[00:00] * wgrant watches loggerhead's machine burst into flames. [00:20] Anything wrong with LP at the moment? I'm not getting any pages any more. [00:20] Plus a lot of "try again" pages. [00:21] And the second I tell it to someone, it works again. ;) [00:24] And again... [00:24] Tomcat_, hmmm [00:24] Tomcat_, edge or no edge? [00:24] No edge. [00:24] Tomcat_, OOPS or no OOPS? [00:24] Needs minutes to send or receive any page. Although it was back to normal for a couple of minutes. [00:24] What's oops? [00:25] an OOPS code is triggered when launchpad times out or fails [00:25] it's rendered in the page [00:25] ubuntu bugs is timing out for me too [00:26] * wgrant is happy - edge is working fine. [00:26] Oh, okay. Didn't see that currently. [00:26] Only need to close one more bug, then I'll go to bed anyway. :D [00:26] bdmurray, timing out where? [00:26] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu [00:28] "Try again" page again. [00:28] No oops. [00:28] bdmurray, with OOPS or no OOPS? [00:28] no OOPS [00:28] bdmurray, on edge? [00:28] kiko: no [00:28] grumble [00:29] bdmurray, Tomcat_: can I ask you guys try edge for now? [00:30] Sure. [00:30] nobody in #is is around [00:30] and I need to skip out [00:30] if something really bad happens [00:30] bdmurray, just ring me at 55 16 9112 6430 [00:30] thanks [00:31] what's really bad? [00:32] i.e. everything stops working completely [00:32] Hmm, I was thinking we should have a LOSA around now, but of course it's Saturday. [00:32] kiko: got it ;) [00:32] yeah [00:32] * wgrant bans the usual working week division. [00:32] saturday in australia :-/ [00:33] Thanks guys. === kiko is now known as kiko-afk [01:10] Grmph, now edge is timing out too. [01:15] is it now? [01:15] * Rinchen looks [01:16] Rinchen: As both prod and edge are being stupid, I presume the Postgres server is angry... [01:16] seems to be working for me at the moment :-) [01:16] or rather :-( [01:17] Try https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu [01:17] OOPS-1008EA5 [01:17] perfect [01:17] (you can probably find loads of other oopses that are actually there, however) [01:17] But I guess you can see the traceback anyway. [01:18] that oops isn't done baking yet so I can't see it. I'm trying to get one myself [01:19] lp devs get the traceback if we get an oops [01:19] so it's handy to diagnose things on the fly [01:19] Rinchen: Right, that's what I meant by there would be some that were already visible. [01:20] let me get off edge and onto production [01:20] Can you not reproduce on edge? [01:20] Grr, it works for me now on edge. [01:20] no [01:20] ok your oops is done baking [01:20] Only a couple of minutes until the OOPS is available, anyway... [01:20] * Rinchen reads. [01:21] Ah. [01:22] wow [01:22] yeah, that was a spectacular timeout [01:22] Which query is borked? [01:22] it's not just one [01:22] Ah, right. [01:23] 9 if I'm reading this correctly [01:23] which points to maybe something else awry [01:24] I'm going to poke our DBA [01:24] he's not awake yet but I'll leave him a message [01:25] stub's in Thailand, isn't it? [01:25] Er, isn't *he* [01:26] yes [01:26] 7:30am [01:27] ok, got him [01:27] Excellent. [01:27] he'll be here in an hour or two to take a look [01:27] Thanks. === barry is now known as barry-away [08:40] is some one looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/183685 ? [08:40] Launchpad bug 183685 in compiz-fusion-plugins-main "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Fix released] [08:40] users are going crazy in there! [08:40] lots of unsubcribe requests! [08:46] Some of the users who complain that they have unsubscribed are clearly still directly subscribed. [08:47] BUGabundo: it's a weekend... [08:47] Hmm. [08:47] I guess it's particularly unobvious how to unsubscribe from that bug, because there are lots of dupes. [08:48] oh, classy. an autoresponder. [08:48] It has stopped now, fortunately. [08:49] I suspect that somebody should reorder those