[00:13] I am not able to slideshow ppt files with latest RC of openoffice, anyone knows why this can be? Using RC3 and Ubuntu 8.04 [00:13] and this is 8.10 channel, sorry [00:13] :) === dholbert_ is now known as dholbert [00:21] is the beta of II really buggy? [00:22] mn: not for me :) [00:23] askand: why not for you? [00:23] I'm just about to reboot into it... Though i'm using Kubuntu [00:23] mn: I don't know why not, guess Im lucky with hardware :) [00:24] :) [00:24] cool [00:31] askand: please do not post your same question to multiple channels at the same time. and 8.04 questions certainly do not belong here. [00:32] mneptok: will this channel be dedicated to 9.04 after 8.10 is released? [00:32] mneptok: I posted her, by mistake first and realized it was wrong (therefore I said "and this is 8.10 channel, sorry") and asked my question in the correct channel [00:34] is it too late to recomend updating a package (a small package with no dependants) [00:35] mn: it will be closed for a time, and then yes, reopened with a focus on Jaunty [00:35] rioting_pacifist: what? [00:35] oh [00:35] mk [00:36] Rioting_pacifist: feature freeze was weeks ago. :) [00:36] mneptok: When will development on jaunty commence? [00:36] mozplugger 1.11.0 was released a couple of months ago just nobody noticed, it fixes a fairly significant bug for 64bit versions, not really adding features [00:38] does anyone here know an easy way to regain the default C:\ in WINE? it would seem as though mine has been deleted [00:38] mn: pretty much as soon as Intrepid is released [00:40] even though its a bugfix there is no way to get the version into intrepid, it has 1 bug open on its tracker that was around before 1.11.0 all the other bugs have been fixed with 1.11.0 its also fairly small and nothing depends on it so it cant screw up dependancies [00:41] Rioting_pacifist: "feature freeze" means exactly what it says [00:42] Rioting_pacifist: lots of people have their pet packages that they want an exception for. take a number. ;) [00:42] If the bugfix could be isolated a patch to the existing package could be made which would satisfy feature freeze requirements [00:42] mneptok: well feature freeze can mean two things :) [00:43] what i mean is, is a bugfix release considerd a feature? [00:43] Rioting_pacifist: well to me it doesn't but to ubuntu it might [00:44] In my experience even bugfix releases needed a freeze exception [00:44] version bumped -> needs exception, generally [00:45] is this channel for kubuntu intrepid as well? I'm having two very strange issues since about two weeks on a daily updated intrepid [00:45] JontheEchidna: well I like usinga two step method one is feature freeze the other is bug fix freeze [00:46] Does the beta show the encrypted "drive" on the desktop? [00:46] 1) every day at exactly midnight my KDE freezes ... I can still use the mouse, but it doesn't accept any other keyboard inputs than ctrl-alt-backspace or ctrl-alt-f* [00:46] last line in .xsession-errors is "QObject::startTimer: QTimer cannot have a negative interval" [00:47] 2) kwin often "forgets" to redraw the new top window when changing applications, moving the application window around a bit or changing again fixes it [00:48] berniv6: the fix for the kwin redrawing should be out in an hour or so. I assume you have desktop effects on? [00:49] JontheEchidna: yes, k thanks [00:49] this is the less annoying of my two issues though :-) [00:49] berniv6: the fix should also include the cube effect ;-) [00:50] your first issue is interesting though [00:50] well I'm not using it too much at all, basically just the new task switching thing [00:50] I wonder if it would be possible to isolate which application is causing the freeze? [00:51] the only application I have running all the time are Firefox, Thunderbird, Pidgin and konsole [00:51] the first three are GTK+ based and should not cause a Q* error (if this is related) [00:52] the rest is a fairly basic Intrepid kde with just kmix and klipper in the system try [00:52] tray === Necrosan is now known as D-Bo [00:56] maybe it could be something like the screensaver? [00:57] hm ... I can disable it, but it's just the standard "black screen" one ... [00:58] I can't get firefox to compile so I can use the QT port ..... [00:58] and it really freezes exactly at midnight in the middle of me typing a sentence into konsole+irssi, so it's not related to inactivity [00:58] yeah, it's