mrooneybdmurray: could a tag or something be useful for this sort of bug, once we know when it will be fixed00:09
mrooneylike willfix-jaunty or something00:09
hggdhI am not sure a tag would help here00:15
bdmurrayI think the resolved upstream search would find them00:25
mrooneyoh, okay!00:30
mrooneyhm, so how do you debug or file an ambiguous issue like "rhythmbox skips when playing music"01:06
mrooneyit can't seem to play any songs without a few skips in Intrepid for me01:06
mrooneywgrant: do you mean that is the package to file it under?01:07
mrooneyor that I can somehow use pulseaudio to figure out what causes the skip01:07
wgrantmrooney: That's the package, more than likely.01:08
mrooneyyes, let me try in totem and see what happens01:09
wgrantmrooney: If it still happens in totem, open up gstreamer-properties and change it to use ALSA rather than PulseAudio, and see if it still occurs.01:09
mrooneyhaha totem crashes if I drag an mp3 to it01:10
mrooney"The program 'totem' received an X Window System error."01:10
mrooneyhm "gdb --args totem --sync" doesn't seem to help on that one01:13
mrooneywgrant: hmm, still some skips on alsa with rb01:21
wgrantmrooney: Damn. Do other apps like mplayer skip?01:21
mrooneyperhaps that is good, the last thing Ubuntu needs is another pulseaudio issue01:21
mrooneylet me install it...01:21
mrooneywell mplayer is friendlier on CPU at least, 7% compared to 12% with rb+pulse and 22% with rb+alsa01:26
mrooney...but it still skips01:26
mrooneyI wonder what it could be...01:27
mrooneyplayer and sound server agnostic01:29
mrooneywgrant: I've been watching `top` the whole time too, I don't see anything pop up during a skip01:31
wgrantmrooney: Clearly something ALSAish... you might want to poke TheMuso about it.01:31
mrooneythough I've noticed on Intrepid Xorg constantly seems to use 12-20%01:31
mrooneycould it be related to that, I wonder?01:32
mrooneyand also where might I find this TheMuso01:33
wgrantmrooney: #ubuntu-devel is good.01:34
wgrantmrooney: He's in .au.01:34
mrooneywgrant: okay when music ISN'T playing, Xorg drops back down to 1-2%, though anything can drive it back to that higher level including fast typing01:34
mrooneythanks, I'll try that01:35
mrooneyI wonder if it could be that I am not using fglrx here01:35
wgrantI doubt it - nobody on Intrepid can use fglrx.01:36
mrooneybut I mean on an older computer, maybe the FOSS driver is slower enough compared to fglrx to make music skip01:38
mrooneyalthough it doesn't seem at all related to using compiz effects or other such things01:38
csilkI'm packageing an application. Most of the app is wirtten by mrX one small section is written by mrY, do i put mrX and mrY in the copyright file or not?01:52
wgrantcsilk: #ubuntu-motu, and yes.01:52
csilkwgrant,  motu is a little dead, and thanks01:53
nhandler_csilk: If mrY only wrote one file, you should probably mention that in the copyright file.02:02
csilknhandler_, sorry to keep bugging you with questions... if one of the copyright holders has no listed email address does that matter?02:05
nhandler_csilk: If they have no email address listed in any of the files, and it is not on the upstream website, then there is nothing you can do. Just list their name with no email address.02:06
csilkMaybe I'm being to anal about this, sorry02:07
csilkI'll follow my common sense and revu can throw it back if there is an issue02:07
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Hobbseeoh, wtf?07:36
* Hobbsee shakes her head at people.07:36
nixternalyou need to do more than shake!07:39
Hobbseenixternal: just more of the guy who doesn't understand that #ubuntu, and only #ubuntu, not #ubuntu-quality, #ubuntu-bugs, OR #ubuntu-meeting, is the support channel.07:48
HewHey guys. I'm looking at the traceback of bug 272661 and bug 273231 and they look very similar. Is it appropriate to mark as a dupe?08:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 272661 in jockey "jockey-gtk crashed with AttributeError in handler_info()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27266108:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 273231 in jockey "jockey-gtk crashed with AttributeError in handler_info()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27323108:11
elmargolI think i have a release critial bug. Using the closed source nvidia driver. Who does kernel/nvidia bugs?10:44
ivoksi don't think bugs in closed source program can be critical10:45
ivoksit's not like we can do anything about bug in closed source program10:46
elmargolWell it crashes the x server. + the terminals and you have to reboot10:46
ivoksi think that's a known bug, since i've already heard people talking about that10:46
elmargolivoks: It has to be kernel related. it works on hardy using the same driver10:46
ivoksdid you check launchpad?10:46
elmargolivoks: I'm still reading all the bug reports... not sure if it is allrady reportet10:47
ivoksif not, report it10:47
elmargolwell there is not much to report. no messages in the logs :/10:47
