresponder. | 08:48 |
| wgrant | It has stopped now, fortunately. | 08:48 |
| wgrant | I suspect that somebody should reorder those portlets. | 08:49 |
| * Hobbsee ponders subscribing the launchpad team so something gets done about the general issue | 08:50 | |
| BUGabundo | ehehehehe | 08:50 |
| BUGabundo | don't do that Hobbsee | 08:50 |
| BUGabundo | it would be crazy | 08:51 |
| Hobbsee | they've had bugs abotu this before, and haven't done anything about it. | 08:51 |
| Hobbsee | why? | 08:51 |
| Hobbsee | i'd just wonder if it would set off the autoresponder again | 08:51 |
| Hobbsee | although, i'd wonder why it just doesn't run a spam filter or something | 08:51 |
| BUGabundo | yeah spam filter on LP would be great | 08:53 |
| BUGabundo | or at least rules for auto-reply headers | 08:53 |
| wgrant | Or maybe people who write autoresponders should not be so stupid. | 08:54 |
| wgrant | There's little point autoresponding to the same address a dozen times. | 08:54 |
| BUGabundo | yes, that too | 08:54 |
| Hobbsee | BUGabundo: canonical has been traditionally less inclined to run antispam filters than I would expect - there's often a lot of spam (although they fixed some of it) on the mailing lists in the moderation queues, and a lot of spam from the @ubuntu.com addresses. | 08:55 |
| wgrant | I think that adding a spam filter would cause a larger problem than it solves. | 08:56 |
| wgrant | Spam on Launchpad isn't a huge problem (yet). | 08:56 |
| BUGabundo | Hobbsee: since all mailinglist seem to white-list all @ubuntu.com and @canonical I guess it is just waiting for trouble | 08:56 |
| wgrant | BUGabundo: On the lists I moderate there's an awful lot of spam, but I rarely see anything get through on a domain whitelist. | 08:57 |
| wgrant | (these are not lists.u.c lists, however) | 08:57 |
| Hobbsee | BUGabundo: sorry, *to* the @ubuntu.com addresses | 08:57 |
| Hobbsee | and not all of them - just most of the lists | 08:57 |
| BUGabundo | yes | 08:57 |
| BUGabundo | most list... I know | 08:58 |
| BUGabundo | it was easyer to write | 08:58 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 08:58 |
| Hobbsee | wgrant: that's true. I keep forgetting how shocking launchpad is at actually going through their moderation queue for launchpad users. I'd imagine moderated comments for the bugtracker to be much worse. | 08:58 |
| wgrant | Hobbsee: Regarding your complaint about the lack of spam filtering on our @ubuntu.com addresses, I don't want somebody in the middle of my mail path tampering with my mail, really. | 09:03 |
| Hobbsee | wgrant: that's true. But I'd still think there's a limit on that. | 09:04 |
| Hobbsee | wgrant: ie, certainly spam. maybe a spam score of >10 or something. | 09:04 |
| wgrant | Spam score is very, very subjective. | 09:05 |
| Hobbsee | that's true | 09:06 |
| Hobbsee | but i thought there was still a level of stuff to be known to be "certainly spam" | 09:06 |
| Hobbsee | although, i guess if you were actively attempting to buy viagra, or something, that wouldn't be spam. | 09:06 |
| wgrant | I can train my spam filter to give inverse results if I want to. | 09:06 |
| det | Is there any way to copy a package from one ppa to another ? | 09:15 |
| det | For example, I upload to my personal ppa for testing, then I upload to the project ppa to publish, any way to avoid waiting for the second build ? | 09:16 |
| wgrant | det: Hit "Copy packages" on the source PPA. | 09:17 |
| wgrant | You can then copy into any PPA that you can write to. | 09:17 |
| wgrant | Just watch out for dependencies. | 09:17 |
| det | Ahh, cool, thanks | 09:17 |
| det | I wonder why it always takes so long to show up in the pool, like 10 minutes after it is successfully built | 09:21 |
| wgrant | det: Packages are published every 20 minutes, as it's not an incredibly cheap operation. | 09:22 |
| wgrant | det: So you'll see new things show up at :00, :20, :40 | 09:22 |
| det | Ok, good to know, thanks. | 09:22 |
| det | Indeed, showed up at :20 | 09:22 |
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| \sh | hmmm... | 11:24 |
| \sh | launchpad-api: it's now possible to search inside a project/project-group/distro/milestone or so for bugtasks assigned/commented/subscribed to person objects...but how does someone search for bugtasks from a person perspective? seems like "has_bugs" is not related to a person object, right? | 11:25 |
| cprov | wgrant: you know, you are my hero. You answer all PPA questions! Thanks, dude. | 12:03 |
| wgrant | cprov: I don't entirely like seeing questions go unanswered, which they inevitably do otherwise... | 12:04 |
| * Hobbsee gives wgrant the crown of being the Resident Volunteer Question Answerer, and covers him in confetti | 12:05 | |
| * wgrant drowns in it. | 12:06 | |
| * wgrant curses GTK. | 12:06 | |
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