probably not the screensaver's fault [00:59] the thing about problems like that are, it's hard to find out why they're causes, lol [00:59] unfortunately I can't really tell when it started, I suspected my (pretty old) keyboard first and didn't even catch it was always at the same time [00:59] but it should be about 2-3 weeks [01:00] I'll try to verify in the next few days without any applications running and with better timestamps on the .xsession-errors, just wanted to know whether someone already heard of that [01:00] kitche: you might try http://jtechinda.blogspot.com/2008/08/firefox-qt-packages-hit-kubuntu.html [01:02] is there an easy way to diff code, im trying to see if 1.11 contains anything other than bugfixes, but the comments have changed allot, all the lines of code look the same though but the comments make the diff contain just about everything [01:04] maybe you could run a diffstat and see which files the most changes were in [01:04] JontheEchidna: that would work if I actually ran a ubuntu really :) but that's a bit off-topic O actually meant to type that in a different channel [01:04] ah, heh [01:04] :P [01:10] JontheEchidna: erm i think im using diffstat wrong it says 0 files have changed when i do "diffstat mozplugger-1.10.2/ mozplugger-1.11.0/" sorry im new to this so no idea what im doing === TheInfinity is now known as Jehova [01:11] * DanaG likes qgtkstyle. [01:11] Makes QT4 apps fit into Gnome. [01:12] ahh gtk finally got the oposite of qtgtk-engine :D [01:15] can I cancel and restart the distribution upgrade dialog? [01:15] there are 2 hours remaining for downloading all the packages... [01:17] If it's downloading packages, then nothing has been done yet. It should be safe to cancel. === bascule is now known as Bascule [01:22] Yay, new kernel with fixed e1000e is out in repos. [01:22] It won't show in update-manager yet, because the parent linux-generic metapackage hasn't yet been updated. === tta is now known as tta_ === tta_ is now known as tta [01:30] did anyone had troubles to install ubuntu desktop for intel? I'm getting an error on 67% of the install... [01:31] another thing: am I able to download ubuntu with its LiveCD? My livecd is working but installation fail, so I'm downloading ubuntu again with livecd. Is it possible? where does the file goes? [01:32] ianliu_88: are you asking if you can upgrade with the livecd? [01:32] no no, I'm running ubuntu with livecd [01:32] and I want to donwload ubuntu again [01:32] ianliu_88: ah, so you need to mount a drive to get enough space? [01:33] yep [01:33] you should be able to just go to places, right? [01:33] oh [01:33] thats it [01:33] thanks [01:33] lol, I feel stupid [01:33] =D [01:33] np :P [01:35] Can I use Wubi with Intrepid yet? [01:36] The Wubi site made it look like I can just put an iso in the same directory; does that still work? [01:36] danbh_intrepid: well, I can't figure out how to get write privilleges [01:38] hmm, did it, thanks [01:51] Question-- I was thinking about running Intrepid on another machine here at the house until I read this... Thoughts and views -- I have another IBM NETVISTA 6578-RBU with Intel Pro LAN. http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?s=d119b46419fc21dc5926d00ba3680fff&showtopic=676948&st=0&#entry589909220 [01:52] This time the question pertains to Intrepid and not 8.04... [01:53] redvamp128: Read the 'known issues' here: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/beta [01:53] redvamp128: The module that causes that problem has been disabled and there is a fix once you update from within intrepid., [01:53] Would intrepid run on that machine if I usd anoter nic without issues. (I have another Knee 100) [01:53] hello, I have a hauppauge 1950 tv tuner that is said to be supported in 2.6.27 yet i can't find a driver for it, and it doesn't show up when i scan hardware [01:54] redvamp128: It would run fine even if you had an e1000 nic. [01:54] Other NICs should be fine. [01:54] 900mhz 256mb- onboard video 1mb intel 810 [01:54] It just wouldnt be able to use it. [01:54] 20 gig hard drive and 52x CDROM. [01:54] Plus, the new kernel with the fixed module is out -- but the linux-image metapackage hasn't yet been updated to use it. [01:56] Oh and to note I did get the sound working (Audigy LS) but only front channels and have to use alsa mixer for volume control. [01:56] Found the answer actually in a Gentoo forum. [01:57] So those specs