ivokslaunchpad has this nice feature - it will do it's best to find a bug with same symptoms and offer it to you as a duplicate10:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 276222 in compiz "Guest session and any other session can't be started if compiz is enabled" [Undecided,New]11:42
Le-Chuck_ITAI ask you a quick favour: if you have intrepid can you test if guest session works if compiz is enabled and in case it doesn't confirm the bug above?11:43
Le-Chuck_ITAit's a pity a new functionality would not work. I have a i945 video card so if you have that card of course you are particularly invited :)11:43
wgrantLe-Chuck_ITA: Ahaha, I was wondering why it wasn't working any more.11:45
wgrantLe-Chuck_ITA: I can confirm that - i915 here.11:45
Le-Chuck_ITAwgrant do you own a toshiba? I always find you in the same bug as mine11:46
wgrantLe-Chuck_ITA: No, Dell.11:46
Le-Chuck_ITAah ok so my bugs are more common than I expected11:46
Le-Chuck_ITAcould you please confirm on the report? and let's hope someone will notice that11:46
wgrantDone a while ago.11:46
ivoksanyone expirienced sleep-loop?12:01
ivokssometimes when i put my intrepid into sleep, after waking up it goes to sleep again12:02
ivoksi'll file a bug 'sleep works too good in intrepid' :)12:02
Hobbseeactually, i think htat has been mentioned before.12:04
Hobbseeivoks: if you look (not sure what under), you'll probably find the bug12:04
wgrantivoks: How are you putting it to sleep?12:06
ivokswgrant: Fn+F312:23
ivoksthis is toshiba... btw... there's no way to enable bluetooth in intrepid on this machine :( it worked in hardy12:23
ivoksthis is cause toshiba-acpi was replaced with this new driver12:23
charlie-tcaCould I have the importance in bug 196488 set to wishlist?14:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 196488 in gnumeric "Unhelpful errors when trying to save to a read-only file" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19648814:31
charlie-tcaIt really is a request to change the wording of the error message14:32
charlie-tcacould I have the importance in bug 232161 set to wishlist? It is for a feature request15:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 232161 in gnumeric "no shortcut for toggling between absolute and relative addressing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23216115:09
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lfaraonechrisccoulson: sure.16:32
lfaraone* charlie-tca16:32
lfaraonechrisccoulson: oops, sorry.16:32
chrisccoulsoni take it you didn't mean to talk to me ;)16:32
charlie-tcadid you mean to talk to me?16:33
lfaraonecharlie-tca: yes.16:33
charlie-tcaSure, what can I do?16:33
lfaraonecharlie-tca: you might want to forward 232161 upstream.16:33
lfaraonecharlie-tca: I marked it as wishlist for you.16:33
chrisccoulsonbug 23216116:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 232161 in gnumeric "no shortcut for toggling between absolute and relative addressing" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23216116:33
charlie-tcaThanks. I'll check that out at bugzilla16:34
chrisccoulsonyeah, that should definately go upstream. brainstorm is not the place for that type of request16:34
charlie-tcaWorks for me. I'll forward it16:35
Chorcawhat up, got a quick q17:39
ChorcaThere's some issues in the installer program.. i'm wondering which package that is..17:40
chrisccoulsonChorca - Are you using the live CD?17:42
Chorcayeah, the normal CD..17:42
chrisccoulsonyou're best off reporting the bug against ubiquity17:42
ChorcaOkay. it's an issue with the text below the partitions in the partitioner.. they get all bunched on top of each other after you select another option.17:43
chrisccoulsonit would be good to attach a screenshot to your bug reprot17:43
chrisccoulson**bug report even17:43
Chorcayeah, i've got some 'o those :D17:44
ChorcaI dunno if anyone else has seen it either.. but also in the first boot, if compiz effects are enabled, starting firefox yields no titlebar.17:44
charlie-tcachrisccoulson, lfaraone : Forwarded Bug 232161 upstream; thanks for helping me17:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 232161 in gnumeric "no shortcut for toggling between absolute and relative addressing" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23216117:45
chrisccoulsonthanks for doing that17:45
Chorcathink that's a compiz issue?17:51
Chorcalol nm, been reported.17:53
mrooneyChorca: bug number?17:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 257947 in firefox-3.0 "After install of 8.10 alpha 4 Firefox opens with tool bar under top panel." [Undecided,Confirmed]18:00
Chorcaupdated it with a screenshot18:00
mrooneyis bug 278190 a dupe of bug 259157?18:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 278190 in linux "Macbook Pro Wireless frequently fails to connect to WEP network" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27819018:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 259157 in network-manager "[MASTER 0.7 regression] atheros/madwifi and orinoco drivers not supported" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25915718:02
mrooneyasac: ping?18:03
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