portlets. [08:50] * Hobbsee ponders subscribing the launchpad team so something gets done about the general issue [08:50] ehehehehe [08:50] don't do that Hobbsee [08:51] it would be crazy [08:51] they've had bugs abotu this before, and haven't done anything about it. [08:51] why? [08:51] i'd just wonder if it would set off the autoresponder again [08:51] although, i'd wonder why it just doesn't run a spam filter or something [08:53] yeah spam filter on LP would be great [08:53] or at least rules for auto-reply headers [08:54] Or maybe people who write autoresponders should not be so stupid. [08:54] There's little point autoresponding to the same address a dozen times. [08:54] yes, that too [08:55] BUGabundo: canonical has been traditionally less inclined to run antispam filters than I would expect - there's often a lot of spam (although they fixed some of it) on the mailing lists in the moderation queues, and a lot of spam from the @ubuntu.com addresses. [08:56] I think that adding a spam filter would cause a larger problem than it solves. [08:56] Spam on Launchpad isn't a huge problem (yet). [08:56] Hobbsee: since all mailinglist seem to white-list all @ubuntu.com and @canonical I guess it is just waiting for trouble [08:57] BUGabundo: On the lists I moderate there's an awful lot of spam, but I rarely see anything get through on a domain whitelist. [08:57] (these are not lists.u.c lists, however) [08:57] BUGabundo: sorry, *to* the @ubuntu.com addresses [08:57] and not all of them - just most of the lists [08:57] yes [08:58] most list... I know [08:58] it was easyer to write [08:58] lol [08:58] wgrant: that's true. I keep forgetting how shocking launchpad is at actually going through their moderation queue for launchpad users. I'd imagine moderated comments for the bugtracker to be much worse. [09:03] Hobbsee: Regarding your complaint about the lack of spam filtering on our @ubuntu.com addresses, I don't want somebody in the middle of my mail path tampering with my mail, really. [09:04] wgrant: that's true. But I'd still think there's a limit on that. [09:04] wgrant: ie, certainly spam. maybe a spam score of >10 or something. [09:05] Spam score is very, very subjective. [09:06] that's true [09:06] but i thought there was still a level of stuff to be known to be "certainly spam" [09:06] although, i guess if you were actively attempting to buy viagra, or something, that wouldn't be spam. [09:06] I can train my spam filter to give inverse results if I want to. [09:15] Is there any way to copy a package from one ppa to another ? [09:16] For example, I upload to my personal ppa for testing, then I upload to the project ppa to publish, any way to avoid waiting for the second build ? [09:17] det: Hit "Copy packages" on the source PPA. [09:17] You can then copy into any PPA that you can write to. [09:17] Just watch out for dependencies. [09:17] Ahh, cool, thanks [09:21] I wonder why it always takes so long to show up in the pool, like 10 minutes after it is successfully built [09:22] det: Packages are published every 20 minutes, as it's not an incredibly cheap operation. [09:22] det: So you'll see new things show up at :00, :20, :40 [09:22] Ok, good to know, thanks. [09:22] Indeed, showed up at :20 === nebi is now known as nebi|away [11:24] <\sh> hmmm... [11:25] <\sh> launchpad-api: it's now possible to search inside a project/project-group/distro/milestone or so for bugtasks assigned/commented/subscribed to person objects...but how does someone search for bugtasks from a person perspective? seems like "has_bugs" is not related to a person object, right? [12:03] wgrant: you know, you are my hero. You answer all PPA questions! Thanks, dude. [12:04] cprov: I don't entirely like seeing questions go unanswered, which they inevitably do otherwise... [12:05] * Hobbsee gives wgrant the crown of being the Resident Volunteer Question Answerer, and covers him in confetti [12:06] * wgrant drowns in it. 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