with a Knee 100 (Kingston) network card should run intrepid Ok with eyecandy turned off? [01:59] Any links to screenshots of Intrepid? [02:00] wtf... my pulseaudio channel isn't working! [02:00] It just randomly quits. [02:03] any idea how to fix seahorse in intrepid? [02:06] when i enter a '-' sign into the quick search bar of synaptic, it crashes [02:06] and is mildly unwilling to restart [02:11] don't seem to be having issues with letters, but every time i put in a - i get the darkened screen of death [02:16] hey guys...some stuff in intrepid beta is running very slow/crashing for me! help! [02:17] - sudo gedit anything in /etc will take 5 minutes to fully load gedit and allow me to use it for example [02:17] !gksu [02:17] If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why) [02:18] - also file manager nautilus is sluggish...and when i plug in a USB drive it hangs [02:18] DanaG: gksu doesnt make much difference [02:20] can anyone help me weed out these speed problems? i am flabbergasted at what might be causing them [02:21] it's like intrepid is twice as slow if not slower than hardy for me [02:23] DanaG: gksudo has not yet opened scrollkeeper.conf with gksudo since (09:21:45 PM) DanaG: !gksu [02:23] *gedit [02:23] Odd. [02:23] spoke too soon...now it has [02:23] When I tried the nouveau driver, I got everything being freakishly slow; I don't remember what caused it, though. [02:24] DanaG: i did mess around with themes and trying to get some eye-candy going, i must admit...any suggestions on how i can reset anything that mightve changed back to the original setup? [02:25] DanaG: and whats nouveau driver? [02:25] It's an alternate nvidia open-source driver; you'd know if you were using it, because it's not in the normal repos. [02:26] i see...well i am running metacity -- my graphics card is SiS.. [02:26] Aah. [02:26] i think i have default driver going right now [02:26] I don't know what else to try. [02:27] i see [02:27] Is it possible you've run out of disk space on some partition? If that happens, things break. [02:27] On the root, that'd be. [02:28] DanaG: nope...i got only 1 partition, with 28gb of space [02:28] Aah. [02:28] hmm, anything interesting in .xsession-errors once you try to launch things? [02:28] try in console: tail -f .xsession-errors & [02:28] (including the ampersand.) [02:29] Then go to launch whatever you want to test. [02:29] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gksu/+bug/23917 [02:29] hmm. [02:29] Launchpad bug 23917 in gksu "gksudo GnomeUI Warning" [Low,Confirmed] [02:37] is it true that intrepid wont have a brand new theme? [02:38] DanaG: so far, I have: http://pastebin.com/m3bd36f4c [02:38] I need some help with my graphics [02:40] details? [02:41] adrian_2002ca: Hmm, any chance you have a mismatch between hostname in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname? [02:41] I upgraded from 8.04 and was forced into low-res [02:41] open terminal [02:41] do you have an nvidia card? [02:41] yep [02:41] what kind? [02:41] is this awfull theme the new default one? [02:41] 8600 GT XXX running dual monitors [02:42] type > sudo apt-get install nvidia-177-kernel-source nvidia-177-modaliases [02:42] hello? [02:43] no time for idiots wsjunior >_> [02:43] any idea how to fix seahorse in intrepid? [02:43] DanaG: and one more error as it opened the file http://pastebin.com/m7787ba7...i will check hosts [02:43] Guest24697: once that's done ... ctrl alt bkspace and relogin should be good [02:43] That link got mangled. [02:44] DanaG: http://pastebin.com/m7787ba7 [02:44] how can i tell X to stop using compiz? [02:45] metacity --replace ? [02:45] I'll give that a try and will be back in a bit, Should have used the laptop to log in in the first place. [02:45] k [02:46] kinto_0: idiot just for ask? [02:46] honestly ... who the heck comes into a help chat section to bitch about the default screen look ??? [02:46] and then "hello?" demanding an answer for a dumb ? [02:47] DanaG: http://pastebin.com/m3fdf5ead ~ another error closing the file.....hosts and hostname seem to match... [02:47] kinto, getting "E: Couldn't find package nvidia-17-modaliases" [02:47] its a simple question and if you are not forced to answer, so if you dont have something usefull to say just keep your fingers quiet. [02:47] Guest24697: it's 177 [02:47] not 17 [02:47] duh, thanks [02:47] np [02:48] Hmm, I'm not sure what would be doing that. [02:48] Is anyone else having a problem where firefox crashes after closing a tab with a flash video in it? [02:48] DanaG: Is that to me? [02:49] * kinto_0 thinks it would be nice if the live cd told the installer that you wanted restricted drivers to begin w/ o_O getting low res settings after it looks just fine on startup is rather dumb : / [02:50] Yeah. [02:50] I can't think of how to fix that slowness. [02:50] DanaG: thanks eh! [02:50] DanaG: the universe will right itself eventually [02:50] DanaG: :D [02:50] Videos also just pause after 2 seconds [02:51] it doesn't freeze or anything [02:51] and I can move around in the clip, and it will start playing again [02:51] :/ [02:51] xD [02:51] sounds like fun [02:52] Oh yeah, it's awesome :) [02:52] is it a flash issue ? 64 bit version? [02:52] 32 bit ubuntu [02:52] what's a "production machine" [02:52] speaking of videos, my video player's best quality with an mpg file is by using gl and then it will go slowwwww [02:52] ahh ... i used to get flash to do weird things when using hardy 64 [02:52] I've been using intrepid since like alpha 4, and it just started about 2 weeks ago [02:53] * kinto_0 loves those updates that break everything :) [02:53] didn't use to be this bad in hardy [02:54] hehe, I'm not even sure what package I should be looking at is the problem [02:54] Is it firefox, is it flashplugin-nonfree, I heard someone else suggest that it's pulseaudio [02:54] does it play fine w/ vlc? [02:54] Flash files? yeah if I download them they play fine :( [02:55] ; exit-idle-time = 20 ---- wait, it's told to exit when idle? [02:55] Who in their right mind would think that's a good idea? [02:55] * kinto_0 leaves for beer run :D [02:55] It means the next time something goes to use audio............. BAM, it hangs. [02:56] kino, I'm back. Restarted X with no problems, but still only have the one monitor [02:57] do i need to install emerald for compiz to work? I seem to get an error when i enable desktop effects. [03:01] KINO!!! [03:06] Guest30200: i've never dual screened [03:06] lifehacker talked about it today [03:06] showed some pics of doing it [03:06] google ubuntu in google news and it should pop up w/ the link [03:07] Ok, havn't checked my rss today, should be there [03:16] hey there [03:16] my sound isnt working after I return from a suspend on my inspiron 1525 [03:17] I have to log out and log back in again [03:18] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22/+bug/148043 [03:18] Launchpad bug 148043 in dell "[xps 1330] sound doesn't work after suspend" [High,Fix released] [03:18] I have found this bug [03:18] I will try out the work around but it would be nice not to have to [03:24] I tried the Kubuntu 8.10 beta live today. Started loading, then the screen went an odd shade of white and black, turned off entirely, and did nothign else... Had to hold the power button to turn off the computer. [03:24] My installed Hardy is still working great, wonder why Intrepid craps out before I can even see a desktop? The alphas didnt do this... [03:24] anyone else seen this? [03:27] is ubuntu-8.10-beta-desktop-i386.iso a liveCD or only for installations? [03:27] Frijolie: I think thats the live cd [03:28] I can't find where it mentions that info [03:28] Frijolie: it is both [03:28] how do you tell what intel wifi driver you're using--even if it is disabled in the beta [03:29] Actually, what's disabled is e1000e, the WIRED network driver. [03:30] hey, check out slashdot [03:31] http://blogs.computerworld.com/when_linux_does_well_the_e1000e_ethernet_bug_fixed [03:31] Ah, it's the LAN driver. Well I meant that one then. If I just run the LiveCD then I won't be harmed right? [03:32] reading that blog now [03:33] Man I love torrents! I'm downloading the Beta @ ~750Kib/s [03:33] with regular HTTP it was only ~300Kib/s [03:35] are there known issues with the beta and intel graphics? i have been able to test the alphas, but cannot get a desktop on the beta [03:36] So this "bug" will be fixed on the 5th according to that link danbh_intrepid [03:36] that's reassuring! [03:41] This is more of an annoyance than a bug, but when I upgraded from hardy to intrepid, the NetworkManager forgot my WEP keys. I had to re-enter them. [03:42] WEP? [03:42] why even bother? ;) [03:43] cause Im a glutton for punishment, apparently. [03:44] seriously though. WEP is not secure. there's no point in using it. [03:44] wep is supposed to be crackable within like 10min [03:44] Yeah yeah, I know. [03:45] bytor4232: save the (weak) encryption overhead and filter clients by MAC address. or use WPA. [03:46] mneptok: You know, its just my house. I really don't feel like going to great lengths to "secure" my home network. For one thing, I live on half an acre with 10 acres behind me. [03:47] bytor4232: OK, so then you don;t need WEP *or* MAC filtering ;) [03:47] Besides, I don't broadcast the ESSID, so its not like someone driving by is even going to see the wireless access point. [03:48] Honestly, no, I don't need anything. [03:48] i just called mine Fort Wayne Police Department... no one's ever attempted to connect :) [03:48] ha [03:49] Here's a random idea: bogus access point, that serves up all dns requests to a page that says, "HA HA, YOU LOSE." [03:49] Heh, well, I wasn't going to say anything, but there is that too. [03:49] ... and then is disconnected from the real internet. [03:49] i think FBI agents are hot, so my AP's ESSID is "alqueda-us" [03:49] heh [03:49] I have a Linksys G router and a B router. The B router is just plugged in, it doesn't do anything but broadcast "linksys" [03:50] bytor4232: any Intel 3945 wireless chipsets in your machines? [03:50] No [03:50] k [03:50] The only wireless is my lappy, and it only uses it once in a while. [03:50] * DanaG has a 3945. [03:50] ... and dislikes iwl3945. [03:51] I don't use my laptop at home that much. [03:53] Anyhoo, back on point, just reporting an annoyance thats all. Just would think that NetworkManager could keep the keys from Hardy to Intrepid. [03:53] Seems wierd that I had to enter it again just because I upgraded. [03:53] nm is still a work in progress I think [03:54] That makes sense. [03:55] bytor4232: but, it might still make sense to file a bug [03:55] Hm. I guess its kindof a bug. [03:58] hi [04:22] Need some assistance with livecd [04:25] on a non ubuntu not ... where does irssi save files from dcc ?? [04:26] I just did a clean install of 8.10... why do most applications still use KDE 3.5 ? [04:27] anybody having trouble running Intrepid beta livecd? [04:27] Hello, does anyone know why I get "No networkdriver found" while trying to install "Ubuntu 8.10 Beta" onto my EeePC 901? Isn't the atl1e-driver included? [04:28] john__: do you have a problem? [04:28] * Allah used the alternate cd. [04:29] Yes, livecd does not boot to and gui [04:29] will this beta eventually update to the 8.10 as if it wasn't a beta? [04:29] (using apt-get upgrade) [04:30] the alternate cd (8.10 beta) does not boot for me :( [04:31] bilicki: as i recall, when i was using hardy beta ... they had updates pop up w/ the update manager and would upgrade the diff versions automatically [04:31] when I hit "enter" at the prompt "boot:" I get to the menu, and when I hit enter there, the computer make strange click-noises and then reboots [04:31] so i'd assume that 'yes' is the answer to your ? [04:33] The livecd displays the initial language selection and options screen. I select language, then F6 to remove "quiet" parameter. Livecd displays lines of text, the screen clears, flashing cursor, and the machine goes quite. [04:34] I've had this problem since alpha 5. [04:35] when i login, seahorse-agent crashes. any idea? [04:35] are there anyone interested in helping me? [04:35] I do have a working Kubuntu Hardy install right now. Am exploring the look and feel of Intrepid, but it has no look or feel. [04:36] With the flashing cursor (upper left), I assume it's a video driver or subsystem thing. [04:39] Oh well. Try again later [04:52] i removed gdm, installed fluxbox, and i get error- /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/x-window-manager corrupt: invalid update mode. this is from a xubuntu system. fluxbox works fine, menu had to be made but that wasnt hard. this error is reoccurring, any suggestions? [04:55] Hi - when I try to run skype I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/53643/ any tips? (I am a relative- newbie) [04:57] frybye: is your sound configured properly? can you listen to music and play youtube videos? [04:58] i will try youtube... [04:58] have had a big fight with the sound setup on this installation... [05:00] frybye: many things don't work when the sound doesn't work, I had a bunch of programs that wouldn't go when my sound wasn't working [05:01] on trying to start amarok i get a fault report xine no audio driver installed"" - eh what now? [05:01] you tube worked by the way... [05:03] frybye: well, you can try going to System>Preferences>Sound and making sure the right device is selected for output [05:05] seems to be related to xine drivers - eh - hang on pse.. [05:07] I have an entry in there - |backend| Xine - eh is that right...? [05:07] no idea :P [05:08] it is also sent to " use_vo_driver " [05:09] that can be set to Linear - LinearBlend - Greedy - Greedy2Frame etc etc.. do u know what that is all about - what is the "backend?" [05:41] anybody around? [05:43] BrianFreytag: yep === BrianFreytag_ is now known as BrianFreytag [05:43] frybye: nope, dunno [05:44] so.. has anyone heard anything recently about Intrepid and ATI Catalyst driver compatibility? [05:44] I heard a rumor that the 8.10 version of the catalyst were going to work, but I don't know if that's true [05:56] hi [05:56] I tried to download beta xubuntu with jigdo-lite [05:56] I got this message(and xubuntu-8.10-beta-alternate-amd64.iso.tmp): http://paste.ubuntu.com/53659/ [05:57] What should I do to get proper *.iso and move on? [06:03] nobody is answering questions right now [06:04] anybody had problems with vlc vers. 9.3 in interepid beta?? [06:05] at least playing iptv seems a mess... [06:09] Ya, this channel has been unusually slow the last few hours, and I'm not the best for questions. [06:09] nikolam: I'd offer to let you download the iso from my website, but I have the i386 version [06:10] outbri: your right about the channel slow - almost dead would be more accurate a description.. ;=) [06:10] outbri, Thank you but I am more then capable to download ISO with http from bublic mirrors [06:11] Problem arised when jigdo download did not finish [06:11] nikolam: they are all failing? [06:11] nikolam: tried a torrent?? [06:11] Right now, yeah, It is odd, I've been hanging around for a month or so and there are usually 4-5 people answering questions. [06:11] depends a bit on the time of day i guess... [06:11] east coast usa is now night... [06:11] I could try torrent to fix download, yes, but that is not the point, I want to be able to use jigdo in the future, to just fetch cahnges [06:12] west coast is not so late though.. would expect a few more here... [06:12] Maybe I should just finish it with torrent for today [06:12] dont know that one... jigdo? [06:13] hmm .. i am a star - not only screwed my kubuntu but now have messed up the vista box i use for work stuff.. hmmm.. [06:13] frybye, jigdo, it is the way to download new iso by just downloaing changes within an *.iso file not the whole file over and over [06:13] i c [06:15] the irc channels seem generally a bit lame at the moment... everybody is watching cnn etc or...? [06:15] ok had to happen to me of course :D oh well good learning experience getting this fixed. so I was doing an upgrade from Hardy to Ibex Beta, and stupid lose power cable so yep it went off, as it was installing packages. so I tried to finnish stuff using hardy recovery mode. ,but it woudn't even download the packages that it wanted. ,but I am on a Gutsy Live CD right now, and it's been a while since I used a Live CD to fix problems, bu [06:16] loose power cable = deadly... [06:16] why? [06:16] more like annoying, because it can re boot the computer when I don't want it to [06:17] not so much literally "deadly" but will cause u awefull problems with a pc... [06:17] I think it's the power cable anyway [06:17] u need to fix that cable pal... or a new power supply unit or whatever the prob. is... [06:18] maybe it's the power unit that's a point [06:18] well this PC is around 2 years old [06:18] right.. they are not even so expensive these days... some quieter than others.. [06:18] ,but I am not here to talk about a power cable [06:18] silentpcreview.com... reviews PSUs for more than just noise level. [06:19] and yes before I was running recovery stuff with the old Hardy kernel and I thought, well that's not going to really work well, if it's got Ibex stuff on there now [06:19] here in the EU the normal guarantee is 2 years - everything seems to fall over and die 1 - 2 weeks overf that limit... [06:19] EU well that's me to [06:19] England what about you? [06:19] You can always chroot. [06:19] SebNaitsabes: but to be honest until you get that hardware prob. fixed - all the rest is a bit pointless... [06:19] i am a Cornishman living in Berlin... [06:19] no it happens very rearely [06:20] that it goes off [06:20] like that [06:20] I am trying Pidgin out for IRC on this Gutsy Live CD, I am so sticking with Konversation in proper Ubuntu install :) [06:20] yeah - but if your harddisk is just in the process of a read/write at the moment it goes off - you can have a wrecked installation... [06:20] yay, DanaG showed up with some more knowledge. [06:21] yeah the errors when booting with hardy kerenl was saying about it being a read only partition [06:21] I think my partitions are ok [06:21] seem to be [06:21] one the side.. if anyone has vlc- iptv infos - pse mention.... [06:21] when accessing from Live CD [06:21] If it's read-only... run fsck on it. [06:21] But unmount it first. [06:22] well when it booted from Grub with old hardy kernel it just came up with errors. and I didn't think it would work. I mean Ibex needs the Ibex kernel right or? [06:22] figures... [06:22] then I finnished off dist-upgrade in recovery mode, but some stuff still did not want to be installed from that, but I can edit my sources.list and run commands on this Live CD anyway so [06:23] Oh yeah, one thing that helps: bind mount /proc and /dev to the chroot. [06:23] boot and mount -o bind /dev/ /media/whatever/dev [06:23] then same for /proc [06:23] Then chroot. [06:24] it's been a while since I did stuff like this, but first of course the terminal needs to know it's working on the Ibex partition not the Live CD [06:25] actsaully the stuff that woudn't get installed in recovery mode, it was like it coudn't get a connection or maybe just access to that repo. well I just changed all my hardy ones in sources.list to intrepid [06:25] HI I can`t download latest 8.10 Beta Xubuntu amd64 *.iso because there are 6 changed files and jigdo-lite is complaining it cannot downloadthem! [06:26] DanaG: terminal on this Live CD by default will be for the Live CD, so do I just CD into my Ibex partition and then start running commands or? [06:43] anybody here knows how to use ufw? [06:45] shirish, Install gufw, GUI for ufw and adjust its properties [06:46] I personally still prefer Firestarter [06:46] nikolam: hi, thanx don't need that, just need to know if ufw understands xmpp protocol yet or not [06:46] It has an option to forward internet connection to my other machibes, etc.. [06:48] I just downloaded the Interpid i386 alternate ISO and tried to install. At near the end where it is installing the base system, it gives me an ncurse dialog box saying to install another media. I couldn't open my CD drive and doesn't seem I need another CD anyway (never have for this). Anyone seen this? [06:48] I ran the media check before installing (not to mention my ISO burning program has a verify option I used). [06:50] hansin, What happens next, does it continue to install? [06:52] No, in the ncurses dialog box my two opens were [back] and [continue] I think. It pretty mcuh didn't do anything if I tried to pick either. It gave me a number of the media wanted (I shoudl have write it down exactly what it said), but I think it was date coded. It appeared it wanted another CD, but I have never seen that for any previous alternate install CDs. [06:52] s/my two options [06:55] i saw that intel has fixed the problem with e1000e driver? is the fixed kernel been released for upgrade yet? [06:55] How can I install my nVidia driver in intrepid? The Hardware Drivers doesn't offer to install my driver so I installed nvidia-glx-173 (there seems to be 4 drivers) and it didn't seem to work. I can't enable compiz and glxgears won't run. [06:55] I have a GeForce 7600 GT [06:58] Asa_A: Just a guess at something worth trying, but I have GeForce 6200 based card and I can't remember off the top of my head which driver works, but only one of them does. Maybe keep trying to install the various nvidia drivers and see what one works. What I remember is that if you install a new one, apt-get/aptitude removes the current version so you don't have multple of the nvidia variations installed at one time. [06:59] thanks i'll try that. if it doesn't work i'll be back to ask again later :) [07:00] Asa_A: Okay. If you install one that doesn't work, I think it drops back to the nv driver, or maybe the generic vesa driver. [07:02] Dang, Asa_A left. It looks like [07:03] ... nvidia-glx may be a virual package that will link to the right driver!!! [07:04] is it possible to build Empathy 2.24 from source in Hardy Heron? [07:06] Geoffrey2: why do you ask here, hardy is ubuntu+-0 [07:06]